1000+ Mistakes in the Quran, Booklet 4

 

Booklet 4

In the "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" series.

NB:

1. Book F is the "mother book" for this book. There will be references below you will not find in this book, but you will find them in Book F.

2. The word "apocryphal" covers stories of many grades of reliability - from likely true to the totally unreliable. When we use the word, we always and without exception refer to the made up ones, if we do not say anything else. The main reason is that the absolute majority of apocryphal stories are made up ones (f.x. Islam has made up many to make the Mosaic and the Christian religion look like it "really" have originated from Allah, the Quran (or really the claimed "Mother of the Book" in Heaven - they f.x. made lots in Spain during the 800s.), and from the claimed "original religion", Islam.

3. On the net it is said that our Book A, "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran", is the most dangerous book Islam ever met. Our Book F, "1000+ Comments on the Quran", may be a good number 2.

4. It also is said that nobody should decide become - or stay - a Muslim until after he/she has read at least Book A and preferably also Book F.

5. Islam tells that most religious people believe in their religion because of "taqlid" = because they have been and are told by their fathers and surroundings that this is the truth and the only truth. They forget(?) that this also is the fact for most Muslims.

6. Religious persons who are "sure" they are right, even if it only is from belief and not from proved facts, may react strongly - even with anger - when they meet opposition or opposing information/facts, especially if they themselves do not have good arguments to meet the opposing information/facts. You often meet this from Muslims.

7. It is typical for strong believers in an ideology - included in religions - that they often do not believe because of proved facts, but because of (often indoctrinated and often irrational) belief and claims. It also is typical for them that they are so sure they are right, that they dismiss - often out of hand and without even checking - any facts or proofs indicating, showing, or even proving that they are wrong. This also definitely goes for Muslims.

8. It also is typical for strong believers that they believe not because of proved facts, but often in spite of their belief or religion is proved wrong. This also definitely goes for Muslims.

9. Occam's Broom (the same Occam as the one with the razor): "The intellectual dishonest trick of ignoring facts that refute your argument in the hope that your audience won't notice". (New Scientist 21.Sept. 2013.) This trick is frequently used by Muhammad, by Islam, and by Muslims claiming that the Quran's texts and Islam are right - just use your ears and/or eyes, and brain, and you will find lots and lots of samples, f.x. in some of Muhammad's lies in the Quran.

10. Graham Lawton: "'Surely' (etc.*) and rhetorical questions (or statements*) - whenever you encounter these in a text, stop and think. The author usually wants you to skate over them as if the claim is so obvious as to be beyond doubt, or the answer self-evident. The opposite is often the case." Try to count such cases in the Quran - they are MANY. Especially the never proved claim "the Truth" and similar are very often used - f.x. words like: "Without doubt", "certain", "verily", "clear", "right", "fact", "wrong", "sign", "proof" (even modern Muslims disuse this word often), "self evident", and more. + there are many rhetorical questions in the Quran.

11. Daniel Kahneman (2002 Nobel Prise winner for research on psychological biases that distort rational decition-making - New Scientist 14. Aug. 2014, p. 24)): "An assimilation bias (is a bias*) that bends information to fit people's existing values and prejudices". You find much of assimilation biases in the Quran, in Islam, and among Muslims, all based on the wish to make the Quran seem true - or on the belief that it is true.

12. Who needs tricks like in points 8 and 9? And who needs the use of al-Taqiyya, Kitman, Hilah, deceit and other forms of dishonesty in words or deeds like Muhammad accepted and used? - the one without real arguments and real facts, and the cheat and deceiver, the swindler and the charlatan.

13. Is it possible for humans to know better than an omniscient god what the god "really" wants to say? And is it possible for humans to then explain things better and clearer than an omniscient god? - what the clumsy god "really" means and "really" tries to say? This is the logic behind many "explanations" from Islam and from Muslims.

14. The ways Islam and Muslims most frequently use for fleeing from facts and arguments they cannot answer or do not like are:

  1. A: "You just are a Muslim hater, (and therefore I do not have to think over or check what you say)". But most non-Muslims do not squander energy on hating Islam. They may be incredulous on Muslims' ability to see only what they want to see, their ability to "explain" away all facts and points they do not want to see, and disgusted by Islam's and the Quran's brutality and acceptance of dishonesty and blood, but the large majority do not bother to hate Islam.
  2. B: "You just are a Jew lover, (and therefore I do not have to think over or check what you say)". There are many who far from love the Jews, and all the same question f.x. all the wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, etc. in the Quran.

  3. C: "You cannot understand the meaning of a verse or something in the Quran, unless you know the entire surah (or the entire Quran)". For one thing this mostly is nonsense: There are points where the context may give a word, an expression, or a verse a special meaning, but mostly the fact is that if you are not able to read what a word, an expression, or a verse means, you are too dull or uneducated and should stay out of debates. (But it is an efficient argument, because most people do not know the Quran well enough to know if the claim is true or not. It mostly is not.) For another Islam and Muslims far from use such a rule themselves when discussing f.x. the Bible - cfr. f.x. their cherry-picking and disuse of the word "brother" in 5. Mos. 18/15 and 18/18 where they use only the single word "brother" and state that this means "Arabs", in spite of that the context strongly shows that Moses spoke about Jews (and also in 18/21 warned against false prophets).
  4. D: "This and this text with errors in the Quran, are not errors, but allegories, parables, etc." This in spite of that the Quran MANY places and in many ways tells that the claimed omniscient god has explained everything exactly and in detail so that it is easy to understand = to be understood literally where nothing else is clearly indicated - and that the search for hidden meanings where such are not indicated, only is "for the ones sick of heart" + that the possible hidden meanings only are for Allah to understand. All the same they pretend that they know better than Allah what he "really" wanted to tell, and that they are better at explaining things than the omniscient Allah.
  5. E: "You cannot understand the Quran properly unless you read it in Arab". One word: Nonsense - but an efficient pseudo-argument because most people do not know enough about such things to know if it may be true. But for one thing linguists tell that Arab just is a medium difficult language to translate. For another Arab around 650 AD was the language of primitive nomad tribes mainly, and far from an advanced and refined difficult language.
  6. F: "Arab has special words you only have in Arab". This goes for absolute every language. All it takes to solve this problem - in any language - is to have those words explained. Such Arab words relevant to the Quran are not too many.

A fact: "What one brain is able to express and explain, another brain of similar quality and education is able to understand". What a Muslim is able to express and explain, a non-Muslim of similar intelligence is able to understand - and often understand if it is right or wrong. This even more so as many a non-Muslim is better educated than many a Muslim.

15. ####Explanation or "explanation" of a few errors in a "holy" might be understandable. But how is it possible to accept long series of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, etc. in a book pretending to come from an omniscient god, without asking questions? - in a book the god even claims is plain and easy to understand = to be understood literally, and hidden meanings just are for "the sick of heart"?

16. Personally we have learnt much about human nature by witnessing Islam's and Muslims' ability to see only what they want to see, their ability to accept even the most far out "explanations", included dishonesty, trying to make errors, contradictions, etc. "correct facts" in the Quran, their ability to flee from any fact or argument they dislike or are able to meet, and not least their ability to flee instead of thinking over that non-Muslims may be as well-educated and well-informed as Muslims, and check what is true or not, instead of using blind belief in what their fathers have told - "taqlid".

17. The Bible is written by humans - and humans may make mistakes (there are some f.x. in Genesis). The Quran claims to be from an omniscient god. Omniscient gods do not make errors or contradictions. If there are errors or contradictions in the Quran, the book thus is not from a god. What then is Islam in case?

18. If there is a next life, and if there somewhere is a real god - f.x. Yahweh - they have been prevented from looking for, where will Muslims end if the Quran is a made up book? - and all the errors, etc. at least prove it is from no god.

19. If the Quran is not from a god - and all the wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, etc. denies that any god delivered the book - Islam is a made up religion.

20. It is easy to check if our quotes and points are correct. Before a Muslim flees from them, he/she should check them, instead of fleeing into "taqlid", because if our points - even only some of them - are right, the Quran is not from a god, and what is then Islam? - it is not the Truth unless it is true.

"Love your enemies, because they tell you your mistakes". Benjamin Franklin.

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ARE YAHWEH/GOD AND ALLAH THE SAME GOD?

Chapter I

IS ALLAH THE SAME GOD AS YAHWEH?

 

A short list.

Also see next chapter.

2/139a: “Will ye (Jews and Christians) dispute with us about Allah, seeing that He is our Lord and your Lord - - -”. Muhammad used to and Islam likes to pretend or state without any proof that Allah and Yahweh/God is the same god. But both the gods and their teachings are very different - as said before, especially if you compare the bloody god of war Allah was turned into in and after 622 AD, after Muhammad started to need warriors for highwaymen and later for wars, with the far milder and more benevolent God/Yahweh we meet in NT. The Quran makes a lot of statements about among other things this, but not one single proof, even though it should be easy for Allah to prove something - at least his own existence. Besides: Read history (drop glorifying propaganda and judge from acts and deeds and demands and introduced rules of moral, etc.- compare to "do against others like you want others do against you") - read Muslim history like ibn Ishaq if you want - and the Hadiths, and also the Quran, and see what kind of a man Muhammad really was! We do not accept the word of a man with that kind of moral and ethical standards, without proofs - there has to be limits to being naïve. And there only are his never proved claims for that Yahweh and Allah was/is the same god. Also: Contradiction to the Bible.

Even more essential: Yahweh and Allah are far too different - and too deeply different - to be the same god. Also their teachings are far too different and too deeply different - they do not come from the same god. And further f.x. their moral codes also are far too different and too fundamentally different to come from the same god.

These deep differences prove far more than 100% that this never proved claim from Muhammad and from the Quran is wrong - - - unless the god is deeply schizophrenic. Yahweh and Allah - if they exist, they are two very different gods.

If Islam or Muslims disagree, they first will have to prove that Allah exists, and that he and the Quran are not made up fairy tales, and then that Allah is so different from how he is described in the Quran, that he may be Yahweh all the same. (As the Bible is proved not falsified, Yahweh - and Jesus - may be correctly described there.)

Yahweh and Allah like described in the old books, and especially like Yahweh stands forth in NT, are so different, that they only can be the same god if that god is deeply schizophrenic. The old books simply prove this by many and strong circumstantial and empirical proofs.

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Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. ###### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 known versions of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions through the times) - is in case the correct one?

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok) ), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable is that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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549 2/125m: "- - - My (Allah's*) House (the Kabah mosque in Mecca*). Never mentioned in the Bible, which it should have been if it was the central point on Earth also for Yahweh. The difference in religious position of the Kabah for the two gods, is one of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. If they were the same god, Kabah's religious position had been the same for Yahweh and for Allah.

591 2/133b: (The sons of Jacob promised him before he died): "- - - the One (True) God (Allah*): to Him we bow (in Islam)". One more contradiction to the Bible. Further comments unnecessary - except: See 2/132c+d above.

628 2/139a: “Will ye (Jews and Christians) dispute with us about Allah, seeing that He is our Lord and your Lord - - -”. Islam likes to pretend or state without any proof, that Allah and Yahweh/God is the same god. But both the gods and their teachings are very different - as said before; especially if you compare the bloody god of war Allah was turned into in and after 622 AD, after Muhammad came to need warriors for highwaymen and later for wars, with the far milder and more benevolent God we meet in NT. The Quran makes a lot of statements, but not one single proof, even though it should be easy for Allah to prove something - at least his own existence. Besides: Read history (drop glorifying propaganda and judge from acts and deeds and demands and introduced rules of moral, etc.- compare to "do against others like you want others do against you") - read Muslim historians like ibn Ishaq, if you want - and the Hadiths, and also the Quran, and see what kind of a man Muhammad really was! We do not accept the word of a man with that kind of moral and ethical standards, included his acceptance of the use of dishonesty if that gave a better result, without proofs - there has to be limits to being naïve. Also: Contradiction to the Bible.

Yahweh and Allah like described in the old books, and especially like Yahweh stands forth in NT, are so different, that they only can be the same god if that god is deeply schizophrenic. Like said above: The old books simply prove this by many and strong circumstantial and empirical proofs - so many that they together make a proof of mathematical strength.

629 2/139b: "- - - seeing that He (Allah*) is our (Muslim's*) Lord and your (non-Muslim's*) Lord - - -". At least for Jews and Christians this is impossible to see, as Yahweh and Allah provably are not the same god. Also see 2/139a just above and 29/46ec below.

630 2/139c: “- - - (Allah*) is our (Muslims’*) Lord and your (non-Muslim’s*) Lord - - -“. As this claim only is based on other, not proved claims, and especially as there exist other explanations than Islam's, where at least some - f.x. about Yahweh - are based on stronger traditions, this is an invalid statement, unless it is proved. After all if the old books tell the truth, the Bible proves a number of things concerning Yahweh, whereas the Quran was unable to prove even a comma. Plus: Severe contradiction to the Bible plus fundamentally different teachings, moral codes, etc., prove that Allah cannot be the same god as Yahweh - fundamentally too different. Also see 29/46ec below.

631 2/139d: “- - - (Allah*) is our (Muslims’*) Lord and your (non-Muslim’s*) Lord - - -“. Contradicted by the Bible, where it is Yahweh/God who is the god for Jews and Christians at least. And perhaps in reality for all others. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs. As it stands now, the old books prove that Yahweh and Allah - and their teachings - are too different - yes, antipodes in several ways, "the god of love" vs. "a god of apartheid and war" - to be the same god.

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#########1133 2/225a: “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your heart”. If you swear an oath without thinking it over - or not enough over – you are not bound by it. But how are other people to know if the oath you have made is binding for you or not - or if you will break it? Besides; you may break also a more serious oath if that will give a better result, but you may have to pay expiation to Allah for it. See f.x. 2/224e-f above.

One of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. According to Yahweh you preferably shall not swear at all, but if you do, you are bound by your oath.

Besides: Any Muslim can break any oath, no matter how strong and how seriously meant, "if that gives a better result" - pay expiation afterwards if necessary. This also goes for other words and promises, as words and promises are weaker than oaths.

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1152 2/229e: "These are the limits ordained by Allah - - -". If Allah had ordained limits, those limits at least should have been given also in the Bible if Allah had been the same god as Yahweh - and remember here that both science and Islam has proved the Bible is not falsified, so that falsification cannot be the explanation why it is not in the Bible. (Besides: It is the Muslims who claim the Bible is falsified, and thus it is the Muslims' job to prove their claim - which they have never done.)

An even more serious point: As the Quran is not from any god - no god males that many and that serious wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, etc. - who did really make those limitations?

1230 2/246e: "- - - fight in the cause of Allah". Not in the Bible, as not even "- - - in the cause of Yahweh" is found there, yes, nowhere except in figurative meaning. There is no demand for war in the cause of the god in the Bible. Incompatible with especially NT. Not the same religion. Not the same god. Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion. This is one of the MANY proofs for these points.

There were some fighting in OT, but in the cause of the Jews or in the cause of their land, not in the cause of the god or in the cause of spreading his religion.

1296 2/255a: "There is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". (Also see 6/106b and 25/18a below). But:

  1. Both according to the Quran and to the Bible the old Jewish god (Yahweh) existed.
  2. Both according to the Quran and to the Bible Yahweh has proved his existence and his power many times, included via Jesus - there (according to both books if one or both of them tells the truth on this point) is no doubt about his existence and his power.
  3. The Quran claims that Allah and Yahweh is the same god. But this is not true, as the teachings fundamentally are far too different, especially if you compare the Quran with NT and the New Covenant via Jesus - a covenant Muslims never are told about by their imams or mullahs (f.x. Luke 22/20). The same goes for the underlying ethics and moral (parts of it is very twisted and different in the Quran from the most basic rule;"do onto others what you want others do onto you") and the stressing in especially NT of the value of empathy and love (empathy with and love of your fellow humans hardly are to be found in the Quran, and non-existing towards victims and non-Muslims), etc., not to mention that this also goes for the view on thieving (looting), lying (f.x. al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie), killing, etc. - not to be found in NT. The only possibility for the two to be the same god, is if the god is strongly schizophrenic. (See separate chapter about this in http://www.1000mistakes.com (planned completed in the final edition in 2016 or 2017, and copied in this book). Demand proofs from the next Muslim telling you that Yahweh is the same god as Allah.
  4. The Quran tries to explain away the differences between the Bible and the Quran, and thus the differences in the teachings, by claiming - like normal for Muhammad without a single document or proof - that the Bible is falsified. But this is not true, as science long since has proved by many and strong circumstantial and empirical proofs that there is no falsification. May be some mistakes - f.x. in Genesis - but no falsification. What is even more convincing is the fact that also Islam has proved the same, and most strongly, by not being able to find one single documented falsification among all the tens of thousands relevant old manuscripts.(There exist some 300 copies or fragments of the Gospels older than 610 AD, 12ooo other manuscripts or fragments from other parts of the Bible and 32ooo other documents/fragments with quotes or references from the Bible, from before 610 AD (before that there was no reason to falsify anything to expel Islamic teaching) - parts of this also older than 325 AD and council that year in Nicaea. (The number of copies and fragments can vary some from one source to another, but around these ones.) All have exactly the same and invariable texts within minor variations normal for hand-copied documents, and not one shows any traces of being tampered with - falsified - in ways that modern science can find. And modern science is good at finding falsifications, as it is a frequent kind of crime. No scratching out of text, no other tries of removing old text, no putting in new words, no new words written with another kind of ink, no new words with another handwriting, etc. Islam also never even has tried to explain how it could be possible to make identical falsifications in 40-45ooo and more different manuscripts spread over the whole known world and wider - and how it was possible for Jews and Christians to agree on identical falsifications. Muslims often claim the falsifications of OT were done by Ezra around 540 BC (impossible as the very central prophet Jesus accepted the old scriptures as correct 500-600 years later), and that the falsifications in NT were done at the mentioned meeting of bishops in Nicaea in 325 AD. But for one thing the agenda for that meeting is well known, and nothing like this was on that agenda. For another ting a lot of manuscripts are older than 325 AD exist (f.x. the Qumran scrolls) - not one of them falsified. And for a third: It is exactly as difficult to get bishops change the Bible, as it is to make ayatollahs change the Quran. (Muslims also claims that the OT was falsified when it "had to be rewritten" (by Ezra - see above) when the Jews returned from Babylon around 539 BC. But for one thing not all Jews were deported to Babylon (f.x. 2. Kings 25/12), and you bet the ones who remained, took care of their holy scriptures - religion is a comfort in difficult times. And for another thing also the Jews in exile had managed to keep some copies of the scriptures (f.x. Ezra "was a teacher well versed in the Laws of Moses" = the Books of Moses (Ezra 7/6) - which meant they had the books). And for a third: Jews lived in many countries also at that time, and in each and every synagogue there always was and is at least one copy of the scriptures - in addition to what was owned by members of the congregations. The OT simply never was rewritten - there never was a reason for that.) There simply never were any falsifications of any part of the Bible - like proved by science. But it is as said even better proved by Islam: If there had existed one single falsification, Islam had found it and screamed about it. Nobody has ever heard such a scream.
  5. ######And there is one more proof for that at least OT was not falsified - indirect, but very strong: The - according to the Quran - good Muslim Jesus for 3 years went around from synagogue to synagogue, read from and taught the congregations from the old scriptures in those synagogues. If the according to the Quran good Muslim and - according to both the Bible and the Quran - very central prophet Jesus had found falsifications, he had protested loudly and strongly. There is not reported any such case neither in the Bible, nor in the Quran, nor as far as we know in the Hadiths. An indirect, but most strong proof for that the Bible cannot have been falsified until after the death of Jesus in 33 AD - and relevant science knows for sure that it has not been falsified later (as the texts in the modern OT are the same as in known texts from before 33 AD - f.x. the Qumran scrolls), this in spite of Muhammad's many, but never proved claims. (Muhammad did not know the Bible, but took his "Biblical" stuff from legends, made up apocryphal stories, etc. The result was that what he claimed the Bible told, often differed from what the book really told - and the only way for Muhammad to save his new religion and platform of power then was to claim that the Bible was falsified. (He never even tried to prove his claim.)
  6. As Yahweh clearly existed, if the old books tell the truth, and as clearly was/is not the same god as Allah, and as Islam's "explanation" ("falsification") is wrong, Islam here has a problem when claiming there only is one god, Allah. Even if we omit all other (claimed) gods, there still remains Yahweh, whose existence they have admitted, and who by far is too different from Allah to be the same god, in spite of Muhammad's never proved claims.
  7. This problem grows even more interesting when one remember that Yahweh has proved his existence and power many times if either the Bible or the Quran or both tell the truth on this point, whereas Allah has proved exactly nothing - there only are words and claims from a man with a very doubtful moral (even according to Muslim books, included the Quran - take away the glorious words and see what remains) behind the claims for Allah's existence and power.
  8. And: If there then exists one, but only one god - who is most likely to exist? - Yahweh or Allah?
  9. But what is provably clear from the old books, is that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - not unless that god was strongly schizophrenic.

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We repeat because this is so essential:

Some Muslims as mentioned claim Ezra falsified OT, but in addition to other facts:

THERE IS ONE STRONG FACT CONNECTED TO JESUS AND THE OTHER OLD JEWISH PROPHETS: ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THEY ALL WERE GOD MUSLIMS - AN IMPOSSIBILITY FOR THE ONES AFTER EZRA (around 540 BC) IF THEIR CLAIMED HOLY BOOKS FROM ALLAH WERE FALSIFIED. THUS THE CLAIMED FALSIFICATION OF ALSO OT CANNOT HAVE HAPPENED UNTIL AFTER JESUS (F.X. EZRA COULD NOT HAVE FALSIFIED OT, LIKE SOME MUSLIMS CLAIM - IF HE HAD, JESUS HAD RECEIVED WRONG INFORMATION AND HAD BEEN NO GOOD MUSLIM). THIS IN ADDITION TO THAT THE BOOKS WERE SENT DOWN (DIRECTLY) FROM ALLAH TO THE PROPHETS, ACCORDING TO THE QURAN, AND ERRORS IN THEM THEREFORE SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. ALL THE OLD GOOD MUSLIM PROPHETS INCLUDED JESUS THUS MUST HAVE HAD CORRECT HOLY BOOKS - THE OLD JEWISH SCRIPTURES/OT. IF NOT F.X. JESUS HAD BEEN TEACHING WRONG THINGS, WHICH HE DID NOT DO ACCORDING TO THE QURAN (and if the scrolls he read from in the synagogues had differed from what he received from Heaven, he had told about it - if not he was a bad Muslim). THE ONLY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION HERE IS THAT ALSO NO PART OF THE OLD SCRIPTURES - OT - CAN HAVE BEEN FALSIFIED UNTIL AFTER JESUS TIME = AFTER THE YEAR 33 AD..

BUT THERE EXIST PLENTY OF MANUSCRIPTS AND FRAGMENTS OLD ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT OT WAS NOT SIMILAR TO THE QURAN AT THAT TIME!!! IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE OT OF TODAY!!! (Look f.x. at the Qumran scrolls - the Biblical parts of them are from 150 - 50 BC, and thus identical to the ones Jesus used - - - and identical to what you find in today's OT (except minor differences normal for hand copied scriptures)).

In addition there is the problem: How in case make Jews and Christians and different sects agree on what new texts to use when they falsified (parts of) the Quran into OT??? And how to make ALL Jews spread over large parts of the world unprotestingly accept the new and falsified holy scriptures - and destroy all the old copies so thoroughly that not one piece of any of them has been found later? This in addition to the claimed falsification of NT and all the impossibilities and improbabilities which have to be "explained" away concerning the claimed falsification of NT.

Not to forget: It was and is exactly as easy to make bishops, etc. agreeing on falsification of the Bible as it was/is to make Muslim religious leaders agree on falsifying the Quran - and for similar reasons.

THIS IS ONE OF THE CLAIMS MUHAMMAD MADE UP.

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003 3/2a: "There is no god but He (Allah*)". Well, what is for sure is that Allah is not the same god as Yahweh (if any of them exists) - the teachings are fundamentally too different. (The only possibility is if the god is strongly schizophrenic.) Also see 2/225a above and 6/106b and 25/18a below. Another thing which is for sure, is that the existence of Allah was and is never proved. And a third: The only basis for the claims about Allah, is the word of a man who would be accepted by no court in any real democracy, as a reliable witness, as he believed in the use of lies (al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie, Kitman - the lawful half-truth, etc.), deception and even the breaking of words and oaths, but pay expiation if necessary (2/225a above, 5/89a+b, 16/91e, 66/2a below). (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

Both the Bible and the Quran states that the old Jewish and Christian god existed, even though the Quran wrongly mixes him up with Allah (the question of other gods - f.x. the Hindu ones - we omit here, even though Muslim "proof-hunters" claim to find proofs for Islam f.x. also in religious Hindu tales (and thus confirm that the Hindu gods must exist - if not those gods' revelations could not be true, and thus could not prove anything about Islam)). Thus there are at least two, Yahweh and Allah - - - if Allah exists (the chance or that Yahweh exists is better). And two very different gods, especially like you meet Yahweh in NT: "The god of love" vs. "a god of war".

####285 3/54b: ”- - - and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.” This verse is one of the verses the Muslim phenomena al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and Hilah (the lawful pretending or circumventing - "the dishonesty in disguise") are based on – when Allah can “plot and plan” (indicating using dishonest means), of course his followers can do the same as long as it is not forbidden – which it is not. Also see 2/26h, 2/224e-f, 2/225a, 4/142a, 8/30, 10/21b, 13/42, 27/50, and 86/16 - dishonesty as a policy is one of the fundamental rules in the Quran's moral - or immoral - code. Al-Taqiyya, Kitman, and Hilah are permitted in 8 - 10 wide cases, and advised "if necessary" in 2: To defend and to promote Islam. Worth remembering for Muslims and non-Muslims alike; what is true and what is not true in Muslims' arguments about such things? And how much is true in a religion partly relying on dishonesty? - - - and what then about its claimed prophet, Muhammad? - how much of his words are Kitmans or al-Taqiyyas or deceit, etc.? (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

Just for the record: Al-Taqiyya, Kitman, and Hilah can be used at least in the cases listed below (for broken oaths there are given no real limitations - if the broken oath will give a better result, then use it. By implication this also goes for ordinary promises, as an oath is something stronger than a normal promise. Also for deceit there are given no real limits. Muhammad said according to f.x. ibn Ishaq, "The life of Muhammad", that "war is deceit" - and according to many Muslims "anything" is war (according to Islam also everything outside Islamic lands are "area of war"), and in war, you shall use any means to win, according to the Quran):

  1. To save your or others' health or life.
  2. To get out of a tight spot or a dangerous problem.
  3. To make peace in a family.
  4. When it will give a better result than honesty or honoring one’s word or oath.
  5. To cheat women (should be remembered by girls with Muslim boyfriends wanting sex - or wanting a marriage to get residence permit in a rich country.)
  6. To deceive opponents/enemies.
  7. To betray enemies.
  8. To secure one’s money (very clear from Hadiths).
  9. To defend Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)
  10. To promote Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)

But al-Taqiyya, etc. is a double-edged sword: In the short run you may cheat and deceive some ones – actually also in the long run if the opposite part does not know about this side of Muslims and of Islam, or if he/she is naïve or brain washed or wishes to believe.

But in the long run the surroundings learn that it is impossible quite to trust a Muslim in serious questions: When is he speaking the honest truth and when is he using an al-Taqiyya or some other kind of "lawful" dishonesty? - lawful at least according to the Quran and to the Sharia laws.

DO YOU WONDER WHY ISLAM AND ITS MUSLIMS SO SELDOM USE THE CLAIM "ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF HONE STY"?

331 3/64d: “- - - that we (Muslims and Jews/Christians*) worship none but Allah (= Yahweh and Allah is claimed to be the same god*)”. Wrong. This is not possible as the fundamental differences between the Quran and the Bible/NT are too big and too many – not unless the god is schizophrenic. Mainly only Muslims say this – and they will have to bring strong proofs to be believed by us.

Which raises the question: Are Muhammad and his Arabs really descendants from Abraham (and thus earlier of the same religion)? At least they in case only are maximum quarter breeds, as Ishmael’s mother, Hagar, was a slave from Egypt (1. Mos. 16/1), and also his wife (only one is mentioned) was from Egypt (also according to the Bible, written and unabridged since more than 1000 years before Muhammad – 1. Mos.21/20). Well, worse than that: Modern DNA analysis has showed that the pure Arab does not exist. Arabia is on a crossroad – caravans and merchants have passed through - - - and left babies behind now and then (remember that before Muhammad in Arabia sex and alcohol were “the two delightful things”). And Arab caravans and traders roamed wide – and now and then brought back brides from abroad. And finally the perhaps main reason for the diluted blood: The slaves. Literally millions of slaves from Africa and other places – some 2/3 of them women – have through the times been brought to Arabia, both before and after Muhammad. And the women of the harems – do you think they were permitted to demand condoms? It is impossible to say there are not traces of DNA from Abraham in Arabs – perhaps via Jewish slave women? But any scientist will say that the chances for finding much more DNA from Abraham (if he ever existed) in Jews than in Arabs are big, because the Jews mostly have been intermarrying because of the excluding religion. Arabs? Diluted blood and hardly any traces of Abraham - none if the Bible tells the truth when it tells that Ishmael settled near the border of Egypt (1. Mos. 25/18 - and there was no reason for him who wrote 1. Mos. not to tell the truth), or if science is correct when it says that "it is very unlikely Abraham ever visited Mecca". Blood from Abraham in Arabs? Small parts of milliliters in case. Blood in Arabs from f.x. Negro slaves? One or a few deciliters in each Arab.

####200 29/46f: “- - - our (Muslims*) and your (Jews and Christians*) god is one - - -”. This is not correct unless he is schizophrenic, as too many fundamental aspects are too different between the two teachings. To mention a few points (there are MANY more):

Islam: The New Testament:
Do not kill without a good reason. Do not kill.
To wage war is a religious duty. Do not kill.
An eye for an eye. Turn the other cheek.
You cannot carry another’s burden. Carry your fellow man’s burden.
Religion shall run the country. My land is not of this world.
Be killed for Allah and go to Paradise. Become like a child to go to Paradise.
Paradise = Earth-like luxury plus women Paradise = Heaven for your soul.
(for women = Earth-luxury and a share of the husband). (for women = Heaven for your soul.)
Paradise = resurrected body. Paradise = the soul lives on.
Do not lie except for good reason. Do not lie.
Do not mourn the unbeliever. “The lost lamb”.
Break an oath and pay expiation for it if necessary. To break any oat is a severe sin.
Al-Taqiyya – Muslims’ lawful lie. Do not lie.
Kitman - Muslims' lawful half-truth. Do not lie.
Hilah - Muslims' lawful pretending/circumventing”. Do not lie.
"War is deceit” - and "everything" is holy war. Do not lie.
To rob and steal may be “lawful and good” and a duty. Do not steal.
To rape a female slave is “lawful and good”. So immoral that it is not even mentioned.
Help others to gain merit in heaven. Help others because they need it – and gain merit in heaven.

*A similar sentence exists also in Islam (in Hadiths), but it is so well hidden and forgotten and sleeping, that we never have heard it quoted even from Muslims trying to prove what a benevolent religion Islam is.

(For those who do not know: Jesus said that if someone hit you on one cheek, turn the other towards him = answer bad with good. And: Jesus said that a good shepherd would search for a lost lamb = to save a lost soul is very valuable, and there is a reason to mourn the not saved ones.)

We know both religions have been misused – though with one serious difference: Christ has been misused in contradiction to its teaching, Islam very often because of and in accordance with the Quran’s often bloody teaching and lack of real moral.

But these are some of the teachings – some of the fundamental points. And it is worth repeating here that science (and even more so Islam) has proved that the Bible is not falsified – a few mistakes, but no falsifications. This in spite of the Quran’s and Islam’s never documented claims of much falsification. Islam will have to show proofs for the claims, if they want to be believed – proofs they have been unable to find in 1400 years. (We also reminding you that the only other alternative is that something is seriously wrong with the Quran and hence with Islam, as no god makes a book full of errors, etc.). Only Islam says it is the same god - and they are wrong, as the differences between the 2 are too many and too deep, unless the god is mentally ill. Similar claims in 2/139 -3/64 – 42/13.

Also see separate chapter - hopefully to be launched in 2016 AD - in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran", Book A under http://www.1000mistakes.com .

Only Islam says that Yahweh and Allah are the same god - and they are wrong, unless the god is mentally ill.

750 3/142c: "- - - (fight*) (in His (Allah's*) Cause - - -". As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god, it is a very open question if the raids and wars were and are in Allah's cause.

Also: Similar is not to be found in the Bible - one more strong indication for that the two are not the same god.

##843 3/158a: “And if ye die, or are slain, lo! It is unto Allah that ye are brought together”. Be killed in war for Allah, and go to paradise - good “knowledge” for a warrior or terrorist. Whoever said the Quran has to be disused to justify terrorism, has hardly ever read the Quran - or uses an al-Taqiyya (a lawful lie - this "convenient" Islamic only phenomenon). See also 3/157b above.

889 3/167d: "- - - fight in the way of Allah - - -". Verses like this - and there are many of them in the Quran - are more or less the antithesis to NT. Yahweh and Allah the same god? You only need two letters for the answer "no".

1059 3/199h: "For them (strongly believing Jews and Christians*) is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account". Here the Quran once more wrongly indicates that Yahweh and Allah is the same god, a claim which obviously is wrong, as the teachings, moral codes, etc. of those two too often and too fundamentally are too different.

But remember as for punishment and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

331 4/74d: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give him a reward of great (value) (= Paradise*)”. What can be a better reward - - - if it is true? And what can be a cheaper way for leaders to get warriors, than promises of payment in the next life? - especially if the religion is made up (and remember that this is likely, as the Quran with all its mistakes is from no god) and the Quran's paradise thus does not exist.

But if Yahweh and Jesus rule the perhaps next life, Muslims will not find that the gate to Heaven opens automatically. They are very different from Allah and Muhammad.

332 4/74e: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give him a reward of great (value) (= Paradise*)". Guess if this is a contradiction to NT!!! Yahweh and Allah the same god? You NEVER find things like this in NT - NEVER - and not even in OT (there they fought for (establishing and later defending) their country, not for the god or the religion). One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

###339 4/76b: “Those who believe (Muslims*) fight in the cause of Allah - - -". This is about as far from NT as you can come. Allah and Yahweh the same god? One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

###391 4/84c: “Then fight in Allah’s cause - - -.” This one is strongly contradicted both by OT (where one fought first to establish a country and later to defend it, and definitely not for the god), and even far more - 180 degrees opposite - by NT (which does not accept physical fighting at all - "turn the other cheek"). One of the many points in the Quran which singlehanded proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion - and then there are all the other proofs.

455 4/94f: "- - - with Allah are profits and spoils abundant". Make money on and steal from others during/after war - steal it "lawful and good". One more sentence which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - stealing is an absolute NO in NT - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

471 4/95+96b: “- - - those who strive hath Allah distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward – Ranks specially bestowed by Him (Allah*), and Forgiveness (for anything if you are killed in battle*) and Mercy.” The total and 180 degree difference from NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and one of those many proofs which each alone proves this.

But remember as for punishment and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given by Allah unless there are made changes in his the Plan, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

620 4/131e: “- - - We (Allah*) have directed the People of the Book before you (Muslims*) - - -.” Wrong. The "People of the Book" believe in Yahweh, and Yahweh and Allah are not the same god – not unless the god is seriously ill mentally – the teachings are too different and Islam also never has been able to do anything but claiming that they are the same god – never a proof or any kind of documentation. They only show you to a book with very many mistakes, told by a very doubtful man, who also never was able to prove anything, and wrongly claim – without documentation also here – that this is a proof. After all a proof is "one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". The "signs" and "proofs" in the Quran all are invalid (perhaps with the exception of those "borrowed" from the Bible, and which in case prove Yahweh), mostly because they do not build on proved facts, only on claims or on nothing.

017 5/2f: "- - - Sacred Months - - -". One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - the months are sacred for Allah, but to Yahweh not interesting enough to even mention.

#021 5/2j: "- - - Sacred House - - -". The mosque Kabah in Mecca is one of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. There is not one chance that a god had not mentioned his most sacred place and the duties and benefits connected to it, to his strongly believing followers relatively nearby - f.x. to Abraham and Moses or a powerful king like David, who could have tried to conquer the area to get it into his country. But neither the Kabah nor Mecca is mentioned even one single time in the entire Bible.

053 5/5l: "- - - dower - - -". There is no demand for dower in the NT - one more contradiction to the Bible. And as dower is a must to Allah, but of no interest to Yahweh, it is another difference so essential that it indicates or even proves Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

##092 5/12e: "I (Allah*) am with you (the Jews*): if ye (but) establish regular Prayers - - -". There is no demand, request or even mentioning of a fixed number of prayers or fixed times for prayers in the Bible. As this is so essential to Allah, that it is one of the 5 pillars of Islam, but of no interest at all for Yahweh - pray when there is a reason or when you feel for it - the 5 fixed prayers of the Quran is one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem which really can have only one valued solutions, can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. F.x. in cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. Islam teaches differently. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1): Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. Islam is teaching differently. 2): The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other. Islam is teaching differently.)

Another fact: Today it is easy by means of statistical methods to check if prayers have any effect. (Let f.x. 1ooo persons each pray for one among 1ooo unknown persons sick or in other ways in need. compare the result after some time with a similar group of 1ooo who has not been prayed for, and see if there is a difference. If there is a positive difference, this would be a strong indication or perhaps even a proof for something - a proof Islam strongly needs, as it has not any proof for a single of its central claims. But it has not even tried to make such a test. Why?)

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######228 5/35g: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b*) in His (Allah’s*) cause - - -”. For us this is one of the most detestable points in the entire Quran and Islam: Fight and steal and rob and mutilate and rape and enslave and hate and murder and get rich and suppress in the name of your god, and as a service to your god - a claimed good and benevolent god!

The same god as Yahweh? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? Don't ask silly questions.

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249 5/40f: "He (Allah*) forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and punish whom He pleaseth - - -". Whereas the Christian god according to the Bible forgives anyone who honestly regrets and tries to make amends, and punishes only those who deserve it. The same god? Forget it.

464 5/73b: “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity - - -.” Muhammad said Yahweh = Allah, and he never understood the trinity - he even believed it consisted of Yahweh, Jesus, and Mary, a mistake no god - agreeing or not agreeing to the Trinity - would have made. But for once there is a possibility that the Quran has a point; the Trinity is formally not a part of the Bible. On the other hand those are the three special ones: Yahweh, Jesus and the Holy Spirit - we may think of them as God, his co-worker and representative, and his errand boy/messenger boy and helper. Trinity or not - those three have a special status according to both the Bible and the Quran (even though the Quran does not agree to which status - Islam even say the Holy Spirit = the angel Gabriel, which makes anyone really knowing the Bible laugh.) There also is the fact that according to the Bible, Jesus said that he and his father was one - but figuratively meant. Also see 5/73a just above.

Besides: Is it possible to blaspheme Allah if he does not exist?

As for the Trinity: It is a dogma decided by humans after much discussion; it is not part of the Bible - but see 5/17a above. (This dogma is from the 4. century, and it got its present form from the so-called Cappadocian Fathers (Gregory of Nyassa (332-395 AD), Basil the Great (320-79 AD), Gregory of Nazeanzus (329-389 AD). The nearest you come in the Bible is that Jesus said that he and his father, Yahweh, were one.) Also see 5/17a and 5/73b. But no-one in his right mind and with some knowledge about the Bible, would ever believe Mary was part of the trinity. Any even baby god had known. Then who made the Quran?

058 8/13a: "This (kill them*) because they contended against Allah and His Messenger - - -". How much Allah and how much Muhammad?

Also one more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion - there never in the entire Bible is an incitement to war for the god (there were wars in OT, but defense or - mainly - to establish and later defend a national country for the Jews, never waging war for Yahweh, not to mention for Jesus or any other prophet).

###181a 8/39aa: “And fight with them (the Unbelievers who will not convert to Islam*) on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere”. Religious war is incompatible with the Bible, not to mention the NT. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - too big differences on too many fundamental points.

##325 8/72d: “Those who believed - - - and fought for the Faith, with their property (= gave money - like many Muslims do even today*) and their persons (= went to war personally*), in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave them (warriors, terrorists*) asylum and aid (like what a large numbers of Muslims do today also - at least giving money and sympathy and aid to “the cause” included terrorism*) - all these (are good Muslims*)”. Comments unnecessary. Except one more strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

127 9/19g: "- - - strive with might and mind in the cause of Allah - - -". Guess if this conflicts with the Bible! Even in the rather hard and harsh OT the wars were not for Yahweh, but for establishing and then defending a national state for the Jews, and not for the religion. And in NT war is hardly an accepted thing at all. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Nope. Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion, not to mention in the same line of prophets? - more than nope.

###137 9/20c: “Those who believe, and suffer exile and strive with their might and main (= fight in raids/war*), in Allah’s cause, with their goods (= giving money to war expenses*) and their persons (= fighting personally in raids/war or terrorism - in “any stratagem of war”*), have the highest rank in the sight of Allah - - -”. It is hardly worth the bother to tell that you find nothing like this in the Bible, not to mention in NT. Yahweh the same god as Allah? Jesus in the same line of prophets as Muhammad? Anyone able to believe such claims either need much more knowledge or a psychiatrist. An at least 200% proof.

164 9/24e: "- - - or the striving in His (Allah's*) cause ("Quran-speak" for waging war*) - - -". Going to war for Muhammad/Allah gives top marks in the claimed "religion of peace". Guess if this is contradicted by the NT - one of the many strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion! Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

225 9/31e : "- - - yet they (the Christians*) were commanded to worship but One God - - -". Muhammad never understood the Christian religion and thinking. According to Christians there is only one god. Then there is a figure - a helper or something (the son, Jesus) - who in reality gets his light and his power from God/Yahweh. And finally there is something more diffuse and seldom seen; The messenger boy or something named the Holy Spirit (sometimes wrongly claimed to be the arch angel Gabriel by Muslims, who have never read the Bible, or who have read it with a closed mind). To use a picture: There is one sun. Then there is a moon which gets its light from the sun. And there is the seldom seen satellite somewhere around. But only one sun. And that is the complete "pantheon". To mix Mary into the Trinity (like Muhammad does at least one place in the Quran) just is one more proof for that no god made the Quran, and for that Muhammad did not understand the trinity. Mary and the other saints (only for the Catholics, and not for all of them) are not divine. In Islam some good Muslims end in the higher heavens closer to Allah. In the same way Catholics believe that some really good Christians end up closer to God in Heaven - though figuratively. And just like Muhammad claimed he can interfere for whom he like on the Last Day, Catholics believe that as these normal, but good, humans called saint can interfere with God on our behalf, as they are closer to him. But as this is not a part of the Bible, the Protestants - and the Sunni Muslims - may be right: May be there are no saints.

###269 9/39a: “Unless ye (Muslims*) go forth (in war/battle for Islam/Muhammad*), He (Allah*) will punish you with a grievous penalty (normally in the Quran a synonym for Hell*) - - -”. An order not possible to misunderstand for a pious - or fanatic - Muslim.

Yes, a religion built on peace, goodness and heavenly ethics.

THIS IS THE ORDER ALSO TODAY - JUST LISTEN TO SOME IMAMS, ETC. - see 9/38d.

THIS VERSE TELLS HORRIBLY MUCH ABOUT ISLAM AS IT IS TAUGHT IN THE QURAN.

One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - not to mention that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion.

482 9/81h: This verse in short: The ones not willing to do battle, may end in hell. Do you want to end there? One more of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad neither serving the same god nor the same religion. The differences between them - and between their teachings, moral codes, etc. - are far too big, too deep, and too fundamental

641 9/111b: “Allah hath purchased of the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise): they fight in His (Allah’s) Cause, and slay and are slain (and go to Paradise afterwards*) - - -.” Try to find something similar to this in NT - or even in the more warlike OT. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets (even omitting the fact that Muhammad was unable to make prophesies - "see the unseen")? The answers are very obvious - one of the 200%+ proofs for that Muhammad was not telling the truth here, not to mention for that Yahweh and Allah are different gods (if one or both exists). This also is incompatible to the Bible.

662 9/113d: "It is not fitting, for the Prophet and those who believe, that they should pray forgiveness for Pagans, even though they be of kin - - -". This cynical sentence tells a few megabytes about the Quran, about Muhammad, and about Islam - not to mention about the Quran's and Islam's moral code. Even if this was the only difference between the Bible and the Quran, this alone had been a 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. And remember: Science has proved far beyond any even unreasonable doubt that the Bible and especially the NT is not falsified, in spite of Muhammad's never proved claims - may be some mistakes, but no falsifications. The best proof for this is Islam: If one single real falsification had been found, Islam had screamed about it to every living being on Earth, included rats and worms. No such scream has ever been heard.

###031 14/5d: “Bring out thy (Moses’*) people (the Jews*) from the depth of darkness into light, and teach them to remember the Days of Allah”. We just remind you that Muhammad claimed Allah = Yahweh - a claim which is easy to see is wrong, as the fundamental ideas and ideologies in the teachings, moral codes, etc. are too deeply different (Yahweh mainly love and peace and empathy, Muhammad Nazi-like haughtiness, discrimination and war - and lawful dishonesty (al-Taqiyya, etc)). Because of this claim, he uses the name Allah for Yahweh. This mistake is so obvious and so easy to see, that often we do not bother to comment on it.

Also remember that there exists no known trace from any god like Muhammad's Allah or any religion like Islam anywhere in the world older than 610 AD, when Muhammad started his mission. Moses lived some 2ooo years earlier.

256 16/56d: "- - - your (non-Muslims'*) false inventions (other gods than Allah*)". But are all of them false inventions? There f.x. is the problem of the old Jewish and Christian god Yahweh, who according to the Bible far from is a made up god - in stark contrast to Allah, still according to the Bible. NB: Also the Quran tells that the old Jewish and Christian god exists, though they mix up his name up with their own god Allah.

And there is the contra question: Does Allah belong among the false gods? He after all is the dressed up pagan Arab god al-Lah, and his claimed holy book is so full of wrong facts and other errors, etc. that it 100% sure is not from any god.

And: If it is falsehood, is it falsehood to Allah if Allah does not exist, or if he exists but is something different from what the Quran describes?

224 17/61b: "Behold We (Allah*) said to the angels: 'Bow down to Adam'". This is one of the many clear proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god: In the Quran man is superior to angels. In the Bible the situation is not as clearly told as in the Quran, but angels clearly are "higher" than man. Which shows that Yahweh's angels are not the same as Allah's, and thus also that the Paradises are different (angels are an integrated part of Yahweh's Paradise, but are hardly mentioned in Allah's). With marked different angels and very marked different Paradises, the two are not the same god.

##099 19/36b: “Verily Allah is my (Muhammad’s*) Lord and your (other people's*) Lord - - -“. This is a serious one: Here clearly it is Muhammad himself – Muhammad the man - who is speaking. How is that possible in a book made by a god before the universe (see 51/47c) was created, or may be one which has existed since eternity, and a copy of a revered Mother Book sent down from Heaven by Allah? (There are a few mistakes (?) like this in the Quran (8 places in the book where it is Muhammad who is talking ?) – see f.x. 2/286c, 6/114a, 27/91a, and 51/50-51.)

But it definitely is no proved verity/truth that Allah really is a god, or if he in case is correctly described in the Quran.

##147 22/30b: "- - - the sacred rites of Allah - - -". These rites - so essential to Allah in spite of being pagan ones, and pretty childish/naive ones fitting primitive minds mainly - are so entirely different from anything Yahweh asks for, that especially combined with the very demand for going on pilgrimage to one special place, and a place of no interest to Yahweh, they make up one more 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. This even more so as the demanded place as said is one totally without interest to Yahweh - not mentioned a single time in the entire Bible. And neither Yahweh, nor Jesus ever expressed a wish for humans to practice pilgrimage (there is pilgrimage among Christians, too, but the request for such ones is not from the Bible - f.x. not one of the Biblical prophets, included Jesus, ever made a pilgrimage or even wanted to do so, not to mention a pilgrimage to Kabah).

152 22/32a: "- - - the symbols of Allah - - -". Here referring to the rites of the pilgrimage - the hajj - in Mecca, likely especially to the ones connected to the sacrifice of animals.

If Yahweh and Allah had been the same god, it had been somewhat peculiar that the god liked such sacrifices in the OT, but dropped it in the New Covenant and the teaching of Jesus - for them to reinstall it shortly (at least shortly for a god) afterwards. A god with no clear ideas for what he wants?

Most of the rituals during Hajj are taken over from the old pagan Arab religion. It is peculiar if pagan polytheistic rites are symbols of a monotheistic god, and as peculiar that only the Arab pagan religion "happened" to have the correct rites. There are no similar rites in NT; not the same god, Jesus and Muhammad far from in the same religion.

Also the rites are very primitive - fit old pagan religions. Of course one can claim symbolism - one can claim symbolism from the stories of Al Capone, Baron von Münchausen, Adolph Hitler, and Donald Duck - but also the symbolisms in the rites are primitive ones, fitting primitive, naive minds. Throw stones at "the Devil", walk the old magic number of 7 times around the Kabah, kill some defenseless animals, etc.

Both the rites and the claimed symbols tell a lot about Islam.

318 22/60c: "- - - if one has retaliated to no greater extent than the injury he received, and is again set upon inordinately, Allah will help him - - -". If you are attacked more times after a reasonable revenge the first time, you are permitted to do whatever you like and use whatever means, and Allah will accept and forgive it (A22/74). Also this is widely different from the moral ideas behind NT. Not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad absolutely not in the same religion (remember f.x. Jesus' "Love your enemy", "Turn the other cheek".

As for forgiving from Allah: Also see 2/187d and 67/9c above.

319 27/91b: "- - - Him (Allah*) Who has sanctified it (the town Mecca*) - - -". One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god: To Allah Mecca is very holy and central, whereas neither Yahweh, nor anyone else in the Bible even mentions it one single time - not in any connection. F.x. none of the Jewish prophets, included Jesus, ever uttered one single wish to visit that claimed top holy place - not even at Ramadan/the time for Jihad. Not one of them and not one single time. One of the 200% - at least - proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, not to mention for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion.

####200 29/46f: “- - - our (Muslims*) and your (Jews and Christians*) god is one - - -”. This is not correct unless he is schizophrenic, as too many fundamental aspects are too different between the two teachings. To mention a few points (there are MANY more):

Islam: The New Testament:
Do not kill without a good reason. Do not kill.
To wage war is a religious duty. Do not kill.
An eye for an eye. Turn the other cheek.
You cannot carry another’s burden. Carry your fellow man’s burden.
Religion shall run the country. My land is not of this world.
Be killed for Allah and go to Paradise. Become like a child to go to Paradise.
Paradise = Earth-like luxury plus women Paradise = Heaven for your soul.
(for women = Earth-luxury and a share of the husband). (for women = Heaven for your soul.)
Paradise = resurrected body. Paradise = the soul lives on.
Do not lie except for good reason. Do not lie.
Do not mourn the unbeliever. “The lost lamb”.
Break an oath and pay expiation for it if necessary. To break any oat is a severe sin.
Al-Taqiyya – Muslims’ lawful lie. Do not lie.
Kitman - Muslims' lawful half-truth. Do not lie.
Hilah - Muslims' lawful pretending/circumventing”. Do not lie.
"War is deceit” - and "everything" is holy war. Do not lie.
To rob and steal may be “lawful and good” and a duty. Do not steal.
To rape a female slave is “lawful and good”. So immoral that it is not even mentioned.
Help others to gain merit in heaven. Help others because they need it – and gain merit in heaven.

 

*A similar sentence exists also in Islam (in Hadiths), but it is so well hidden and forgotten and sleeping, that we never have heard it quoted even from Muslims trying to prove what a benevolent religion Islam is.

(For those who do not know: Jesus said that if someone hit you on one cheek, turn the other towards him = answer bad with good. And: Jesus said that a good shepherd would search for a lost lamb = to save a lost soul is very valuable, and there is a reason to mourn the not saved ones.)

We know both religions have been misused – though with one serious difference: Christ has been misused in contradiction to his teaching, Islam very often because of and in accordance with the Quran’s often bloody teaching and lack of real moral.

But these are some of the teachings – some of the fundamental points. And it is worth repeating here that science (and even more so Islam) has proved that the Bible is not falsified – a few mistakes, but no falsifications. This in spite of the Quran’s and Islam’s never documented claims of much falsification. Islam will have to show proofs for the claims, if they want to be believed – proofs they have been unable to find in 1400 years. (We also remind you that the only other alternative is that something is seriously wrong with the Quran and hence with Islam, as no god makes a book full of errors, etc.). Only Islam says it is the same god - and they are wrong, as the differences between the two are too many and too deep, unless the god is mentally ill. Similar claims in 2/139 -3/64 – 42/13.

Also see separate chapter - hopefully to be launched in 2016 AD - in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran", Book A under http://www.1000mistakes.com .

Only Islam says it is the same god - and they are wrong, unless the god is mentally ill.

084 37/48b: “And besides them (Muslim men in Paradise*) will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty).” These are the famous houris who are to comfort Muslim men in Paradise. And what comfort did primitive – and for that case some other – men think of? The women are solely for man’s pleasure in Paradise, too, (well, on Earth they also are for giving him sons). Nothing is said in the Quran about where the houris come from, nothing is said about how they like to be in the harems of often rough, uneducated and primitive – and naïve? – warriors - - - and also nothing is said about how the wives enjoy the competition. Only what the man likes counts.

There as mentioned is another mystery: From where did the houris come? – and what were they. A theory that the early Muslims – f.x. Hasan al-Basri - believed, is that they were women who had lived a pious and good life on Earth. Of necessity they could not have been married (or married to men that ended in Hell?), because married women followed their husbands – it is not said which one if they had been married more times, but perhaps the last one). But how many such single women existed compared to the millions of warriors that had a right to up to 72 each? And how did such women like to be sex slaves for often rough and self centered and primitive men – was it a Paradise for them too, or - - -? Another theory was/is that they were girls who died as babies or unmarried children - but then they in case should belong to their father's household in Paradise. And the same question: How many children died compared to how many houris needed as gifts to warrior and terrorist? - several dozen houris to each brave warrior.

#199 38/73: "So the angels prostrated themselves (for Adam*), all of them together (quite a number - there must be millions and billions according to some places in the Quran and in Hadiths*) - - -". This proves that in the Quran, humans are high above angels as beings. In the Bible this is not clearly defined anywhere, but all the same it is very clear that angels are beings superior to humans. One more clear proof for that that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - also their heavens are too different.

114 44/53: "Dressed in fine silk and rich brocade - - -". The Quran's paradise is like a poor, uneducated and naive desert warrior's dream about earthly royal life - likely the maximum of luxury Muhammad's early followers were able to dream about. Yahweh's Paradise on the other hand is spiritual. One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

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###116 44/54a: “- - - and We (Allah*) shall join them to Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes.” Women as payment for "good deeds" like stealing, suppressing, torturing, killing. Some moral code and some view on women - slaves/things to use for gifts or payment. Not in the Bible. One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - their paradises are utterly different. If they had been the same god, their Paradise had been one and the same. See f.x. Luke 20/36, not to mention: "For the Kingdom of God/Yahweh is not a matter of eating and drinking (or sex*) - - -", (Rom.14/17). And also not to mention: "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Mark 12/25).

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037 52/19-20: (To them (Muslims in Paradise*) will be said) ’Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds.’ They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions (the famous houris*), with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.” What more can a poor, virile young – or old – uneducated and uncultivated and uncultured man from the desert dream about? Also see 10/9f and 52/17-24 above.

But it has no relationship to Yahweh's and Jesus' Paradise, where you become like the angels (f.x. Matt. 20/35-36) - a lot more tempting in the long run than Muhammad's Paradise a la a king's dreamt up life included a harem. Not the same Paradise = not the same god = also not the same religion.

Also see 44/54a.

##039 52/20b: “- - - and We (Allah*) shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.” The famous houris. Like 37/48 and 42/25 above – see them. The introduction of houris by Muhammad into Islam seems to come from old Persian pagan religion, where they were named paaris.

One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - their paradises are too different. And the fact that Jesus prohibited polygamy in any form - and also rape (sex where the woman/houri has no chaise) - is one of the really strong proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion, not to mention the same line of prophets.

##042 52/21c: "- - - to them (Muslims in Paradise*) shall we join their families - - -". According to Hadiths there are at least 4 or 6 gardens in Paradise - one better than the other. Plus there are the higher heavens for the really good Muslims (though some say that the entire Paradise - and Hell - is situated in the 6. Heaven, the same Heaven where the claimed original of the Kabah is situated). It would take quite a co-incidence that every member of the big and extended families of that time - and for that case partly today - to merit the same garden in Paradise. What then? We have never met any Muslim mentioning this problem, or being able to give a good explanation if we mention it. One thing is to reach Paradise. Another to reach the same garden in paradise. With 6 or more gardens, a family very easily can become very scattered.

And how to arrange everything after 30 or 60 or 100 generations? - quite a mêlée in that family?

One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - their Paradises are too different. If Yahweh and Allah had been the same god, their Paradise had been one and the same.

046 52/24: “Round about them (Muslims and their houris*) will serve (devoted) to them, youths (handsome) as pearls well guarded”. These are the servants in Paradise – forever young, handsome men. There is said nothing about from where they come, and as normal in the Quran it is said not a word about how secondary persons in a story feel or like life, or how Paradise is for them. The central persons - you the warrior and the ones similar to you - are in Paradise "rich" and on top, and that is what counts – others are of little interest. Empathy with underdogs (f.x. women, houris, servants, victims) does not exist in the Quran. Well, some to the poor Muslims (but do not give too much) and to orphans, but for that you find nothing. By the way: Also the idea of these handsome young men serving in Paradise, the Quran "borrowed" from Persia. Very little in the Quran is not "borrowed".

And there is another aspect to these handsome youths. The Quran frowns strongly at homosexuality, but all the same it at least some places is silently accepted. Are these youths a silent temptation - or more - in such a connection?. Did Muhammad want to attract also these warriors? - after all a warrior is a warrior.

Yet another proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god: One more serious difference between their paradise. There are no servants in Yahweh's Paradise. (There cannot be servants in a perfect paradise, because to be servants is not perfect for the servants, and a paradise which is not perfect for everyone living there, is not a perfect paradise. Similar can be said about houris, who have to be sex-dolls for even the most selfish, rough, and primitive warrior.)

076 55/52: "- - - Fruits of every kind - - -". The Quran's and Islam's paradise is like a poor and naive primitive desert dweller's dream about an emperor's luxury life and harem on Earth - - - yes, plus the god in the not too far distance. Very different from Yahweh's paradise, where you according to the Bible become like the angels (f.x. Matt. 22/30) - one of the solid proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, if the old books tell the truth.

078 55/54a: "They (good Muslims in Paradise*) recline on Carpets (also Paradise is Arabian style*), whose inner lining is rich brocade - - -". Earthly royal style - - - and very different from Yahweh's Paradise where you become like the angels (f.x. Luke 20/36), not to mention: "For the Kingdom of God/Yahweh is not a matter of eating and drinking (or sex*) - - -", (Rom.14/17). And also not to mention: "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Mark 12/25). Yahweh and Allah the same god? Guess 3 times.

081 55/56a: "In them (the gardens of Paradise*) will be (Maidens), restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before has touched". A nice Paradise for primitive men - women do not count much in the Quran - but totally different from Yahweh's Paradise - this verse alone proves such formidable differences to Yahweh (see f.x. Luke 20/36, not to mention: #### "For the Kingdom of God/Yahweh is not a matter of eating and drinking (or sex*) - - -", (Rom.14/17). And also not to mention: #### "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Mark 12/25)) that this alone proves Yahweh and Allah cannot be the same god - and then there are all the other differences in addition.

083 55/56c: "- - - (Maidens), chaste - - - whom no man or Jinn before them (the Muslims in Paradise*) has touched - - -". The houris are virgins at arrival, but hardly for a long time.

Compare this to f.x. Matt.22/30: #### "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven". 200+% sure that Yahweh and Allah do not run the same paradise, and thus are not the same god. And as these are the words of Jesus: As sure that Jesus and Muhammad do not belong in the same moral world or religion neither in this nor in a possible next life. A lot of things in this world are not true even if they are repeated often - f.x. that Jesus and Muhammad belong to the same line of prophets (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he had not the gift of prophesying).

003 65/1b: “O Prophet! When ye (also all other Muslims*) divorce women - - -". What Muslims never mention, is that Muhammad had at least 16 short-time wives (see the chapter about Muhammad and his women - at least 36 - in www.1000mistakes.com ). NT on the other hand does not really accept divorce (f.x. Matt. 5/32) - and polygamy not at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and a 100%+ for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or in the same line of anything religiously essential.

#####008 66/2a: "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases)- - -". According to other places in the Quran, the cases when you can break your oat without sinning, are:

  1. Oaths you have given without really meaning them.
  2. Oaths where you later see you will get a more satisfactory result if you break your oat. In serious cases, though, you should pay a "fine" - expiation - to Allah to be forgiven".

Can anyone please tell us what remains of trustworthiness of a Muslim's words and oaths - especially when you add to this the al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), the Kitman (the lawful half-truth), the Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), and permitted deceit and betrayals? - and his point of view that "war is deceit" (and everything is war). And not to forget the lawful disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, and here in 66/2). And much worse in this case: WHAT REMAINS OF MUHAMMAD'S TRUSTWORTHINESS - NOT TO MENTION THE QURAN'S TRUSTWORTHINESS - WHEN SUCH MEANS ARE OK WORKING TOOLS?

040 76/14-21: More about the same details of the Earth-like and top royal paradise, but with the addition of a stuff called “zanjabil” (76/17) to mix in wine (the age of this surah is not known, and consequently we do not know if Allah had yet changed his view of alcohol), and a fountain “salsabil” (76/18). The first word may mean ginger, the second one nobody knows, though there is guessing. Once more the unclear language of the Quran.

Also remember that the many and deep differences between Yahweh's Paradise and the one of Allah is one of the strong proofs for that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same one.

046 76/19b: "And around them (good Muslims in Paradise*) will (serve) youths - - -". This is one more case where the Quran differs totally from the Bible - there is not any likeness between the lives in the two paradises at all (f.x. Luke 20/34-36, not to mention: ########## "For the Kingdom of God/Yahweh is not a matter of eating and drinking (or sex*) - - -", (Rom.14/17). And also not to mention: ##### "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Mark 12/25)). Yahweh and Allah the same god with so different paradises? You bet! One of the at least - at least - 200% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. (Another question which lingers in the air: Homosexuality is officially condemned in Islam, but silently accepted at places - was this fact in the background when the description of these delicate young men was created?)

053 76/22b: "Verily this (a royal, Earth-like luxury, included a big harem*) is a Reward for you (Muslims*) - - -". If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth. (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

Also remember that the many and deep differences between Yahweh's Paradise and the one of Allah are one of the strong proofs for that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same one.

051 78/33: "Companions of Equal Age" - the famous houris. As mentioned, sex is not named in Paradise in the Quran, bur it all the same is a very essential part - - - for the men. In the entire Quran, in all the many Hadiths, in the entire Islamic literature, we have not seen one single word about how it feels for the houris to be sex toys for rough, uneducated, primitive warriors. And not one word about how it is for the wives to share their husbands with lots of likely much more beautiful women. Not one word.

Also you do not find the houris or sex in the Bible's and in Yahweh's paradise (the houris is an idea "borrowed" from the Persian religion, where they were named paaris). On the contrary: There you will be like the angels (Mark 12/25), and angels are not bent on sex - or nice clothes or excellent food and wine. One more of the at least 200% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

003 95/1-3: "By - - -". A sentence in the Quran starting with "by" normally is an oath - here it seems that the Quran swears that verse 4 is true. But whenever Muhammad or the Quran swears - or in other ways promises - remember that according to the rules for al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc., it is permitted to lie to defend and to forward Islam (and for 6 - 8 other wide topics, f.x. to cheat women), and that according to Muhammad's own words and deeds in the Quran, oaths should be broken if that will give a more satisfying result - pay expiation to Allah afterwards if necessary. (Some oaths are not binding at all, and others only if you confirm them afterwards, but if you break a confirmed oath you should pay expiation afterwards, at least if the oath is about something serious).

According to the Bible you should not swear at all, and if you all the same do so, you are absolutely bound by your oath. A new indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

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It also is pretty thought provoking that f.x. all the errors, contradictions, wrong facts, etc., only and alone, in the Quran, prove 100% that there is no god behind that book. And that f.x. the fact that Jesus accepted OT as correct, proves to both Christians and Muslims that the OT was not falsified at that time - and the Qumran scrolls prove that even OT was not falsified any time later, too.

It further is an insult to that possible god to "explain" that his texts means something different from what they really says = you are more clever than him at explaining what the god "really" meant, than the god is himself, even when he tries to explain things "clearly and easy to understand", and says his words are to be understood literally and without hidden meanings. Also only "the sick of heart" look for hidden meanings behind his words, according to the Quran - the very claimed hidden meanings the wise Muslims claim are what Allah really meant, but was unable to express clearly himself, so that they have to help the bumbling god and tell what he "really" tried to say. This in spite of that the Quran clearly states that meanings hidden behind Allah's clear and easy to understand words, only are possible for Allah to understand, and like said above are "only for the sick of heart" to look for.

May be as bad: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts clearly say, is to falsify the quranic texts.

 

YAHWEH IS N O T ALLAH, ALLAH IS N O T YAHWEH

Also see the previous chapter

At the time of Muhammad there was a rumor saying that al-Lah/Allah was the same god as the old Jewish and Christian god Yahweh. Muhammad quite likely knew this rumor. But it seems that the strongest reason why he claimed Yahweh and Allah had to be the same god - and that he thus f.x. could claim that the history of Allah was identical to the one of Yahweh - was that his god was the only god, and Yahweh according to the teaching about him was the only god. And as both were the only god, they had to be the same god.

Very easy and - like so often from Muhammad - invalid logic.

The reality is plain and simple:

  1. A. Yahweh and Allah as described in the respective holy books are by far too different and too fundamentally different to be the same god. The old books prove this more than 100% (the proofs mainly are circumstantial and empirical, but the accumulated sums of them add up to proofs of mathematical and absolute strength.)
  2. B. Their teachings/religions are so different and so deeply different, that also this proves they are not the same god. Also here the proofs mainly are circumstantial and empirical, but the accumulated sums of them also here add up to proofs of mathematical and absolute strength.
  3. C. Their moral and ethical codes are so different and so deeply different that also this proves they are not the same god. Once more the proofs mainly are circumstantial and empirical, but the accumulated sums of them also here add up to proofs of mathematical and absolute strength.
  4. D. Also their surroundings, etc. - f.x. their Paradises - are so different and so deeply different, that also this prove they are not the same god. Also here the proofs mainly are circumstantial and empirical, but the accumulated sums of them also here add up to proofs of mathematical and absolute strength.
  5. E. And there are the facts that if the old books - included the Quran - tell the truth, Yahweh and Jesus both have proved that they were parts of something supernatural, and thus that may be there is a god, Yahweh. The only thing proved about Allah and Muhammad, is that the Quran is not from any god (no god would be involved in a book that full of mistaken facts, other errors, lots of contradictions, lots of cases of invalid logic, explanations, etc. so helpless that Muslims have to explain what Allah "really" meant, etc.), and thus that it is extremely unlikely that he even exists - and if he all the same exists, it is extremely unlikely that he is correctly described among all the errors in the Quran (he f.x. may be from the dark forces - lots of points in the Quran and also in its moral code fit the dark forces better than they fit a good and benevolent god - or he may be a failed attempt from Muhammad to describe Yahweh, or for that case made up by Muhammad, perhaps aided by TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) or something).
  6. This said, we add that there also are some proofs which must be reckoned to be absolute ones - proofs of mathematical strength. This f.x. goes for some of the proofs for that the Bible is not falsified, and some of the ones proving that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and thus also that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion.

There is one possible possibility, though: If the god is strongly schizophrenic, Muhammad's claim may be possible. But at least Yahweh does not sound schizophrenic.

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok) ), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable is that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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629 2/139b: "- - - seeing that He (Allah*) is our (Muslim's*) Lord and your (non-Muslim's*) Lord - - -". At least for Jews and Christians this is impossible to see, as Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - by far too different. Also see 29/46ec below.

1158 2/230e: "Such are the limits ordained by Allah - - -". If Allah had ordained limits, those limits at least should have been given also in the Bible, if Allah had been the same god as Yahweh - and remember here that both science and Islam have proved that the Bible is not falsified, so that falsification cannot be the explanation why it is not in the Bible. (Besides: It is Muslims who claim the Bible is falsified, and thus Muslims' job to prove their claim - which they have never done.)

1230 2/246e: "- - - fight in the cause of Allah". Not in the Bible, as not even "- - - in the cause of Yahweh" is found there, yes, nowhere except in figurative meaning. There is no demand for physical fighting for the god or the religion - religious wars do not exist in the Bible. Incompatible with especially NT. Not the same religion. Not the same god.

1296 2/255a: "There is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". (Also see 6/106b and 25/18a below). But:

  1. Both according to the Quran and to the Bible the old Jewish god (Yahweh) existed.
  2. Both according to the Quran and to the Bible the old Jewish and Christian god Yahweh has proved his existence and his power many times, included via Jesus and others - there (according to both books if one or both of them tells the truth on this point) is no doubt about his existence and his power.
  3. The Quran claims - without any proof (like totally normal for Muhammad) - that Allah and Yahweh are the same god. But this is not true, as the teachings fundamentally are far too different, especially if you compare the Quran to NT and the New Covenant via Jesus - a covenant Muslims never are told about by their imams or mullahs (f.x. Luke 22/20). The same goes for the underlying ethics and moral (parts of it is very twisted in the Quran compared to the most basic rule;"do onto others what you want others do onto you") and the stressing of the value of empathy (empathy hardly is to be found in the Quran, and non-existing towards victims and non-Muslims), etc., not to mention that this also goes for the view on thieving (looting), lying (f.x. al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie), killing, etc. The only possible exception is if the god is strongly schizophrenic. (See separate chapter about this in tp://www.1000mistakes.com (planned completed in the final edition in 2014 or at latest in 2015 and copied in this book). Demand proofs from the next Muslim telling you that Yahweh is the same god as Allah.
  4. The Quran tries to explain away the differences between the Bible and the Quran, and thus the differences in the teachings, by claiming - once more like normal for Muhammad without a single document or proof - that the Bible is falsified. But this is not true, as science long since has proved there is no falsification. May be some mistakes - f.x. in Genesis - but no falsification. What is even more convincing, is the fact that also Islam has proved the same, and most strongly, by not being able to find one single documented falsification among all the tens of thousands relevant old manuscripts. There exist some 300 copies or fragments of the Gospels older than 610 AD, 12ooo other manuscripts or fragments from other parts of the Bible and 32ooo other documents/fragments with quotes or references from the Bible from before 610 AD (before that there was no reason to falsify anything to expel Islamic teaching) - parts of this also older than 325 AD and council that year in Nicaea. (The numbers can vary some from one source to another, but around these ones.) All have exactly the same and invariable texts within minor variations normal for hand-copied documents, and not one shows any traces of being tampered with - falsified - in ways that modern science can find. And modern science is good at finding falsifications, as it a frequent kind of crime. No scratching out of text, no other tries of removing old text, no putting in new words, no new words written with another kind of ink, no new words with another handwriting, etc. Islam also never even has tried to explain how it could be possible to make identical falsifications in 40-45ooo and more different manuscripts spread over the whole known world and wider - and how it was possible for Jews and Christians and sects to agree on identical falsifications. Muslims often claim the falsifications were done at the mentioned meeting of bishops in Nicaea in 325 AD. But for one thing the agenda for that meeting is well known, and nothing like this was on that agenda. For another ting a lot of manuscripts are older than 325 AD exist - not one of them falsified. And for a third: It is exactly as difficult to get bishops change the Bible, as it is to make ayatollahs change the Quran. (Muslims also claim that the OT was falsified when it "had to be rewritten" by Ezra when the Jews returned from Babylon. But for one thing not all Jews were deported to Babylon (f.x. 2. Kings 25/12), and you bet the ones who remained took care of their holy scriptures - religion is a comfort in difficult times. And for another thing also the Jews in exile had managed to keep some copies of the scriptures (f.x. Ezra "was a teacher well versed in the Laws of Moses" = the Books of Moses (Ezra 7/6) - which meant they had the books). And for a third: Jews lived in many countries also at that time, and in each and every synagogue, there always was and is at least one copy of the scriptures - in addition to what was owned by members of the congregations. The OT simply never was rewritten - there never was a reason for that.) There simply never were any falsifications of any part of the Bible - as proved by science. But it is as said even better proved by Islam: If there had existed one single falsification, Islam had found it and screamed about it. Nobody has ever heard such a scream.
  5. As Yahweh clearly existed if the old books tell the truth, and as clearly was/is not the same god as Allah, and as Islam's "explanation" ("falsification of the Bible") is wrong, Islam here has a problem when claiming there only is one god. Even if we omit all other (claimed) gods, there still remains Yahweh, whose existence they have admitted.
  6. This problem grows even more interesting when one remember that Yahweh has proved his existence and power many times, if either the Bible or the Quran or both tell the truth on this point, whereas Allah has proved exactly nothing - there only are words and claims from a man with a very doubtful moral (even according to Muslim books, included the Quran - take away the glorious words and see what remains) behind the claims for Allah's existence and power.
  7. And: If there then exists one, but only one god - who is most likely to exist? - Yahweh or Allah?

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Some Muslims as mentioned claim Ezra falsified OT, but in addition to other facts:

THERE IS ONE STRONG FACT CONNECTED TO JESUS AND THE OTHER OLD JEWISH PROPHETS: ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THEY ALL WERE GOD MUSLIMS - AN IMPOSSIBILITY IF THEIR CLAIMED HOLY BOOKS FROM ALLAH WERE FALSIFIED. THUS THE CLAIMED FALSIFICATION OF ALSO OT CANNOT HAVE HAPPENED UNTIL AFTER JESUS (F.X. EZRA COULD NOT HAVE FALSIFIED OT, LIKE SOME MUSLIMS CLAIM - IF HE HAD, JESUS HAD RECEIVED WRONG INFORMATION AND HAD BEEN NO GOOD MUSLIM). THIS IN ADDITION TO THAT THE BOOKS WERE SENT DOWN (DIRECTLY) FROM ALLAH TO THE PROPHETS, ACCORDING TO THE QURAN, AND ERRORS IN THEM THEREFORE SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. ALL THE OLD GOOD MUSLIM PROPHETS INCLUDED JESUS THUS MUST HAVE HAD CORRECT HOLY BOOKS - THE OLD JEWISH SCRIPTURES/OT. IF NOT F.X. JESUS HAD BEEN TEACHING WRONG THINGS, WHICH HE DID NOT DO ACCORDING TO THE QURAN (and if the scrolls he read from in the synagogues had differed from what he received from Heaven, he had told about it - if not he was a bad Muslim).. THE ONLY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION HERE IS THAT ALSO NO PART OF THE OLD SCRIPTURES - OT - CAN HAVE BEEN FALSIFIED UNTIL AFTER JESUS TIME = AFTER THE YEAR 33 AD.

BUT THERE EXIST PLENTY OF MANUSCRIPTS AND FRAGMENTS OLD ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT OT WAS NOT SIMILAR TO THE QURAN AT THAT TIME!!! IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE OT OF TODAY!!! (Cfr. f.x. the Qumran scrolls.)

In addition there is the problem: How in case make Jews and Christians and sects agree on what to falsify and what new texts to use when they falsified (parts of) the Quran into OT??? And how to make ALL Jews spread over large parts of the world unprotestingly accept the new and falsified holy scriptures - and destroy all the old copies so thoroughly that not one piece of any of them has been found later? This in addition to the claimed falsification of NT and all the impossibilities and improbabilities which have to be "explained" away concerning the claimed falsification of NT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE CLAIMS MUHAMMAD MADE UP.

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003 3/2a: "There is no god but He (Allah*)". Well, what is for sure is that Allah is not the same god as Yahweh (if any of them exists) - the teachings are fundamentally too different. (The only possibility is if the god is strongly schizophrenic.) Also see 2/225a above and 6/106b and 25/18a below. Another thing which is for sure, is that the existence of Allah was and is never proved. And a third: The only basis for the claims about Allah, is the word of a man who would be accepted by no court in any real democracy as a reliable witness, as he believed in the use of lies (al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie, Kitman - the lawful half-truth, etc.), deception and even the breaking of words and oaths, but pay expiation if necessary (2/225a above, 5/89a+b, 16/91e, 66/2a below). (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

Both the Bible and the Quran states that the old Jewish and Christian god existed, even though the Quran wrongly mixes him up with Allah (the question of other gods - f.x. the Hindu ones - we omit here). Thus there are at least two - - - if Allah exists.

####285 3/54b: ”- - - and Allah too plotted and planned, and the best of planners is Allah.” This verse in addition is one of the verses the Muslim phenomena al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and Hilah (the lawful pretending or circumventing - "the dishonesty in disguise") are based on – when Allah can “plot and plan” (indicating using dishonest means), of course his followers can do the same, as long as it is not forbidden – which it is not. Also see 2/26h, 2/224e-f, 2/225a, 4/142a, 8/30, 10/21b, 13/42, 27/50, and 86/16 - dishonesty as a policy is one of the fundamental rules in the Quran's moral - or immoral - code. Al-Taqiyya, Kitman, and Hilah are permitted in 8 - 10 wide cases, and advised "if necessary" in 2: To defend and to promote Islam. Worth remembering for Muslims and non-Muslims alike; what is true and what is not true in Muslims' arguments about such things? And how much is true in a religion partly relying on dishonesty? - - - and what then about its claimed prophet, Muhammad? - how much of his words are Kitmans or al-Taqiyyas or deceit, etc.? (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

Just for the record: Al-Taqiyya, Kitman, and Hilah can be used at least in these cases (for broken oaths there are given no real limitations if the broken oath will give a better result. By implication this also goes for ordinary words and promises, as an oath is something stronger than a normal promise or word. Also for deceit there are given no real limits. Muhammad said according to f.x. ibn Ishaq, "The life of Muhammad", that "war is deceit" - and according to many Muslims "anything" is war (according to Islam also everything outside Islamic lands are "area of war"):

  1. To save your or others' health or life.
  2. To get out of a tight spot or a dangerous problem.
  3. To make peace in a family.
  4. When it will give a better result than honesty or honoring one’s oath.
  5. To cheat women (should be remembered by girls with Muslim boyfriends wanting sex - or wanting a marriage to get residence permit in a rich country.)
  6. To deceive opponents/enemies.
  7. To betray enemies.
  8. To secure one’s money (very clear from Hadiths).
  9. To defend Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)
  10. To promote Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)

But al-Taqiyya, etc. is a double-edged sword: In the short run you may cheat and deceive some ones – actually also in the long run if the opposite part does not know about this side of Muslims and of Islam, or if he/she is naïve or wants to believe.

But in the long run the surroundings learn that it is impossible quite to trust a Muslim in serious questions: When is he speaking the honest truth, and when is he using an al-Taqiyya or some other kind of "lawful" dishonesty? - lawful at least according to the Quran and to the Sharia laws.

DO YOU WONDER WHY ISLAM AND ITS MUSLIMS SO SELDOM USE THE CLAIM "ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF HONESTY"?

##403 3/76f: "- - - Allah loveth - - -". A word seldom used in the Quran, and impossible unless Allah exists. The difference in the use of this word in especially NT compared to the Quran, is a strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, Christianity and Islam never was the same religion, and for that Jesus and Muhammad never belonged to the same religion.

NT = The Religion of Love. The surahs from Medina - the central ones in Quran according to Islam's rules for abrogation (making texts invalid) as they are the youngest = a religion of apartheid, suppression, dishonesty, and war.

750 3/142c: "- - - (fight*) (in His (Allah's*) Cause - - -". As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god, it is a very open question the raids and wars were and are in Allah's cause. But very sure that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - Yahweh never asked for a religious war.

758 3/145a: “Nor can a soul die except by Allah’s leave - - -". Predestination. One of the many, many never documented claims in the Quran. Muhammad never was able to prove anything at all about his claimed god or his own claimed connection to him. Also: You do not find general predestination in the Bible = a different religion - a different god.

768 3/146c: “And Allah loves those who are firm and steadfast (in battle*)”. Another mighty incitement to primitive warriors – and terrorists - with strong belief.

But Mr. Bush and others should have remembered this about being steadfast.

And it indicates that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and proves that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion.

775 3/148a: “And Allah gave them (the warriors) a reward in this world (and will consequently give it to you if you fight bravely*) and the excellent reward of the Hereafter”. 80% of the spoils of war - included slaves and captive girls and women - were for the warriors and their leaders (the remaining 20% - 100% if the victims gave in without fighting, were for Allah/Muhammad/the religious leaders - who soon also became political leaders). Girl children and women made slaves were fun, because to rape female slaves was your right and no sin if they were not pregnant (likely one reason why Muslim warriors during conflicts so often rape even today). In addition: To do battle for Islam was - and is - a “heavy” application for Paradise, and a sure way to get there no matter what kind of life you have led, if you are killed in battle for Islam (which soon also meant - and means - an easy way for the leaders to recruit warriors). But it is a strange fact that leaders never become suicide bombers. (The Quran tells that suicide is a sin deserving Hell (is this told - or "explained" away to the suicide bombers?) + perhaps the leaders do not like to die yet?)

778 3/148d: “For Allah loveth those who do good (in this case: To wage war for Allah and Muhammad*)”. To do battle for Allah - to steal and burn and kill and murder and destroy and rape for the good and benevolent deity - is a good thing which Allah loves. (Actually that it shall be made in the name of the god, makes it even more disgusting.) Did anyone say that modern terrorists have to twist the words of the Quran to find incitements to their deeds? And also: Muhammad got cheap warriors and gained wealth and power - in wars and robberies that really were illegal according to the Quran, as they in reality were wars of aggression, not really of defense. And they gave him the possibility to rape at least two women - Rayhana bint Amr and Safijja bint Huayay. (And of course: When it was ok for Muhammad to rape captive women, it was and is morally ok for all other Muslims to do the same - Muhammad was and is the high idol for morality in Islam.)

To say that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, is to use small letters.

796 3/152b: “Allah did indeed fulfill His promise to you when ye with His permission were about to annihilate your enemy - - -". Very far from the moral code of NT - you find nothing similar in all the NT. Yahweh and Allah the same god?. Hardly.

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####817 3/154e: “Even if you had remained in your homes, those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death (anyhow*).” This is the "manifest" of predestination. And: This also is one of the points in the Quran where Muhammad knew he was lying. It is so obviously wrong, that an intelligent man like him knew this was not true. But he was a clever manipulator (“is it not more worth that I live among you, and spend the booty on the people not sure in their belief to make them stay in Islam?” f.x.) and he understood people. Lies like this worked because his followers were primitive, uneducated, and in addition wanted to believe. And for primitive, uneducated souls really believing mish-mash like this (it is easy to prove by statistics that it is untrue, if one are un-intelligent enough not to see at once that it is a lie) it was a mighty incitement – fighting in battles was not dangerous, because Allah had decided when you were to die, and at that time you would die whether you were in a battle or sleeping in your bed. It is worth noticing that even today this is the official point of view of Islam. To quote footnote 3/119 to this surah in “The Message of the Quran” (translated from the Swedish 2006 edition - not found in the English 2008 edition):

“(The) incorrect, heathen belief that humans by acting in special ways can avoid death (even for a time*)”.

Unbelievable!!

Today it like said is easy to prove by statistics that it is very wrong - but Muhammad did not know about statistics (and a god had not even needed statistics to know it was stupidity). On the other hand this claim is so contra all logic, that this like said is one of the points where Muhammad knew he was lying - he was too intelligent to believe in this. Actually Islam today back-pedals very much concerning predestination, telling f.x. that the Quran does not mean real predestination (but not explaining what they claim it means). But in some cases the book is so clear, that it is impossible to explain predestination - and full predestination - away, f.x. many places connected to statements that when your time is out, you will die anyhow, and therefore you can as well go to war.

Also see 3/154g just below.

####Besides: Is it ironic to see a religion built on a book so full of errors, contradictions, wrong facts, etc., that it is clear there is no god behind it, naming others heathens?

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####819 3/154g: “Even if you had remained in your homes, those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death (anyhow*).” Predestination is not a part of the Bible (and not of reality - easy to prove by means of statistics today). Yahweh may decide some things, and see to it that it happens, but predestination as an essential part of the religion, no.

That it is a fundamental point in the Quran, but none-existing in the Bible, is one more indisputable proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - the teachings are too different.

889 3/167d: "- - - fight in the way of Allah - - -". Verses like this - and there are many of them in the Quran - are more or less the antithesis to NT. Yahweh and Allah the same god? You only need two letters for the answer "no".

927 3/174c: "- - - they (Muslims at war*) followed the good pleasure of Allah - - -". That his followers wage war, is the good pleasure of Allah. "The religion of peace"? - a god of peace? If you are sufficient naive or indoctrinated, you may be able to believe this.

##325 4/71c: “O ye who believe! Take your precautions, and either go forth (in war*) in parties or go forth all together”. You find nothing like this in NT (and like in the Quran the newer parts normally supersedes the older ones - NT in some ways supersedes OT). One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, not to mention Jesus not in the same religion as Muhammad - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

*328 4/74a: “Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter”. If you are willing to exchange your life here on Earth for a future life in Paradise, you should be permitted to - and qualified to - wage war for Allah. (Only let us hope you are not cheated. If something is wrong in the Quran - and at least a huge number of facts and much of the logic are wrong, etc. - you may be in for quite a surprise if there is a next life. Not to mention what a rude awakening you will have if Islam is a dreamed-up religion, and there is another religion which is true. But in the meantime Muslim leaders have a cheap source for power, warriors and terrorists).

One more of the many points which alone prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, not to mention Jesus not in the same religion as Muhammad - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

331 4/74d: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give him a reward of great (value) (= Paradise*)”. What can be a better reward - - - if it is true? And what can be a cheaper way for leaders to get warriors, than promises of payment in the next life? - especially if the religion is made up (and remember that this is likely, as the Quran with all its mistakes is from no god) and the Quran's paradise thus does not exist.

But if Yahweh and Jesus rule the perhaps next life, Muslims will not find that the gate to Heaven opens automatically. Those two are very different from Allah and Muhammad - - - if any of the 4 exists.

332 4/74e: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give him a reward of great (value) (= Paradise*)". Guess if this is a contradiction to NT!!! Yahweh and Allah the same god? You NEVER find things like this in NT - NEVER - and not even in OT (there they fought for (establishing and later defend) their country, not for religion). One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

335 4/75b: “And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah - - -?" Another strong contradiction to NT - there are legion reasons in NT for avoiding war and fighting. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Only if he is strongly schizophrenic. One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

###339 4/76b: “Those who believe (Muslims*) fight in the cause of Allah - - -". This is about as far from NT as you can come. Allah and Yahweh the same god? One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

*350 4/77c: “Our Lord! Why hast Thou ordered us to fight?” Jesus never ordered anyone to fight, except for by intellectual means - never. On the contrary he was extremely pacifistic. One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

##371 4/80b: "He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad*), obeys Allah - - -". If Muslims insists on that Yahweh = Allah, this is one more very strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. The ones obeying Muhammad, definitely and all too often did not obey Yahweh's laws and moral codes. Definitely!

###391 4/84c: “Then fight in Allah’s cause - - -.” This one is strongly contradicted both by OT (where one fought first to establish a country and later to defend it, and definitely not for the god), and even far more - 180 degrees opposite - by NT (which does not accept physical fighting at all - "turn the other cheek"). One of the many points in the Quran which singlehanded proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion - and then there are all the other proofs.

#467 4/95i: “Unto all (in Faith (= all Muslims*)) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by special reward -". Strongly contradicted by especially in NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion - and one of those many proofs which each alone proves this. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

471 4/95+96b: “- - - those who strive hath Allah distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward – Ranks specially bestowed by Him (Allah*), and Forgiveness (for anything if you are killed in battle*) and Mercy.” The total and 180 degree difference from NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, not to mention Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion - and one of those many proofs which each alone proves this.

But remember as for punishment and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

544 4/115g: "- - - We (Allah*) shall leave him in the (claimed wrong*) path he has chosen - - -". Very different from "search the lost sheep" in NT - contradicting the basic idea of NT on this point. Impossibly the same religion. And Jesus and Muhammad impossibly can be in the same line of prophets when they express so fundamentally different teachings.

545 4/115h: “We (Allah*) shall leave him (the one on a track not to Islam's Paradise) in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell”. It is mathematically sure it is not the same god as in NT - cfr. "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), "the 11. hour" (Matt.20/8-13). (NB: This is one of the places where the translation differs a little in the last edition).

737 4/155c: "- - - Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy - - -." Compare this to "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10),"the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), and "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8-13)in NT: Two very different gods.

815 4/168-169: "- - - Allah will not - - - guide them (non-Muslims*) to any way - Except the way to Hell - - -". Compare this to f.x. "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep", "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), or "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8/13) in NT. Definitely not the same god.

017 5/2f: "- - - Sacred Months - - -". One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - the months are sacred for Allah, but to Yahweh not interesting enough to even mention.

#021 5/2j: "- - - Sacred House - - -". The mosque Kabah in Mecca is one of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. There is not one chance for that a god had not mentioned his most sacred place and the duties and benefits connected to it, to his strongly believing followers relatively nearby - f.x. Abraham and Moses or a powerful king like David, who even could have tried to conquer the area to get it into his country.

053 5/5l: "- - - dower - - -". There is no demand for dower in the NT - one more contradiction to the Bible. And as dower is a must to Allah, but of no interest to Yahweh, this is another difference so essential that it indicates Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

##092 5/12e: "I (Allah*) am with you (the Jews*): if ye (but) establish regular Prayers - - -". There is no demand, request or even mentioning of a fixed number of prayers or fixed times for prayers in the Bible. As this is so essential to Allah that it is one of the 5 pillars of Islam, but of no interest at all for Yahweh - pray when there is a reason or when you feel for it - the 5 fixed prayers of the Quran is one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

095 5/12h: “- - - and loan to Allah a beautiful loan - - -.” This normally is “Quran-speak” for “risk or lose your life in battle for Muhammad and Allah”. You never find anything similar in the Bible. One more clear indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad definitely not in the same religion.

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######228 5/35g: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b*) in His (Allah’s*) cause - - -”. For us this is one of the most detestable points in the entire Quran and Islam: Fight and steal and rob and mutilate and rape and enslave and hate and murder and get rich and suppress in the name of your god, and as a service to your god - a claimed good and benevolent god!

The same god as Yahweh? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? Don't ask silly questions.

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249 5/40f: "He (Allah*) forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and punish whom He pleaseth - - -". Whereas the Christian god according to the Bible forgives anyone who honestly regrets and tries to make amends, and punishes only those who deserve it. The same god? Forget it.

262 5/41k: "(For non-Muslims or hypocrites*) it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts". Compare with f.x. "the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14). One more strong indication, not to say proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

347 5/54d: "- - - a people He (Allah*) will love as they will love Him - lowly with the believers, mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the Way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproaches of such as find fault". A mighty pep-talk for warfare. But the same god as you meet in NT and even in OT? - hopeless. One of the 120%+ proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion (not to mention line of prophets)

And: Allah can love no-one unless he exists - and with little consequence unless he in addition is a god. Besides - how lovely is the love of a god of war, dishonesty in words and deeds (stealing/looting, al-Taqiyya, etc.), apartheid, and suppression? - or the love from one of the dark forces?

349 5/54f: “- - - fighting in the way of Allah - - -”. You find nothing like this in the Bible. In the OT the Jews were fighting not for the god, but to establish and later defend their country. In NT physical war hardly is accepted at all. One of the many solid proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. And then there are all the other proofs, indicia and indications in addition.

016 6/2d: “- - - and then (Allah*) decreed a stated term (for you).” Predestination once more. From other places (Hadiths) we know that your “stated term” (= how long you are to live) is decided by Allah when the fetus is 4 months old = 5 months before you are born. Which means you can as well go to war for Muhammad and perhaps become rich by looting, because you will die at a predestined day no matter. A related claim: At the same time as Allah decided your time of death, he also according to Hadiths decided whether you were to end in Paradise of Hell, and there is nothing you can do to change that diction. Any comments about f.x. a benevolent god or free will for man?

Nothing of this is from the Bible.

Allah had/has full predestination according to several verses in the Quran - Yahweh far from so according to the Bible. One more of the total proofs for that the two are not the same god.

484 6/107b: "- - - Allah's Plan - - -". This is the reason for and the origin of all predestination: Allah's Plan which nobody and nothing can change even a nanometer. There is no such plan mentioned in the Bible. Another proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

344 7/101e: "Thus doth Allah seal up the hearts of those who reject Faith (Islam*)". One more 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. Read f.x. Luke 15/8-10 and 15/11-31 plus Matt. 18/12-14 and 20/8-13 and get a good laugh - or weep - over the claim that Yahweh = Allah.

508 7/155f: "- - - Thou (claimed to be Allah*) causeth whom Thou wilt to stray - - -". Once more this 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god, and especially not compared to NY and the new covenant (Luke 21/20). Yahweh causes no-one to stray (Luke 15/8-1o and 15/11-31 plus Matt. 18/12-14 and 20/8-13).

509 7/155g: "- - - and Thou (claimed to be Allah*) leadest whom Thou wilt into the right path (to Paradise*)". Another 100% - or 110% - proof for the difference mentioned in 7/155f just above. Allah leads whom he will, Yahweh leads anyone who really wants and lives accordingly.

648 7/186g: "He (Allah*) will leave them (the lost ones*) in their trespasses, wandering in distraction". Compare this to Yahweh's search for "the lost sheep" (f.x. Luke 15/3-7). Yahweh and Allah the same god? - you bet!

005 8/1d: “(The spoils of war*) “are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” All that was stolen/looted and robbed in raids and war, included slaves and prisoners for extorting money (this early – 624 AD – it mainly was raids to steal/rob/extort) belonged to Allah – represented by his envoy on earth: Muhammad. But his officers and warriors were too greedy to accept this – they wanted a share of the riches, too. So a bit later in the surah – a few “revelations” later (?) there came a contra order – and abrogation:

    ###8/41: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (= Muhammad here on Earth*) - - -.” Muhammad had to give the warriors their share – except that he saved everything for himself in the cases where the victims gave in without fighting – then the warriors had done nothing and could not demand a share. Muhammad needed riches. Though it is likely it is true he was not much interested in personal luxury, he needed riches for bribes/"gifts" and for waging war to get more power and more riches, included slaves – war cost money even if he paid his warriors with religion and religious promises, then all the same food and equipment cost money – and he needed riches for “gift” to attract more warriors/followers/believers and to keep some of the lukewarm-warm ones - - - and some for social use (help to the poor). Muslims try to explain away this contradiction and abrogation by saying that it all belongs to Allah/the leader, but 80% is given to the warriors/robbers. But the moment it becomes a right for the robbers in raids and warriors in war, the rank and file’s share no longer belongs to the leader.

    Are Yahweh and Allah the same god? Or Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? The rules of war - and of spoils of war - are strong mathematical strength proofs to the fifth power for that none of those two never documented claims are true.

    058 8/13a: "This (kill them*) because they contended against Allah and His Messenger - - -". How much Allah and how much Muhammad?

    Also one more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion - there never in the entire Bible is an incitement to war for the god (there were wars in OT, but defense or - mainly - to establish and later defend a national country for the Jews, never waging war for Yahweh, not to mention for Jesus or any other prophet).

    075a 8/16aa: “If any (Muslim warrior*) do turn his back to the (the enemy*) on such a day (during battle) - - - he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell - - - “. Incompatible with NT. In reality also with OT as in OT the fighting was for securing a national territory, not to fight "holy" wars. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets - if Muhammad had been a real prophet? Answers not necessary.

    081a 8/17ba: (The fights are acts of Allah) "in order that He might test the Believers - - -". Incompatible with especially NT. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad - if he had been a real prophet - in the same line of prophets? We do not bother to give the answers.

    Besides: Why does an omniscient and predestining god need to test anyone, and what can he learn from it if he knows everything already? The logic in this frequently repeated claim is hopeless.

    ###181a 8/39aa: “And fight with them (the Unbelievers who will not convert to Islam*) on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere”. Religious war is incompatible with the Bible, not to mention the NT. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - too big differences on too many and too fundamental points.

    #####190 8/41a: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” These 20% - 100% in some cases - in reality were for Muhammad to use. Did he "demand no payment for what he did" like he claims some places in the Quran? This in addition to total power and plenty of women.

    And this is totally foreign to Yahweh and Jesus - one more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion: Too different moral codes, etc.

    192 8/41c: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) (all if the victims gave in without a fight*) - - -.” Try to find something like this in the Bible, not to mention in the NT! Yahweh and Allah the same god? An imbecile question. (The only time Yahweh asked for part of a booty - and then for his priest and the Levites (4. Mos. 31/28-29) - he asked for 1/500 of half and 1/50 of the other half).

    #269 8/60a: “Against them (the unbelievers*) make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, included steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies (and Muhammad’s enemies*) - - -.” Inside information from “the Religion of Peace”.

    We may add the modern Muslim point of view (YA1226): "It is your duty to be ready against all, for the sacred Cause under whose banner you are fighting". (YA1227): Be always ready to put your resources (wealth and life*) into your Cause. You will not do so in vain. Allah's reward will come in various forms. He knows all, and His reward will always be more generous than you can possibly deserve". (YA1228) "It (fighting for Islam*) should be a joyful duty not for itself, but to establish the reign of peace and righteousness (remember here that words like this is used in accordance with the Quran's partly immoral moral code*) and Allah's Law". There is more like this. Also today Islam really is "the Religion of Peace" - at least according to claims.

    The Quran at many points, included ones like this, is the antipode of especially NT. War for god and religion is another strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion. (Oh, also Christians have been involved in religious wars, but in spite of the Bible's message, not because of it.)

    ##325 8/72d: “Those who believed - - - and fought for the Faith, with their property (= gave money - like many Muslims do even today*) and their persons (= went to war personally*), in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave them (warriors, terrorists*) asylum and aid (like what a large numbers of Muslims do today also - at least giving money and sympathy and aid to “the cause” included terrorism*) - all these (are good Muslims*)”. Comments unnecessary. Except: One more strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

    ##089 9/14e: “Fight them (the “unbelievers”*), and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them - - -”. When you fight non-Muslims, you are doing the work of the good and benevolent god Allah. But why did Allah need help?

    Some religion: Hating, fighting, stealing, plundering, raping, enslavement, and murdering are the work of the god. It also must be his joy - if not an omnipotent god could fix everything himself, and without terror, dishonesty, and blood. (It is an enigma for us why Muslims do not see this themselves, and ask questions about it.)

    And remember: The “ethics” and "morality" in the Quran was for then, for now, and forever - for us and for our children and our descendants for all future.

    “What a wonderful world!” to quote Louis Armstrong.

    But why does an omnipotent god need humans for doing the killing and suppression? And why do Muslims not ask questions about this?!

    ###War mongering for religion is one more strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion. (There is some war in OT, but not for religion.)

    ###097 9/16c: “Or think that ye (Muslims*) that ye shall be abandoned (by Allah and not be rewarded for going to war*), as though Allah did not know those among you who strive with might and main (for the religion*)- - -.” Compare this to the Bible. Even in the at places harsh OT, the wars were not for the religion, but to establish and later defend a national country for the Jews. And to compare it to NT and the teaching of Jesus simply has no meaning - the distance is too huge between Jesus and his teaching of love and peace, and Muhammad’s religion of distaste, suppression, hate, and war - if you cultivate distaste, distance between "us" and "the bad ones", hate, etc., it is easier to make your followers or underlings go to war. Muhammad invested much time and effort in such cultivation.

    127 9/19g: "- - - strive with might and mind in the cause of Allah - - -". Guess if this conflicts with the Bible! Even in the rather hard and harsh OT the wars were not for Yahweh, but for establishing and then defending a national state for the Jews, not for the religion. And in NT war is hardly an accepted thing at all. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Nope. Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion, not to mention in the same line of prophets? - more than nope.

    ##128 9/19h: “They (Muslims doing good deeds*) are not comparable in the sight of Allah (with the ones killing/waging raids/war for Muhammad/Allah*)”. Terrorists and others using weapons and murdering for Allah, are the best Muslims.

    Guess if verses like these do their work on some single-minded or fanatic Muslims. Who said “there are verses in the Quran that can be disused for war and terror”? Wrong: It hardly is possible to be a really pious Muslim without using weapons against non-Muslims.

    ###Yet another 120% proof for that Yahweh an Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion: The differences are too many, too deep, and too fundamental (except perhaps if the god is deeply schizophrenic and sadistic).

    ###137 9/20c: “Those who believe, and suffer exile and strive with their might and main (= fight in raids/war*), in Allah’s cause, with their goods (= giving money to war expenses*) and their persons (= fighting personally in raids/war or terrorism - “any stratagem of war”*), have the highest rank in the sight of Allah - - -”. It is hardly worth the bother to tell that you find nothing like this in the Bible, not to mention in NT. Yahweh the same god as Allah? Jesus in the same line of prophets as Muhammad? Anyone able to believe such claims either need much more knowledge or a psychiatrist. An at least 200% proof.

    ###140 9/20f: "(Warriors/terrorists*) have the highest rank in the sight of Allah". Strongly contradicted by and incompatible to the Bible, and especially NT, which says that to be the greatest, you have to be the servant of the others, and be among the last ones, etc. (f.x. Mark 9/35). This is one of the many strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad does not belong to the same line of prophets - the teachings are too fundamentally, too deep, and on too many points too different. Simply one more fundamental point where the Quran is wrong. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

    *145 9/21b: “Their (terrorists/warriors*) Lord (Allah*) doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy (that terrorists/warriors for Allah are forgiven practically any sin*) from Himself (from Allah personally*), of His good pleasure (from the fighting and murdering they have done for the good and kind and benevolent god + the stealing and slave taking for Muhammad*), and the Gardens for them, wherein are delights (earth-like riches, luxury, and women*) that endures”. One more at least 110% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that the Jewish prophets, not to mention Jesus, were not in the same line of prophets as Muhammad claimed to be - not even in the same religion. See 9/20h above.

    As for forgiving from Allah: Also see 2/187d and 67/9c above.

    150 9/21g: "- - - wherein (in Paradise*) are delights that endure". The delights in the Muslims' paradise are good food and drinks, excellent clothes, an excellent place to live, good weather and cool shades plus plenty of women for the men. More or less a poor, uneducated and naive warrior's dream of the life of a king or something here on Earth - an Earth-like and exceedingly boring paradise in long eternities. Is this the best an omniscient, omnipotent god has to offer? (And he has even less to offer women.)

    Also note how different the Bible's paradise is from Muhammad's: In the Quran royal, Earth-like luxury + lots of sex/women, in the Bible (f.x. Luke 20/35-36, not to mention: "For the Kingdom of God/Yahweh is not a matter of eating and drinking (or sex*) - - -", (Rom.14/17). And also not to mention: "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Mark 12/25)) there is no sex or Earthlike luxury, but "they will become like angels". The same god behind two so incompatible paradises? Wrong. The fundamental and enormous differences between the Quran's and Muhammad's Earth-like royal luxury and sex in Allah's Paradise for primitive warriors, and Yahweh's ethereal and spiritual Paradise, are one of the absolute proofs for that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same one.

    164 9/24e: "- - - or the striving in His (Allah's*) cause ("Quran-speak" for waging war*) - - -". Going to war for Muhammad/Allah gives top marks in the claimed "religion of peace". Guess if this is contradicted by the NT - one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion! Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

    ##198 9/29b: "Fight those who do not believe - - -". An extreme contradiction to the Bible - incompatible to even the hardest parts of even OT. Religion never was the reason for war in OT - it was fight for land or safety - and in NT armed fighting hardly is accepted at all. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets? Impossible is the only possible answer to both. One of the strong proofs.

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    ###199 9/29c: “Fight those who believe not in Allah - - - until they pay jizya (extra tax - sometimes heavy) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” A clear and unmistakable order. The softest word possible: Discrimination. There are a number of stronger ones. And the jizya frequently was high. Comments on how it is to live under such heartless apartheid conditions are not necessary - the Negroes in South Africa or the Southern States in USA in earlier times could tell you - even though they at least did not have to pay an extra tax on top of all.

    Also see other chapters (in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran")- f.x. “Muslims are better than other people”, like 25/44 or 68/35+36, and “Golden Age of Coexistence".

    THE CLAIM THAT ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE, IS SERIOUSLY WRONG.

    One more fundamental point: There NEVER was anything like this in the Bible - see f.x. Jesus' words: "Give to Caesar (meaning the emperor*) what is Caesar's and to Yahweh what is Yahweh's", and also the Bible's damning words about "serving Mammon (money*)". Allah's and Muhammad's greed for riches is one more of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad far from in the same religion.

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    BUT AN ADDITIONAL MAIN POINT MAY BE THAT THIS IS THE MAIN AND CENTRAL POLITICAL MESSAGE AND ORDER TO ALL ISLAM AND ALL MUSLIMS THEN AND FOREVER - A FACT NON-MUSLIMS SHOULD BE AWARE OF AND N E V E R FORGET. THE OFFICIAL GOAL AND ORDER FOR ISLAM IS TO CONQUER EVERYTHING AND SUPPRESS ALL NON-MUSLIMS TO BECOME SLAVES OR SEMI SLAVES UNDER ISLAM, (and pagans worse off than Jews and Christians.)

    This sentence must be seen in connection to 9/33j below.

    This is the promised future for non-Muslims under Islam. A religion built on a book so full of errors that the book itself proves there is no god behind it. Perhaps the dark forces, but not any god.

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    ###269 9/39a: “Unless ye (Muslims*) go forth (in war/battle for Islam/Muhammad*), He (Allah*) will punish you with a grievous penalty (normally in the Quran a synonym for Hell*) - - -”. An order not possible to misunderstand for a pious - or fanatic - Muslim.

    Yes, This is a religion built on peace, goodness, and heavenly ethics and morality.

    THIS IS THE ORDER ALSO TODAY - JUST LISTEN TO SOME IMAMS, ETC. - see 9/38d.

    THIS VERSE TELLS HORRIBLY MUCH ABOUT ISLAM AS IT IS TAUGHT IN THE QURAN.

    One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - not to mention that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion.

    297 9/44f: “And Allah knoweth well those (the Muslims going to war for Islam/Allah/Muhammad*) who do their duty”. War for the religion is strictly against the Bible and especially NT. Yahweh and Allah the same god? - Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets? - or the same religion? Believe it if you are able to.

    331 9/51e: This verse is not from the Bible (actually little in the Quran is from the Bible itself - mostly it is from Biblical but made up legends, or from no known source). Predestination in the meaning of what you find in the Quran, does not exist in the Bible - one of the very solid proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, as the teachings are far too different also on the fundamental points.

    ####334 9/52c: "But we (Muslims*) can expect for you (non-Muslims*) either that Allah will send his punishment from Himself, or by our hands". The last part of the sentence means that when Muslims are fighting or in other ways are being adverse to non-Muslims, they are doing the work of Allah - punishing them for him. Mistreating, stealing from, raping, extorting, suppressing, torturing, murdering non-Muslims are sermons to Allah! Comments? Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion?

    434 9/73c: “Strive (fight*) hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites - - -”. There is nothing like this in the Bible. In OT there is fighting, but for the Jews' country, not for the religion, and NT hardly accepts armed conflicts at all. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Nyet - which is a good English word meaning NO with capital letters and at least 3 lines under it.

    ###461 9/77a: “- - - He (Allah*) hath put as a consequence hypocrisy into their hearts, (to last) till the Day (of Doom*)”. As you see also the hypocrites have no choice - they actually are made hypocrites by Allah, and he gives them no chance of changing their mind. But the good god all the same is going to punish them severely. Besides: Compare this with "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8-13) or "the lost sheep" in NT - Yahweh and Allah the same god? With as fundamental differences in the religion as this, only one answer is possible. Also see 2/7c above.

    482 9/81h: This verse in short: The ones not willing to do battle for Allah/Muhammad may end in hell. Do you want end there? One more of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad neither serving the same god nor the same religion - the differences between them - and between their teachings, moral codes, etc. are far too big, too deep, and too fundamental

    500 9/86c: “When a surah comes down (to Muhammad*), enjoining them to believe in Allah and strive and struggle (= make war*) with His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Nearly as far as possible away from the NT as it is possible to come. The same god? The same religion? - he in the same line of prophets? Possible to believe if you are naive or uncritically want to believe it.

    530 9/91i: Verse 9/91 in short says that only those with heavy reasons for staying at home when Allah - Muhammad - wants a raid or a war, were to be excused for not joining the raid or war party.

    This means it is different - and contradicting - in the extreme from the Bible, and especially from NT and the New Covenant. It simply is incompatible with especially the NT. One more heavy and 100+% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion or line of prophets. (On the last point: ####Is it possible to find two characters who morally, ethically and in teaching were more different and further apart than Jesus and Muhammad? - the messenger of love versus the messenger/warlord of dishonesty, apartheid, crime, suppression and war. Besides one was a prophet or more according to both the Bible and the Quran, whereas the other even himself admitted he did not have the gift of making prophesies ("see the unseen").

    537 9/93e: Like verse 9/91 above this verse is different - and contradicting - in the extreme from the Bible, and especially from NT and the New Covenant. One more heavy and 100+% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of prophets. (On the last point: Is it possible to find two characters who morally, ethically and in teaching were more different and further apart than Jesus and Muhammad? - the messenger of love versus the messenger/warlord of apartheid, dishonesty, crime, suppression and war. Besides one was a prophet or more according to both the Bible and the Quran, whereas the other even himself admitted he did not have the gift of making prophesies ("see the unseen").

    ###551 9/95a: "They (the ones not wanting to go to war*) will swear to you (Muhammad*) by Allah, when ye return to them, that ye may leave them alone. So leave them alone: for they are an abomination, and Hell is their dwelling-place - a fitting recompense for the (evil) they did". They did the evil of wanting to be excused from going to war, and consequently are an abomination and only deserve Hell. 180 degree opposite of NT - and adding that in OT the wars were motivated by establishing and defending a national country, whereas in the Quran the wars, etc. are religiously motivated ("holy wars" - every armed incident Muhammad had, he claimed was holy war or holy battle) + the economy in stealing and slave taking - - - and the enjoyment in raping girls and women. Also OT is widely different from these parts of the Quran - in OT wars were for defense or for territory, not for the god and the religion. One more of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

    ##557 9/96: “- - - Allah is not pleased with those who disobey (and refuse to go on raids or to war*)”. The good, kind, benevolent, wise god - leading a "Religion of Peace"?. The question is especially relevant as most of Muhammad's raids were for riches, captives and extortion. And another fact: Here on Earth the sentence simply meant and means that Allah is not pleased with those who did/do not obey Muhammad and his successors, and with those who do not want to go to war.

    Yahweh an Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? No comment necessary.

    641 9/111b: “Allah hath purchased of the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise): they fight in His (Allah’s) Cause, and slay and are slain (and go to Paradise afterwards*) - - -.” Try to find something similar to this in NT - or even in the more warlike OT. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion or line of prophets (even omitting the fact that Muhammad was unable to make prophesies - "see the unseen" - and thus no real prophet)? The answers are very obvious - one of the 200%+ proofs for that Muhammad was not telling the truth here. This also is incompatible to the Bible.

    662 9/113d: "It is not fitting, for the Prophet and those who believe, that they should pray forgiveness for Pagans, even though they be of kin - - -". This cynical sentence tells a few megabytes about the Quran, about Muhammad, and about Islam - not to mention about the Quran's and Islam's moral code. Even if this was the only difference between the Bible and the Quran, this alone had been a 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. And remember: Science has proved far beyond any even unreasonable doubt that the Bible and especially the NT is not falsified in spite of Muhammad's never proved claims - may be some mistakes, but no falsifications. The best proof for this is Islam: If one single real falsification had been found, Islam had screamed about it to every living being on Earth, included rats and worms. No such scream has ever been heard. Thus Islam thoroughly has proved the same; they also have found no proved falsification - lots of claims, but no proved case.

    699 9/120d: “It was not fitting for (them - see 9/120a just above*) to refuse to follow Allah’s Messenger, nor to prefer their own lives to his - - -”. Muhammad demanded blood and lives. According to the Bible Jesus gave his life. The same line of prophets? Yahweh and Allah the same god? No-one with real knowledge is able to believe that - except some Muslims (religiously blind = one who believes not because of proofs, but in spite of proofs).

    705 9/120j: "- - - the Cause of Allah - - -". We just remind you that a cause of Allah does not exist unless Allah exists. If he does not, or is different from what is claimed with never any proof in the Quran, it was the cause of Muhammad.

    118 10/25b: "He (Allah*) doth guide whom He pleaseth to a Way that is straight (= direction Heaven*)". It is Allah who decides ("whom He pleaseth"), not you (in Hadiths it even is made clear that Allah decides whether you are to end in Hell or Heaven, 5 months before you are even born, and there is nothing you can do about that decision). A bit different from NT to say the least of it: Yahweh wants everybody to Paradise - you have to be a sinner by your own merit and from real free will, and not honestly regretting your sins, to be closed out. The same god? No.

    170 11/37b: "- - - address Me (Allah*) no (further) on behalf of those who are in sin - - -". What a contrast to "the lost lamb" and "the eleventh hour", etc. in NT. Allah and Yahweh the same god? No. The new Covenant in NT similar to the Medina surahs? No - only if you are on a bad "acid" trip. The fundamental principles of the religions are too different - and we remind you one cannot blame a falsified Bible, as science clearly has proved that this never proved claim from Muhammad is wrong - - - and Islam has proved it even stronger.

    448 11/119c: "I (Allah*) will fill Hell with jinns (a being from old Arab pagan religion, legends, and fairy tales*) and men all together." A benevolent and good god? - Hell is no nice place, and he will fill it. Try to find something like this in the Gospels. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

    205 13/33i: "And those whom Allah leaves to stray - - -". WHAT A DIFFERENCE COMPARED TO NT'S "THE LOST LAMB" AND "THE 11TH HOUR", ETC. Yahweh and Allah same god? Simply NO.

    211 13/35a: “The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised! – beneath it flow rivers: perpetual is the enjoyment thereof and the shade therein - - -”. As said: Muhammad's Paradise is like the life of the very rich + more water and women, as seen through the eyes of primitive and poor male dwellers of a hot desert. But Allah should be the god of the entire world and all people. And why such a primitive paradise? – because as paradises come, this is a primitive one, and in the long run also a very boring one.

    The many and fundamental differences between Yahweh's Paradise (where you become like the angels f.x. Matt. 22/30) and the one of Allah, are one of the many absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, the Paradise had been one and the same.

    011 16/2b: “He (Allah*) sent down His angels with inspiration (“ruh”*) - - -.” It may here be worth reminding you that Yahweh did not use inspiration when giving messages to his prophets - he either used direct contact, visions or dreams (4. Mos. 12/6-8), never inspiration. Yahweh and Allah the same god?

    120 16/30-32: “To those (Muslims*) who do good, there is good in this world (sometimes*), and the Home of the Hereafter (Paradise*) is even better; and excellent indeed is the Home of the righteous – Gardens of Eternity which they will enter: beneath them flow (pleasant) rivers - - -”. The promise is: A nice, Earth-like Paradise (see 10/9f above) for eternity. But as there is no god behind the Quran and all its mistakes, it is an open question how much the promise is worth. What is sure, though, is that the many and fundamental differences between Yahweh's and Allah's paradises alone prove 100+% that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradises had been one and the same.

    152 16/36e: "- - - of the people were some whom Allah guided - - -". One of the big differences between Allah and Yahweh - Allah "guideth whom he choseth", (even worse if he predestined many for hell, like the Quran clearly tells some places), whereas Yahweh tries to reach everybody ("the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8-13)) even though because of full free will, many do not listen. Not the same god, never the same religion. (Besides: You cannot do much religious guiding by means of a book full of mistakes and contradictions, etc. and not from any god - no god would deliver the quality information you find too much of in the Quran).

    282 16/63a: "By Allah - - -". The word "By" indicates an oath. Allah is swearing by himself - a bit special thing to do. Or is it Muhammad who is talking in the Quran again? - a book claimed to be very ancient and revered by the god in his Heaven?

    Also remember that according to Jesus, you preferably shall not swear at all - and if you all the same do, you are obliged to keep it. For Allah and Muhammad swearing mainly is ok, and it also mainly is ok to break an oath - pay expiancy if necessary. Hardly the same gods, and Jesus and Muhammad definitely not representing the same religion or line of prophets.

    449 16/96d: "And We (Allah*) will certainly bestow - - - (on Muslims*) - - - their reward according to the best of their actions." One more difference between Yahweh and Allah: For Yahweh regretting sins and asking for forgiveness counts more than the good deeds. For Allah it is mainly the balance between good (sometimes/often "good") and bad deeds which counts. A plus for leaders on Earth who wanted action.

    As for forgiving from Allah: Also see 2/187d and 67/9c above.

    ###161 17/46a: "And We (Allah*) put coverings over their (unbelievers*) hearts (and minds) lest they should understand the Quran - - -". Yahweh/Jesus in NT and the New Covenant would never - never - hide "the narrow road" to paradise for anyone at all, except for very special reasons. Allah and Yahweh the same god? Just you believe it! - not unless the god is at least schizophrenic, and strongly so."

    224 17/61b: "Behold We (Allah*) said to the angels: 'Bow down to Adam'". This is one of the many clear proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god: In the Quran man is superior to angels. In the Bible the situation is not as clearly told as in the Quran, but angels clearly are "higher" than man. Which shows that Yahweh's angels are not the same as Allah's, and thus also that the Paradises are different (angels are an integrated part of Yahweh's Paradise, but are not mentioned in Allah's in the Quran - they are mentioned in Heaven, but not as "inhabitants" of Paradise) are different. With marked different angels and very marked different Paradises, the two are not the same god.

    270 17/79c: "- - - soon will thy Lord (Allah*) raise thee (Muhammad*) to a Station (Heaven*) of Praise and Glory (a top position -"Maqam Mahmud" - in Paradise*)". One more proof for that Yahweh's and Allah's paradises are very different, and that thus Yahweh and Allah cannot be the same god: In Yahweh's Paradise the humans "become like angels" (Mark 12/25) and not one single place in the entire NT there is said anything about anyone being different in Paradise (little is said about Paradise in OT). In Allah's Paradise there is aristocracy and even the commoners are divided in 4 or 6 or more gardens, one better than the other. Yahweh and Allah the same god? You bet!

    ##157 18/50a: "- - - We (Allah*) said to the angels. 'Bow down to Adam.'". This is not from the Bible, and it is one of the more than 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. In Allah's paradise, man as showed from this, clearly have measurably higher standing than angels. In Yahweh's the lines are not as clearly told, but it is very clear that angels are of higher standing than man. Add this to man's life in the paradises: Allah's offer resurrection in body, top earthly luxury and plenty of women - and no mental activity. In Yahweh's the resurrected souls becomes like angels. There are nearly no similarities at all, and the differences are formidable. Not the same paradise - not the same gods.

    319 18/110d: "- - - the inspiration (the Quran*) has come to me (Muhammad*) - - -". The Biblical prophets never got their information from the god by means of inspiration according to the Bible - in stark contradiction to what Muhammad often claimed (to make himself like them, and thus being able to claim he was a real prophet) - but by direct contact, visions, or dreams (4. Mos.12/5-8). One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

    268 21/80b: “It was We (Allah*) Who taught him (King David*) the making of coats of mail”. If this had been true, it is thought provoking the Allah did teach how to make coats-of-mail to use when going on raids or to war, whereas Yahweh in his New Covenant (f.x. Matt. 26/28) via Jesus thought you: "Love your enemy" (Matt. 5/44). The same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? A naive question.

    Another fact is that coats-of-mail did not exist until some 700 year later, and were invented by the Celts = in northwest Europe, thousands of miles and kilometers off.

    108 22/23a: “Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments will be of silk”. As said before: A Paradise like the life of the very rich and kings in and around Arabia at that time, as seen through the eyes of the poor and the primitive. Has an omniscient god nothing better to offer? Also this is a robust proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - their Paradises are totally different: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Matt. 22/30). To say the least of it: There is some difference between Earth-like luxury plus plenty of sex for the men, and to become like angels.

    ##147 22/30b: "- - - the sacred rites of Allah - - -". These rites - so essential to Allah in spite of being directly adopted pagan ones and pretty childish/naive ones fitting primitive minds mainly - are so entirely different from anything Yahweh asks for, that especially combined with the very demand for going on pilgrimage to a claimed very holy place never even mentioned in the Bible, that they make up one more 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. This even more so as the demanded place like mentioned is on totally without interest to Yahweh - not mentioned a single time in the entire Bible. And neither Yahweh, nor Jesus ever expressed a wish for humans to practice pilgrimage (there is pilgrimage among Christians, too, but the request for such is not from the Bible - f.x. not one of the Biblical prophets, included Jesus, ever made a pilgrimage or even wanted to do so, not to mention a pilgrimage to Mecca or Kabah).

    #########Another point: As Allah has predestined your life according to his Plan, which nobody and nothing can change, also a pilgrimage can have no effect, as it is a result of Allah's Plan, not an expression of a laudable intention by the person.

    152 22/32a: "- - - the symbols of Allah - - -". Here referring to the rites of the pilgrimage - the hajj - in Mecca, likely especially to the ones connected to the sacrifice of animals.

    If Yahweh and Allah had been the same god, it had been somewhat peculiar that the god liked such sacrifices in the OT, but dropped it in the New Covenant and the teaching of Jesus - for them to reinstall it shortly (at least shortly for a god) afterwards. A god with no clear ideas for what he wants?

    Most of the rituals during Hajj are taken over from the old pagan Arab religion. It is peculiar if polytheistic pagan rites are symbols of a monotheistic god, and as peculiar that only the Arab pagan religion "happened" to have the correct rites. There are no similar rites in NT; not the same god, Jesus and Muhammad far from in the same religion.

    Also the rites are very primitive - fit old pagan religions. Of course one can claim symbolism - one can claim symbolism from the story of Al Capone, Baron von Münchausen, Adolph Hitler, and Donald Duck - but also the symbolisms in the rites are primitive ones, fitting primitive, naive minds. Throw stones at "the Devil", walk the old magic number of 7 times around the Kabah, kill some defenseless animals, etc.

    Both the rites, their background, and the claimed symbols tell a lot about Islam.

    173 22/36b: "The sacrificial camels We (Allah*) made for you (Muslims*) among the symbols from Allah - - -". One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - Yahweh in his New Covenant and NT neither asks for nor provides sacrificial animals (though there were in OT), not to mention name such ones as symbols from himself. The differences between Yahweh and Allah really are huge and many and varied even at essential points.

    295 22/56g: "- - - Gardens of Delight". Paradise. Also see 10/9f above.

    In the Bible the delight is life like an angel in Paradise. In the Quran it is life like a poor, uneducated, and naive desert dweller's vision of a royal luxury life, included lots of sex at least for the men. Yahweh and Allah definitely are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad as surely not in the same religion, not to mention in the same line of prophets.

    318 22/60c: "- - - if one has retaliated to no greater extent than the injury he received, and is again set upon inordinately, Allah will help him - - -". If you are attacked more times after a reasonable revenge the first time, you are permitted to do whatever you like, and use whatever means, and Allah will accept and forgive it (A22/74). Also this widely different from the moral ideas behind NT. Not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad absolutely not in the same religion (remember f.x. Jesus' "Love your enemy", "Turn the other cheek").

    As for forgiving from Allah: Also see 2/187d and 67/9c above.

    009 24/2c: “The woman and the man guilty of adultery of fornication – flog each of them with a hundred stripes: let not compassion move you /Muslims*) in their case, in a Matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment”. Compare this to Jesus: "The one who is without sin, may throw the first stone". The same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion or line of prophets? No.

    266 25/68c: "- - - nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause - - -". The 10 Commandments: "You shall not Kill". There is a deep difference between these two sentences. The same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? Guess!

    184 26/97a: "By Allah - - -". Sentences in the Quran starting with "by", normally are oaths - one swears "by" someone or something. There is not a little of swearing in the Quran. From Jesus you find more or less nothing of that kind. One more indication for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion - different religions run by different gods (if they both exist).

    319 27/91b: "- - - Him (Allah*) Who has sanctified it (the town Mecca*) - - -". One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god: To Allah Mecca is very holy and central, whereas neither Yahweh, nor anyone else in the Bible even mentions it one single time - not in any connection. The same goes for Kabah. F.x. none of the Jewish prophets, included Jesus, ever uttered one single wish to visit that claimed top holy place - not even at Ramadan/the time for Hajj. Not one of them and not one single time. One of the 200% - at least - proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, not to mention for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion.

    #155 28/50e: "For Allah guides not people given to wrongdoing." Once more a deep difference in the teachings of the Quran and the NT: Just these ones are "the lost lambs" NT/Jesus/Yahweh try to reach more than any others with their guidance. (Luke 15/8-10 + 15/11-31 and Matt. 18/12-14 + 20/8-13).

    184 28/56b: "- - - but Allah guides whom He wills". Whereas Yahweh according to NT guides all and everybody who wishes to be guided (f.x. Luke 15/8-10 + 15/11-31 and Matt 18/12-14 + 20/8-13). Just and only here is such a fundamental abyss between the ways Allah and Yahweh thinks and acts (Yahweh guides anyone who wish and who lives accordingly, Allah whom he wills), that only this is a 110% proof for that they were not the same god, even if there had not been other differences it here is proved - but there are many.

    ####200 29/46f: “- - - our (Muslims*) and your (Jews and Christians*) god is one - - -”. This is not correct unless he is schizophrenic, as too many fundamental aspects are too different between the two teachings. To mention a few points (there are MANY more):

    Islam: The New Testament:
    Do not kill without a good reason. Do not kill.
    To wage war is a religious duty. Do not kill.
    An eye for an eye. Turn the other cheek.
    You cannot carry another’s burden. Carry your fellow man’s burden.
    Religion shall run the country. My land is not of this world.
    Be killed for Allah and go to Paradise. Become like a child to go to Paradise.
    Paradise = Earth-like luxury plus women Paradise = Heaven for your soul.
    (for women = Earth-luxury and a share of the husband). (for women = Heaven for your soul.)
    Paradise = resurrected body. Paradise = the soul lives on.
    Do not lie except for good reason. Do not lie.
    Do not mourn the unbeliever. “The lost sheep”.
    Break an oath and pay expiation for it if necessary. To break any oat is a severe sin.
    Al-Taqiyya – Muslims’ lawful lie. Do not lie.
    Kitman - Muslims' lawful half-truth. Do not lie.
    Hilah - Muslims' lawful pretending/circumventing”. Do not lie.
    "War is deceit” - and "everything" is holy war. Do not lie.
    To rob and steal may be “lawful and good” and a duty. Do not steal.
    To rape a female slave is “lawful and good”. So immoral that it is not even mentioned.
    Help others to gain merit in heaven. Help others because they need it – and gain merit in heaven.

     

    *A similar sentence exists also in Islam (in Hadiths), but it is so well hidden and forgotten and sleeping, that we never have heard it quoted even from Muslims trying to prove what a benevolent religion Islam is.

    (For those who do not know: Jesus said that if someone hit you on one cheek, turn the other towards him = answer bad with good. And: Jesus said that a good shepherd would search for a lost sheep = to save a lost soul is very valuable, and there is a reason to mourn the not saved ones.)

    We know both religions have been misused – though with one serious difference: Christ has been misused in contradiction to his teaching, Islam very often because of and in accordance with the Quran’s often bloody teaching and lack of real moral.

    But these are some of the teachings – some of the fundamental points. And it is worth repeating here that science (and even more so Islam) has proved that the Bible is not falsified – a few mistakes, but no falsifications. This in spite of the Quran’s and Islam’s never documented claims of much falsification. Islam will have to show proofs for the claims, if they want to be believed – proofs they have been unable to find in 1400 years. (We also reminding you that the only other alternative is that something is seriously wrong with the Quran and hence with Islam, as no god makes a book full of errors, etc.). Only Islam says it is the same god - and they are wrong, as the differences between the 2 are too many and too deep, unless the god is mentally ill. Similar claims in 2/139 -3/64 – 42/13.

    Also see separate chapter - hopefully to be launched in 2016 AD - in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran", Book A under http://www.1000mistakes.com .

    Only Islam says it is the same god - and they are wrong, unless the god is mentally ill.

    195 30/45e" For He (Allah*) loves not those who reject Faith". One more deep difference between the Quran and NT: According to the Bible Jesus and Yahweh love every human being and try to give them the chance for salvation till the very end (f.x. Luke 15/8-10 + 15/11-31 and Matt. 18/12-14 + 20/8/13). Allah loves only the Muslims. The same god and religion? The answers are pretty obvious.

    257 30/59a: "Thus does Allah seal up the hearts of those who understand not (non-Muslims*)". They shall not have the chance to understand. No further comments. But guess if this is different from "the lost sheep", "the 11th hour", and other points in the NT! Yahweh the same god as Allah? - Jesus in the same religion as Muhammad? Guess!

    071 33/15b: "- - - they (Muslims*) had already a covenant with Allah not to turn their back (in war/battle) - - -". Quite a covenant for any dictator to use to push his warriors - would have been a dream for any such one - - - and Muhammad had it! Not to mention: Compare this with NT!!! And compare Yahweh to Allah or Jesus to Muhammad - if you think such comparisons are possible.

    ##072 33/15c: "- - - they (Muslims*) had already a covenant with Allah not to turn their back (in war/battle) - - -". Also quite a theme for a covenant with/from the claimed good and benevolent god of "the religion of peace". Try to compare this with: "You shall not kill (or sometimes translated 'murder')" (The 10 Commandments, 2. Mos. 20/13), not to mention "Turn the other cheek" in the time of the New Covenant (Luke.22/20).

    A mystery: Why did an omnipotent god need humans to fight for him? His omnipotence makes this meaningless. But everything suddenly gets meanings if it was Muhammad and not Allah who needed the warriors.

    There also is another fact which often strikes us when the Quran claims that Yahweh and Allah are the same god: The Mosaic religion had a rather strict god - Yahweh could be harsh and strict and bloody. But his harshness and his tendencies to be bloody had a limited purpose: To make the Jews a believing people and to create space for a homeland for them. When this was done - at least after a fashion - - - and when there for the first time in history came a period of peace and international open connections - the Pax Romana (27BC to 180 AD) - long enough for a peaceful religion to set strong enough roots to survive later harsh times in this normally unruly part of the world, he let the more peaceful and human sides of his religion take over. All this for suddenly changing his mind around 622 AD, when Muhammad started to need warriors and moral explanation for his raids of thieving, enslaving and murder, and not only return to the harsher version of his religion from OT, but taking it far into Odin's and Thor's Valhalla (gods and the Paradise of the Vikings) and blood and war, or Djingis Khan's pure religion of war - or actually even further. We repeat: NOT when Muhammad stared the new religion in 610, but when he started to need warriors in 622-623!!

    And a thought which strikes us is: This god must have a "jumbled up" "top floor" to change his mind that frequently and that much back and forth:

    If Muhammad and the Quran are correct on this point, the god drifted form a rather benevolent, but strict religion (OT) with some harsh spots, towards a religion (NT) dominated of mildness and love. (Before you fire your machine-guns: Remember we are talking about how the book tells the religion should be, not how it in reality was practiced or disused some times and places).

    Then suddenly in 622 AD in the space of a few months, the god not only returns to his stricter and obsolete OT-ideas, but creates a new and full-fledged apartheid, hate, dishonesty, and war religion (that Islam is "the religion of peace" is pure al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and propaganda - just read the Quran and the Hadiths and see for yourself, only remember that when nice words are contradicted by harsh demands and deeds and rules, it is the demands and deeds and rules which are telling the truth, not the nice, but cheap words). And not least: Read what imams, mullahs, and other scholars tell Muslims - not the rest of the world, but Muslims - the glorious duty of fighting wars.

    And our thoughts continue: This god is a master of mental slalom - or he is undecided. Or is the reason inability to make up his mind?

    To our knowledge there never before - or after - was a religion which drifted from benevolent, but strict, to peace and love, for them to change once more, and now to the very opposite: A religion of discrimination, superiority complex, and a pure apartheid, dishonesty, and war religion - from politeness and from a small feeling that the word "hate" is just a little too strong, we omit that word here.

    To our knowledge there also never in history was another religion which change so completely - here from relatively peaceful to a full war religion - in such a short time: Just some months, maximum 2 years (within the period 622 - 624 AD).

    Did Allah find peace too boring and changed his mind ones more to get more action and blood and human misery?

    Or was it Muhammad who suddenly wanted warriors for his raids?

    053 35/8j: "For Allah leaves to stray whom He Wills, and guides whom He wills". Once more one of the abysses between the Quran and NT: Allah picks whom he wants for salvation, Yahweh saves absolutely everyone who wants and qualifies - even up to the last moment, if there is honest regret and belief. The same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? Impossible.

    100 35/18a: "Nor can a bearer of burdens bear another's burden." Here is one more difference between NT and the Quran - and this one is big, as they are 180 degrees opposing each others: The NT says - and it is nearly an order - "carry each others' burdens". Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? Answers not necessary.

    003 36/2a: “By the Quran - - -". Here Muhammad - or Allah(?) - is swearing by the Quran. Sentences in the Quran starting with "by" in the Quran normally are oaths. One of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Allah often swears in the Quran, and it is permitted - yes, laudable in some cases - to break an oath. According to Yahweh and Jesus you shall not swear at all (Matt. 34-37), and if you do it all the same, you are to honor it.

    A central question. Two very different answers. = Very different gods and moral codes and religions.

    002 37/1a: "By those ranging themselves in ranks - - -". Muhammad or Allah here swears "by those ranging themselves in ranks - - -". Sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad very far from in the same line. According to the Bible you shall not swear at all (Matt. 5/34-37), whereas in the Quran it is ok and Muhammad does so often. And if you all the same swears, the according to the Bible you shall keep your word, whereas in the Quran it often is ok - yes, sometimes laudable - to break even oaths. A 100% proof - at least the fact that Allah and Muhammad permit breaking and disuse of oaths, whereas Yahweh and Jesus demand that if you after all has made an oath, it IS to be honored proves something.

    084 37/48b: “And besides them (Muslim men in Paradise*) will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty).” These are the famous houris who are to comfort Muslim men in Paradise. And what comfort did primitive – and for that case some other – men think of? The women are solely for man’s pleasure in Paradise, too, (well, on Earth they also are for giving him sons). Nothing is said in the Quran about where the houris come from, nothing is said about how they like to be in the harems of often rough, uneducated and primitive – and naïve? – warriors - - - and also nothing is said about how the wives enjoy the competition. Only what the man likes counts. Islam is a religion for the apartheid elite - the Muslim man and especially the warrior.

    There as mentioned is another mystery: From where did the houris come? – and what were they. A theory that the early Muslims – f.x. Hasan al-Basri - believed, is that they were women who had lived a pious and good life on Earth. Of necessity they could not have been married (or married to men that ended in Hell?), because married women followed their husbands – it is not said which one if they had been married more times, but perhaps the last one). But how many such single women existed compared to the millions of warriors that had a right to up to 70 each? And how did such women like to be sex slaves for often rough and self centered and primitive men – was it a Paradise for them too, or - - -? Another theory was/is that they were girls that died as babies or unmarried children - but then they in case should belong to their father's household in Paradise. And the same question: How many children died compared to how many houris needed as gifts to warrior and terrorist?

    A quote: "Islam is the Religion for the apartheid elite - the Muslim man, and especially the warrior".

    A PS: The idea of houris in Paradise is borrowed from the old Persia, where they were named Paaris.

    #199 38/73: "So the angels prostrated themselves (for Adam*), all of them together (quite a number - there must be millions and billions according to some places in the Quran and in Hadiths*) - - -". This proves that in the Quran, humans are high above angels as beings. In the Bible this is not clearly defined anywhere, but all the same it is very clear that angels are beings superior to humans. One more clear proof for that that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - also their heavens are too different.

    182 40/35g: "Thus doth Allah seal up every heart - of arrogant and obstinate and transgressors." See "the lost lamb/sheep" or "the 11. hour". Not the same god as in NT.

    074 42/13l: "Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases - - -". Whereas Yahweh in his covenant via Jesus tries to get all. "The lost sheep", "the 11. hour", "it is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick (Matt.9/12)". The same god? No.

    132 42/22g: "- - - (Muslims*) will be in the luxuriant meads of the Gardens - - -". Often claimed, never proved. And claims are cheap - similar claims you find in most religions, they are that cheap. Only Yahweh has perhaps - perhaps - proved something.

    In the Quran's paradise there is "luxuriant meads". In Yahweh's "you become like the angels" (Matt. 22/30). The two are not the same god - if they had been, their paradises had been one and the same.

    224 42/41a: "But indeed if any do help and defend themselves after a wrong is (done) to them (= they take revenge for the wrong*), against such there is no cause of blame". Compare this to f.x. "turn the other cheek" (f.x. Matt. 5/39) or "love your enemies" (f.x. Matt. 5/44). One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same moral league - or religion or line of prophets (this even if Muhammad had been a real prophet - see f.x. 9/88b above).

    250 42/46b: "- - - for any whom Allah leaves to stray - - -". Allah leaves to stray whom he wants - some already from before they are born. Yahweh according to NT tries to find all his "sheep". Same god? No.

    ##110 43/36b: "- - - We (Allah*) appoint for him (one who has left Islam*) a Satan, to be an intimate companion to him". And this is pretended to be the same god who tells about "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8-13), etc.?! This verse in the Quran only and alone is enough to prove 100% that Yahweh is a different - and a very different - god from Allah. And then there are all the other serious differences - f.x. something as prosaic(?) as the enormously different Paradises.

    003 44/2a: "By the Book (the Quran*) - - -". Allah is swearing by the Quran - normally when a sentence in the Quran starts with "by", it is an oath. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same gods, because Yahweh strictly says you shall not swear (Matt. 5/34), and if you all the same do so, you have to honor your oath (whereas Allah/Muhammad tells that an oath you did not mean, hardly counts at all, and even if it was a strong and confirmed oath you really meant, it can be broken if that will give a better result - pay expiation afterwards if necessary - 2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah can cheat, cheating is ok - but how much is then cheating in the Quran?). and as the Bible's point of view is said via Jesus, it also proves that Jesus and Muhammad do not belong in the same group or religion.

    114 44/53: "Dressed in fine silk and rich brocade - - -". The Quran's paradise is like a poor, uneducated, and naive desert warrior's dream about earthly royal life - likely the maximum of luxury Muhammad's early followers were able to dream about. Yahweh's Paradise on the other hand is spiritual. One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

    ###116 44/54a: “- - - and We (Allah*) shall join them to Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes.” Women as payment for "good deeds" like stealing, suppressing, torturing, killing. Some moral code and some view on women - slaves/things to use for gifts or payment. Not in the Bible. One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - their paradises are utterly different. If they had been the same god, their Paradise had been one and the same. See f.x. Luke 20/36, not to mention: "For the Kingdom of God/Yahweh is not a matter of eating and drinking (or sex*) - - -", (Rom.14/17). And also not to mention: "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Mark 12/25).

    074 47/15a: “(Here is) a parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes, rivers of wine (this surah is from 622 AD – around the flight to Medina) a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits - - -.” Yes, like in Utopia or another earthly paradise, dreamed up by the poor people in an arid land – or by someone else making dreams for them. A materialistic paradise, but here at least with added distant grace from Allah. And in Paradise Muslims seems to be permitted to drink wine – “a joy”.

    But so different from Yahweh's Paradise that it is one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, their paradises had been one and the same. And an as strong proof for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion - especially if you add Allah's(?) houris.

    091 47/16e: "- - - men whose hearts Allah has sealed - - -". "The lost lamb/sheep", "the 11. hour", etc. The same god as Yahweh in the Bible, not to mention in the "new covenant" (= Jesus' teaching in the NT)? "Nyet" - which is a good English word meaning a very strong NO.

    115 47/23c: "- - - He (Allah*) made them (sinners, non-Muslim*) deaf and blinded their sight". Compare to Yahweh and f.x. his "lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14). Yahweh the same god as Allah? Impossible.

    093 48/17i: “- - - and he (see first part of 48/17a-c above*) who turns back (from doing battle*) (Allah) will punish him with a grievous Penalty.” No more comments necessary. But try to find things like this in NT! One more at least clear indication for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and 100% proof for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same line of anything of any consequence.

    105 48/20c: "Allah has promised you (Muslims*) many gains that ye shall acquire (from plunder*) - - -". Try to find things like this in NT about stealing, extortion, slave taking, etc.! One more at least 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of anything of any consequence.

    003 50/1b: “- - - by the Glorious Quran - - -”. Allah is swearing by the Quran - normally when a sentence in the Quran starts with "by", it is an oath. One of the 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same gods, because Yahweh strictly says you shall not swear (Matt. 5/34), and if you all the same do so, you shall honor your oath. As this is said via Jesus, it also proves that Jesus and Muhammad do not belong in the same group or religion. Further: As the Bible makes it clear that if you all the same swear, you have to stand by your oath, whereas Allah permits even oaths to be broken - this is another proof for the same.

    004 50/1c: “- - - by the Glorious Quran - - -”. A book with that many mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, and unclear language (f.x. "the different ways of reading"), etc., and with so many hallmarks of cheating and deceiving (lose statements, invalid “signs” and “proofs”, partly immoral moral code, even at least a few lies) is not glorious. By the way the expression is an oath - swearing by the Quran. Sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths. Hope the rest is true, if not it is a false oath. Though in Islam in many cases false oaths are permitted - or can be forgiven if paid expiation for. In the Bible you should not swear, and if you all the same do, it is a great sin to break your oath. Same gods? Same religions? Guess 3 times. Similar claims in 50/1 – 85/21

    And if it is a false - pagan - religion and there somewhere exists a real, true one, to which Islam blocks the road for its believers - - - what then for all the Muslims?

    As for forgiving from Allah: Also see 2/187d.

    005 50/1d: “- - - by the Glorious Quran (thou (Muhammad*)) art Allah’s Messenger”. Allah is swearing by the Quran that Muhammad is his messenger. It is a good thing that according to Muhammad and the Quran (2/225a, 5/89a+b, 16/91d, 16/92a-b,66/2a) it is permitted to break even oaths - pay expiation if the oath is a serious one (not an alternative according to Yahweh or Jesus). Also see 50/1b above.

    002 51/1: "By the (Winds) that scatter - - -". Allah is swearing by a number of things - normally when a sentence in the Quran starts with "by", it is an oath. One of the indications for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same gods, because Yahweh strictly says you shall not swear (Matt. 5/34), and as this is said via Jesus, it also proves that Jesus and Muhammad does not belong in the same group, not to mention the same religion. Further the Bible makes it clear that if you all the same swear, you have to keep your oath, whereas Allah permits even oaths to be broken - a strong proof for the same.

    014 51/7: "By the Sky - - -". Allah is swearing by the Sky - normally when a sentence in the Quran starts with "by", it is an oath. One of the strong indications for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same gods, because Yahweh strictly says you shall not swear (Matt. 5/34), and as this is said via Jesus, it also proves that Jesus and Muhammad does not belong in the same religion or group. Further the Bible makes it clear that if you all the same swear, you have to keep your oath, whereas Allah permits even oaths to be broken - a strong proof for the same.

    002 52/1a: "By the Mount - - -". Allah is swearing by Mount Sinai - normally when a sentence in the Quran starts with "by", it is an oath. One of the strong indications for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same gods, because Yahweh strictly says you shall not swear (Matt. 5/34), and as this is said via Jesus, it also proves that Jesus and Muhammad does not belong in the same religion. Further the Bible makes it clear that if you all the same swear, you have to keep your oath, whereas Allah permits even oaths to be broken - pay expiation if it was a serious oath - a clear proof for the same.

    005 52/2a: "By a Decree - - -". Allah swearing by a decree. See 52/1a and 52/1-6 above.

    007 52/2c: "By a much-frequented Fane (or house - see 52/4b-c below*) - - -". Allah swearing by a fane/house. See 52/1a and 52/1-6 above.

    010 52/5a: “By (Allah is swearing*) the Canopy (heaven*) Raised High - - -”. There is no canopy/material heaven, only optical illusions. What does it mean that Allah swears by something he should know does not exist??

    011 52/5b: "By the Canopy raised high - - -". Allah swearing by the sky. See 52/1a and 52/1-6 above.

    012 52/6a: “And by the Ocean filled with Swell - - -.” Allah is swearing by the ocean. See 52/1a and 52/1-6 above.

    035 52/17-24: A description of life in Muhammad's Paradise: Good food, good drinks, lazy life, houris/lots of sex (for men), your children around you (how is that possible as there given time will be a hundred generations?), luxury, servants, etc., etc., like a royal life in the dreams of poor, naive, and primitive warriors - - - and universes (see 51/47c) away from Yahweh's Paradise, where you "will become like the angels" (Mark 12/25). Yahweh and Allah the same god? - no chance!! One of the at least 200% proofs.

    037 52/19-20: (To them (Muslims in Paradise*) will be said) ’Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds.’ They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions (the famous houris*), with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.” What more can a poor, virile young – or old – uneducated and uncultivated and uncultured man from the desert dream about? Also see 10/9f and 52/17-24 above.

    But it has no relationship to Yahweh's and Jesus' Paradise, where you become like the angels (f.x. Matt. 20/35-36) - a lot more tempting in the long run than Muhammad's Paradise a la a king's dreamt up life included a harem. Not the same Paradise = not the same god = also not the same religion.

    ##039 52/20b: “- - - and We (Allah*) shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.” The famous houris. Like 37/48 and 42/25 above – see them. The introduction of houris by Muhammad into Islam seems to come from old Persian pagan religion, where they were named Paaris. (And the same for the handsome young male servants.)

    One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - their paradises are too different. And the fact that Jesus prohibited polygamy in any form - and also rape (sex where the woman/houri has no chaise) - is one of the really strong proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion, not to mention the same line of prophets.

    ##042 52/21c: "- - - to them (Muslims in Paradise*) shall we join their families - - -". According to Hadiths there are at least 4 or 6 gardens in Paradise - one better than the other. Plus there are the higher heavens for the really good Muslims. (Well, some Muslims say that Paradise (and Hell) is in the 6. Heaven.) It would take quite a co-incidence that every member of the big and extended families of that time - and for that case partly today - to merit the same garden in Paradise. What then? We have never met any Muslim mentioning this problem, or being able to give a good explanation if we mention it. One thing is to reach Paradise. Another to reach the same garden in paradise. With 6 or more gardens + Hell, a family very easily can become very scattered.

    One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - their Paradises are too different. If Yahweh and Allah had been the same god, their Paradises had been one and the same.

    046 52/24: “Round about them (Muslims and their houris*) will serve (devoted) to them, youths (handsome) as pearls well guarded”. These are the servants in Paradise – forever young, handsome men ("borrowed" from old Persian pagan religion). There is said nothing about from where they come, and as normal in the Quran it is said not a word about how secondary persons in a story feel or like life, or how Paradise is for them. The central persons - you and the ones similar to you - are in Paradise "rich" and on top, and that is what counts – others are of little interest. Empathy with underdogs (f.x. women, houris, servants, victims) does not exist in the Quran. Well, some to the poor Muslims (but do not give too much) and to orphans - but for that you find nothing.

    And there is another aspect to these handsome youths. The Quran frowns strongly at homosexuality, but all the same it at least some places is silently accepted. Are these youths a silent temptation - or more - in such a connection?". Muhammad wanted to attract also these warriors? - after all a warrior is a warrior.

    Yet another proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god: One more serious difference between their paradises. There are no servants in Yahweh's Paradise. (There cannot be servants in a perfect paradise, because to be servants is not perfect for the servants, and a paradise which is not perfect for everyone living there, is not a perfect paradise. Similar can be said about houris, who have to be sex-dolls for even the most selfish, rough, and primitive warrior.)

    047 52/27a: "- - - Allah has been good to us (Muslims in Paradise*) - - -". This is what the Quran claims. As so much is wrong in the Quran included some clear lies, the big question is if this not documented claim is true.

    002 53/1a: "By the Stars - - -". Allah is swearing by the Stars. Normally when a sentence in the Quran starts with "by", it is an oath. One of the strong indications for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same gods, because Yahweh strictly says you shall not swear (Matt. 5/34), and as this is said via Jesus, it also proves that Jesus and Muhammad does not belong in the same religion. Further the Bible makes it clear that if you all the same swear, you have to keep your oath, whereas Allah permits even oaths to be broken (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah can cheat, cheating is ok - but how much cheating is it then in the Quran? - by Allah or by Muhammad) - pay expiation if it was a serious oath - another proof for the same; not the same god, not the same religion.

    076 55/52: "- - - Fruits of every kind - - -". The Quran's and Islam's paradise is like a poor and naive primitive desert dweller's dream about an emperor's luxury life and harem on Earth - - - yes, plus the god in the not too far distance. Very different from Yahweh's paradise where you according to the Bible become like the angels (f.x. Matt. 22/30) - one of the solid proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

    078 55/54a: "They (good Muslims in Paradise*) recline on Carpets (also Paradise is Arabian style*), whose inner lining is rich brocade - - -". Earthly royal style - - - and very different from Yahweh's Paradise where you become like the angels (f.x. Luke 20/36, not to mention: "For the Kingdom of God/Yahweh is not a matter of eating and drinking (or sex*) - - -", (Rom.14/17). And also not to mention: "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Mark 12/25)). Yahweh and Allah the same god? Guess 3 times.

    081 55/56a: "In them (the gardens of Paradise*) will be (Maidens), restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before has touched". A nice Paradise for primitive men - and women does not count much in the Quran - but totally different from Yahweh's Paradise - only this verse alone proves so formidable difference to Yahweh (see f.x. Luke 20/36, not to mention: "For the Kingdom of God/Yahweh is not a matter of eating and drinking (or sex*) - - -", (Rom.14/17). And also not to mention: "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Mark 12/25)) that this alone proves Yahweh and Allah cannot be the same god - and then there are all the other differences in addition.

    083 55/56c: "- - - (Maidens), chaste - - - whom no man or Jinn before them (the Muslims in Paradise*) has touched - - -". The houris are virgins at arrival, but hardly for a long time.

    Compare this to f.x. Matt.22/30: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven". 200+% sure that Yahweh and Allah do not run the same paradise, and thus are not the same god. And as these are the words of Jesus: As sure that Jesus and Muhammad do not belong in the same moral world neither in this nor in a possible next life. A lot of things in this world are not true even if they are repeated often - f.x. that Jesus and Muhammad belong to the same line of prophets (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he had not the gift of prophesying).

    065 57/11b: “Who is he that will loan to Allah a beautiful loan (this expression in the Quran normally means to risk or give your life (in war)*)? For (Allah) will increase it manifold to his credit, and he will have (besides) a liberal reward.” Paradise for being killed in raid for riches or in war (see 57/11a above). Compare this to especially NT. One of the minimum 200% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad morally antipodes.

    032 59/7a: “What Allah has bestowed on His Messenger (Muhammad*) (and taken away from) the people of the townships (= robbed from vanquished people*) belongs to Allah – to his Messenger and to kindred and orphans, the needy and the wayfarer” – and what is not mentioned here: For Muhammad himself and his big family (though it is likely to be true that he did not live in big luxury), for payment to the ones who distributed the riches, for bribes to make undecided persons becoming or staying Muslims, for in other ways promoting the religion, and not least to financing more wars. Also the fixed “poor tax” all Muslims who are not too poor have to pay, also are for all these purposes, and as often a lot did go to fighting and other things, it is a question if the name “poor tax” is quite correct. Also see 59/6a above.

    This is one of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion: The general rule that things stolen/robbed from weaker or helpless victims belong to the god. Try to find something similar in the Bible, not to mention in NT!

    003 65/1b: “O Prophet! When ye (also all other Muslims*) divorce women - - -". What Muslims never mention, is that Muhammad had at least 16 short-time wives, which he divorced, and 7 women whom one does not know if he was formally married to or not (see the chapter about Muhammad and his women - at least 36 + at least 2 rapes - in www.1000mistakes.com ). NT on the other hand does not really accept divorce (f.x. Matt. 5/32) - and polygamy or rape not at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and a 100%+ one for that Jesus and Muhammad is not in the same religion or in any line of anything religiously essential.

    #####008 66/2a: "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases)- - -". According to other places in the Quran, the cases when you can break your oat without sinning, are:

    1. Oaths you have given without really meaning them.
    2. Oaths where you later see you will get a more satisfactory result if you break your oat. In serious cases, though, you should pay a "fine" - expiation - to Allah to be forgiven".
     

    Can anyone please tell us what remains of trustworthiness of a Muslim's words and oaths - especially when you add to this the al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and the Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc., and permitted betrayals? - and his point of view that "war is deceit" (and everything is war). And much worse in this case: WHAT REMAINS OF MUHAMMAD'S TRUSTWORTHINESS - NOT TO MENTION THE QURAN'S TRUSTWORTHINESS?

    ##009 66/2b: "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases)- - -". According to other places in the Quran, the cases when you can break your oat without sinning, are:

    1. Oaths you have given without really meaning them.
    2. Oaths where you later see you will get a more satisfactory result if you break your oat. In serious cases, though, you should pay a "fine" - expiation - to Allah to be forgiven".
     

    One of the at least 200% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus not in any line morally connected to Muhammad. NT tells you not to swear at all ( f.x. Matt. 5/34), and if you do it all the same, you have to keep your word.

    Yahweh and Allah the same god? Drop silly questions.

    003 68/1b: "By the Pen and by the (Record) - - -". An oath - sentences or expressions in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oats. Allah(?) is swearing. One of the clear indications for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god; according to the Bible you shall not swear at all (Matt. 5/34). And if you all the same do so, you shall honor your oath - whereas the Quran tells that some oaths does not matter at all (the ones you did not really mean), others can be broken if that will give a better result, whereas if you break the strong and serious ones, you have to pay expiation. This last part is one of the clear proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - the moral code was and is too deeply different.

    047 74/32b: "- - - by the Moon - - -". An oath - most sentences in the Quran starting with "by" are oaths. Just remember that in Islam oaths are not reliable, but easily can be broken "if that gives a better result", though sometimes you should pay expiation to Allah if the breach is too serious.

    But one more essential fact: That Allah is swearing is one more strong indication indications for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god; according to the Bible you shall not swear at all (Matt. 5/34). And if you all the same do so, you shall honor your oath - whereas the Quran tells that some oaths does not matter at all (the ones you did not really mean), others can be broken if that will give a better result, whereas if you break the strong and serious ones, you have to pay expiation (f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a+b, 16/91e, 16/92a+b, and 66/2a above).. This last part is one of the clear proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - the moral code was and is too deeply different.

    048 74/33: "- - - by the Night - - -". See 74/32b just above.

    049 74/34: "- - - by the Dawn - - -". See 74/32b above.

    034 76/12-13: "- - - (garments of) silk. Reclining in the (Garden) on raised thrones, they will see neither the sun’s (excessive heat) nor (the moon’s) excessive cold.” The Quran's Paradise is one of mainly bodily pleasures - here are a few of them. But one can ask what is the glory of endless rows of raised thrones and nothing to do but to eat and to have sex?

    But where is the sun excessively hot and the moon excessively cold? I the tropics, and especially in the desert - the sun hot for obvious reasons, the clear nights cold because in that clear and dry air, the ground fast loses heat to empty space. Did not Allah know that in other places conditions were different?

    Also remember that the many and deep differences between Yahweh's Paradise and the one of Allah are one of the strong proofs for that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradises had been one and the same one.

    040 76/14-21: More about the same details of the Earth-like and royal-royal paradise, but with the addition of a stuff called “zanjabil” (76/17) to mix in wine (the age of this surah is not known, and consequently we do not know if Allah had yet changed his view of alcohol), and a fountain “salsabil” (76/18). The first word may mean ginger, the second one nobody knows, though there is guessing. Once more the unclear language of the Quran.

    Also remember that the many and deep differences between Yahweh's Paradise and the one of Allah is one of the strong proofs for that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradises had been one and the same one.

    046 76/19b: "And around them (good Muslims in Paradise*) will (serve) youths - - -". This is one more case where the Quran differs totally from the Bible - there is not any likeness between the lives in the two paradises at all (f.x. Luke 20/34-36, not to mention: "For the Kingdom of God/Yahweh is not a matter of eating and drinking (or sex*) - - -", (Rom.14/17). And also not to mention: "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Mark 12/25)). Yahweh and Allah the same god with so different paradises? You bet! One of the at least - at least - 200% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. (Another question which lingers in the air: Homosexuality is officially condemned in Islam, but silently accepted at places - was this fact in the background when the description of these delicate young men was created?)

    053 76/22b: "Verily this (a royal, Earth-like luxury, included a big harem*) is a Reward for you (Muslims*) - - -". If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth. (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

    Also remember that the many and deep differences between Yahweh's Paradise and the one of Allah, are one of the strong proofs for that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same one.

    060 76/25-26: "- - - celebrate the name of your (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) morning and evening, and part of the night, prostrate thyself to Him (Allah*), and glorify Him (Allah*) a long night through". These big doses of glorification and servility demanded by Allah, is quite different from What Yahweh expects - respect and glorification ok, but not on total servility and in bucket-fulls more or less round the clock. One more clear indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

    Also remember that when the Quran claims Allah has no wants, this is wrong: He wants prayers, he wants glorification, he wants servility, he wants suppression of non-Muslims, he wants war. Etc.

    002 77/1a "By the winds - - -". An oath. Sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths - the Quran/Muhammad is swearing by something. Here he seems to be swearing by the wind (!) that verse 7 - "Assuredly, what ye (Muslims*) are promised (by Allah/Muhammad*) must come true" - will come true. Whenever the Quran swears - or in other ways promises - remember that according to the rules for al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc., it is permitted to lie to defend and to forward Islam (and for other topics), and that according to Muhammad's own words and deeds in the Quran, oaths should be broken if that will give a more satisfying result (f.x. 2/225a, 5/89a+b, 16/91, and 66/2 above).

    This also is one more clear indication for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad neither in the same line of prophets nor in the same religion, like Muhammad liked to claim in his Quran. Allah swears often and oaths are ok according to the Quran. It also is ok to break your oaths - if it is an oath you really have not meant, it does not matter if you break it. If it was a more serious one, it still is ok to break it if that gives a better result for you, but you may have to pay expiation for it. Yahweh and Jesus say you should not swear at all (Matt. 5/34), and if you all the same do it, you are obliged to honor it. This last is a clear proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion - the moral code is fundamentally too different.

    051 78/33: "Companions of Equal Age" - the famous houris. As mentioned, sex is not named in Paradise in the Quran, bur it all the same is a very essential part - - - for the men. In the entire Quran, in all the many Hadiths, in the entire Islamic literature, we have not seen one single word about how it feels for the houris to be sex toys for rough, uneducated, primitive warriors. And not one word about how it is for the wives to share their husbands with lots of likely much more beautiful women. Not one word. And also not one word about how perfect life is for the young servants in Paradise.

    Also you do not find the houris or sex in the Bible's and in Yahweh's paradise (the houris is an idea "borrowed" from the old Persian pagan religion). On the contrary: There you will be like the angels (Mark 12/25), and angels are not bent on sex. One more of the at least 200% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

    003 79/1b: "By the (angels) - - -". That Allah is swearing is one of the indications or proofs for that Yahweh and he are not the same god, not to mention Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion. According to the Bible, one shall not swear at all (Matt. 5/34). And if you do so all the same, you are bound by your oath, whereas Allah does not care very much (f.x. 34/3f above) except that if you break a serious oath, you should pay expiation afterwards. Not the same moral code at all. The last part of it is a strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

    003 85/1-3: "By - - -". In all these 3 verses Allah/Muhammad swears - 3 very clear indications for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad is not in the same line of anything of any consequence: Especially the NT very clearly states that you shall not swear at all (Matt 5/34), and it is clear that if you do so all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary (but to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed(!) oath if there is not a good reason. To break other oaths matters little, though). This part is a strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad do not belong to the same religion.

    002 86/1a: "By - - -". Here Allah/Muhammad swears - another very clear indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad is not in the same line of anything of any consequence: The NT very clearly states that you shall not swear at all (Matt 5/34), and it is clear that if you do so all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary (but to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed(!) oath if there is not a good reason. To break other oaths matters little). This last part is a very clear proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - as f.x. the moral code is too deeply different.

    005 90/4b: "Verily, We (Allah*) have created man - - -". Often claimed in the Quran - never proved anywhere. Like everything else in that book. But see 6/2b above.

    006 90/8-11: "Have He (Allah*) not made for him (man*) a pair of eyes? - and a tongue, and a pair of lips? - - - " See 11/7a above.

    002 91/1: "By the Sun - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the sun - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets, like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen", so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title).

    Also: In the Bible it is clear that if you swear all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary (but to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed(!) oath if there is not a good reason. To break other oaths matters little. This part is a strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad do not belong to the same religion - f.x. the moral codes fundamentally are too different.)

    004 91/1-7: "By - - -". A sentence in the Quran starting with "by" normally is an oath - here it seems that the Quran swears that the verses 9 and 10 are true. But whenever Muhammad or the Quran swears - or in other ways promises - remember that according to the rules for al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing) it is permitted to lie to defend and to forward Islam (and for 6 - 8 other wide topics, including for saving your money and for cheating women), and that according to Muhammad's own words and deeds in the Quran, even oaths should be broken if that will give a more satisfying result - pay expiation to Allah for it if necessary (f.x. 2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah can cheat, cheating is ok - but how much is then cheating in the Quran?) - clearly contradicted by the Bible.

    005 91/2a: "By the Moon - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the moon - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One more of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets, like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    007 91/3: "By the Day - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the day - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    011 91/5b: "By the Firmament - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the firmament - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    013 91/6b: "By the Earth - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the Earth - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    015 91/7b: "By the Soul - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the soul - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    002 92/1a: "By the Night - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the night - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed 2-12messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    Also: Especially the NT very clearly states that you shall not swear at all (Matt 5/34), and it is clear that if you do so all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary (but to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed(!) oath if there is not a good reason. To break other oaths matters little.) This last part is a very clear proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - as the moral code is too deeply different.

    ##003 92/1b: “By (start of an oath*) the Night as it conceals (the light) - - -”. Wrong - it is Earth which conceals the light and causes the night. Besides the night is just lack of light = nothing. And neither nothing nor lack of light can conceal light. Any deity knows this and the physical laws behind it - Muhammad not. Who made the Quran? (See 91/4).

    005 92/2: "By the Day - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the day - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    Also: Especially the NT very clearly states that you shall not swear at all (Matt 5/34), and it is clear that if you do so all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary (but to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed(!) oath if there is not a good reason. To break other oaths matters little.) This last part is a very clear proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - as the moral code is too deeply different.

    007 92/4a: "By (the mystery of) - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by a mystery - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    Also: Especially the NT very clearly states that you shall not swear at all (Matt 5/34), and it is clear that if you do so all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary (but to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed(!) oath if there is not a good reason. To break other oaths matters little.) This last part is a very clear proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - as the moral code is too deeply different.

    002 93/1: "By the Glorious Morning Light - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the light - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    002 93/1: "By the Glorious Morning Light - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the light - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    Also: Especially the NT very clearly states that you shall not swear at all (Matt 5/34), and it is clear that if you do so all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary (but to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed(!) oath if there is not a good reason. To break other oaths matters little.) This last part is a very clear proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - as the moral code is too deeply different.

    003 93/1-2: "By - - -". A sentence in the Quran starting with "by" normally is an oath - here it seems that the Quran swears that verse 3 is true. But whenever Muhammad or the Quran swears - or in other ways promises - remember that according to the rules for al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc., it is permitted to lie to defend and to forward Islam (and for 6 - 8 other topics), and that according to Muhammad's own words and deeds in the Quran, even oaths should be broken if that will give a more satisfying result - pay expiation to Allah afterwards if necessary.

    004 93/2: "And by the Night - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by the night - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    Also: Especially the NT very clearly states that you shall not swear at all (Matt 5/34), and it is clear that if you do so all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary (but to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed(!) oath if there is not a good reason. To break other oaths matters little.) This last part is a very clear proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - as the moral code is too deeply different.

    002 95/1: "By the fig and the olive - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by different things - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same Religion or line of prophets like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen" so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more gods have "borrowed" this title.

    Also: Especially the NT very clearly states that you shall not swear at all (Matt 5/34), and it is clear that if you do so all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary (but to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed

    003 95/1-3: "By - - -". A sentence in the Quran starting with "by" normally is an oath - here it seems that the Quran swears that verse 4 is true. But whenever Muhammad or the Quran swears - or in other ways promises - remember that according to the rules for al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc., it is permitted to lie to defend and to forward Islam (and for 6 - 8 other wide topics, f.x. to cheat women), and that according to Muhammad's own words and deeds in the Quran, oaths should be broken if that will give a more satisfying result - pay expiation to Allah afterwards if necessary. (Some oaths are not binding at all, and others only if you confirm them afterwards, but if you break a confirmed oath you should pay expiation afterwards, at least if the oath is about something serious).

    According to the Bible you should not swear at all, and if you all the same do so, you are absolutely bound by your oath. Not the same gods. Not the same religions.

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    It also is pretty thought provoking that f.x. all the errors, contradictions, wrong facts, etc., only and alone, in the Quran, prove 100% that there is no god behind that book. And that f.x. the fact that Jesus accepted OT as correct, proves to both Christians and Muslims that the OT was not falsified at that time - and that the Qumran scrolls prove that even OT was not falsified any time later, too.

    It further is an insult to that possible god to "explain" that his texts means something different from what they really says = you are more clever than him at explaining what the god "really" meant, than the god is himself, even when he tries to explain things "clearly and easy to understand", and says his words are to be understood literally and without hidden meanings. Also only "the sick of heart" look for hidden meanings behind his words, according to the Quran - the very claimed hidden meanings the wise Muslims claim are what Allah really meant, but was unable to express clearly himself, so that they have to help the bumbling god and tell what he "really" tried to say. This in spite of that the Quran clearly states that meanings hidden behind Allah's clear and easy to understand words, only are possible for Allah to understand, and like said above are "only for the sick of heart" to look for.

    May be as bad: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts clearly say, is to falsify the quranic texts.


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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".