Bible versus Quran: 1000+ Differences & Contradictions

 

The Quran: Its Divergence from the Bible

Surah 10 - Yunus (Jonah)

Mecca 621 AD

001 10/1: "- - - (the Quran is*) the Book of Wisdom". With so many errors, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc. in the Quran, we do not think this claim merits a comment.

Well, one remark: Anybody can read and compare the Bible and the Quran and see which one contains most wisdom.

002 10/2a: "- - - We (Allah*) have sent (the Quran*) - - -". No omniscient god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran. It is slander, heresy, and blasphemy to blame a book as full of mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic - resulting in wrong conclusions - unclear language, clumsy explanations or statements (according to Muslims who have to "explain" they mean something else, in order to "explain" away mistakes and difficult points), etc. as the Quran on a god.

003 10/2b: "- - - inspiration - - -". Muhammad claimed he got most of his claimed messages from Allah by inspiration - a very convenient way of getting messages, as one can be inspired by many things - and as nobody can check if it really is inspiration - or if some is cold calculation. The prophets in the Bible got their messages by direct contact, by visions, or by dreams (4. Mos. 12/6-8), and the word "inspiration" is never used in the entire Bible in such a connection.

004 10/2c: "- - - good news (the teaching of the Quran*) - - -". Is a book as full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. and not from a god, religiously "good news"? This especially if the Bible is right when it indirectly, but impossible to mistake says that Allah is no god, and even more so: The realities about the Quran and about Allah tell the same?!.

005 10/2d: "- - - Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

006 10/2e: "This (Muhammad*) is indeed an evident sorcerer!" Already then some understood that things were wrong in Muhammad's new religion. Jesus did not meet such reactions - according to the old books he proved his powers and at least many of his words, and few doubted he was something special (though some claimed he might be from the dark forces).

##007 10/3a: "Verily your Lord (god*) is Allah - - -". This is a very questionable truth, as both the circumstances around the Quran and all its mistakes and worse (f.x. the use of invalid logic and the use of lies) + the fact that the absolutely only source for the claims about Allah's existence is a man of doubtful moral and as doubtful reliability - as he believed in the use of dishonesty and deceit as working tools - and with much to gain from making people believe in his new religion and platform of power - all this put together, make it extremely unlikely that Allah even exists, and even less likely that he - if he exists - is correctly described among all the errors in the Quran. As a number of f.x. the moral rules in the Quran fit a devil better than they fit an honest, good and benevolent god, there even is a slight chance for that he belongs to the dark forces. If he f.x. dressed up like Gabriel to deceive Muhammad, Muhammad would not have one chance to discover the deception.

Serious scientists tend to believe Muhammad himself believed at least some of what he told the first years, but that he was more of a cold brain later. This may point to that he may have had f.x. TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) - a mental disease which can give just the kind of fits and religious illusions Muhammad is said to have had - like modern medical science suspects, but that he became less a believer and more of a self-centered, scheming warlord over the years. They also tend to mean he was relatively honest in the beginning (which fits the Muslim claim that he had a good reputation as a businessman before he started Islam), but that he was morally destroyed over the years by his total power - this happens to many a dictator.

We have found no serious scientist believing the Quran is from a god - f.x. the quality is too low and the mistakes, etc. by far too many. It also is symptomatic that in spite of Muhammad's claim that Islam was an old religion, scientist name Islam the youngest of the world religions. And as symptomatic the none of them in their research - f.x. in history - use information from the Quran older than ca. 610 AD - it is reckoned to be too unreliable.(We of course know about the highly intelligent Muslim scholars work through the centuries, but their starting-point has been: "The Quran is 100% right. How can we get the facts of the world fit the Quran's words?" And to quote an old proverb: "When the information is most wrong, the result often is most original". ).

###Finally - regarding the Muslim scholars - we quote another saying: "One student with right facts easily gets a more correct result than 20 professors with wrong facts".

008 10/3b: "Verily your Lord (god*) is Allah, who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". According to the Bible the only god is Yahweh. As for creation the Bible says this was done by Yahweh, but here both the Bible and the Quran may be wrong according to science.

009 10/3c: "Verily your Lord (god*) is Allah - - - (who) is firmly established on the Throne of authority, regulating and governing all things". According to the Bible, this is Yahweh's position. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat.)

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

010 10/3d: "No intercessor (can plead with Him (Allah*)) except after His leave - - -". According to the Bible Yahweh do not ask for leave from anyone. (But it is interesting that Muhammad was promised permission to intercede at the Day of Doom according to himself - one of the reasons why you had better be a friend of his, so that he could intercede for you.)

011 10/3e: "This is Allah your (people's*) Lord - - -". For one thing this cannot be true unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever). For another thing the Bible says that the only real god is Yahweh, not Allah.

012 10/4a: "To Him (Allah*) will be your return (at the Day of Doom*) - all of you". According to the Bible will be to Yahweh, not to Allah.

013 10/4b: "The promise from Allah is true and sure." Not unless he exists and in addition is a god - the promises of one from the dark forces may be little reliable, people say. (But both the Quran and the Bible indirectly, but clearly tell he is not a god). Besides: Are promises given in a book full of mistakes, etc. + even some lies, and told by an unreliable man with a personal agenda, true and sure? And also: Muhammad in addition to preaching his religion, also was a politician, and how many politicians are reliable?

Finally one fact: There never in all history of man, and no place in all the world, was a proved case of Allah giving anyone a promise, not to mention kept one - truck-fulls of claims, but never a proved case. The best proof for this, is Islam's silence about such a case. According to the old books Yahweh and Jesus both proved themselves, but Allah and Muhammad never produced anything but words and claims.

014 10/4c: "It is He (Allah*) who beginneth the process of Creation, and repeateth it - - -". According to the Bible this is done by Yahweh - and in this case both books may be wrong.

Another fact: Allah never provably showed the power neither of creating, nor of resurrection - claims but never a proved case. If the old books tell the truth, Yahweh at least proved his power of resurrection - several times.

015 10/4d: "- - - He (Allah*) may reward - - -". Not possible unless he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad, none of which is proved.

016 10/4e: "- - - He (Allah*) may reward with justice - - -". Take a look at the Quran's code of moral and its judicial code and see how much is justice and how much is injustice there.

017 10/4f: "- - - righteousness - - -". See 2/21b above.

018 10/4g: "- - - a Penalty grievous - - -". According to the Bible there only is one god who can send penalty - or reward - and that is Yahweh. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

As a "brother" of al-Takiyya and Kitman, etc., we should also mention the tradition for "Hilah": A "device to stop, hinder, or trick - - -. Stratagem to avoid or circumvent legal principles or rigid constructs. - - - utilized - - - to solve contradictions between (political powers, cultural choices, etc*) and Quranic principles". (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). In plain words: ways/tricks of seemingly or formally being honest or correct, while in reality being dishonest or incorrect. It seems that this aspect of "the religion of truth" was first campaigned of the Hanifi law school, but later utilized also by the other 3 Muslim law schools. "Hilah" is dishonesty in disguise. True honesty is not always central in Islam and among Islam's religious and moral forefront.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them. The names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?).

019 10/5a: "It is He (Allah*) who made - - - the sun - - - the moon". According to the Bible this was created by Yahweh - and according to science both books may be wrong on this point.

020 10/5b: "Nowise did Allah create but in truth and righteousness". There will be little left of this claim if the Bible tells the truth when it claims Yahweh created everything - but in this case both the Bible and the Quran may be wrong according to science. Also see 10/4c above.

021 10/5c: "- - - truth - - ". See 2/26 above.

022 10/5d: "- - - righteousness - - -". See 2/21b above.

023 10/5e: "- - - His (Allah's*) Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

024 10/5f: "- - - those who understand - - -". See 9/11d above.

025 10/6a: "- - - Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

026 10/6b: "- - - all that Allah hath created - - -". Allah could create nothing unless he existed and was a god.

027 10/6c: "- - - fear Him (Allah*)". Why do so when the reality behind the Quran and also the real fact that Allah never in any way or any place or any time has manifested himself, in practice prove that he does not exist, or at least is no major god?

If this is the case - that Allah just is a made up pagan god - this means that he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by parents, Muslim clergy, Islamic compulsion, and the disproved claim that the Quran is from a god and tells the truth and only the truth.

028 10/7: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

029 10/8a: "Their (non-Muslims'*) abode is the Fire - - -". According to the Bible this is not the case for followers of Yahweh. Worse for Muslims: As the Bible tells there only is one god - Yahweh - this means that if the Bible is right on this point, Allah is not a god. This again in case means Allah is a false god and belief in the Quran superstition - and Islam a made up religion. If this is correct, Muslims are followers of a made up - a false - god, and Muslims not entitled to enter Paradise.

This is the plain reality if the Bible is right that only Yahweh is a god. Or if for other reasons Allah is not a real god.

030 10/8b: "- - - (evil) - - -". See 2/21b above.

031 10/9a: "- - - righteousness - - -". See 2/21b above.

032 10/9b: "- - - their Lord (Allah*) will guide them (Muslims*) because of their Faith - - -". This is not possible unless Allah exists and in addition is a god - and if the Bible is reliable, there only is one god, Yahweh. Besides not even a god is a reliable guide if he uses a guidebook of a quality like the Quran. (What kind of a guide one from the dark forces will be, if he in addition uses a guidebook of a quality like the Quran, we do not mention.)

033 10/9c: "- - - beneath them (Muslims in Paradise*) will flow rivers in the Garden of Bliss". The Quran's Paradise is the poor and naive and uneducated desert dwellers dream of a royal luxury life with and with a great harem in addition (Paradise is for men mainly in the Quran). The Bible's Paradise is that you "will be like the angels in heaven" (Matt. 22/30). This is one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not serving the same god.

We may add that we know which Paradise we would prefer if we had the choice - and which one is most worthy an omniscient and omnipotent god.(Allah's is quite a primitive one and over the centuries and more also a very boring one).

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the paradises of the Bible and of the Quran, and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

034 10/10a: "Praise be to Allah - - -". Please read the surahs from Medina - skip the cheap, glorifying words dictators normally use about themselves, and judge from the far more reliable deeds, demands, introduced codes of conduct, codes of moral, etc. (When there are discrepancies between words and reality, we always believe in the reality.) Do you find he deserves praise? - - - if he exists? (And if he does not exist, there is absolutely no reason for praise.)

035 10/10b: "Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the Worlds (plural and wrong*)". - Muhammad believed there were 7 worlds (65/12b - according to Hadiths they were named and placed one on top of the others - easy enough as the worlds are flat. Also see 26/16 below)! Is there any meaning in praising Allah if he does not exist - or if he all the same exists, but is no god? According to the Bible Yahweh is the cherisher and sustainer and more of the world - and the only god.

036 10/11a: "If Allah were to hasten - - -". Impossible unless he exists and is a god.

037 10/11b: "- - - their (people's*) meeting with Us (Allah - at the Day of Doom*) - - -". According to the Bible this day will be run by Yahweh, not by Allah.

038 10/12: "Thus do the transgressors seem fair in their (own*) eyes!" What the Quran "forgets" to mention, and Muslims do not think over, is that this also goes for Muslims. There are few religions as transgressing, inhuman, unjust, and immoral - and more - like the apartheid, looting, and war religion of Islam. Compare Islam to normal religions, normal moral codes, etc. and you will find an ugly picture. But Muslims are so used to their own rules, moral codes, etc., etc. that they honestly believe these sides of the religion is excellent - "fair in their (own*) eyes".

039 10/13a: "Generations before you (Muhammad/Muslims*) We destroyed - - -". You meet Muslims slandering Yahweh for being a harsh and murderous god in parts of OT. But according to the Quran Allah was/is far more so. And: If one accepts Islam's claim that Yahweh and Allah are the same god, then Allah has done all the mentioned killings + the killings done by Yahweh - claimed to be aka Allah - in addition. There is no doubt which of the two gods is most murderous.

040 10/13b: "- - - did wrong - - - sin - - -". See 2/21b above.

041 10/13c: "- - - Clear Signs (here intended to mean for Allah*) - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

042 10/13d: "Thus do We (Allah*) requite those who sin!" Back to square 1 again: Impossible unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, good or bad.

043 10/14a: "Then We (Allah*) made you (the Arabs*) heirs in the land after them (earlier tribes*) - - -". This only may - may - be true if Allah exists and is a god - or a powerful devil.

044 10/14b: "Then We (Allah*) made you (the Arabs*) heirs in the land after them (earlier tribes*), to see how you would behave". If Allah is omniscient, and even more so if he predestines everything and every detail like the Quran claims, and thus knows everything already, where is the logic in this sentence?

045 10/15a: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Clear Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

046 10/15b: "- - - what (the Quran*) is revealed unto me (Muhammad*) - - -". Is the Quran revealed? - and as the quality of the book proves it is from no god: In case from whom? - dark forces? - a mentally sick brain? - one or more cold human brains? (= the only 3 possibilities.)

047 10/16a: "If Allah had so willed - - -". One of the many places in the Quran where Muhammad boasts of what his claimed god could do if he only willed. For some curious reason it seems that Allah never willed. 

048 10/16b: "- - - will ye (non-Muslims*) not then understand?" A problem for Muhammad was just the opposite; that many - perhaps extra many among the followers of Yahweh - did understand that something was seriously wrong with Muhammad's new religion.

049 10/17a: "Who doth more wrong than such as forge a lie against Allah - - -". Does this also include the ones telling about the good Allah and about his immoral points, his lust for war, etc., if Allah does not exist and everything is a fairy tale and superstition?

050 10/17b: "- - - wrong - - - sins - - -". See 2/21b above.

051 10/17c: "- - - His (Allah's*) Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

052 10/18a: "They (non-Muslims*) serve, besides Allah (other gods*) - - -". At least when it comes to the followers of Yahweh, they do not join gods with Allah - they simply do not believe he exists (well, many are not better informed than they believe in Muhammad's never proved - and documented wrong - claim that Allah is the same god as Yahweh, but Allah in case was a very twisted and wrong image of Yahweh). And actually it is the same for other religions - there are few non-Muslim religions believing in Allah, so they do not "join other gods" with him, but have one or more gods INSTEAD OF Allah. Another fact is that if Allah does not exist, it is not possible to join anything with him, included other gods - - - and there nowhere was or is any proof or even clear indication for the existence of Allah - only Muhammad's words, and Muhammad was a man with a very doubtful moral and reliability.

053 10/18b: "They (non-Muslims*) serve, besides Allah (other gods*), things that hurt them not nor profit them". One impolite question: When and where in the whole world and through the eons was the last documented case of Allah hurting or helping even one person - or for that case a dog or anything else?

054 10/18c: " - - - glory to Him (Allah*) - - -". Why if he does not exist and/or is not a god? Besides: Even if he was a god, please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, the unjust parts of the sharia laws, etc. How much glory do you think he deserves?

055 10/18d: "And far is He (Allah*) above the partners they ascribe (to Him)!" For one thing this cannot be true unless he exists and is a god (which the Bible - and the Quran - indirectly, but clearly says Allah is not), and for another The Bible also says that no-one is above - or even on the same level as - Yahweh.

056 10/20a: "Why was not a Sign sent down to him (Muhammad*) from his Lord (Allah*)?" Already at that time many saw that thing were wrong in Muhammad's new religion and asked for proofs. Muhammad was unable to produce anything but fast words and claims.

057 10/20b: "- - - a Sign - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

####058 10/20c: "The Unseen is only for Allah (to know)". One of the places confirming that Muhammad was no real prophet, as he was unable "to see the unseen" = when it comes to prophets; not able to make prophesies.

059 10/21a: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

####060 10/21b: "Swifter to plan is Allah!" This indicates that Allah is good at deception and thus at cheating his opponents/bad people. And if Allah - and for that case Muhammad - can cheat and deceive, of course all Muslims can do the same. This is one of the sentences behind the rather special rules Islam has for use of dishonesty, cheating, deceiving, etc. (al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie, and Kitman - the lawful half-truth - an acceptance of use of dishonesty you do not find in any other of the big religions, and hardly in many small ones). Other al-Taqiyya basics in f.x. 3/54 and 8/30 above.

061 10/21c: "Verily, Our (Allah's*) messengers record all the plots that ye (people*) make!". A nice threat to use for Muhammad, but the Bible does not tell about such a duty for the Biblical prophets. One more strong indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

Besides: Why does an omniscient god need records? There several places in the Quran is stated that Allah uses records.

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

062 10/23a: "- - - right - - -". See 2/21b above.

063 10/23b: "- - - to Us (Allah*) is your (peoples'*) return (at the Day of Doom*) - - -". According to the Bible this return is to Yahweh. Both cannot be true. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat.)

064 10/24a: "- - - the rain which We (Allah*) send down from the skies - - -". This is one of the points where the Bible disagrees, but where science tells that both books may be wrong.

065 10/24b: "- - - We make it like a harvest - - -". Impossible unless Allah exists - and for a very small area unless he in a addition also is something supernatural, good or bad.

066 10/24c: "Thus does We (Allah*) explain the Signs in detail for those who reflect". Similar claims you find some places in the Quran. How many places do you understand the explanation? - and how many places are they logically valid?

Would a god use unclear or obscure explanations?

067 10/24d: "- - - those who reflect". See 23/30b below.

068 10/25a: "But Allah doth call to the Home of Peace (= Paradise*)". Is there some significance in the fact that peace is one of the big and frequently mentioned attractions in Paradise, whereas in this life Muslims are more or less forced to go fighting if top leaders demand it and find ways to claim the fight is a "holy" war - a jihad?

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

069 10/25b: "He (Allah*) doth guide - - -". Which he cannot do if he does not exist, and hardly if he does exist after all, but uses the Quran with all its errors, etc. as a guidebook.

070 10/25C: "He (Allah*) doth guide whom He pleaseth - - -". As a contrast Yahweh according to the Bible guides whoever wants it and qualifies. If Allah has predestined who are to end in Hell - which he according to Hadiths does some 5 months before you are born - the same often is not possible for Allah. Another indication for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god.

071 10/25d: "- - - a Way that is straight - - -". These were Muhammad's words. Jesus on the other hand talked about the narrow road leading to Yahweh. It tells something that Muhammad talked about the straight and thus easy road to Paradise, whereas Jesus talked about the narrow and thus difficult road. Populism vs. realism?

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

072 10/26a: "- - - do right - - -". See 2/21b above.

073 10/26b: "- - - the Garden (Paradise*) - - -". The Quran's Paradise is the poor and naive and uneducated desert dwellers dream of a royal luxury life, and with a great harem in addition (Paradise is for men mainly in the Quran). The Bible's Paradise is that you "will be like the angels in heaven" (Matt. 22/30). This is one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not serving the same god.

We may add that we know which Paradise we would prefer if we had the choice - and which one is most worthy an omniscient and omnipotent god.(Allah's is quite a primitive one and over the centuries and more also a very boring one).

One point the Quran never explains, is how it is possible for you to have your family around you like the Quran promises, if not all of them qualifies for the same heaven or garden? Your son and daughter qualify for garden number 1 and 3 respectively, your wife for number 2, whereas you yourself were killed in the Battle of Tours in 732 AD and qualify for Firdaws. How to collect your family around you, like the Quran states is a fact?

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

074 10/26c: "- - - they (Muslims in Paradise*) will abide therein (for aye)!" But 11/107a and 11/108 may indicate that the Quran's and Islam's Paradise is not quite forever. (Islam explains this away with that this just means that the people there will be transferred to an even better place - not too difficult, as the Quran's Paradise is not much of a Paradise - but this nowhere is said in the Quran). And 6/128c, 11/107a, and 78/23 may indicate the same for Hell.

This problem you do not find in the Bible - there the Paradise (and Hell) clearly is forever.

075 10/27a: "But those (non-Muslims/bad Muslims*) who have earned evil (will have a reward (from Allah*) of like evil - - -". Impossible unless Allah exists and in addition is something supernatural - white or black.

076 10/27b: "- - - evil - - -". See 2/21b above.

079 10/27c: "- - - they (non-Muslims/bad Muslims*) will abide therein (Hell*) (for aye)!" See 10/26c above.

078 10/28a: "One day (the Day of Doom*) shall We (Allah*) gather them together - - -". According to the Bible it is Yahweh who will do this.

079 10/28b: "- - - joined gods (with Us (Allah*)) - - -". At least when it comes to the followers of Yahweh, they do not join gods with Allah - they simply do not believe he exists (well, many are not better informed than they believe in Muhammad's never proved - and documented wrong - claim that Allah is the same god as Yahweh, but Allah in case was a very twisted and wrong image of Yahweh). And actually it is the same for other religions - there are few non-Muslim religions believing in Allah, so they do not "join other gods" with him, but have one or more gods INSTEAD OF Allah. Another fact is that if Allah does not exist, it is not possible to join anything with him, included other gods - - - and there nowhere was or is any proof or even clear indication for the existence of Allah - only Muhammad's words, and Muhammad was a man with a very doubtful moral and reliability.

080 10/28c: "- - - and their (non-Muslims'*) 'partners' (false gods*) shall say: - - -". According to the Quran false gods - from tree or metal or something - are required to speak and witness at the Day of Dom. There is not a hint about such talking in the Bible.

081 10/29: "Enough is Allah for a witness (if he exists and is a god*) between us (the false gods*) and you (non-Muslims*): we certainly knew nothing about your worshipping of us". See 10/28c just above.

Another point: Allah is not enough of a witness unless he at least exists.

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", "assuredly”, etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

082 10/30a: "- - - they (all people*) will be brought back to Allah (at the Day of Doom*) - - -. According to the Bible it will be Yahweh, not Allah, who will rule that day.

083 10/30b: "- - - their (non-Muslims'*) invented falsehood (false gods*) will leave them in the lurch". One thing is that according to the Bible, the followers of Yahweh will not be left in the lurch. Another thing is where Muslims will be left if Allah is a false god - and remember that for one thing the Quran itself by means of all its errors, contradictions, etc. proves that there is no god behind that book, and for another the Bible tells that there only is one god, Yahweh. 

If Allah is a made up god - or if he is wrongly described among all the other errors in the Quran - also the Muslims will be "left in the lurch" (but perhaps - perhaps - not the followers of Yahweh or other possible real gods).

Not to mention what will happen if Allah that day turns out to be from the dark forces.

084 10/31a: "Who is it that sustains you (people*) (in life) from the sky (rain and sun*) and from the earth (food*)?". Yahweh according to the Bible, nature and partly the farmer and fisherman according to science.

085 10/31b: "And who is it that brings the living from the dad and the dead from the living?" Here the expected answer is Allah. But Allah never once proved that he had power over the death. As a contrast both Yahweh, Jesus, and a few of the prophets and apostles proved this, if the old books tell the truth. An indication for that Yahweh had powers Allah had not, and thus for that they are not the same god. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them. The names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?)

086 10/31c: "And who is it that rules and regulates all affairs?" A parallel to 10/32a and 10/32b above.

087 10/32a: "- - - Allah, your (people's*) real Cherisher and Sustainer - - -". The old facts: Only possible - possible - if Allah exists and in addition is a powerful god. Possibilities more or less nullified by all the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in the Quran (proving that there was no god involved in that book), and the possibility that he was/is a god totally nullified if the Bible tells the truth when it says there only is one god, Yahweh.

In addition the Bible tells that the real sustainer and cherisher is Yahweh, not Allah.

#####088 10/32b: "- - - apart from the Truth, what (remains) but error?" When so many points in the Quran are not true - and nothing essential is proved - what remains but error? Also see 2/26 above.

###089 10/33: "Thus is the Word of thy (Muslims'/people's*) Lord (Allah*) proved true". This is a funny one, but typical for Islam and for Muslims when debating: In the verses 10/31 and 10/32 are listed, but not proved in any way, some things Muhammad claims Allah does. Then here he claims that these never proved claims prove that Allah tells the truth!!

We quote from the outside: "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". In this case - and in many/all other central cases in the Quran - not one of the underlying claims is proved caused by Allah (they only are claims - any believer in any religion can just as cheaply make the same claims on behalf of his/her god as long as no proofs are necessary). The Quran's conclusion here is totally outside the rules for making logical conclusions, and totally without any value. No god has made this logical imbecility.

090 10/34a: "Say: 'It is Allah Who originates creation and repeats it - - -'". Yes, this is said - even said many times by Muslims. But even though repeating a thing many times may make people believing in it, it does not prove anything about a claim being true or not. And not to forget: Muhammad many places claimed Allah created, but there was and is not one single proved case - only words. And as you see from the Quran, Muhammad's words are not too reliable.

Just to mention it: According to the Bible it is Yahweh who does this, not Allah. And if the old books tell the truth, Yahweh several times has proved his power in front of witnesses. For Allah there only are words and claims - even in the Quran.

091 10/34b: "- - - how are ye deluded away (from the truth)?". As the Quran is full of errors, contradictions, invalid logic, etc. and even a few(?) lies, then who are deluded? - the ones blindly believing in this book? - or the ones able to see at least some of the mistakes and understand what they mean?

092 10/34c: "- - - (- - - the truth) - - -". See 2/26 above.

093 10/35a: "Of your (non-Muslims*) 'partners' (other gods than Allah*) is there any that can give any guidance towards Truth?" According to the Bible Yahweh can. Another question is if Allah can - especially if he does not exist (not to mention what his guidance is like if he belongs to the dark forces).

094 10/35b: "- - - Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

095 10/35c: "It is Allah who gives Guidance towards the Truth - - -". Once more the old fact: Only possible if Allah exists, and in addition is a god, none of which is proved (but actually disproved). And to remind you: If he uses his (claimed) own guidebook, the Quran, it is choking full of errors.

#096 10/35d: "Is then He who gives Guidance to Truth more worthy to be followed, or he who finds not guidance (himself) unless he is guided?" This is a very essential question when one knows that the Quran is so full of errors, contradictions, etc., that it neither represents truth, nor any omniscient god.

##097 10/36a: "But most of them follow nothing but fancy: truly fancy can be of no avail against Truth". A very thought provoking sentence when you know the Quran is not from a god, and thus that if Islam does not prove - prove, not only claim - otherwise, the book they built their religion on, is just that; fancy.

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

##098 10/36b: >"- - - truly fancy can be of no avail against Truth". This is the reason why http://www.1000mistakes.com on the net has been called: "The most dangerous book Islam has ever met - and http://www.1000quran-mistakes.com perhaps number two".

099 10/36c: "- - - Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

100 10/36d: "Verily, Allah is well aware of all that they (non-Muslims*) do". Why then does he have to test and test and test - even his followers? Claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and he thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc. + Islamic compulsion): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

###101 10/37a: "This Quran is not such as can be produced by other then Allah - - -". Using normal speech one would call this either a naivety or a bluff. The Quran is not a well made book. It is said the Arab linguistics used in it is good, but when you know that the language was polished by the best brains in Islam for some 250 years before it got its present form around 900 AD, that is no surprise. But what does a nice "wrapping paper" help, if the quality of the contents is deplorable? And have you noticed that when Muslims boast about the quality of the Quran, the eloquent use of the Arab language is the only point they mention? - not a word about composition, structure, disposition, correct facts (except claims about the book is 100% correct!!), correct details, or anything else which is characteristic for a good book. Well, as said they claim that the book is without mistakes and contradictions, and thus has to be from a god - claims so obviously wrong that we do not squander time on debating it here, but claims Muslims HAVE to make, because if there is even one mistake in the Quran, it is not from an omniscient god, and then the religion is a made up one.

You meet Muslims daring you to make a surah or a book like the Quran. It is a bluff - it would be easy for many a good writer with enough knowledge of religion and old folklore, etc. to write as good and even far better a book than the Quran. But why? - not one Muslim would admit that it was better, because that means that the Quran is not from a god, and thus that something is seriously wrong with Islam.

Another interesting, but little known fact here, is that there were made competing surahs. Muhammad and his followers did not even try to evaluate if these surahs were as good or better than Muhammad's - without hesitance or ceremony they were stamped heretical and fought against by words and weapons. Here are some of the makers:

1. The Temunite man Maslama - derisively called Musailima (= Little Maslama) by the Muslims - (the most known of them - he was killed by the Muslims).

2. Laqit bin Malik in Oman.

3. 'Alhala bin Ka'b el-Aswad in Yemen.

4. The Asadite man Toleiha.

5. The female prophet Sagah.

But as said above: There is no reason for making a better Quran - Muslims will not accept that it may be as good or better no matter the quality, because that will be one more proof for that the Quran is not from a god. They simply will fight it. Also: Copycats just will be laughing-stocks if they pretend to be earnest - they just are copy-cats, no matter how good quality they deliver.

You also will meet Muslims claiming that the wisdom in the Quran is of such a quality that it cannot be made of a human brain, and thus proves Allah. One thing is that if it had been true, it might have proved there was a god somewhere, but it had not proved that this god was Allah, as the book and all its mistakes clearly is from no god, and thus also not from the claimed god Allah. But please read the Quran and look for wisdom - not big words and claims, as it takes no wisdom to produce such ones, but for real wisdom. Do you find anything - anything at all - outside what a human brain can produce? And do you find points - f.x. mistakes, contradictions, weak explanations, unclear language, invalid logic, etc. - which no god - let alone an omniscient one - would use? (There are "long bananas" of them.)

This claim from Islam and Muslims does not merit any further comment.

#102 10/37b: "- - - it (the Quran*) is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it (= the Bible*) - - -". There are so many and so fundamental differences between the Bible and the Quran, that this claim simply is not true. It is not possible for a person with a minimum quality brain and an open mind to read the Bible and the Quran and then afterwards be able to believe the Quran is confirming the Bible. On the contrary; on many, many points it is not a confirmation of the Bible, but a contradiction to it - which the Quran has to be, as it is the basis for a distaste, apartheid, suppression, and war religion.

#103 10/37c: "- - - it (the Quran*) is a fuller explanation of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". Please compare the fullness of the Bible and the "fullness" of the Quran. Do not laugh afterwards - as we have said before, it is impolite.

#104 10/37d: "- - - (the Quran is*) from the Lord (Allah*) of the Worlds (plural and wrong - see 26/16 below*)". No omniscient god ever took part in the making or deliverance of a book of a quality like the Quran - as we have said before it is slander, heresy, and blasphemy to blame a book so full of mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic - resulting in wrong conclusions - unclear language, clumsy explanations or statements (according to Muslims who have to "explain" they mean something else, in order to "explain" away mistakes and difficult points), etc. on a god.

105 10/38a: "He (Muhammad*) has forged it (the Quran*)?" Already at that time many saw that things were seriously wrong in Muhammad's new religion, and asked questions. For a comparison: Jesus never was troubled with such claims - according to the old books he was able to prove his power and at least a lot of his words. Some wanted him to be a representative from the dark forces, but few doubted he was something special.

106 10/38b: "Bring then a surah like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can, besides Allah, if it be ye (skeptics*) speak the truth!" See 10/37a above.

107 10/38c: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

108 10/39a: "Nay, they charge with falsehood that (i.e. the Quran) whose knowledge they (non-Muslims*) cannot compass - - -". No comment, and none necessary - this claim only is for the naive, brainwashed, or uneducated ones. Also see 22/3a below - not to mention http://www.1000mistakes.com.

But we may add that there is more knowledge about f.x. humans and human nature in the Bible than in the Quran - Muhammad knew much about such things, but did not write well about it (perhaps he could not, because it might make people recognize his own manipulations and use of psychology sometimes).

109 10/39b: "- - - falsehood - - - do wrong - - -". See 2/21b above.

110 10/40: "- - - (Allah*) knoweth best those who are out for mischief". See 10/36c above.

111 10/41: "If they (people*) charge thee (Muhammad*) with falsehood - - -". See 10/38a above.

112 10/42: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) are without understanding - - -". Who are without understanding? The ones believing Muhammad? The ones instead believing f.x. in Yahweh? The ones who were/are able to understand that something like the Quran with all its mistakes, contradictions, etc. impossibly could come from a god? The ones who in addition were/are able to see that a god is a good and convenient platform of power for many a self proclaimed prophet. Also see 16/67 below.

113 10/43 "- - - guide - - -". It is not possible to give reliable guidance from a guidebook full of errors, contradictions, etc.

114 10/44a "- - - Allah will not deal unjustly with man in aught - - -". Again this fact: He cannot deal with anyone at all unless he exists - and he cannot do much unless he is something supernatural, good or bad.

115 10/44b: "- - - unjustly - - -". See 2/21b above, and also compare the sharia laws to normal laws built on normal codes of moral and justice.

An extra comment here about laws: Many Muslims refer to that Jesus said he did not come to change the old laws, and claim that the old Mosaic laws thus must rule also Christians - and that Christians are sinning against them. But they conveniently skip that he added "until everything is accomplished" (f.x. Matt.5/18), and also skip that he on the cross added "it is finished" (John 19/30) - everything was accomplished (and may be enough was accomplished even before). As many of the Islamic Laws are closer to the old Mosaic laws than to the milder ones introduced by Jesus, and to find sins among opponents, it was essential also for Muhammad to stress that Jesus just was confirming the old Mosaic laws, f.x. concerning food. That the claim was not true, did not matter much to him, and does not matter much to Islam of today (though to be honest we think most Muslims do not know better). But even the Quran in 5/15c confirms that the god changed old laws. And f.x. Matt.5/34-36, Matt. 5/43-44, Matt. 12/3-12, Matt. 15/11-20, Luke 14/5, and Peter's sights in Acts 10/10-16 made it clear that Jesus and/or Yahweh changed laws - and Mark 7/14-19 and not least the Quran in 3/50a directly confirm that Jesus did change some of the old laws - even though that clearly was not the reason why he came to Earth.

#116 10/44c: "- - - it is man that wrongs his own soul". This is wrong if Allah predestines everything, like the Quran states several places. (The Quran also claims that man has free will, but to combine total predestination with even partly free will is impossibility even for an omnipotent god - the two are mutually excluding each other, and thus maximum one can be true. Even the Muslim scholars admit it is impossible to explain how the two can be combined.)

117 10/45a: "One day (the Day of Doom*) He (Allah*) will gather them (people*) together - - -". According to the Bible this will be done by Yahweh, not by Allah.

118 10/45b: "- - - assuredly those will be lost who denied the meeting with Allah (at the Day of Doom*) - - -". According to the Bible not to be lost that day, you have to believe in the meeting with Yahweh, not with Allah.

119 10/45c: "- - - true guidance". It is not possible to give true guidance from a guidebook full of errors, contradictions, etc.

120 10/46a: "Whether We (Allah*) show - - -". Allah can show nothing unless he exists, and nothing of the Hereafter unless he in addition is something supernatural, good or bad.

121 10/46b: "- - - some parts of what We (Allah*) promise them (here non-Muslims*) - - -". A parallel to 10/46a above.

122 10/46c: "- - - We (Allah*) take thy (people's*) soul - - -". For one thing this Allah cannot do unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which is proved, and for another the Bible says it is Yahweh, not Allah, who does this.

123 10/46d: "- - - (- - - Our (Allah's*) Mercy - - -". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, the unjust parts of the sharia laws, the Quran's code of conduct during raids and wars - how much real mercy do you find? - especially towards non-Muslims (it is easy to be merciful towards friends - where real mercy really manifests itself, is in the behavior towards opponents).

124 10/46e: "- - - to Us (Allah*) is their (people's*) return (at the Day of Doom*) - - -". A parallel to 10/46a above.

#####125 10/47a: "To every people (was sent) a Messenger - - -". This is contradicting the Bible. And it is likely it contradicts reality, too, because neither science nor Islam has been able to find the slightest traces from the claimed 124ooo or more prophets, from their Quran-like books, or from their religion older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission.

#####We quote an interesting claim from Muhammad Asad's comments to this verse in his "The Message of the Quran" (translated from Swedish): "This verse stresses the continuity in the divine revelations straight through all the history of man (may be 200ooo years only for Homo Sapiens*) and the fact (!!*) that no community, no epoch, and no civilization - - - throughout all times has been left without guiding from prophets - - -".

Besides the strong and never documented claims - normal for the Quran, normal for Islam, normal for Muslims - the interesting point here is the Muslim use of the word "fact" - nothing is a fact as long as it only is a claim (but Muslims often disuse words like "fact"). But the only thing which is proved in this connection is that neither science nor Islam has been able to find the slightest trace from a book like the Quran (from the Bible, which most likely was produced in far fewer copies than the 124ooo+ copies of the Quran indicated by Hadiths, as a Bible was time-consuming and expensive to make, one has found some 44ooo copies, fragments, quotations, and references older than 610 AD), not the slightest traces or rumors from a god like Allah, except from the old pagan Arab moon god al-Lah, and that in reality was not Allah as Muhammad wanted him to be (from Yahweh - partly under his older name El - there are thousands of traces, f.x. his name as part of old words), not the slightest traces or even folklore or legends from prophets for such a religion (for prophets for Yahweh there are lots of documentation in old scriptures included the Bible). And not one trace from a religion like Islam. Nothing at all neither about a god like Allah or a book like the Quran or a religion like Islam older than 610 AD.

This is the value of a word like "fact" in Islam and for Islam and its Muslims. And if you check on words like f.x. "proof" you will find similar situations - the words often are strongly misused.

We may add that the first humans - Homo Habilis - are some 2.5 million years old, and our first clear forefathers - the first humanoids - are some 6 million years old. The archeologists never found any indication for a god like Allah, a book like the Quran, a religion like Islam, or "messengers" from such a religion or such a god - not to mention deeds done by such a god. Did Allah let all these humanoids and humans end in Hell by not informing them about Islam? Or if he accepted them to his Paradise in spite of their sins and lack of belief in Allah, because they had not been told about the god (no "messengers?), why then - if he was/is a good and benevolent god - did he start telling humans about himself and thus judging everyone who did not believe in the stories about him, to Hell? And why not even one valid proof for his existence, so that skeptics could come to belief? Not a good and benevolent god at least.

If you keep your eyes and ears open when reading Islamic literature or debating with Muslims, you will find MANY such cases. Informative about both Islam, its literature, its scholars, and its Muslims.

126 10/47b: "- - - when their (a people's*) Messenger comes (before them), the matter will be judged between them with justice, and they will not be wronged". Please read Muslim moral and judicial codes and relevant Muslim history, and compare what you read in normal such codes and in "do against others like you want others do against you". How much of what you find in Islam is justice and how much is injustice, how much is morally right and how much morally wrong? You also should do the same for Islam's/Muslims' treatment of non-Muslims, but skip it if you do not like horror stories - there are too many of them.

127 10/48a: "- - - promise - - -". As the Quran and all its errors are not from any god, from whom is this and other promises in the Quran? - and how much are they worth?

128 10/48b: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

129 10/49: "To every People a term is appointed (= predestined*): when their term is reached, not an hour can they cause delay, not (an hour) can they advance (it in anticipation)". Here we once more are back to one of the fundamental differences between the Bible and the Quran, between Yahweh and Allah. Allah predestines everything - absolutely everything - and he does so according to his unchangeable Plan which nothing and nobody can influence. Yahweh in comparison sometimes decides that some things are to happen - very, very far from everything, but some things - and then he sees to it that this really happen (but mainly man has free will to decide for himself). Also it sometimes is possible for humans to influence Yahweh's decisions - f.x. Moses made Yahweh change his mind. One of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, predestination had been at least similar and most likely identical in the two gods' "administration".

130 10/50a "- - - His (Allah's punishment - - -". Once more the old fact: Only possible if Allah exists, and in addition is a god, none of which is proved (but more or less disproved).

131 10/50b: "- - - Sinners - - -". See 2/21b above.

132 10/51: "And ye (skeptics*) wanted aforetime to hasten it (the punishment*) on!" As Muhammad was unable to prove anything at all of his central religious claims, some skeptics dared him to punish them, so that they could get a proof. Like always when it came to proving things, Muhammad only was able to deliver fast talk.

133 10/52a: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". See 2/21b above.

##134 10/52b: "Ye but get a recompense for what ye earned (from your deeds on Earth*)!" Knowing that the Quran is a made up book - by dark forces or human(s) - and knowing the Islamic history of violence and injustice, this is a thought provoking sentence if one thinks there somewhere really is a good and benevolent god. No good and benevolent god will accept liars/deceivers, thieves/robbers, suppressers, rapists, torturers, murderers, etc. (This actually is a difficult fact even if Allah all the same happens to exist - no good and benevolent god can accept that kind of behavior, and thus that kind of persons. But the dark forces could.)

135 10/53a: "By my (Muhammad's*) Lord (Allah*)!" Muhammad is swearing by Allah - most sentences in the Quran starting with "By" are oaths. Compare this to Jesus: ""Do not swear" (Matt. 5/34 - 37). A clear proof for that Jesus and Muhammad did not preach the same religion - and especially a clear proof when you know how often Allah/Muhammad swear in the Quran.

136 10/53b: "It is the very truth!" See 2/21b and 2/26 above.

137 10/54a: "- - - sinned - - - wrong - - -". See 2/21b above.

138 10/54b: "- - - judgment - - - with justice - - -". Take a look at the Quran's moral code, at the sharia laws, etc. How much is justice and how much injustice? - compare f.x. with rules in normal religions/cultures and with "do against others like you want other do against you".

139 10/55a: "Is it not (the case) that to Allah belongeth whatever is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth?" It is a claim, but no proved case, like normal for Muhammad - nothing central in the religion of Islam was ever proved, but only rests on the words of Muhammad - and that tells a lot when you remember what quality of a human Muhammad was, his moral and his reliability. In addition the Bible tells that all this belongs to Yahweh, not to Allah.

#140 10/55b: "Is it not (the case) that Allah's promise is assuredly true". Flatly no. On the contrary: For several reasons it is practically proved it is not true. Islam will have to produce strong proofs - not only loose claims any believer in any religion can make on behalf of her/his god(s), like is what the Quran and Islam is built on, but proofs.

Another point: As the Quran and all its errors are not from any god, who really gave the promises the name of Allah in the book? - and what are they worth?

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", "assuredly”, etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

141 10/55c: "Yet most of them (non-Muslims*) understand not". See 9/11d above.

142 10/56a: "It is He (Allah*) Who giveth life and Who taketh it - - -". One more of Muhammad's nearly innumerable loose and not proved claims. According to the Bible it is Yahweh who has made this, not Allah (both may be wrong according to science). (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat more often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - we may even mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on not proved claims (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explain away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "A not proved claim can be dismissed without a proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

And just to mention it: Allah cannot give life unless he exists and in addition is a god - to take life it is enough if he belongs to the dark forces (or sends a Muslim extremist). Allah also never has proved he has the power to create or recreate life (Yahweh has if the old books tell the truth).

143 10/56b: "It is He (Allah*) Who giveth life and Who taketh it, and to Him shall ye all (humans*) be brought back". Some more loose and easy claims any believer in any religion can do on behalf of his/her god(s) as long as they can evade requests for proofs - and like normal for Muhammad not proved. Besides according to the Bible tells the truth, this is Yahweh's domain, not Allah's - and if the old books tell the truth on this point, Yahweh at least brought some proofs for his existence and power.

144 10/57a: "- - - a healing (the Quran*) for the (diseases) in your hearts - - -". Not to believe in the Quran's teaching means you are sick. The Bible disagrees - especially if you instead believe in Yahweh. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat.)

###145 10/57b: "- - - the (disease) in your hearts - - -". It tells something about Muslims and Islam and their view of other people, that non-Muslims are classified as sick people, and in many other verses as bad people and also as people one should be careful to befriend.

146 10/57c: "- - - and for those who believe (Muslims*), a Guidance and a Mercy". Is a book full of mistakes, contradictions, etc., a reliable guidance? And as for mercy, please read the surahs from Medina, the Quran's moral and judicial codes, etc. - is the Quran and Islam a mercy even for Muslims? - and what about for non-Muslims? - and what if you compare it to Jesus' teaching?

147 10/58a: "'In the Bounty (here the Paradise) of Allah - - -". This does not exist unless Allah exists and in addition is a major something supernatural, white or black, none of which is proved.

148 10/58b: "'In the Bounty (here the Paradise) of Allah, and in his Mercy - in that let them (Muslims*) rejoice:' that is better than the (wealth) they hoard". The only possibility for this to be true, is that Allah exists and is a god.

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

#149 10/58c: "- - - mercy - - -". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, the unjust parts of the sharia laws, the Quran's code of conduct during/after raids and wars - how much real mercy do you find? - especially towards non-Muslims (it is easy to be merciful towards friends - where real mercy really manifests itself, is in the behavior towards opponents).

150 10/59a: "'See ye (Muslims*) what things Allah hath sent down to you for sustenance?" Well, the Bible tells this is done by Yahweh, not by Allah. (And science tells it was done by nature + the farmer or fisherman.) In addition: See 10/58a above.

151 10/59b: "Hath Allah indeed permitted you (people*) - - -". This is a serious question, because as the Quran and all its errors are not from any god, then who gave the permissions, the prohibitions, the orders, the moral code, the sharia laws, etc. in the book and thus in Islam?

152 10/59c: "- - - or do you (people*) invent (things (here likely other gods*)) to attribute to Allah?" At least when it comes to the followers of Yahweh, they do not join gods with Allah - they simply do not believe he exists (well, many are not better informed than they believe in Muhammad's never proved - and documented wrong - claim that Allah is the same god as Yahweh, but Allah in case was a very twisted and wrong image of Yahweh). And actually it is the same for other religions - there are few non-Muslim religions believing in Allah, so they do not "join other gods" with him, but have one or more gods INSTEAD OF Allah. Another fact is that if Allah does not exist, it is not possible to join anything with him, included other gods - - - and there nowhere was or is any proof or even clear indication for the existence of Allah - only Muhammad's words, and Muhammad was a man with a very doubtful moral and reliability.

But note Muhammad's technique: He pretends that and talks like Allah is a proved and accepted fact.

153 10/60a: "And what think those (non-Muslims*) who invent (lies) against Allah (believe in other gods)". This is no lie against Allah unless he exists and in addition is a major god - and is correctly described among all the errors in the Quran. And it is it is a big question who are inventing lies against Allah - the ones believing in another god - f.x. Yahweh - and who honestly believe that Allah do not exist, or at most that he is a sick and twisted replica of Yahweh? - or the ones who believe in Allah (it is quite a lie to tell all those tales if Allah does not exist or for other reasons is not a major god)?

154 10/60b: "- - - Allah is full of Bounty to mankind - - -". Not unless he exists. And not a big bounty unless he in addition is something supernatural, white or black. We may also remind you that "Allah's" bounty here on Earth, Muhammad and his Muslims to a large degree stole/looted from their victims - not a gift from Allah.

155 10/61a: "- - - We (Allah*) are witness - - -". Not unless he exists, and in this case also not unless he is something supernatural, white or black.

156 10/61b: "- - - a clear Record". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all predestines everything, need a record?

157 10/62: "- - -verily on the friends of Allah (= the Muslims*) there is no fear, nor shall they grieve - - -". This will entirely depend on two things: Is there a next life? And if there is, what will meet one there? As the Quran and all its errors and worse is not from any god, it is unlikely in the extreme that this book gives a correct picture of the perhaps afterlife. (To be honest, there is a somewhat better chance that the Bible is correct on this, as all the witnesses - included the early martyrs (and real martyrs, not just warriors killed in wars or raids, etc.) - to what happened around Jesus, may indicate that something supernatural was involved. Personally we do not believe so, but because of all the witnesses and real martyrs it is impossible to say definitely not.)

158 10/63: "- - - evil - - -". See 2/21b above.

159 10/64a: "- - - Glad Tidings - - -". What religious glad tidings can there be in a book so full of errors, contradictions, etc. that it is clear no god has been involved in its making or delivery?

###160 10/64b: "- - - no change can there be in the Words of Allah". This is one of the problems Muslims never debate if they can evade the question: If Allah’s predestination - his words - cannot be changed, what then is the use of prayers to him? - if nothing can be changed, prayers have no effect and are just a waste of time and effort. This also is one of the big differences between Yahweh and Allah: There is no doubt in the Bible that prayers can change things, included the god's decisions.

And how is it possible for Allah to forgive? - also that means changes to his Plan, and such changes are not possible, according to the Quran.

161 10/64c: "- - - the Words of Allah - - -". Do not exist unless Allah exists, and are of little consequence unless he in addition is something supernatural, good or bad.

By the way: As the Quran and all its mistakes are not from any god, from whom or what are all the words pretending to be from Allah, in the book? - and what are they worth?

162 10/65a: "- - - all power and honor belong to Allah - - -". One of the hundreds or more never proved loose claims in the Quran. Claims any believer in any religion can make on behalf of their gods - free of charge as long as requests for proofs can be evaded (like Muhammad evaded them). Besides: According to the Bible this belongs to Yahweh, not to Allah. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat.)

163 10/65b: "- - - it is He (Allah*)Who heareth and knoweth (all things)". Not correct if he was behind the Quran. And also see 10/36c above.

164 10/66a: "- - - to Allah belong all creatures, in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth". Once more these never proved claims from Muhammad - not possible unless Allah really exists and in addition is major god - the last of which f.x. the Bible indirectly, but very clearly tells he is not. (And as the Quran with all its errors, contradictions, etc. is not from any god, this also practically proves that Allah just is a made up god - Islam needs strong proofs to "kill" this fact. There are strong circumstantial and empirical proofs for that Allah does not exist. The only thing which is lacking, is mathematical strength proofs, but such ones are impossible for humans to find about a god - they have to be provided by the god himself, but Allah has provided nothing at all concerning valid proofs.)

165 10/66b: "They (non-Muslims*) follow nothing but fancy - - -". One of the ironic -unintended irony, but irony - points in the Quran if Allah just is fancy. And as the Quran is a made up book - by dark forces or by one or more humans, mentally ill or not - and as the only source for claims about Allah's existence is a man with a very doubtful reliability and morality, it is highly unlikely that the god Allah exist. And if Allah does not exist, Islam just is fancy.

Besides: According to the Bible belief in Yahweh is anything but fancy - but according to the same book Islam is.

166 10/66c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) do nothing but lie". No comment except that this tells a lot about Muhammad and the Quran, and not least about Muslims living according to the Quran, and their view on non-Muslims.

167 10/67a: "He (Allah*) is it that hath made the Night - - - and the Day - - -". According to the Bible this was made by Yahweh, not by Allah - and according to science it is made by nature.

168 10/67b: "Verily in this are Signs for those who listen (to His (Allah's*) Message)". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

169 10/68a: "'Allah hath begotten a son!' - - - No warrant have ye (Christians*) for (saying*) this". Muhammad and the Quran denied that Jesus was the son of Yahweh - Jesus many, many times said he was (in the Bible Jesus at least 89 times is called the son of Yahweh, and Yahweh at least 204 times is called the father of Jesus - many of these times by Jesus himself, and Jesus also according to the Quran was reliable and trustworthy). There definitely are warrants according to the Bible. One of the many absolute proofs: Something is very wrong in one of these two books.

170 10/68b: "His (Allah's*) are all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth". According to the Bible this belongs to Yahweh, not to Allah.

171 10/68c: "Say ye (non-Muslims*) about Allah what ye know not?" Perhaps it was the other way around - that they knew something was wrong with Muhammad's new religion? At least the ones knowing the Bible were aware of this, because Muhammad often quoted the Bible very wrongly.

Another and ironic point is that as there is no real knowledge about Allah, only claims, statements, and belief, Muslims even today say lots of things about Allah which they in reality know not. They may strongly believe - even so strongly that they honestly believe the belief is knowledge - but it only is belief, not knowledge. And belief too often is wrong. And in this case the belief is extra suspect, as it only is built on a book full of mistakes, contradictions, etc., told by a man of very doubtful morality, honesty, and reliability, but with a lot to gain from making people believe in his new religion. (As for knowledge also see 22/3a below).

172 10/69: "Those who invent a lie against Allah will never prosper". This is one of the very many never proved claims in the Quran. Islam should prove this and all the other loose claims. They also should make clear what effect it will have for Muslims, if the claims that Allah exists and is a major god are lies - this because it is highly unlikely that he exists, as the only source for the claims that he exists is a very unreliable one, and as so much is wrong in the Quran. And also because the effect for Muslims are so horrible if there is a next life, and especially if there really is a good and benevolent waiting at "the other side" - no good and benevolent and moral god will accept liars, thieves/robbers, rapists, suppressers, slave takers, hate mongers, murderers, etc. A brutal war god or the dark forces may accept such persons, but no good, benevolent, and moral god.

If Muslims and Islam disagree here, they will have to prove their claims. But prove, not only claim or state like Islam and its Muslims too often do, in spite of that they demand proofs from everyone who is skeptical to the Quran and its errors, contradictions, etc., and to the reliability and morality of its bringer (maker?) Muhammad.

173 10/70a: "To Us (Allah*) will be their (people's*) return - - -". A parallel to 10/23 above - - - if Allah exists and is a major god.

174 10/70b: "- - - then shall We (Allah*) make them (non-Muslims*) taste the severest Penalty - - -". Not possible unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, good or bad.

175 10/70c: "- - - blasphemies". It is not blasphemy to doubt Allah if no Allah exists - or if he exists, but is no god - there f.x is no blasphemy in mentioning that a devil sometimes behaves like a devil, or that he is no god. Neither his existence, nor his being a god is proved. (Actually the Bible indirectly, but most clearly tells he at least was/is no god. The same does the realities around the Quran and the realities around Allah.)

176 10/71a: "- - - Signs of Allah - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

177 10/71b: "- - - I (Noah*) put my trust in Allah". For one thing that is risky if Allah does not exists, not to mention if he is part of the dark forces, like f.x. parts of the moral code in the Quran may indicate. For another thing according to the Bible Noah's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

€€€178 10/71-73: The story of Noah is roughly like in the Bible, but only roughly, and also the details are very different. From where did Muhammad get this new variety (f.x. that his son drowned) and all the new details? Remember: As the Quran is too full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. to derive from a god, Muhammad did not get this information (?) from a god, like Muslims and Islam like to claim.

179 10/72a: "- - - no reward have I (here Noah*) asked of you - - -". This was one of Muhammad's slogans, and then it is good to have other prophets use the same expression, because it made Muhammad sound like a mainstream prophet(?) to his followers.

Another side of his claim is that it was not true - Muhammad demanded MUCH from his followers: Respect, honor, total power, and riches - mainly for bribes and some for women, but he himself also was well off when he died (f.x. estates in Medina, Fadang, and Khaybar - and each of his many wives had her own small house). This last fact, Muhammad's riches, Muslims often denies, but this is a clear Kitman (a lawful half-truth): They tell you quite correctly that what Muhammad left to his family was next to nothing. What they do not mention, was that he (verbally) had willed nearly everything he owned to Islam, and that therefore the caliph (Abu Bakr) took it over. Muhammad's daughter Fatima made so much fuss because she did not get the inheritance after her father, that this is a fact most Muslims knows, or at least should know - it is well known from Hadiths and from history books about Muhammad and about early Islam. All the same they tell such untrue stories to glorify Muhammad. But then truth is not the most central point in Islam.

But Jesus on the other hand really did not demand anything for himself from his followers.

180 10/72b: "- - - I (Noah*) have been commanded to be of those who submit to Allah in Islam". Noah like all prophets or claimed prophets become facsimiles of Muhammad in the Quran - an easy way for Muhammad to "prove" he was like the prophets of the old, and thus a normal prophet. You do not find the same twisting of the old stories from Jesus.

181 10/73a: "- - - (We (Allah*) delivered him (Noah*) - - -". According to the Bible it was Yahweh who did this - included all his 3 sons - not Allah (who on top drowned one of Noah's few - 3 - sons).

182 10/73b: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

183 10/74a: "Then after him (Noah*) We (Allah*) sent (many) messengers to their Peoples - - -". A parallel to Muhammad who claimed he was sent to his own people like he - not quite correctly - said all prophets were. But you will meet Muslims - and Muslim scholars - claiming that words like this prove (Muslims are very "free" with using such words) that all the other prophets only were for their own people, and only Muhammad was for the world. This is wrong. For one thing there are several points in even OT showing that Yahweh also accepted non-Israelites. For another several of the Biblical persons/prophets in OT lived and worked away from their own people. And for a third when it comes to NT Jesus f.x was very specific when he left his disciples: "- - - go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father (Yahweh*), the Son (Jesus*), and the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you" (Matt. 28/19-20).

A small extra comment: Muslims obey very far from everything of what Jesus commanded. Very far from.

184 10/74b: "- - - Clear Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

#185 10/74c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) would not believe what they had already rejected beforehand". We quote Muhammad Asad "The Message of the Quran" (translated from Swedish): "This is because of the instinctive reluctance by most people to change their preset minds and meanings - positive or negative ones". He forgot(?) to mention that this also goes for Muslims - and Muslims also should remember that few are so religiously indoctrinated as Muslims, and thus their reluctance to correct wrong beliefs are stronger in than most other persons'.

186 10/74d: "- - - transgressors". See 2/21b above.

187 10/75a: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

188 10/75b: "- - - a people of sin." One more ironic point - ironic because a number of things the Quran advices or even demands, are sin according to normal religions and moral codes. Also see 2/21b above.

€€€189 10/75-92: The story about Moses partly is similar to the one in the Bible, but parts are different, and also lots of details are different. From where did Muhammad get this variety of the story and all the new details?

190 10/76a: "- - - the Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

191 10/76b: "When the Truth came to them (Pharaoh Ramses II and his Egyptians*) from Us (Allah*) - - -". For one thing Allah could send Moses nothing unless he existed and in addition was something supernatural, white or black. For another according to the Bible Moses' god was Yahweh, not Allah.

192 10/77: "- - - the Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

193 10/78a: "Hast thou (Moses*) come to us to turn us away from the ways we found our fathers following - in order that thou and thy brother may have greatness in the land (Egypt*) ?". This is not from the Bible. And as Moses' single demand was "Let my people go", this variety of the story also is highly illogical.

It is illogical for one more reason: Moses' people were poor slaves - hardly armed at all. Pharaoh Ramses II was perhaps the mightiest pharaoh ever - and his successor not a nothing he, too (science says that if Exodus happened, it did so around 1235 BC under Ramses II, but there is a slight possibility it happened under his successor Merneptah (1213 - 1203 BC), as there is found a stele from his reign containing the name "Israel"). There is no chance such a mighty pharaoh would have fears like the above mentioned.

But in the Quran the story became an ok facsimile of Muhammad's, and thus a "confirmation" of that Muhammad was a real prophet.

194 10/78b: "- in order that thou (Moses*) and thy brother may have greatness in the land (Egypt*) - - -". In the Bible there was nothing like this, and it also is a mystery how Muhammad - or Ramses II - could get the idea that Moses and Aaron could become a leader in Egypt by leading their Israelites out of Egypt.

195 10/81: "- - - Allah prospereth not the work of those who make mischief". A sentence for Muslims to remember, as there are few religion that for religious reasons have made as much mischief in the world and for humans, included for Muslims, as Islam. (Also Christians made much mischief at times, but that was for riches and power - sometimes with religion as an excuse, the last one perhaps especially among the Spaniards. In Islam the religion and the Quran's demands were at least part of the reason for conquest.)

And just to repeat it: According to the Bible, Moses' god was Yahweh, not Allah.

###196 10/82a: "And Allah by His Words doth prove and establish His Truth". Just one question: How? How have Allah's claimed words (they are not even proved to be from a god) proved what Muhammad claimed was the truth? There exists not one valid proof neither for Allah, nor for the truth of his claimed words, the Quran (on the contrary; as you see in http://www.1000mistakes.com and many other places, the Quran very far from always tells the truth.

Besides, as very many of Allah's claimed words in the Quran are wrong, this claim is nonsense.

And not to forget: As the Quran and all its mistakes and worse (the use of invalid logic and the use of lies) are not from any god, then from whom are really what is claimed to be "Allah's Words"? - and how much are they worth?

197 10/82b: "- - - His (Allah's*) Words - - -". Does not exist unless Allah exists, and are of little consequence unless he in addition is something supernatural, white or black.

198 10/82c: "- - - Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

199 10/82d: "- - - Sinners - - -". See 2/21b above.

200 10/84a: "But none believed in Moses except some children of his People - - -". According to the Bible also lots of adult Israelis believed him (2. Mos. 4/30-31).

201 10/84b: "- - - believe in Allah - - -". According to the Bible, Moses' god was Yahweh, not Allah. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

As a "brother" of al-Takiyya and Kitman, etc., we should also mention the tradition for "Hilah": A "device to stop, hinder, or trick - - -. Stratagem to avoid or circumvent legal principles or rigid constructs. - - - utilized - - - to solve contradictions between (political powers, cultural choices, etc*) and Quranic principles". (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). In plain words: ways/tricks of seemingly or formally being honest or correct, while in reality being dishonest or incorrect. It seems that this aspect of "the religion of truth" was first campaigned of the Hanifi law school, but later utilized also by the other 3 Muslim law schools. "Hilah" is dishonesty in disguise. True honesty is not always central in Islam and among Islam's religious and moral forefront.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them. The names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?)

202 10/85: "In Allah we (the Israelites*) do put our trust". To tell that this is not from the Bible is not necessary.

203 10/86: "- - - Thy (here meant to mean Allah's*) Mercy - - -". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, the unjust parts of the sharia laws, the Quran's code of conduct during/after raids and wars - how much real mercy do you find? - especially towards non-Muslims (it is easy to be merciful towards friends - where real mercy really manifests itself, is in the behavior towards opponents).

204 10/87a: "- - - inspired - - -". Muhammad claimed he got most of his claimed messages from Allah by Inspiration - a very convenient way of getting messages, as one can be inspired by many things - and as nobody can check if it really is inspiration - or if some is cold calculation. The prophets in the Bible got their messages by direct contact, by visions, or by dreams (4. Mos. 12/6-8), and the word "inspiration" is never used in the entire Bible in such a connection.

205 10/87b: "Provide dwellings for your people in Egypt - - -". What is this?? According even to Islam the Israelites had stayed in Egypt for long times - according to the Bible 430 years - and they had dwellings. What Moses and his Israelites wanted, was to leave Egypt at once, and you do not start building new dwellings when you plan to and want to emigrate as fast as possible - and especially not when you already have dwellings.

There are many places - like here - where you see that Muhammad did not know the Bible.

But we may add that according to the Quran it seems it took Moses years to get the Israelites out of Egypt, whereas according to the Bible it took weeks or some months.

206 10/87c: "- - - Glad Tidings - - -". Remember here that according to Muhammad and the Quran Moses was a good Muslim - not just what the Bible tells - and thus that his "glad tidings" here is meant to be a message like the one you find in the Quran. Please read the Quran, and especially the surahs from Medina, and do so with your brain and your knowledge engaged - think, not just accept the never proved claims. How much of glad tidings do you in reality find? You may also compare it to the teachings of Jesus, if you find such a comparison possible.

207 10/88a: "Moses prayed (here the intended meaning is: to Allah*) - - -". But see 4/77a above.

208 10/88b:"- - - they (Pharaoh and his men*) mislead (men) from Thy (Allah's*) Path". One thing is that according to Muhammad and the Quran Moses and his Israelites were good Muslims. More to the point just here is that according to the Bible there was no religious problem between Moses/the Israelites and Pharaoh/the Egyptians. In the Bible the point only was: "Let my people go". As you perhaps have noticed Muhammad had a strong tendency to mix religion and f.x. politics. And a strong tendency to model his "heroes" and their lives and problems after his own life and problems - it made him look more like the picture he painted of the old prophets and others, and thus it made it easier for him to claim he was a prophet like them.

209 10/88c: "- - - Thy (here meant to mean Allah's*) Path - - -". This does not exists unless Allah exists and is something supernatural - and where it leads will in case depend on whether he belongs to the dark forces or not - parts of the Quran and parts of f.x. its moral code fits the dark forces better than the white ones.

210 10/89: "Allah said: 'Accepted is your prayer (O Moses and Aaron)!" Aside from the fact that Allah can accept nothing unless he exists and in this case belong to either the white or the dark forces, and aside from the fact that according to the Bible Moses' god was Yahweh, not Allah: See 4/77a above and 11/87a below.

211 10/90a: "At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he (the Pharaoh*) said - - -". This is one of the problems for Islam today: It is very clear that Ramses II (the pharaoh most scientists say is the relevant one) did not drown, and the same for his successor Merneptah (there is a chance for that Exodus happened this late - if it happened). This claim thus is wrong. Also according to the Bible the pharaoh drowned, but the Bible is written by humans, and humans may make mistakes - they f.x. may have mixed the pharaoh with one of his generals or in the case of Ramses II, one of his 67(?) sons.

212 10/90b: "- - - I (the pharaoh*) am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam)." Pharaoh Ramses II nearly 2ooo years before Muhammad became a Muslim? Remember here that neither science, nor Islam has found a single proved trace of a religion like Islam anywhere in the world, any time in history, older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his religion. For a comparison one has proofs for the existence of the Israelites at least as far back as before 1200 BC (the stele with the name Israel mentioned, from during the reign of Pharaoh Merneptah, 1213 - 1203 BC), but for Islam as mentioned absolutely nothing before 610 AD. This in spite of that the Israelites only was a small nation, whereas Islam according to Muhammad was a worldwide religion from Adam on - taught to all people through all times by at least 124ooo prophets (the number is from Hadiths). Actually it is a historical fact that Ramses II (and Merneptah) was a polytheist.

Believe the quoted sentence if you are able to.

213 10/91-92: "(It was said to him (Ramses II as he was drowning - according to the Quran*)): 'Ah now! - but a little while before, wast thou in rebellion! - - - This day shall We (Allah*) save thee in the body - - -". This indicates that Allah saved Ramses II - "save thee in the body" = "save thee bodily". But as the Quran other places clearly states that Ramses II drowned (he never did according to history), this meaning is not acceptable to Islam. Instead they tend to explain that this sentence meant Allah promised Ramses that he should be embalmed. Believe this explanation if you are able to - especially as it is a historical fact that neither Ramses nor Merneptah drowned (a main reason why Islam wants Exodus to have happened earlier under less known pharaohs who may be may have drowned).

214 10/92: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs!" See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

215 10/93: "Verily Allah will judge between them (the Jews*) - - - on the Day of Judgment". According to the Bible it is Yahweh who will rule that day, not Allah.

216 10/94a: "- - - what We (Allah*) hath revealed (the Quran*) - - -". Is the Quran revealed? - and as the quality of the book proves it is from no god: In case from whom? - dark forces? - a mentally sick brain? - one or more cold human brains? Those are the only 3 alternatives.

217 10/94b: "- - - ask those who have been reading the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". This was in 621 AD, and before Muhammad understood that the Bible's texts were much different from the legends, etc. he believed were Biblical texts - he thought they would tell he was right. Muslims today tend to explain away this sentence with that he referred to clear foretelling about himself in the Bible - but there exists no clear foretelling about him there, and also no hidden one (and this includes their star claim 5. Mos. 18/15 and 18/18 - the brother of an Israelite/Jew was and is another Israelite/Jew, not an Arab and the other way around, a fact which is made ever so clear many places both in the Bible - some 100 places in OT alone - and 30 places in the Quran (but anybody reading 5. Mos. 18/15 or 18/18, also should read 5. Mos. 17/15 and 5. Mos. 20/8 and have documented what Moses in his speach meant with "your (the Jews'*) own brothers")).

But there is one more point here concerning Muhammad in the Bible: The word used in the Arab original, "maktub", is stronger than just "written". Verse 7/157 in reality states that Muhammad is clearly mentioned in the Torah (the 5 "Books of Moses") and in the Gospels. This is obviously wrong - not even the strongest believer in Islam can claim that Muhammad is clearly mentioned any of those two places (that is why they have to cherry-pick and claim wrong meanings of the texts to be able to find him). Thus no matter if Muhammad really was hidden in 5. Mos. 18/15 and 18/18 or other places, the Quran all the same had been wrong, because Muhammad definitely is not clearly mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

But Islam HAS to find Muhammad in the Bible, because the Quran says he is mentioned there, and by cherry-picking words and twisting the meaning of those words, it is unbelieveable what is possible to "find".

218 10/94c: "- - - the Truth (the Quran*) hath indeed come to thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) from thy Lord (Allah*) - - -". No god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran. One may wonder from where it came.

219 10/94d: "- - - the Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

220 10/95: "- - - the Signs of Allah - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

221 10/96: "- - - the Word of thy (Muhammad's*) Lord Allah - - -". This does not exist unless Allah exists, and is of little consequence unless he in addition is something supernatural, good or bad.

Besides: What really were the words of Allah? - as the Quran and its innumerable errors are not from any god, nobody knows the words of Allah - - - if any exists.

222 10/97a: "- - - Sign (of Allah*) - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

223 10/97b: "- - - We (Allah*) removed - - -". Allah could do nothing unless he existed, and very little unless he in addition was something supernatural, good or bad.

224 10/98: "Why was there not a single township - - - which believed - - -?" Perhaps because Allah, like clearly stated several places in the Quran, had predestined their future according to his Plan which nobody and nothing can change? (One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.)

225 10/99a: "If it had been thy (Muhammad's/Muslims'*) Lord's (Allah's*) will - - -". One of many places Muhammad boast about all the things Allah can do if he only willed. But by an unlucky coincidence he never willed. If the old books tell the truth, Yahweh and Jesus proved at least some of what they told, but Allah and Muhammad never anything - only lose words and as lose claims (though big and strong some of them).

226 10/99b: "If it had been thy (Muslims’*) Lord's (Allah's*) Will, they (humanity*) would all believe - - -". Here is one of the differences between Yahweh and Allah: Under Yahweh man mostly has free will, whereas under Allah, Allah decides everything. One question here: Allah knows the horrible fate of bad people. If it is true that he is a good an benevolent god, how then is it possible for him to predestine that many - the majority, as the majority are not Muslims - shall think and talk and believe and behave so badly that they end in Hell?! Under Yahweh where you end up in the claimed next life, depends on yourself, and then judgment is understandable and in a way acceptable. Under Allah you are a puppet-on-a-string for Allah - he predestines everything you think and say and do. How can he then reward and punish people?! Where is the moral explanation?!

#227 10/99c: "Wilt thou (Muhammad/Muslims*) then compel mankind, against their will, to believe!" Irony. This was said in 621 AD, while Muhammad had little power and preached his relatively peaceful religion in Mecca. As soon as he got enough power after his flight to Medina in 622 AD, he and his successors started to force skeptics to accept Islam. Most of Arabia - and later large parts of what is now the Muslim area - was made Muslim by the demand: "Become Muslims or fight us and die". The verse 2/256 from shortly after the arrival in Mecca - before Muhammad had gained real power and while he still hoped to make the Jews accept his new religion - was fast abrogated and forgotten. "Let there be no Compulsion in religion" did not fit Muhammad and his march towards total dictatorship for too many months. But it is good propaganda to quote it.

#228 10/100: "No soul can believe, except by the Will of Allah - - -". This is a strong one. A parallel to 10/99a above, but stronger: Non-Muslims cannot become Muslims unless Allah decides so, and all the same he punishes them for not being Muslims and send them to Hell. What a "good and benevolent" god!! Compare the teaching of Jesus and the teaching of Muhammad here - what is your reaction?

229 10/101: "- - - Signs - - - Warners - - -". As for signs see 4/140b above and 36/33 below. As for warners, there only has been one single proved "warner" who claimed he was from Allah; Muhammad.

230 10/103a: "In the end We (Allah*) deliver (into Paradise*) Our messengers and those who believe (Muslims*) - - -". Impossible unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which is proved. Besides: According to the Bible it is the followers of Yahweh who will end in Paradise.

231 10/103b: "- - - Our (Allah's*) messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c and the other comments under 7/157 above.

232 10/104a: "- - - Allah - who will take your souls (at death) - - -". Not possible unless Allah exists and in addition is something supernatural, white or black, none of which is proved. According to the Bible Allah does not even exist - except perhaps as a false god (this is said indirectly, but very clearly in the Bible, and the circumstances around the Quran and around Allah say the same) - and that the one waiting you after death, is Yahweh, not Allah.

233 10/104b: "- - - I (Muhammad*) am commanded to be (in the ranks) of the Believers". Commanded by whom? As no book of a quality like the Quran is from any god: Commanded by whom? There only are 3 alternatives:

1): The dark forces. (A number of immoral and inhuman points in the Quran may indicate this.)

2): A mental illness (like TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy). Modern medical science suspects this.

3): One or more cold human brain(s) - f.x. Muhammad's. All the mistakes in the Quran believed to be correct science at the time of Muhammad, plus f.x. the fact that all material in the book is from Arabia and neighboring area, strongly indicates this - perhaps combined with alternative 2. And also all the times Allah(?) helped Muhammad with f.x. family problems, indicates the same.

For a comparison: As for the Bible there is a chance for that there is a god behind it - f.x. all the witnesses to what happened to and around Jesus are difficult to explain away. The same goes for the early martyrs - they had reliable information, and chose death instead of denying their knowledge. And also his disciples and f.x. Paul and Luke could not twist or make up too much about him later, because too many knew what had really happened, so that the only thing they would gain from too much fantasy, would be to lose credibility. Also the first martyrs (and real martyrs, not like in Islam) - people who had firsthand knowledge to what really had happened - are difficult to explain away.

234 10/105a: "- - - Religion with true piety - - -". The funny fact is that true piety you find in all religions. It is nothing special for Islam, and it proves nothing about Islam.

235 10/105b: "- - - never in anywise be among the Unbelievers (non-Muslims*)". The Bible recommends being among the followers of Yahweh.

236 10/106a: "Nor call on any, other than Allah - - -". To call on Allah is meaningless unless he exists and in addition is a major god. Another thing is that the Bible says the only god to call on, is Yahweh, and it also indirectly, but very clearly tells that Allah is no god - the same as the realities around the Quran, Muhammad, and Allah prove (there at least are circumstantial and empirical proofs for this far beyond all reasonable and most unreasonable doubts).

237 10/106b: "- - - such (made up gods*) will neither profit thee (any person*) nor hurt thee - - -". There never was a proved case of Allah neither hurting nor helping anyone - never one such case. Another indication for that Allah is a made up god?

238 10/106c: "- - - those who do wrong". See 2/21b above.

239 10/107a: This verse says that whatever Allah does, no-one can change. But according to the Bible none can withstand Yahweh.

240 10/107b: "And He (Allah*) is the - Most Merciful". Please read the Surahs from Medina - how merciful is Allah in reality and especially towards non-believers in this life? - not in glorifying words, but in reality? Besides: Compare Jesus' teaching with Muhammad's teaching - which of the two gods is by far the most merciful?

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and this is one of them, the names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

241 10/108a: "Now truth (Muhammad's teaching/the Quran*) hath reached you (people/Muslims*) from your Lord (Allah*)!" No omniscient god ever was involved in a teaching and a book of a quality like the Quran.

242 10/108b: "- - - truth - - -".See 2/26 above.

243 10/108c: "- - - guidance". It is not possible to give true guidance from a guidebook full of errors, contradictions, etc.

244 10/108d: "- - - I (Muhammad*) am not (set) over you (people*) to arrange your affairs". This was in Mecca in 621 AD. Muhammad changed his mind quite a lot about this when he gained power in Medina a short time later.

245 10/109a: "- - - the inspiration sent unto thee (Muhammad*) - - -". Was it really sent? - and in case by whom? - or by what?

246 10/109b: "- - - inspiration - - -". Muhammad claimed he got most of his information from his claimed god by inspiration - a very convenient way, as one can be inspired by many things - and as nobody can check if it really is inspiration - or if some is cold calculation. For a comparison: According to the Bible Yahweh only used visions, dreams, or direct contact (4. Mos. 12/4) - the word "inspiration" is not mentioned in such a connection one single time in the entire Bible. One more clear indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

247 10/109c: "- - - be patient and constant, till Allah do decide". Allah seldom told Muhammad how to solve a problem - or how to even behave so that no problem arose - on beforehand. Mostly (not to say always) Allah was unable to do better than to come afterwards and tell that Muhammad was right and strengthen Muhammad's claim or words. Some god.

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This work was uploaded with assistance from M. A. Khan, the author of Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism and Slavery, and the editor of islam-watch.org website.