Bible versus Quran: 1000+ Differences & Contradictions


The Quran: Its Divergence from the Bible

Surah 3: Al 'Imran (The Family of Imran)

Medina 625 AD.


001 3/2a: "There is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". According to the Bible the only god is Yahweh. Besides if Allah does not exist or for other reasons is no god, he is not a god. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved, may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so, and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. The "Signs" (read "proofs") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or something else central in his religion.)

002 3/2b: "- - - (Allah is*) the Living, the Self-Subsisting, Eternal". Not possible unless he exists and is a god. The claim that he is "the Living" is extra ironic, as the empirical and especially the circumstantial proofs for that he never existed, are so strong that any unbiased court had judged that he only is a rumor kept alive by a made up book, the production of which no god ever has been involved in - proved by far too many mistaken facts, etc. and by far too low quality for being the product of a god. (The "wrapping paper" - the Arab linguistics - is ok, but the rest is of deplorable quality - just ask any unbiased professor of literature, and for that case of science, history, or astronomy (too many such mistakes in the Quran)).

003 3/3a: "It is He (Allah*) Who sent down - - - (step by step), in truth, the Book (here the Quran*) - - -". No omniscient god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.

Also see 2/176b above.

004 3/3b: "It is He (Allah*) Who sent down to thee (Muhammad*) (step by step), in truth, the Book (here the Quran*) - - -". No omniscient god ever used a representative telling so much wrong facts, etc. like Muhammad did. And no good and benevolent god ever could use such a harsh and bloody robber baron for a representative. Not to mention that no god of a religion of the truth could use a man who practiced and accepted dishonesty - lying and thieving/looting - betrayal and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a) as working tools.

Also see 2/176b above.

005 3/3c: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

#006 3/3d: "- - - the Book (the Quran*), confirming what went before it (= the Bible and other Jewish scriptures*) - - -". This is a very central claim in Islam, because if this claim is not true, the Quran is a proved falsification and Muhammad a false prophet. But there are so many and so fundamental differences of the facts between the Bible and the Quran and also between the teachings in them, that the Quran is no confirmation of the Bible. Read the two books yourself, and you will see the impossibility in the claim. (Remember that Muhammad's never documented claim that the Bible is a falsified copy of the Quran, strongly is proved wrong both by science and - against their will - by Islam. The circumstantial and empirical proofs against the claim are so strong, that no unbiased court in the entire world would accept that claim.) Also see 2/75 above.

#007 3/3e: "- - - He (Allah*) sent down - - - the Law (of Moses) - - -". According to the Bible this was sent down by Yahweh, not by Allah.

There also seems to be another black spot - a Kitman (lawful half-truth) - here. According to our sources the original Arab text here says "the Torah (the 5 Books of Moses*)", not the "the Law". According also the Bible Moses got the Law - verbally - from the god (but Yahweh, not Allah), but the Law only is parts of those 5 books. The full "Books of Moses" - the Torah - are centuries younger and written by humans. But why be honest when a small lawful dishonesty makes the Quran look more right? - such dishonesty is permitted by Islam "if necessary" to defend or promote the religion.

008 3/3f: "- - - He (Allah*) sent down - - - the Gospel (of Jesus) - - -". Just for the record: Muhammad claimed the Gospels (there are 4, not one) were sent down, and sent down so early that Jesus read them in his early age. In reality they were not sent down, but written by 4 different men from 25 years or a bit more after Jesus' death and up. They may have been inspired by the god, but here it is not possible to doubt that it in case was by Yahweh, not by Allah, as we now are deep inside the times of written history in the area, and thus know for sure a lot about history and religion in the Roman Empire around that time. There never was a book similar to the Quran, a god like Allah, or a religion like Islam even mentioned at the time of Jesus, in the entire Roman Empire, not to mention in Israel. It is easy from historical documents to prove that Muhammad here falsified history - likely because he did not know that history, neither the political, nor the religious one.

Another point is that a Gospel is the story of Jesus birth, life, death, resurrection, and ascension to Heaven - something Muhammad seems not to have known (there were not too many Christians in his area) - so that they impossibly could have been written until all his had happened.

We may add that the Arab original of the Quran only says "the Gospel" - the words "(of Jesus)" are added by Yusuf Ali. Jesus had no Gospel.

#009 3/3g: "- - - the Criterion - - -". The meaning unclear - the Quran frequently is unclear. Perhaps it is meant the 10 commandments. But also perhaps it her is meant the claimed "original gospel Jesus was sent", according to the Quran, and which the Quran and Islam talk about like this was a fact, and with the additional Islamic claim that it existed, but has now disappeared. A very easy explanation. But for one thing as mentioned above, a Gospel (= Evangelion in Greek - some Muslims talk like Gospel and Evangelion are different things) is the story of Jesus' birth, life, death, resurrection, and ascension to Heaven, and naturally could not be written until after this had happened. (F.x. to claim Jesus was sent the Gospel, like the Quran claims, is an impossibility. There is a possibility that there has existed an older Gospel which was model for the 3 first (so-called synoptic) Gospels in the Bible, But for very natural reasons also this could not have been written until after things had happened (and thus impossible for the child or youth Jesus to read, but such an earlier Gospel would bring the written source even closer in time to what happened, and thus even more reliable) - and Muslims NEVER mention the other possibility: That the oldest of those 3 Gospels perhaps was model for the 2 others.

010 3/3h: "- - - (- - - right and wrong) - - -". See 2/21b above.

011 3/4a: "Then those who reject Faith (Islam*) - - - will suffer the severest penalty - - -". According to the Bible the ones of them following Yahweh will be safe, whereas the ones not - included Muslims - may be in difficulties.

012 3/4b: "- - - Faith in the Signs of Allah - - -". It is not possible to have faith in something one positively knows do not exists - there is not one single sign in the entire world or the entire history of man, provably done Allah. And when people are trying to use invalid signs for proofs - which is what the Quran does all the time - all experience from life tells that a deception is going on. Without exception all the claimed "signs" and "proofs" in the Quran are invalid as proofs, because Muhammad NEVER proved they really were caused by Allah.

013 3/4c: "- - - the Signs of Allah - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

014 3/4d:: "- - - Allah is Exalted in Might - - -". He in case never provably has showed that might. Besides according to the Bible the only one really exalted in might is Yahweh.

015 3/4e: "- - - Allah is - - - Lord of Retribution - - -". For a comparison: Yahweh is the lord of love, according to the Bible.

016 3/5: "From Allah, verily nothing is hidden on earth or in the heavens (plural and wrong*)". Not possible unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which has ever been proved. Besides: If he knows everything, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc.): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

Also see 29/2 below.

017 3/6a: "It is He (Allah*) Who shapes you (people*) in the womb - - -". Not unless he exists and has the power. Also according to science this is done by nature. One of Muhammad's many, many never documented claims - the hallmark of cheats and deceivers. Also see 16/78 below.

018 3/6b: "There is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". According to the Bible, there is no god but Yahweh. Only one of the books can be right. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are just built on other not proved claims (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus states that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoided and explained away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Also see 16/78 and 45/13a below.

019 3/6c: "- - - (Allah is*) the Exalted in Might - - -". He in case never provably has showed that might. Besides according to the Bible the only one really exalted in might is Yahweh.

020 3/6d: "- - - (Allah is*) - - - the Wise". Not if he delivered the Quran.

021 3/7a: "It is He (Allah*) Who has sent down - - - the Book (the Quran*) - - -". No god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.

022 3/7b: "It is He (Allah*) Who has sent down to thee (Muhammad*) the Book (the Quran*) - - -". See 2/176b and 3/3b above.

###023 3/7c: "- - - in it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book (here the Quran*): Others are allegorical". The Quran mostly uses plain prose, and to a much lesser degree than Jesus allegories, etc. Worth remembering when Muslims try to explain away any number of mistakes, contradiction, unclear language, etc. by claiming they are allegories, parables, or similar.

Also see f.x. 3/7d+e, 11/1a, 15/1b, 18/2a, 24/34b, 28/2 36/69d and 43/4 below.

####024 3/7ca: "But those (persons*) in whose hearts is perversity - - - (are*) - - - searching for its (the Quran's*) hidden meaning - - -". One of the most used ways for Islam/Muslims to explain away errors, etc. is to claim the Quran at that/those point(s) does not mean what the text(s) say(s), but that the real meaning is a hidden meaning they can explain.

No comments - and none necessary.

####025 3/7d: "But those (persons*) in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof (of the Quran*) that is allegorical - - -". Similar to 3/7a just above, but stronger. To claim a clear point in the Quran is an allegory and then act or believe accordingly, means you are perverse, according to this verse. But this is a standard method for Islam and for Muslims to "explain" away mistakes and difficult points in the Quran. 

Also see f.x. 3/7c above and 3/7e, 11/1a, 15/1b, 18/2a, 24/34b, 28/2, 36/69d and 43/4 below.

####026 3/7e: "- - - no one knows its (the Quran's*) hidden meanings except Allah". Worth remembering when Muslims try to explain away mistakes, etc. by claiming that the obvious meaning is not the correct one, but that there is a hidden meaning behind the words, and they in their intelligence can explain you what the clumsy Allah has been unable to express clearly. Only Allah knows the hidden meanings, it says here - are they Allah? (Besides who are able to believe that an omniscient god speaks so clumsily and unclear that good humans have to "explain what he really means" hundreds and more times in a short book (a little smaller than NT)?). Also see f.x. 3/7b+c, 11/1a, 15/1b, and 18/2a below.

Also see f.x. 3/7c+d above and 11/1a, 15/1b, 18/2a, 24/34b, 28/2, 36/69d and 43/4 below.

##027 3/7f: "- - - knowledge - - -". Everything before Islam is void of knowledge and wisdom (wisdom = the ability to use your knowledge and to use your brain and logic) and guidance according to Islam - the period even officially is named "the Times of Ignorance", even though f.x. Greece and Persia had a lot higher level of knowledge than the old Arabs. This claimed ignorance includes knowledge of the Bible, as that book is claimed falsified and "because of that" differs from the Quran. (Proved wrong).

Beware that Islam divided knowledge in two: "Islamic knowledge" = knowledge about or relevant to the religion of Islam, and "foreign knowledge" = all other knowledge and science and philosophy/thinking. For many and long centuries only "Islamic knowledge" was accepted, and "foreign knowledge" was strongly discredited, opposed, and at times and places even punishable (a main reason why the Muslim area fell behind when modern times started).

Islam stopped accepting the value of knowledge which was not related to the religion of Islam - "foreign knowledge". Muslims stopped listening to the non-religious scholars and the thinkers - except the ones instructing religion-related stuff - and strayed from wide fields of knowledge - - - and stagnated. (Knowledge not related to Islam became disregarded in Islam and stayed so for a thousand years, with the result that the culture stagnated and was overtaken in knowledge and power by Europe. We are sometimes thinking about what the world had been like if this had not happened, and Islam had marched on to an industrial revolution with the power and military strength that had meant. With the Quran's orders for spreading the religion, many Muslim's lust for loot, rape, slaves, and power, the 4 Islamic "schools" of law unison in the point of view that if the opponent was non-Muslim, this was enough reason to declare "holy war" - jihad - and with caliphs' lust for power and loot and extra tax - jizya and land tax - every part of the Earth had been under Islam today. And f.x. slavery had not been abolished - slavery is or at least was ok until western ideas were introduced and western power and thoughts stopped it - as Muhammad took and kept slaves, included for sexual use, it of course was/is ok, good moral, and "lawful and good".

To be exact: "Foreign knowledge" was opposed more or less from the start of Islam, and the religious conservatives won the battle. In the central and eastern parts of the Muslim area the 1095 AD book "On the Inconsistence of the Philosophers" by "the greatest Muslim after Muhammad", al-Ghazali, marked the end of non-religious thinking and science. In the west it took another century - the year 1198 AD is often mentioned as the end.

Muhammad was clever at understanding and manipulating people. Those who did not accept his claims without asking for proofs were "without knowledge". And who wanted to belong to the ones without knowledge? - especially the proud warriors without education and knowledge would like to be reckoned among the wise ones. 

As for "lawful and good": Surah 8/69 in the Quran: (Allah/Muhammad says:) "But (now) enjoy what ye (Muslims*) took (= stole*) in war (valuables, captives, slaves (as for raping girls and women Muhammad in Hadiths says coitus interrupts is not advisable, because it is for Allah to decide whether there shall be a child afterwards or not)), lawful and good". That this has to be done in the name of Allah (during/after a "holy" war) makes this immoral extra despiceable. An extreme proof for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion, the same moral code, the same code of conduct, the same code concerning honesty in words and deeds, etc., not to mention had the same point of view on Jesus words: "Do to others like you would have them do to you" (Luke 6/31). Add this to what we know of historical facts, included about religions, from this part of the Roman Empire at the time of Jesus, and there only is one conclusion possible: Except for the monotheism - whoever said/says the basic thoughts and teaching and religion of Jesus ever were even distantly related to the teaching, etc. of Muhammad, simply did/does not know what he/she was/is talking about - or he/she is using an al-Taqiyya (a lawful lie - accepted in Islam (but in no other of the big religions) for several wide purposes (f.x. to cheat women), and advised to use "if necessary" to defend or promote Islam). The claim that they were in the same line of prophets, we do not even bother to comment on here. 

As a "brother" of al-Takiyya and Kitman, etc., we should also mention the tradition for "Hilah": A "device to stop, hinder, or trick - - -. Strategm to avoid or circumvent legal prinsiples or rigid constructs. - - - utilized - - - to solve contradictions between (political powers, cultural choises, etc*) and Quranic principles". (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). In plain words: ways/tricks of seemingly or formally being honest or correct, while in reality being dishonest or incorrect. It seems that this aspect of "the religion of truth" was first campained of the Hanifi law school, but later utilized also by the other 3 Muslim law schools. "Hilah" is dishonesty in disguice. True honesty is not always central in Islam and among Islam's religious and moral forefront.

028 3/7g: "- - - none will grasp the Message (the Quran*) except men of understanding". Who will like to be classified as "not wise men", and who will not like to be classified among "wise men" - "men of understanding" - especially if they are naive, primitive, and not too wise? - Muhammad knew psychology and how to handle or manipulate people. Also see 16/67 below.

029 3/7h: "- - - Message (the Quran*) - - -". Is it a message? - and in case from whom, as no god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran? 3 possible alternatives: 1): The dark forces. 2): A mental illness (like TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy). 3): One or more cold human brain(s) - f.x. Muhammad's.)

And no good and benevolent god would be behind acceptance of dishonesty and the harsh, hateful, apartheid religion of war you find in the Quran, especially in the surahs from Medina.

Also see 45/13a below.

030 3/8a: "- - - Thou (Allah*) hath guided us (Muslims*) - - -". Allah can guide nobody unless he exists and is a god - and the Bible, indirectly but clearly, tells he is not a god, not unless he is one of the made up pagan ones. And as the Quran is not from any god, the Bible may be right here.

031 3/8b: "- - - mercy from Thine (Allah's*) - - -". See 2/160c above.

032 3/8c: "- - - Thou (Allah*) art the Grantor - - -". According to the Bible the only grantor of anything is Yahweh, not Allah.

033 3/8d: "Thou (Allah*) art the Grantor of bounties without measure (Paradise*)". According to the Bible it is Yahweh who is the grantor for this. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

034 3/9a: "Our (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*)!". Not possible unless he exists and - well - is a god - and till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god.

035 3/9b: "Thou (Allah*) art He that will gather mankind together against a Day (of Doom*) about which there is no doubt". According to the Bible, it is Yahweh, not Allah who is going to do this. Both books cannot be correct on this point. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran).

036 3/9c: "- - - a Day (of Doom*) about which there is no doubt". There is no doubt that once there will come a last day for man. But there are every reason for doubt for that it will be like claimed in a book flooded by errors and worse, and not with a god to foretell the future.

037 3/9d: "- - - Allah never fails in His promise". This is a very open question. For one thing not even the very existence of Allah is proved - and what are cheap words worth if he does not exist and/or is not a god? For another thing there never was a proved case of Allah giving a promise, not to mention keeping a promise. If there ever had been such a proved case, Islam had told about it loudly and often. Also see 16/78 below.

Besides: As the Quran and all its mistakes are not from any god, who is making the promises on Allah's behalf in that book? - and are the promises worth anything at all with no god behind them? 

038 3/10a: "- - - Faith - - -". In the Quran faith means belief in the teaching of the Quran. In the Bible it means belief in the teaching of the Bible. The teachings are so different and so fundamentally different, that they are not from the same god - this in spite of Muhammad's never documented claims. Thus maximum one of those faiths can be true.

039 3/10b: "- - - (nothing*) will avail them aught against Allah - - -". This will be of no consequence if Allah does not exist like all the errors etc. in the Quran indicate. Besides the Bible tells that Yahweh will avail quite a lot for his followers.

040 3/10c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) are themselves but fuel for the Fire (Hell*)". According to the Bible at least non-Muslims following Yahweh are safe. Others, included Muslims, may be in trouble that way, according to the same book.

041 3/11a: "- - - they (Pharaoh Ramses II and his people*) denied Our (intended to mean Allah's*) Signs - - -". According to the Bible the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah. And we may remind you that no traces from the god Allah or a religion similar to Islam or even quotes from a book like the Quran has ever been found anywhere in the world, older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission.

042 3/11b: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

043 3/11c: "- - - Allah called them (Pharaoh Ramses II and his people*) to account - - -". See 3/11a above.

044 3/11d: "- - - sins - - -". See 2/21b above.

045 3/11e: "- - - Allah is strict in punishment". Allah can punish - or reward - nobody unless he exists and is a god, neither of which has ever been proved - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god.

046 3/12: "Soon will ye (non-Muslims*) be vanquished and gathered together and driven into Hell". See 3/10c above.

047 3/13a: "- - - a Sign - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

048 3/13b: "- - - one (army*) was fighting in the cause of Allah - - -". This verse is not from the Bible to say the least of it - and for more reasons than that it refers to the battle of Badr./p>

In the Bible there never are armed fighting in the cause of Yahweh. There were fighting in OT, but not for the god, and in NT Jesus abhorred it. One of the many proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion (not to mention in the same line of prophets - or "prophet").

049 3/13c: "- - - the cause of Allah - - -". See 2/190a+b and 2/244a above and 29/2 below.

050 3/13d: "But Allah doth support with His aid whom He pleaseth". Not unless he exists and is a god - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. And it is remarkable that in all history of man there has not been on proved case of Allah supporting anyone at all - not even this battle is a military mystery needing a god, and definitely with no proved support from a god.

051 3/13e: "In this (the victory at Badr*) is a warning - - -". It is a warning everybody should remember: Fanatics - no matter what kind - are dangerous to fight with, so be extra prepared.

052 3/14: "- - - in nearness to Allah is the best of goals (to return to)". Only if Allah exists and is a god - and till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Besides the Bible tells that Yahweh is the only worthy and wise goal.

053 3/15a: "- - - glad tidings (Islam and the Quran*) - - -". Is a religion preaching lawful dishonesty, suppression, discrimination, rape, hate, war, etc. a glad tiding? - except perhaps for those permitted to steal, rape, suppress, and take slaves?

054 3/15b: "- - - the righteous (here meant good Muslims*) - - -". See 2/21b above.

055 3/15c: "- - - Gardens - - -". Islam tells there are 4 or 6 or more Gardens (at least 4 according to 55/46+62 in the Quran) - one better than the other (but only like a poor, naive, and uneducated primitive desert warrior's dream of a king's lazy luxury life on Earth) - in Paradise. This you do not find in the Bible. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, the Paradise had been the same.

One point the Quran never explains, is how it is possible for you to have your family around you like the Quran promises, if not all of them qualifies for the same heaven or garden? Your son and daughter qualify for garden number 1 and 3 respectively, your wife for number 2, whereas you yourself were killed in the Battle of Tours in 732 AD and qualify for Firdaws. How to collect your family around you, like the Quran states is a fact?

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

##056 3/15d: "- - - Companions pure - - -". The famous houris - up to 72 for each warrior according to Hadiths (+ wives and concubines from this life, but they hardly counts in this Paradise). The Quran's Paradise is extremely different from the one you find in the Bible. In the Quran plenty of Earth-like top luxury + plenty of women/sex - the ultimate dream a primitive desert warrior was capable of. In the Bible one becomes like the angels - f.x. Luke 20/35-36. (Which of the Paradises do you prefer? And which one is worthy a god?) One of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, if the old books tell the truth.

We may add that the idea of houris (and of serving, handsome youths - handsome plenty enough to tempt homosexuals (not said in the Quran) Muhammad "borrowed" from the Zoroastrian religion (Persia), and the same for the 4 rivers in Paradise). Nearly no thoughts or ideas are original in the Quran - more or less everything is "borrowed" from religions and cultures in and around Arabia at the time of Muhammad. A pertinent question here: Would an omniscient god aiming for all the world, need to borrow all his ideas from primitive Arabia and its neighbors? - and only from the time of Muhammad?

As for the houris: In most religions and cultures forced prostitution is reckoned to be something immoral and dirty.

057 3/15e: "For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants (here Muslims*) - - -". The unavoidable fact: Not possible unless he exists and is something supernatural, god or bad - and till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god.

058 3/16a: "- - - forgive us (Muslims*) - - -". Allah cannot do this unless he exists and is a god - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Besides even if he exists and is a god, he cannot forgive anyone, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to several statements in the Quran. According to the Bible the only one who can forgive, is Yahweh. (Also see 2/285e above.)

059 3/16b: "- - - sin - - -". See 2/21b above.

060 3/17a: "- - - true (in word and deed) - - -". See 2/26 above.

061 3/17b: "- - - (Muslims*) who worship devoutly; who spend (in the way of Allah) - - -". No use unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which has ever been proved. See 3/15e above.

062 3/17ba: "- - - spend (in the way of Allah) - - -". This and similar expressions you will find several places in the Quran. It mainly means help to the poor and help to finance - and often take part in -Muhammad's raids and wars. Jesus wanted charity to the poor, but there their agreement stopped on this. Two entirely different gods, two entirely different "holy" books, two entirely different - to the second or third power at least - religious leaders in totally different religions. (If any Muslim or Islam disagrees on any of these points, let them bring proofs - but proofs, not claims.

063 3/17c: "- - - pray - - -". If Allah does not exist - like all the mistakes in the Quran in practice proves - and/or for other reasons is not a god, like the Bible indirectly but clearly tells, and which the fact that Allah never in any way or place or time provably has proved or manifested himself except in the mouth of Muhammad, shows - then to what avail are prayers to Allah? Not to mention: If Allah predestines every detail in your life long before it happen, and this according to his Plan which nobody and nothing can change, then prayers are of no use - nothing can change Allah's Plan.

ABOUT PRAYERS IN ISLAM:

What is the idea of prayers in Islam, when Allah according to several verses and places in the Quran predestines everything, and predestines it according to his Plan which "nobody and nothing can change"? If nobody and nothing can change what Allah has decided a long time before, also prayers can change nothing, and just are a waste of time and effort - and a cheating argument from Muhammad/the Quran/Islam. (According to the Bible prayers are not for Allah - not for Allah at all, and especially not so if he is a made up god. Prayers should be to Yahweh, it says).

Honestly, if man is created by a god, the second greatest gift he got after life itself, is the brain. And for one thing a god in case did not give man a good brain unless he intended it to be used. And for another it must be an insult towards the god if man refuses to use his brain - the great gift from the god if that is the case - or if f.x. for imams and others deny people to use their brains ("believe what we religious leaders tell you"). Thus not to think over impossibilities like "Allah predestines absolutely everything according to his Plan which nobody and nothing can change, but man has free - or partly free - will", or "Allah predestines absolutely everything according to his Plan which nobody and nothing can change, but pray to Allah, and the prayers may change his Plan and make life better or easier for you". If you do not use your brain and think over such hopeless logic and impossibilities, it is an insult to the great gift, your brain. And it is no less big an insult to the one who gave you that brain, if your brain is a gift from a god - his gift is not worth using, you in case tell him.

But one serious conclusion is: Because of total predestination according to the Quran, prayers cannot have any effect in Islam. If Muslims disagree, they will have to prove how it can be possible to combine total predestination, like very clearly expressed in the Quran + Allah's unchangeable Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to as clear words in the Quran, with any effect of prayers.

AND WE ADD ABOUT REGULAR PRAYERS:

Such formalities were totally uninteresting for Yahweh and for Jesus - pray when there was a reason, a need, or a wish for it. For Allah on the other hand it was so central, that he(?) made it one of the 5 "pillars" on which Islam rests. One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, this rule had been the same in the two books.

We may add that there nowhere in the Bible - OT or NT - is a request or an order for regular prayers in the meaning Muhammad had in those words. On the contrary Jesus says: "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to the Father (Yahweh*), who is unseen. Then the Father, who sees the unseen, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like the pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words" (Matt. 6/6-7), (Cfr. here Islam's weight-laying on the number of "rakas" - repeated formal movements and words.*). In the Bible the best place to pray is in your room in closeness to your god. In the Quran (Hadiths) a prayer is worth up to 20 times as much if it is prayed in a group. NB: Just this small detail, but big difference, is yet another 100% and more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - not by far.

064 3/17d: "- - - forgiveness - - -". Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god. Besides even if he exists and is a god, he cannot forgive anyone, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to several statements in the Quran. And if he even after this - if he existed - would forgive good Muslims, depends entirely on if his religion is reasonably correct described among all the mistakes, contradictions, etc., etc. in the Quran - a book which itself by means of all its errors, etc. proves 110% and more that it is not from any god.

065 3/18a: "There is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". The Bible says there is no god but Yahweh. Maximum one of them can be true.

Also see 16/78 and 45/13a below.

066 3/18b: "- - - those endued with knowledge - - -". Muhammad as said knew at least elementary psychology: Who among primitive, uneducated, and naive desert dwellers and warriors would not like to be reckoned among the ones with wisdom, and who would risk being marked and socially stigmatized as persons without wisdom?

Muhammad knew how to handle people.

(But who really is wise? - the one blindly and naively believing in a book choke full of mistakes and worse, and thus clearly not from a god? - or the one able to see at least some of those mistakes, and also able to understand what they mean?)

067 3/18c: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 22/3a below.

068 3/18d: "- - - justice - - -". See 2/21b above.

069 3/18e: "- - - He (Allah), the Exalted in Power - - -". He in case never provably has showed that power. Besides according to the Bible the only one really exalted in power is Yahweh.

070 3/18f: "- - - Allah is - - - Wise". Not if he delivered the Quran.

######071 3/19a: "The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will): nor did the People of the Book (Jews, Christians, Sabeans*) dissent therefrom except through envy of each other - - -". This is very far from what the Bible tells. According to the Bible the Jews and later the Christians and Sabeans submitted to Yahweh - a very different god and a very different book - from as far back as the Bible reaches. In a way it is true they did not dissent - they never were Muslims or similar according to the Bible, and thus could not split off from that religion (which by the way is much younger than the ones following the Bible - neither science nor Islam has been able to find the smallest trace of Islam older than 610 AD). Also all science names it the youngest of the big religions.

But there is another and essential fact here: One thing is to blame Abraham, Moses, and Aaron for being Muslims. What information exists, shows that such claims highly unlikely are correct - strong enough for circumstantial proofs against it, but the information is not "hard" enough for mathematical strength proofs. But when we come to the time of Jesus and later, the situation is different. In this part of the world and of the Roman Empire we then are deep inside the times of written history, and we know a lot about also religion and culture there. What f.x. is absolute sure is that there nowhere in or around what is now Israel - or for that case in the entire Roman Empire - at that time or later existed a religion of any consequence like Islam or a god like Allah - not until after 610 AD when Muhammad started Islam. Not anywhere and at no time in the area of written history before or later until Muhammad's followers started their wars of conquest. These are hard facts and the proofs are of both empirical and mathematical strength. There f.x. is clear documentation for what the early Christianity was, and it was nowhere like Islam - not by a long shot.

The old documents and written historical knowledge prove with empirical and sometimes mathematical strength that there was no notable religion like Islam and no god like Allah revered in the relevant areas neither at the time of Jesus, nor in the early Christianity, nor later until after 630 AD (the year Muhammad gained total power in central Arabia). Neither is there even one trace or quotation from any book similar to the Quran older than 610 AD (the year Muhammad started Islam). Thus all claims saying Jesus or his disciples or early or later Christians ever were Muslims or something similar, are wrong. This also automatically implicates that they never had or lived according to a Quran, and that they thus also never falsified a Quran into the Bible - or dissented from Islam. These are provable, historical facts.

All claims for that Jesus or his disciples or the early - or later - Christians were Muslims or even something similar, thus are provably wrong. Historical facts.

072 3/19b: "- - - (- - - His (Allah's*) Will - - -) - - -". This does not exist unless Allah exists.

073 3/19c: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 22/3a below.

#074 3/19d: "- - - nor did the people of the Book (Jews, Christians, Sabeans*) dissent therefrom (Islam*) except through envy of each other - - -". Again Muhammad’s never documented claim that the original religion was Islam, but that the bad Jews and Christians had falsified it to get a better life here on Earth (but never explaining how the Bible could give a better life than the Quran, with its permission to dishonesty, stealing/robbing/ etc.). Muslims NEVER mention that it is a historical fact that there never in all the world was found a single trace from a book like the Quran, a god like Allah, or a religion like Islam. And they also never mention that in what we now call the Middle East the written history goes back to perhaps 1ooo BC - clay tablets even from 2ooo-3ooo BC are found - and there never was a word about such a god or book or religion. The same goes for the hieroglyphs in Egypt - going back to perhaps 2ooo - 3ooo BC, and for the very old scriptures in China (remember that Muhammad claimed Islam was the original religion all over the world), and for cave paintings going back tens of thousands of years. Not one trace. Also see 2/75a+b above.

Islam will have to bring some strong proofs to be believed.

075 3/19e: "- - - Signs of Allah - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

076 3/19f: "Allah is swift in calling to account". Impossible unless he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad - be especially careful if he in case belongs to the dark forces.

#077 3/20a: "I (Muhammad/a Muslim*) have submitted my whole self to Allah - - -". Pretty risky to do on basis of a book full of mistakes, etc. and even a few(?) lies, and a book with no god behind (no god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran) - not to mention if he belongs to the dark forces.

#078 3/20b: "If they (non-Muslims*) do (become Muslims*), they are in right guidance - - -". No-one relying on a guidebook full of mistakes and worse (f.x. the use of invalid logic and the use of lies) is on right guidance, and anyone relying on a "holy" book where no god is involved, is in a made up religion.

079 3/20c: "- - - thy (Muhammad's*) duty is to convey the Message (the Quran*) - - -". Well, he conveyed it hard - by weapons and other compulsions . A stark contrast to Jesus' method. Another strong indication for that the two were not in the same religion - in spite of that the Quran wrongly claims Jesus was a good Muslim.

080 3/20d: "- - - Message (the Quran*) - - -". Is it a message? - and in case from whom, as no god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran? 3 possible alternatives: 1): The dark forces. 2): A mental illness (like TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy). 3): One or more cold human brain(s) - f.x. Muhammad's.

And no good and benevolent god would be behind acceptance of dishonesty and the harsh, hateful, apartheid religion of war you find in the Quran, especially in the surahs from Medina.

Also see 45/13a below.

081 3/20e: "For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants (here Muslims*) - - -". The unavoidable fact: Not possible unless he exists and is a something supernatural, white or black, none of which has ever been proved - and till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Also see 3/19 a above.

082 3/21a: "- - - the Signs of Allah - - -". See 4/140b and 36/33 below.

083 3/21b: "- - - right - - - just - - -". See 2/21b above.

084 3/21c: "- - - announce to them (non-Muslims*) a grievous penalty (Hell*)". Well, according to the Bible at least the followers of Yahweh are in green - whereas Muslims may be in red sector.

085 3/22: "They (non-Muslims*) are those whose works will bear no fruit in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have any helper". At least for the Jews and the Christians the Bible disagrees on both points. And both books cannot be right on this.

086 3/23a: "Those who have been given a portion of the Book - - -". The meaning of word "the Book" may be unclear in the Quran, because sometimes Muhammad meant the Bible and sometimes the Quran - one frequently have to guess from the context which book is meant. Here it refers to the Bible and to the wrong claim that the Bible was falsified, and that the Jews and Christians thus only had parts of the "original" Bible, which Muhammad claimed had been similar to his Quran. Remember the old word: "A claim without a proof can be dismissed without proofs" (and on top of this both science and Islam have proved with strong empirical and circumstantial proofs that the Bible is not falsified). "The Book of Allah" normally means the Quran, but Muhammad sometimes meant the wrongly claimed "original and not falsified" Bible. Also see 2/75a+b and 3/19a+d above.

087 3/23b: "- - - a party of them (Jews and Christians*) turn back (and refuse to accept the Quran*) - - -". Already at that time most of the followers of Yahweh saw that Yahweh and Allah far from was the same god. Also see 3/19a above.

088 3/24: "- - - their (Jews and Christians - here in Medina mainly Jews*) forgeries - - -". We are back to Muhammad's very central, but proved totally wrong, claim that the Bible originally had been a sibling or twin of the Quran, but that the bad Jews and Christians had falsified it to what it was at that time (the same as today). Both science and Islam - very much against their wish - have strongly proved that the never documented - typical for Muhammad - claim was and is wrong, by being unable to find even one proved falsification among some 44ooo (this number varies some from one source to another) relevant manuscripts and fragments older than 610 AD, when Muhammad started his mission. 

A small curiosum here: As Islam claims each prophet/messenger got a copy similar to the Quran, and as Hadiths tells there were 124ooo prophets/messengers through the times and all over the world, there must have been at least 124ooo copies of the Quran around, plus all the copies written from these ones. No-one knows how many copies there ever existed of the Bible older than 610 AD, but far fewer - mainly because they were 4-5 times as big as the Quran, and thus 4-5 times as expensive - handwritten books naturally were very expensive - and no 124ooo free copies from the god like the Quran. All the same there exist some 12ooo manuscripts (mostly of parts of the book) or fragments from the Bible + some 32ooo manuscripts or fragments with references to or quotes from texts in the Bible. For a comparison there does not exist even one fragment or one reference or one quote from the Quran in the entire world older than 610, AD when Muhammad started his new religion. Also see 2/75a+b and 3/19a+d above.

Believe in the claim about the Quran being a book older than 610 AD (really a little later) if you are able to.

089 3/25a: "But how (will they (the followers of Yahweh*) fare) when We (Allah*) gather them together against a Day (of Doom*) about which there is no doubt - - -". If the Bible is correct, it will be Yahweh who rules that day. If this is true, it will be an open question who will fare how - Yahweh's rules are different from Allah's, and much so on many points. Also see 16/78 below.

090 3/25b: "- - - injustice - - -". See 2/21b above.

091 3/26a: A number of Allah's powers - none of which proved. And all of them Yahweh's powers according to the Bible. And none of them possible unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, good or bad, none of which has ever been proved. Besides: If he knows everything, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc.): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

Also see 16/78 and 29/2 below.

092 3/26b: "- - - in Thy (Allah's*) hand is all Good". Please read the surahs from Medina, the Quran's moral, ethical, and judicial codes, etc. What is your reaction to this claim? - weep? - or laugh?

093 3/27a: "Thou (Allah*) causeth the Night to gain on the Day, and Thou causest the Day to gain on the Night - - -". According to science this is done by nature - and any god had known so, but not Muhammad. Then who made the Quran?

094 3/27b: "Thou bringest the Living out of the Dead, and the Dead out of the Living". According to the Bible this is done by Yahweh, not by Allah - and according to science it is done by nature.

095 3/27c: "Thou (Allah*) giveth sustenance - - -". Not unless he exists and is a god. Besides science tells that this is done by nature, aided some by farmers, etc.

096 3/28a: "Let not the Believers (Muslims*) take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers". This is one of the reasons why it is difficult to integrate Muslims in other societies and cultures.

097 3/28b: "- - - if any do that (see 3/28a just above*), in nothing will there be help from Allah - - -". This there will not be in any case unless Allah exists and is a god.

098 3/28c: "- - - the final goal is to Allah". According to the Bible it is to Yahweh.(We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists as the claimed "proofs" for him without exception are just built on other not proved claims (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "A claim without a proof can be dismissed without a proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or something else central in his religion.)

099 3/29a: "Whether ye (people*) hide what is in your hearts or reveal it, Allah knows it all: He knows what is in the heavens (plural and wrong*), and what is on earth". Not possible unless Allah exists and is a god, neither of which has ever been proved. Besides: If he knows everything, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests, because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc.): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

Also see 29/2 below.

100 3/29b: "And Allah hath power over all things". He in case never provably has showed that power. Besides according to the Bible the only one really powerful is Yahweh.

101 3/30a: "- - - good - - - evil - - -". See 2/21b above.

102 3/30b: "But Allah cautions you (people/Muslims*) to remember Himself (via the Quran*)". But as the Quran and all its mistakes, etc., etc. are not from any god, then who was it who in the name of Allah cautioned?

103 3/30c: "Allah is full of kindness to those who serve Him". Not possible unless he exists and is a god - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Also see 2/75a+b and 3/19a+d above and 16/78 below.

104 3/31a: "If ye (Muslims*) do love Allah, follow me (Muhammad*) - - -". A very strong version of Muhammad's mantra for gluing himself to his god and platform of power. This represents power and fanatics a Hitler, a Stalin, a Mao, and other infamous dictators only could dream about in their most utopian fantasies.

Besides:

1. No omniscient god could or would use a vice-king telling lots of wrong facts and other errors, etc. like Muhammad and the Quran do.

2. No omniscient god would use a helpless language where the believers again and again and again have to explain "what the god really means" to explain away errors, contradictions, invalid logic, etc., and especially not so in a book the god himself repeatedly and clearly tells shall be understood literally if nothing else is indicated.

3. No good and benevolent would start a religion run by a vice-king representing suppression, slave taking, rape, apartheid, fascism, murder, and war, like Muhammad.

4. No god of a religion of honesty and truth would use for his vice king a robber baron accepting or even inciting to dishonesty in deeds and words - stealing/looting, extortion, and the use of lies, half-truths, deception, and even broken words/promises/oaths (f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

105 3/31b: "If ye (Muslims*) do love Allah, follow me (Muhammad*): Allah will love you and forgive your sins - - -". Even stronger than 3/31a just above. An ironic fact it that Allah neither could love nor forgive anything or anybody unless he existed and was something supernatural, good or bad, none of which has ever been proved - and no matter: If the religion was not correctly enough described among all the errors in the Quran, maybe he simply did not even want to - if he all the same existed. Not to mention: If it is correct that he predestines everything according to his Plan which nobody and nothing can change, he cannot forgive, because this will change his Plan.

##106 3/31c: "If ye (Muslims*) do love Allah, follow me (Muhammad*): Allah will love you and forgive your sins - - -". Muhammad Asad has this comment to verses 31-33 (translated from Swedish): "Allah's acceptance can only be gained through obedience to his chosen messengers." Think how well Hitler and Pol Pot and Mao and Stalin and others had liked to have the same message from their gods like Muhammad had from his god!! An unbeatable platform of power.

107 3/31d: "- - - love - - -". A relatively seldom and relatively peripheral word in the Quran - the most central word in NT. No more comments necessary.

108 3/31e: "- - - sins - - -". See 2/21b above.

109 3/31f: "- - - Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful". The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are 2 of them. The names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft-Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the easy, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

Besides: Please read the surahs from Medina once more - and once more skip the big glorifying words and judge from the reality like deeds, demands, introduced codes of moral and behavior, etc. (reality is much more reliable than big and cheap words). How much of f.x. real mercy, etc. do you find?

An afterthought: Also read NT and compare: Who is most merciful and most forgiving, etc. of Yahweh and Allah if both books tell the truth on this point - especially if you compare the surahs from Medina - which according to Islam's rules for abrogation are the "weightiest" ones - to NT and its New Covenant?

110 3/32a: "Obey Allah and his Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". A "normally" strengthened version of Muhammad's mantra - see 3/31a+b above. Jesus on the other hand said things like: "Obey Yahweh and follow me". There is a world of difference between the two sentences - one of the many indications for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same line of anything of much consequence.

111 3/32b: "Allah loveth not those (non-Muslims*) who reject Faith (Islam*)". Allah loves nobody unless he exists. And his perhaps love is of little consequence unless he in addition is something powerful, white or black - be careful if he in case belongs to the dark forces.

112 3/33: "Allah did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, the family of 'Imran (Imran was the father of Moses, Aaron, and Miriam - - - and according to the Quran the father of Mary, mother of Jesus, some 1200 years later!!*) above all people". According to the Bible the god of all these persons was Yahweh, not Allah. When it comes to the mistake with Mary, Muslims try to explain it away with that it was another Imran, but for one thing science is in no doubt, for another ting there was no Imran around Mary, not even in "reliable" folklore, and not least: Hadiths tells that Muhammad was told about the mistake and tried to "repair" it, but found no good way. (The reason for the mistake likely was that in Arab both Mary and Miriam = Maryam, and Muhammad who knew the Bible badly, thought it was the same woman.) Also see 3/35a below.

113 3/34: "- - - Allah heareth and knoweth all things - - -". See 3/29a above.

114 3/35a: "- - - Imran's wife - - -". Here is meant the mother of Mary (mother of Jesus). Mary thus according to Muhammad was the sister of Moses and Aaron, as Imran was the father of those two. This believed relationship is strengthened by the fact that Muhammad one place in the Quran calls Mary the sister of Aaron. (Actually Muhammad seems to have mixed Mary and Miriam, the real sister of Moses and Aaron - not difficult as both Mary and Miriam are written and pronounced Maryam in Arab)

But Moses, Aaron and Miriam - and Imran - lived some 1200 years earlier.

Muslims try to explain away the mistakes, by - as normal undocumented - claims that it was another Imran, but science is in no doubt; Muhammad had very funny time lines, and mixed up those two. The fact that Hadiths tell some of his co-workers corrected him and he tried to correct the blunder, makes the science even more sure about his mix-up.

For the record: According to Christian written, but not canonized sources (f.x. the Protoevangelium of James) Mary's father was named Joachim, not Imran (and her mother Anna). We also may add that Jewish traditions at that time were that girls were betrothed at an age of around 12 years. If this was the case also for Mary, she may have been around at least 13 or older when Jesus was born, but no age is given anywhere. Also see 3/33 above.

115 3/35b: "- - - Thou (Allah*) heareth and knoweth all things - - -". See 3/29a above.

€€€116 3/35-37: These stories are not from the Bible. From where are they? Also notice how much in the Quran is written for Arabia and the conditions there at the time of Muhammad. The book is not written for the world or for all times - the claimed messengers of the old or of f.x. Congo or Siberia or South America of the old, would not find even half the Quran relevant for them, or even understandable. What meant f.x. "camel" or "horse" to a claimed messenger in the old Australia or Amazonas or Nunavut or Greenland? Remember that all cultures and communities in the world and to all times had their messengers according to Muhammad.

117 3/36: "- - - Satan, the Rejected - - -". Satan is an interesting "person" in the Quran, because he is one of the 3 possible makers of the Quran - and lots of points in the Quran fit a satan better than they fit a god - at least a claimed good and benevolent god. The other two possibilities are a mental illness - modern medical science suspects TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) which may give just the kinds of fits and of religious illusions Muhammad is said to have had. And finally there is the alternative of a cold human brain - f.x. Muhammad's. The fact that nearly everything in the book is from and around Arabia + all the errors which are in accordance with what one believed was correct science, etc. in Arabia at the time of Muhammad, may indicate this. The same do all the times Allah(?) helped Muhammad solving personal, etc. problems.

Muhammad's claim - that the Quran is from a god - is out of the question. No god - and definitely not an omniscient one - ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran. Only the "wrapping paper" - the Arab linguistics - is of good quality. And no good and benevolent god would engage in such a harsh and partly immoral war religion, led by a harsh and bloody warlord, like described in the Quran. It is heresy and an insult and slander towards any god to blame such a book on him.

118 3/37a: "- - - to the care of Zakariyya was she (Mary, mother of Jesus*) assigned - - -". This is not from the Bible - there is nowhere in the Bible any indication for that Mary did not grow up in her own family. Also when Mary later visited Zechariah and his wife Elisabeth, it was Elisabeth - her relative - she visited (Luke 1/39). From where did Muhammad get this piece of information or "information"?

#119 3/37b: "- - - every time he (Zechariah*) entered (her (Mary's*)) chamber, to see her, he found her supplied with sustenance. He said: 'O Mary! Whence (comes) this to you?" She said: 'From Allah - - -'". This is not from the Bible, and be 110% that such a miracle had not been forgotten - or falsified out - by the writers of NT! It would have strengthened Jesus' connection to Yahweh (Allah is wrong - see 3/19a above) quite a lot. The story is a made up one.

We may add that according to other points in the Quran Mary served in the Temple in Jerusalem, and this her chamber was there. But in the Temple there only served men - a historical fact. Muhammad did not know what he was talking about on this point, too.

Any god had known this, but obviously not Muhammad. Who then made the Quran?

120 3/37c "Allah provides sustenance - - -". For one thing this is not from the Bible (see 3/37b just above). For another thing Allah can provide nothing unless he exists.

121 3/38a: "There (in the Temple of Jerusalem*) did Zakariyya pray to his Lord (here intended to mean Allah*) - - -". For one thing Allah could do nothing about anything unless he existed. For another: For any one of you who know something about the religious and religious-political situation in the country and in Jerusalem: What would have happened if a priest to Yahweh in the Temple of Jerusalem (Zakariyya/Zechariah was a priest there - Luke 1/5-9) had prayed to the heathen main god al-Lah of a neighboring country - and how likely was it that a priest in the strict Mosaic religion would do so at that time? Remember f.x. that there even were strict social rules for even superficial closer contact with "gentiles" - non-Jews (f.x. John 4/9). (One of the reasons for Jesus' limited work among non-Jews.)

There is no doubt - also from historical facts - that the god of the priests in the Temple at that time was Yahweh, not Allah or any other god.

122 3/38b: "- - - for Thou (here intended to mean Allah*) art He that heareth prayers!" Allah could hear nothing unless he existed. And also see 3/38a just above.

123 3/38c+39a: "- - - prayer - - -". See 3/17c above.

124 3/39b: "- - - Yahya - - -" = John (the Baptist). Hebrew: Johanan.

125 3/39c: "- - - the truth of a Word from Allah - - -". If the Quran is representative for the truth from Allah, this sentence is not worth much. Besides there is no doubt, also from historical facts, that the god of a priest in the Temple of Jerusalem like Zechariah was, was Yahweh, not Allah - see 3/38a above.

126 3/39d: "- - - righteous". See 2/21b above.

127 3/40: "- - - Allah accomplish what He willeth". You time and again in the Quran find Muhammad boasting about what Allah can do if he will - like here. The problem is that he never will. (Here Zechariah got a child - the later John the Baptist - but according to the Bible, helped by Yahweh, not by Allah. (Luke 1/11-17)). Besides: What could Allah here do unless he existed and ?

128 3/41a: "- - - thou (Zakariyya*) shalt speak to no man for three days - - -". In the Bible he was dumb until after the child (John the Baptist*) was born (Luke 1/20 + 1/62-64).

129 3/41b: "Then celebrate the praises of thy (Zechariah's*) Lord (Allah*) again and again, and glorify Him - - -". See 3/38a above.

€€€130 3/42-44: Nothing of this is from the Bible, except that Mary was told she would become pregnant and have a very special boy-child. Of the verses from 3/42 to 3/59 only the rudimentary skeleton is similar to the corresponding stuff in the Bible. Much of the stuff included nearly all details are not from the Bible at all, and most of the rest is twisted to fit into Muhammad's new religion. And we remind you: Both science and Islam strongly have proved that the Bible is not falsified, in spite of Muhammad's never proved (normal for him) claims about this - his only way to save his new religion and platform of power.

131 3/42: "Allah hath chosen thee (Mary*) - - -". For one thing Allah could choose nobody unless he existed and was something supernatural, good or bad, none of which has ever been proved. For another thing according both to the Bible and to historical knowledge there is no doubt that the god of the Jews at that time in what now is Israel, was Yahweh, not Allah. (It is well known that Muhammad claimed - like always for him without any documentation - that Yahweh and Allah were the same god, but the two gods and also their religions were and are so very different, and also so fundamentally different, that this claim simply is wrong.)

132 3/43a: "O Mary! Worship thy Lord (Allah*) devoutly - - -". We do not think this needs a comment, but see 3/38a and 3/42 above.

133 3/43b: "- - - (- - - prayer - - -) - - -". See 3/17c above.

€€€134 3/44-48: Muslims tell that as the Quran is sent down from Allah, the story about Mary and about the birth and childhood of Jesus in the Quran is the correct one, not what is said in the Bible. We think this needs no comment. We only remind you that we now are in times of written history in that part of the world, that too many knew the truth about Jesus, so that his followers could not change the truth too much without losing credence, that Jesus and his followers greatly stressed honesty - and that what is told about this in the Quran is taken from made up legends - f.x. the Child Gospels - known in Arabia at that time.

135 3/44a: "- - - reveal - - -". If - if- things was revealed to Muhammad, who then was his "Lord" who in case revealed it, as "revelations" that full of errors, contradictions, self service for Muhammad. etc. like the Quran, did not come from a god? See 2/285b above. And remember: Of the verses from 3/42 to 3/59 only the rudimentary skeleton is similar to the corresponding stuff in the Bible. Much of the stuff included nearly all details are not from the Bible at all, and most of the rest is twisted to fit into Muhammad's new religion.

136 3/44b: "- - - (O Messenger!) (Muhammad*)) - - -". See 7/157a-c and the other comments under 7/157 below.

137 3/44c: "- - - by inspiration - - -". This is how Muhammad claimed he got most of his claimed messages from his claimed god - a very convenient way, as nobody could check the truth of the claims, and one can get inspired by many things. In the Bible there is not one single time mentioned that prophets got any message at all by means of inspiration. There the mentioned methods were by direct contact, by visions, or by dreams - see 4. Mos. 12/6 above. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and of course for that Muhammad did not serve the old Jewish and Christian god (Yahweh) but another one, real or made up.

138 3/44d: "- - - which of them (some Jewish priests, included Zechariah*) should be charged with the care of Mary - - -". This is not from the Bible, and there also is nothing similar to this about Mary in the Bible. There also nowhere in the Bible is even indicated that Mary at any time was in the care of Zechariah. But then it is well known that Muhammad knew the Bible badly - it is likely he never saw NT in his entire life, and OT/the Jewish scriptures only after he came to Medina, if then. And in Medina it was too late to save his new religion and platform of power by other means than claiming that the reason for all the differences between what he claimed the Bible said, and what it really said, was that the Bible was falsified. (Both science and Islam have strongly proved the claim is not true).

139 3/45a: "- - - his name will be Christ Jesus, son of Mary (= ben Mary in Hebrew form*) - - -". For one thing his name was not Christ Jesus, but only Jesus. Christ - or Christos - is Greek for Messiah (= the anointed one), and was not used for Jesus until some years after his death and ascension. For another the name "ben Mary" very surely was not used. He had an officially accepted father, Joseph, and in a very masculine society like the old Jewish one, it had been a serious insult both to Mary, Joseph and Jesus to use his mother's name in this connection. His name during all his lifetime was Jesus ben Joseph (= Jesus son of Joseph). Or to be more correct: NT was written in Greek, and Jesus is the Greek version of his name. The Hebrew version was Joshua, and thus his name in reality was Joshua ben Joseph as long as he lived in Israel and used the Hebrew (or Aramaic) version of his name.

But for Muhammad it was essential to state that Jesus was not the son of Yahweh - Joshua ben Yahweh. As he accepted that Mary was a virgin, and that Joseph could not be his real father, the obvious choice for Muhammad was to claim that the name was "son of Mary" - if people believed Jesus was the son of Yahweh, nobody would believe he - Muhammad - was a greater prophet than Jesus, and Muhammad wanted to be the greatest.

>p> A small, but telling curiosum here: According to our sources, the Arab version of the name Jesus/Joshua is Yoshuwa or Yushuwa, whereas the Arab form of the name Esau is Isa. This in case means that when Muhammad talked about Isa, he was talking about Esau (the brother of the Jewish patriarch Jacob), not about Jesus like he believed. No god would make such a stupid mistake. Then who made the Quran? 

Another point: AS THE QURAN IN 21/91a CONFIRMS THAT IT WAS THE GOD WHO CREATED JESUS INSIDE MARY, HOW WAS/IS IT THEN POSSIBLE FOR MUHAMMAD, THE QURAN, ISLAM, AND MUSLIMS TO CLAIM THE GOD WAS NOT JESUS' FATHER?? THE ONE CREATING A BABY INSIDE A WOMAN, IS THE FATHER.

140 3/45b: "- - - (Jesus will be*) held in honor in this world - - - of (the company of) those nearest to Allah - - -". This at least is true. Jesus - but in a version twisted a lot by Muhammad - seems to be the 3. or 4. most central prophet in Islam, after Muhammad, Abraham, and perhaps Moses.

As for "twisted by Muhammad" we may add that there is no chance for that the NT is falsified - too many too old documents which disproves this never documented claim from Muhammad, exists. It is not a religious statement, but a historical fact that it is not falsified. There may be some mistakes and some exaggerations, but not too many or too big, because far too many witnesses to what really happened were still alive when most of NT was written, and if the authors were not mainly truthful, too many would correct them and they would lose all their credibility - and then their religion would die out. It also is a fact that the demand for being truthful is far stronger in Christianity than in Islam - NT f.x. never had rules similar to Islam for al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), not to mention acceptance for deception or betrayal or even broken words/promises/oaths like Islam and even the Quran has (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a). NT demands full honesty and only honesty. The authors of NT knew this absolute demand for honesty. And remember: Of the verses from 3/42 to 3/59 only the rudimentary skeleton is similar to the corresponding stuff in the Bible. Much of the stuff included nearly all details are not from the Bible at all, and most of the rest is twisted to fit into Muhammad's new religion.

As a "brother" of al-Takiyya and Kitman, etc., we should also mention the tradition for "Hilah": A "device to stop, hinder, or trick - - -. Strategm to avoid or circumvent legal prinsiples or rigid constructs. - - - utilized - - - to solve contradictions between (political powers, cultural choises, etc*) and Quranic principles". (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). In plain words: ways/tricks of seemingly or formally being honest or correct, while in reality being dishonest or incorrect. It seems that this aspect of "the religion of truth" was first campained of the Hanifi law school, but later utilized also by the other 3 Muslim law schools. "Hilah" is dishonesty in disguice. True honesty is not always central in Islam and among Islam's religious and moral forefront.

141 3/46a: "He (Jesus*) shall speak to the people in childhood - - -". Also in the Bible Jesus a couple of times speaks "to people" during childhood - but childhood, not as a baby or even newborn baby like the Quran claims a couple of places.

142 3/46b: "- - - righteous." See 2/21b above.

###143 3/47a: "How shall I (Mary*) have a son when no man has touched me?" This is an interesting point - one of at least four places where the Quran indirectly, but impossible to mistake, confirms that Mary was a virgin (also 19/20 and 21/91a, and 66/12b below). The reason why this is interesting, is that you sometimes meet Muslims claiming - and often in dirty words - that Jesus was a result of Mary running with men, perhaps Roman soldiers - to throw dirt on Mary means throwing dirt on Christianity means sullying an opponent and making him and his meanings non-interesting. Truth is not always essential for Muslims - they f.x. have al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth).

But the point is that every time a Muslim makes such claims (also these - like normal for Muslims - never documented ones), he/she at the same time then says that the Quran is mistaken at least four places, and thus that the omniscient god Allah have made at least four mistakes.

Besides: AS THE QURAN IN 21/91a CONFIRMS THAT IT WAS THE GOD WHO CREATED JESUS INSIDE MARY, HOW WAS/IS IT THEN POSSIBLE FOR MUHAMMAD, THE QURAN, ISLAM, AND MUSLIMS TO CLAIM THE GOD WAS NOT JESUS' FATHER?? THE ONE CREATING A BABY INSIDE A WOMAN, IS THE FATHER.

144 3/47b: "Allah creatheth what He willeth - - -". Allah could and can create nothing unless he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad, none of which has ever been proved - he then also never or anywhere in the world provably has created even a virus; there are shiploads of claims, but not one proved case. 

145 3/47c: "- - - when He (Allah*) hath decreed a Plan - - -". According to the Quran Allah predestines every detail which happen on Earth and in Heaven, and he does so according to his Plan, which nobody and nothing (prayers? forgiving? free will of man?) can change. This total predestination and this unchangeable Plan are two of the really solid proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. And remember: Of the verses from 3/42 to 3/59 only the rudimentary skeleton is similar to the corresponding stuff in the Bible. Much of the stuff included nearly all details are not from the Bible at all, and most of the rest is twisted to fit into Muhammad's new religion.

146 3/47d: "- - - He (Allah*) but saith to it (something planned*), 'Be' and it is!" Perhaps not Allah but Yahweh said: 'Be a son' and Jesus was?

147 3/48a: "And Allah will teach him (Jesus*) the Book of Wisdom - - -". It is not directly said here that this means the Quran, but in this book "the Book of Wisdom" normally means the Quran. Remember here that Muhammad claimed that all prophets through the times had received a book similar to the Quran - see 2/89b and 2/213b above. If you are able to believe that Jesus read and studied the Quran - first ever known mentioning of that book is some 600 years later - that is another question.

148 3/48b: "And Allah will teach him (Jesus*) - - - the Gospel". One thing is that Muhammad does not seem to have known there are 4 Gospels - he always used singular. Much worse is that the Gospels did not - could not - exist when Jesus was a child. A Gospel is the story of Jesus' life, death, resurrection, and ascension to Heaven, and could not be written until after this had happened.

The most common Muslim "explanation" here is that Muhammad was talking about an older Gospel which later has disappeared. And there is a real possibility that there existed an older one, but the point is that also this one cannot have been written until after Jesus had lived, died, been resurrected, and gone up to Heaven - and thus cannot have existed when Jesus was a child.

This point is one of the strong points for that the Quran is not from any god - a god had known this.

#149 3/49a: "- - - Messenger - - -". This word is nowhere in the Bible used as a title for a representative for Yahweh.(Muhammad used it as his most frequently used title - perhaps because he felt uneasy about the title Prophet? - that title might cause questions as he was unable to make prophesies.)

150 3/49b: "- - - I (Jesus*) make for you (people*) out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird - - -". This story - or anything similar - is not from the Bible.

##151 3/49c: "- - - I (Jesus*) heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken (resurrect*) the dead, by Allah's leave - - -". This - and also 3/49a just above - is one of the places where the Quran confirms that Jesus had supernatural power. (Also Jesus himself said he got his power from the god - but Yahweh, not Allah. Many Christians say Jesus also was a god, but the Bible does not confirm exactly this; it confirms he was divine, but not that he was a god - it is possible to be of royal family (f.x. a son) without being a king. He also said himself that his power he got from Yahweh, the only god.) And remember: Of the verses from 3/42 to 3/59 only the rudimentary skeleton is similar to the corresponding stuff in the Bible. Much of the stuff included nearly all details are not from the Bible at all, and most of the rest is twisted to fit into Muhammad's new religion.

####152 3/49d: "Surely therein (in Jesus' many miracles*) is a Sign for you (people*) if ye did believe - - -". And Jesus' many miracles were a sign, and a sign MANY according to the Bible believed in. But as they were signs for Jesus' power and for Yahweh, not for Allah, they naturally came to believe in Yahweh - or became strengthened in their belief in him.

But this sentence also is one of the strong proofs for that Muhammad knew he lied each time he claimed that the reason for why Allah did not perform any miracles, was that nobody would believe because of miracles anyhow - but Muhammad knew about Jesus' miracles, and the effect of them was too well known, so Muhammad knew he lied in those cases. Another similar proof for that Muhammad knew he lied when he used that "explanation", was what he told happened the sorcerers of Ramses II: They became devout believers because of a small miracle performed by Moses.

153 3/49e: "- - - Sign - - -". See 2/39 and 2/96a above.

###154 3/50a: "And (I, Jesus am*) to make lawful to you (Jews/people*) what was (before) forbidden to you - - -". Many Muslims claim Jesus just confirmed the old laws of Moses - it is a pet claim for a number of Muslims. According to the Bible, he changed some of those laws (and most of the ones added by humans) - and here the Quran confirms this, and that it was part of his "job" on Earth. 

####An extra comment here about laws: Many Muslims refer to that Jesus said he did not come to change the old laws, and claim that the old Mosaic laws thus must rule also Christians - and that Christians are sinning against them. But they conveniently skip that he added "until everything is accomplished" (f.x. Matt.5/18), and also skip that he on the cross added "it is finished" (John 19/30) - everything was accomplished (and may be enough was accomplished even before). As many of the Islamic Laws are closer to the old Mosaic laws than to the milder ones introduced by Jesus, and to find sins among opponents, it was essential also for Muhammad to stress that Jesus just was confirming the old Mosaic laws, f.x. concerning food. That the claim was not true, did not matter much to him, and does not matter much to Islam of today (though to be honest we think most Muslims do not know better). But even the Quran in 5/15c confirms that the god changed old laws. And f.x. Matt.5/34-36, Matt. 5/43-44, Matt. 12/3-12, Matt. 15/11-20, Luke 14/5, and Peter's sights in Acts 10/10-16 made it clear that Jesus and/or Yahweh changed laws - and Mark 7/14-19 and not least the Quran in 3/50a directly confirm that Jesus did change some of the old laws - even though that clearly was not the reason why he came to Earth.

155 3/50b: "- - - Sign - - -". See 2/39 and 2/96a above.

#156 3/50c: "So fear Allah and obey me (Jesus*)." One thing is that according to the Bible, Jesus' god was Yahweh, not Allah. Worse here is that Jesus in the entire Bible never said anything like this. What he sometimes said, was that you should fear Yahweh and follow Jesus - there are oceans and worlds between those two sentences. But Muhammad wanted respect and power - and money and women - and used such an expression many a time (actually you were not a Muslim unless you accepted to obey Muhammad!), and then it was fine if other prophets(? - Muhammad was not really a prophet, as he was unable to make prophesies) used the same expression and thus "attested" that Muhammad behaved like - and his demands were - normal for a prophet.

157 3/50d: "- - - fear Allah - - -". Why, if he does not exist or for other reasons is not a god? (And besides it is not only a religious statement, but a historical fact that the god of the Jews at that time was Yahweh, and that Allah was unknown, except as the pagan god al-Lah of Arab traders and neighboring Arabia.) And remember: Of the verses from 3/42 to 3/59 only the rudimentary skeleton is similar to the corresponding stuff in the Bible. Much of the stuff included nearly all details are not from the Bible at all, and most of the rest is twisted to fit into Muhammad's new religion.

####158 3/51a: "It is Allah who is my (Jesus'*) Lord and your (his disciples'*) Lord - - -". That Allah and not Yahweh should be Jesus' and his disciples' god is so far out according to the Bible, that no comment is necessary. But we may mention that it is historically wrong. See 3/19a above.

159 3/51b: "- - - worship Him (Allah*)". Once more: Why, if he does not exist - like the Quran and all its errors, etc. in practice proves? - they at least prove there is no god involved in that book. Also see 3/19a and 3/51a above.

160 3/51c: "This (Islam*) is a Way (to Heaven) that is straight". The corresponding expression in NT is "the narrow road". It tells something that according to Muhammad his road to Heaven for the followers was the straight - the easy - road, whereas Jesus told that his road for the ones seeking the god, was the narrow - the difficult - road. Populism vs. realism? This verse is not from the Bible, just to mention it.

###161 3/52a: "'Who will be my (Jesus*) helpers to (the work of) Allah?' Said the Disciples: 'We are Allah's helpers: we believe in Allah, and thou bear witness that we are Muslims". One of the many places in the Quran where the contents of the Bible is twisted - or here actually made up, as this is not from the Bible at all - to fit Muhammad's new religion. We may add that neither science nor Islam has found any provable traces from Muslims from before 610 AD - not anywhere or any time. Also it is a historical fact that there is no god like Allah and no religion like Islam mentioned anywhere in old scriptures or anywhere else in that part of the Roman Empire - or anywhere else - until some 600 years later, and another historical fact is that the Jews god at that time was Yahweh and definitely not Allah. Historical facts, not religious statements or claims. And just for the record: This tale as mentioned is not from the Bible to say the least of it. And as said: It is historically wrong - see also 3/19a above. Islam will have to bring strong proofs - and proofs for once, not only claims - to be believed (Muslims' normal game is to throw out claims and demand proof from you for that it is wrong if you mean it is wrong, and then throw out new claims if you are able to prove them wrong. Turn the table - it is they who make the claims, and thus they who shall prove their words.)

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

162 3/52b: "- - - Muslims - - -". A historical fact: There were no Muslims at the time of Jesus. All claims like this are made up ones - see 3/19a above.

###163 3/53a: "- - - what thou (Allah - here claimed via Jesus*) hath revealed (texts claimed similar to the Quran*) - - -". Here is pretended that the disciples of Jesus used words similar to ones repeated many times in the Quran - then the words in the Quran must be true ones? But remember: Of the verses from 3/42 to 3/59 only the rudimentary skeleton is similar to the corresponding stuff in the Bible. Much of the stuff included nearly all details are not from the Bible at all, and most of the rest is twisted to fit into Muhammad's new religion. 

164 3/53b: "- - - Messenger - - -". Here it is used as a title for Jesus. This title is never used for any prophet in the Bible, included Jesus. One of the small, but revealing differences.

165 3/53c: "- - - write us (Jesus' disciples*) down among those who bear witness". They did, but it is a historical fact - f.x. from their letters, Paul's letters, the Gospels, and Acts - that they bore witness about Yahweh - a god very different from Allah and with a religion very different from Allah's. (Little by little there also were other manuscripts, etc. proving the same. Muhammad falsified history not a little, and likely for two reasons: He had to do so to make history fit his words and his religion, and he knew little or nothing about relevant real history, and simply did not know what he was talking about.

####166 3/54: "And (the unbelievers (non-Muslims*)) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah". This was understood like the non-Muslims tried to use deception and unfair means, but that Allah was better at deception and such means than they. And if Allah could use deception, etc., of course also Muslims could/can use dishonesty. This verse is one of the points behind al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), the use of deception, etc. And the use of broken words/promises/oaths rests on other verses, directly telling that even oaths can or should be broken if that gave/gives a better result - see f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, and 66/2a - pay expiation afterwards if necessary. This use of dishonesty and for that case the use of brutality and weapons and raids - mainly for riches - and war, is something you do not find in others of the big religions, but glorification of the use of fighting was and is typical for war religions and ideologies (to claim that "Islam is the religion of peace" is an outstanding example of an al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie).

For abrogation also see 2/106a and 8/30. Abrogation as a formal part of the religion does not exist in the Bible - one more clear indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Other al-Taqiyya basics in f.x. 8/30 and 10/21b and 13/42a below.

167 3/55a: "O Jesus! I (Allah*) will take thee and raise thee to Myself - - -". Muhammad claimed - and Islam claims - that Jesus was not executed and then resurrected (if the Bible tells the truth here, it is very clear Jesus was someone very special, and few if anyone would believe Muhammad was the greatest of prophets ever, like Muhammad wanted to be). Instead they claim that someone else was executed instead. (But who would play the role of Jesus in this horrible scene, and who looked and spoke and thought so similar to Jesus that the impostor could cheat not only the ones closest to Jesus in this life, but also his harsh and unforgiving enemies? And what unlucky victim would not in his inhuman pain scream out that wrong man had been crucified, hoping to save his life and end his pain? This story is a made up one - far too improbable to even think about.)

Another thing is that if the god took Jesus up to Heaven alive, that is as good a proof for that he was someone very special as the proof by resurrection. For a comparison Muhammad died quite un-heroic, and perhaps from poison (he died rather quickly, and one of the theories is that he was poisoned ones more - it had happened at least once before - and that this time he died from it. Or that the original poison finally did its job, perhaps helped by an infection. (It is quite possible the first poisoning was the reason – he always later complained about pains from it). This in case would be quite normal for early Islam. Of the first 11 caliphs, only one - abu Bakr - died a natural death in "the Religion of Peace")).

168 3/55b: "- - - (the falsehood) of those who blaspheme - - -". This is somewhat unclear, but may refer to Muhammad's claim that Jesus preached Islam, and was distrusted. Muhammad then claimed the Bible later was falsified - this was his only way to "explain" the differences between what he said the Bible told, and what it really told, and thus his only way to save his new religion and his own platform of power. But both science and Islam have strongly proved with strong empirical and circumstantial proofs that the Bible is not falsified by being unable to find a single proved falsification among some 44ooo (the number varies some from one to another source, but big) known relevant manuscripts and fragments older than 610 AD, and by being unable to explain how it could be arranged to falsify tens of thousands of old manuscripts spread over all the known world and wider - and in times with slow and bad communications, how it was possible to make Israelites, Christians, and sects agree on what and how to falsify of texts, and not least how it was technically possible to falsify tens of thousands and more papers in such ways that modern science is unable to find the traces from the falsifications - the scratching out, different ink, different handwriting, no contradictions because of falsifications, etc. Also see 2/75 and 3/19a above.

"What is claimed without proofs, can be dismissed without proofs" - and here not only the proofs are lacking, but also believable explanations.

The small curiosum here: As Islam claims each prophet/messenger got a copy similar to the Quran, and as Hadiths tells there were 124ooo prophets/messengers through the times and all over the world, there must have been at least 124ooo copies of the Quran around, plus all the copies written from these ones. No-one knows how many copies there ever existed of the Bible older than 610 AD, but far fewer - mainly because they were 4-5 times as big as the Quran, and thus 4-5 times as expensive - handwritten books naturally were very expensive - and no 124ooo free copies from the god like the Quran. All the same there exist some 12ooo manuscripts (mostly of parts of the book) or fragments from the Bible + some 32ooo manuscripts or fragments with references to or quotes from texts in the Bible. For a comparison there does not exist even one fragment or one reference or one quote from the Quran in the entire world older than 610, AD when Muhammad started his new religion.

Believe in the claim about the Quran being a book older than 610 AD (really a little later) if you are able to.

Thought provoking here: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

##169 3/55c: "I (Allah*) will make those who follow thee (Jesus - according to the Quran Jesus was a good and believing Muslim (!!!)*) superior to those who reject faith (the Quran/Islam*)) - - -". This is a "fact" for many Muslims: Muslims are better humans than non-Muslims. F.x. in Pakistan a few years ago there was a serious debate about if non-Muslims had half the value of Muslims or less. And remember: Of the verses from 3/42 to 3/59 only the rudimentary skeleton is similar to the corresponding stuff in the Bible. Much of the stuff included nearly all details are not from the Bible at all, and most of the rest is twisted to fit into Muhammad's new religion.

170 3/55d: "- - - I will make those who follow thee (Jesus*) superior - - -". This is exactly what the NT says about the followers of Jesus and thus of Yahweh.

171 3/55e: "- - - the Day of Resurrection: then shall all return to unto me (Allah*) - - -". According to the Bible all will return unto Yahweh - both books cannot be true on this point. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

172 3/55f: "- - - I (here intended Allah*) - will judge - - -". How if he does not exist or for other reasons is not a god?

173 3/56a: "As to those who reject faith, I (Allah*) will punish them - - - in this world and the Hereafter". Not possible in this world and especially not in the perhaps next one unless he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad, none of which has ever been proved - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Also see 3/19a above. Also according to the Bible the followers of Yahweh will be safe.

174 3/56b: "- - - nor will they (non-Muslims*) have anyone to help". According to the Bible at least the followers of Yahweh will have a helper - but a helper who hardly will help many Muslims, as their religion is too brutal and too far - f.x. in the use of dishonesty - from Yahweh's one to qualify for help from him.

175 3/57a: "- - - righteousness - - -". See 2/21b above.

176 3/57b: "- - - Allah will pay them (Muslims*) (in full) their reward - - -". Two facts: Allah cannot keep this promise unless he exists and is a god. And As the Quran is so full of errors and worse that no god has been involved in that book, who is making this promise in the Quran? - and are such promises not backed by any god worth anything? And one question: If a god using the moral rule "do against others what you want others do against you" is the real rules in the possible next life, what will then be in full the reward for some Muslims?

177 3/57c: "- - - Allah loveth not those who do wrong". Allah cannot love anybody unless he exists.

178 3/57d: "- - - do wrong". See 2/21b above.

179 3/58a: "- - - Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/96a above and 4/140b below.

180 3/58b: "- - - the Message of Wisdom - - -". Muhammad claimed Jesus was a god Muslim who had received the same message as he himself ("the Message of Wisdom" = the Quran - or its twin). But read the Quran - how much wisdom could a pacifist and loving person like Jesus (or for that case anybody else) find there? (Do not laugh - it is impolite.) And remember: Of the verses from 3/42 to 3/59 only the rudimentary skeleton is similar to the corresponding stuff in the Bible. Much of the stuff included nearly all details are not from the Bible at all, and most of the rest is twisted to fit into Muhammad's new religion.

#181 3/59: "- - - (Allah*) created him (Jesus*) from dust, and then said to him: 'Be' and he was". A verse worth remembering when Muslims claim Jesus could not be the son of Yahweh, because Yahweh had no woman. (Besides: In the very old Semitic religion the god had a woman - his Amat (other names are used). But in the very masculine society this female goddess was forgotten over the millennia (sources among others New Scientist).

But you bet this verse is not from the Bible and far from the Gospels' story about the birth of Jesus.

A related point: AS THE QURAN IN 21/91a CONFIRMS THAT IT WAS THE GOD WHO CREATED JESUS INSIDE MARY, HOW WAS/IS IT THEN POSSIBLE FOR MUHAMMAD, THE QURAN, ISLAM, AND MUSLIMS TO CLAIM THE GOD WAS NOT JESUS' FATHER?? THE ONE CREATING A BABY INSIDE A WOMAN, IS THE FATHER.

182 3/60a: "The Truth (comes) from Allah alone - - -". Does the truth come from a claimed, but never proved god who on top of all believes in the use of dishonesty and deceit and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a)? Also see 2/26 above and 16/78 below.

Also this verse is not from the Bible.

183 3/60b: "- - - Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

184 3/61a: "- - - let us (Muhammad + skeptics*) earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie". Compare this to Jesus' words "love your enemies" (Matt. 5/44). Jesus and Muhammad were far from in the same religion or the same moral code.

185 3/61b "- - - the curse of Allah - - -". - is invalid unless Allah exists and is something powerful.

186 3/61c: "- - - those (the non-Muslims*) who lie - - -". Who are lying? - the ones telling that a book full of mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, etc., and even a few(?) lies, is the truth? - or the ones seeing at least some of the errors and understand what they mean?

This also is one of Muhammad's nice names for non-Muslims.

187 3/62a: "- - - true - - -". See 2/26 above.

188 3/62b: "- - - there is no god except Allah - - -". According to the Bible, there is no god except Yahweh. At least one of those books has to be wrong on this very essential point. (Besides the circumstances around the Quran and all its mistakes, indicate that the Bible may be right.)

Also see 45/13a below.

189 3/62c: "- - - He (Allah) is indeed the Exalted in Power - - -". He in case never provably has showed that power. Besides according to the Bible the only one really exalted in power is Yahweh.

190 3/62d: "- - - Allah is - - - Wise". Not if he delivered the Quran.

191 3/63: "- - - Allah hat full knowledge of those who do mischief". Look at Islam's history - their aggression, their behavior during and after wars and raids, their pirates, their terrorists (Muslim terrorists are nothing new), their slave hunting - perhaps 100 million or more only in black Africa through the times - their treatment of non-Muslims and women, their stealing and looting, etc. According to all normal codes of moral and of conduct this is mischief.

192 3/64a: "- - - that we (Jews/Christians/Sabeans + Muslims*) worship none but Allah - - -". Here we again meet Muhammad's never documented claim that Yahweh and Allah are the same god. This claim is thoroughly proved wrong by all the many and fundamental differences between them and between their teachings.

193 3/64b: "- - - (- - - Allah's Will) - - -". Allah's will is expressed via the Quran. But as the Quran is not from any god - to blame a book of that quality (only the Arab linguistics - the wrapping paper so to say - is of good quality) on a god, is slander and insult and heresy towards that god - who's will does then the Quran expresses? 3 possible alternatives:

1): The dark forces. A number of immoral and inhuman points in the Quran may indicate this.

2): A mental illness (like TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy). Modern medical science suspects this.

3): One or more cold human brain(s) - f.x. Muhammad's. All the mistakes in the Quran believed to be correct science at the time of Muhammad plus f.x. the fact that all material in the book is from Arabia and neighboring area + all help to Muhammad also private, strongly indicates this - perhaps combined with alternative 2.

Also see 45/13a below.

194 3/65: "Why dispute ye (Jews and Christians*) about Abraham - - -". They had a reason to dispute about him, because much of what the Quran tells about Abraham is not from the Bible, and some of it also directly conflicts with what the Bible tells about him. (By the way: From where did Muhammad get this extra "information" about among others Abraham? As the Quran with all its mistakes, contradictions, etc. is not from any god, Muhammad cannot have received it from a god like Islam likes to claim - and then only dark forces, folklore, etc., and cold fantasy remains as "sources" - - - or a mental illness (f.x. TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy).

For Abraham also see 2/124a, 2/125a, 2/127a and 2/128a above and 22/78c and 14/37b below.

195 3/66: "It is Allah Who knows, and ye (non-Muslims*) know not!" If the Quran is representative for Allah's knowledge, then he does not know much. (As for knowledge also see 22/3a below).

196 3/67a: "Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian - - -". Abraham was not a Christian, as Christ did not appear for another nearly 2ooo years. (Science believe that if Abraham ever existed, he lived some 1800 - 2ooo years BC. (though Muslims often says he was born ca. 2150 BC)) But whether to call him a Jew or not may be a matter of opinion. If the Bible tells the truth and Abraham was a believer in the old Jewish god Yahweh, it may be quite correct to call him the first Israelite (even though that name was not coined until much later - the name derives from Judah, one of the sons of Jacob).

For Abraham also see 2/124a, 2/125a, 2/127a and 2/128a above and 22/78c and 14/37b below.

197 3/67b: "- - - (Abraham*) bowed his will to Allah's (which is Islam) - - -". Islam is expressed in the Quran mainly. Then as for Allah's will see 3/64b above.

198 3/67c: "- - - (Abraham*) bowed his will to Allah's (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah". According to the Bible Abraham's god was Yahweh, not Allah. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "A claim without a proof can be dismissed without a proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or something else central in his religion.)

199 3/67d: "- - - (Abraham*) Joined not gods with Allah". At least when it comes to the followers of Yahweh, they do not join gods/rivals with Allah - they simply do not believe he exists (well, many are not better informed than they believe in Muhammad's never proved - and documented wrong - claim that Allah is the same god as Yahweh, but Allah in case was a very twisted and wrong image of Yahweh). And actually it is the same for other religions - there are no non-Muslim religions believing in Allah, so they do not "join other gods" with him, but have one or more gods INSTEAD OF Allah. Another fact is that if Allah does not exist, it is not possible to join anything with him, included other gods - - - and there nowhere was or is any proof or even clear indication for the existence of Allah - only Muhammad's words, and Muhammad was a man with a very doubtful moral and reliability.

200 3/68a: "Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Abraham, are those who follow him - - -". This is rubbish to be polite - you do not become related to a person because of believing in what is told about him, and especially not if the tales are made up ones, like the Bible indicates about much of what is told about Abraham - and for that case about Ishmael - in the Quran. (And all the mistakes in the Quran even stronger indicate that the book is unreliable.)

For Abraham also see 2/124a, 2/125a, 2/127a and 2/128a above and 22/78c and 14/37b below.

201 3/68b: "- - - this Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c and the other comments under 7/157 below.

202 3/68c: "- - - Allah is the Protector of those who have faith (Muslims*)". Allah is the protector of exactly no-one unless he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad, none of which has ever been proved.

203 3/69a: "It is a wish of the People of the Book to lead you (Muslims*) astray - - -". Whether to lead someone to Yahweh is to lead them astray or not, depends on if the Bible tells the truth about him or not. What is for sure is that the followers of a "holy" book which even itself proves there is no god behind it like the Quran, already are astray.

Also see 45/13a and also the sinister 34/50a below. 

204 3/69b: "But they (Israelites and Christians*) shall lead astray (not you (Muslims*)) but themselves". The Bible disagrees.

Also see the sinister 34/50a below.

205 3/70a: "- - - Signs of Allah - - -". See 2/39 and 2/96a above and 4/140b below.

206 3/70b: "- - - Signs of Allah, of which ye (the Jews and Christians*) are (yourselves) witness - - -". Jews and Christians according to the Bible had witnessed proofs for the existence and power of Yahweh. As Muhammad - wrongly and as normal for him without any documentation - claimed that Yahweh and Allah were the same god, he consequently claimed that the proofs for Yahweh also were proofs for Allah. As both Jews and Christians saw the enormous difference between Yahweh and Allah, they naturally did not believe Muhammad.

207 3/70c: "- - - Signs of Allah, of which ye (the Jews and Christians*) are (yourselves) witness - - -". As Muhammad sometimes referred to the Quran when he talked about "signs", this also may refer to the made up claim that Muhammad is to be found in the Bible (they had to make up such claims, because the Quran tells he is mentioned there, but he is not, and thus if they did not make up things, the Quran had mistakes - - - and could/cannot be from a god). See the chapter about "Muhammad in the Bible?" in http://www.1000mistakes.com .

208 3/71a: "Why do ye (Jews and Christians*) clothe truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, when ye have knowledge?" One more of Muhammad's wrong claims - of course without any proof - about that Israelites and Christians had falsified the Bible. See 2/75 above.

And "what is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". In addition: When Muslims claim or state things, demand proofs (or dismiss what they claim) - Muslims have no valid proof for any central point in their entire religion. (As for knowledge also see 22/3a below).

209 3/71b: "- - - Truth - - -". Does the truth come from a claimed, but never proved god who on top of all believes in the use of dishonesty and deceit and even broken words/promises/oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a)? Also see 2/26 above.

Also this verse is not from the Bible. Also notice how much in the Quran is written for Arabia and the conditions there at the time of Muhammad. The book is not written for the world or for all times - the claimed messengers of the old or of f.x. Congo or Siberia or South America of the old, would not find even half the Quran relevant for them, or even understandable. What meant f.x. "camel" or "horse" to a claimed messenger in the old Australia or Amazonas or Nunavut or Greenland? Remember that all cultures and communities in the world and to all times had their messengers according to Muhammad.

210 3/71c: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 22/3a below - and for religious knowledge also 2/21b is relevant.

211 3/72: This may be a parallel to 3/71a above.

212 3/73a: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah - - -". According to the Bible true guidance is from Yahweh, not from Allah. And what is absolutely sure is that a guidebook full of errors, contradictions, etc. like the Quran, is no reliable guidance - this no matter whether the Bible is true or not. What also is sure, is that Allah can guide no-one unless he exists. And if he exist and is something supernatural, you had better make sure he does not belong to the dark forces before you follow him - his little respect for "do to others like you want others do to you" may indicate something.

213 3/73b: "- - - a revelation sent to someone (else (not a Jew*)) like unto that which was sent unto you (Jews*)". One of Muhammad’s claimed "explanations" for why the many Jews (and the few Christians) in the area did not believe in him, was that they did not like that the god had sent an Arab and not a Jew as a prophet. The true reason was that the Jews knew their holy scriptures and saw there were so big and fundamental differences between what Muhammad claimed those scriptures told and what they really told, that they easily saw something had to be seriously wrong.

214 3/73c: "- - - revelation - - -". See 2/285b above.

215 3/73d: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah - - -". Not unless he at least exists, and hardly unless he in addition is something supernatural, good or bad, none of which has ever been proved.

216 3/73e: "- - - He (Allah*) granteth them (his bounties*) to whom He pleaseth - - -". So whether you have a good life or not, does not depend on yourself or on your toil, but on Allah's unfathomable will.

217 3/73f: "- - - Allah careth for all - - -". Not possible unless he exists and is a god - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Also see 3/19a above.

218 3/73g: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth all things". Not possible unless Allah exists and is a god, neither of which has ever been proved. Besides: If he knows everything, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc.): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

Also see 29/2 below.

219 3/74a: "- - - His (Allah's*) Mercy - - -". See 3/31e above.

220 3/74b: "Allah is the Lord of bounties unbounded". Again: This cannot be true unless he exists and is something powerful, good or bad.

221 3/75 "But they (Jews and the few Christians in the area*) tell a lie against Allah". Muhammad's many times repeated, but proved wrong, claim that the Bible is falsified. And what the knowers of the Bible knows well - if they read the Quran - is that there are enormous and deep differences between the Bible and the Quran - too big and too deep for the two books to come from the same god - one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. This absolutely is no lie - check it yourself.

222 3/76a: "- - - Allah loves those who act right". Allah can love - or dislike - nobody unless he exists.

223 3/76b "- - - act aright". See 2/21b above.

224 3/77a: "- - - those (Israelites and Christians mainly*) who sell the faith they owe to Allah - - -". This is one of Muhammad's standard "explanations" why Jews and Christians did not believe in him: They "sold" Islam to have a better life in this world (he never explained how non-Muslims could gain a better life by not believing in his new religion - a new religion which permitted the use of dishonesty, stealing/looting, extortion, etc., and thus made many of its followers rich). This "explanation" of course sounded better to his followers and others, than the plain truth: They did not believe in him because they knew the Bible well enough to see that it told very different things from what Muhammad claimed it told, and that thus something had to be very wrong somewhere in Muhammad's never proved loose claims.

225 3/77b: "- - - nor will Allah (deign to) speak to them (non-Muslims*) - - - on the Day of Doom". For one thing it will be impossible for him if he does not exist and/or is not a god, and for another thing, if the Bible tells the truth, it will be Yahweh who rules that day, not Allah.

226 3/77c: "- - - (- - - sin) - - -". See 2/21b above.

227 3/77d: "They (Jews and Christians*) shall have a grievous penalty". Muslims will have to hope that the Bible is wrong, because if not it is a very open question who are to meet a grievous penalty - this even more so as it is clear the Quran with all its mistakes, contradictions, etc. is from no god, so that Muslims are wrong from the start already.

228 3/78a: "There is among them (Jews and Christians mainly*) a section who distort the Book (here likely the Quran - the Jews' corrected it by quotes from their scriptures*) with their tongues - - -". Once more Muhammad's never documented, and proved wrong claim, that the Bible is falsified - see 2/75 and 3/19a above. To slander them because they knew the opposite of what he claimed, was ok psychology for listeners wanting to believe him.

229 3/78b: "- - - it is they (Jews and Christians*) who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it!" One more of Muhammad's never documented and wrong claims about a falsified Bible. See 2/75 and 3/19a above - and 3/78a just above.

230 3/79-80: Here it is possible the Quran has a point, as Jesus/NT - and also OT - never wanted you to pray to others than to Yahweh. Saints in the present meaning of the word (originally in the Bible it simply meant followers of Jesus) is an invention of the (Catholic) church - and of f.x. Shi’a Muslims.

231 3/79a: "Be ye (people*) worshippers of Him (Allah*) - - -". Meaningless if he does not exist and/or is not a god.

232 3/79b: "Be ye (people*) worshippers of Him (Allah*) who is truly the Cherisher of all - - -". Impossible if he does not exist and/or is not something supernatural, good or bad, none of which has ever been proved - - - and whether he wants to help his(?) Muslims if he after all should happen to exist, will depend entirely on if his religion is correctly described among all the errors and worse in the Quran.

##233 3/80a: "What" Would he (a Muslim prophet, perhaps Muhammad*) bid you (Muslims*) to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (to Allah in Islam)!" Unless the Quran is at least nearly 100% reliable and true, and unless there is a god behind the book, Islam is unbelief. Superstition to use another word.

234 3/80b: - - - bowed your will (to Allah in Islam) - - -". As all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran proves 100% and more that the Quran is not from any god, there is no god behind the religion of Islam. And as Allah also nowhere and never has in any way provably manifested himself except in the mouth of Muhammad, it also is unlikely in the extreme that he exists, not to mention is a god, this means that it is not Allah they bowed their will to.

Then to whom did the old Muslims of Muhammad bow their wills to? There only are 3 alternatives:

1): The dark forces. A number of immoral and inhuman points in the Quran may indicate this.

2): A mental illness (like TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy). Modern medical science suspects this.

3): One or more cold human brain(s) - f.x. Muhammad's. All the mistakes in the Quran believed to be correct science at the time of Muhammad plus f.x. the fact that all material in the book is from Arabia and neighboring area strongly indicates this, and the same does all the times Allah(?) helped Muhammad personally.

There are no other alternatives.

Also see 45/13a below.

235 3/81a: "Behold, Allah took a Covenant of the Prophets (here not Muhammad, but some of the old Jewish ones and perhaps some of the others Muhammad claimed were sent to different people during the millennia) saying: 'I give you a Book and Wisdom; then comes to you a Messenger (here indicated Muhammad*) confirming what is with him; you must believe in him and render him help.' Allah said: 'Do ye agree, and take this covenant as binding on you?' They said: 'We agree'". This is not from the Bible, and there also is nothing similar to this in the Bible, not in connection with one single of the many Israeli/Jewish prophets, not to mention in connection to Jesus - but if Muhammad's followers were able to believe in this - and they were - it was good propaganda for Muhammad. No more comments necessary.

This is one of the places where Islam claims the Quran claims (wrongly) that Muhammad is foretold in the Bible/Scriptures (you have other places, f.x. in 7/157). The fact that this is said in the Quran, is the reason why Muslims cannot afford to admit that Muhammad is not mentioned in that book at all, and the reason why they cherry-pick and twists and (mis)quote out of contexts to be able to arrive at wished conclusions which may indicate that Muhammad may have been meant. Muslims too often do not look for the truth, but for - by honest or dishonest means - trying to prove that the Quran, or points in it, is/are true. Also see 3/183b below.

Another point: It is claimed the prophets promised to help Muhammad. But the last Jewish prophets had been gone for centuries before Muhammad started his mission - something an omniscient god would have known. How could they help him?

And just for the record: There is nowhere in the Quran said where and when a covenant with Muhammad and his followers was made.

236 3/81b: "I (Allah*) give you (prophets of the old time*) a Book (Muhammad claimed all prophets got a book similar to the Quran - a copy of the claimed "Mother of the Book" in Paradise, revered by Allah and his angels*) and Wisdom - - -". No book of a quality similar to the Quran ever was delivered by a god - and as for wisdom: Try to find reliable wisdom among the hundreds and more of mistaken facts and other errors in the Quran. You may like or dislike the message of the Bible, but its quality and its contents of wisdom are several grades higher up.

More essential just here: There is not found one single trace or quotation from or reference to a book similar to the Quran - which Muhammad as mentioned claimed all earlier prophets/messengers had received, able to read or not - older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission, anywhere in the world, not to mention in the Middle East or Israel.

237 3/81c: "- - - then comes to you (the old Israeli/Jewish prophets*) a Messenger - - -". A foretelling about Muhammad - in the Quran, and half a millennium or more after the last ones claimed involved were dead.

238 3/81d: "'Do ye (the prophets of the old*), and take this my (Allah's*) Covenant (that they should believe in Muhammad and help him*) as binding to you?' They said: 'We agree'". Very nice for Muhammad, but the whole verse is nonsense: The last ones of the old prophets were dead 500 - 600 years before this surah was published - not one of them could neither believe in nor help Muhammad - - - it is just as far out as when Muslims claim that when John (14/16-17) speaks about the Holy Spirit, he in reality meant that Muhammad should come and be the helper of the disciples 500 - 600 years after they all were dead.

239 3/82: "If any turn back (leaves Islam or refuse to believe in Islam*) after this, they are perverted transgressors". Non-Muslims are perverted transgressors - not strange Muslims often feel superior to non-Muslims and/or do not want to mingle with them or to be integrated among them. One more of Muhammad's slandering names for non-Muslims.

240 3/83a: "Do they (non-Muslims*) seek for other than the Religion of Allah? - while all creatures in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth have, willing or unwilling, bowed to His Will (accepted Islam) - - -. Even if we omit the fact that the Bible talks about Yahweh and not about Allah: There is no text like this in the Bible, and thus this claim is not from the Bible.

But it also is one of the many easy and often big claims you find in the Quran - totally without any value, because any believer in any religion can make just the same claims on behalf of his/her god(s) as free of charge as the claims were for Muhammad, as long as they can flee from any requests for proof - just like Muhammad did. If the old books, included the Quran, tell the truth, both Yahweh and Jesus proved their power, but Allah and Muhammad only had fast words - the hallmark of cheats and deceivers.

The quote also is anthropomorphism - the belief that dead things, plants, and animals can have human faculties - something you normally find in primitive religions and cultures, in superstition, and in fairy tales.

241 3/83b: "- - - the Religion of Allah - - -". As the Quran provably is not from a god - no god ever delivered that quality book - then who's religion was - and is - it really?

242 3/83c: "- - - all creatures in the heavens (plural and wrong*) have, willing or unwilling, bowed to His (Allah's*) Will (accepted Islam) - - -". One more of Muhammad's many, many never documented easy claims - claims any believer in any real or made up religion can make as free of charge as Muhammad did, on behalf of his/her god(s), as long as they could evade all requests for proofs like Muhammad did.

By the way: When did you last see all cows of the US or all the camels of Saudi Arabia in unison and 5 times a day - willing or unwilling - kneel in prayer towards Mecca?

Things like this you do not find in the Bible.

Some of the claims in the Quran are not impressive.

243 3/83d: "- - - all creatures in the heavens (plural and wrong*) have, willing or unwilling, bowed to His (Allah's*) Will (accepted Islam) - - -". Anthropomorphism - the belief that animals, etc. can be like humans. You normally find it in primitive religions and cultures, superstition, and in fairy tales./p>

244 3/83e: "- - - to Him (Allah*) shall they all be brought back (at the Day of Doom*)". According to the Bible every human will be brought back to Yahweh, not to Allah.

245 3/84a: "- - - revealed to us (Muhammad*) - - -". See 2/285b above.

246 3/84b: "- - - what revealed to us (Muhammad*) and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the (12 Israelian*) Tribes, and (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord (here intended to be Allah*) - - -". One of Muhammad's many, but never documented (typical for him) claims saying that the old Jewish and Christian religion really was Islam, but the bad Jews and Christians falsified it. See 3/19a above.

We may add that there is no indication in the Bible for that Ishmael ever got revelations from the god - but the claim was a tactical necessity to give the Arab's forefathers status. There also is nothing in the Bible about Moses and/or Jesus being given books. Moses was given the law, which he himself wrote down and called it "the Book of Covenance" (2. Mos. 24/7). Jesus read from the scriptures in the synagogues, but there is nowhere said he owned books himself. Other places in the Quran it is said Jesus got the Gospel, which is nonsense, as the Gospels did not exist until a few decades after Jesus had gone to Heaven.

Islam will have to bring some proofs for once, not only claims. Also see 16/78 above.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

247 3/84c: "- - - to Allah do we (Muslims*) bow our will (in Islam)". See 3/80b above.

248 3/85a: "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him (Allah*) - - -". This does not matter very much if Allah does not exist and/or if he is not a powerful god - and according to the Bible the only god is Yahweh.

249 3/85b: "- - - in the Hereafter he (the non-Muslim) will be in the ranks of those who have lost - - -". According to the Bible it is the other way around, at least for followers of Yahweh.

250 3/86a: "How shall Allah guide - - -". He can guide nobody unless he exists - and in no case he is a reliable guide if he uses the Quran with all its errors as a guidebook.

251 3/86b: "How shall Allah guide those who reject faith (leave Islam*) after they accepted it and bore witness - - -". You meet Muslims claiming no-one leaves Islam. Here is one of the proofs in the Quran itself for that it happened already at that time.

252 3/86c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c and the other comments under 7/157 below.

253 3/86d: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) was true - - -". See 2/26 above.

254 3/86e: "- - - Clear Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/96a above and 4/140b below.

255 3/86f: "And Allah guides not - - -". See 3/86a above.

256 3/86g: "- - - unjust - - -". See 2/21b above.

257 3/87: "- - - the curse of Allah - - -". Does not exist unless he exists and is a god - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Also see 3/19a above.

258 3/88: "In that (Hell*) they (non-Muslims*) will dwell - - -". According to the Bible the followers of Yahweh will not be among them. But according to the same book all others may be in trouble.

259 3/89: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are 2 of them. The names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Kind, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft-Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the easy, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

Besides: Please read the surahs from Medina once more - and once more skip the big glorifying words and judge from the reality like deeds, demands, introduced codes of moral and behavior, etc. (reality is much more reliable than big and cheap words). How much of f.x. real mercy, etc. do you find?

An afterthought: Also read NT and compare: Who is most merciful and most forgiving, etc. of Yahweh and Allah if both books tell the truth on this point - especially if you compare the surahs from Medina - which according to Islam's rules for abrogation are the "weightiest" ones - to NT and its New Covenant?

260 3/90a: "But those who reject faith (Islam*) after they accept it - - -". This is more or less the gravest ting a Muslim can do according to Islam - and a wise thing to do according to the Bible, at least if you start following Yahweh.

261 3/90b: "- - - never will their (people who have left Islam for a long time, but in the end wants back*) repentance be accepted - - -". Compare this with "the 11. hour" in NT (Matt. 20/8-13). Yahweh and Allah not the same god.

262 3/90c: "- - - they (Muslims leaving Islam*) are those who have (of set purpose) gone astray". Who are most astray? - the ones blindly following a book full or errors and worse, told by a man of doubtful moral and reliability, but with much to gain from making people believing in his new religion? - or the ones seeing that things were and are horribly wrong in his teaching, and understand what this means?

Also see the sinister 34/50a below.

263 3/91a: "As to those who reject faith (Islam*) - - -". Similar to 3/90a+b+c above.

264 3/91b: "- - - and they (non-Muslims*) will find no helpers". According to the Bible Yahweh is a good and reliable helper, at least for his followers.

265 3/92a: "- - - righteousness - - -". See 2/21b above.

266 3/92b: "- - - unless ye (Muslims*) give (freely*) of that which ye love (money and riches*) - - -". There were poor ones who needed help, but as essential: To wage war - and raids - cost money, and Muhammad always could need some for his war-chest.

267 3/92c: "- - - of a truth Allah knoweth it well". Not unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved - the never disappearing fact.

268 3/92d: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

269 3/93: "All food was lawful to the Children of Israel, except what Israel made unlawful for itself, before the Law (of Moses) was revealed". This be as it may, though nothing like this is said in the Bible, but the thing is that the Quran other places in the book claims the restrictions on food for the Jews (kosher food) were a punishment for sins. There is not one such word in the entire Bible.

####An extra comment here about laws: Many Muslims refer to that Jesus said he did not come to change the old laws, and claim that the old Mosaic laws thus must rule also Christians - and that Christians are sinning against them. But they conveniently skip that he added "until everything is accomplished" (f.x. Matt.5/18), and also skip that he on the cross added "it is finished" (John 19/30) - everything was accomplished (and may be enough was accomplished even before). As many of the Islamic Laws are closer to the old Mosaic laws than to the milder ones introduced by Jesus, and to find sins among opponents, it was essential also for Muhammad to stress that Jesus just was confirming the old Mosaic laws, f.x. concerning food. That the claim was not true, did not matter much to him, and does not matter much to Islam of today (though to be honest we think most Muslims do not know better). But even the Quran in 5/15c confirms that the god changed old laws. And f.x. Matt.5/34-36, Matt. 5/43-44, Matt. 12/3-12, Matt. 15/11-20, Luke 14/5, and Peter's sights in Acts 10/10-16 made it clear that Jesus and/or Yahweh changed laws - and Mark 7/14-19 and not least the Quran in 3/50a directly confirm that Jesus did change some of the old laws - even though that clearly was not the reason why he came to Earth.

270 3/94a: "If any - - - invent a lie and attribute it to Allah, they are indeed unjust wrongdoers". Somebody made up the Quran and attributed it to Allah. Is the one who does misdeeds an unjust wrongdoer? (The most likely suspect is Muhammad.)

271 3/94b: "- - - unjust wrongdoers - - -". See 2/21b above.

272 3/95a: "Allah speaketh the Truth - - -". In that case it is not he who has made the Quran. Also see 2/26 above.

273 3/95b: "- - - follow the religion of Abraham - - -". But according to the Bible Abraham's religion was belief in Yahweh, not in Allah. There are some things which may indicate that the Bible is right (f.x. that El - an earlier name for Yahweh - is a very old Semitic god), but strong, at least circumstantial proofs, for that the Quran is wrong here.

For Abraham also see 2/124a, 2/125a, 2/127a and 2/128a above and 22/78c and 14/37b below.

274 3/96a: "The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that of Bakkah (another name for Mecca*) - - -". And all the same - and in spite of being the most holy place on Earth for Allah according to Islam - it is never even hinted at in the Bible - and not one of the old Israeli/Jewish prophets, included Abraham, Moses, and Jesus even hinted a wish to go there for a pilgrimage or whatever. A very clear proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

Another question is: How old or young is the Kabah really? Modern science is able to find at least the approximate age of even the oldest parts, but as far as we have found, Islam has not tried to find out - it is highly unlikely Kabah is as old as Muhammad claimed, so best not find out. (It is unlikely it is older than Mecca, and Mecca was not a very old town at the time of Muhammad).

275 3/96b: "- - - (the Kabah mosque*) full of blessing and guidance - - -". And even so neither Yahweh, Jesus, nor any of the Jewish prophets, included Abraham and Moses - and Jesus - mentioned the place even once in the Bible, not to mention made pilgrimage there, or expressed any wish to go there - not in the entire Bible. Thus the fact that Kabah and Mecca are so top holy for Allah, but totally without any interest for Yahweh, is one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. And as Jesus never went there or even mentioned it, is a strong proof for that he was not in the same religion as Muhammad - not a Muslim. (Also the historical fact that there was no religion similar to Islam and no god similar to Allah at that time in that part - or anywhere else - in the Roman Empire, proves the same.)

276 3/97a: "- - - Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below. A claim does not grow truer from simply being wrongly repeated frequently. But as the infamous Nazi "Minister of Propaganda" said: "If a lie is repeated often enough, people start believing in it".

277 3/97b: "- - - the Station of Abraham - - -". A stone near the Kabah mosque with marks in it which can remind of foot-marks. There are legends claiming Abraham made the marks when he built the Kabah. It is not mentioned in the Bible. It also is extremely unlikely Abraham ever visited Arabia, not to mention Mecca - there is not one historical indication for it, but lots of indications against. And even if he had done so, for one thing there was not one reason for him to build a big temple there, and for another two Bedouins - like Abraham and Ishmael were - would not be able to build it (even a rich man like Abraham would not have the resources, he would not have the know-how - and he could not spend that much time that far away from home. Muslims like to indicate Abraham and Ishmael built it in some weeks, but when the enormously rich King Solomon built the Temple in Jerusalem - and it was not big (90 by 30 feet - 27 by 9 m) - he used 7 years and literally thousands of workers, lots of them highly skilled ones (1. Kings chapters 5 and 6). The Kabah itself today is to be exact 11.03 m x 12.86 m - and 13.1 high (some 36 x 42 x 43 feet). But at one end of the Kabah, but detached from the building there is a semi-circle stone wall, and according to Muslim tradition Abraham's Kabah had roughly the size and form of the present one, if one includes this short prolonging plus the semicircle. We have not found the measures, but comparing drawings it seems like Abraham's claimed Kabah was to the tune of 20 m (some 65 feet) long, or perhaps a little less, and thus approaching Solomon's Temple in area (243 sq. m compared to very roughly 200 - 210 sq. m if our sources are correct). All built by Abraham and Ishmael - Ishmael standing on Abrahams shoulders when placing the topmost stones on the wall. At least according to Muslims.

But Abraham and Ishmael together built the Kabah in one or a few of Abraham's short claimed stays in Mecca. And so big that when Mecca rebuilt it some time before Muhammad started his mission, they rebuilt it smaller than the original foundations (see the measurements just above), according to Islamic literature! But see 2/127a above.

Believe it if you are able to.

Also remember that science clearly says: "It is practically sure that Abraham never visited Mecca" and (A. Guillaume, "Islam" p. 61:) "There is no historical evidence for the assertion that Abraham or Ishmael was ever in Mecca, and if there had been such a tradition, it would have to be explained how all memory of the old Semitic name Ishmael (which was known in its true Arabian form in Arabian inscriptions and correctly written with an initial consonant Y (= Yshmael*) came to be lost. The form in the Quran (Ishmael*) is taken either from Greek or Syriac sources". In other words he says that it is very unlikely Abraham or Ishmael ever visited Mecca, and if Ishmael all the same settled there, his name would have been made Arabic within days or a few years - why then is his name taken from Greek or Syriac = Christian books? (Christians in this area used Greek or Syriac for their holy scriptures, Jews mainly Hebrew or Aramaic).

The claim that Abraham built the Kabah, the scientists sometimes does not even bother to comment on.

For Abraham also see 2/124a, 2/125a, 2/127a and 2/128a above and 22/78c and 14/37b below.

278 3/97c: "- - - pilgrimage thereto (the Kabah mosque in Mecca*) is a duty men owe to Allah - - -". For Allah this is so essential that it is a duty to all men who can manage and afford it. To Yahweh it is so totally non-interesting that it is not even mentioned - or even hinted at - in the Bible. And no Israeli/Jewish prophet, included, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, ever made a pilgrimage there or expressed any wish to go there, not in the entire Bible. A very clear and strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

279 3/97d: "- - - a duty men owe to Allah - - -". For one thing nobody owes anybody anything, unless the "anybody" has done the first one a service. There is not proved any service to anyone done by Allah - thousands of claims, but not one proved case. And secondly there is the question if Allah ever existed - if not it is ever so clear that nobody ever owed him anything.

And even if it is claimed to be a duty, none of the Israelian prophets, included Jesus, ever went there - neither on pilgrimage nor for any other reason. Not even Abraham or Moses, unless Islam brings strong proofs - but proof, not claims. (The claim that Abraham visited Mecca likely has the same background like when the Mormons claim that Jesus visited America during his last days on Earth - to gain prestige and background for the claimed religion. And with just the same proofs: Nothing. All serious science is unanimous: It is highly unlikely Abraham - or Ishmael - ever even visited Mecca (if they ever existed).

280 3/97e: "- - - Allah stands not in need of any of His creatures". This at least is true if Allah does not exist. If he does, it is very clear from the Quran that he needs, or at least wants them for praise and worship and sacrifices, and not least adoration and glorification.

281 3/98a: "- - - Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below. A claim does not grow truer from simply being wrongly repeated frequently. But as the infamous Nazi "Minister of Propaganda", Göbbles, said: "If a lie is repeated often enough, people start believing in it".

282 3/98b: "- - - Allah is Himself witness to all that ye (Jews/Christians*) do". Not unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Also see 3/19a above. 

The Jews and few Christians knew it was highly unlikely Allah existed, and that he in no case was the same god as Yahweh - too much was wrong in the Quran compared to their old scriptures. 

283 3/99a: "- - - the Path of Allah (to Paradise*) - - -". This does not exist unless Allah exists, and of little interest unless he in addition is something powerful, black or white, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

284 3/99b: "- - - ye (Jews mainly in this case*) were yourselves witness (to Allah's Covenant) - - -". But according to the Bible the Jews were witnesses to some covenants with Yahweh, not with Allah. The old Jews and Christians knew the differences.

285 3/99c: "- - - Allah is not unmindful of all that ye (Jews/Christians*) do". A parallel to 3/98b above.

286 3/100: "If ye (Muslims*) listen to a faction of the People of the Book (Mainly Jews and Christians*), they would (indeed) render you apostates after ye have believed (in Muhammad's new religion*)". Apostates compared to Islam, but believers compared to the Bible - and that is a good idea according to the Bible.

287 3/101a: "- - - how would you (Muslims*) deny Faith (Islam*) while unto you are rehearsed the Signs of Allah, and among you live the Messenger?" This might be difficult for Muslims, but ever so easy for non-Muslims able to see that not one of Muhammad's claimed "signs" were logically valid, who knew that a lot of what he claimed the old scriptures said was not correct, and who knew that through history there have been thousands of false prophets.

288 3/101b: "- - - Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below. A claim does not grow truer from simply being wrongly repeated frequently. But as the infamous Nazi "Minister of Propaganda", Göbbels, said: "If a lie is repeated often enough, people start believing in it".

289 3/101c: "- - - among you (Muslims of Medina*) lives the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". The existence of a self proclaimed messenger/prophet proves exactly nothing as long as he is not a proved to be real messenger/prophet - there have been thousands and more of false prophets through the times, both before and after Muhammad. Muhammad never was able to prove anything concerning his new religion, included that he was unable ever to prove he really represented a god and was not a false prophet.

290 3/101d: "- - - a way that is straight". This was Muhammad's words. Jesus on the other hand talked about the narrow road and the narrow gate leading to Yahweh. It tells something that Muhammad talked about the straight and thus easy road to Paradise, whereas Jesus talked about the narrow and thus difficult road. Populism vs. realism?

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

#291 3/102a: "Fear Allah - - -". What for if he does not exists and is a god - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Also see 3/19a above. Yahweh, on the other hand did prove things, if the old books tell the truth about this - and there are f.x. all the witnesses to what happened around Jesus, which may indicate that something or someone supernatural was involved. We are honestly skeptical, but unlike Allah it is difficult totally to bury Yahweh because of this.

292 3/102b: "- - - die not except in a state of Islam". There is one thing with the Quran which is absolutely sure: All the errors and worse in the Quran proves absolute that there is no god behind the book, and thus behind Islam. It sounds silly if one believes in a next life, to die in a religion where there is no real god - then one can as well die without a religion. And especially it sounds silly to die in such a religion without really having checked if it is a true or made up one - just because one's fathers and neighbors and imams say it must be true because their fathers said it must be true because their fathers said it must be true because - - -. Not to mention that it might have been wise at least to check if there was a religion with a real god somewhere.

293 3/103a: "- - - the Rope which Allah (stretches out to you (Muslims*)) - - -". - is an illusion if Allah does not exist and/or is not something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever). Be careful if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces.

294 3/103b: "- - - remember with gratitude Allah's favor on you (the Arab Muslims in Medina*); for you were enemies (feuding tribes) and He joined your hearts in love (= you became friends*) - - -". Feuding parts have stopped feuding and become friends hundreds of times through history without any Allah. And even if you look at the transforming of the Arab peninsula from a region of feuding tribes to a strong military force, Attila did the same, Djingis Khan did the same, the Zulu king Shaka (or Chaka) did the same, and even Bismarck in a more modern way did the same, and in none of those cases there was any Allah involved. But by giving Allah the credit for it in his case, Muhammad strengthened his new religion.

295 3/103c: "- - - His (Allah's*) Grace - - -". See 2/105b and 2/221b above.

296 3/103d: "Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear - - -". If Allah did not exist, Allah did not do so. Who was it then who really did so, or claimed Allah did so? - and what are such signs worth if they are not from a god?

297 3/103e: "- - - Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b and 36/33 below.

298 3/103f: "- - - guided - - -". There is not much guidance in a guidebook like the Quran.

299 3/104a: "Let there arise out of you (Muslims*) a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong". Look at Islam as described in the Quran, and especially in the surahs from Medina, and compare it with "do to others like you want others do to you". Look at Islam's treatment of women and compare it to "do to others like you want others do to you". Look at Islam's military - and slave/slave hunting - history and compare it to "do to others like you want others do to you". Look at at least parts of Islam today and compare it to "do to others like you want others do to you".

The quoted prayer was in vain.

300 3/104b: "- - - good - - - right - - - wrong - - -". See 2/21b above.

301 3/105a: "- - - Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b and 36/33 below.

302 3/105b: "- - - for them (non-Muslims*) is a dreadful Penalty (Hell*) - - -". According to the Bible this is not the case for followers of Yahweh. But Muslims may be in the zone of danger according to that book.

303 3/106: "- - - the Penalty for rejecting Faith". There is no divine penalty for rejecting a religion based on a book so full of errors and worse, that it is not from any god. But of course the believers also in made up religion can punish the ones who are skeptical - it has happened in many a false religion if it was inhuman enough. Look to Iran, who now is going to hang anybody who leaves Islam! 2/256 says: "Let there be no compulsion in religion". Hypocrisy.

304 3/107a: "But those whose faces will be (lit with) white (good Muslims*) - they will be in (the light of) Allah's mercy (= heading for the Paradise*), therein to dwell (for ever)". To end in Paradise you according to the Bible have to follow Yahweh, not Allah. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

As a "brother" of al-Takiyya and Kitman, etc., we should also mention the tradition for "Hilah": A "device to stop, hinder, or trick - - -. Strategm to avoid or circumvent legal prinsiples or rigid constructs. - - - utilized - - - to solve contradictions between (political powers, cultural choises, etc*) and Quranic principles". (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). In plain words: ways/tricks of seemingly or formally being honest or correct, while in reality being dishonest or incorrect. It seems that this aspect of "the religion of truth" was first campained of the Hanifi law school, but later utilized also by the other 3 Muslim law schools. "Hilah" is dishonesty in disguice. True honesty is not always central in Islam and among Islam's religious and moral forefront.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

305 3/107b: "- - - therein (Paradise*) to dwell (for ever) - - -". But 11/107a and 11/108 may indicate it is not really forever. Muslims explains this away with that it just means the resurrected there will be placed to an even better place - not too difficult as the Quran's Paradise is too primitive to be worthy of an omniscient and omnipotent god - but the Quran does not say so, which means this is a made up "explanation". There is no similar indication in the Bible.

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

306 3/108a: "- - - Signs of Allah - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b and 36/33 below.

307 3/108b: "- - - Truth - - -". See 2/26 above.

308 3/108c: "- - - Allah means no injustice to any of His creatures". If you believe that, then read the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, its code of behavior towards non-Muslims, its code of behavior during and after wars (f.x. thousands and thousands of Muslim women raped in the Bangladesh/Pakistan war - and rape is standard when Muslims invade others), and the unjust parts of its judicial code (sharia law), etc.

309 3/109a: "To Allah belongs all that is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". According to the Bible it belongs to Yahweh. Both books cannot be right here. Besides it cannot belong to Allah unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).(We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their pagan god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception only are built on other not proved claims (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus states that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "A claim without a proof can be dismissed without a proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. The "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or something else central in his religion.)

In addition: When Muslims claim or state things, demand proofs (or dismiss what they claim) - Muslims have no valid proof for any central point in their entire religion.

####310 3/109b: "- - - to Him do all questions go back (for decision)". This obscure small sentence is one of the most central one in all the Quran, as it is one of the sentences which directly and unmistakably states that Allah decides EVERYTHING - you and anybody else just are puppets-on-a-string doing what Allah predestines you shall do - god or bad. But even if is Allah who decides and predestines every detail in everybody's life, the good things he makes you do are rewarded (and honored by Allah), whereas the bad things he makes you do - forces you to do - you are punished for.

There is nothing like this in the Bible - there the free will of man is real.

Islam and Muslims try in many ways to explain the conflict between Allah's total predestination and the claimed free - or partly free - will of man, which makes reward and punishment fair and just, but they have found no way to solve the problem. The feeble defence is that "we cannot explain free will of man when Allah predestines everything, but it has to be true, because Allah says so in the Quran" (!!!) (f.x. Muhammad Azad: "The Message of the Quran’s comment to verse 6/149).

Convincing?

311 3/109c: "- - - (for decision) - - -". Allah can decide nothing unless he exists and is a god.

312 3/110a: "Ye (Muslims*) are the best of people - - -". No comments, except look at Islam's history, and look at the places in the world where the religion Islam dominates the daily life and where the influence from the outside has been limited - North Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, primitive parts of Muslim Africa, of lately Iran, etc. Also see 3/104a above.

313 3/110b: "- - - right - - - wrong - - -". See 2/21b above.

314 3/110c: "If only the People of the Book (Jews and Christians mainly*) had faith, it were best for them - - -". According to the Bible true Jews and Christians have faith, but in Yahweh, not in Allah.

####315 3/110d: "- - - most of them (Jews and Christians*) are perverted transgressors". If someone uses words like this about Muslims in a newspaper, there are screams about discrimination, etc., etc. But not a word is said when Islam uses such words about non-Muslims, not in newspapers but in their widely distributed sacred and holy book. No comment necessary - use your own brain about this fact. One of Muhammad's many negative and slandering names for non-Muslims.

316 3/111: "They (Israelites and Christians*) will do you no harm, barring trifling annoyance; if they come out to fight you, they will show you (Muslims*) their backs (= they will flee*) - - -". Romancing war - or at least telling it is not dangerous. Such things you do not find from Jesus. A proof for that Jesus and Muhammad were not from the same religion or with similar moral codes.

317 3/112a: "- - - (- - - protection) from Allah - - -". Allah can protect nobody - Muslim or non-Muslim - unless he exists and is a god, something all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran proves beyond both reasonable and unreasonable doubts that he does and is not. Add the fact that he nowhere inside or outside the Quran any time during the history of man in any way has manifested himself, except in the mouth of Muhammad, and the chances for that he even exists are infinitesimal. Yahweh and Jesus at least proved some of what they told, if the old books - included the Quran - tell the truth, but Allah and Muhammad just had never documented big words and claims - hallmarks of cheats and deceivers.

318 3/112b: "- - - the wrath of Allah - - -". Does not exist unless Allah exists, and does not mean anything unless he in addition to existing is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

319 3/112c: "- - - Signs of Allah - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

320 3/112d: "- - - (the Israelites/Jews*) slew the Prophets - - -". Please read the Bible and see how many of the prophets who really were killed - a few. This verse also contains some of Muhammad's normal slander of non-Muslims. It often pays for a leader to slander opponents + it may increase the distaste/distrust and distance between his followers and the opponents, so that it reduces the contact between them, and thus the chances for influence from the opponents on his followers, and also makes it easier to claim the opponents are enemies and sub-humans, like Muhammad and Islam did and often still do.

321 3/112e: "- - - slew the (real*) Prophets in defiance of right - - -". Can any Muslim please tell us when it is right to slew a (real) prophet?

322 3/113a: "- - - (- - - the right) - - -". See 2/21b above.

323 3/113b: "- - - they (Jews and Christians*) rehearse the Signs of Allah all night long - - -". They hardly bothered about the claimed signs of Allah at all - they addressed Yahweh. But of course it sounded better to Muhammad's follower to claim what Muhammad told here. Also see 16/78 above.

324 3/113c: "- - - Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

325 3/114a: "They (Jews and Christians*) believe in Allah - - -". A parallel to 3/113b just above.

326 3/114b: "- - - right - - - wrong - - - good works - - - righteous - - -". See 2/21b above.

327 3/114c: "- - - they (some strongly believing Jews, Christians, Sabeans*) are in the ranks of the righteous". This is one of the few - but not the only - places in the Quran indicating that also honestly believing Jews, Christians, and Sabeans (Christians?) might have a chance to go to Paradise. Another fact is that mild verses like this are abrogated - made invalid - by later and harsher words, as the omniscient god Allah sometimes was unable to hit the best rule at first try and had to abrogate this and that.

328 3/115a: "- - - good - - - right - - -". See 2/21b above.

329 3/115b: "- - - Allah knoweth well those who do right". Not possible unless Allah exists and is a god, neither of which has ever been proved. Besides: If he knows everything, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests, because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc.): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

Also see 16/78 and 29/2 below.

330 3/116a: "Those who reject Faith (Islam - only Islam is Faith in the Quran*) - - - will be Companions of the Fire (= go to Hell)". According to the Bible it is the rejecters of Yahweh, not the rejecters of Allah who are to end in Hell - maximum one of these claims can be right, as the claims are mutually excluding each other. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran).

331 3/116b: "- - - avail them (non-Muslims*) against Allah - - -". Anything will avail anybody against Allah if Allah does not exist and/or is not something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

332 3/116c: "- - - dwelling therein (Hell*) (for ever)". But f.x. 6/128c, 11/107a and 78/23 below indicate that Hell perhaps is not quite forever (and 11/107a and 11/108 the same for Paradise). In the Bible both Hell and Paradise clearly are forever.

#333 3/117: "- - - it is not Allah that hath wronged them (sinners*), but they wronged themselves". This is totally wrong if it is true like the Quran several places states as an absolute truth, that Allah decides and predestines everything that happens in the world, included all that happens in your life. Total predestination and free will - even partly such - are mutually excluding each other, and maximum one of the two claims can be true. Also Muslim scholars have given in to explain this impossibility, and only claim lamely that "it has to be true because Allah says so in the Quran" - f.x Muhammad Azad: "The Message of the Quran", comment to 6/149. (Points like this in the Quran may be a reason why Muslims some places through history have been taught that several things both/all may be true, even if they contradicts each other or like here exclude each other - anyone knowing a little about logic knows that such teaching is wrong, but it is necessary for Islam because there are contradictions in the Quran and also between the "different ways of reading" - the different versions of - the Quran, which are difficult to explain away unless one introduce illogical/wrong logic.)

On the other hand: If Allah does not exist and/or is not a god, it is totally correct that then he wronged nobody.

€€€334 3/118 - 120: Verses of slander. There are a number of them in the Quran - just look for them and you will find them.

##335 3/118a: "O ye who believe (Muslims*)! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks (non-Muslims*) - - -". = Do not make friends with or mingle too much with non-Muslims. This verse is one of the reasons why Muslims often are reluctant to mix with non-Muslims, and reluctant to be integrated in non-Muslim societies and culture. There are many such verses in the Quran - for leaders of extreme sects it often pays to create distance between their followers and "the others", so that correcting thoughts or facts shall not reach the followers - and in case of aggressive groups , be it religious or f.x. political ones, this also makes it more easy for the leaders to make "enemies" out of "the others", like parts of Islam does.(Look f.x. at Iran: Aggressive so that they get negative reactions = "proofs" for that more or less all the world are their enemies wanting to attack the peaceful land of Iran and the only "right" religion, "because they detest their 'religion of peace'". Worse: If Iran gets the atomic bomb - and they are well on their way - they are the typical kind of community - or leaders - which will use such one "if the bad enemies force us to do so", just like Hitler or Saddam Hussein had used it at the end of their reigns if they had had some.)

##336 3/118b: "O ye who believe (Muslims*)! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks (non-Muslims): they will not fail to corrupt you." Non-Muslims are bad and will have bad influence on you. If non-Muslims had written things like this in a newspaper, there had been strong answers accusing the writer for discrimination and other strong and bad things. In Islam it is not only in newspapers, but official policy in their "holy" book - and hardly anybody protests (least of all Muslims or Muslim scholars or religious leaders themselves - when did you ever hear a Muslim scholar or leader of any kind say that such points in the Quran - there are a number - are wrong?).

337 3/118c: "O ye who believe (Muslims*)! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks (non-Muslims): they will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: what their hearts conceal is far worse". Similar to 3/118b just above, but stronger. It is easy to understand why Muslims resist integrating in normal cultures, and why they prefer not to mingle with non-Muslims.

338 3/118d: "We (Allah*) have made plain to you (Muslims*) the Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

339 3/118e: "- - - plain to you the Signs, if you (people/Muslims*) have wisdom". Again Muhammad is playing on people's wish to be respected and on the ones unsure about themselves who are led by what others - the leaders - say and pretend to mean: "The leader and 'the others' say that this and this indicates wisdom, whereas disbelief indicates stupidity - and we want to be respected and liked and be among the wise ones". Muhammad used this kind of psychology and manipulation of the naive and the ones not too wise a lot in the Quran. Just look for it in the book, and you will find it.

340 3/118f: "We (Allah*) have made plain to you (Muslims*) the Signs, if ye have wisdom". Muhammad as said knew at least elementary psychology: Who among primitive, uneducated, and naive desert dwellers and warriors would not like to be reckoned among the ones with wisdom, and who would risk being marked and socially stigmatized as persons without wisdom?

Muhammad knew how to handle people.

(But who really is wise? - the one blindly and naively believing in a book choke full of mistakes and worse, and thus clearly not from a god? - or the one able to see at least some of those mistakes, and also able to understand what they mean?)

341 3/119a: A verse of slander. There are a number of them in the Quran - just look for them and you will find them.

342 3/119b: "- - - ye (Muslims*) believe in the whole of the Book". Muhammad claimed Jews and Christians originally had received the Quran - many times - but had falsified it and just kept bits and pieces from it - the rest of the Bible was made up, he claimed. This never documented - normal for Muhammad - claim is thoroughly proved wrong by both science and - against their will and wish - by Islam.

343 3/119c: "- - - the Book - - -". The Quran's use of this word is somewhat confusing, because sometimes it means the Bible, sometimes it means the wrongly claimed "original, not falsified" Bible similar to the Quran (such a Bible has never existed unless Muslims really prove so), and sometimes the word refers to the Quran. One has to look at the context to find out. Here it means the Quran.

344 3/119d: "- - - Allah knoweth well all the secrets of the heart". See 3/115b above.

345 3/120a: "If aught good befalls you (Muslims*), it grieves them (non-Muslims*), but if some misfortune overtakes you, they rejoice at it". Non-Muslims are bad people and detestable. A parallel to 3/118b above.

Another verse of slander. There are a number of them in the Quran - just look for them and you will find them. 

346 3/120b: "- - - Allah compasseth around about (= sees and stops*) all that they (bad non-Muslims*) do". Not possible unless he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad - - - and besides the accusations against non-Muslims often are more slander than truth.

347 3/121a: "Remember that morning (at Uhud*) thou (Muhammad*) didst leave thy household (early) to post the Faithful (Muslims*) at their stations for battle - - -". (Muhammad had provoked Mecca so much with his raids, robbing, extortion, and killing, that they attacked him to stop it in 625 AD.) Try - just try - to find a similar sentence about Jesus - or Jesus as a robber baron - anywhere in the Bible! Two very different gods, two very different "holy" books, two extremely different representatives for those two gods and religions - to claim Jesus and Muhammad were in the same line of prophets means just one thing; you do not know what you are talking about (and on top of this Muhammad was no real prophet as he was unable to make prophesies).

348 3/121b: "- - - Allah heareth and knoweth all things - - -". See 3/115b above.

349 3/122: "- - - in Allah should the Faithful (Muslims*) (ever) put their trust". A bit dangerous - and in vain - if Allah does not exist or for other reasons is not a god - like f.x. the Bible indirectly but very clearly tells. After all Allah only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc. - it is unlikely in the extreme that he exists, and if he all the same exists, it is even more unlikely he is correctly described in a small book containing perhaps 3ooo mistakes and worse (f.x. the use of invalid logic and the use of lies), dictated by a man of doubtful moral and reliability, but with much to gain from making people believe in his new religion and platform of power.

350 3/123a: "Allah had helped you (Muslims*) at Badr - - -". At least it was good policy and psychology for Muhammad to claim so - like always without the slightest proof. (There is no military reason to claim help from a god as an explanation for what happened. Besides: If Allah does not exist and/or is not something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved, it is for sure he did not intervene.)

Another fact: If even one angel had showed himself on the side of the Muslims, the Meccans had fled without a fight - the ones who did not become instant Muslims. There was no such angel. Why did the good and benevolent god of "the Religion of Peace" instead prefer a battle?

351 3/123b: "- - - fear Allah - - -". What for if he does not exist and/or is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved?

352 3/124: "Is it not enough for you (Muslims*) that Allah should help you with three thousand angels (specially) sent down (to fight in a battle together with you*)". One thing is: Why did an omnipotent god have to send angels to fight in order to decide a battle? (Also see 3/123a above.) Another thing: You never hear Jesus wanting angels to take part in armed combat on a battlefield on Earth. And not least: This is one of Muhammad's nearly legion fast talked and easy, but never proved claims - a hallmark of cheaters and deceivers.

353 3/125: A parallel to 3/124 just above. (Also see 3/123a above.)

354 3/126a: "Allah made it but a message of hope for you (Muslims*) - - -". Allah made nothing unless he existed and was something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

355 3/126b: "- - - there is no help except from Allah - - -". Well, the Bible says there is no help except from Yahweh. Maximum one of them can be right.

356 3/126c: "- - - Allah, the Exalted - - -". He in case never provably has showed any exalted power. Besides according to the Bible the only one really exalted in power is Yahweh.

357 3/126d: "- - - Allah, - - - Wise". Not if he delivered the Quran.

358 3/127: "- - - He (Allah*) might cut off the fringe of the Unbelievers - - -". Again: Allah can do nothing unless he exists, and very little unless he in addition is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

359 3/128a: "Not for thee (Muhammad/Muslims/people*), (but for Allah), is the decision - - -". Allah decides and predestines everything. See 3/109b and 3/117 above.

360 3/128b: "Not for thee (Muhammad/Muslims/people*), (but for Allah), is the decision: whether He turn in mercy to them (non-Muslims), or punish them - - -". Who reminded Muhammad of this f.x. when he later murdered all the men of the Qurayza tribe (some 700) and took the women and children for slaves - and raped Rayhana bint Amer and took her for his sex slave himself?

361 3/128c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) are indeed wrong-doers". Non-Muslims are no-good - stay away from them, suppress them and if necessary kill them, as they are not worth much.

362 3/128d: "- - - wrong-doers - - -". See 2/21b above.

363 3/129a: "To Allah belongeth all that is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth". According to the Bible this all belongs to Yahweh - both books cannot be right here.

#364 3/129b: "He (Allah*) forgiveth whom He pleaseth and punisheth whom He wants". Yahweh forgives everyone who asks for it and deserves it - f.x. because of honest regret - and he only punishes the ones who deserves it.

Another fact is that Allah can forgive no-one unless he exists and is a god, something circumstantial and empirical proof in and outside the Quran prove he is not - and these proofs are nearly of mathematical strength. (The proofs for that the Quran is not from an omniscient god, are of mathematical strength - but one thing which signifies most religious people in all religions included Islam, is their ability to believe not because of proofs, but in spite of being proved wrong - one simply denies the proofs (like Muslims do with the hundreds of proved mistakes in the Quran). Man's ability to believe what he wishes to believe, is strong.))

365 3/129c: "- - - Allah is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful". See 3/89 above.

366 3/130: "- - - fear Allah that ye (Muslims*) may (really) prosper". Why fear him if he does not exist or for other reasons is not something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved? - and how can in case reverence of a not existing or pagan god help you to really prosper?

367 3/131: "Fear the Fire (Hell*), which is prepared for those (non-Muslims*) who reject Faith (the Quran*)". According to the Bible, Hell is for the ones who reject the Bible and Yahweh. Both books cannot be right here.

368 3/132a: "- - - obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". NT says obey Yahweh and follow Jesus. There is an ocean between the possible meanings - and between Jesus and Muhammad. Besides this is a strengthened version of Muhammad's standard mantra to glue himself to his god and platform of power.

Besides:

1. No omniscient god could or would use a vice-king telling lots of wrong facts and other errors, etc. like Muhammad and the Quran do.

2. No omniscient god would use a helpless language where the believers again and again and again have to explain "what the god really means" to explain away errors, contradictions, invalid logic, etc., and especially not so in a book the god himself repeatedly and clearly tells shall be understood literally if nothing else is indicated.

3. No good and benevolent would start a religion run by a vice-king representing suppression, slave taking, rape, apartheid, fascism, murder, and war, like Muhammad.

4. No god of a religion of honesty and truth would use for his vice king a robber baron accepting or even inciting to dishonesty in deeds and words - stealing/looting, extortion, and the use of lies, half-truths, deception, and even broken words/promises/oaths (f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

369 3/132b: "- - - Messenger - - -". See 7/157a-c and the other comments under 7/157 below.

370 3/132c: "- - - that ye (Muslims*) may obtain mercy (from Allah*)". Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the easy, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. (reality is much more reliable than big and cheap words). How much of f.x. real mercy, etc. do you find?

An afterthought: Also read NT and compare: Who is most merciful and most forgiving, etc. of Yahweh and Allah if both books tell the truth on this point - especially if you compare the surahs from Medina - which according to Islam's rules for abrogation are the "weightiest" ones - to NT and its New Covenant?

371 3/133a: "- - - forgiveness from your (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) - - -". Allah can forgive exactly no-one unless he exists and in addition is a god. Besides even if he exists and is a god, he cannot forgive anyone, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to several statements in the Quran.

372 3/133b: "- - - Garden - - -". The Quran's Paradise - similar to a primitive, naive, uneducated desert warrior's dream about a king's lazy royal life among his concubines. The enormous differences between Yahweh's and Allah's paradises are a 100%+ proof for that the two gods are not the same one.

373 3/133c: "- - - righteous - - -". See 2/21b above.

374 3/134a: "Those who spend (freely) - - -". There were several things you could spend for, but the main things were for the poor and for financing Muhammad's raids and wars. Jesus, too, liked you spent for the poor, but he abhorred armed fighting, dishonesty (stealing/looting like Muhammad and his followers now - 625 AD - lived from), and war. Two very different men in two very different religions - and serving two very different gods.

375 3/134b: "- - - Allah loves those who do good". Allah loves nobody unless he exists.

376 3/134c: "- - - do good". See 2/21b above.

377 3/135a: "- - - something to be ashamed of - - - wronged - - - sins - - -". See 2/21b above.

378 3/135b: "- - - sins - - -". See 2/21b above.

379 3/135c: "- - - and who can forgive sins except Allah?" F.x. Yahweh according to the Bible - and in the Bible Allah is not even mentioned, neither as one who can forgive nor anything else. Well, it is possible he is among "false gods" mentioned there.

And not to forget: Allah can forgive nothing unless he exists and in addition is a god. Besides even if he exists and is a god, he cannot forgive anyone, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to several statements in the Quran.

380 3/135d: "- - - (the wrong) - - -". See 2/21b above.

381 3/136a: "- - - forgiveness from their (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) - - -". See 3/135c above.

382 3/136b: "- - - Garden - - -". The Quran's Paradise - similar to a primitive, naive, uneducated desert warrior's dream about a king's lazy royal life among his concubines. The enormous differences between Yahweh's and Allah's paradises are a 100%+ proof for that the two gods are not the same one.

383 3/136c: "- - - (Paradise is*) an eternal dwelling - - -". But 11/107a and 11/108 may indicate it is not really forever. Muslims explains this away with that it just means the resurrected there will be placed to an even better place - not too difficult as the Quran's Paradise is too primitive to be worthy of an omniscient and omnipotent god - but the Quran does not say so, which means this is a made up "explanation". There is no similar indication in the Bible.

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

384 3/137: "- - - Truth (here = Islam*) - - -". See 2/26 above.

###385 3/138a: "Here (in the Quran*) is a plain statement to men - - -". Here Allah once more tells that what is told in the Quran are plain statements - in other words the texts are easy and clear to understand = to be understood like they are and literally. All the same a standard way for Islam and for Muslims of "explaining" away mistakes and difficult points in the Quran, is to claim the texts mean something different from what they really says - they are parables, allegories, or something they claim. These "explanations" are even more doubtful as the Quran clearly states that to search for hidden meanings are for those "in whose hearts is perversity" only (3/7d), and that only Allah can understand hidden meanings in the book (3/7e).(

386 3/138b: "Here (in the Quran*) is a plain statement to men, a guidance and instruction - - -". According to the Bible the only reliable guidance is in the Bible. And the two "guidebooks" are so widely and deeply different, that both cannot be right. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

387 3/138c: "- - - those who fear Allah (Muslims*)". But why do so if Allah does not exist and/or is not something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved?

388 3/139: "- - - ye (Muslims*) must gain mastery if ye are true in Faith". All the same true Muslims have lost many a battle and many a war - and many a "believer". It does not help too much to be true in a faith, if it is a made up one - and the Quran and all its mistakes, etc. is not from any god.

389 3/140a: "Such days (of varying fortunes (hurt - or lost battles*)) We (Allah*) give to men and men by turns, that Allah may know those that believe - - -". These are claimed to be just more tests. But: This is an unbelievable sentence from a god who claims he knows - and predestines - everything.

Verses where Jesus tests his followers by means of armed fighting you do not find in the Bible.

390 3/140b: "- - - (- - - Truth)". See 2/26 above.

391 3/140c: "- - - Allah loveth not those that do wrong (non-Muslims*)". Allan can love nobody unless he exists and is - till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Also see 3/19a above.

392 3/140d: "- - - those that do wrong". See 2/21b above.

393 3/141: "Allah's object also is to purge those who are true in Faith (Allah*) and to deprive of blessing those that resist Faith (non-Muslims*)". None of which he can do unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever). Also the Bible tells that the followers of Yahweh are safe no matter what.

Another fact: This any omniscient, omnipotent god easily could do without sending them on raids for robbing/stealing, etc. or into wars. Why does the claimed good and benevolent god Allah have to use this cumbersome method? - where is the logic and the reason? (Both logic and reason appears if the "explanations" just were camouflage for Muhammad's need for cheap and willing and obedient warriors.)

394 3/142: "Did ye (Muslims*) think that ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those of you who fought (in raids/battles*) hard (in His Cause (see 2/190a+b above and 2/244a and 29/2 below*)) and remained steadfast (in armed fighting*)?" This kind of qualification for Heaven you find nowhere in the Bible, and especially not in NT. One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not serving the same god or religion (there were oceans - in plural - between Jesus and Muhammad).

But if Allah was omniscient and also predestined everything, like the Quran states several places, so that he not only knew the result of the test on beforehand, but he himself had decided what the result should be, what could he then learn from such tests? There is a total lack of logic here. (Unless the claims about testing was a made up story to give Muhammad more and obedient warriors - then the logic suddenly is complete, as long as we know how willing Muslims are to overlook impossibilities, and believe both in Allah's predestination, claiming battle was not dangerous, and all the same that testing took place.)

Also see 29/2 below.

###395 3/144a: "Muhammad is no more than a Messenger - - -". Many Muslims forgot - and forget today - this. As bad: Nobody knows for whom he was a messenger. The Quran and all its mistakes and worse (the use of invalid logic and the use of lies) prove 100% and more that it was not for a god. Then remain only 3 alternatives:

1): The dark forces. (A number of immoral and inhuman points in the Quran may indicate this).

2): A mental illness (like TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy). Modern medical science suspects this.

3): One or more cold human brain(s) - f.x. Muhammad's. All the mistakes in the Quran believed to be correct science at the time of Muhammad, plus f.x. the fact that all material in the book is from Arabia and neighboring area strongly indicates this - perhaps combined with alternative 2. And also all the times Allah(?) helped Muhammad with f.x. family problems indicates the same.

Also see 45/13a below.

296 3/144b: "- - - Messenger - - -". See 7/157a-c - and the other comments under 7/157 - below.

397 3/144c: "- - - Allah - - - would swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude". Impossible if Allah does not exist or for other reasons is not a god - like f.x. the Bible indirectly but very clearly tells. After all Allah only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc. - it is unlikely in the extreme that he exists, and if he all the same exists, it is even more unlikely he is correctly described in a small book containing perhaps 3ooo mistakes and worse (the use of invalid logic and the use of lies), dictated by a man of doubtful moral and reliability, but with much to gain from making people believe in his new religion and platform of power.

#####398 3/145a: "Nor can a soul die except by Allah's leave, the term (day and hour*) being fixed as by writing". Here is Allah's predestination again, and just this sentence was one of the most essential for the warriors - and not least for Muhammad: Allah had predestined when you are to die (according to Hadiths Allah decides this 5 months before you are born). Because of this you will die at this time no matter what you do. This means it is not dangerous to fight in raids and wars - you will in no case die before the time fixed long time ago by Allah, and the other way around: If your time is up you will die whether you are fighting or sleeping in your bed.

This and similar sentences brought Muhammad many and fearless warriors.

That the claim is wrong (very obvious + easy to prove f.x. by means of statistics) - and that an intelligent man like Muhammad had to know it was wrong - is another case (or may be two other cases, because that an intelligent man like Muhammad knew he was lying, also is a - serious - case). Also see 3/154 below

#399 3/145b: "If any do desire a reward in this life, We (Allah*) shall give it to him (nearly never "her" in the Quran*); and if any do desire a reward in the Hereafter, We shall give it to him". This is one of Muhammad's standard "excuses" for why many did not believe his tales; they were greedy and wanted a good life here on Earth. "We" Muslims of course are more intelligent, and prefer a good life in the possible "hereafter". The Quran never explains how it can give a better life being outside a religion which permits dishonesty, stealing/looting, extortion, slave-taking and other things which made the Muslims rich and powerful.

400 3/145c: "And swiftly shall We (Allah*) reward those that (serve Us with) gratitude". See 3/144c above.

401 3/146a: "How many of the Prophets fought (in Allah's way) - - -". According to the Bible just a very few of the prophets were warriors - and hardly any of them for the case of the god (and exactly none for Allah). The ones who were war leaders were fighting for Israel and its people, not for the religion/god. But said like this, it made the robber baron - later warlord - and self proclaimed prophet sound like he was a normal prophet. Muhammad knew simple psychology and how to manipulate people.

402 3/146b: "- - - Prophets (included Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157e and the other comments under 7/157 below.

403 3/146c: "- - - Allah's Way - - -". - does not exist unless Allah exists and is a god (which all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran strongly indicate is not the case). But beware: If he after all exists, there are indications for that he might belong to the dark forces.

404 3/146d: "And Allah loveth those who are firm and steadfast (in armed fighting*)". Try to find a similar sentence from Jesus! One of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and - to say the least of it - for that Jesus and Muhammad had little, if anything in common mentally, morally, ethically - or in religion.

405 3/147a: "Our (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*)! Forgive us our sins - - -". Allah cannot forgive anybody anything unless he exists and is a god. Besides even if he exists and is a god, he cannot forgive anyone, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to several statements in the Quran.

Another fact is that according to the Bible only Yahweh (and the victim) can forgive.

406 3/147b: "- - - sin - - - transgressed - - -". See 2/21b above.

407 3/148a: "- - - Allah gave them (claimed warrior prophets*) a reward - - -". Not possible unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black.

408 3/148b: "- - - Allah loveth those who do good". Allah loves nobody unless he exists.

409 3/148c: "- - - do good". See 2/21b above.

410 3/149: "- - - ye (Muslims*) will turn back (from Faith (Islam*)) to your own loss". If Allah does not exist and Islam is a made up religion, it is no loss (on the contrary; you save the tax). And if the Bible tells the truth, it simply will be a gain if you instead follow Yahweh.

411 3/150: "- - - Allah is your (Muslims'*) Protector, and He is the best of helpers". Well, according to the Bible Yahweh is the best of helpers - and both cannot be the best. Allah also can be neither protector nor helper unless he exists and is a god. something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception just are built on other not proved claims (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus states that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "A claim without a proof can be dismissed without a proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or something else central in his religion.)

412 3/151a: "Soon shall We (Allah*) cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers - - -". Not possible unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, good or bad..

413 3/151b: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) joined companions (other gods*) with Allah - - -". See 2/22e above.

414 3/151c: "- - - for which He (Allah*) had sent no authority - - -". Allah can authorize nothing unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever). But note Muhammad's technique here: He pretends and talks like Allah is a proved and accepted fact. Many a naive and/or uneducated primitive not used to thinking things over, fall into such traps - Muhammad knew his psychology and his people. If you keep your eyes open when reading the Quran, you will see he uses this and similar methods literally hundreds of times in the book.

415 3/151d: "- - - wrongdoers." See 2/21b above.

416 3/152a: "Allah did indeed fulfill His promise (never proved given*) to you (Muslims*) when ye with His permission (never prove given*) were about to annihilate your enemy - - -". This refers to the Battle of Uhud (625 AD) where Muhammad had the upper hand, but then most of his some 50 archers left their positions because of greed for loot, and the battle turned and was lost - but the enemy (Mecca) waited too long before they followed up the victory. But the main thing here is: Who is able to believe Jesus could ever say things like this? - two very different persons in two very different religions - and in 2 very different lines of prophethood (at least Jesus seems to have been in such a line).

Another point: As The Quran is not from any god, and Muhammad thus did not have his "inspirations" from a god, who were really behind the promises Muhammad gave on behalf of Allah? - and what was and is those promises worth?

417 3/152b: "- - - in order to test you (Muslims*) - - -". The old question: Why does an omniscient god have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc.): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

Also see 29/2 below.

418 3/152c: "But He (Allah*) forgave you (the ones who caused Muhammad to lose the battle at Uhud*) - - -". Not true unless Allah existed, unless he in addition was a god, and unless he in case really did forgive - one more of Muhammad's never proved claims. Besides even if he exists and is a god, he cannot forgive anyone, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to several statements in the Quran.

419 3/152d: "- - - Allah is full of grace to those who believe". Impossible if Allah does not exist or for other reasons is not a god - like f.x. the Bible indirectly but very clearly tells. After all Allah only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc. - it is unlikely in the extreme that he exists, and if he all the same do exist, it is even more unlikely he is correctly described in a small book containing perhaps 3ooo mistakes and worse (the use of invalid logic and the use of lies), dictated by a man of doubtful moral and reliability, but with much to gain from making people believe in his new religion and platform of power.

Besides: Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, its code of behavior - especially during and after raids and wars and against victims - the unjust parts of the sharia laws, etc. Drop the glorious words and read the realities - the orders, the demands, the introduced rules, the introduced moral codes, the connection or distance to "do to others like you want others do to you", etc. How much real grace do you find? Especially towards the minorities of the suppressed ones? (The situation for the minorities and the suppressed ones often tells much truer facts about a culture, than the situation for the majority.)

420 3/153a: "- - - the Messenger - - -". See 7/157a-c and the other comments under 7/157 below.

421 3/153b: "There (at Uhud*) did Allah give you one distress after another - - -". Wrong unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved - it is overwhelmingly likely it was the warriors from Mecca - who won this battle, but did not follow up the victory in time - who gave them the distresses.

422 3/153c: "- - - to teach you (Muslims*) - - -". But Allah can teach nobody anything unless he exists.

423 3/153d: "- - - Allah is well aware of all that ye (Muslims*) do". Not possible unless Allah exists and is a god, neither of which has ever been proved. Besides: If he knows everything, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and he thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap and obedient warriors.)

Besides: As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god (and Allah thus only seems to be a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book not from any god + compulsion from their father, forefathers, surroundings, mullahs/imams, etc.): Were they tested by Allah or by Muhammad?

One more fact here: The demand for testing, testing, testing is not found in the Bible. People sometimes were tested, but not maniacally like in the Quran. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

424 3/154a: "- - - wrong suspicions of Allah - - -". The Muslims lost the Battle of Uhud, and some seems to have got second thoughts about Allah. All the errors in the Quran - proving the book is not from a god - may indicate they were right.

425 3/154b: "Indeed, this whole affair is wholly Allah's". There is nothing which is Allah's business unless he exists.

###426 3/154c: "Even if you (Muslims*) had remained in your homes, those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death". In plain words: Even if they had fled from the battle (the Battle of Uhud) they would have died no matter if they were among the ones Allah had marked for death - and the ones whom Allah had not marked for death, would not have died no matter how bravely they had gone forth in the battle.

Obvious stupidity and easy to prove wrong by means of f.x. statistics - - - if you need a proof for something so obvious. And perhaps as bad: A man as intelligent as Muhammad had no chance of not knowing that he was lying each time he said thing like this. But the primitive and naive warriors believed his tales.

Just for the record: This is not from the Bible, and there is no similar general rule in the Bible. And as this is such a very central part of Islam, it is an at least 200% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not serving the same god or religion - if you needed more proofs for anything of this. Also see 3/145a above.

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", "assuredly", etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? If you have a zero and multiply it with a million, you still only have a zero. After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything.

427 3/154d: "For Allah knoweth well all the secrets of your (Muslims'*) hearts". Why then did he have to test even his followers? - and why preferably by means of raids for riches and in battles? - not a good way for a claimed good and benevolent god.

428 3/155a: "- - - it was Satan who caused them (the greedy archers*) to fail". The real reason was greed, but read the Quran and you will see that Muhammad made religion out of everything, and in ways strengthening his religion or position. Satan is easy to blame, but in Islam he also is an interesting "person" because he is one of the 3 possible makers of the Quran - and lots of points in the Quran fit a satan better than they fit a god - at least a claimed good and benevolent god. The other two possibilities are a mental illness - modern medical science suspects TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) which may give just the kinds of fits and religious illusions Muhammad is said to have had. And finally there is the alternative of a cold human brain - f.x. Muhammad's. The fact that nearly everything in the book is from and around Arabia + all the errors which are in accordance with what one believed was correct science, etc. in Arabia at the time of Muhammad may indicate this. The same does all the times Allah(?) helped Muhammad solving personal, etc. problems.

Muhammad's claim - that the Quran is from a god - is out of the question. No god - and definitely not an omniscient one - ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran. Only the "wrapping paper" - the Arab linguistics - is of good quality. And no good and benevolent god would engage in such a harsh and partly immoral war religion, led by a harsh and bloody warlord, like described in the Quran. It is heresy and an insult and slander towards any god to blame such a book on him.

429 3/155b: "- - - (evil) - - -". See 2/21b above.

430 3/155c: "But Allah has blotted out (their (perhaps the some 300 who left before the battle at Uhud*) faults) - - -". Allah cannot forgive anybody anything unless he exists and is a god. Besides even if he exists and is a god, he cannot forgive anyone, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change, according to several statements in the Quran.

Another fact is that according to the Bible only Yahweh (and a victim) can forgive.

431 3/155d: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Forbearing". The Quran tells Allah has 99 names, and these are 2 of them. The names generally are descriptions in superlative - Most Kind, Most Merciful, Most High, Most Good, Most Gracious, etc., but also names like f.x. Oft-Forgiving, etc.

Please read the surahs from Medina - omit the easy, glorifying words and judge from his acts, demands, introduced moral and judicial rules, etc. How many of the names does he really deserve?

Besides: Please read the surahs from Medina once more - and once more skip the big glorifying words and judge from the reality like deeds, demands, introduced codes of moral and behavior, etc. (reality is much more reliable than big and cheap words). How much of f.x. real mercy, etc. do you find?

An afterthought: Also read NT and compare: Who is most merciful and most forgiving, etc. of Yahweh and Allah if both books tell the truth on this point - especially if you compare the surahs from Medina - which according to Islam's rules for abrogation are the "weightiest" ones - to NT and its New Covenant?

432 3/156a: "It is Allah that gives Life and Death - - -". According to the Bible it is Yahweh who does this. None of them can do it unless they exist. For Yahweh there are proofs if the old books tell the truth. For Allah there is nothing but loose claims from man with doubtful moral and reliability, using the claims about Allah as his platform of power. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

433 3/156b: "- - - Allah sees well all that ye (Muslims*) do". Why then did he have to test even his followers? - and why preferably by means of raids for riches and in battles? - not a good way for a claimed good and benevolent god.

434 3/157a: "And if ye (Muslims*) are slain, or die, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass". Also Yahweh may be more forgiving towards persons killed for his sake - but for him only the innocent victims are martyrs. In Islam anybody is a martyr as long as there is a "positive" connection between their death and the religion. This is most easy to see in connection with warfare - any warrior killed in a raid for riches in the name of Allah or in wars of aggression, is a martyr - and persons who in reality are self murderers seeking death in religiously accepted ways to enter Paradise and all the houris, are martyrs. And not forget the rascals - no matter how bad you are, if you are killed in a religiously accepted way, you automatically end in Paradise.

Yahweh and Allah not the same god and Jesus and Muhammad definitely not in the same religion.

As for the houris: In most religions and cultures forced prostitution is reckoned to be immoral and something dirty.

We may add that the idea of houris (and of serving, handsome youths - handsome plenty enough to tempt homosexuals (not said in the Quran) Muhammad "borrowed" from the Zoroastrian religion (Persia), and the same for the 4 rivers in Paradise). Nearly no thoughts or ideas are original in the Quran - more or less everything is "borrowed" from religions and cultures in and around Arabia at the time of Muhammad. A pertinent question here: Would an omniscient god aiming for the entire world, need to borrow all his ideas from primitive Arabia and its neighbors? - and only from the time of Muhammad?

Two more of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad definitely not in the same religion.

But to tell a true fact: If there is a next life, but no Allah, there are some Muslims who are in for a surprise - perhaps even a nasty one.

435 3/157b: "- - - the way of Allah - - -". This way does not exist unless Allah exists".

436 3/158: "And if ye (Muslims*) die, or are slain, lo! It is to Allah ye are brought together". Romancing war. A parallel to 3/157a above.

437 3/159a: "- - - the Mercy of Allah - - -". - does not exist unless Allah exists. In addition: See f.x. 3/155d above.

##438 3/159b: "- - - ask for (Allah's*) forgiveness for them (weak Muslims*) - - -". For one thing Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god. For another he can forgive nobody no matter, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change according to several statements in the Quran.

439 3/159c: "- - - put thy (Muslim's*) trust in Allah". Risky if he does not exist or for other reasons is not a god, like f.x. the Bible indirectly but very clear tells.

440 3/159d: "- - - Allah loves those who put their trust (in Him)". Allan can love nobody unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved - and till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god. Also see 3/19a above.

441 3/160a: "If Allah helps you, none can overcome you: if He forsakes you, who is there, after that, that can help you?"- According to the Bible one name: Yahweh. Besides Allah cannot help unless he exists, and he can give little help unless he in addition is something supernatural, good or bad.

442 3/160b: "In Allah, then, let Believers put their trust". Risky if he does not exist or for other reasons is not something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved, like f.x. the Bible indirectly but very clear tells, and like the mistakes in the Quran more or less proves (mathematical strength proof lacks, but there are strong circumstantial and empirical proofs, especially when you add the fact that also outside the Quran Allah never in any way provably has manifested himself, except in the mouth of Muhammad).

####443 3/161a: "No prophet could (ever) be false to his trust". What naivety!! There have been thousands of false prophets through the times (and as the Quran is from no god, it is extremely likely Muhammad was one of them - though may be a mental illness (f.x. TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) or f.x. the dark forces, made him believe parts of the claims himself, at least the first years (science tends to believe he believed at least some of what he said the first years, but became more cynical later - if this is correct it may indicate TLE or perhaps dark forces)).

444 3/161b: "If any person is so false (tell lies even being a prophet*), he shall, on the Day of Judgment - - - receive its due". The Quran with all its mistakes and deplorable quality (except the Arab linguistics) is not from any god, and is thus a made up book. What is then Muhammad's due if it is he who has made it up, if:

1. He has been dictated mainly by a mental illness - f.x. TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy)? 

2. He has made it partly from a mental illness and partly from a cold brain?

3. He has made it only from a cold brain?

4. If he has not made it up himself but received it - all or partly - from the Devil disguised like Gabriel (Muhammad would not have a chance to see the difference).

#445 3/161c: If any person is so false (tell lies even being a prophet*), he shall, on the Day of Judgment, restore what he has misappropriated - - -". As the Quran is from no god, this may well be the possible next life for Muhammad if there some place is a real god. But how will it be able for one person to restore the damage for literally some billion people led astray into a made up religion if there is a next life? - and especially so if this means they end up in Hell?

446 3/161d: "- - - unjustly - - -". See 2/21b above.

447 3/162a: "Is the man who follows the good pleasure of Allah like the man who draws on himself the wrath of Allah - - -?" Both alternatives are irrelevant if Allah does not exist and/or is not a god or a devil. 

This said the non-Muslim may be a better man or woman, because parts of the Quran's moral code, parts of its code of behavior, most of its apartheid (or stronger) view on non-Muslims, parts of its judicial code, parts of it treatment of women, etc. are from doubtful, via bad, to horrible. Compare the doubtful parts to "do against others like you want others do against you", and the only possible reactions are a sardonic laughter or to weep.

448 3/162b: "- - - the wrath of Allah - - -". Does not exist unless Allah exists, and is of little consequence unless he is something supernatural, good or bad.

449 3/163: "- - - Allah sees well all that ye (Muslims*) do". Why then did he have to test even his followers? - and why preferably by means of raids for riches and in battles? - not a good way for a claimed good and benevolent god.

###450 3/164a: "Allah did confer a great favor on the Believers when He sent among them a Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". But if Allah does not exist - and till now he only is a rumor started by Muhammad and kept alive by a book too full of errors, etc. to be from any god - who then (if any) sent Muhammad?

451 3/164b: "- - - a Messenger (Muhammad*) from among themselves - - -". But was Muhammad really a messenger? - and in case from whom as he clearly had no connection to any god? (No god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.)

452 3/164c: "- - - a Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c and the other comments under 7/157, and 45/13a below.

453 3/164d: "- - - Signs of Allah - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

###454 3/164e: "- - - (Muhammad did*) sanctify them (the Muslims*) - - -". Not bad for a teacher of a religion built on a book too full of errors, etc. for any god to be involved in. And can the representative(?) of a war religion sanctify anyone or anything?

455 3/164f: "- - - Wisdom (here the Quran*) - - -". Please read the Quran. How much real and reliable wisdom do you find among the hundreds and more of errors, cases of invalid logic, contradictions etc? For a comparison: One may agree or disagree to the religion in the Bible, but anyone can find a lot of wisdom there.

456 3/165a: War pep-talk. Try to find similar from Jesus.

457 3/165b: "- - - Allah hath power over all things". According to the Bible only Yahweh has power over all things.

458 3/166a: "- - - the leave of Allah - - -". This does not exist unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, good or bad.

459 3/166b: "- - - in order that He (Allah*) might test the Believers (Muslims*)". BUT: If he knows everything, why then does he have to test even his followers - claims about Allah/Muhammad having to test even good Muslims, f.x. by sending them on raids and into wars, have no meaning if Allah already knows everything, not to mention if he predestines everything like the Quran states several places, and he thus can learn nothing from the claimed tests because he has predestined the results himself. (But it does have meaning if the reality was that the "need" for tests just was arguments Muhammad used to get more and harsher and cheap and obedient warriors.)

460 3/167a: "Come, fight in the way of Allah (= for Allah*) - - -". Never in the Bible the Israelites/Jews fought for the god. There was fighting in OT, but for establishing a national country, later for defending it + for self defence or power. But not for Yahweh - Yahweh seems to have been able to fix his own problems. And in the New Covenant via Jesus there hardly is room for armed fighting at all. Another proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and not to mention for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion or code of moral or behavior.

461 3/167b: "- - - the way of Allah - - -". This does not exist unless Allah exists and is something supernatural - beware if the way seems easy and slopes down.

462 3/167c: "But Allah hath full knowledge of all they (the reluctant ones*) conceal". Why then does he have to test them - here obviously in war like so often in the Quran?

463 3/168-171: More pep-talk and war romancing. You find nothing like this in the Bible. One more proof tor that Yahweh is not the same god as the war god Allah - if Allah exists (there only is Muhammad's claim for this).

464 3/168: "Avert death from your (pacifist*) own self - - -". That was just what they had done by not going to battle. But of course that was no good idea for a robber baron - later warlord - who wanted warriors.

465 3/169: "Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way (= killed in battle*) as dead". In most war religions death in battle is the quick road to Paradise. So also with Islam - one of the typical war religions: If you are killed in a "holy war" - and nearly everything was and is named "holy war"/jihad - you go directly to Paradise. Muslims even believe this.

Muhammad here was very different from Jesus - and proved that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god (f.x. their moral codes, their teaching, their ethics, etc. are too different.

466 3/170a: "- - - the Bounty of Allah - - -". - does not exist unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

467 3/170b: "- - - martyrs - - -". Anybody who dies in armed fighting, or f.x. from illness on raids or war expeditions, are martyrs in Islam - included the ones who in reality commit self murder by means of recklessness in order to god to Paradise and the best parts of Paradise - included as many sex slaves (houris) as possible. Cheating Allah so to say. In Christianity only the ones who could not reasonably avoid being killed for Yahweh, or had to make a choice where the alternative was worse, are martyrs.

468 3/171a: "- - - the Grace and the Bounty of Allah - - -". - does not exist unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

469 3/171b: "- - - the fact that Allah suffereth not the reward of the Faithful (Muslims*) to be lost (in the least)". If Allah does not exist or for other reasons is not something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved, this claim is not a fact, but a cheating or perhaps a bluff.

Another thought: What is Allah's way of rewarding if he belongs to the dark forces?

470 3/172a: "Of those who answered the call of Allah and the Messenger, even after being wounded, (and went on fighting*) - - - (they will*) have a great reward". This is the war religion speaking. VERY far from especially NT, and one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and one of the absolute proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad had very little if anything in common of essential things. Also see 7/157a-c below.

One more point: No omniscient god would use a messenger/prophet telling so much wrong facts and other errors like Muhammad did. And no good and benevolent god would use a messenger/prophet so often and so brutally and inhumanly breaking the golden rule of "do against others like you want others do against you". And no honest god would use a representative accepting dishonesty stealing and lies and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a).

471 3/172b: "- - - Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A version of Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his god and platform of power.

472 3/172c: "- - - Messenger - - -". See 7/157a-c and the other comments under 7/157 below.

473 3/172d: "- - - right - - - wrong - - -". See 2/21b above.

474 3/172e: "- - - (good Muslims will*) have a great reward (Paradise*)". Only possible if:

1. Allah exists.

2. Allah in addition is a god. 

3. Allah is a great enough god to have a paradise.

4. Allah is not a good and benevolent god (but a war god like described in the Quran) - no good and benevolent god will accept not repenting thieves/looters, rapists, doers of misdeeds, suppressers, slave takers, murderers, etc.

5. Allah's religion is correctly described in spite of all the errors and worse in the Quran, and Allah thus will accept Muslims.

6. Allah is not from the dark forces.

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

475 3/173a: "A great army is gathering against you (Muslims*) - - - (etc.) - - -". A parallel to 3/172a above.

476 3/173b: "- - - He (Allah*) is the best disposer of affairs". According to the Bible, Yahweh is the best and most reliable one.

477 3/174a: "- - - Grace and Bounty - - -". One of the "magnets" which made warriors seek Muhammad, was the permission - yes, duty - to steal and rob and extort and take slaves, included women. You simply might become rich by following him. None of Jesus' disciples became rich. We may also remind you that "Allah's" bounty here on Earth, Muhammad and his Muslims to a large degree stole/looted from their victims, and did not get from Allah.

478 3/174b: "- - - the good pleasure of Allah - - -". - is a myth unless Allah exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

479 3/174c: "- - - Allah is the Lord of bounties unbounded". This only may be true if he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad.

480 3/175a: "- - - Satan - - -". See 3/155a above.

481 3/175b: "- - - fear Me (Allah*) - - -". Why so if Allah does not exist or for other reasons is not something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved? Nothing about Allah was ever proved, not even his very existence.

Besides according to the Bible the only one there is a real reason to fear, is Yahweh.

482 3/176a: "Let not those grieve thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) who rush headlong into unbelief - - -". Compare this to f.x. "the Lost Coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the Lost Sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14), "the Lost Son" (Luke 15/11-31) Or to Jesus words: "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sic. - - - For I (Jesus*) have not come to call the righteous, but the sinners" (Matt. 9/12-13).

483 3/176b: "- - - Allah's Plan - - -". Allah predestines everything, and he predestines it in accordance with his Plan which nobody and nothing can change. Two more proofs, each 100%+, for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - there neither is full predestination nor an unchangeable Plan for everything in the Bible.

484 3/177: "- - - purchase unbelief for the price of faith - - -". Here we likely are back to Muhammad's claim that the Bible was falsified and for base reasons (they wanted a good life in this world instead of in the next, but Muhammad never explained why it was better for them not to enter a religion where dishonesty, thieving/robbing, extorting, slave taking, etc. which made the Muslims rich) - though Muhammad may have meant all non-Muslims. And we are back to Muhammad's claim that this was a major reason why they did not believe in his new religion (the real reason for many, was that they saw the big differences between what Muhammad claimed the Bible said, and what it really said, and the big differences between what he said the old religions "really" had been - similar to Islam - and what they in reality had been and was. The sum of this was that they understood something was seriously wrong with Muhammad's teaching. This was the real reason why they did not believe in him, but other "explanations" fit Muhammad better - he had to save his religion and his platform of power.

485 3/178a: "We (Allah*) grant them (non-Muslims*) - - -". This only is possible for Allah to do if he exists and in addition is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

486 3/178b: "We (Allah*) grant them (non-Muslims*) respite that they may grow in their iniquity: But they will have a shameful punishment". This is one of Muhammad's standard explanations why non-Muslims often were well off, whereas Muslims often - at least before Muhammad became a great robber baron, not only a medium one like now in 625 AD - were poor.

Another fact is that Allah can do nothing about this, unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever). And yet another that according to the Bible, followers of Yahweh are in the clear.

487 3/179a: "- - - He Allah*) separates what is evil from what is good - - -". Which he cannot do unless he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad.

488 3/179b: "- - - evil - - - good - - - do right - - -". See 2/21b above.

###489 3/179c: "Nor will he disclose to you the secrets of the Unseen". It is not 100% clear who "you" are here - the Quran as we have mentioned is not quite clear all places. It may be the Muslims, but seems to mean Muhammad. And Muhammad was unable "to see the unseen" and thus to make prophesies, in stark contradiction to all the old Israeli/Jewish prophets, whom he wrongly claimed to be similar to. The difference is extra easy to see, when one knows that in the really old time, a prophet was not called a prophet among the old Israelites, but a seer - one who was able to see the unseen, and thus tell f.x. about the future = make prophesies. Both Muhammad himself and Aishah - his famous and infamous child wife - admitted and stated that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen. Also Islam of today (not all mullahs and imams, and far from all lay Muslims) states that "there was no miracle connected to Muhammad, except the delivery of the Quran" - prophesies are a branch of miracles.

Muhammad thus was not a real prophet - a person unable to make prophesies, is not much of a prophet. (There are other definitions for the word "prophet" - it is a popular title included among false prophets - but what kind of a prophet is one who is unable to make prophesies?)

Jesus clearly was a prophet, if the old books tell the truth.

490 3/179d: "- - - He (Allah*) chooses His Messengers - - -". This is one more thing Allah cannot do unless he exists and is a god.

491 3/179e: "So believe in Allah and his Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". A parallel to 3/172a above. Also see 7/157a-c below - and for that case the other comments under 7/157.

492 3/179f: "So believe in Allah and his Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". Pretty risky on basis of all the mistakes etc. in the Quran, which prove there is no god behind that book.

493 3/179g: "- - - Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c, and the other comments under 7/157 below.

494 3/179h: "- - - if ye (people*) believe (in the Quran*) and do right, ye have a reward without measure (Paradise*)". According to the Bible you will have to be a follower of Yahweh and not of Allah to get to the Paradise. And what is absolutely sure: Allah can reward nobody unless he exists - and he only exists a claim in a book full of mistakes told by a man of doubtful moral, but wanting respect, power, and riches for bribes - and women.

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

495 3/179i: "- - - if ye (people/Muslims*) believe (in Islam*) and do right, ye have a reward without measure (Paradise*)". Wrong unless Allah exists, is a god, and is correctly described in the Quran, and thus rewards the deeds the Quran claims he rewards.

496 3/179j: "- - - do right - - -". See 2/21b above.

497 3/180a: "- - - those (Jews and Christians*) who covetously withhold of the gifts (claimed scriptures a la the Quran*) which Allah hath given them - - -". See 2/75 and 3/19a above.

498 3/180b: "- - - His (Allah's*) Grace - - -". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, its code of behavior - especially during and after raids and wars and against victims - the unjust parts of the sharia laws, etc. Drop the glorious words and read the realities - the orders, the demands, the introduced rules, the introduced moral codes, the connection or distance to "do to others like you want others do to you", etc. How much real grace do you find? Especially towards the minorities of the suppressed ones? (The situation for the minorities and the suppressed ones often tells much truer facts about a culture, than the situation for the majority.)

499 3/180c: "To Allah belongs the heritage of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth". According to the Bible this belongs to Yahweh, not to Allah. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, though central points we repeat often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception only are built on other not proved claims (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explain away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "A claim without a proof can be dismissed without a proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or something else central in his religion.)

500 3/180d: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with all that ye (people*) do - - -". But if this is true, why does he have to test and test and test everybody?

501 3/182a: "- - - (unrighteous deeds) - - -". See 2/21b above.

502 3/182b: "- - - Allah never harms those who serve him". If Allah does not exist and/or is not something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved, this is very true (though superstition in itself may cause a lot of harm). It also is true that he in case does not help them - or harm anyone else.

503 3/183a: "Allah took our (the Jews'*) promise not to believe in a Messenger unless he showed us a sacrifice consumed by Fire (from heaven)." This neither is from the Bible, nor in accordance with the Bible. Only one or two of the many Israeli/Jewish prophets did this, and it was no normal way of proving prophethood.

504 3/183b: "- - - Messenger - - -". This word is not used as a title in the Bible - there the title used is "prophet" - or in the really old time "seer". Muhammad used it often instead of the heavier title "prophet" (a possible reason is that maybe he was reluctant to use the title "prophet", as that title might cause questions as he was unable to make prophesies).

As mentioned the title for "prophet" among the Israelites originally was a "seer" - one who was able to "see the unseen" (what was hidden and what had not yet happened) - according to the Bible (f.x. 1. Sam. 9/9 - the word is used some 15 - 20 times in OT). Muhammad both according to himself in the Quran, and to Aishah in Hadiths was unable "to see the unseen". Muslims often try to explain that a messenger is something more than a prophet - to give Muhammad more weight. But a prophet is a heavy and respected title which tells a lot. Whereas a messenger just is a messenger boy bringing messages he does not even have to understand or know himself, from one place to another.

505 3/183c: "- - - Messenger (here Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/157a-c, and the other comments under 7/157 below.

506 3/183d: "There came to you (skeptics/Israelites*) messengers (here referred to the old Israelian prophets*) before me (Muhammad*), with Clear Signs and even with what ye ask for (proof by fire from heaven*): why then did ye slay them?" None of the few prophets who showed such proofs - f.x. Elijah - were killed according to the Bible.

507 3/183e+184a: "- - - clear Signs (here indicated to be from Allah*) - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

508 3/184b: "- - - the Book of Enlightenment - - -". Muhammad claimed each prophet and messenger through all times received a copy of "the Mother of the Book" - the original of the Quran revered by Allah and his angels in Heaven - just like Muhammad did. It is likely it is this claimed book he means here. But such a book is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible, and also neither science, nor Islam has ever found any traces or fragments from or references to such a book.

509 3/185: "- - - Garden - - -". The Quran's Paradise - similar to a primitive, naive, uneducated desert warrior's dream about a king's lazy royal life among his concubines. The enormous differences between Yahweh's and Allah's paradises are a 100%+ proof for that the two gods are not the same one.

510 3/186a: "Ye (Muslims*) shall certainly be tried and tested - - -". But what for if Allah already knows the answers, not to mention if the Quran tells the truth when it claims Allah predestines everything, so that he not only knows the result of the test, but has himself decided what the result is going to be. There is no meaning or logic in this. Not unless this just is an "explanation" used by Muhammad who wanted more and cheap and obedient warriors.

511 3/186b: "- - - evil - - -". See 2/21b above.

512 3/187a: "- - - Allah took a Covenant from the People of the Book (Jews, Christians and Sabeans*) - - -". According to the Bible this is wrong, as it was Yahweh, not Allah who made that covenant with them. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran).

513 3/187b: "- - - but they (Jews and Christians*) threw it (the Quran-like book Muhammad claimed they had received from above*), and purchased it for some miserable gain!" = Muhammad's often repeated claim that Jews and Christians had received books like the Quran, but to get a better life here on Earth (he NEVER explained how) they falsified it into the Bible and the other Jewish scriptures. (He also never explained how such a falsification was physically possible.) It was the only way he could save his new religion and platform of power.

514 3/189a: "To Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth, and Allah hath power over all things". According to the Bible this - included the power - belong to Yahweh. Maximum one of the two books can be right here.

515 3/189b: "- - - Allah hath power over all things". Not unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever). Besides according to the Bible, only Yahweh is that powerful.

516 3/190a: "- - - Signs - - -". See 2/39 and 2/99a above, and 4/140b below.

517 3/190b: "- - - men of understanding - - -". Who will like to be classified as "not wise men", and who will not like to be classified among "wise men" - "men of understanding" - especially if they are naive, primitive, and not too wise? - Muhammad knew psychology and how to handle or manipulate people. Also see 16/67 below.

518 3/191a: "Not for naught hast Thou (Allah*) created (all) this (heaven and Earth*)!" According to the Bible it was created by Yahweh, not by Allah - and according to science it was created by nature. (As for Allah: All the mistakes in the Quran proves the book is not from a god, and thus that it is highly unlikely Allah even exists - and if he did not exist and/or was not a god, he is out of the picture).

519 3/191b: "Glory to Thee (Allah)!" What for if he does not exist and/or is no something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved?

520 3/192a: "- - - never will the wrongdoers find any helpers!" The word "wrongdoers" in the Quran normally is one of Muhammad's slandering names for non-Muslims. And according to the Bible at least those of them who are followers of Yahweh are safe and have a good helper. The facts around the reliability of the Quran may indicate, however, that Muslims may meet some trouble.

521 3/192b: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". See 2/21b above.

522 3/193a: "Believe ye (people*) in the Lord (Allah*)". The documented unreliability of the Quran may make this a no-good idea - in this life because his claimed religion is a harsh one also to his followers, and in the possible next life because the followers of a made up "holy" book backed by no god, may meet problems if there is a next life and a real god somewhere.

##523 3/193b: "Forgive - - -". For one thing Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god. For another he can forgive nobody no matter, because that will change his predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change according to several statements in the Quran.

524 3/193c: "- - - sins - - - inequities - - - righteous". See 2/21b above.

525 3/193d: "- - - take to Thyself (Allah*) our souls - - -". According to the Bible this is Yahweh's job. And Allah can all the same not do it unless he exists and is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

526 3/194a: "(Allah*) Grant us - - -". Which Allah cannot do unless he exists and in this case also is something supernatural, white or black, none of which was ever proved. Really the opposite is proved (all errors, etc. in the Quran + no manifestation of Allah ever).

527 3/194b: "- - - what Thou (Allah*) didst promise - - -". There never was one single proved case of Allah giving a promise, not to mention kept one. All the world had known about it if there had been even one such case - each and every active Muslim had told you about it at least three times a day.

Besides: As the Quran and all its errors are not from any god, who made all the promises in the Quran in Allah's name? - and are they worth anything without a god behind them?

528 3/194c: "- - - Thy (Allah's*) Prophets - - -". Only one prophet(?) is documented who was speaking about Allah: Muhammad. Muhammad claimed and Islam claims lots and lots of prophets had existed, but not one of them is documented.

The Biblical prophets are in a special position, as Muhammad claimed they were representing Allah. But they according to the Bible very clearly represented Yahweh, and in spite of Muhammad's many and strong claims about Yahweh and Allah being the same god, this is not true - their teachings, moral codes, ethical codes, etc. are too different and to fundamentally different for this to be anything but wishful thinking or worse. As for the prophet Jesus also see 3/19a above.

529 3/194d: "- - - Thou (Allah*) never breakest Thy promise". In a way this may be true: There never has been any proof for that Allah exists. If he does not exist, he never gave a promise - and in that case there never was a promise which could be broken. (All promises claimed to be from Allah, in the Quran are made up by others, as no god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.)

530 3/195a: "And their (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) hath accepted them and answered them - - -". Two of Muhammad's nearly legion never proved claims in the Quran. In this case they are bluffs if not Allah exists and in addition is a god, and if not this god's religion is correct enough described among all the errors in the Quran, so that he is willing to accept them.

531 3/195b: "- - - My (Allah's*) Cause - - -". Does not exist unless Allah exists, and is of little consequence unless he in addition is something supernatural, good or bad.

532 3/195c: "- - - fought or been slain (in battles*) - - -". One of the 100% and more proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not serving the same god - Yahweh/Jesus the god of love, Allah/Muhammad the god of war - or religion. If you fight for Allah/Muhammad and are killed, you go directly to the best part of Allah's Paradise, Firdaws, - - - if he and his Paradise exists.

533 3/195d: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/21b and 2/26 above.

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? If you have a zero and multiply it with a million, you still only have a zero - - - but naive souls may start believing strong claims. And after all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words free of charge as long as they do not have to prove anything.

534 3/195e: "- - - I (Allah*) will blot out from them (Muslims*) their iniquities - - -". Only possible - possible - if Allah exists and is a god. Well, even then ha cannot do it, because this will change his predestined Plan, which nobody and nothing can change according to several clear statements in the Quran.

535 3/195f: "- - - Garden - - -".The Quran's Paradise - similar to a primitive, naive, uneducated desert warrior's dream about a king's lazy royal life among his concubines. The enormous differences between Yahweh's and Allah's paradises are a 100%+ proof for that the two gods are not the same one.

One point the Quran never explains, is how it is possible for you to have your family around you like the Quran promises, if not all of them qualifies for the same heaven or garden? Your son and daughter qualify for garden number 1 and 3 respectively, your wife for number 2, whereas you yourself were killed in the Battle of Tours in 732 AD and qualify for Firdaws. How to collect your family around you, like the Quran states is a fact? How many of Muhammad's family qualified for the 7. heaven like Hadiths claims Muhammad did? - and the same for Abraham?

536 3/195g: "- - - from His (Allah's*) Presence is the best of rewards". If he exists - and if he in addition is - and if he in addition is correctly described among all the errors and worse in the Quran.

537 3/196: "Let not the strutting about of the unbelievers (non-Muslims*) through the land deceive thee (Muslims*) - - -". For one thing at least the unbelievers believing in the Bible, according to the Bible are not following deception. And for another thing it is possible both to deceive oneself and to be deceived by false prophets - falsely proclaimed prophets or messengers.

538 3/198a: "- - - those who fear their Lord (Allah*) - - -". What for if he does not exist, like the reality concerning the reliability of the Quran shows? - or if he belongs to the dark forces, like some facts may indicate?

539 3/198b: "- - - Gardens - - -". The Quran's Paradise - similar to a primitive, naive, uneducated desert warrior's dream about a king's lazy royal life among his concubines. The enormous differences between Yahweh's and Allah's paradises are a 100%+ proof for that the two gods are not the same one.

540 3/198c: "- - - therein (Paradise*) are they (Muslims*) to dwell (for ever) - - -". But 11/107a and 11/108 may indicate it is not really forever. Muslims explains this away with that it just means the resurrected there will be placed to an even better place - not too difficult as the Quran's Paradise is too primitive to be worthy of an omniscient and omnipotent god but the Quran does not say so, which means this is a made up "explanation". There is no similar indication in the Bible.

Also remember the other enormous and very fundamental differences between the Paradises of the Bible and of the Quran and how to get there - some of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

541 3/198d: "- - - in the Presence of Allah is the best (bliss) - - -". If he exists - see 3/194 above.

524 3/198e: "- - - the Presence of Allah - - -". - does not exist unless Allah exists.

543 3/198f: "- - - righteous". See 2/21b above.

544 3/199a: "And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book (in this case mainly Jews, as there were few Christians around Medina*), those who believe in Allah - - -". There were some Jews who converted to Islam - some from honest belief, some from convenience, some from fear. But only a few (of the some 700 captivated Qurayza men, only one converted to Islam to save his life according to A. Guillaume: "Islam".)

An extra point: How much do you respect the use of strengthening, but cheap words like "verily", "in truth", "truly", "certainly", "assuredly”, etc. for strengthening loose claims, etc.? After all any cheat, deceiver, charlatan, swindler, etc. can use such words as free of charge as Muhammad did as long as they do not have to prove anything - like Muhammad did not have to. But a zero multiplied with even a billion, still only is a zero.

545 3/199b: "- - - the revelation (the Quran*) to you (Muhammad*) - - -". Was it really revelations? - and in case from whom? No god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran. Then remain dark forces or the famous mental illness (TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy). The book also can be from humans - or from Muhammad himself - but in that case there were no revelations.

Also see 45/13a below.

546 3/199c: "- - - sell the Signs of Allah - - -". This is one of Muhammad's standard - and wrong - claims: The Jews and Christians have falsified the Bible so that it is not similar to the Quran any more (!), and they did so to have a better life here on Earth (without explaining how the present - and claimed falsified - Bible meant a better life than following the Quran). Included in Muhammad's claim also is that he stated that the claimed, but never proved (actually it is proved wrong) falsification of the Bible, was a main reason why Jews, Christians, and Sabeans did not believe in his new religion.

547 3/199d: "- - - the Signs of Allah - - -". See 4/140b and 36/33 below.

548 3/199e: "For them is a reward with their Lord - - -". It is likely this verse talks about Jews, Christians, and perhaps Sabeans who changed religion to Islam, but this is not entirely clear. There is a chance that Muhammad in accordance with his claim that Yahweh and Allah were the same god, meant that strongly and honestly believing Jews, etc. could enter Paradise. If this is the case, this is one of the (few) places in the Quran where it is said that also at least a few of the followers of the Bible may end in Paradise.

549 3/199f: "- - - Allah is swift in account". Only if he exists.

550 3/200: "- - - fear Allah, that ye (Muslims*) may prosper". The Bible advices to fear Yahweh. (We comment on just some of these many totally obvious disagreements between the Bible and the Quran. Also beware that the fact that we do not comment on something, does not mean that it does not merit a comment - the point only is too obvious or repeated too often, or we have overlooked it, though central points we repeat rather often. And just to mention it: According to the Bible Yahweh is the true one (and in other religions other gods - and one should here remember that Islam has no more proof for Allah than other religions have for their pagan god(s) (and strong believers in other religions are as sure that their god(s) is/are real, as Muslims are about Allah - but we may mention that if the old books tell the truth about this, there are proofs for the old Jewish/Christian god (and for Jesus' supernatural nature), but for Allah no proof exists, as the claimed "proofs" for Allah without exception are built on other not proved claims only (it also is striking that the Quran demands strong proofs from all opponents and from other religions - and thus state that proofs are valuable and necessary and meaningful - but never gives logically valid proofs itself - Muhammad even avoids and explains away all requests for real proofs, even requests from followers).

Another point: As Muhammad for one thing clearly lies in the Quran (f.x. by saying that miracles will make no-one believe anyhow, and that this was the reason why Allah did not make any miracles), and in addition accepts the use of dishonesty and even broken oaths (2/225a, 5/89a, 16/91b, 66/2a), the Quran needs extra strong - and many - proofs to be believed - anything not really proved may be one of Muhammad's permitted lies. Therefore remember: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) is not only permitted by Islam, but advised to use "if necessary" to promote or defend "the Religion of Truth", and as Muhammad could use deceit and even broken oaths, it is morally ok to do so and thus of course any Muslim can do the same. But serious: To use and use and use invalid claims and "signs" and "proofs" and arguments, invalid logic, etc. makes one wonder, because such argumentation is a smelly affair, as the use of only such arguments not backed by at least some proved or provable facts, normally is the hallmark of the cheater and the deceiver.

As a "brother" of al-Takiyya and Kitman, etc., we should also mention the tradition for "Hilah": A "device to stop, hinder, or trick - - -. Strategm to avoid or circumvent legal prinsiples or rigid constructs. - - - utilized - - - to solve contradictions between (political powers, cultural choises, etc*) and Quranic principles". (The Oxford Dictionary of Islam). In plain words: ways/tricks of seemingly or formally being honest or correct, while in reality being dishonest or incorrect. It seems that this aspect of "the religion of truth" was first campained of the Hanifi law school, but later utilized also by the other 3 Muslim law schools. "Hilah" is dishonesty in disguice. True honesty is not always central in Islam and among Islam's religious and moral forefront.

And: Like Muhammad it is normal for Muslims in debates to throw never documented or in other ways proved claims around, and then claim/pretend they are valid arguments. Just there and then it may be difficult to disprove such claims - and they "win" the debate. Do not be cheated by such traps - whenever they try this method (and they use it often), demand that they prove their claim or statement (or dismiss what they claim). As there exist no proofs for any of the central religious claims in Islam, and hardly even for the less central ones, they will not be able to prove anything - except perhaps by means of fast talk or new not proved claims, if you are not sharp enough to see through such things.

Also see 45/13a below.

Thought provoking: "What is claimed without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof". Also remember: "A strong claim needs a strong proof", "Big words are too cheap to prove anything without a proof", and "A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". And: "The Quran is so full of errors, etc. and at least some lies, and Muhammad's view on dishonesty as a working tool so clear, that the Quran's words are not proofs without additional documentation". Also note that Muhammad all too often "forgot" - and Muslims "forget" - that "perhaps a possibility", "a possibility", "a probability", "likely", "a fact", "a proof", etc. are different words with different meanings, and consequently call possibilities they like, facts or proofs - just keep your eyes and ears open, and see how often this is the case. (Muhammad never gave a valid proof for any of his central religious claims. Never. And the "Signs" (read "proof") and "proofs" he often claimed, without exception are invalid, because he never first proved that it really was Allah who was behind the phenomena Muhammad claimed proved Allah or anything else central in his religion.)

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This work was uploaded with assistance from M. A. Khan, the author of Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism and Slavery, and the editor of islam-watch.org website.