THE QURAN IS A MESSAGE?
31 March 2013
Perhaps. But as no god ever would deliver a book as full of errors or worse as this one, then from whom is the message in case? There only are 3 possibilities left: The dark forces - and much in the Quran fits a devil better than it firs a good and benevolent god. A mental illness (modern medical science suspects Muhammad had TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - a mental illness which can give the kind of fits and religious illusions Muhammad is said to have had). Or a cold human brain - f.x. Muhammad's.
01 38/8b: "Has the Message been sent - - -". Yes, was it really sent? - and in case from whom? As no god ever was involved in a message that full of errors, contradictions, etc. there remains: Dark forces, a sick brain (TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy?), or a cold, scheming brain - perhaps Muhammad's.
###02 4/82b: “Had it (the Quran*) been from other than Allah, they would surely therein found much discrepancy.” What a proof!!! The ultimate joke and irony! In addition to all the mistakes, internal and external contradictions, etc. (roughly at least unbelievable 3000 (!!!) everything included), there is so much discrepancy in the Quran, that Islam has a special rule how to solve such problems - the so called rule of abrogation: If there is discrepancy between two (or more) places in the Quran, the youngest one normally is the correct one - the omniscient Allah so often (300 times or more according to "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran") had to change his mind or got new information which forced him to change his words, that one needs a special rule how to behave in such cases (this is one of the reasons why it is essential for Islam to know the age of the surahs and verses, or at least which is older than which - to know which is valid and which is abrogated). And there is so much discrepancy between the Quran and modern knowledge that it is clear that either Islam has a lot of good explaining to do, or the Quran is not made by an omniscient god. (Islam has a lot of explanations, but most of those are not about explaining the mistakes, etc., but about explaining them away, and such "explanations" most often are invalid or highly dubious - use your brain and knowledge when you listen or read, and you will see this is true). The quoted sentence really is an indirect, but strong proof from the Quran itself that the Quran is not sent down from an omniscient god - and a reason why Muslims cannot afford to admit there is one single mistake in the book, no matter how unlikely explanations they have to use to “explain” the mistakes away: If there are mistakes, there is something fundamentally wrong with the religion, because then the Quran is not from a god. That is too difficult to face.
(It should be mentioned that some Muslims denies there is a rule of abrogation (an omniscient god would not need to adjust or further specify his own rules - it spoils the picture of perfection and of omniscience), but anyone can read and see for him-/herself: Many points are adjusted, extended or given other limits - larger or smaller - in the Quran. We have never counted, but we have read numbers from ca. 100 to more than 500 abrogations depending on how strictly you judge. Actually it is said by some Islamic scholars that only 9/5 – “the Verse of the Sword” – abrogates 124 older mild verses).
In addition to the internal discrepancies in the Quran, one has all the mentioned mistakes – they are discrepancies compared to the reality. Besides: Even if it had been without the least contradiction, that had meant nothing as a proof - Muhammad had plenty of time to be careful and think his words over as after all this not big book took 23 years (but he was unable to make it perfect). There are more than 300 internal contradictions (see http://www.1000mistakes.com, chapter 2-8-1-0, about this) + all external contradictions (contradiction with reality).
03 53/4: "It (the surahs*) is no less than inspiration sent down to him (Muhammad*) - - -". May be true, but from whom? - not from a god with all those mistakes. Then may be from a sick brain (f.x. TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - like modern medical science suspects)? From dark forces? From a cold brain? - few things are as easy as claimed "inspiration" to manipulate. The word "inspiration" also never is used in such connection in the Bible. On the contrary the Bible stated that Yahweh used direct contact, visions, or dreams (4. Mos. 12/6-8). One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.
##04 69/50a: “But truly (Revelation (of the Quran*)) is a cause of sorrow for the Unbelievers”. True, but for other reasons than the Quran indicates: Because of all the war and blood and terror Islam has represented through the ages - and the answer is NOT that also other religions have caused wars, etc. as that does not make a hate, rape, suppression, robbery and blood religion like Islam one single iota better – and in most other religions it is done in spite of the real religion, not because of. (CSPI informs that it has been calculated that through the times some 270 million non-Muslims have been killed because of Islam. Of these are some 120 millions from Africa (all the many millions of slaves brought out of Africa or died during transport or castration - it seems that most male negro slaves were castrated, and this without any painkiller or medical attention - are not included).). And sorrow because many felt pity for souls going lost in a religion built on a book where something is seriously wrong. (May be their own religion(s) also were wrong, but all the mistaken facts, etc., in a book pretending to be from an omniscient god, proves that in Islam there really is something that is wrong - and it makes one doubt very strongly that it really is a divine revelation (and with a reason, as said all the errors as also said directly prove that it is not from a god).
Actually Islam is the only one of the big religions that directly proves itself wrong – by means of their holy book. Proves that something is seriously wrong with the claimed holy book and thus with the religion.
##05 13/39b: “- - - with Him (Allah*) is the Mother of the Book (the presumed original book of which the Quran - and the books of all older claimed prophets - is said to be a copy*)“. Mere humans like us think it is unlikely in the extreme that an omnipotent and omniscient god has a book awash with mistakes, contradictions, logically invalid claims, etc. as a revered Mother Book in his Heaven. There also are a lot of problems to explain if it was made by the god a long time ago - not to mention if it is an unmade book that has existed forever, like many Muslims insists:
If the book is that old and existed before, why did the god have to send down claimed imperfect books - Torah, OT, NT? And NB: Science and Islam both have proved they are not falsified like Muslims claim (as normal for Islam without documentation).
How to explain that in some verses (8?) it is Muhammad who is speaking?
How to explain that the god sometimes has to change his message – erase it in the Mother Book and write something new? - and did he really get everything right in the book this time? Especially if he is copying the Mother Book he ought to get it right at once?
How could he change the messages, if it was all written a long time ago - or always existed - in a Mother Book he copied? Erasing something there and writing over?
How come that so many verses are answers or comments to things which happened in Mecca and Medina to Muhammad and during the life of Muhammad? - Muhammad f.x. quarreled with his wives, and Allah sent down surahs to explain that Muhammad like always was right - and like always a little bit too late to avert problem, but relevant to his needs just then? (Remember that if man has freedom of choice, full omniscience and thus also full clairvoyance is impossible - admitted even by Islam, except that they say it must be true all the same because Allah says so in the Quran (!!))
How to explain that it (the Quran) could have been written eons ago, if Allah has given the humans a certain amount of free will? - human acts will upset the texts in chaotic ways. (Predestination and human free will are 100% incompatible and 100% impossible to combine - as man always can change his mind once more, making it impossible for the god to know for sure what really will happen, until it happens).
Islam says texts had to be changed a little over time, because times changes - therefore new holy books. But the 300 last years time has changed more than from Adam till 1700 AD. Why are no prophets and no holy book necessary? (Also see 13/38d above). And how was the text in the Mother Book changed to fit new times.
If the “mother book” is eons old, why then is nearly the all talk to Muhammad, a little to a few others, and nothing to the other 124ooo (the number according to Hadiths) prophets? The first prophets - when everything was new – after all needed most information and help.
How to explain that most of the stories in the Quran are based on religious fairy tales? - any god had known they were untrue.
How to explain that all the "borrowed" tales in the Quran, were tales "borrowed" from folklore in and around Arabia? - if the book was from an international god, he should know tales from other parts of the world, too (and actually an omniscient god would not need to "borrow" tales - and definitely not wrong "knowledge" - at all).
If the Quran was from an omniscient god, why is there a lot of wrong "knowledge" - and all in accordance with what one believed was correct science, etc. in Arabia at that time - but not one clear case of the book using correct knowledge which was not known at that time, but known to any god?
How to explain all the mistakes? – any god had known better.
How to explain all the invalid statements? – any god had known better.
How to explain all the invalid “signs” (treated as proofs)?
How to explain the invalid “proofs”? – any god had known better.
How to explain the directly wrong statements, “signs” and “proofs”. ?
How to explain all the contradictions – the claim of "no contradictions" is one of the “proofs” for Allah?
How to explain all the cases of invalid logic? - no god would need to use invalid logic.
How to explain the often unclear language in the book, even concerning serious points?
Also see 13/1d+e+f above and 43/4 and 85/21-22 below.
###06 17/88c: (YA2289): "The proof of the Quran is in its own beauty and nature, and the circumstances in which it was promulgated - - -". This is such a silly sentence that at first we did not take it into this "book". But on the other hand it is one of the very few, if not the only "proof" Islam has got for its religion. A book where the prose is beautiful - - - after being polished for 250 years (from ca. 650 AD till ca. 900 AD) by top scholars. And what is the nature of the book: A bloody, inhuman and to a great part immoral war religion very far from "do unto others like you want others do onto you"- and the book itself flowing over of mistaken facts and other mistakes, of contradictions and cases of invalid logic, unclear language, etc. And the circumstances? Claimed received by a person liking power and later during his bloody reign as the leader of highwaymen and in the end as a warlord - some godly circumstances? And this is the only - or at least one of the very few - "proofs" for that Islam is a genuine religion, not according to us, but as you see according to central and certified Islamic religious literature. Except for the claimed, but invalid "signs" plus some as invalid "proofs" listed in the book. You meet bluffs like this from Muslims and from Islam sometimes, but remember that they are bluffs and without any root in reality (though many Muslims honestly believe what they say - blind belief or little education).
"A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion".
"Strong claims need strong proofs.
"A claim without a proof maybe dismissed without a proof".
"Claims are cheap, but only proofs are proofs".
"- - - blind "taqlid", i.e. an unthinking acceptance of religious doctrines or assertions - - - ((A)23/11). How many millions of Muslims are practicing this?
This content was posted with assistance from M. A. Khan, the editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islam Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism and Slavery" (available online)