Bible versus Quran: 1000+ Differences & Contradictions

 

The Quran: Its Divergence from the Bible

Surah 9 - At-Tawbah (The Repenter)

631 AD

001 9/1-5: This is a declaration of war to some tribes Muhammad had heard were not reliable - as far as we have been able to find out, he did not check if it was true, but acted on the rumor. Try to find a declaration of armed war from Jesus! A most solid proof for that Jesus and Muhammad did not serve the same god and did not belong to the same religion - especially if you add Jesus' words: "Love your enemies - - -". (Matt. 5/44)

Yahweh and Allah not the same god, Jesus and Muhammad definitely not in the same religion or f.x. moral code - and thus not in the same line of prophets.

002 9/1a: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*)- - -". See 5/33b above.

003 9/1b: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and for that case the other comments under 7/157.

004 9/2: "- - - Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him". Not possible unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved (and if the Bible is correct, there only is one god: Yahweh).

005 9/3a: "- - - Allah and His Messenger - - -". See 5/33b above. Also see 7/157a-c above - and for that case the other comments under 7/157.

006 9/3b: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c - and for that case the other comments under 7/157 above.

007 9/3c: "- - - the Great Pilgrimage - - -". This means the pilgrimage - Hajj - to Kabah in Mecca once a year. In the Quran this is one of the most central acts in all the religion - one of the 5 pillars of Islam. In the Bible it is never mentioned during the some 2ooo years the Bible covers from Abraham and up - much longer if you start with Adam or with Noah, and remember here that according to Islam Kabah originally was built by Adam (!), rebuilt by Noah, and then once more by Abraham, so that according to the Quran it has always existed - - - but never even hinted to in the Bible. If Yahweh had been the same god as Allah, the value of Hajj to Mecca had been roughly similar in the two books -and Yahweh's prophets, included Abraham, Moses, Jesus and all, and had wanted to go there at least on pilgrimage. The fact is: In the Quran one of the 5 most essential points in all the religion - one of its 5 "pillars". In the Bible it is so totally without interest or value that it is not even hinted at.

One of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

008 9/4a: "- - - Allah loveth the righteous". Not unless he exists - and unless he in addition is a god, his claimed love does not have too much consequence. Though what consequences may it have if he belongs to the dark forces?

009 9/4b: "- - - righteous - - -". See 2/21b above.

010 9/4c: "- - - ye (non-Muslims*) cannot frustrate Allah". This only may - may be true if Allah exists and is something powerful, white or black.

But according to the Bible Yahweh is so powerful that he can frustrate anyone.

011 9/4d: "And proclaim a grievous penalty on those who reject Faith (Islam*)". A proclamation means nothing unless there is power behind.

#####012 9/5a: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight them (non-Muslims*) and slay the Pagans wherever ye (Muslims*) find them, and size them, beleaguer them, and lay in wait for them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." This is the infamous "Verse of the Sword". If an extra proof was needed for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, or for that Jesus and Muhammad did not serve the same god or belong to the same - or even a basically similar - religion. The never documented (normal for Muhammad and for Islam and its Muslims) claim that Jesus and Muhammad belonged to the same line of prophets - meaning they were representatives of the same religion and the same god - we do not even bother to mention here, as it takes naivety and lack of knowledge beyond imbecility to be able to believe in that claim; the two and also their teachings were fundamentally too different.

Note the expression "- - - in every strategy (of war)". Nothing is too base, too inhuman, too immoral - Muslims can and shall use it if it can/could forward Islam - and its leader. 

Note the "in every stratagem (of war)" - if/when Iran gets atomic weapons, they will use them if they feel strong enough - which will take much time - or if they feel they are in a desperate situation - which may happen much earlier. And definitely they will use it for political extortion, etc.

"The Religion of Peace"? No comments necessary.

PS: Jesus said: "Love your enemies" (Matt. 5/44).

013 9/5b: "- - - Allah is - - - Most Merciful". Study the Quran's ethical, moral, and judicial codes, and its rules for how to treat victims and other non-Muslims. Allah is not only far from the most merciful, he hardly is merciful at all - gods of war seldom are. Yahweh, especially as you meet him in NT, by far is more merciful than Allah - and Jesus by very far more merciful than Muhammad.

When there is a difference between glorious words and deeds and reality, we always believe in the deeds and the reality.

014 9/6a: "- - - the Word of Allah (the Quran*) - - -". As the Quran with all its mistakes is not from any god, then whose words are they? There only are 3 alternatives:

1): The dark forces. (A number of immoral and inhuman points in the Quran may indicate this.)

2): A mental illness (like TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy). Modern medical science suspects this.

3): One or more cold human brain(s) - f.x. Muhammad's. All the mistakes in the Quran believed to be correct science at the time of Muhammad, plus f.x. the fact that all material in the book is from Arabia and neighboring area, strongly indicates this - perhaps combined with alternative 2. And also all the times Allah(?) helped Muhammad with f.x. family problems, indicates the same. (There may also be a combination of points 2 and 3.)

For a comparison: As for the Bible there is a chance for that there is a god behind it - f.x. all the witnesses to what happened to and around Jesus are difficult to explain away. The same goes for the early martyrs - they had reliable information, and chose death instead of denying their knowledge. And also his disciples and f.x. Paul and Luke could not twist or make up too much about him later, because too many knew what had really happened, so that the only thing they would gain from too much fantasy, would be to lose credibility. Also the first martyrs - people who had firsthand knowledge to what really had happened - are difficult to explain away.

015 9/6b: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) are men (like so often in the Quran the women does not count*) without knowledge". In the Bible knowledge more or less is knowledge. In the Quran it mainly means knowledge relevant to Islam - all other knowledge for long times was called "foreign knowledge", and opposed or even prohibited. Also see 22/3a below.

016 9/7a: "- - - Allah and His Messenger - - -". See 5/33b above. Also see 7/157a-c above - and for that case the other comments under 7/157.

017 9/7b: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c - and for that case the other comments under 7/157 above.

#018 9/7c: "- - - the Sacred Mosque - - -". The Kabah Mosque in Mecca is the most holy place on the entire Earth according to the Quran. It is not even indicated, not to say mentioned, in the Bible - totally non-interesting and without any religious value - f.x. not even one of the old Israeli prophets - included Abraham, Moses, and Jesus - ever mentioned it or even whispered a wish for going there on pilgrimage or for any other reason. A clear parallel to 9/3c, and if possible an even stronger proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 2/191c above and 48/27d below and not least 22/26a below. And see 2/125e in http://www.1000mistakes.com.

019 9/7d: "- - - Allah doth love the righteous". Not unless he exists - and unless he in addition is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved, his claimed love does not have too much consequence.

020 9/7e: "- - - righteous". See 2/21b above.

#021 9/8: "With (fair words from) their (non-Muslims'*) mouths they entice you (Muslims/Muhammad*) - - -". Interesting words from the only major religion with acceptance for and rules for al-Taqiyya (lawful lies), Kitman (lawful half-truths*), acceptance of cheating and betrayal, and acceptance and rules for breaking of words/promises/oaths (f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

022 9/9a: "The Signs of Allah - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

023 9/9b: "The Signs of Allah have they (non-Muslims*) sold for a miserable price - - -". One of Muhammad's claimed explanations for why many did not believe in him, was that they wanted a good life on Earth instead of in Heaven - "they had sold the next life for good times in this one". An explanation which sounded - and sounds - much better than the plain reality: Too many already at that time saw that things were very wrong in Muhammad's new religion.

Besides Muhammad never explained how being outside a religion permitting dishonesty, stealing/looting, extortion, suppression, etc. could give a richer life here on Earth, than being inside such a religion and culture.

024 9/9c: "- - - His (Allah's*) Way - - -". This way does not exist unless Allah exists, and it does not lead to Heaven unless Allah i addition is a god (and not f.x. a dressed up Iblis/the Devil, like parts of the Quran may indicate - Muhammad would not have a chance to see the difference between Gabriel and a dressed up Iblis), and it does not lead to any paradise unless Allah is a great enough god to have a paradise.

025 9/9d: "- - - evil - - -". See 2/21b above.

026 9/10: "It is they (non-Muslims*) who have transgressed all bounds". Two things are normal for leaders of fringe sects (like Islam was at that time): To severe the connections between their followers and "the others", and to create a picture of "the others" like enemies and inferior humans. This sentence serves both goals. In addition: According to the Bible at least the followers of Yahweh have not transgressed anything at all - but see 2/21b above.

027 9/11a: "- - - regular prayers - - -". See 4/77a above.

028 9/11b: "- - - regular charity - - -". See 4/77b above.

029 9/11c: "- - - Signs - - -". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

030 9/11d: "- - - those who understand". Who are understanding? The ones believing Muhammad? The ones instead believing f.x. in Yahweh? The ones who were/are able to understand that something like the Quran with all its mistakes, contradictions, etc. impossibly could come from a god? The ones able to understand what all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran means? The ones who in addition were/are able to see that a god is a good and convenient platform of power for many a self proclaimed prophet.? Also see 16/67c below.

031 9/12a: "But if they (opponents/non-Muslims*) violate their oaths after their covenant - - -". This verse is quite ironic when you remember Muhammad's own respect for oaths - see f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, and 66/2a. This even more so when you know that oaths - and honesty in general - are much more respected in f.x. the Bible and by Jesus, than in the Quran and by Muhammad. It is difficult to understand why Muslims do not see this. See f.x. the Quran's respect for oaths in f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, and 66/2a and compare it to Jesus' words in f.x. Matt. 5/33-37 (in short: Do not swear at all, but if you all the same do, honor your oath no matter what). Not the same god, not the same religion, by far not the same moral code - and Jesus and Muhammad far from similar prophets, very far.

Jesus said: "Love your enemies" (Matt. 5/44).

######032 9/12b: "- - - fight ye (Muslims*) the chiefs of Unfaith - - -". A parallel to 9/5a above.

Jesus said: "Love your enemies" (Matt. 5/44).

Try to find an order like this from Jesus!!

033 9/12c: "- - - for their (non-Muslims*) oaths are nothing to them - - -". As ironic as 9/12a above - and 9/10 above. See Muhammad's respect for own oaths in f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a. and 66/2a.

034 9/13a: "Will ye (Muslims*) not fight people who violated their oaths - - -". Try to find anywhere in NT where Jesus says something like this!! Yet another strong proof for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion, not serving the same god /and thus that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god) - and not in the same line of prophets. Also see 9/12a above.

Jesus said: "Love your enemies" (Matt. 5/44).

On the background of Muhammad's and the Quran's respect for oaths - f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a - this sentence also is hypocrisy.

035 9/13b: "Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A similar sentence from Jesus had been: "Will ye not fight people who want to kill me - - -". You do not find such a sentence in the entire NT. Also see 9/12a above.

036 9/13c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c and the other comments under 7/157 above.

037 9/13d: "Nay, it is Allah Whom ye (Muslims*) should more justly fear - - -". Why do so when the reality behind the Quran and also the real fact that Allah never in any way or any place or any time has manifested himself (except in the mouth of Muhammad), in practice prove that he does not exist, or at least is no major god?

If this is the case - that Allah just is a made up pagan god - this means that he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by the parents, Muslim clergy, Islamic compulsion, and the disproved claim that the Quran is from a god and tells the truth and only the truth.

038 9/14a: "Fight them (non-Muslims*) - - -". A parallel to 9/5a above. But why does an omnipotent god need mere humans to fight for him? - There is no logic in that a claimed good and benevolent god who just can say "Be gone" and his enemies are dead, shall send his followers into misery and death and invalidity.

On the other hand: If it was Muhammad who wanted warriors for riches (at least for bribes and women) and power, then suddenly the picture is logical. Also see 9/14b just below.

039 9/14b: "Fight them (non-Muslims*), and Allah will punish them by your (Muslims'*) hands - - -". A very thought provoking claim: Why does an omniscient god have to let his followers punish, instead of doing so himself? If he did it himself, any omnipotent god could punish in ways the victims understood were from someone supernatural. Letting the Muslims do it, mainly made the surroundings understand that Muslims were dangerous and bad people, craving for power and riches and forcing their never proved religion on others. Also see 9/14a just above.

Jesus said: "Love your enemies" (Matt. 5/44).

Not least: Try to find orders like this from Jesus! Yahweh and Allah definitely not the same god, Jesus and Muhammad were definitely to at least the third power neither serving the same god nor belonging to the same religion - and consequently not belonging to the same line of prophets (if Muhammad really was a prophet).

040 9/15a: "For Allah will turn (in mercy) - - -". A parallel to 8/70d and 9/5b above.

041 9/15b: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise". Not if he was involved in the delivery of a book of a quality like the Quran with all its mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic - resulting in wrong conclusions - clumsy explanations or statements (according to Muslims who have to "explain" they mean something else, in order to "explain" away mistakes and difficult points), etc.

And just to mention it: According to the Bible only Yahweh is all-knowing and all-wise.

042 9/16a: "Or think ye (Muslims*) that ye shall be abandoned (by Allah*) - - -". Allah cannot even abandon anybody unless he exists.

043 9/16b: "- - - as though Allah did not know (and appreciate*) those among you (Muslims*) who strive with might and main (= take part in warfare for Muhammad/Allah(?)*) - - -". Once more this incitement to and glorification of war. You do not find it in the Bible, and definitely not in NT, you hardly find it in other normal, big religions - - - but you find plenty of it in the claimed "religion of peace.

#044 9/16c: "- - - take none for friends and protectors except Allah, His Messenger (Muhammad*) and the (community of) Believers (Muslims*) - - -". In a way this morally and ethically is even worse than the incitements and glorifications of armed fighting. It also makes it easy to understand why Muslims are reluctant to being integrated in other communities or cultures. Islam and its followers are the one of the big religions which is most difficult to co-operate with for others - Muslims sometimes tell the reason is that the others hate Muslims. (If this is untrue - is then the claim a way for Muslims to flee from the real reasons? If it is true - are there reasonable reasons for that others if not hate, then dislike the Islamic culture and/or its words and deeds?)

Also see 7/157a-c above - and for that case the other comments under 7/157.

Just to mention it: According to the Bible f.x. Yahweh and Jesus are valuable friends.

045 9/16d: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and for that case also the other comments under 7/157.

046 9/16e: "But Allah is well acquainted with (all) that ye (Muslims*) do". A parallel - a little weaker - to 9/16a above.

047 9/17: "- - - those who join gods with Allah". At least when it comes to the followers of Yahweh, they do not join gods with Allah - they simply do not believe he exists (well, many are not better informed than they believe in Muhammad's never proved - and documented wrong - claim that Allah is the same god as Yahweh, but Allah in case was a very twisted and wrong image of Yahweh). And actually it is the same for other religions - there are few non-Muslim religions believing in Allah, so they do not "join other gods" with him, but have one or more gods INSTEAD OF Allah. Another fact is that if Allah does not exist, it is not possible to join anything with him, included other gods - - - and there nowhere was or is any proof or even clear indication for the existence of Allah - only Muhammad's words, and the real Muhammad was a man with a very doubtful moral and reliability.

048 9/18a: "- - - regular prayers - - -". See 4/77a above.

049 9/18b: "- - - regular charity - - -". See 4/77b above.

050 9/18c: "- - - fear none (at all) except Allah - - -". Why do so when the reality behind the Quran and also the real fact that Allah never in any way or any place or any time has manifested himself, in practice prove that he does not exist, or at least is no major god?

If this is the case - that Allah just is a made up and/or pagan god - this means that he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by the parents, Muslim clergy, Islamic compulsion, and the disproved claim that the Quran is from a god and tells the truth and only the truth.

051 9/18d: "- - - true guidance". True guidance is not possible if one bases the claimed guidance on a guidebook full of errors, etc. Not to mention that it is not possible to give true religious guidance by using a guidebook so full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. that no god has been involved in the making or delivery of it.

052 9/19a: "- - - the Sacred Mosque - - -". See 9/7c above.

053 9/19b: "Do ye (Muslims*) make the giving of drink to pilgrims, or the maintenance of the Sacred Mosque (Kabah in Mecca*), equal to - - - those who - - - strive with might and main (= fight battles*) in the cause of Allah? - - - they are not comparable in the sight of Allah - - -". The glorification of and incitement to war - and war for the god and for riches and power - are two of the many absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, for that their religions never were the same - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were worlds apart on the basic points both on moral and on religion. Also see 2/191c above and 48/27d below and not least 22/26a below. And see 2/125e in http://www.1000mistakes.com.

054 9/19c: "- - - strive with might and main - - -". This expression in the Quran means to take part in armed raids and wars when Muhammad so ordered. There is nothing similar from Jesus. Another proof for the differences between the gods, the religions, and the two men.

055 9/19d: "- - - Allah guides not those who do wrong". Allah guides nobody if he does not exist and in addition is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever). And which the Bible indirectly, but clearly says he is not - and the realities around the Quran and around Allah confirms this.

056 9/19e: "- - - do wrong". See 2/21b above.

#####057 9/20a: "Those who believe (Muslims*), and suffer exile and strive with might and main (= go to war*), in Allah's cause, with their goods (finance raids and war*) and persons (go to war themselves*), have the highest rank in the sight of Allah: they are the people who will achieve (salvation)". You find nothing like this in the Bible, not even in OT, where there was some fighting, mainly to establish and later defend a country for the Israelites. And compared to NT, Jesus and his teaching do not belong even to the same galaxy as Muhammad and his Islam.

Even if you omit all the other indications and proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad serving very different gods and religions - the Quran's demand for and romancing war and fighting, loot and suppression, permission to rape captives and take slaves, etc., etc. alone are an absolute proof for this.

058 9/20b: "- - - strive with might and main - - -". See 9/19c above.

059 9/20c: "- - - Allah's cause - - ". Does not exist unless Allah exists and is a god (we are reluctant to use the expression "Allah's cause" if he belongs to the dark forces).

060 9/21a: "- - - glad tidings - - -". The claims about the Quran's Paradise are glad tidings only if they are true - and the Quran all too often is wrong and not reliable, and definitely not from any god, not that full of errors, etc.

061 9/21b: "- - - a Mercy from Himself (Allah*) - - -". A parallel to 8/70d and 9/5b above.

062 9/21c: "- - - Gardens - - -". The Quran's Paradise is the poor and naive and uneducated desert dwellers dream of a royal luxury life with a great harem in addition (Paradise is for men mainly in the Quran), the Bible's Paradise is that you "will be like the angels in heaven" (Matt. 22/30). This is one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not serving the same god.

We may add that we know which Paradise we would prefer if we had the choice - and which one is most worthy an omniscient and omnipotent god.(Allah's is quite a primitive one, and over the centuries and more also a very boring one).

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

063 9/22a: "They (Muslims*) will dwell therein (in Paradise*) for ever". But 11/107a and 11/108 may indicate that the Quran's and Islam's Paradise is not quite forever. (Islam explains this away with that this just means that the people there will be transferred to an even better place - not too difficult, as the Quran's Paradise is not much of a Paradise - but this nowhere is said in the Quran).

This problem you do not find in the Bible - there the Paradise clearly is forever.

064 9/22b: "Verily in Allah's presence is a reward, the greatest (of all)". A parallel to 9/21a above.

A small point: If Allah does not exist and/or for other reasons is not a god, there is no Allah's presence - and the same may be the case if he all the same do exist and is a god, but is wrongly described among all the other mistakes in the Quran. The alternative that Allah exists, but belongs to the dark forces, we do not mention.

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

065 9/23: "- - - do wrong". See 2/21b above.

066 9/24a: "- - - Allah, or His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A variety of Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

067 9/24b: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and for that case also the other comments under 7/157.

068 9/24c: "- - - striving (waging war*) in His (Allah's*) cause - - -". A parallel to 9/20 above.

069 9/24d: "- - - Allah guides not the rebellious". Allah guides nobody if he does not exist and in addition is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved - and which both the Bible and the Quran indirectly, but clearly says he is not.

070 9/24e: "- - - the rebellious - - -". See 2/21b above.

071 9/25; "Assuredly Allah did help you (Muslims*) - - - on the day of (the battle of*) Hunayn (early 630 AD*) - - -". How could this have been written billions of years before it happened - Muhammad claimed the Quran was a copy of the claimed "Mother of the Book" in Heaven (13/39, 43/4, 85/22), written before the Earth was made - if Allah does not use full predestination? The laws of chaos make such writing clearly impossible if man has even a tiny wee bit of free will.

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", "assuredly”, etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

072 9/26a: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and for that case also the other comments under 7/157.

073 9/26b:: "- - - (Allah*) sent down forces (angels) which ye (Muslims*) saw not (to the Battle of Hunayn - early 630 AD*) - - -". Where in NT do you find Jesus telling stories like this?

Another question is: Why does an omnipotent god need to send his angels to take part in a physical battle? - or for that kind need to let his followers wage war?

And yet another point: Muhammad in the Quran claims that the reason why Allah could not send down angels as proofs for Allah and for Islam, was that to send one down, meant that the Day of Doom had arrived. Here it is claimed he sent down large forces of angels, and still there was no Day of Doom. Comments?

074 9/26c: "- - - thus doth He (Allah*) reward those without Faith (Islam*)". We are back to the old fact: Allah can neither punish nor reward anybody unless he exists and is a god. (And f.x. both the Quran and the Bible indirectly, but very clearly tell Allah is not a god).

075 9/27a: "Again will Allah - - - turn (in mercy) - - -". This Allah cannot do unless he exists - and with little effect unless he in addition is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

076 9/27b: "- - - turn (in mercy) to whom He (Allah*) will - - -". According to the Bible Yahweh turns in mercy to whoever honestly asks for it and in addition at least tries to live according to his rules.

077 9/27c: "- - - Allah is - - - Most Merciful". See 9/5b above.

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them, the names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

078 9/28a: "- - - the Sacred Mosque (the Kabah in Mecca*)".Also see 2/191c above and 48/27d below and not least 22/26a below. And see 2/125e in http://www.1000mistakes.com.

079 9/28b: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise". Not if he made the Quran.

080 9/29a: "Fight those who believe not in Allah - - -". A clear order - and very unlike the teaching of Jesus. A parallel to 9/20 above.

##081 9/29b: "Fight those who (do not*) - - - - hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Prophet - - -". A most clear order - but you find nothing like this in the Bible, and definitely not in NT. One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion or in the same of little else.

Any dictator would have like that his underlings got such a message from their claimed god.

082 9/29c: "- - - Allah and his Prophet - - -". Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his god and platform of power. You do not find Jesus using such a mantra anywhere in the Bible. Oh, he frequently mentioned that Yahweh was his father, but he did not use it as a mantra, and he also did not use it for gaining personal power.

Besides:

1. No omniscient god could or would use a vice-king telling lots of wrong facts and other errors, etc. like Muhammad and the Quran do.

2. No omniscient god would use a helpless language where the believers again and again and again have to explain "what the god really means" to explain away errors, contradictions, invalid logic, etc., and especially not so in a book the god himself repeatedly and clearly tells shall be understood literally if nothing else is indicated.

3. No good and benevolent would start a religion run by a vice-king representing suppression, slave taking, rape, apartheid, fascism, murder, and war, like Muhammad.

4. No god of a religion of honesty and truth would use for his vice king a robber baron accepting or even inciting to dishonesty in deeds and words - stealing/looting, extortion, and the use of lies, half-truths, deception, and even broken words/promises/oaths (f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

083 9/29d: "- - - Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157e above - and the other comments under 7/157.

084 9/29e: "- - - the religion of Truth - - -". Knowing at least parts of all the mistakes in the Quran, and knowing Islam's very lenient and "free" view on honesty (al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie - Kitman - the lawful half-truth - its acceptance of deception and betrayal (because Muhammad accepted and used it), it acceptance of even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), this undocumented claim neither needs nor deserves a comment.

As a "brother" of al-Takiyya and Kitman, etc., we should also mention the tradition for "Hilah": A "device to stop, hinder, or trick - - -. Stratagem to avoid or circumvent legal principles or rigid constructs. - - - utilized - - - to solve contradictions between (political powers, cultural choises, etc*) and Quranic principles". (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). In plain words: ways/tricks of seemingly or formally being honest or correct, while in reality being dishonest or incorrect. It seems that this aspect of "the religion of truth" was first campaigned of the Hanifi law school, but later utilized also by the other 3 Muslim law schools. "Hilah" is dishonesty in disguise. True honesty is not always central in Islam and among Islam's religious and moral forefront.

085 9/29f: "- - - Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

###086 9/29g: "- - - (fight all non-Muslims*) until they pay the jizya (extra tax*) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued". This is one of the points in the Quran every non-Muslim should know about, but which need no comment - these words speak too well for themselves.

A 200%+ proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad did not serve neither the same god, nor the same religion - and consequently also were not in the same line of prophets to say the least of it.

087 9/30a: "The Jews call 'Usayr (Ezra*) a son of God - - -". This definitely is not from the Bible - there never was a question of Ezra being the son of Yahweh. Some Muslims say this mistake happened because local Jews in Medina said Ezra was such a son - a claim which sounds suspect as those Jews had the same scriptures like other Jews. But even if this should happen to be true - we have not been able to find out for sure - any god had known that this was not true for "the Jews", only for some locals in case. Then who made the Quran?

088 9/30b: "- - - the Christians call Christ (Jesus*) the son of God (Yahweh*)". This Muhammad protested vehemently to - he did not understand the connection Yahweh/Jesus, and thought it meant 2 gods (but there may be more members in a royal family, even if there only is one king), and not least: Muhammad wanted to be the greatest of prophets ever, but not one soul would believe that if they believed Jesus was the son of Yahweh.

But according to the Bible Jesus is named the son of Yahweh at least 204 times, and Jesus the son of Yahweh at least 89 times - and many of those times by Jesus himself, a prophet even the Quran recons to be a reliable one.

089 9/30c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) but imitate what the Unbelievers of the old used to say (about their religion*)". The irony is that this is just what Muslims are doing even today: Not a comma was ever proved about the existence of Allah or Muhammad's connection to a god, but some started to believe in Muhammad's claims - and then told their offspring and others that his tales had to be true. That is the plain story about Islam; some of the old came to believe some never proved claims, and later generations were told to believe their old ones - very many "on the point of the sword.

090 9/30d: "- - - Allah's course - - -". Does not exist unless Allah exists, and is of little consequence unless he in addition is something supernatural, white of black.

091 9/30e: "- - - how they (non-Muslims*) are deluded away from the Truth!" Who were and are deluded away from the truth? - the ones believing Muhammad's never proved tales? - the ones believing in the Bible, where there after all are some indications and proofs for that someone supernatural may have been involved, if the old books tell the truth? - the ones who were able to see that something was/is seriously wrong with Muhammad's new religion and claimed holy book?

092 9/30f: "- - - the Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

093 9/31a: "- - - Christ, the son of Mary - - -". Muhammad used this expression to underline his never documented, never proved claim that Jesus was not the son of Yahweh. Actually as Joseph was his accepted and official father here on Earth, Jesus' correct name was Jesus, son of Joseph - Jesus ben Joseph (or as Jesus is the Greek form of the Hebrew Joshua: Joshua ben Joseph). But as known Muhammad did not mind the truth too much if twisting the truth gave a better result. We may add that in the Bible Jesus is called the son of Yahweh ca. 90 times, and Yahweh is called the father of Jesus more than 200 times, in both cases often by Jesus himself, and the Quran tells that Jesus was a truthful and reliable prophet.

Another point: AS THE QURAN IN 21/91a CONFIRMS THAT IT WAS THE GOD WHO CREATED JESUS INSIDE MARY, HOW WAS/IS IT THEN POSSIBLE FOR MUHAMMAD, THE QURAN, ISLAM, AND MUSLIMS TO CLAIM THE GOD WAS NOT JESUS' FATHER?? THE ONE CREATING A BABY INSIDE A WOMAN, IS THE FATHER.

094 9/31b: "- - - they (the Christians*) were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He". In a way correct, but the problem is that the Bible tells that the only god was Yahweh, not Allah, and that Yahweh's teaching was very different from what Muhammad claimed. Both Jews and Christians have only one god, but it is Yahweh, not Allah.

095 9/31c: "Praise and glory to Him (Allah*) - - -". Why so if he does not exist and/or is not a god? Besides: Even if he was a god, please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, the unjust parts of the sharia laws, etc. How much praise and glory do you think he deserves?

096 9/31d: "- - - the partners (other gods*) they (non-Muslims*) associate (with Him (Allah*))". See 1/5 and 6/14c above.

097 9/32a: "- - - Allah's Light - - -". How much religious light is there in a book so full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. that it clearly is not from a god?

098 9/32b: "- - - Allah will not allow - - -". What Allah will matters nothing if he does not exist, and very little if he after all exists, but is not something supernatural, white or black.

099 9/33a: "It is He (Allah*) who hath sent His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". No omniscient god ever sent a messenger preaching that many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, etc. like Muhammad did. Actually no god ever used a representative telling so many wrong facts, contradictions, cases invalid logic, etc. like Muhammad. And no good and benevolent god ever used as his representative and prophet/messenger a brutal and bloody robber baron like Muhammad, so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you" like Muhammad did - - - and no god of "a religion of the truth" could use one who accepted the use of and himself used lies - even a few(?) in the Quran - deceit, and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a). 

100 9/33b: "- - - Messenger - - -". See 7/157a-c above (and for that case also the other comments under 7/157).

101 9/33c: "It is He (Allah*) who hath sent his Messenger (Muhammad*) with Guidance and the Religion of Truth - - -". According to Jesus the only religion of truth you find in the Bible. Also see 7/157a-c above - and for that case the other comments under 7/157.

102 9/33d: "- - - Guidance - - -". There is not much reliable guidance in a book of a quality like the Quran.

##103 9/33e: "- - - (Islam is*) the Religion of Truth - - -". When you know how much is wrong in the Quran, it is easy to see the black, unintended joke in claims like this. Add to this Muhammad's view on honesty - the use of lies (al-Taqiyyas - the lawful lies), half truths (= Kitman), deceit and betrayal and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), it changes from a dark and unintended joke, to something sinister - not because of the claim, but because many Muslims honestly believe that Muhammad and his book the Quran tells the full and only truth.

####104 9/33f: "- - - proclaim it (Islam*) over all religion - - -". For anyone doubting what is Islam's goal: There are some clear orders like this one in the Quran - some of them includes orders for using weapons + all means and strategies to achieve it. Not possible to misunderstand.

105 9/34a: "- - - the Way of Allah - - -". This way does not exist unless Allah exists and in addition is something supernatural, white - the way leading to a good place - or black, and the way leading to another place. (Many points in the Quran fit the dark forces better than they fit a good and benevolent god.)

106 9/34b: "- - - (spend*) in the Way of Allah". This is an expression you meet some places in the Quran. Normally it means giving money to make "holy" warfare possible or in other ways to forward Islam and its Muslims. You do not find a similar expression in the Bible - normally when one in the Bible is asked to give, it is to help poor people.

107 9/34c: "- - - announce unto them (cheap persons not giving enough money to Muhammad/Islam*) a most grievous penalty (Hell*)". There is no use in an announcement unless there is power behind it.

108 9/36a: "The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year) - - -". This is not from the Bible, even though in the old times the Israelites lived by a moon calendar. But they - like the old Arabs - used to add an extra month into some years to keep pace with the natural years. In Islam Muhammad put an end to the extra months, making Islam being the only of the big (and few if any small) religion which has an official year shorter than the natural year (some 11 days shorter = ca. 3 extra and artificial "years" a century).

One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

109 9/36b: "- - - so ordained by Him (Allah*) - - -". But as the Quran with all its errors and worse is not from any god, then who gave the Muslims their artificial year?

Yahweh did not order similar. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

110 9/36c: "- - - the Day He (Allah*) created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". According to the Bible it was Yahweh, not Allah, who created this - and according to science both books may be wrong on these points.

111 9/36d: "- - - of them (the 12 months an artificial year*) four are sacred - - -". There is not a word about such a thing in the Bible. (In reality it is an old pagan custom from Arabia - during four of the months each year (number 1, 7, 11, and 12), f.x. fighting was prohibited. Why did Allah have to take over old pagan customs, but mainly Arab ones only?) One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, either both of them or none of them had declared some months to be holy.

Yahweh did not order similar. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

p>112 9/36e: "- - - and fight the Pagans all together as they fight you (the Muslims*) all together". As the Quran with all its errors, etc. is not from any god, and Islam thus likely is a made up, pagan religion, this sentence is quite ironic. But it tells a lot about the claimed "Religion of Peace". 

Besides: Try to find a similar order from Jesus anywhere in the Bible (but please do not compare it to Jesus' words about "love your enemies" (f.x. Matt. 5/44) - it is unfair competition). One more strong proof for that Jesus and Muhammad were not serving the same god and not the same religion (not to mention belonged to the same line of prophets).

113 9/36f: "- - - Allah is with those - - -". Allah is with nobody unless he exists.

114 9/37a: "- - - months forbidden by Allah - - -". As the prohibition is made via the Quran, and as the Quran with all its errors, etc. is not from any god, then who really was it who forbade them? Also see 9/36d above.

115 9/37b: "The evil of their (non-Muslims*) course seems pleasing to them". This is a claim from Muhammad - like normal not proved. He forgot(?) to check if the situation was/is the same among Muslims.

116 9/37c: "But Allah guideth not those who reject Faith (Islam*)". We are back to the old facts: Allah can guide nobody unless he exists, more or less the same if he exists, but is no god, and in no case he can give reliable guidance to anyone by means of a guidebook full of mistakes, contradictions, and clearly not from a god.

We do not debate the alternative if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces - the situation in case is too obvious.

117 9/38a: "- - - go forth (in war*) in the Cause of Allah - - -". You will find nothing similar in the Bible, not to mention in the teachings of Jesus. One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. See f.x. 4/71 above.

Another point: As the Quran is not connected to any god, was the cause really Muhammad's and not Allah's?

Also see 9/48b below.

118 9/38b: "- - - the cause of Allah - - -". See 2/190a+b and 2/244a above and 29/2 below. Another point here: As the Quran is not connected to any god, was the cause really Muhammad's and not Allah's?

#119 9/38c: "But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the (Islamic*) Hereafter". This may be true if:

1. There really is a next life. 

2. Allah exists.

3. Allah in addition is a god.

4. Allah in addition is a great enough god to have a paradise.

5. Allah in addition is correctly described among all the errors and worse - even a few(?) lies - in the Quran.

6. The conditions for qualifying for acceptance to the Paradise is correctly described among all the errors, etc. - even the few(?) lies - in the Quran.

The reality around the making of the Quran and all its mistakes + the fact that Allah nowhere has manifested himself or in any way provably exists outside Muhammad's doubtful words, indicate that only point 1 perhaps may be true.

###It would be the pinnacle of irony if harsh Muslim warriors arriving at the gate of Heaven, expecting well deserved luxury food and wine and long series of fucking their houris, find that Yahweh and Jesus are waiting them, telling them that inhuman al-Taiyya-ists and robbers and rapists and worse do not belong in Heaven, and that the same goes for believers in made up pagan gods (like Allah is if he is a made up one - Islam is too far from the Bible to really be an apocryphal religion (in this case meaning a split off, but after all somewhat Biblical religion), and thus is a pagan one as compared to the Bible).

We may add that the idea of houris (and of serving, handsome youths - handsome plenty enough to tempt homosexuals (not said in the Quran) Muhammad "borrowed" from the Zoroastrian religion (Persia), and the same for the 4 rivers in Paradise). Nearly no thoughts or ideas are original in the Quran - more or less everything is "borrowed" from religions and cultures in and around Arabia at the time of Muhammad. A pertinent question here: Would an omniscient god aiming for the entire world, need to borrow all his ideas from primitive Arabia and its neighbors? - and only from the time of Muhammad?

€€€120 9/38-54: These verses are not from the Bible. Ordering, inciting, romancing war. It is very difficult to see how people knowing both the Bible and the Quran are able to believe Jesus and Muhammad served the same god or belonged to the same religion, not to mention belonged to the same line of prophets. These verses are a strong proof for that the mentioned, never documented, claim is wrong.

Also: How could this have been written in "the Mother of the Book", of which the Quran is said to be an exact copy, millions of years before it happened, unless Allah has total predestination? - and where is then the claimed free will of man? 

##121 9/39a: "Unless you (Muslims*) go forth (in battle*), He (Allah*) will punish you with a grievous penalty - - -". No-one who knows Jesus' words needs a comment to this - it is exactly the opposite of "turn the other cheek" (Matt. 5/39) and "love your enemy" (Matt. 5/44). But it is one of the 200+% proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not serve the same god or belong to the same religion, not to mention to the same line of prophets. "The religion of war" contra "the religion of love" if you in both cases follow what the claimed holy books tell you. (Just to mention it: "The Religion of Peace" is a name not in accordance with the contents of the Quran, and especially not the surahs from Medina. But it is a good slogan, and people with little knowledge or strong wishful thinking may believe in it.)

122 9/39b: "- - - He (Allah*) will punish you (Muslims*) - - -". Allah is not able neither to punish nor to reward anybody unless he exists.

123 9/39c: "For Allah hath power over all things". According to the Bible only Yahweh is that powerful.

124 9/40a: "- - - Allah did indeed help him (Muhammad*) - - -". There never was a proved case of Allah helping anyone at all - not even Muhammad. There are lots and lots of claims, but not one single proved case.

125 9/40b: "- - - the word of Allah (the Quran*) - - -". But as the Quran and all its mistakes and worse (f.x. the use of invalid logic and the use of lies) are not from any god, whose words do the Quran really represent?

126 9/40c: "- - - Allah is Exalted in might - - -". According to the Bible only Yahweh is exalted in might. And what is an undisputable fact is that Allah has no might unless he exists, and very little unless he in addition is something supernatural, white or black.

127 9/40d: "- - - Allah is - - - wise". Not if he was behind the Quran and all its errors, etc.

128 9/41a: "Go ye (Muslims*) forth (in battle*), (whether equipped) lightly of heavily, and strive and struggle (Quranic for fight*), with your goods (to finance raids and wars*) and your person (take part in the battles yourself*) - - -". A parallel to and as strong a proof for the difference between the teaching of the Bible and the teaching of the Quran as 9/39a above.

129 9/41b: "- - - the Cause of Allah". See 2/190a+b and 2/244a above and 29/2 below.

130 9/42: "- - - Allah doth know - - -". Allah does not know anything unless he exists, and he does not know anybody's thoughts unless he is something supernatural, good or bad.

131 9/43a: "Allah give thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) grace - - -". A parallel to 9/42 just above.

132 9/44a: "Those (Muslims*) who believe in Allah and the Last Day ask thee (Muhammad*) for no exemption from striving (waging raids/war*) with their goods (financing raids/war*) and persons (taking part in raids/war/battles*)". See 9/39a above.

One more proof for that Jesus and Muhammad were not serving the same god or religion.

133 9/44b: "And Allah knows well those who do their duty (go to war when Muhammad - and his successors - called*)". Just for your information: This is claimed to be "the Religion of Peace".

And if this is what "the Religion of Peace" demands, we hop never to meet a "Religion of Apartheid and Suppression and War".

Also see 9/39a above.

One more proof for that Jesus and Muhammad were not serving the same god or religion.

134 9/45: "Only those ask for exemption (from going to war, here the Tabuk campaign - Oct. 630 AD*) who believe not in Allah and the Last Day - - -". See 9/39a and 9/44b above.

One more proof for that Jesus and Muhammad were not serving the same god or religion.

135 9/47a: "But Allah knoweth well those who do wrong". Why then does he have to test everybody??

136 9/47b: "- - - do wrong". See 2/21b above.

137 9/48a: "- - - the Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

138 9/48b: "- - - the Decree of Allah - - -". Here is meant Allah's decree in the verses "sent down" for the Quran. But as it is clear that the Quran is too full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. to derive from a god; from who came the claimed decrees? - from dark forces (like a number of points in the Quran may indicate)? - from a mentally sick brain (TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) like modern medical science suspects? - from human helpers (like contemporaries of Muhammad suspected?) - or from Muhammad himself like many points - many - indicate?

Also see 2/176b,6/34a+b and 9/38a+c above.

139 9/49: "And indeed Hell surrounds the Unbeliever (non-Muslims*) (on all sides)". According to the Bible this is not correct for the followers of Yahweh.

140 9/51a: "Nothing will happen to us except what Allah hath decreed (predestined*) for us". As for predestination see f.x. 8/23 above.

141 9/51b: "He (Allah*) is our (Muslims'*) protector - - -". Allah can protect nobody unless he exists, and few unless he is not in addition something supernatural, good or bad.

142 9/51c: "- - - in Allah let the Believers (Muslims*) put their trust". A bit risky if Allah does not exist and/or is not a god. The Bible recommends Yahweh.

143 9/52a: "Can you (Muslims*) expect for us (Muslims*) (any fate) other than the two glorious things - (martyrdom or victory )?". Glorification of war - you find a lot of it in the Quran. Also in OT you find war - but war out of a necessity for establishing and later defending Israel/Judah, not a fight for the god, and not glorification of war as such. In NT war hardly is accepted at all. But Muhammad and his Quran orders, incites to, and glorify war, claiming it was for Allah, whereas in most cases it was to rob, take prisoners for extortion or slaves, or for spreading the religion. And for power for Muhammad (and for his successors).

One more of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion or line of prophets.

Besides: There were other possible outcomes. One of which was and is to come back home as a wreck and be a burden to your loved ones. Muhammad/the Quran never mention this after all very possible outcome - not good for the warriors' moral.

144 9/52b: "- - - Allah will send punishment - - -". The old story: Allah can send nothing unless he exists, and little unless he in addition is something supernatural, white or black.

145 9/53: "- - - (for the (Allah's*) Cause) - - -". See 2/190a+b above and 2/244a and 29/2 below.

146 9/54a: "- - - Allah and His Messenger - - -". Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

147 9/54b: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

148 9/54c: "- - - prayer - - -". See 4/77a above.

149 9/55a: "- - - Allah's Plan - - -". Again Allah's total predestination, and his Plan which nobody and nothing (which necessarily includes f.x. the will of men, prayers or forgiving) can change. This does not exist in the Bible - Yahweh can decide things and see to it that it happens, but there is no full predestination and no unchangeable Plan. One of the more than 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

150 9/55b: "- - - Allah's Plan is to punish them (the non-Muslims*) - - -". Which Allah cannot do unless he exists and is a god - and both the Bible and the reality behind the Quran and behind Allah, tell he at least is not a god, and according to the Bible there only is one god, Yahweh.

151 9/59a: "- - - Allah and His Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". Another variety of Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

152 9/59b: "- - - Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157e above - and the other comments under 7/157.

153 9/59c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

154 9/59d: "- - - to Allah do we (Muslims*) turn our hope". The Bible recommends Yahweh instead.

155 9/59e: "(That (aiming for Allah*) would have been the right course.)" Not unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever). Not to mention what their course was -and is? - if Allah belong to the dark forces.

156 9/60a: "Alms are for - - - (a number of things included*) the cause of Allah - - -". There were two kinds of alms: The alms given from your own decision, the sadaqat, and the obligatory one, the zakat. This last one normally was some 2.5% of what you owned each year. It often was and is called "the poor-tax" but the better part too often was used for other things than helping the poor, like financing war and expansion of Islam.

Comparison to the Bible is impossible, as nothing like this is in the Bible. The most obvious comparison is Jesus' words: "Give to Caesar (the Emperor*) what is Caesar's (= tax*), and to God (Yahweh*) what is God's (= belief in him*)" - Muhammad took both Allah's part (the religion) and Caesar's part (the political power and the money). One of the many absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad neither serving the same god nor belonging to the same religion, to say the least of it.

As for "the cause of Allah", see 2/190a+b and 2/244a above and 29/2 below.

157 9/60b: "- - - (- - - Truth)- - -". See 2/26 above.

158 9/60c: "- - - (thus is it) ordained by Allah - - -". But as the Quran and all its errors, etc. is not from any god, who is it then who has ordained it?

Also: If Yahweh and Allah had been the same god, their rules also on this had been similar. They are not. We especially point to giving to "the cause of Allah" which for the better part meant money for war and raid expenses and outfit.

159 9/60d: "- - - Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom". Not if he was behind the Quran with all its errors, contradictions, invalid logic etc. (as for knowledge also see 22/3a below).

160 9/61a: "- - - Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157e above - and the other comments under 7/157.

161 9/61b: "- - - (Muhammad*) is a Mercy to those who believe". How big a mercy was Muhammad even to his followers - not to mention to others - except the ones who grew rich and powerful from looting extortion, and slave taking? - and the question is extra sinister if his god and his religion were made up - pagan - ones, not to mention if there really somewhere is a next life with a real god waiting - f.x. a good and benevolent god Muslims have been prohibited from even looking for and/or if Allah was from the dark forces.

162 9/62a+63a: "- - - Allah and His Messenger - - -". Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

163 9/62b+63b: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

164 9/64a: "- - - a surah should be sent down - - -". But were they really sent down (or up)? - and as no god was involved: In case from whom?

Also see 2/176b above.

165 9/64b: "- - - Allah will bring to light - - -". Impossible unless he exists and is a god (a devil hardly brings light).

166 9/65a: "- - - His (Allah's) Signs - - -". See 4/104b above.

167 9/65b: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". No omniscient god ever had a messenger preaching so many wrong facts, contradictions, etc., etc. No good and benevolent god could ever use a harsh and bloody robber baron as his messenger. And no god leading a "religion of the truth", could ever use a messenger accepting and using dishonesty as working tools (f.x. broken words/promises/oaths - 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

168 9/65c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

169 9/66a: "- - - Faith - - -". In the Quran "faith" always means belief in Muhammad's new religion. In the Bible it means belief in Yahweh.

170 9/66b: "- - - sin". See 2/21b above.

171 9/67: "- - - evil - - - what is just - - -". See 2/21b above.

172 9/68a: "Allah hath promised - - -". There is not one proved case in all history of man and in the entire world of Allah giving a promise, not to mention keeping one. Shiploads of claims, but not one proved case.

173 9/68b: "- - - Faith - - -". In the Quran "faith" always means belief in Muhammad's new religion. In the Bible it means belief in Yahweh.

174 9/68c: "- - - the curse of Allah - - -". This does not exist unless Allah exists, and means little unless he in addition is someone supernatural, white or black. By the way: As the Quran and all its errors are not from a god - no omniscient god was ever involved in a book of a quality like the Quran - then whose curse is it really? - and how much is it worth?

175 9/70a: 'Ad, Thamud, the men of Median, are not from the Bible. The Cities overthrown = Sodom and Gomorrah.

176 9/70b: "- - - Clear Signs (here indicated to be from Allah*)". See 4/140b above and 36/33 below.

177 9/71a: "- - - just - - - evil - - -". See 2/21b above.

178 9/71b: "- - - regular prayers - - -". See 4/77a above.

179 9/71c: "- - - regular charity - - -". See 4/77b above.

180 9/71d: "- - - obey Allah and His Messenger - - -". A strengthened version of Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

181 9/71e: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

182 9/71f: "- - - Allah is exalted in Power - - -". According to the Bible Yahweh all the same is the most powerful. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat more often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - we may even mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on not proved claims (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explain away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers). But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

In addition: When Muslims claim or state things, demand proofs (or dismiss what they claim) - Muslims have no valid proof for any central point in their entire religion.

183 9/71g: "- - - Allah is - - - Wise". Not if he was involved in the delivery (?) of the Quran with all its errors, contradictions, etc.

184 9/72a: "Allah hath promised - - -". All claimed promises from Allah are invalid if he does not exist, or if he exists but is not a major something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever). (The Bible indirectly, but clearly tells he is not a god. The same do the realities around the Quran and around Allah.)

185 9/72b: "- - - (the Quran's Paradise is*) Gardens under which rivers flow - - - and beautiful mansions in everlasting bliss". The sum of the descriptions of the Paradise here and other places in the Quran, adds up to a picture very different from Jesus' Paradise. These many, huge and fundamental differences between the Paradise of Yahweh and the one of Allah are one of the many absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

186 9/72c: "- - - Gardens of everlasting bliss". But according to 11/107a and 11/108 perhaps it is not quite everlasting (and 6/128c, 11/107a, and 78/23 may indicate the same for Hell). This problem you do not meet in the Bible - there both definitely are forever.

187 9/72d: "But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of Allah - - -". Which means that Muslims have not too much to look forward to is Allah does not exist and/or is no god".

188 9/73a: "- - - Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157e above - and the other comments under 7/157.

##189 9/73b: "Strive (fight/wage war on*) hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them". Jesus never said anything like this - his fighting was intellectual, not armed. On the contrary he tells you to love your enemies (Matt. 5/44). One more of the absolute proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion, did not serve the same god, did not belong to the same line of prophets, etc.

190 9/74a: "- - - blasphemy - - -". It is not blasphemy to doubt Allah if no Allah exists - or if he exists, but is no major god. Neither his existence, nor his being a god is proved. (Actually the Bible indirectly, but most clearly tells he at least was/is no god. The same the reality around the Quran and around Allah do.)

191 9/74b: "- - - Allah and His Messenger - - -". Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

Besides:

1. No omniscient god could or would use a vice-king telling lots of wrong facts and other errors, etc. like Muhammad and the Quran do.

2. No omniscient god would use a helpless language where the believers again and again and again have to explain "what the god really means" to explain away errors, contradictions, invalid logic, etc., and especially not so in a book the god himself repeatedly and clearly tells shall be understood literally if nothing else is indicated.

3. No good and benevolent would start a religion run by a vice-king representing suppression, slave taking, rape, apartheid, fascism, murder, and war, like Muhammad.

4. No god of a religion of honesty and truth would use for his vice king a robber baron accepting or even inciting to dishonesty in deeds and words - stealing/looting, extortion, and the use of lies, half-truths, deception, and even broken words/promises/oaths (f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

192 9/74c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

193 9/74d: "- - - Allah will punish them (non-Muslims*) - - -". Impossible unless he exists, and as for punishment in the next life also that is impossible unless he in addition is something supernatural, good or bad.

194 9/74e: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) shall have none on the earth to protect them - - -". The Bible tells that at least the followers of Yahweh - all of them non-Muslims - have a good protector.

195 9/75: "- - - righteous". See 2/21b above.

196 9/77a: "- - - till the Day (of Doom*) whereon they (non-Muslims/hypocrites*) shall meet Him - - -". According to the Bible they that day are to meet Yahweh, not Allah.

197 9/77b: "- - - their Covenant with Allah - - -". There is nowhere in the Quran specified where and when such a covenant was made, or exactly what it contained. (But it is possible for Islam to claim it is like the New Covenant via Jesus in the Bible (f.x. Luke 22/20). Here the time is given, but the contents must be extracted from Jesus' teaching, and Muslims may claim the situation is the same for Allah's claimed covenant with Muslims. But there after all is a difference in that in one case a covenant is declared, in the other Muhammad just starts talking like one is declared in spite of that there nowhere in any declaration. If there only is one part who has stipulated and then agreed to a covenant, it is no covenant.)

198 9/78 "- - - Allah knoweth well all things unseen". Not if he was behind the Quran and all the wrong points in it.

But if he sees and knows everything like the Quran states many places, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and he thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap - and obedient - warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc. + Islamic compulsion): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

199 9/80a: "Whether thou (Muhammad*) ask (Allah*) for their forgiveness - - -". Impossible unless Allah exists and is a god. Besides even if he exists and is a god, he cannot forgive anyone, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to several statements in the Quran.

200 9/80b: "- - - (their sin is unforgiveable) - - -". According to Jesus no sin is unforgiveable as long as there is honest regret (see f.x. "the 11. hour" - f.x. Matt.20/6-15). A dramatic difference between the teaching of Jesus and the teaching of Muhammad - one of the many proofs.

201 9/80c: "- - - if thou (Muhammad/Muslims*) ask seventy times for their forgiveness, Allah will not forgive them - - -". The corresponding words in NT are: "You shall forgive seventy times seven times". No comments - and none necessary.

202 9/80d: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". No omniscient god ever sent a messenger preaching that many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, etc. like Muhammad did. Actually no god ever used a representative telling so many wrong facts, contradictions, cases invalid logic, etc. like Muhammad. And no good and benevolent god ever used as his representative and prophet/messenger a brutal and bloody robber baron like Muhammad, so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you" like Muhammad did - - - and no god of "a religion of the truth" could use one who accepted the use of and himself used lies - even a few(?) in the Quran - deceit, and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

203 9/80e: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

204 9/80f: "- - - Allah guideth not - - -". Allah can guide nobody unless he exists. Besides: Not even a god is a reliable guide if he uses a guidebook of a quality like the Quran.

205 9/80g: "- - - perverse - - -". Who are perverse? - the ones seeing at least some of all which is wrong in the Quran and understand what it means? - or the ones blindly believing in a claimed holy book so full of errors and worse, that it itself proves there never was a god involved?

206 9/81a: "Those who were left behind (in the Tabuk expedition (Oct. 630 AD*)) rejoiced in their inaction - - -". How was it possible to know about the Tabuk expedition - staged because of a rumor - about someone left behind, or about these being glad, billions of years before it happened (Islam claims the Quran was made before the world was created - or never made but existed since eternity) if Allah does not predestine every detail of what happens - to man and animal and nature? Just an infinitesimal part of free will for man - or animals - over that long time, and the laws of chaos had made such a foretelling impossible even for a god, unless that god predestines absolutely everything.

And how can Allah explain rewarding or punishing a human who just is Allah's puppet-on-a-string? In the Bible man has real free will and a god's reactions to human behavior may be explainable. But how to explain that a claimed good and benevolent and fair god sends you to Hell as punishment for bad deeds he has forced you to do? Or as bad: If one are to believe Hadiths, Allah decides whether you are to end in Hell or Heaven 5 months before you are even born, and nothing you can do can change his decision!

207 9/81b: "- - - the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad*) - - -". A variety of Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

Besides no omniscient god ever sent a messenger preaching that many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, etc. like Muhammad did. Actually no god ever used a representative telling so many wrong facts, contradictions, cases invalid logic, etc. like Muhammad. And no good and benevolent god ever used as his representative and prophet/messenger a brutal and bloody robber baron like Muhammad, so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you" like Muhammad did - - - and no god of "a religion of the truth" could use one who accepted the use of and himself used lies - even a few(?) in the Quran - deceit, and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

208 9/81c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

209 9/81d: "- - - they (reluctant people*) hated to strive and fight - - -". Muhammad demanded this, Jesus abhorred it. Two very different persons from very different religions - and serving very different gods.

210 9/81e: "- - - the Cause of Allah - - -". See 2/190a+b and 2/244a above and 29/2 below.

€€€211 9/81-89: More verses glorifying and inciting to war. Not from the Bible - and more absolute proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not serve the same god, did not belong to the same religion - and did not belong to the same line of prophets (in addition to that Muhammad was not really a prophet, as he was unable to make prophesies).

212 9/82: "- - - (evil) - - -". See 2/21b above.

213 9/83: "Never shall ye (those not wanting to go to war*) come out with me (Muhammad/Muslims*) - - -" = Never shall you be forgiven. For a comparison: Jesus said you shall always (seventy times seven times) forgive. No comments necessary. But this is one more of the good proofs - or actually 2, because Jesus never would become angry because you did not want to go to war - with or without him.

214 9/84a: "Nor shall you (Muhammad*) pray for them that dies - - -". A parallel to 9/83 just above. Jesus and Muhammad were extremely different persons with extremely different mentalities, in very different religions.

215 9/84b: "- - - pray - - -". See 4/77a above.

216 9/84c: "- - - Allah and his Messenger - - -". Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

Besides no omniscient god ever sent a messenger preaching that many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, etc. like Muhammad did. Actually no god ever used a representative telling so many wrong facts, contradictions, cases invalid logic, etc. like Muhammad. And no good and benevolent god ever used as his representative and prophet/messenger a brutal and bloody robber baron like Muhammad, so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you" like Muhammad did - - - and no god of "a religion of the truth" could use one who accepted the use of and himself used lies - even a few(?) in the Quran - deceit, and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

217 9/84d: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

218 9/84e; "- - - a state of perverse rebellion". Not to obey Muhammad's rallying to arms and war, is "perverse rebellion" in "the Religion of Peace". No comments necessary - but one of the many absolute proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion, serve the same god - - - or belong to the same line of prophets.

219 9/85a: "- - - Allah's Plan - - -". See 9/55a above.

220 9/85b: "- - - Allah's Plan is to punish them (the non-Muslims*) - - -". Which Allah cannot do unless he exists and is a god (well, he can punish even if he belongs to the dark forces) - and the Bible tells he at least is not a god, as according to the Bible there only is one god, Yahweh.

221 9/86a: "- - - enjoining them (Muslims*) to strive and struggle (a Quranic expression for going on raids or to war*) with His (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Also here: No comments necessary - but one of the many absolute proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion, serve the same god, live by the same moral code - - - or belong to the same line of prophets.

222 9/86b: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger - - -". A variety of Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this. Also see 9/81b above.

223 9/86c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

224 9/87a: "They (who wanted no war*) prefer to be with the women - - -". An ever so strong ridicule in a primitive, but masculine war society - Muhammad knew to choose his words to incite his men to go fighting. You will nowhere find Jesus using such ridicule.

225 9/87b: "- - - they understand not - - -". See 9/11d above.

226 9/88a: "But the Messenger (Muhammad*), and those who believe in him, strive and struggle (= fights in raids and wars*) with their wealth (financing the warfare*) and their person (Muhammad f.x. lead many of the raids for stealing/robbing himself) - - -". Where in the Bible do you find Jesus saying or doing things like this? (Do not laugh - it is impolite.)

One more absolute proof for the extreme difference between Jesus and Muhammad, between Yahweh and Allah - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not serving in the same religion.

227 9/88b: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

228 9/88c: "- - - it is they (the robbing Muslims*) who will prosper". In a way correct: To steal and rob and take slaves are good businesses. But when the rest of the world grew strong enough to defend themselves from this society of dishonesty and looting, etc., the Muslim world came to harder times.

229 9/89: "- - - Gardens under which rivers flow - - -". See 9/72b above.

€€€230 9/90-95: A continuous incitement to war. Where in the Bible do you find Jesus saying or doing things like this?

One more absolute proof for the extreme difference between Jesus and Muhammad, between Yahweh and Allah, between Jesus' religion and Muhammad's religion.

231 9/90a+91b: "- - - Allah and his Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

232 9/90b+91c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

233 9/91a: "- - - (- - - the Cause (of Allah*)) - - -". See 2/190a+b and 2/244a above and 29/2 below.

234 9/91d: "- - - do right - - -". See 2/21b above.

235 9/91e: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". Even if Allah should happen to exist: Compare these sides of him with the god of Jesus - Yahweh - and weep.

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them, the names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

236 9/92: "I (Muhammad*) can find no (war*) mounts for you". An indication for why Muhammad needed riches; it shows here that he did not have enough equipment for his warriors. It costs money to wage war. Even if one makes good money from robbing, there are expenses first

Jesus did not have this problem.

236 9/93: "They (who wanted no war*) prefer to be with the (women) - - -". An ever so strong ridicule in a primitive, but masculine war society - Muhammad knew to choose his words to incite his men to go fighting. You will nowhere find Jesus using such ridicule.

238 9/94a: "- - - Allah hath already informed - - -". Impossible unless he existed and was something supernatural, good or bad.

239 9/94b: "- - - Allah and his Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

240 9/94c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

241 9/94d: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth what is hidden and what is open - - -". Not if he made the Quran.

Also: If he sees and knows everything like the Quran states many places, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and he thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc. + Islamic compulsion): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

242 9/95a: "- - - Hell is their (the ones who did not go to war*) dwelling-place - a fitting recompense for the (evil) they did". Is it possible to be further away from Jesus' teaching?! Jesus preached peace and love and forgiving. Muhammad here directly tells that if you do not go to war to rob and kill when he/his successors call, you will end in Hell, and your refusal is an evil thing. No more comments necessary.

One of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion or serve the same god - or to the prophets of the same god.

243 9/95b: "- - - (evil) - - -". See 2/21b above.

244 9/96: "- - - Allah is not pleased with those who disobey". As the Quran and all its mistakes is from no god, and thus the chances for that Allah is a real god are infinitesimal, who was it in reality who was displeased when someone did not obey Muhammad?

245 9/97a: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A version of Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

Besides no omniscient god ever sent a messenger preaching that many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, etc. like Muhammad did. Actually no god ever used a representative telling so many wrong facts, contradictions, cases invalid logic, etc. like Muhammad. And no good and benevolent god ever used as his representative and prophet/messenger a brutal and bloody robber baron like Muhammad, so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you" like Muhammad did - - - and no god of "a religion of the truth" could use one who accepted the use of and himself used lies - even a few(?) in the Quran - deceit, and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

246 9/97b : "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

247 9/97c: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise - - -". Not if he made the Quran. Also see 9/94d above.

248 9/98: "- - - Allah is He that heareth and knoweth (all things)". See 9/94d above.

249 9/99a: "- - - pious gifts bringing them (desert Arabs*) nearer to Allah - - -". But if Allah did not exist? - it is not possible to bring something nearer to nothing. Also if Allah was/is from the dark forces, here is something doubtful. But at least Muhammad got money or whatever.

250 9/99b: "- - - obtaining the prayers of the Messenger (Muhammad*)". See 4/77a above. But we may add: If the prayers had/have no effect in Islam - for one or more of the possible reasons - then Muhammad got a lot of riches for free, and the desert Arabs (and others) were nicely cheated.

251 9/99c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

252 9/99d: "- - - soon will Allah admit them to His Mercy (here: Paradise*) - - -". Impossible unless he exists and in addition is a major god.

253 9/99e: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". Even if Allah should happen to exist: Compare these sides of him with the god of Jesus and weep.

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them, the names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

254 9/100a: "- - - good deeds - - -" See 2/21b above.

255 9/100b: "- - - well-pleased is Allah with them (believing and obedient nomads*) - - -". Impossible unless he exists. And of little consequence unless he in addition is something supernatural, good or bad.

256 9/100c "- - - Gardens under which rivers flow - - -". See 9/72b above.

257 9/100d: "- - - to dwell therein for ever". But 11/107a and 11/108 may indicate that the Quran's and Islam's Paradise is not quite forever. (Islam explains this away with that this just means that the people there will be transferred to an even better place - not too difficult, as the Quran's Paradise is not much of a Paradise - but this nowhere is said in the Quran). And 6/128c, 11/107a, and 78/23 may indicate the same for Hell.

This problem you do not find in the Bible - there the Paradise (and Hell) clearly is forever.

258 9/101a: "Certain of the desert Arabs round about you (Muhammad/Muslims*) are hypocrites, as well as (desert Arabs) among the Madinah (Medina*) folk: they are obstinate in hypocrisy: thou knowest them not: We (Allah*) know them - - -". 1): Could this be written millions of years on beforehand (Muslims claim the Quran is an exact copy of "the Mother of the Book" in Heaven, written before the creation of the world, or existed since eternity) unless Allah has total and absolute predestination of everything? The laws of chaos would make - yes, chaos - of all precognition over such a span of time if not. 2): Are texts like these likely to be revered by an omniscient god and his angels in his own "home"?

If you use your eyes, you will find much text of this quality in the Quran.

259 9/101b: "- - - twice We (Allah*) shall punish them (nomads who would not follow Muhammad*) - - -". Impossible unless Allah exists and in addition has power - white or black - to do so.

260 9/102a: "- - - wrongdoings - - - good - - - evil - - -". See 2/21b above.

261 9/102b: "Perhaps Allah will turn unto them (in Mercy)". This is one of the fundamental differences between Yahweh and Allah. Allah forgives if he likes, Yahweh forgives whenever there is honest regret and wish for being forgiven. Except that Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god + he cannot forgive if this will change his unchangeable Plan.

262 9/102c: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 9/99e above.

263 9/103a: "Verily thy (Muhammad's?*) prayers are a source of security for them (Muslims*) - - -". Only if Allah exists and is a god.

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

264 9/103b: "- - - pray - - - prayers - - -". See 4/77a above and 11/87 below.

265 9/103c: "- - - Allah is One Who heareth and knoweth". See 9/94d above.

266 9/104a: "Know they (Muslims or prospective Muslims*) not that Allah doth accept repentance from his votaries and receive their gifts of charity - - -". What at least we know, is that Allah can accept nothing unless he exists, that he cannot accept repentance/forgive unless he is a god (and according to the Quran perhaps not even then, as it may change his unchangeable Plan) - and that as Allah's claimed representative on Earth, Muhammad received the gifts.

There also is another thing with charity in the Quran - the main thing is not to help the poor, but to gain merit in Heaven. In Christianity also to help fellow humans is a stronger point (in addition to merit in Heaven) than in the Quran).

267 9/104b: "- - - Allah is - - - Most Merciful - - -". Please read the surahs from Medina - f.x. about treatment of non-Muslims - and afterwards think over if you agree.

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them, the names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

268 9/105a: "Work (righteousness) - - -". See 2/21b above.

269 9/105b: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

Besides no omniscient god ever sent a messenger preaching that many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, etc. like Muhammad did. Actually no god ever used a representative telling so many wrong facts, contradictions, cases invalid logic, etc. like Muhammad. And no good and benevolent god ever used as his representative and prophet/messenger a brutal and bloody robber baron like Muhammad, so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you" like Muhammad did - - - and no god of "a religion of the truth" could use one who accepted the use of and himself used lies - even a few(?) in the Quran - deceit, and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

270 9/105c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

271 9/105d: "- - - the Knower (Allah*) of what is hidden and what is open - - -". But if he sees and knows everything like the Quran states many places, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and he thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc. + Islamic compulsion): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

272 9/105e: "- - - then (at the Day of Doom*) will He (Allah*) show you (people*) the truth of what ye did". For time number umpteen: Impossible unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

Besides no omniscient god ever sent a messenger preaching that many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, etc. like Muhammad did. Actually no god ever used a representative telling so many wrong facts, contradictions, cases invalid logic, etc. like Muhammad. And no good and benevolent god ever used as his representative and prophet/messenger a brutal and bloody robber baron like Muhammad, so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you" like Muhammad did - - - and no god of "a religion of the truth" could use one who accepted the use of and himself used lies - even a few(?) in the Quran - deceit, and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

273 9/106a: "- - - punish - - -". Allah can neither reward nor punish unless he at least exists - and in both cases not much unless he is something supernatural, good or bad.

#274 9/106b: "- - - mercy - - -". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, the unjust parts of the sharia laws, the Quran's code of conduct during/after raids and wars - how much real mercy do you find? - especially towards non-Muslims (it is easy to be merciful towards friends - where real mercy really manifests itself, is in the behavior towards opponents).

275 9/106c: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing, Wise". Not if he was behind the Quran.

276 9/107a: "- - - Allah and His (Muhammad's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

Besides no omniscient god ever sent a messenger preaching that many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, etc. like Muhammad did. Actually no god ever used a representative telling so many wrong facts, contradictions, cases invalid logic, etc. like Muhammad. And no good and benevolent god ever used as his representative and prophet/messenger a brutal and bloody robber baron like Muhammad, so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you" like Muhammad did - - - and no god of "a religion of the truth" could use one who accepted the use of and himself used lies - even a few(?) in the Quran - deceit, and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

277 9/107b: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

278 9/107c: "- - - Allah doth declare that they (competitors to Muhammad*) are certainly liars". Some ones built a competing mosque and tried to start a branch of Islam competing with Muhammad. Muhammad did not like it. As the Quran and all its mistakes is not from any god, and thus the surahs and verses not from any god, who then made the verses like this, telling the competitor of Muhammad was a liar? (Muhammad had his warriors destroy the competing mosque.

279 9/108a: "- - - prayer - - -". See 4/77a above.

280 9/108b: "- - - pure". See 2/21a above.

#281 9/109a: "Which then is best? - he (Muhammad*) that layeth his foundation on piety to Allah and His Good Pleasure? - or (the opponent)?" As the Quran and all its mistakes is not from any god, and as Allah only - only - exists in the claims from a rather immoral and unreliable (al-Taqiyya, Kitman, deception, betrayal, broken words/promises/oaths) man with much to gain from making people believe in his new religion, this is a most open question. The Bible advices that the honest followers of Yahweh are best. (There is a chance for that this is correct - the honest and real followers of NT, and the honest and real followers of Buddha may morally and humanly be the best humans. But note that we say the honest and real followers. Sorry to say so, but the honest and real followers of the surahs from Medina, will end far down on this list. But to be fair: If there were honest and real followers of only the surahs from Mecca, these would end much higher up.)

As a "brother" of al-Takiyya and Kitman, etc., we should also mention the tradition for "Hilah": A "device to stop, hinder, or trick - - -. Stratagem to avoid or circumvent legal principles or rigid constructs. - - - utilized - - - to solve contradictions between (political powers, cultural choices, etc*) and Quranic principles". (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). In plain words: ways/tricks of seemingly or formally being honest or correct, while in reality being dishonest or incorrect. It seems that this aspect of "the religion of truth" was first campaigned of the Hanifi law school, but later utilized also by the other 3 Muslim law schools. "Hilah" is dishonesty in disguise. True honesty is not always central in Islam and among Islam's religious and moral forefront.

282 9/109b: "- - - Allah guideth not people that do wrong". Allah can guide nobody unless he exists, and even if he should happen to exist and be a god - contradicted by the Bible and f.x. by the realities in the Quran - he cannot give reliable guidance if he uses a guidebook as full of errors, etc. as the Quran.

283 9/109c: "- - - do wrong". See 2/21b above.

284 9/110: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing, Wise". Not if he was behind the Quran.

€€€285 9/111-114: Not from the Bible - and conflicting with the Bible, especially NT. Conflicting the Bible so strongly, that it is not from the same god and definitely not from prophets of the same religion.

###286 9/111a: "Allah hath purchased the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise): they fight in His Cause, and slay and are slain - - -". In plain words Allah owns the Muslims and they are obliged to go on raids and to war when Allah/Muhammad demand(ed) so. This is so far from the Bible, and especially NT, that it is unbelievable that Muslim scholars who also know the Bible, are able to claim that Yahweh and his "real" religion = Allah and Islam. We honestly have serious problems understanding how it is possible. It must have to do with that they are taught to accept the words of their fathers and leaders, but not trained to think - critical thinking - themselves.

We also should point to that if Muhammad's religion was/is a made up one, Muhammad got cheap warriors when he promised payment in a next life.

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

287 9/111b: "- - - the Garden (Paradise*) - - -". The Quran's Paradise is the poor and naive and uneducated desert dwellers dream of a royal luxury life with a great harem in addition (Paradise is for men mainly in the Quran), the Bible's Paradise is that you "will be like the angels in heaven" (Matt. 22/30). This is one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not serving the same god.

We may add that we know which Paradise we would prefer if we had the choice - and which one is most worthy an omniscient and omnipotent god.(Allah's is quite a primitive one and over the centuries and more also a very boring one).

One point the Quran never explains, is how it is possible for you to have your family around you like the Quran promises, if not all of them qualifies for the same heaven or garden? Your son and daughter qualify for garden number 1 and 3 respectively, your wife for number 2, whereas you yourself were killed in the Battle of Tours in 732 AD and qualify for Firdaws. How to collect your family around you, like the Quran states is a fact?

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

###288 9/111c: "- - - they (Muslims*) fight in His (Allah's*) Cause, and slay and are slain - - -". To claim that the Bible and the Quran represents the same god really ought to be a hopeless task, if the audience knew the two books and were able to use their brains, not only their eyes (for reading) and ears (for listening). It is impossible for someone with an open mind, some knowledge, and an IQ over 60, not to see the big and fundamental differences which make such a claim impossible. Also this quote is one of the very many absolute proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not serve the same god, did not belong to the same religion or live according to the same moral code - - - and were not in the same line of prophets, i.e. prophets from the same god (in addition to that Muhammad was not really a prophet, as he was unable to make prophesies).

289 9/111d:: "- - - Allah's cause - - -". See 2/190a+b above and 2/244a and 29/2 below.

###290 9/111e: "- - - a promise (= go to war for Allah/Muhammad and end in Paradise*) binding on Him (Allah*) in truth - - -". This only can be - can be - true if Allah exists and is a major god, none of which is proved (actually the Bible tells indirectly but very clearly that he is not a god, and in the Quran all the errors, etc. tells that the book - the only source together with the even more unreliable Hadiths, for claims about Allah, is not connected to any god).

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

291 9/111f: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

###292 9/111g: "- - - a promise (= go to war for Allah/Muhammad and end in Paradise*) binding on Him (Allah*) in truth, through the Law (here likely the Law of Moses, not the sharia laws), the Gospel, and the Quran - - -". Except for the Quran, this is pure fiction. There is nothing like this in the old Laws of Moses, and even much less in the Gospels. Thought provoking here is that no god needs to use fiction as arguments, and the same goes for honest humans.

####An extra comment here about laws: Many Muslims refer to that Jesus said he did not come to change the old laws, and claim that the old Mosaic laws thus must rule also Christians - and that Christians are sinning against them. But they conveniently skip that he added "until everything is accomplished" (f.x. Matt.5/18), and also skip that he on the cross added "it is finished" (John 19/30) - everything was accomplished (and may be enough was accomplished even before). As many of the Islamic Laws are closer to the old Mosaic laws than to the milder ones introduced by Jesus, and to find sins among opponents, it was essential also for Muhammad to stress that Jesus just was confirming the old Mosaic laws, f.x. concerning food. That the claim was not true, did not matter much to him, and does not matter much to Islam of today (though to be honest we think most Muslims do not know better). But even the Quran in 5/15c confirms that the god changed old laws. And f.x. Matt.5/34-36, Matt. 5/43-44, Matt. 12/3-12, Matt. 15/11-20, Luke 14/5, and Peter's sights in Acts 10/10-16 made it clear that Jesus and/or Yahweh changed laws - and Mark 7/14-19 and not least the Quran in 3/50a directly confirm that Jesus did change some of the old laws - even though that clearly was not the reason why he came to Earth.

293 9/111h: "- - - who is more faithful to His Covenant than Allah?" Everybody and his grandmother if Allah does not exist or for other reasons is not the powerful god claimed in the Quran - and many more if he on top of all is from the dark forces. Remember here that there only exist Muhammad’s never documented claims for Allah's existence and power. And Muhammad even according to central Islamic literature was not a moral or reliable person - easy to see if you skip the glorifications and look at his deeds, demands, introduced rules, etc.

There is nowhere in the Quran directly said that Allah ever made a covenant with Muhammad and his followers, or what is the content of it in case.

294 9/111i: "Then rejoice in the bargain (go to war and end in Heaven*) which ye (Muslims*) have concluded, that is the achievement supreme". True if Allah exists and is correctly described in the Quran. True only for Muhammad and his successors if Islam is a made up religion - Muhammad then in case managed the supreme bargain of getting himself a strong army for nothing.

295 9/112a: "Those who turn (to Allah) in repentance; that serve Him (here on Earth in practice Muhammad*), and praise him - - -". To what avail unless he exists and is a god? (It will be quite an irony if he turns out to be from the dark forces.) The chances for that he exists are extremely small, not to mention that in addition the chances for that he in case is correctly described in the Quran is zero, as no book of that quality was ever made by a god - the only being which in case could correctly describe heaven and its inhabitants, included the god(s) - - - if a Heaven and/or a god exists.

296 9/112b: "- - - the Cause of Allah - - -". See 2/190a+b and 2/244a above and 29/2 below.

297 9/112c: "- - - prayer - - -". See 4/77a above and 11/87a below.

298 9/112d: "- - - good - - - evil - - -".

299 9/112e: "- - - the limit set by Allah (in the Quran*) - - -". But as the Quran and all its mistakes is not from any god, then who set the limits for god and for bad in Islam? There remain 3 possibilities: 

1: The dark forces (the Devil/Iblis). Many points in the Quran would fit a devil very well.

2: A mental illness like TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. Modern medical science suspects this (beware that Muhammad's claimed experiences does not fit "normal" epilepsy, but it fits TLE).

3: Or it is made by one or more cold human brain(s) - Muhammad's is the prime suspect for several reasons.

We may add that the differences in the limits of what is god and bad between in the Quran and in the Bible in many cases are strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not representing the same religion.

300 9/112f: "- - - the glad tiding - - -". Islam is a glad tiding only if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth. If this is not the case, the book is a made up one and there is no Allah - at least not like described in the Quran. In this case Islam probably is the worst thing which has ever happened to humanity. For one thing a religion basically negative to all non-religious knowledge, and thus fundamentally a stagnant culture. And for another a powerful hate and war religion run amuck. The numbers we have seen of victims actively killed by Muslims varies from 150 million to 250 million, with the higher most likely, f.x. because only in the old India (now Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh) the number as far as we can find out was some 100 million, and also Africa was in the high millions. In these numbers are not included the ones who died from illness, hunger, etc. and the victims of slave hunting - which only in Africa can have been as high as 90 - 100 million (though Encyclopedia Britannica says that only some 15 million reached the Arab areas alive - especially the march through the Sahara took a horrendous toll).

Yes, a glad tiding.

301 9/113a: "It is not fitting, for the Prophet (Muhammad*) and those who believe (Muslims*) that they should pray forgiveness for Pagans - - -". In the NT it is not fitting not to pray forgiveness for everybody. 180 degrees between the two books - a solid proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, not to mention Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

302 9/113b: "- - - Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157e above - and the other comments under 7/157.

303 9/113c: "- - - pray - - -". See 4/77a above. (With some luck and prayer perhaps they would cease to be "companions of the fire" - if f.x Yahweh is a real god and they prayed to him. Who knows?)

304 9/113d: "- - - forgiveness - - -". Impossible unless Allah exists and is a god. Besides even if he exists and is a god, he cannot forgive anyone, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to several statements in the Quran.

305 9/114a: "And Abraham prayed for his father's forgiveness - - -". This is not mentioned in the Bible - not even indicated that there was a need for it. The story about Abraham and his father (and many others) is very different in the Bible compared to in the Quran, and one may wonder from where Muhammad got the new information, as the claimed source - his god - is wrong, as no book that full of errors, etc. is from any god.

For Abraham also see 2/124a, 2/125a, 2/127a and 2/128a above and 14/37b and 22/78c below.

306 9/114b: "And Abraham prayed for his father's forgiveness only because of a promise he had made to him". A Muslim should not pray for help to a non-Muslim. No further comments. But also see 9/113c above.

307 9/114c: "- - - prayed - - -". See 4/77a above and 11/87a below.

308 9/114d: "- - - when it became clear to him (Abraham*) that he (his father - Terah in the Bible, Azar in the Quran*) was an enemy to Allah - - -". There is nowhere in the Bible indicated that his father was opposing the god of Abraham - nowhere.

309 9/114e: "- - - when it became clear to him (Abraham*) that he (his father - Terah in the Bible, Azar in the Quran*) was an enemy to Allah, he dissociated himself from him - - -". Abraham according to the Bible (1. Mos. 12/4) lived together with his father till Abraham was 75 years old, so the "dissociation" cannot have been very strong. There also in the Bible is mentioned no religious disagreement between the two any time - nothing at all. From where did Muhammad get this new information?

For Abraham also see 2/124a, 2/125a, 2/127a and 2/128a above and 22/78c and 14/37b below.

310 9/115a: "And Allah will not mislead a people after He hath guided them - - -". Allah neither could/can mislead nor guide anyone unless he exists - and even if he should happen to exist, he cannot reliably guide someone if he uses the Quran with all its errors and contradictions, etc. as a guidebook.

311 9/115b: "- - - for Allah hath knowledge of all things". Not if he made the Quran (as for knowledge also see 22/3a below).

312 9/116a: "Unto Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth". The Bible disagrees and tells that this belongs to Yahweh.

313 9/116b: "He (Allah*) giveth life and He taketh it". That Allah and his Muslims take lives, is well known. We ourselves have received death warnings "when we find you" - it is easier to kill an opponent, than to argue, especially if one has weak argument or weak points like Muhammad's reliability.

But there never was a proved case inside or outside the Quran, anywhere in the world or any time during the full history of man, in which Allah created life. There are many claims, but not one proved case - as opposed to Yahweh and Jesus, who both proved themselves and their power in front of many witnesses, if the old books tell the truth.

314 9/116c: "Except for Him (Allah*) ye (people/Muslims*) have no protector nor helper". Again the Bible disagrees and says it is better to seek Yahweh for protection and help. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

As a "brother" of al-Takiyya and Kitman, etc., we should also mention the tradition for "Hilah": A "device to stop, hinder, or trick - - -. Stratagem to avoid or circumvent legal principles or rigid constructs. - - - utilized - - - to solve contradictions between (political powers, cultural choises, etc*) and Quranic principles". (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). In plain words: ways/tricks of seemingly or formally being honest or correct, while in reality being dishonest or incorrect. It seems that this aspect of "the religion of truth" was first campaigned of the Hanifi law school, but later utilized also by the other 3 Muslim law schools. "Hilah" is dishonesty in disguise. True honesty is not always central in Islam and among Islam's religious and moral forefront.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them. The names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?)

315 9/117a: "- - - the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157e above - and the other comments under 7/157.

316 9/117b: "- - - He (Allah*) is unto them (early Muslims*) Most Kind, Most Merciful". A parallel to 9/118b below.

317 9/118a: "- - - the three left behind - - -". This refers to an episode connected to the war expedition to Tabuk (Oct. 630 AD). Muhammad gave them a psychologically harsh and strict punishment, even though these 3 were honest, whereas the ones who lied god no punishment.

But how could this end up in the Quran written at least billions of years ago, according to Islam if Allah does not practice 100% predestination? And if Allah by means of his predestination had forced the 3 to be behind, how could then Muhammad punish the men for it?

318 9/118b: "- - - there is no fleeing from Allah - - -". If Allah does not exist, there is no reason for fleeing. And if he exists, but is no god, there is very limited reason for fleeing. But if he exists and belongs to the dark forces, one had better try - according to the Bible Yahweh may be a good helper in case.

319 9/118c: "- - - Allah is - - - Oft-Returning, Most Merciful - - -". Please read the surahs from Medina - f.x. about treatment of non-Muslims - and afterwards think over if you agree.

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them, the names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

320 9/119a: "Fear Allah - - -". Why do so when the reality behind the Quran plus the real fact that Allah never in any way or any place or any time has manifested himself except in the mouth of Muhammad, in practice prove that he does not exist, or at least is no major god?

If this is the case - that Allah just is a made up pagan god - this means that he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by parents, Muslim clergy, Islamic compulsion, and the disproved claim that the Quran is from a god and tells the truth and only the truth.

321 9/119b: "- - - those who are true (in word and deed) (here = Muslims*)". A bit special claim for people living in a religion which in wide topics accepts the use of dishonesty both in words and deeds. The Bible, and specially NT is much stricter on honesty than the Quran - and Jesus much stricter on it than Muhammad.

322 9/120a: "It was not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs of the neighborhood, to refuse to follow Allah's Messenger (note the wording - Muhammad knew his psychology*), nor to prefer their own lives to his - - -". This refers to the expedition of war to Tabuk (Oct. 630 AD). Try to find similar words from Jesus to people refusing to follow him into war! One of the strong proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not serve neither the same god, nor the same religion.

324 9/120b: "- - - Allah's Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A variety of Muhammad's most used mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, his god. At least false prophets often used (and still use) their god like this.

Besides no omniscient god ever sent a messenger preaching that many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, etc. like Muhammad did. Actually no god ever used a representative telling so many wrong facts, contradictions, cases invalid logic, etc. like Muhammad. And no good and benevolent god ever used as his representative and prophet/messenger a brutal and bloody robber baron like Muhammad, so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you" like Muhammad did - - - and no god of "a religion of the truth" could use one who accepted the use of and himself used lies - even a few(?) in the Quran - deceit, and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

325 9/120c: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad') - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

326 9/120d: "- - - righteousness - - - do good - - -". See 2/21b above.

327 9/120e: "- - - the Cause of Allah". See 2/190a+b and 2/244a above and 29/2 below. But was it really the cause of Allah? - may be the cause of the warlord Muhammad? Remember here that the chances for that Allah exists according to the realities around the Quran and around Allah, etc. is practically nil.

328 9/120f: "- - - Allah suffereth not the reward to be lost for those who do good". Allah can do nothing about this unless he exists and in addition is a god (which the Bible indirectly, but very clearly says he is not - and which the reality around the Quran, etc. confirms).

329 9/120g: "- - - do good - - -". See 2/21b above.

330 9/121a: "- - - (- - - the Cause (of Allah*)) - - -". See 2/190a+b and 2/244a above and 29/2 below. But was it really the cause of Allah? - may be the cause of the warlord Muhammad?

331 9/121b: "- - - Allah may requite their (Muslims'*) deed with the best (possible reward)". See 9/120f just above.

332 9/122a: This about war strategy definitely is very different from Jesus' words. One more proof for that Jesus and Muhammad did not serve the same god, did not belong in the same religion or moral code, and absolutely did not belong to the same god's line of prophets.

333 9/122b: "- - - (- - - evil)". See 2/21b above.

334 9/123a: "Fight the Unbelievers who gird you (Muslims*) about and let them find firmness in you - - -". For comparison Jesus' words: "Turn the other cheek" (Matt. 5/39), "Love your enemies" (Matt. 5/44). No further comments necessary. But one of the absolute proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not serve the same god, did not belong in the same religion or moral code, and absolutely did not belong to the same god's line of prophets.

335 9/123b: "- - - Allah is with those who fear Him". Allah is with no-one unless he exists, and with very few unless he is something supernatural, good or bad.

336 9/123c: "- - - fear Him (Allah*)". See 9/119a above.

337 9/124: "Whenever there comet down a surah - - -". Never in the entire Bible there are mentioned surahs or similar coming down. Prophets received messages (though in other ways which Muhammad claimed), but not long texts to be memorized. The one exception is the Laws of Moses, and even that one was much shorter than the Quran, and a special case.

Besides: Did they really come down? - and in case from whom, as no god ever was involved in a book of that quality?

338 9/125: "- - - those in whose hearts are disease - - -". Non-Muslims = people in whose heart is disease. Who wants to associate with such people? And what bad is there in suppressing or killing them?

339 9/126: "See they (non-Muslims*) not that they are tried - - -". But if Allah sees and knows everything like the Quran states many places, why then does he have to test everybody - even his followers? Claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and he thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc. + Islamic compulsion): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

340 9/127a: "Whenever there comet down a surah - - -". See 9/124 above.

#341 9/127b: "- - - Allah hath turned their (non-Muslims*) hearts (from the light) - - -". How much religious light is there in a book like the Quran? - full of mistakes, etc. etc., plus apartheid, dishonesty, hate and blood, and with a partly horrible moral code, and not from any god. And for that case; How much light is there in a religion built on such a book?

342 9/127c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) are a people that understands not". See 9/11d above.

343 9/128a: "- - - a Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c above - and the other comments under 7/157.

344 9/128b: "- - - to the Believers (Muslims*) he (Muhammad*) is most kind and merciful". Compare him to Jesus and see if you agree. This even more so as Muhammad just was "most kind and merciful" to Muslims.

Just to mention it: The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are some of them, the names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the cheap, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

345 9/129a: "- - - there is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". The Bible says there is no god but Yahweh.

346 9/129b: "- - - on Him (Allah*) is my (Muhammad's/Muslims'*) trust - - -". Rather risky if Allah does not exist or is no god.

347 9/129c: "- - - He (Allah*) the Lord of the Throne (of Glory) Supreme!". According to the Bible this throne belongs to Yahweh, whereas Allah is no god at all - if he is not lumped together with the false gods mentioned here and there in the Bible.

Subtotal: 347 + 3142 = 3489 comments.

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This work was uploaded with assistance from M. A. Khan, the author of Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism and Slavery, and the editor of islam-watch.org website.