Muhammad in the Quran, Vol. 3: Chapter 54


 

THE CARROT AND THE STICK

The combination of "carrots" and "sticks" is a psychological trick older than time itself. Read the Quran, and you will see that Muhammad used this very often. His "carrot" was promises of luxury and women in Paradise + promises of stolen riches, respect, slaves and women in this world. The "stick" was extrication or worse in this world and Hell in the next one. There are many cases in the Quran, but we show just some of them. Go looking in the Quran, and you will find more.

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001 2/74b: "And Allah is not unmindful of what ye (people*) do". This is a combined "carrot and whip" you find many places in the Quran in different forms: Allah sees everything and will reward the god and punish the bad (just remember that "god" and "bad" are in accordance with the Quran's partly immoral moral code).

But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but threat.)

002 2/85c: "For Allah is not unmindful of what ye (people*) do". The carrot and the stick - be good and obedient to Muhammad/Allah and go to Paradise, or be bad or disobedient to Muhammad and end in Hell. Remember here that "good" and "bad" is meant according to the Quran's partly immoral moral code - it f.x. was/is very good to steal/rob, extort, suppress, enslave, destroy and kill in the name of Allah for Muhammad/Allah, and give Muhammad his 20%, but very bad to refuse this. (Actually such misdeeds are even more disgusting when done in the name of and as a sermon/service to a god - and we do not tell what we mean about people or a religion calling this a good and benevolent god, as we do not use that kind of words).

003 2/98b: "Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - - lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith". Psychologically a good claim if Muhammad wanted followers and warriors - who wants to be friends of Allah's enemies? And of course enemies of Allah are ok and a good deed to rob and enslave and kill.

004 2/154a: “And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah: ‘They are dead’. Nay, they are living (and enjoy a luxury life with lots of sex in Paradise*) - - -.” Go to war – the worst which can happen to you is a quick way to a royal Earth-like life with a royal harem - see 10/9f below. (The possibility of becoming a war invalid is never mentioned - never).

005 2/158g: "- - - be sure that Allah is He Who recogniseth and knoweth." Another never proved claim - but a good whip for obedience for Muhammad.

006 2/177o: "- - - be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity - - -". This is a fact non-Muslims should never forget: ########Muslims are imprinted and imprinted and imprinted that if you keep going, you win in the end, if for no other reason than because the opponent tires and gives in. (One of the weak spots for democracy - there always are many who tire or for other reasons oppose what should have been done).

007 2/190a: "Fight in the cause of Allah - - -". A clear order. And a convenient order for Muhammad (and for his successors), as this here on Earth in reality meant "fight for Muhammad when he wants".

008 2/190d: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you - - -". This is nice on the paper and in propaganda. The reality is that practically all Muhammad's raids and wars were wars of aggression - included Badr, Uhud, and The Trench (battles of defense in a war of aggression started and kept alive by Muhammad's raiding of caravans, etc.). As far as we have been able to find out, this was the general picture all the way up through the history, until Europe became too strong for them. In addition: All the 4 law schools in Islam agreed on that the fact that an opponent - or not even an opponent, but a land Muslims wanted to conquer - was Pagan, was reason enough to declare Jihad = Holy War of Defense (theoretically Jihad only can be a war of defense, but the way Islam or at least a large percentage of Muslims define "defense", this restriction is just a joke - though convenient to use in debates and propaganda).

###009 2/191a: “And slay them (the non-Muslims*) wherever ye catch them - - -”. A straight, no-nonsense order - not to be misunderstood. Very good words for terrorists.

###010 2/191b: “And slay them (the non-Muslims*) wherever ye catch them - - -”. Incompatible with the Bible and especially with NT. There is not the same god behind two so different books.

011 2/191h: "- - - if they (non-Muslims*) fight you (Muslims*), slay them." Incompatible with especially NT - and one more proof for that Jesus did not represent the same god as Muhammad.

*012 2/191i: “- - - such is the reward (to be killed*) for those who suppress faith (Islam*)”. Honest words - and sugar for terrorists, especially as the terrorists themselves decide who are suppressors “in the widest meaning of the word”. Anyone who tells you the Quran has to be disused to incite to hate, war and terrorism - tell them to read the book just once (but without religious or political blindness). Strictly speaking: It is the ones who do not want war - included terrorism - who are wrong according to the Quran.

If non-Muslims dominate Muslim area - hate them and kill them, so Muslims can dominate and suppress and tax the survivors fair and just. The Muslim way of fair play?

##013 2/193a: "And fight them (non-Muslims*) until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah". More clear words for your money.

####014 2/216a: “Fighting is prescribed for you (Muslims*) - - -.” A more direct verbal incitement is difficult to find, unless it is accompanied by threats and/or promises of wealth, power/status and women – in this and/or the next life - - - like it is in the Quran.

###015 2/216b: “Fighting is prescribed for you (Muslims*) - - -.” Incompatible with the Bible. Incompatible with OT except for making and safeguarding a Jewish national territory, totally incompatible with NT except perhaps in sheer self defense. (Christians have sinned against this, but the Bible is clear: "You shall not kill".) Also incompatible with good moral codes.

***016 2/216c: “Fighting is prescribed for you (Muslims*), and ye dislike it.” Not all of his followers liked to go to war. (And you should remember that also today far from all Muslims like to go to war.)

017 2/216d: “- - - it is possible that ye dislike a thing (fighting*) which is good for you - - -.” Go to war – it is good for you whether you like it or not (implicit meaning; at least Allah will favor you in the next life.) Incitement with added incentives of looting, raping, and enslaving, etc.

018 2/216e: “- - - But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you (to fight in war*), and that you love a thing (peace*) that is bad for you.” No comments except a question: Did you ever meet a person telling that Islam is a peaceful religion? - "the Religion of Peace"? Did you in case ask him if Islam also is "the Religion of Honesty"?

019 2/216f: "- - - god for you - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like "good" and similar, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. Like here.

020 2/216g: "- - - bad for you - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

021 2/216i: “- - - Allah knoweth (what is good for you and whether you went to war or not*) - - -“. Incentive for war with added threat of punishment in the next life if not. And one point of some weight: Here on Earth it was Muhammad who told what Allah thought was wise and good.

022 2/217g: “Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter”. Unrest and oppression against the Muslims are no good - it is better that the Muslims in case kill the opponents (in this case it was about the old regime in Mecca - still not overrun - but other verses in the Quran make the order general. See 2/191a-d). Nice “food” for terrorists - the West is suppressing Muslims they say, and as everybody there pay taxes (not true - and the ones who do, have to) to their Islam-suppressing regimes, everybody is guilty, and deserves to be killed. Words are cheap, and it always is possible to twist reality enough to find what excuses you want.

023 2/218b: “- - - those (Muslims*) who suffered exile and fought (and strove and struggled) in the path of Allah - they have the hope of the Mercy of Allah: - - -”. Many of the first Muslims in Mecca had to flee from the town and had a rough time. But general meaning: Fight for Allah and be likely to go to Paradise (and if you are killed for Allah, you are sure to go there). That is to say: If Allah exists:

There exists a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, where it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. Actually that is part of a wider fact: It is not possible for humans to prove a god. This only a god can do (by doing something supernatural). And this is very clear: Neither Allah nor Muhammad produced a single proof for Allah, in spite of many requests. (But Jesus did give many proofs for Yahweh and for himself according to both the Quran and the Bible - if at least one of them speaks the truth.)

024 2/218c: “- - - those (Muslims*) who suffered exile and fought (and strove and struggled) in the path of Allah - they have the hope of the Mercy of Allah: - - -”. Especially as practically all Muhammad's raid and war were acts of aggression, this is incompatible with especially NT. (Perhaps war in self defense is permitted in NT. In OT this clearly is permitted, as was war to make room for a Jewish nation. In contrast Muhammad's and Muslims' raids and wars nearly always were acts of aggression for riches, captives, land, power and spreading Islam - f.x. most of Arabia and large areas outside Arabia were converted to Islam by the sword (and even more areas by different kinds of pressure backed by the sword).

025 2/233h: "But fear Allah and know that Allah sees well what ye do". This is the last resort; "You know that may be you can cheat us, but there is a god working together with us, and him you cannot cheat. Be good and obedient - and go to war - and he will reward you. Be disobedient or cheat, and he will punish you." This is a carrot and a stick - or a whip - which costs nothing for a leader, but which is efficient if the underlings believe in it - the ultimate means of total control and dictatorship. True or not does not matter - what counts is what the underlings believe.

But one impertinent question: If Allah knows everything and even predestines everything according to his own unchangeable Plan like the Quran frequently states, why - why - does he then need to test his followers, f.x. by sending them to war for Muhammad to may be become invalids or be killed? - if he knows everything, he cannot learn anything from testing them. There is no logic in it. And this even more so if Allah as said on top of all really predestines everything you do.

But if this was Muhammad who needed the carrot and the whip, the logic appears.

This kind of whip (and also the carrot) is much used by Muhammad in the Quran.

026 2/237d: "For Allah sees well what ye do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

The whip and the carrot in one sentence. The under lying claim is that Allah is behind the moral code etc, and you have to follow his rules. But no omniscient god is behind a book of a quality like the Quran, and no good and benevolent god is behind a moral code or laws like the dark parts of what you find in the Quran.

027 243c: "- - - Allah is full of bounty to mankind - - -". See 1/1a above.

###028 2/244d: “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah heareth and knoweth all things.” An order not possible to misunderstand + incitement + hint about reward for war and hint about punishment if you do not go to war. The religion of peace?

029 2/249e: “How oft, by Allah’s will, hath a small force vanquished a big one? Allah is with those who steadfastly persevere.” May be not exactly an incitement, but quite a pep-talk. And NB: It is used even today - and with an effect. The words are not from the Bible, though.

030 2/261a: "The parable of those who spend their substance in the way of Allah is that of a grain of corn (Americans; beware that here is not meant maize - this even more so as maize did not exist in "the old world" at that time): it grows seven ears, and each ear hath a hundred grains". There mainly are two ways to "spend in the way of Allah": To help the poor and to help the religion - included to wage war (war cost a lot, and even though you can get rich from looting, that is afterwards, whereas the expenses is before and during the war or raid - one simply needs money to start a war, even if one can steal much during and after the war). So spend of your money and get rich profit in the next life - if there is a next life, if Allah exists, and if the Quran in addition tells the full and only truth about everything. (If there is not a Muslim paradise, Muhammad got lots of money and warriors for his raids and wars for free - which is not unusual for self proclaimed prophets.) It must be added that this verse is a clever piece of work, if the intention was to get money and to recruit warriors - good psychology (Muhammad understood people).

031 2/269c: "- - - but none will grasp the Message (Islam*) but men with understanding". Flattery - and the whip: Of course I want to be a man of understanding, so I have to grasp it - at least to pretend so. The carrot: I have to grasp it, because I want to be a man of understanding. The threat: I cannot oppose, because then people will believe I am not a man of understanding. Good psychology - Muhammad understood human nature.

032 2/270a: "- - - be sure Allah knows it all". - and will reward you for it. The carrot - but also the whip. Also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

033 2/271c: "And Allah is well acquainted with what ye do". In this case the carrot. But also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

034 3/98e: "- - - Allah is Himself witness to all ye do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

#####035 3/110a: “Ye (Muslims*) are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind - - -”. It is not possible to disbelieve that Muslims are the top of existing humans and human societies, as the Quran says so - and not one believing Muslim seems to be aware of how cheap words are. It also is strengthening the picture of non-Muslims as vermin or at least sub-human. In North Pakistan some time ago there was a debate: Has a non-Muslim half the value of a Muslim or less?

##036 3/111a: "They (non-Muslims*) will do you no harm, barring a trifling annoyance, if they come out to fight you, they will show you their backs, and no help will they get”. The Quran's insistence on and romancing of war, is one of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are two different gods (if they exist). Especially the contrast to NT and its new covenance (= the teachings of Jesus) is staggering.

037 3/111b: "They (non-Muslims*) will do you no harm, barring a trifling annoyance, if they come out to fight you - - -". Pep-talk: Non-Muslims are no good warriors - do not be afraid when fighting them.

*038 3/111c: “- - - if they (the People of the Book = mainly Jews and Christians*) come out to fight you, they will show you their backs, and no help will they get”. Pep talk for warriors. Far from always true, as history has shown and shows.

039 3/124b: “Is it not enough for you (Muslims in battle*) that Allah should help you with three thousand angles (specially) sent down?” Pep talk to warriors referring to the battle of Badr, which Muhammad claimed was won because Allah sent down 3ooo angels who fought together with the Muslims - Allah helps you in battle with angle warriors. Morals counts in battle, and battle was essential for Muhammad at this time, though in 625 AD he might also think about defense against Mecca - they might again attack to stop his robbing their caravans, etc. But except for real defense: Why does an omnipotent god have to bring his followers to war to strengthen his position? If it was Muhammad who wanted more power and more riches to use for bribes and more power - and women - the logic is easy to understand, but an omniscient god - - -?

Another point: Angels cannot be good warriors if Allah needed 3ooo in addition to the 300 Muslims to fight off the Meccans.

040 3/125c: "- - - if you (Muslims*) remain firm - - -". Time and again and again the Quran tells that if the Muslims just persevere, the "enemy" grows tired in the end and the Muslims win. Far too often this has proved correct, a fact all non-Muslims growing tired should remember. This especially the democracies, as they have problems when a fight lasts for a long time - there always are many voices wanting out of the struggle, as they see the short-time gain but not the long-time loss possible.

041 3/125e: “- - - your (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah) would help you with five thousand angles (specially) sent down?” Pep talk. See 3/124a-c above.

042 3/136e: "- - - how excellent a recompense (Paradise*) is for those who work (and strive) (good Muslims*)!" If Allah exists. If he is behind what Muhammad told. And if what Muhammad told in the Quran is the full and only truth about this. One should also remember that the Islamic Paradise mainly offers bodily satisfaction and luxury - not very inventive for an omniscient god (in the Bible it is told the Christians will become like angels - f.x. Matt. 22/30).

043 3/138c: "Here (in the Quran*) is - - - a guidance and instruction to those who fear Allah". And a central instruction is: "Wage war for Allah and for Muhammad".

###044 3/139a: "- - - ye (Muslims*) must gain mastery if ye are true in Faith." No comments. Except: The declared goal for Islam is world dominance and suppression of all non-Muslims - - - and extra tax - jizya - "with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (9/29).

045 3/140a: “If a wound hath touched you (Muslim warrior*), be sure a similar wound hath touched the others (the enemy*)”. Pep-talk. Keep the warriors bent on fighting on. A peaceful religion. Very different from especially NT.

046 3/145a: “Nor can a soul die except by Allah’s leave - - -". One of the many, many never documented claims in the Quran. Muhammad never was able to prove anything at all about his claimed god or his own claimed connection to him.

Another point is that according to the Bible souls cannot die - the body can, but not the soul.

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###047 3/145b: “Nor can a soul die except by Allah’s leave, the term being fixed as by writing”. Wage war - you die when your term comes and not before, no matter what you are doing. The for Muhammad most essential side of predestination? It is easy by means of statistics to show the claim is wrong, but right or wrong does not matter much in cases of blind belief. But one thing is clear: Any man as intelligent as Muhammad did know this was a lie.

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048 3/148a: “And Allah gave them (the warriors) a reward in this world (and will consequently give it to you if you fight bravely*) and the excellent reward of the Hereafter”. 80% of the spoils of war - included slaves and women - were for the warriors and their leaders (the remaining 20% were for Allah/Muhammad/the religious leaders - which soon also became political leaders). Women made slaves were fun, because to rape female slaves was your right and no sin. In addition: To do battle for Islam was - and is - a “heavy” application for Paradise, and a sure way to get there no matter what kind of life you have led, if you are killed in battle for Islam (which soon also meant - and means - an easy way for the leaders to recruit warriors). But it is a strange fact that leaders never become suicide bombers.(The Quran tells that suicide is a sin deserving Hell (is this told - or "explained" away to the suicide bombers?) + perhaps the leaders do not like to die yet?)

049 3/151a: “Soon shall We (Allah*) cast terror into the heart of the unbelievers - - -.” Of course. One more good pep-talk. And a bit different from "turn the other cheek" in the Bible.

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####050 3/154e: “Even if you had remained in your homes, those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death (anyhow*).” This is the "manifest" of predestination. And: This also is one of the points in the Quran where Muhammad knew he was lying. It is so obviously wrong, that an intelligent man like him knew this was not true. But he was a clever manipulator (“is it not more worth that I live among you, and spend the booty on the people not sure in their belief to make them stay in Islam?” f.x.) and he understood people. Lies like this worked because his followers were primitive and in addition wanted to believe. And for primitive, uneducated souls really believing mish-mash like this (it is easy to prove by statistics that it is untrue, if one are un-intelligent enough not to see at once that it is a lie) it was a mighty incitement – fighting in battles was not dangerous, because Allah had decided when you were to die, and at that time you would die whether you were in a battle or sleeping in your bed. It is worth noticing that even today this is the official point of view of Islam. To quote footnote 3/119 to this surah in “The Message of the Quran” (translated from the Swedish 2006 edition - not found in the English 2008 edition):

“(The) incorrect, heathen belief that humans by acting in special ways can avoid death (even for a time*)”.

Unbelievable!!

Today it as said is easy to prove by statistics that it is very wrong - but Muhammad did not know about statistics (and a god had not even needed statistics to know it was stupidity). On the other hand this claim is so contra all logic, that this as said is one of the points where Muhammad knew he was lying - he was too intelligent to believe in this. Actually Islam today back-pedals very much concerning predestination telling f.x. that the Quran does not mean real predestination (but not explaining what they claim it means). But in some cases the book is so clear, that it is impossible to explain it away.) f.x. many places connected to statements that when your time is out, you will die anyhow, and therefore you can as well go to war.

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051 3/155a: “Those of you who turned back on the day the two hosts met (300 men left Uhud before the battle, leaving 700 to fight, according to Islamic sources*) - it was Satan who caused them to fail, - - -.” It is Satan who makes you not want to do or be too afraid to take part in battles - do you want to be a friend of Satan? A mighty incitement for fighting for Muhammad and Islam (or sometimes for leaders using or disusing the religion for personal gain or power - like money and slaves for bribes, women for personal use and above all power).

052 3/155c: "- - - it was Satan who caused them (the ones don't wanting to fight*), because of some (evil) they had done". In plain language: They were punished for some sin by not wanting to take part in the battle. Some punishment! Some religion! Not to say quite a "religion of peace"!!

053 3/156d: “Be not like the unbelievers, who say of their brethren - - - engaged in fighting: ‘If they had stayed with us, they would not have died or been slain’”. A clear message: Be of better quality and go to war.

##054 3/157a: “And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of Allah - - -". But is it really in the way of Allah, when the Quran is not from any god, included Allah?

##055 3/157b: “And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass”. Nearly no matter how bad a man (nothing is said about women) you have been, to be killed for Allah, is the sure way to go to Paradise. A mighty - and cheap - way to get warriors.

The old Vikings “knew” that if they were killed in battle, they went to Valhalla - that made them ferocious warriors. In Islam the sure way to Paradise with its lazy luxury life and plenty of women, had and has the same effect.

There are two questions, though: Who decides which wars are wanted by Allah? - if you look at history, it seems that a lot of the wars Muslims have fought, in reality were for wealth and power, but mostly they all the same have been declared Holy Wars, a few times even by both sides when both parts were Muslims. And: What if the Quran is invented or not telling the full truth? - all the mistakes and contradictions, etc. in the book make one wonder (or stronger). At least no god makes such a quality book. If the Quran is not from a god, this promise of Paradise also is not true.

In the wars between Sunni and Shi’ia and in power struggles among leaders, a lot of warriors have been cheated - both parts in a war between Muslims cannot be fighting for Allah and the “right” belief, but all warriors on both sides often were told they fought against enemies of Allah. If at least one part was right, the warriors from the opposite part had a rude awakening in Hell, even if they were told and believed they were fighting enemies of Allah. Not to mention when all was a struggle for power among leaders, and Allah did not agree at all that any of them were fighting for him - they only were sinning by killing fellow Muslims “without a good reason”, which is a grave sin worthy of Hell.

And even worse: If the Quran is made up or does not tell the truth on this point, no comment is necessary. Especially not if there exists another, true religion somewhere - a religion Muslims are prohibited to look for. Where will the Muslims end in case if there is a next life?

Another point is that to forgive - or for that case to punish or reward or fulfill prayers - means for Allah to change his Plan considering the sinner/person, something which according to the Quran is something nobody and nothing can make him do. See 2/187d above.

##056 3/158a: “And if ye die, or are slain, lo! It is unto Allah that ye are brought together”. Be killed in war for Allah, and go to paradise - good “knowledge” for a warrior or terrorist. Whoever said the Quran has to be disused to justify terrorism, hardly ever read the Quran - or uses an al-Taqiyya (a lawful lie - this "convenient" Islamic only phenomenon). See also 3/157b above.

057 3/167c: "- - - fight in the way of Allah - - -". That the raids and wars were and partly are made in the name of the god, make them even more detestable, especially as most of them were raids and wars of aggression - mainly for riches, slaves and power - and for spreading Islam by means of the sword directly and indirectly.

058 3/167d: "- - - fight in the way of Allah - - -". Verses like this - and there are many of them in the Quran - are more or less the antithesis to NT. Yahweh and Allah the same god? You only need two letters for the answer "no".

**059 3/169a: “Think not of those who are slain in Allah’s way as dead. Nay, they live - - - in the presence of their Lord (Allah*)”. What better can a warrior ask for? - and thinking like that, they made - and make - cheap soldiers for Muslim leaders. But what if Muhammad made it all up? - at least no god made the Quran with that many mistakes, etc. So where will all the Muslims in reality end if there is a next life?

##060 3/169b: “Nay, they (dead Muslim warriors*) live - - - in the presence of their Lord (Allah*)”. One more of the very many cases in the Quran where one has to say: If Allah exists. If Allah really is a god. If Allah is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran tells the full and only truth on this point.

061 3/170a: "They (killed Muslim warriors*) rejoice (in Paradise*) in the Bounty provided by Allah*. If Allah exists. If Allah is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran tells the full and only truth on this point. Also see 3/170b and 10/9f below.

062 3/170b: “They (the ones killed in war*) rejoice in the Bounty of Allah (an Earth-like luxury life + plenty of women – how that life is for the women, is of no consequence* - not worth even one question in all the Quran and all the Hadiths or anywhere else in Islamic literature we have seen) - - - (and*) the (martyrs) glory in the fact that on them is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve.” Psychologically a very good way for a leader to tackle and to prepare his followers for the fact that some warriors were going to die in the wars. There were little cause for sorrow and little cause for blaming the leader. But to be able to believe in this, take lots of naivety, blind belief and wishful thinking - just naivety is not enough.

##063 3/170c: The family and others left behind by dead warriors, have no reason to grieve - their dear one - the warrior - is in Paradise. Yes - if it really was a war for Allah, and not for power or riches for some leader. And if the Quran speaks the truth on this point at least. And if Allah is an existing god. And if f.x. if children without fathers find the situation attractive.

064 3/170d: "- - - (martyrs) - - -". All Muslims killed in war, are martyrs, no matter if it is a war of aggression or not, or even simply a raid for money and slaves – Muhammad made many such ones and called all of them jihads. It is like if the Christians should call everybody dead in a war with religious contents - f.x. the 30 Years War in Europe (1618-1648 AD) martyrs - or actually in all wars, as more or less all wars Muslims are involved in, are called jihads - "holy wars". Normally only innocent persons or persons killed in very special circumstances are martyrs. ###Wars of aggression, raids for stealing/robbing, etc. extremely seldom give martyrs in normal religions.

065 3/171a: “They (the “martyrs”*) glory in the grace and the Bounty (silver and brocade and women*) from Allah - - -”. The ultimate pep talk: Your son or husband or father is dead and you will never see him again, and he will never help you if you need - but he is in heaven according to a book with hundreds of mistakes, and told by a man with a very dubious morality.

066 3/172b: "- - - those who answered the call of Allah (for fighting*) and the Messenger (Muhammad*), even after being wounded - - -". This is one of the few places in the Quran where the 3. alternative; to be wounded is mentioned - normally only "the two glorious" alternatives victory and death (= Paradise according to the Quran) are mentioned. And here it is not mentioned as a possible outcome of a fight, but mentioned only to glorify the ones who fight on even if they are wounded. "The Religion of Peace"!??

067 3/172c: “Of those who answered the call of Allah and the Messenger even after being wounded - - - have a great reward.” No further comments, except that Muhammad needed only fighting warriors, and he seems to want to use his resources to the outmost.

068 3/195d: “- - - those who have - - - fought or been slain – verily, I (Allah*) will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into Gardens - - -.” An unbeatable and cheap incitement for recruiting real believers to war: Be killed in war and go directly to Paradise no matter what great a sinner you have been before.

It definitely is no proved verity/truth.

069 4/42g: "- - - never will they (not good Muslims* and non-Muslims*) hide a single fact for Allah." Such - never proved - claims are good comfort for Muslims; "they" will be punished. They also are good whips for Muhammad and his successors - "behave, or Allah will punish you". And if Islam is a made up religion: It was and is good and cheap words for Muhammad and for his successors.

070 4/66b: "(To go to war and*) sacrifice their (Muslims'*) lives - - - would have gone farthest to strengthen their (faith)". A paradox if Islam claims to be "the religion of peace".

*071 4/67a: “And We (Allah*) should then have given them (the ones reluctant to give their lives, see 4/66a) from Our Presence a great reward (if they went to war*)”. One of the many incitements to war for a claimed good and peaceful god or religion or prophet. Sometimes we feel that the ugly West may be after all have a better moral philosophy and ethics - sometimes to say the least of it. And may be a more human god, even though it is politically correct to dismiss and slander him.

One of the strong proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad neither were in the same religion, nor in the same line of prophets (in addition to that it is impossible to be in the same line of prophets if they do not represent the same god).

##072 4/71b: “O ye who believe! Take your precautions, and either go forth (in war*) in parties or go forth all together”. Be strong when you attack. "The religion of peace"? On the contrary - Islam is a typical religion of war. The only reason why this Islamic slogan is not dead long time ago, is that non-Muslims do not know the Quran well enough to laugh from that claim. (But beware that many Muslims also do not know the book well enough or are too indoctrinated, and are unable to see the hypocrisy - or al-Taqiyya (lawful lie) - in the claim. They simply and honestly believe it!)

##073 4/71c: “O ye who believe! Take your precautions, and either go forth (in war*) in parties or go forth all together”. You find nothing like this in NT (and like in the Quran the newer parts normally supersedes the older ones). One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, not to mention Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

*074 4/74a: “Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter”. If you are willing to exchange your life here on Earth for a future life in Paradise, you should be permitted to - and qualified to - wage war for Allah. (Only let us hope you are not cheated. If something is wrong in the Quran - and at least a huge number of facts and much of the logic are wrong, etc. - you may be in for quite a surprise if there is a next life. Not to mention what a rude awakening you will have if Islam is a dreamed-up religion, and there is another religion which is true. But in the meantime Muslim leaders have a cheap source for power, warriors and terrorists).

075 4/74c: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - - -". Notice that the Quran never talks about the 3. alternative: The ones who becomes invalids. In any non-atomic battle there normally are to the size of 10 wounded for each killed. A good percentage of these will be so seriously hurt, that they never regain their health, and become a burden to their families instead of a plus. The book also never mentions the situation for families and children who have to live on with an invalid - or dead - father. May be Allah forgot this alternative?

076 4/74d: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give him a reward of great (value) (= Paradise*)”. What can be a better reward - - - if it is true? And what can be a cheaper way for leaders to get warriors, than promises of payment in the next life? - especially if the religion is made up (and remember that this is likely, as the Quran with all its mistakes is from no god) and the Quran's paradise thus does not exist.

But if Yahweh and Jesus rule the perhaps next life, good Muslims will not find that the gate to Heaven opens automatically. And likely the same if other gods rule - the Quran is a bit too immoral and too inhuman for most religions.

077 4/74e: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give him a reward of great (value) (= Paradise*)". Guess if this is a contradiction to NT!!! Yahweh and Allah the same god? You NEVER find things like this in NT - NEVER - and not even in OT (there they fought for (establishing) their country). One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and definitely also that Jesus and Muhammad do not belong to the same religion - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

078 4/74f: "- - - a reward of great (value)". Paradise - a cheap reward for Muhammad, especially if Islam just is a made up religion.

But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

079 4/75a: “And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah - - -?" The most clear-cut reason is that all the mistakes in the Quran make it clear that something is seriously wrong + it makes it as clear that there is no god behind the book - no god makes such and so many errors. And when there is no god behind a religion, you do not fight for a god if you go to war.

080 4/75c: “And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Men, women and children (crying for help and rescue*) - - -.” Muhammad’s version of the glorious hero on the white horse - and "forgetting" to add "- and power and riches for Muhammad". Another inciting dream "pushed" by good psychology - claimed help to women and children is a good motif.

081 4/76i: “- - - fight ye against the friends of Satan - - -“. Of course you want to do that – and of course all non-Muslims are friends of Satan. Hate mongering. There is more like this in the Quran.

###082 4/89d: “But if they (the ones not believing strongly enough in the Quran and in Muhammad*) turn renegades (= leave Islam*), size them and slay them: and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their rank”. Two quotes from the New Testament: “Love your enemies”, “You shall not kill”. The ones believing Allah and Yahweh is the same god, have to study psychology.

Jesus and Muhammad definitely were not in the same religion or serving the same god. This even more so as no dead person can change to the "right" religion in older age - in "the 11.th hour".

##### 083 4/89-90a: "But if they (Muslims*) turn renegades (leave/oppose Islam*), seize them and slay them wherever you find them; and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks; Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining from fighting you as well as fighting their own people." Background for the sharia laws.

###### 084 4/89-90b: "But if they (Muslims*) turn renegades (leave/oppose Islam*), seize them and slay them wherever you find them; and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks; Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining from fighting you as well as fighting their own people." Such killing is totally opposed by the moral rules in NT - totally. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad thus not in the same religion - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

##085 4/91b: "- - - seize them (unreliable non-Muslims*) and slay them wherever you (Muslims*) get them - - -.” Whoever believes NT and the Quran is from the same god, has never seen a Bible - let alone opened one. One more of the clear proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

086 4/91c: "- - - We (Allah*) have provided you (Muslims*) with a clear argument against them (non-Muslims you do not rely on*)". And the clear argument is: If you do not trust them, kill them - and how many non-Muslims do f.x. extremist Muslims rely on? The Quran and NT from the same god? You bet!!

087 4/94b: "When ye (Muslims*) go abroad in the cause of Allah (here: To wage war - this expression often in the Quran is synonymous with waging war*) - - -". When you go abroad for waging war, it normally is a war of aggression, not of defense - and this so definitely was the case for Islam, too. It is symptomatic that nearly all raids and wars of Muhammad, were wars of aggression - but named jihad (holy war) anyhow. Even the battles of Badr, Uhud and the Trench in reality were battles in a war of aggression started and kept alive by Muhammad's raids for wealth against Mecca's caravans, etc.

088 4/94c: "When ye (Muslims*) go abroad in the cause of Allah (here: To wage war - this expression often in the Quran is synonymous with waging war*) - - -". To go abroad to fight in the cause of the god is unheard of in OT and strongly contradicted by the thinking and moral rules in NT. One more of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

089 4/94d: “Say not (warrior during raid/war*) to anyone who offers you salution: ‘Thou art none of a believer!” – coveting the perishable goods of this life - - -.” Most of Arabia and many other places were turned Islamic in this way – people became Muslims to save life and what they owned. But some were not believed or pretended not to be believed, so that the warriors could steal – or kill or rape – as they wished. It is told in the Hadiths that Muhammad disliked cases where the victims said they were Muslims and all the same were killed - this verse may - may - be a try to stop such cases.

But it is thought provoking that the rule only was and is for Muslim victims - anyone else you can kill to steal his property or enslave his family (enslavement is more difficult today, but ok in the Quran).

090 4/94e: "- - - with Allah are profits and spoils abundant". Fight wars for Allah and get profits and spoils aplenty! Stealing/robbing, raping, enslaving, was an essential part of raids and wars for many of the warriors - and leaders. Compare this to NT and the New Covenant, and not even weeping can express the abyss between the religions. The same god?

And not to forget: #### Here it is no doubt neither about that it is permitted to steal in the name of Allah, nor about that the Quran uses this as an attraction - then and now and forever.

091 4/94f: "- - - with Allah are profits and spoils abundant". One more sentence which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition. Also Jesus was very far from this kind of immoral.

##092 4/95a: “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive in the cause of Allah with their goods and their person". Background for the sharia laws.

##093 4/95b: “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive in the cause of Allah with their goods and their person. Allah hath granted a grad higher to those who strive with their goods and their persons”. Clear words: Go to war or terrorism and end in a better part of Paradise - there are at least 4 or 6 different qualities of Gardens there + the higher heavens according to the Quran. Incitement “de luxe”.

##094 4/95c: “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive in the cause of Allah with their goods and their person." You find nothing similar to this in the Bible. In OT the Jews fought to gain a country and later to defend it, in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

095 4/95d: "- - - strive in the cause of Allah - - -". In the Quran this expression normally means to wage war on claimed behalf of Allah and Muhammad and later leaders.

096 4/95e: "- - - strive in the cause of Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible - in OT the Jews fought to gain a country and later to defend it, in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

097 4/95f: "Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive (fight*) with their goods and persons than those who sit (at home)". Strongly contradicted by especially in NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

#098 4/95g: “Unto all (in Faith (= all Muslims*)) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by special reward -.” Are any comments necessary? - except f.x. compare this to NT. The Quran is war and murder. Compare it to the pacifistic and anti-war NT or f.x. Buddhism!

What a nice verse for a terrorist!

But what if the Quran is a made up book? - by man or dark forces? (with all its mistakes, etc. it is not from any god). Where will Muslims end if there is a next life?

#099 4/95h: “Unto all (in Faith (= all Muslims*)) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by special reward -". But what is such a promise worth unless Allah exists and is a powerful god?

But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.) And there is a similar problem for prayers.

#100 4/95i: “Unto all (in Faith (= all Muslims*)) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by special reward -". Strongly contradicted by especially in NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and one of those many proofs which each alone proves this. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

101 4/95+96a: “- - - those who strive hath Allah distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward – Ranks specially bestowed by Him (Allah*), and Forgiveness (for anything if you are killed in battle*) and Mercy.” No doubt who is the best Muslim and what is the best deed in Islam – the warrior and the war are most pleasing to Allah. (To call Islam “The religion of peace” is an insult to the intelligence of everybody who has read the surahs from Medina with an open mind.)

As for forgiveness see 2/187d above.

102 4/95+96b: “- - - those who strive hath Allah distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward – Ranks specially bestowed by Him (Allah*), and Forgiveness (for anything if you are killed in battle*) and Mercy.” The total and 180 degree difference from NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and one of those many proofs which each alone proves this.

But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

103 4/104a: "And slacken not in following up the enemy - - -". The religion of peace (!!). (Compare it to NT: Forgive your enemy.)

104 4/100f: "- - - his (dead Muslim warrior*) reward becomes due and sure with Allah - - -". This only is possible if Allah exists and if he really is a god - there only are the words of a not reliable man seeking power for both.

But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.) And there is a similar problem for prayers.

105 4/104b: "And slacken not in following up the enemy - - -". Absolutely contradicted by NT. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and in addition there are all the other proofs. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

106 4/141b: “And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers”. Go to war – in the long run you are sure to win. The development seemed to justify this verse for Muslims for 110 years - they lost battles, but hardly ever a war, at least not as they stormed westwards. Not until they lost the war in France against Carl Martell (battle of Tours in 732 AD). That made an impression - at least for some - and for a time made some doubt the infallibility of the Quran. The same effect - and stronger - one got over the losses against the west during the 1800s and early 1900. Allah - why did he not let Muslims win?

But the verse is meant as pep talk. And an efficient pep talk it really is. Most active Muslims expect to win total power on Earth sooner or later in accordance with Allah’s/Muhammad’s word.

Will it be like living in Saudi Arabia, Algeria, North Pakistan, Libya, Ethiopia, or Iran nowadays? Or Afghanistan?

107 5/8f: "- - - fear Allah. For Allah is well acquainted with all that ye do". The carrot and the stick: Be good and be obedient and Allah will like you, be bad or disobedient and Allah will punish you. Efficient if the religion is a true one. Efficient for Muhammad and later leaders for keeping the people in line also if Islam is a made up religion. You meet similar sentences many places in the Quran.

108 5/35f: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b just above*) in His (Allah’s*) cause: that you may prosper.” Fight for Allah (and Muhammad) – then you may get a prosperous life. The alternative - death - was glorious. The alternative war cripple is never - not once - mentioned in the Quran. Only the "two glorious fates": Rich from stealing/loot or dead and in Paradise. 20-30-40 years as a cripple dependant on others or as a beggar because you were too much hurt to work - may be in pain - such alternatives are never mentioned. The same for what about your children and your family if you are crippled or killed.

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####109 5/35g: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b just above*) in His (Allah’s*) cause - - -”. For us this is one of the most detestable points in the entire Quran and Islam: Fight and steal and rob and mutilate and rape and enslave and hate and murder and suppress in the name of your god - a claimed good and benevolent god.

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110 5/54d: "- - - a people (Muslims*) He (Allah*) will love as they will love Him - lowly with the believers, mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the Way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproaches of such as find fault". A mighty pep-talk for warfare. But the same god as you meet in NT and even in OT? - hopeless. One of the 120% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion (not to mention line of prophets)

And: Allah can love no-one unless he exists - and with little consequence unless he in addition is a god. Besides - how lovely is the love of a god of war?

111 5/56f: "- - - the Fellowship of Allah that must certainly triumph". Pep-talk. Besides at least that Muslims "must certainly" triumph" is wrong.

112 5/97h: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with all things." This is another of Muhammad's mantras, and which served him well: Behave yourself - and obey Muhammad - or Allah sees you and will punish you. Ok if true. Good psychology from a leader liking power if the Quran is made up. Also see 3/77b above.

113 5/120a: This verse in reality is a repetition of one of Muhammad's mantras: Be good and obedient - also to Muhammad - and Allah will reward you. Be bad and disobedient - also to Muhammad - and Allah will punish you.

But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

114 6/119c: "Thy Lord (Allah*) knows best those who transgress". Just a reminder: Watch your steps or Allah will punish you. But also see 2/233h above.

115 8/16a: “If any (Muslim warrior*) do turn his back to the (the enemy*) on such a day (during battle) - - - he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell - - - “. Fight for Allah and Muhammad or end in Hell. One verse is the carrot, this one the whip. War is a central part of the life and the religion - - - "the Religion of Peace"!!! (This claim is a joke for anyone who really has read the Quran).

116 8/41d: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” Which means that 80% is for the warriors and leaders in the war – an economical incentive which for many a poor man counted much more than the religion – war and terror = good business. Many became well-to-do, many became rich, and some became very rich – and were dream models for new generations of robber warriors and robber barons. But Muslims and Islam never mentions the cost in destruction and destroyed lives which were the price millions had to pay for this unjust prosperity of the robbers and destroyers. It frequently took (the surviving) locals 100-200 years and more just to regain their standard of life, not to mention freedom. The warriors of the good and benevolent god of “the Religion of Peace” frequently mass murdered and massacred and enslaved “en gross” – and stole everything. Jerusalem f.x. got a hunger catastrophe after being occupied in 638 AD - the Muslims stole everything, included the food.

117 8/44b: “And remember when ye met (in battle at Badr*), He (Allah*) showed them to you as few in your eyes, and He made you appear as contemptible in their eyes - - -.” Remember – because this Allah may do the next time, too, and you will win like at Badr. Comforting to know.

118 8/59a: This verse is pep-talk.

#119 8/60a: “Against them (the unbelievers*) make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, included steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies (and Muhammad’s enemies*) - - -.” Inside information from “the Religion of Peace”.

We may add the ####modern Muslim point of view (YA1226): "It is your duty to be ready against all, for the sacred Cause under whose banner you are fighting". (YA1227): Be always ready to put your resources (wealth and life*) into your Cause. You will not do so in vain. Allah's reward will come in various forms. He knows all, and His reward will always be more generous than you can possibly deserve". (YA1228) "It (fighting for Islam*) should be a joyful duty not for itself, but to establish the reign of peace and righteousness (remember here that words like this is used in accordance with the Quran's partly immoral moral code*) and Allah's Law". There is more like this. Also today Islam really is "the Religion of Peace".

120 8/60b: "- - - strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies - - -). Compare this to NT: "Turn the other cheek" (if someone strikes you on the cheek, do not take revenge, but turn the other cheek towards him), an "Love your enemies and pray for them" (f.x. Matt.5/43-48).

121 8/60d: "- - - and others beside (other enemies of Allah or of you*), whom ye may not know - - -". YA (comment YA 1226): "There are always lurking enemies whom you may not know, but whom Allah knows. It is your duty to be ready against all, for the sacred Cause under whose banner you are fighting". There always are non-Muslims wanting to attack you, so always beware and be prepared for war with the untrustworthy unbelievers (NB: "the untrustworthy unbelievers", not "the untrustworthy of the unbelievers"). And remember: These comments are not written around 650 AD, but in modern times - they represent today's thinking of (many of) today's influential Muslims.

NB: ALSO REMEMBER THAT FEW IF ANY CULTURES ARE AS PRONE TO MAKE UP AND SO FILLED WITH CONSPIRATION THEORIES AND RESULTING MADE UP "KNOWLEDGE", AS THE MUSLIM ONES. THIS MAY BE A REASON WHY ISLAM AND MUSLIMS "SEE" "ENEMIES" AND "ATTACKS" ALL AROUND, AND CLAIM AND SOMETIMES HONESTLY BELIEVE THEY "HAVE THER RIGHT AND DUTY" TO "DEFEND" THEMSELVER OR THE RELIGION = F.X. BY LAUNCHING TERROR ATTACKS (REMEMBER THAT WAR IS A PRIVELEGE AND A DUTY IN ISLAM) AGAINST WHOMEVER THEY THINK IS AN EASY TARGET.

122 8/60e: “Whatever (money, time or your life*) ye shall spend in the Cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly”. Resources counts – for you to go to Paradise, for Muhammad (and Allah) to be able to make war. And warriors like you count – for you to gain loot or be sure to go to Paradise, for Muhammad (and Allah? – an omnipotent god really should not need war and mass murder and inhumanities? – especially not a good god,) to be able to make war and gain riches for f.x. “oiling” (bribes), and power and followers for his religion and platform of power.)

123 8/65c: “O Prophet! (Allah says*) Rouse the Believers to the fight.” Some words for a presumably good and peaceful god. And some task for a god and perfect kind man representing and the great idol of a religion insisted to be a good, human and peaceful one - "the Religion of Peace"(!).

124 8/65g: “If there are twenty amongst you (Muslim warriors*), patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred (non-Muslims*), if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are people without understanding”. A good pep talk, at least to blind believers. During the civil war in USA the South said something similar - but lost the war. But the Quran is right on one point: Non-Muslims tends not to understand the fanatic and fatalistic way of thinking impressed on Muslim warriors and terrorists - they go on and on and refuse to give in. On the other hand Japanese soldiers were just like that during WWII, but they all the same totally lost the war - even Americans were able to learn.

*125 8/65h: You often see claimed that this verse is abrogated by 8/66. But 8/65 is generally speaking, whereas 8/66 is "For the present - - -". For the present Allah has lightened your task. An exception, not an abrogation. If you hunt for abrogations, beware of this: An exception given at the same time and in connection to a statement, is an exception, not an abrogation. But if the exception is found another place or is from another time - normally afterwards - it often is an abrogation. There are plenty of both contradictions and abrogations - you do not have to use for abrogations the ones which in reality only are exceptions meant as part of the meaning there and then.

126 8/65-66: Pure pep-talk and war propaganda.

129 8/66b: “- - - but (even so (even if Allah has lightened the fight for you - by sending angle warriors?*)) if there are a hundred of you, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah - - -”. Another pep talk, and somewhat more realistic than 8/65e above. Besides: If you lose, know that is was not the enemy who was too strong for you, but Allah in his unfathomable wisdom who wanted it like that. (And Allah always has a good reason leading to a final victory).

But why cannot an omnipotent god just decide how he wants things to be and make it like that? Why does a presumably good and kind and loving and benevolent and omnipotent god have to let humans live through so much blood and murder and hate and rape and misery? Something in the Quran just does not add up.

128 8/66c: “- - - for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.” This is a pep talk all non-Muslims should forever remember - fanatic Muslim warriors never give in and never stop. And also: How many soldiers in the future did Spain kill by pulling out their few men from the East some time ago, and proving to Muslims just these words which are repeated and repeated in the Quran? - a proof that now may be strengthened by Australia pulling out, and by USA pulling out too early.

But a good and efficient pep-talk for Muslim warriors? Yes.

But - - - is it true?

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This is one of the most disgusting and revealing sentences in the Quran.

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######129 8/69a: “ "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, #######lawful and good - - -”. This is one more of the moral and ethical pinnacles in the Quran: Wage war, and then it is “lawful and good” to steal and rob and plunder and extort - and rape the women and girl children and take slaves. It actually is connected to 8/68a above, but like so often in the Quran specific episodes, etc, is given general meaning.

But of course this made it easy and cheap for Muhammad and his successors to get warriors. That such behavior is a catastrophe for any and all victims - and in some cases set back the civilization may be some hundred years like in Persia/Iran - does not count, as non-Muslim “Untermench” ("sub-humans" in Nazi German) do not count.

This even more so as for fanatics nearly every situation they do not like, can be defined as war against Islam “in the widest meaning of the word” - not to mention that according to Islam’s definition all areas not dominated by Islam are “land of war”. Really a morally and ethical superior religion - compare f.x. to the silly and invalid "Do unto others like you want others do against you", which many religions and culture have as their "constitution". And really a peaceful one.

And honestly the word “good” in ”lawful and good” classifies Muhammad, the Quran and Islam. Laws can be twisted and remade and it is no problem for an absolute dictator to make what laws he wants and thus make things “lawful” – quotation marks used on purpose. But the word “good” is an absolute – flexible “borders”, but fundamentally an absolute. Allah’s/Muhammad’s real rules for behavior against all outsiders is way outside “good”, and the hypocrisy in the using of abrogated verses in the Quran to make outsiders believe something else, makes this aspect of the religion and its hypocrisy even more disgusting.

This quote also tells a lot about the person Muhammad.

########To us this is perhaps the most disgusting and revealing sentence in the entire Quran and the entire Islam - and even more so because it is done in the name of their god.

Also: Combine this quote with Islam's slogan: "Islam is the Religion of Peace" and "Allah is good and benevolent" and weep - or laugh.

What lacks now is that Islam starts claiming that "Islam is the Religion of Honesty - no Lying, no Deceiving, no Stealing". (Remember here that looting and robbing both = stealing.)

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###130 8/72d: “Those who believed - - - and fought for the Faith, with their property (= gave money - like many Muslims do even today*) and their persons (= went to war personally*), in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave them (warriors, terrorists*) asylum and aid (like what a large numbers of Muslims do today also - at least giving money and sympathy and aid to “the cause” included terrorism*) - all these (are good Muslims*)”. Comments unnecessary.

**131 8/74d: “- - - for them (warriors, terrorist and all their helpers and those giving them aid*) is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous”. This sentence tells a lot about Islam. And it also is a good pep talk.

It also may explain some of all the help terrorists get from “normal” Muslims.

But a serious question as a book with so many errors as the Quran is not from a god: Are these never proved claims true?

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

132 9/5h: "- - - (use*) any stratagem of war - - -". Why do you think terrorists behave like they do, and why they, to say the least of it, do not respect the Geneva Conventions, and not behave like, but are depraved and degenerated "inhumans" - - - and heroes to many a Muslim?

133 9/14a: "Fight them - - -". A more direct order is not possible to get - - - and from the leader of the claimed "religion of peace".

134 9/16g: "- - - strive with might and main - - -" = fight with everything you have got included your wealth and your life.

135 9/16h: "- - - strive with might and main - - -" = fight with everything you have got included your wealth and your life. Compare this to Jesus' religion of love and peace. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets? - no answers necessary.

136 9/19a: “Do ye make the giving of drink to pilgrims, or the maintenance of the Sacred Mosque, equal to (the pious service of) those who believe in Allah and the Last Day and strive with their might and mind (wages war - see 9/16 just above*) in the cause of Allah?”

Of course the active warriors – or terrorists - are the best. f.x. the warriors in Darfur and terrorists anywhere think they are doing a pious service by killing and murdering - - and gang raping like in Darfur and other places where it is more like normal wars, not hit and run - and of course stealing and robbing for “good and lawful” reward also in this world.

Boko Haram has these last few years (pr. 2014 when this was added), kidnapped more than 500 girls for sex slavery/forced marriage, etc. - like Muhammad and his Muslims practiced.

Yes, a good and human and benevolent religion.

And some future for non-Muslims - one place in the Quran, the warriors are reminded that there are places with rich spoils of war not taken yet. In the West? – or other places? It does not matter – this verse tells once more that the warriors are the best Muslims - - - and that spoils of war are tempting and honest.

137 9/19b: "- - - the Sacred Mosque - - -" = Kabah in Mecca. Even though it was the most sacred place on Earth for Muhammad and for Allah, Yahweh and Jesus and all the Jewish prophets were totally uninterested in it - one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion or serving the same god.

138 9/19c: "- - - (the pious service of) those who - - - strive with might and main (= go to raids/war*) in the cause of Allah". The word "pious" here tells much more and a much truer story about Islam and its basic ethics and moral than cheap slogans like "the religion of peace". When reality collides with words of propaganda, we always believe in the reality. Islam is a pure war religion. (This reality also is easy to see if you read the surahs chronologically and see the development of Islam during the years of Muhammad, and the bloody war religion it became in Medina.)

139 9/19d: "- - - (the pious service of) those who - - - strive with might and main (= go to raids/war*) in the cause of Allah". This simply is the antipode of especially NT. Yahweh the same god as Allah? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets? No - antipodes only can be antipodes also for gods and for prophets.

**140 9/19h: “They (Muslims doing good deeds*) are not comparable in the sight of Allah (with the ones killing/waging raids/war for Muhammad/Allah*)”. Terrorists and others using weapons and murdering for Allah, are the best Muslims.

Guess if verses like these do their work on some single-minded or fanatic Muslims. Who said “there are verses in the Quran that can be disused for war and terror”? Wrong: It hardly is possible to be a really pious Muslim without using weapons against non-Muslims.

**141 9/19i: “They (Muslims doing good deeds*) are not comparable in the sight of Allah (with the ones killing/waging raids/war for Muhammad/Allah*)”. Terrorists and others using weapons and murdering for Allah, are the best Muslims. See 9/19h above.

***142 9/20b: “Those who believe, and suffer exile and strive with their might and main (= fight in raids/war*), in Allah’s cause, with their goods (= giving money to war expenses*) and their persons (= fighting personally in raids/war or terrorism - “any stratagem of war”*), have the highest rank in the sight of Allah - - -”.

Terrorists (- any stratagem of war" -) and other warriors are doubtlessly the very best Muslims.

In possible future times of troubles - remember that Muslims are ordered to make Islam the dominant religion and to suppress the members of all other religions - the few (? - 30% of Muslims “understands why terrorists do what they do“ according to international polls, tough that number varies some*) Muslims living according to the highest “ethics” for Muslims, will make a powerful and efficient 5. column in the West and other places. That is a simple military and security fact.

***143 9/20c: “Those who believe, and suffer exile and strive with their might and main (= fight in raids/war*), in Allah’s cause, with their goods (= giving money to war expenses*) and their persons (= fighting personally in raids/war or terrorism - “any stratagem of war”*), have the highest rank in the sight of Allah - - -”. It is hardly worth the bother to tell that you find nothing like this in the Bible, not to mention in NT. Yahweh the same god as Allah? Jesus in the same line of prophets as Muhammad? Anyone able to believe such claims either need much more knowledge or a psychiatrist.

144 9/20d: "- - - strive with their might and mind - - -". A Muslim expression for taking part in armed raids, clashes, and war. The expression is not from the Bible.

145 9/20e: "(Warriors/terrorists*) have the highest rank in the sight of Allah". One more of the revealing fundamental points in the Quran. It is facts like these which tells the true story about Islam, not the cheap propaganda glorifications like "the very good man Muhammad" or "the Religion of Peace". And these many revealing points scattered all over especially the surahs from Medina, uniformly tell a dark story: A religion of war, suppression, apartheid - and not least about lawful dishonesty, lawful immoral and lawful inhumanity. (There are many parallels to Djingis Khan's war religion, to Nazism and to apartheid. Islam also has a superiority complex against all non-Muslims - it f.x. is seriously debated f.x. in north Pakistan if even "the people of the Book" have half the value of a Muslim or less, and the Pagans are even worth far less).

Another point: Historians of today straight out say that Islam is falsifying history when describing Muhammad as a saintly, reliable, and/or benevolent man.

###146 9/20f: "(Warriors/terrorists*) have the highest rank in the sight of Allah". Strongly contradicted by and incompatible to the Bible, and especially NT, which says that to be the greatest, you have to be the servant of the others, and be among the last ones, etc. (f.x. Mark 9/35). This is one of the many proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad do not belong to the same line of prophets - the teachings are too fundamentally, too deep, and on too many points too different. Simply one more fundamental point where the Quran is wrong. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

*147 9/20g: “- - - they (terrorists/warriors*) are the people who will achieve (salvation)”. At least the Quran is honest about some things - just like Hitler was in “Mein Kampf” - - - and few did believe Hitler until it was too late.

And not least: It is repeating one of the main incitements to war for Muhammad/Allah.

*148 9/20h: “- - - they (terrorists/warriors*) are the people who will achieve (salvation)”. The very antithesis of the NT - and one more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh is not the same god as Allah or Jesus in the same line of prophets as Muhammad - the teachings, the moral code, etc. are too fundamentally, too deeply and on too many points far too different. And we remind you that both science and even more Islam has proved beyond any reasonable and unreasonable doubt that the Bible is not falsified, in spite of the Quran's never documented claim.

*149 9/21a: “Their (terrorists/warriors*) Lord (Allah*) doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy (that terrorists/warriors for Allah are forgiven practically any sin*) from Himself (from Allah personally*), of His good pleasure (from the fighting and murdering they have done for the good and kind and benevolent god*), and the Gardens for them, wherein are delights (earth-like riches, luxury and women*) that endures”. The ultimate pep talk for war, terror and murder? In the name of a presumably peaceful religion and a kind and good god?

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

*150 9/21b: “Their (terrorists/warriors*) Lord (Allah*) doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy (that terrorists/warriors for Allah are forgiven practically any sin*) from Himself (from Allah personally*), of His good pleasure (from the fighting and murdering they have done for the good and kind and benevolent god*), and the Gardens for them, wherein are delights (earth-like riches, luxury and women*) that endures”. One more at least 110% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that the Jewish prophets, not to mention Jesus, were not in the same line of prophets as Muhammad claimed to be. See 9/20h above.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

151 9/21f: "- - - Gardens for them (Muslim warriors and terrorists - through the centuries there have been many terrorists from Islam (f.x. the Assassins, but also warriors and "normal" people)*)". In the Bible it is not possible to go to Paradise as reward for war and terrorism and murder, etc. - and especially not in NT (a reason for thinking if the two gods had been one and the same: There may have been a reason why a god changed his teaching to a milder, but how to explain that an omniscient god like Allah is claimed to be, changed to softer, for than to become MUCH more bloody and spiteful and hateful than he ever was before?

152 9/21g: "- - - wherein (in Paradise*) are delights that endure". The delights in the Muslims' paradise are good food and drinks, excellent clothes, an excellent place to live, good weather and cool shades plus plenty of women for the men. More or less a poor, uneducated and naive warrior's dream of the life of a king or something here on Earth - an Earth-like and exceedingly boring paradise in long eternities. Is this the best an omniscient, omnipotent god has to offer? (And he has even less to offer women.)

Also note how different the Bible's paradise is from Muhammad's: In the Quran royal, Earth-like luxury + lots of sex/women, in the Bible (f.x. Luke 20/35-36 there is no sex or Earthlike luxury, but "they will become like angels". The same god behind two so incompatible paradises?

*153 9/22b: “They (terrorists/warriors*) will dwell therein (in paradise) forever. Verily in Allah’s presence is a reward, the greatest (of all)”. Warriors/terrorists are in so high esteem in the eyes of Allah, that they will be invited to live in the parts of paradise that has Allah’s presence. (In the Muslim paradise some parts are even better than others - Jesus f.x. only lives in the 2. heaven, whereas Moses was a better prophet and lives in heaven number four, and top prophets like Abraham and Muhammad of course in number seven, closest to Allah, who resides above number seven. In addition some regions of the heavens are better than others - in the heaven for ordinary Muslims, there f.x. are 4 or 6 or perhaps more gardens - Islam does not know for sure - one better than the other (just hope you, your wives and your children do not merit different gardens).

Compared to 9/21 this may be an even more ultimate pep talk and carrot.

154 9/36e: “- - - fight the Pagans all together - - -". Not from the Bible, not to mention from NT. The Quran and especially NT are exactly opposite each other here.

155 9/36f: “- - - fight the Pagans all together as they fight you all together - - -.” An order and an incitement too god to overlook – at this time (631 AD) Muhammad finally had got the upper hand, and from now on and for centuries to come, most wars the Muslims fought, were wars of aggression and wars and raids of looting and plunder and enslavement + expansion and enlargement of power and of the religion.

156 9/38b: “O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the Cause of Allah (= to go to war*), ye cling heavily to the earth. Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter?” A very rhetoric question it is very difficult for a really pious Muslim not to answer “no” to. And also a question which tells a lot about Islam.

157 9/38ba: “O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the Cause of Allah (= to go to war*), ye cling heavily to the earth. Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter?” Incompatible to the Bible, and especially to NT. One of the many 100% proofs in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of prophets - in addition to that Muhammad with his inability to make prophesies, was no real prophet at all.

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###158 NB: 9/38d: In connection to verse 9/38 we quote from comment YA1299: "When a call (for war*) is made on behalf of a great cause (Islam*), the fortunate ones are those who have the privilege of responding to the call. The unfortunate ones are those who are so engrossed in their parochial affairs that they turn a deaf ear to the appeal. They are suffering from a spiritual disease". ####These comments are from our times, so you see that even now Muslim scholars mean that if you do not want to go to war whenever the religion calls, you are mentally ill. Further comments necessary?

And YA1300: #######"The choice is between two courses: will you choose a noble adventure (war*) and the glorious privilege of following your spiritual leader (to war), or grovel in the earth for some small worldly gain or for fear of worldly loss (f.x. your life or health*)?" "The Religion of Peace" anno nowadays.

Islam "the Religion of Peace" even today? Do not laugh - weep.

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###159 9/39a: “Unless ye (Muslims*) go forth (in war/battle for Islam/Muhammad*), He (Allah*) will punish you with a grievous penalty (normally in the Quran a synonym for Hell*) - - -”. An order not possible to misunderstand for a pious - or fanatic - Muslim.

Yes, a religion built on peace, goodness and heavenly moral and ethics.

THIS IS THE ORDER ALSO TODAY - JUST LISTEN TO SOME IMAMS, ETC. - see 9/38d.

THIS VERSE TELLS HORRIBLY MUCH ABOUT ISLAM AS IT IS TAUGHT IN THE QURAN.

VERSES LIKE THIS - THERE ARE MANY - AND QUOTES LIKE IN 9/38d TELL CHILLING FACTS ABOUT HOW ISLAM IS TAUGHT IN MADRASAS (RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS), MOSQUES, AND ISLAMIC MEDIA ALSO TODAY. WHEN THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NICE WORDS AND CLAIMS (F.X. "ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE") AND REALITY GIVEN IN TEACHING, IDEOLOGY, DEMANDS, AND ORDERS, WE ALWAYS BELIEVE IN THE REALITY.

One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - not to mention that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion.

Islam "the Religion of Peace"? Do not laugh - it is impolite.

160 9/41a: “Go ye forth (whether equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive and struggle (= fight*), with your goods and your person (money and life*), in the Cause of Allah. That is best for you, if you but knew”. Any comment necessary? The benevolent "Religion of Peace"?

Islam "the Religion of Peace"? Do not laugh - it is impolite.

161 9/42c: "- - - Allah doth know that they (lukewarm Muslims*) are certainly lying". Allah knows everything - do not try to cheat.

162 9/47c: “But Allah knoweth well those who do wrong (= those not wanting to go to war*)”. The terrorists are right: It is not the terrorists who do wrong, it is the ones reluctant to murder and kill and fight. Really a religion for peace and goodness run by a benevolent god. The sentence also is a warning: Go to war, or else - - -!

163 9/47e: This verse mainly is a pep-talk to the warriors about the bad quality of the ones who did/do not want to go to war. Strongly contradicted by the Bible, and especially by NT. Jesus and Muhammad belonging to the same line of prophets? Impossible is the only possible word, because we do not know a stronger one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

164 9/51b: “Nothing will happen to us except what Allah has decreed for us - - -”. Predestination: To do battle is not more deadly than sleeping in your bed, as Allah already has decided your hour of death. Naïve and uneducated people and religious fanatics may really believe this - in those cases it is one terrific piece of pep talk for not being afraid of doing battle.

165 9/51c: “Nothing can happen to us except what Allah has decreed for us - - -”. Well, Islam tells it is the free will of man that brings on bad incidents in life. This verse contradicts that, to say the least of it. So just go safely to war.

A warrior or terrorist can only win - riches and glory or Paradise. (Mutilation, becoming a cripple etc. is never mentioned).

Well, as said he may become a cripple f.x. and live a long life in misery - but that is never mentioned. Also his family may live in misery - also never mentioned.

Also the Quran NEVER mentions that the non-Muslims are humans and what the devastation of their culture and lives means to them - it is of absolutely no consequence and without the slightest interest to Islam or Muslims. The destruction of Persia - and for that case the East Roman culture or the terror in Pakistan/India and Africa - represented long series of terrible dramas and catastrophes for people and culture and science, but the only things which counted - and still counts - for Islam, was a lot of spoils of war - and power and riches for their leaders, and like it or not: Frequently forcing people to become Muslims - frequently by weapons, and always using social and other kinds of pressure - and by extra tax (jizya), often high. Even today we have never met a Muslim able to see this side of their wars or murders or suppression, not to mention what rape and enslavement meant to millions of victims - never to this day, not one single time have we heard a Muslim regret this. Only in the western culture the ability to see the fate of the victims is widespread - a military weak spot, but one of the points which perhaps make the western culture better than some others of the big ones. (To say anything good about the West is politically incorrect, but we do not care for what is politically correct - we are able to think ourselves, and what counts is what is correct, not what is politically correct).

166 9/52a: “Can you see for us (Muslims*) (any fate) other than the two glorious things – (martyrdom or victory)?” Definitely yes: We can see the war cripple. We can see the families destroyed because the husband/father is dead – or a cripple. We can on the other hand see men building their country instead of destroying neighboring countries - or at least leaving their neighbors in peace, so that the neighbors can build their countries. And we are able to see the price of war: Brutalized humans and destruction – a war never builds anything, it destroys. And we also can see the second possibility the Quran never mentions, except as minor set-backs: Defeat. It may give some of the victors a chance to steal and suppress and become rich – but for a terrible price for others. But this price the Quran never mentions and never cares about - it is as said paid by others.

***Islam seems to represent such a backward culture, that its members were and to a large degree are unable to see - or care for - what catastrophes and destroyed lives they inflict on others, as long as they themselves become rich and perhaps powerful. No price is too high for a good life and riches - - - as long as others have to pay for it.

Well, to inflict the religion on others also counts and counted for some of them. A religion built on a book so full of mistakes, contradictions and other errors, which it is not from any god.

Islam "the Religion of Peace"? Do not laugh - it is impolite.

167 9/52b: “Can you see for us (Muslims*) (any fate) other than the two glorious things – (martyrdom or victory)?” A glorification of war which is an absolute contradiction to the Bible, and with a nonexistence much stronger for comparison to NT. One more of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are different gods - if any of them exists, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not from the same line of prophets (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he was unable to make prophesies).

168 9/56-57: Not everybody wanted to go to war - a pep-talk against these ones. (#######But when judging Muslims, remember that large numbers of them do not want war - just like you and me they only want a life in peace and quiet and a reasonably standard of living, together with their loved ones. They are humans just like everybody else. Of course it may be difficult to know who of the Muslims are humans and who are more or less inhumanized by the hate and war and apartheid/superiority complex religion, but none should be judged bad only because he/she is a Muslim.)

169 9/67a: "The Hypocrites - - - enjoin evil, and forbid what is just, and are close with their hands. They have forgotten Allah, so He hath forgotten them. Verily the Hypocrites are rebellious and perverse". A pep-talk where Muhammad tells his followers how bad people they are who do not believe in him. Good psychology as long as the followers believe it - and people in religious fervor often believe their prophet or "prophet" no matter what is true and what is not. Also see 9/67b-through-f below.

170 9/72e: "- - - the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of Allah - - -". Once more we are up against the fact that this cannot be true, unless Allah exists and is a god. There is no proof for any of those claims. Only proofs for that the Quran is not from any god.

###171 9/81c: "Those who were left behind - - -" Not all wanted to go to war, and when there was a call to arms for the expedition to Tabuk in Oct. 630 AD, some of these did not go. No god could know this for sure long times before if man had free will - not even the expedition could be sure, as it was based on a rumor only. See 9/45c above. ###Also remember this when judging Muslims - very far from all are bad.

As for the last point: The fact that some Muslims are militants and the added facts about the use of dishonesty and deceiving (al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the lawful use of deception and betrayal, the lawful disuse/breaking of words/promises/oaths (2/225, 3/54 (if Allah can cheat, cheating is ok), 5/89, 16/91, 66/2), etc. - dishonest means even promoted to use for defending or promoting of Islam, and permitted in many other wide cases (f.x. to cheat women or save your money) - merit that you are a bit careful with a Muslim until you know him/her well, ########## but remember that most of them have just the same wishes and dreams for life as everybody else; a reasonably good life, safety and peace, a good family and friends, etc.

172 9/81h: This verse in short: The ones not willing to do battle may end in hell. Do you want end there?

173 9/83: "Never shall ye (some people*) come out (to raid or make war*) with me (Muhammad*), nor fight an enemy with me - - -". To say the very least of it: Most different from NT and its New Covenant. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets? Not possible is not even the first letter or even comma of the answer.

174 9/84a: “Nor do thou ever pray for any of them (those that did not want to go to war*) that dies, nor stand at his grave, for they rejected Allah and (not least?*) His Messenger (Muhammad*), and died in a state of perverse rebellion.” It is perverse not to obey when Islam wants war. If not the carrot of stealing riches, taking slaves and raping women should attract the ones reluctant to go to war, then use the whip of heavy social pressure to force them. War is very essential for the Quran. And “is”, not only “was” - “is” for all future.

175 9/84aa: “Nor do thou ever pray for any of them (those that did not want to go to war*) that dies, nor stand at his grave, for they rejected Allah and (not least?*) His Messenger (Muhammad*), and died in a state of perverse rebellion.” Totally incompatible to the Bible and especially to NT. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets (even if Muhammad had been a real prophet)? There only is one possible answer.

**176 9/85b: “Allah’s plan is to punish them (the ones not wanting to go to war*) with these things in this world, and that their souls may perish in their (very) denial of Allah”. Refusing war means:

  1. Social contempt.
  2. To most likely end in hell.
  3. To deny Allah.

Is it possible to put more social and religious pressure on a man to make him go to war - willing or not? Anyone saying Islam is peaceful or "the Religion of Peace", either has not read the Quran, is repeating “correct” words but wrong meanings, or is a Muslim (who believes it or not believes it). In addition he or she must accept the claim that the Bible is falsified - a claim both science and Islam strongly have proved to be wrong, by being unable to find even one documented falsification in the existing some 44ooo relevant scriptures and fragments older than 610 AD. There are MANY claims from Muslims and from Islamic institutions (cfr. here the Islamic rules for the use of dishonesty to defend and/or promote Islam) but not one proved case. (An interesting extra point here is the fact that there exists not one copy or fragments from the Quran older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission. This in spite of that the Quran tells that all claimed prophets/messengers - 124ooo or more according to Hadiths - received a book similar to the Quran (copy of the claimed "Mother of the Book" = "Mother" of the Quran), books which naturally in addition would have been copied by hand, like all central books were in the old times, so that there may be should have existed at least a million complete or partly copies of these Quran-like books through the times. Far more copies than there ever existed of the Bible.

#####Not one single copy or even fragment older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission is ever found. Are the claims a bluff? Or may be an al-Taqiyya or something? - Muhammad as showed was not adverse to lying in the Quran.

177 9/88a: “But the Messenger (Muhammad*), and all those who believe with him, strive and struggle with their wealth and their persons (= wage war*): for them are (all) good things (like spoils of war, slaves, women to rape, etc.*): and it is they who will prosper”.

To say the least of it: Incitement to wage war for Muhammad/Islam. But NB: This claim was never proved - it just is words. Except that many grew rich from stealing, extortion, slave taking, etc. in this world.

178 9/88aa: “But the Messenger (Muhammad*), and all those who believe with him, strive and struggle with their wealth and their persons (= wage war*): for them are (all) good things (like spoils of war, slaves, women to rape, etc.*): and it is they who will prosper”. Of course stealing, etc. is a basis for prosperity. But it is incompatible with the Bible, and especially with NT - and with normal moral codes. One more of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god and for that Jesus and Muhammad very far from are in the same line of prophets - even if Muhammad had been a real prophet.

179 9/89a: “Allah hath prepared for them (his warriors/terrorists) Gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein: that is the supreme felicity”.

Once more - to say the least of it: Incitement to wage war for Muhammad - and for Allah if he exists. On the other hand: How will "life" in such a boring paradise be in the long run - no mental activity at all?

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####180 9/93d: "- - - they (the ones not wanting to go to war*) know not (what they miss)". Comment YA1345: "It is not only a duty, but a precious privilege, to serve a great Cause (Islam*) by personal self-sacrifice (to make war for it*). Those who shirk such an opportunity know not what they miss". This is the point of view of modern Muslim scholars - as mentioned before the comments are recent ones. "The Religion of Peace"? No further comments - and none necessary.

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181 9/94i: "- - - in the end (at the Day of Doom*) ye (people*) will be brought back to Him (Allah*) - - -". Often claimed, never documented. Muhammad never was able to prove anything essential concerning his religion - everything just is undocumented words (and from a man with a special point of view concerning truth and dishonesty).

182 9/94l: "- - - Him (Allah*) who knoweth what is hidden and what is open - - -". Often claimed, never proved. Actually it is proved wrong, as many things which even then were open (f.x. texts from the Bible) are wrong in the Quran, and not to forget many things which by then were hidden knowledge (and which could later have proved Allah if Muhammad had given correct information), and which later have been found out by man, are wrong in the Quran.

183 9/95b: “So leave them (the not good Muslims*) alone: for they are an abomination - - -.” No comments.

#184 9/95c: “So leave them (the ones not wanting to wage war*): for they are an abomination, and Hell is their dwelling-place - a fitting recompense for the (evil) they did”. Not to hate and kill and steal and rob and rape and enslave and murder is an abomination and evil, which ends you in Hell. Your not wanting to go to war will make the raise of power for Muhammad and Islam go slower.

To wage war is the absolute duty for any fit Muslim who can afford it. No misunderstanding possible.

Brave future world.

Do you still believe that Allah is the same god as the Yahweh in NT?

But it is a weighty incitement to naive, uneducated primitives.

#185 9/95ca: “So leave them (the ones not wanting to wage war*): for they are an abomination, and Hell is their dwelling-place - a fitting recompense for the (evil) they did”. Incompatible to the Bible to say the least of it, and especially to NT. But words impossible to misunderstand. Anybody believing that the Quran has to be disused to find incitements to war and hate and blood and murder?

"The Religion of Peace"?

186 9/105b: "- - - soon Allah will observe your work - - -" - and reward your good deeds and your obedience to Allah aka Muhammad and punish your bad deeds and your disobedience - so stay in line and remember the discipline.

187 9/111a: “Allah hath purchased of the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise): they fight in His (Allah’s) Cause, and slay and are slain (and go to Paradise afterwards*) - - -.” It may be a good, if de-humanizing (war mostly is) deal - - - if Allah and the Paradise exists. If not the only person gaining anything was Muhammad (and all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran prove absolutely that at least something is seriously wrong).

188 9/111k: "Then rejoice in the bargain which ye (Muslim warriors*) have concluded: that is the achievement supreme”. A good bait – but see 9/111a and 9/111e above.

#189 9/123b: “Fight the Unbelievers who gird you about - - -". A clear order. Try to find anything similar in NT - or for that case in OT. F.x. "Turn the other cheek" does not fit very well here. One of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of prophets (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he was unable to make prophesies or "see the unseen").

190 10/13aa: "- - - did wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is according to its own partly immoral moral rules.

191 10/15e: "- - - the Penalty of a Great Day - - -". See 3/77b above.

192 10/16e: "- - - will ye (non-Muslims*) not then understand?" That was just Muhammad's problem - at least some of the non-Muslims understood far too well that something was seriously wrong with his new religion. A problem many a self proclaimed "prophet" meets.

#193 10/17a: "Who doth more wrong than such as forge a lie against Allah - - -". Well, for Muhammad's sake we can hope he did not make lies (which he did) in the Quran - that it f.x. was all TLE (the illness Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) or something dressed up as Gabriel who cheated him. On the other hand if Allah did/does not exist, Muhammad's lies were without consequence for him (except that they gave him much respect, power, riches, and many women) - - - if there did/does not exist some other god who disliked lies.

194 10/17b: "- - - deny His (Allah's*) Signs - - -". What is the punishment for denying invalid signs of very unclear origin? (There is not one "sign" anywhere provably from Allah.)

195 10/17d: "But never will prosper those who sin". But what is the correct definition of a sin? As the Quran very obviously is from no god, and as it as obviously is unable to see the difference between sins and not sins - its definitions at points are very obviously wrong - where does one find a correct definition of sin contra not sin? Some proposals:

  1. If there is a god: Sins against him is to believe in another god, to deny the real god, and to break the real god's rules, moral codes, etc.
  2. Sins towards humanity: To destroy or reduce the quality of our habitat and conditions of life.
  3. Sins against humans: Not to live according to "Do to others like you want others do to you". (No religion of war lives or teaches in accordance with this.)
  4. Sins against other living beings: Hurt or kill them without a good reason (f.x. for food, and then without unnecessary pain). Not to help them if they are in pain or danger.
  5. Sin against nature: Destroy or reduce its quality.

How many of these points does Islam satisfy? - especially beware of point 1, as no god would deliver a "holy book" of a quality like the Quran and all its mistakes, contradictions, unclear language, etc.

196 10/21d: "Our (Allah's*) messengers record all the plots ye (non-Muslims*) make!.

Untrue for the simple reason that it is impossible - at best they can record the ones they get to know about. How much of things and hidden deeds did f.x. Muhammad report? - only bits and pieces, and much of that was suspicions, not real knowledge.

And why does an omniscient god need reports from messengers?

197 10/40c: "- - - thy (people's*) Lord (Allah*) knoweth best those who are out for mischief". Obviously a warning. But if he knows, why then does he have to test everybody? Also see 2/233h above.

198 11/111b: "- - - of a surety, to all (humans*) will your Lord (Allah*) pay back (in full the recompense) of their deeds - - -". One of the many, many never proved claims in the Quran. With all the mistakes in the book, there only is one thing which is sure here, and that is that this claim is far from sure.

199 11/111c: "- - - for He (Allah*) knoweth well all that they do." The carrot: Be a good Muslim, be god and obedient to Allah/Muhammad and his survivors, and be rewarded. The stick: Be a non-Muslim or a bad or disobedient one and be severely punished".

200 11/112c: "- - - for He seeth well all that ye do". The carrot and the stick. You meet it many places and in different words in the Quran. Also see 11/111b and 11/112b above.

201 11/113a: “- - - and incline not to those who do wrong, or the Fire will size you - - -”. To incline towards non-Muslims is so bad a sin that it gives worse than death penalty - Hell. (Well, the claim is never proved.)

202 12/110b: "But never will be warded off Our (Allah's*) punishment from those who are in sin." We are back to the old fact: This only is true if Allah exists and is a major god - and if the Quran has described him correctly without the help from any god.

203 13/5f: "- - - to dwell therein (Hell*) (for aye)". But 6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74b-c, 78/23, plus some Hadiths may - may - indicate that it is not quite forever".

204 13/8: "Every single thing is before His (Allah's*) sight - - -". Allah sees - and knows - everything. See 2/233h above.

205 13/10: Condensed: Allah sees everything. Hidden meaning: The carrot and the stick. Also see 2/233h above.

206 13/18a: "For those who respond to their lord (Allah*) are (all) good things". Ever so often claimed in the Quran, but never proved.

207 13/18f: "For them (non-Muslims*) the reckoning will be terrible - - -". See 3/77b and 13/18b above.

208 14/2e: "For a terrible Penalty (their ("unbelievers") Unfaith will bring them)!" See 3/77b above.

209 14/7b: "- - - my (Allah's*) punishment is terrible indeed". See 3/77b above.

210 14/29: "Into Hell? They (non-Muslims*) will burn therein - - -". Psychology and propaganda - - - but neither Iblis/the Devil nor his Hell is proved. Muhammad "borrowed both from the Bible, but they may have originated further east. (Some of Muhammad's ideas about both Hell and Paradise are from Zoroastrism and other eastern pagan religions.)

211 14/42a: "Think not that Allah doth not heed the deeds of those who do wrong. He but gives them a respite against a Day (the Day of Doom*) - - -". One more - and a much used - "explanation" for why bad people often had a good life.

212 14/42c: "- - - a Day (of Doom*) when the eyes (of non-Muslims*) will fixedly stare in horror - - -". See 3/77b above.

213 14/44a: "- - - the Day when the Wrath will reach them (the non-Muslims*) - - -". = The Day of Doom.

214 15/2a: "Again and again will those who disbelieve wish that they had bowed to (Allah's Will) on Islam." Psychologically correct words for his followers - there are many such words in the Quran, as Muhammad understood people. And in the difficult year 621 AD they could need soothing and reassuring words like "we" are right and the "enemy" would be punished and would regret. But no: No regret possible, as there are too many absolute proofs for that something is wrong with the Quran and hence with Islam (f.x. all the mistaken facts)- and too strong indications for that it is a made up religion. No-one regrets not bowing to what is likely to be a made up religion - at least one not made by a god (as repeated many times; too much is wrong in the Quran - no god was involved in making it).

215 15/92-93a: "Therefore, by (indicating an oath*) the Lord (Allah*), we will, of a surety, call them (some sinners*) to account, For all their deeds". Is it here Allah who is speaking? - but in that case Allah here swears an oath by Allah - somewhat special. Or is it Muhammad who is longing for to bring his opponents to account?

216 16/1b: "(Inevitable) commeth (to pass) the Command of Allah - - -". It is inevitable only if:

  1. If Allah exists - but with all which is wrong in the Quran also this may be wrong (Muhammad after all just took over a pagan god, al-Lah, and claimed he was not pagan.
  2. If Allah in case he exists and is a major god, is correctly described in the Quran - again; with all which is wrong in the Quran, there might be mistakes also here, especially as all the mistakes makes it clear that the book and hence the description is not made by a god, and perhaps even more so as Allah was a peaceful god as long as Muhammad was in Mecca, but became a war god when Muhammad started to gain power and needed warriors in Medina. The change in the god in 622 - 624 AD is very striking, but never mentioned by Muslims or Islam. As the surahs from Mecca - some 85-90 - and the ones from Medina - some 22-28 (there are some one does not know the age of, though one believe one knows from which period) are mixed helter-skelter in the Quran, it is a bit difficult for readers who do not know the book well, to see this. But if you first read the surahs from Mecca, and then the ones from Medina separately, it is very easy to see this change from a peaceful to a war religion. And the point here is: An eternal god cannot change that much in just 1-2 years from Muhammad's arrival in Medina. At least one of the descriptions has to be wrong. Which of the descriptions - if any - is correct? Mecca and peaceful? - or Medina and blood and stealing and terror?
  3. If the Quran's claims about total predestination are correct (but in that case man has no free will, no matter what the Quran says about this - there are some of the immaterial laws which are impossible to break even for omnipotent gods.)

217 16/41g: "- - - the reward in the Hereafter - - -". Muhammad's and Islam's Paradise. See 10/9f above.

218 16/41h: "- - - the reward in the Hereafter will be greater". If the Quran tells the full and only truth.

219 16/41i: "If they (good Muslims*) only realized (this (that they will be rewarded))!" You cannot realize something unless it is true and proved - you can believe, but not realize.

220 16/85a: "When the wrongdoers (actually) see the Penalty, the will it in no way be mitigated - - -". See 3/77b above.

221 16/92f: "- - - on the Day of Judgment He (Allah*) will certainly make clear to you (non-Muslims*) (the truth of) that wherein (the Quran*) ye disagree". It is not possible even for a god to explain that wrong facts are right (but of course he can try to do what Muslims and Islam are trying to do - to "explain" them away or claim they are misunderstood, or that it is right even if it is wrong, and that science and others are wrong and the Quran right. Etc.).

222 16/94e: "- - - a mighty Wrath descend on you (for a big sin*)". See 3/77b above.

223 16/96c: "And We (Allah*) will certainly bestow - - - (on Muslims*) - - - their reward according to the best of their actions." If Allah exists and is a god - and if the Quran in case has told the full and only truth about him.

224 16/96d: "And We (Allah*) will certainly bestow - - - (on Muslims*) - - - their reward according to the best of their actions." One more difference between Yahweh and Allah: For Yahweh regretting sins and asking for forgiveness counts more than the good deeds. For Allah it is mainly the balance between good (sometimes "good") and bad deeds which counts. A plus for leaders on Earth who wanted action.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

225 16/97h: "- - - and We (Allah*) will bestow on such (Muslims*) their reward according to the best of their actions." See 16/96c+d above.

226 17/8f: "- - - and We (Allah*) have made Hell a prison for those who reject (all Faith)". See 3/77b above.

##### NOTE THE WORDS HERE: ALLAH HAS MADE HELL OR AT LEAST ACTIVELY USES IT. SOME GOOD AND BENEVOLENT GOD. (Muslim scholars agree on that Hell could not exist unless Allah at least accepted it. The all-powerful Allah easily could have terminated Hell if he wished.)

227 17/8h: "- - - and We (Allah*) have made Hell a prison for those who reject (all Faith)". Is this another indication for that in reality it is Allah who is behind Hell? What kind of "good and benevolent god" is he in case?.

228 17/9g: "(Muslims*) shall have a magnificent reward - - -". If Allah exists. And if he has sent down the Quran. And if the Quran tells only the plain and full truth.

229 17/10b: "- - - We (Allah*) have prepared for them (Non-Muslims*) a Penalty - - -". If he exists - if not it just is a bluff from someone.

230 17/57d: "- - - the Wrath of your (human's*) Lord (Allah*) is something to take heed of". See 3/77b and 17/57b above.

231 17/82e: "- - - for the unjust it (not believe in the Quran*) causes nothing but loss after loss". If one here talks about the Muslims with their partly unjust moral code, unjust rules for conflicts and strife, and partly unjust laws, etc., they have lost much on the intellectual level, as philosophy/new thoughts have been disliked and to a large degree prohibited for long periods. The mentioned twisted moral code etc. also have made too many of them as human personalities become like the feet of women in the old China: Small, malformed, and all the same the persons themselves believing it all was top - only because their parents and everybody else told them so - - - and everything in reality because one single person (in this case an empress or princess) once in the distant past was malformed). If one means non-Muslims (which is the real intention here) they have lost much to the aggressive Islam through the centuries - enormous amounts of wealth representing millions and billions of hours of work, their cultures have lost hundreds of years of development, the humans have lost at least a billion years of freedom as slaves (at least 15 millions from black Africa, some millions owned by Muslims in black Africa, a good part of the 14 millions sold to slave traders to the Americas, may be a similar number from Asia (f.x. in what now is Pakistan, India and Bangladesh the situation at times was horrible). And finally 1.5 million from Europe, included some 300ooo captured by pirates at sea, included some from the Americas (a close relative of Napoleon's Josephine from the Americas (not USA) was captured at sea and sold to the sultan's harem in Istanbul). And finally the loss for non-Muslims included millions of dead ones - the highest estimates are far above 100 millions (we have seen numbers of 200+ millions). Wars, murders, mass murders, pogroms, (for these three last, negroes, Buddhists, Hindus and other Pagans may have been worst off, simply because as Pagans they were worth nearly nothing), hunger, and not least deaths during slave transports - especially the marches of black slaves through Sahara could be horrendous (some of the estimates for the number of deaths on these routes are so high, that we are reluctant to mention them - they are difficult to believe (up to 80-90%)). Finally as for loss in the possible next life, this will depend on if there really are gods, if Allah is one of them, etc. What is sure in this connection is that the Quran is so full of mistakes, that no god has been involved in the making of it, and that Allah never in all the 1400 years one has claimed he existed, has one single time in any way has manifested himself or in any other way has proved his existence.

And what have all Muslims lost in a possible next life, if Islam is a made up religion and Allah a made up god? An ominous thought as no god ever made a book as full of mistakes, etc. as the Quran.

Not to mention: What have all Muslims lost if there somewhere is a real god - f.x. Yahweh - whom they have been prohibited to look for?

232 17/82h: "- - - for the unjust (non-Muslims*) it (not believe in the Quran*) causes nothing but loss - - -". ###As there is no god behind the Quran, it has no real religious value. ###And as its ethical and moral codes are deplorable - compare it to "do unto others like you want others do against you" and judge for yourself - it has negative moral value. It is a gain, not a loss to be able to see what the Quran really is - and it is a mystery why so many are able not to see all its errors, etc.

233 17/84b: "- - - (Allah*) knows best who it is that is best guided on the Way". But if Allah knows everything, why then 2/233h above?

234 17/97a: Another case of "the carrot and the whip".

235 17/97g: "- - - he whom Allah leaves astray - for such wilt thou (man*) find no protector besides Him (Allah*)". At least as far as believers in Yahweh, the Bible disagrees.

##236 17/97l: "- - - We (Allah*) shall increase for them (non-Muslims*) the fierceness of the (Hell*) Fire". Is this another indication for that the real ruler of Hell is Allah? What kind of good and benevolent god is he in case?

##237 17/97m: "- - - We (Allah*) shall increase for them (non-Muslims*) the fierceness of the (Hell*) Fire". - or (see 17/97l just above) is it a slip of the tongue of Allah, proving he is from the dark forces who rule Hell? Perhaps a dressed up Iblis/Devil cheating Muhammad? (Muhammad would have no chance to see the difference.)

238 18/30c: "- - - verily We (Allah*) shall not suffer (good Muslims*) to perish the reward - - -". With all the mistakes in the Quran it is difficult to know what is verity and what not.

239 18/31b: "For them (Muslims*) will be the Gardens of Eternity - - -". If the Quran tells the full and only truth, and if Allah exists and is not from the dark forces (if he exists and is behind the Quran, he is no god - too much is wrong in that book. Also remember that the big differences between the Bible's Paradise and the Quran's are one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradises had been one and the same one).

240 18/31e: “- - - they (the Muslims in Paradise*) will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold - - -“. Very nice – except that:

  1. 22/23: “- - - they (the Muslims in Paradise*) shall be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls - - -.”
  2. 76/21: “- - - they (the Muslims in Paradise*) will be adorned with bracelets of silver - - -.”

A minor, but clear contradiction. 1 or 2 depending on how strictly you judge.

241 18/31f: "How good a recompense (Paradise*)". Please read everything you find about the paradise in the Quran: You find riches, good clothes, good food and drink, good house, nice place and climate, plenty of sex - at least for the men - laziness. You find nothing to do, nothing which happens, no mental activity. A very boring paradise in the long run - but likely the maximum an uneducated, primitive warrior in a hot desert country was able to visualize - and may be those were the primitive dreams which formed this Paradise. But formed by whom? - any omniscient god could have made better than this.

242 18/47b: "- - - We (Allah*) shall gather them (people*), all together (at the Day of Doom*) - - -". If Allah exists and is a major god, and if the Quran in addition tells the truth about this. It actually is one of the many loose claims any believer can make on behalf of his/her god(s) as long as no proof is necessary.

243 18/99b: "- - - We (Allah*) shall collect them all (humans*) together". If Allah exists and is a major god, and is ruling the world according to what the Quran tells.

244 18/102d: "Verily We (Allah*) have prepared Hell for the Unbelievers - - -". See 3/77b above.

245 18/105e: "- - - nor shall We (Allah*) on the Day of Judgment, give them (the work/deeds of non-Muslims*) any weight". But perhaps f.x. Yahweh will - at least some of the non-Muslims (though may be few of the Muslims - many are too far from "do unto others like you want others do unto you").

246 18/106a: "That is their (non-Muslims*) reward, Hell, because they rejected faith - - -". Often claimed, never proved. See 3/77b above, and also 18/106a just above.

247 18/108b: "- - - no change will they (Muslims in Paradise*) wish from them (the Gardens of Paradise*)". Well, the Paradise like it is described in the Quran, is a good, but very boring place - a place where nothing happens, nothing to do, and with no mental activity. You have to be doped down - or very primitive and/or simpleminded - not to wish for something more. Which any god had known.

Please read everything you find about the Paradise in the Quran: You find riches, good clothes, good food and drink, good house, nice place and climate, plenty of sex - at least for the men - laziness. You find nothing to do, nothing which happens, no mental activity. A very boring paradise in the long run - but likely the maximum an uneducated, primitive warrior in a hot desert country was able to visualizes - and may be those were the primitive dreams which formed this Paradise. But formed by whom? - any omniscient and omnipotent god could have made better than this.

"How beautiful a coach to recline on!" No comments. Except that the many and fundamental differences between the Bible's Paradise and the one of the Quran are one of the many strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and he same.

248 19/36c: "- - - a Way that is straight". But leading where? To Paradise if Allah exists and is correctly described in the Quran - but remember here that the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is not from any god - no omniscient god makes mistakes. To nowhere if Allah is something made up by humans. To Hell if Allah is made up and there somewhere is a benevolent real god Muslims have been prohibited from looking for. Not to mention where it leads if Allah belongs to the dark forces and just has cheated Muhammad - too many facts for comfort may fit that theory.

249 19/62: "They will not there hear any vain discourse, but only salutations of Peace - - -". No mental activity in Paradise - not even debating. If man is resurrected in body and brain, this sounds like a terribly boring place to us - and that is very literally and honest meant. Only eating, drinking and sex for pastime? Also see 10/9f above.

250 19/70a: "And certainly We (Allah*) know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein". Allah knows absolutely everything - - - but he needs books, records and tests. Also see 2/233h above.

251 20/54b: “- - - in these (plants and cattle and food*) are Signs (Quran-speak for proofs for Allah) for men endued with understanding.” There are no real signs in the Quran – not for Allah, not for Muhammad’s religion, not for Muhammad’s connection to a god. The only signs “men endued with understanding” gets from sentences like this in the Quran, is the question: Why did Muhammad have to use invalid proofs and twisted logic, and the conclusion: Muhammad’s use of invalid arguments proves that he had no real arguments/facts – if he had had, he had used them instead. And actually there is one more point: The use of made up claims and statements are hallmarks of a cheat and a swindler.

252 20/54c: “- - - for men endued with understanding.” Flattery. See 13/3j above.

253 20/123d: "- - - whosoever follows My (Allah's*) Guidance, will not lose his way, nor fall into misery". This is strongly contradicted by the Bible - incompatible really. F.x. some of the moral codes are so different that if a Muslim lives according to them, and then meets Yahweh at "the other side", he will not only get a ticket to Hell, but be placed on the fast track for Hell. Look f.x. at the fundamental basis for all inter-human morality: "Do unto others like you want others do unto you". The Quran and its war and suppressing religion and ideology does not live up to that by far on all too many points.

As Allah's(?) guidance includes dishonesty in words and deeds, suppression, slave taking, extortion, war, etc. this sentence influences Islam's moral code in those directions.

254 20/127a: "- - - thus do we (Allah*) recompense him who transgress beyond bonds and believes not in our signs - - -". Not unless Allah exists, and is something supernatural. (He is not a god if he is behind the Quran - too much is wrong in that book - but he may well punish if he belongs to the dark forces.)

But how can Allah recompense - punish (or for that case reward) - without changes in his predestined Plan? - changes which are impossible, according to several verses in the Quran.

255 22/4b: "- - - the Penalty of the Fire". But how can a fair god punish anybody for doing what he has predestined them to do?! - the Quran several places states that Allah predestines everything, and that nobody can change what he has predestined (the Quran also claims that man has free will, but to combine full predestination for Allah with even a tiny little free will for man, is impossible even for a god - the two are mutually excluding each others, and maximum one of the statements can be true.) Also see 3/77b above.

256 22/9d: "- - - for him (the debating skeptic*) there is disgrace in this life (at least when Muhammad later came to power*), and on the Day of Judgment We (Allah*) shall make him taste the Penalty of burning (Fire)". See 3/77b above.

257 22/13a: "(Perhaps) they (non-Muslims*) call on one (other god*) whose hurt is nearer than his profit: evil, indeed, is the patron, and evil the companion (for help)". If the Quran is not from a god and/or is not the full and only truth, what is the Muslims' position here? - and what is their position in case, if there in addition somewhere else exist a real god?

258 22/14b: "Verily, Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow - - -". Rather similar to 9/72 above.

259 22/19d: "- - - for them (non-Muslims*) will be cut out garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water". If Allah exists and has supernatural powers - good or bad. And if not Yahweh first saves his followers from among them - as those religions - and ethical and moral codes - are pretty different, that can be quite many.

260 22/19-22a: “- - - for them (non-Muslims*) will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein - - -”. A strict regime. See 3/77b above.

261 22/19-22b: “- - - for them (non-Muslims*) will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein - - -”. Dramatic - - - but like absolutely anything of any consequence in the Quran never documented - there only are loose words and claims. Pictures like this are efficient for keeping followers in line, though.

262 22/22: "Taste ye (non-Muslims*) the penalty of Burning". See 3/77b above.

263 22/23a: “Allah will admit those who believe and work righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow: they shall be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments will be of silk”. As said before: A Paradise like the life of the very rich and kings in and around Arabia at that time as seen through the eyes of the poor and the primitive. Has an omniscient god nothing better to offer? Also this is a robust proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - their Paradises are totally different: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven" (Matt. 22/30). To say the least of it: There is some difference between Earth-like luxury plus plenty of sex for the men, and to become like angels. Not the same god, not the same paradise, not the same religion.

264 22/48c: "In the end I (Allah*) punished them (non-Muslims*)". A bit similar to 3/77b above.

265 22/48d: “In the end I (Allah*) punished them (killed the wrongdoers/non-Muslims*). To Me is the destination (of all)”. F.x. it is for Allah to decide whom to kill. Also see 3/77b above.

266 22/55a: “Those who reject Faith (Islam*) will not cease to be in doubt concerning (Revelation)”. Perhaps jestingly correct - maybe there will be a revelation made by some god (perhaps by Yahweh) some time. But we are in no doubt at all that there are good reasons for serious doubts about the Quran’s claims, statements and descriptions - why should the claims and statements we cannot check, be more reliable than the ones we can, and among which we find far too many to be wanting or wrong?

This claim also is a psychologically - if not true - good story for Muhammad to tell his followers.

267 22/56b: "On that Day the Dominion will be that of Allah - - -". There is one problem, though: Words are so cheap and Muhammad was able to prove not one single thing about his religion - most religions says similar things about their god(s), and the believers believe it, exactly like in Islam. And one more thing: When so much is wrong in the book that it is clear it is not from a god, why should this be correct? And would it mean anything as it is not from a god?

268 22/57d: "- - - (for non-Muslims*) there will be a humiliating punishment". If Allah exists and is a god (that is to say; he can punish also if he belongs to the dark forces) - - - and if not Yahweh disagrees, at least concerning his followers - if he exists.

269 22/58h: "- - - truly Allah is He Who bestows the best Provision". But:

  1. The paradise of Islam for men: Royal luxury and plenty of sex - that is all.
  2. The paradise of Islam for women: Royal luxury and perhaps a little sex if you can compete with your husband’s houris - that is all.
  3. The paradise of Islam for children and for unmarried women: Royal luxury - the rest unclear.

  4. The paradise of the Bible for everybody: "You become like angels".

No comments - except of course there remains the question if any of these religions are true religions. (Allah here has proved nothing, Yahweh a lot - - - if the old books tell the truth on this point. It also is ever so clear that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. If they had been, their Paradises had been one and the same.)

270 22/58i: "- - - truly Allah is He Who bestows the best Provision". If Yahweh's paradise is correctly described in the Bible (one becomes like the angels (f.x. Mark 12/25)), and if Allah's paradise is correctly described in the Quran (a primitive desert dwellers vision of a king's luxury life in laziness + lots of women), both are true, we by far prefer the first one. A royal life and nothing to do would be nice for some time, but exceedingly boring in the long run. Not to mention how it is for women, where perhaps 70 or more women and houris have to share one man according to Hadiths.

271 22/71h: "- - - (for non-Muslims*) there is no helper". What if they are followers of f.x. Yahweh? - a god the Quran admits exists, even though they wrongly mix him with Allah.

272 22/72e: "It is the (Fire of Hell)! Allah has promised it to the Unbelievers!" A promise worth nothing if Allah is a made up god. But for that: See 3/77b above.

#273 23/5+6a: “(Those Muslims are good*) Who abstains from sex, Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, ####or (the captives) whom your right hand possess - for (in their case) they are free from blame”. Catch a girl and make her your captive - and you are free from any blame if you rape her - or gang-rape her - or make more women your captives and rape them, too - or exchange girls with your mates every half hour or day or week. A slave is a slave - and spoils of war you take “just and good”, according to the Quran and Islam. We sometimes wonder if this is the reason for so much mass rape sometimes when Muslims wage war - Darfur and Bangladesh are/were examples to remember. Forget that the women are humans - take them captive and you are free to rape them without any blame. Really a good religion. And we do not mention the word empathy - it is something you hardly find in the Quran. Probably one of the most rotten points in any somewhat civilized pretended moral code.

But it brought Muhammad cheap highwaymen and later cheap warriors.

It is verses like this - and worse - which make people with normal moral codes - codes in reasonable nearness to "do to others like you want others do to you" - sometimes want to puke over the Quran and over Islam.

274 23/5+6b: “(Those Muslims are good*) Who abstains from sex, Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, ####or (the captives) whom your right hand possess - for (in their case) they are free from blame (if they rape them - included children!!)”. Part of the basis for the sharia laws.

275 23/5+6c: "- - - except - - - (the captives) whom their right hand possess - for (in their case) they (Muslim men/warriors*) are free from blame (if they rape the women or girls*) - - -". ###This is not the most rotten (im)moral rule and sharia law in Islam, but one of them.

####276 23/5+6d: "- - - except - - - (the captives) whom their right hand possess - for (in their case) they (Muslim men/warriors*) are free from blame (if they rape the women or girls*) - - -". No comments - and non necessary. Except perhaps: Would you like to be raped? - "do to others like you want others do to you"! On some points Islam has a very sorry moral code.

277 23/6b: “(Good Muslims*) abstain from sex except with those joined to them in marriage bonds, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess (= slave women*) – for (in their case) they are free from blame - - -:” To rape captive women and slave women was/is completely ok (with one exception; it was prohibited if they were pregnant – but most likely not if they were pregnant with your child). Take a woman captive in a “holy” war – and anything was named “holy war” – jihad - as long as the victims were non-Muslims, not to mention if they were Pagans – and you could freely rape her with Allah’s blessing, because it was “lawful and good”. And even slave raids theoretically could be defined as holy war - “jihad” - as the victims were non-Muslims, and all the 4 Islamic law schools accepted the fact that the "enemies" were non-Muslims as "bona fide" reason for declaring jihad. It was – and is (rape is very common in armed conflicts where Muslims are involved) – a nice life for the warriors. But it tells something about both Islam and some Muslims - something ugly.

F.x. during the Bangladeshi war of freedom it is estimated that the Pakistani soldiers made 200ooo babies by raping women and children - MUSLIM women and children. (Though some sources said this number was too high - "only" 200ooo children and women were raped they say. Only!)

278 23/7-11: These (good Muslims) go to Paradise - - - if the Quran is from a god and in addition tells the truth on this point. Also see 10/9f above.

279 23/10: "These (Muslims*) will be the heirs - - -". Heirs of Paradise.

280 23/11a: "(Muslims*) will inherit Paradise - - -". If Allah exists and is a god, and if the Quran tells the full and only truth.

281 23/11b: "- - - they (Muslims*) will dwell therein (Paradise*) (for ever)". But 11/108c may indicate that it may not be forever.

282 23/60c: "- - - because they (Muslims*) will return to their Lord (Allah - on the Day of Doom*)". Which they will not unless Allah and Islam are real and not made up, and not unless the Quran is correct about everything.

283 23/79c: "- - - to Him (Allah*) shall ye (people*) be gathered back (at the Day of Doom*)". Often claimed, but not true unless Allah exists and is a major god, and unless the Quran tells the truth about everything.

284 24/19c: "Allah knows - - -". Then why 2/233h above and 35/38b below?.

285 24/28b: "- - - Allah knows well all that ye do". = Do not try to lie - Allah knows and punishes if there is a reason.

286 24/63f: "- - - Allah doth know those of you who slip away (from Muhammad's orders*) under shelter of some excuse - - -". Do not try to cheat Muhammad - the god sees you if you do not really and in servility obey him.

287 24/63g: "- - - let those beware who withstand the Messenger's order (that Allah will punish them strictly*) - - -". Total dictatorship and despotism. Also see 3/77b above. Muhammad's repeated claims that he demanded no payment from his followers for his preaching is a little ironic - or worse.

Besides: How could/can Allah punish? Any punishment will mean that the man and his deed which Allah punishes changed his Plan - and according to several points in the Quran, nobody and nothing can change that Plan. If this is true, Allah can neither punish nor reward - both means changes in his Plan.

288 24/64g: "- - - one day (the Day of Doom*) they (people*) will be brought back to Him (Allah*) - - -". Often claimed, never proved - and contradicted by the Bible and a number of other religions. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

289 24/64h: "- - - Allah doth know all things". = do not try to cheat. But another point: Why does a god who knows all things, have to test his followers? - Muhammad's main explanation for why Muslims have to go to war and for why they experience setbacks. Also see 2/233h above.

290 25/11d: "We (Allah*) have prepared a Blazing Fire for such (non-Muslims*) - - -". Is this a slip of the tongue confirming that Allah also is the real master of Hell?

291 25/11e: "We (Allah*) have prepared a Blazing Fire (Hell*) for such (non-Muslims*) - - -". If he exists and in addition is either a god or a devil (dressed up like Gabriel, Muhammad would not have a chance to see the difference between the dressed up Iblis/the Devil and Gabriel - this even more so as he had never seen Gabriel in case).

292 25/24c: “The Companions of the Garden will be well, that Day (of Doom*), in their abode, and have the fairest places for repose”. A good future – if true.

293 25/24d: "- - - (Muslims in Paradise will*) have the fairest of places for repose." - - - if the Quran tells the truth and only the truth. (Which is not the case).

294 26/89a: "But only he (will prosper) that brings to Allah a sound heart - - -". Correct only if Allah exists, if Allah sent down the Quran, and if the Quran tells the full and only truth. Wrong if not.

295 26/97-103: Non-Muslims end in Hell and nobody can help them. “Verily, in this is a Sign - - -”. Yes, but only if it is true, not just words made up to frighten naïve and/or primitive people to accept a certain religion. Islam presents not one single proof, only cheap words ANYONE can use. How can we learn if Allah really had something to do with it? Islam really has a job to do to prove it. This especially as they never bother to prove things - statements from nowhere are their profession. Also see 3/77b above.

296 27/4b: "As to those who believe not in the Hereafter, We (Allah*) have made their deeds pleasing in their eyes - - -". And thus made it difficult or impossible for them to find again the road to Heaven. Here are one more of the big differences between Islam and Christianity: Allah blocks the road to Heaven for many, especially if they are bad. NT tells about the shepherd who goes far out of his way to find just those "lost sheep", and about extra gladness and joy in Heaven when bad ones repent and are saved, even in "the eleventh hour". The same god? - impossible unless he is mentally ill.

And not to forget: What does it mean here that the Muslims' deeds - even horrible ones - often are pleasing in their own eyes?

297 27/4d: "- - - We (Allah*) have made their deeds pleasing in their (non-Muslims'*) eyes - - -". Guess if that is the case also for Muslims, included warriors, al-Taqiyya (lawful lies) users and terrorists.

298 27/4e: "- - - We (Allah*) have made their deeds pleasing in their (non-Muslims'*) eyes, and so they wander about in distraction". See 27/4d just above - Muslims 100% sure they have the truth and the highest morality, without ever checking if it is correct. This strongly influences their view on and practicing of the Quran's already partly immoral moral code.

299 27/5a: "- - - they for whom a grievous Penalty is (waiting) - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims. An open question as the Quran is not from a god: What about the Muslims if there somewhere is a next life and a god? - especially if it is a good and benevolent god not liking war and suppression, dishonesty and bad moral rules (cfr. "do unto others like you want others do unto you")?

300 27/5b: "- - - grievous Penalty - - -". See 3/77b above.

301 27/5c: "- - - in the Hereafter will be their (non-Muslims*) greatest loss". If Allah exists and it there is a hereafter and if the Quran has described this hereafter in truth and only in truth.

302 27/5d: "- - - in the Hereafter will be their (non-Muslims*) greatest loss". There also is the question: What about Muslims if the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is not the truth - and with all its errors, contradictions, cases of invalid logic and of unclear language, etc. it at least is from no god. And where will those Muslims end who have lived according to the harsh and selfish (f.x. lie, steal/rob, rape, suppress, enslave) parts of the Quran end if it turns out that Yahweh and his New Covenant rule the hereafter?

*303 27/6a: “- - - the Quran is bestowed upon thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) from the presence of One who is Wise and All-Knowing (Allah*).” Islam claims that the Quran is the copy of the Mother Book (13/39, 43/4, 85/21-22) which is revered in Heaven by Allah and his angles there. It further is claimed that the book either is made by the omniscient and omnipotent god Allah – the only god (? - see 2/255a and 6/106b above) – or has existed since eternity, and is so fundamental that may be it is not made even by the god. This verse may be understood as a strengthening of the last claim: The Quran is not said to be made by or sent down by or from Allah, but sent down from “the presence of“ Allah. The fact that spoils this lofty and undocumented claim (claims normally are undocumented in Islam – though they demand documentation and proofs from anybody else) is the huge number of mistakes, twisted facts, contradictions, twisted and invalid logic, unclear language, etc. in the book. No god – omniscient or not – has ever made such a sloppy work. And also: A large number of the mistakes, rites, ways of thinking, etc. are in accordance the culture and “knowledge” around the time of Muhammad in what we now call the Middle East – but no omniscient god would have to use mistaken science, customs and rules and ways of thinking from a special century and a special, small area on the minuscule planet Earth, when he made a book – or it in other ways came into existence – before the universe was created (which happened 13.7 billion years ago according to science). Propaganda? At least it is wrong.

There is one more fact that makes it impossible that the book is from eternity: There is at least 2 - 3 places in the Quran where angels (according also to Muslim scholars) are speaking (and at least 8 places or more where Muhammad is speaking). This means that the book cannot have been made - or at least not finished - until after the first angels had been created (they could not speak in the book before they were created). It is clear in the Quran that the angels are not from eternity - Allah created them from light. And not to forget: The angels at least one place were speaking to humans, so that also the first humans already had to exist. And it also cannot have been made earlier than it was possible for Muhammad to have his say in the book at least the mentioned 8(?) times.

304 27/74a: "And, verily, thy (humans'*) Lord (Allah*) knoweth all that their (humans'*) hearts do hide, as well as all they reveal". This is a reminder you meet in different forms many places in the Quran: Allah knows everything, so do not try to cheat. Also be a good and obedient Muslim so as not to end in Hell. But if you are a good and obedient Muslim you can be glad because then you end in Heaven if the Quran tells the truth, and because the bad ones who are better off than you will be punished in the next life - - - if the Quran tells the truth. Also see 2/233h above.

305 28/74a: "That Day He (Allah*) will call on them (non-Muslims*) - - -". Often claimed, never documented. Also see 28/71c above.

306 28/75a: "And from each people We (Allah*) shall draw a witness - - -". What for if Allah is omniscient?

####307 29/8e: "- - - knowledge - - -". Comment (A29/4): "According to Razi, this phrase may also allude to concepts not evolved through personal knowledge but, rather, acquired through a blind, uncritical acceptance of other people's views (taqlid)". How many Muslims have become Muslims because they have studies diverse religions and found that in spite of all the errors in the Quran, this must be the one and true religion, and ###########how many simply have accepted what their fathers and surroundings have claimed to be the truth - a taqlid?

308 29/9c: "- - - them (good Muslims*) shall We (Allah*) admit to the company of the Righteous". The ones who are going to end up in the Quran's Paradise - - - if the Quran tells the full and only truth. Also see 10/9f above.

309 29/45j: "And Allah knows the (deeds) that ye do". The old reminder: Allah knows - do not try cheating him or his representatives. Also see 2/233h above.

310 29/53f: “- - - had it not been for a term (of respite) appointed (by Allah*), the Punishment would certainly have come to them (non-Muslims*) - - -”. Very well - then Muhammad had an explanation why “bad” people lived a good life, and he had to prove nothing - it just was Allah’s unfathomable will which did it, or like in this case; his predestined Plan. Proof?

311 29/55b: "Taste ye (sinners*) (the fruits) of your deeds!" In the Quran your good and bad deeds counts heavily for whether you will end in Heaven or Hell - but mind you: Judged according to the Qurans partly immoral moral code.

####The influence of points like this or of the opposite - promises of rewards for good deeds/obedience to the Quran's/Muhammad's demands and rules - on the Quran's/Islam's moral code is obvious: To go by Muhammad's/the Quran's rules is morally good, and the other way around. This is one of the reasons why parts of the Quran's and Islam's - and Muhammad's - moral code is immoral. (Compare it to "Do to others like you want others do to you". The many and sometimes big differences from this "constitution" for moral codes also are proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion, because those are Jesus' words and basic moral code - see f.x. Luke 6/31).

#312 29/58d: “- - - to them (Muslims*) shall We (Allah*) give a Home in Heaven, lofty Mansions beneath which flow rivers, to dwell therein for aye - - -”. Like life of the super rich on Earth plus plenty of water and women. Pretty different from Yahweh's Paradise: "- - - they will be like angels in heaven"(f.x. Matt. 22/30). The same god?! Answer not necessary. Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets - or even in related lines? Still no answer necessary.

####Also note that this description of Paradise is not from the Bible. Actually central parts of the Quran’s Paradise are similar to the one of the Zoroastrians. And remember: The big differences between Yahweh's and Allah's Paradises are one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same.

313 29/58e: "- - - beneath which flow rivers - - -". And two of these rivers are the Nile and the Euphrates, as they start in Paradise according to Hadiths.

314 29/58f: "- - - to dwell therein (Paradise*) for aye - - -". See 11/108c above.

315 29/58g: "- - - an excellent reward - - -". The Quran's paradise - see 10/9f - offers pleasant weather, top food and drink, top clothes, top housing, easy life, and plenty of sex for the men - - - but nothing to do and no mental activity and nothing else. An excellent reward?

316 30/15d: "(In Paradise good Muslims*) shall be happy in a Mead of Delight". This "Mead of Delight" is described for ca. 1/3 of the population; the adult men. For women and children little is told. But adult men will experience pleasant weather and shade, peace, nothing to do and no work, high luxury and plenty of sex. This might be the ultimate dream for poor and primitive desert warriors, but is this really the best an omniscient and omnipotent god can do? Such a life f.x. must be extremely boring in the long run. And the contrast to Yahweh's paradise is striking: "(You*) will be like the angels in heaven". (f.x. Matt.22/30). Yahweh and Allah the same god? Only the difference in their paradises proves beyond any reasonable and unreasonable doubt that this is not the case. And then there are all the other differences proving the same in addition.

PS: Also women and children will end up in Paradise if they qualify, but their existence there is little described.

317 30/15e: "(In Paradise good Muslims*) shall be happy in a Mead of Delight". Only true if there is the god Allah, and if his Paradise is correctly described in the Quran.

318 30/29j: "To them (non-Muslims*) there will be no helpers". This will be true only if the Quran tells the full and only truth - it should be unnecessary to point to that this is not the case, and that on top of all no god ever was involved in a book as full of mistakes, etc. as the Quran. The claim in the verse is not true if the god(s) some non-Muslims believe in, really exist(s) - f. x. Yahweh.

PS: And what about helpers to Muslims if the Quran is a made up book? - remember that there is no god behind it.

319 30/37a: “See they not that Allah enlarges the provision and restricts it, to whomsoever He pleases? Verily, in that are Signs for those who believe”. There are signs of Allah in the fact that some are rich, some are poor and some are directly in distress? Islam must prove that no other explanations for riches and poverty are possible. Without such proof these presumed signs are invalid as proofs.(This also is the Quran's standard and easy explanation for why some have a good life and others not: Allah's unfathomable decisions).

Remember: "A proof is one or more proved facts which can have only one conclusion".

320 30/44f: "- - - (good Muslims*) will spread their couch (of repose) for themselves (in heaven)". Only if the Quran has told the full truth and only the truth about this, and only if Allah in addition exists and is a major god.

321 31/8c: "(For good Muslims*) there will be the Gardens of Bliss". If Allah exists and if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth about him.

Also remember that the enormous differences between the Paradise of Yahweh and the one of Allah, are one of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. If they had been, their paradises had been one and the same.

322 31/8-9: "(For good Muslims*) there will be the Gardens of Bliss, to dwell therein". If Allah exists and if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth about him.

323 31/9a: “The promise of Allah is true”. There never was one proved promise which was or is proved come true. Guess if Islam had told about it in case! Claims "en masse" but never a proved case.

324 32/14c: "- - - the Penalty of Eternity for your (evil) deeds!" Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. Remember that among the most evil deeds you could do, was and is to refuse to go to war to strengthen Islam, rob other people and give Muhammad his share, and suppress, enslave or kill fellow humans. Admittedly it is said that this only could be done in a jihad - holy war - and Muslims are very quick to say so. But as there hardly was one single armed conflict throughout these 1400 years where Muslims were one of the parts, which was not a jihad, this just becomes a meaningless excuse. And honestly to do it in the name of one’s god, makes both the deed and the god more disgusting and immoral.

But also see 3/77b above.

325 32/14d: "- - - the Penalty of Eternity for your (evil) deeds!". But f.x. 6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74b-c, 78/23, (plus some Hadiths) indicate that Hell perhaps is not quite forever - at least not for Muslims who have been bad enough to end there. (And 11/108 may indicate that also Paradise is not forever.)

326 33/43a: "He (Allah*) is it Who sends blessings on you - - -". Allah cannot send blessings on anyone unless he exists and in addition is a god.

327 33/43c: "- - - He (Allah*) may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light - - -". Well, not by means of a book as full of errors and immoral moral as the Quran.

328 33/43d: "- - - He (Allah*) is full of Mercy to the Believers". There never was a god of a war religion who really was full of mercy even towards his believers. Also see 1/1a above.

329 33/44a: "- - - the Day they meet Him (Allah*) - - -". The Day of Doom.

330 33/44b: "He (Allah*) has prepared for them (good Muslims*) a generous Reward". Impossible for Allah unless he exists and is something supernatural - white or dark.

331 33/44c: "- - - a generous Reward". Here intended to mean the Quran's and Islam's paradise. See 10/9f above.

332 33/47c: "- - - they (good Muslims*) shall have from Allah a very great Bounty". You find similar claims here and there in the Quran, not one of them is documented or in other ways proved fulfilled. Many claims, but not one proved case.

######333 33/50d: "- - - We (Allah*) have made lawful for you (Muhammad and Muslims*) - - - those whom thy right possesses (= your slaves*) out of the spoils of war - - -". #######This plainly tells that Muslims are permitted to rape any female captive of war (and remember all wars in reality are named jihad, so Muslims cannot explain that it only is for jihads - and honestly it is quite a god who says: "When you fight for me - or at least your leaders claim that you are - you are permitted to rape any female child (at least if she is 9 years or older - Muhammad's start of sex with Aisha), girl, woman or married not pregnant woman you come across if you just can call her your captive. But just look at armed conflicts the last couple of generations included Bangladesh and Eritrea - that is just what even regular Muslim armies have practiced - with inhuman examples in Bangladesh, where the hundreds of thousands of or more rape victims even were fellow Muslims (We have read that in Bangladesh there after that war was born some 200ooo illegitimate children from the rapes. This in case means a few million cases of rape of fellow Muslim girls and women. On average each Pakistanis soldier in case made several rapes. But this number may be too high - most sources say "only" 200ooo raped children and women.) This sentence tells more about reality in the Islamic moral code and about the benevolence of Allah, than all the nice claims about such things in the Quran combined - acts and rules showing reality, always are more reliable than nice claims. And honestly: To do it in the name of their god makes the deeds even more disgusting, and tells a lot about the real Allah - - - if he exists.

Another point: To steal and rob is dishonesty, even though the Quran - like f.x. the Mafia - permitted it, and even glorified it as it attracted warriors and gave Muhammad riches. To steal humans (for slavery) is dishonesty to at least the second or third power. Firstly they stole their freedom, which is very valuable to most humans. Secondly they stole the economic value they had as slaves. And thirdly they often stole their sexual "services", which definitely has a value for most humans. All this "lawful and good". A religion of honesty?

#####334 33/50e: "- - - We (Allah*) have made lawful (for sex/rape) for you (Muhammad and Muslims*) - - - those whom thy right hand possesses (= your slaves*) out of the spoils of war (captives from raids and war) - - -". Women and girl children you took captive during raids and war: Just go on raping them (actually this also to a degree happened to male boys, youths, and young men, too). "Do unto others like you want others do unto you".

#####There are other moral rules in Islam which are worse and more immoral, but this is the one we find most repulsive - this one and the one permitting sex with/rape of children. Also see 8/69 telling this is "lawful and good". Disgusting to use small letters. (Much of 33/50 is just for Muhammad, but rape of slaves and captives and sex with children were for any man - understood by the Muslims from f.x. 8/69.)

335 34/37d: "- - - there is a multiple Reward for their (good Muslims'*) deeds - - -". The Quran some places tells that the value of good deeds will be multiplied at the Day of Doom. (Thus it is easy to be accepted to the Quran's paradise - see 10/9f above - IF the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth).

336 34/37e: "- - - there is a multiple Reward for their (good Muslims'*) deeds - - -". Only if Allah exists, is a major god, and only if everything told about him is true.

337 34/37f: "- - - secure they (good Muslims in the claimed next life*) (reside) in the dwellings on high!". Often claimed, never documented - - - and words are cheap, especially in a book not from any god".

338 35/7h: "- - - a magnificent Reward". The Quran's and Islam's paradise. See 10/9f above. Remember that the deep differences between Yahweh's Paradise and the one of Allah, are one of the really strong proofs for that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same one.

339 35/33b: “Gardens of Eternity (Paradise*) will they (Muslims*) enter: therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls: and their garments will be of silk.” Earthly luxury life. Also see 10/9f above.

340 35/35b: "- - - a Home that will last - - -". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f above. But 11/108c may indicate it at least will not last forever.

341 35/35c: “- - - no toil nor sense of weariness shall touch us (Muslims*) therein (in Paradise*).” Paradise = Like the rich and mighty on Earth: They did not have to toil and become weary.

342 35/36a: “But those who reject (Allah) – for them will be the Fire of Hell”. Not exactly compulsion on the surface, but at least a clear threat. We include it because this threat is repeated often, so it makes up a considerable psychological compulsion anyhow for anyone not sure Islam is wrong. It at least contradicts 2/256. Also see 3/77b above.

343 36/53a: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) will be brought up before Us (Allah - on the Day of Doom*)". Often claimed, never documented. It only may - may - be true if Allah exists and is a god correctly described in the Quran.

344 36/54c: "- - - ye shall be repaid the meeds of your past Deeds". Even though the goodwill of the god and also his forgiveness is essential also in Islam, it is less essential and the balance between your god and bad deeds mote essential to your acceptance to Paradise, than the same in especially NT where the goodness of the god and his forgiveness is more central than in the Quran - and consequently your deeds less central.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

345 36/55b: "Verily the Companions of the Garden shall have joy - - -". If the Quran's tales are true, and if Allah exists and is a major god.

Also remember that the deep differences between the reasons for joy in Yahweh's Paradise compared to in Allah's Paradise, are one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

346 37/39a: "But it (Hell*) will be no more than the retribution of (the Evil) that ye (sinners*) have wrought - - -". The sadistic and inhuman and everlasting torture in Hell does not compare to the after all comparatively small sins most sinners have made - there is no justice in such a brutal and devilish sadism.

347 37/41-44: “For them (Muslims*) is a Sustenance determined (in Paradise*), Fruits (delights); and they (shall enjoin) honor and dignity, in Gardens of Felicity, facing each other on Thrones (of dignity).” Mostly when it is talk about food in Paradise, it is talk about fruits. Also they have to be rich and dignified, as they all sit on thrones. There must be very long rows of thrones - very long and many such. But is this the best and least boring Paradise an omnipotent god is able to create? Also see 10/9f above.

The many and very basic differences between the Bible's and the Quran's Paradises are one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

348 37/44: "(Muslims in Paradise all*) Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity)". There have been a few billion Muslims through the times, and will be more. The rows of thrones facing each others must be long - especially if also women and children have thrones - in what must be a very boring paradise. This may be the maximum primitive, uneducated warriors were able to dream about - but is this really the best Paradise an omniscient and omnipotent god like Allah is claimed to be, is able to offer his followers?

349 37/45-47: “Round will be passed to them (Muslims*) a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness, nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom”. Not only good food, but also good drinks – not intoxicating. But again: Is this really the best an omniscient, omnipotent god is able to offer? We may add that Yahweh's paradise is quite different (even though not too much is said about his paradise, this much is very clear).

350 37/48a: “And beside them (Muslims*) will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty)”. The famed houris – for free use. And what use did primitive – and for that case some other – men think of? Hardly of polite and intellectual conversation.

There is no place in the Quran mentioned one single thought about how Paradise is for the houris. The Quran seldom cares about the life and feelings of others than the main persons – the male Muslim, preferably a warrior. Houris, slave woman, slaves, servants, and others - even to a large degree the free(?) Muslim women: Just things for the brave warrior to use and to serve him. Things.

351 38/55a: "But for the wrongdoers will be an evil place of (final) Return". Hell. Yes, if the Quran tells the truth and only the truth about everything. If it f.x. is wrong about who are wrongdoers or about Allah being a real god, the picture suddenly changes.

352 38/59c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) shall burn in the Fire". See 3/77b and 38/55a above.

353 39/71a: "The Unbelievers will be led to Hell - - -". If there really exists a god and a next life, this may be true. But as the Quran with all its errors is from no god, the 64ooo dollar question is: The believers of what religion will end in Paradise? - and the rest will may be not end there. If the Quran is a made up book, Islam is a made up religion, and the Muslims will be among "the rest". Sorry, but this is an undisputable fact.

354 40/13c: "- - - only those receive admonition who turns (to Allah)". This only can be true if Allah exists, is a major god and if at the same time no other god exists - f.x. Yahweh whom both the Bible and the Quran claims exists (even though the Quran mistakenly mixes him with Allah - their teachings are fundamentally too different for them to be the same god).

355 40/60e: "- - - (non-Muslims*) will surely find themselves in Hell - - -". But what about Yahweh? As said some times the moral, etc., codes in the war and apartheid religion told by the Quran, on several points are so different from normal moral and ethical codes, that may be Yahweh thinks you have been a very good person even if Allah wants you to hell - the difference between the religions are by far big enough for that, both ways. In that case may be Yahweh will intervene, at least if you are a follower of him. (The differences between the religions are the main proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Muslims try to explain away the differences with never documented claims about falsifications of the Bible, but both science and Islam thoroughly have proved those claims wrong.)

356 41/25d: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) are utterly lost". Only if Islam is a true religion and only if the claimed, but never proved god Allah exists - and only if there is/are no other god(s) like f.x. Yahweh.

357 41/27a: "But We (Allah*) will certainly give the Unbelievers a taste of severe Penalty - - -". Only if Allah exists and is a dominant god, and only if he and the claimed Day of Doom are correctly described in the Quran in spite of all its other mistakes, etc.

358 41/31c: "- - - therein (Paradise*) shall ye (Muslims*) have all that your soul shall desire; therein shall ye have all that ye ask for". See 10/9f and see if you find all you ask for - nearly all you find are bodily pleasures. On top of that this only is a never proved claim.

359 41/46d: "- - - whoever works evil, it is against his own soul - - -". But what about other souls if he leads them to an invalid or made up religion? A relevant question as the Quran is not from a god - too many mistakes, etc.

###360 42/3d: (A42/2): "I.e. the basic truths propounded in the Quranic revelation - - - are the same as those revealed to the earlier (Jewish*) prophets". To be very polite: This is not true. There are oceans between Muhammad and the Jewish prophets - deep fundamental differences and contradictions, especially compared to Jesus and his new covenant. Muhammad was not in that line of prophets - not even in the same moral world - and in a basically very different religion - one of war and suppression, dishonesty and apartheid, simply 180 degree contradiction to Jesus' teachings and a lot different from the older prophets, too.

The fact is that the many and deep differences between the messages in the Bible and the Quran are one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

361 42/5d: "- - - pray - - -". What is the idea with prayers in the Quran? If Allah predestines everything long before, and in accordance with his Plan, which nobody and nothing can change, also prayers can change nothing, and is just a waste of time and effort.

362 42/8h: "- - - the wrongdoers will have no protector or helper". This may be wrong if there exist other gods - f.x. Yahweh, whom also the Quran admits exists, even though it wrongly mixes him up with Allah. This even more so if the Quran is a made up book and Islam thus a made up religion - and Allah a made up god.

363 42/16a: "But those who dispute concerning Allah after He has been accepted - - - on them is Wrath, and for them will be a Penalty terrible." After you have become a Muslim, it is prohibited and punishable to utter doubt about anything concerning the religion. This even if you find something is wrong. (All the same out of the non-Muslims who today enters Islam, 3 out of 4 leave it within 3 years. ######It is thought provoking that so many adults leave after having got more knowledge about the religion. (Adults often have the ability of being able to evaluate facts, claims, etc. - children normally are too strongly indoctrinated before they grow old enough to develop this ability.))

364 42/20a: "To anyone that desires the tilth of the Hereafter, We (Allah*) give increase in his tilth, and to anyone that desires the tilth of this world, We grant somewhat thereof, but he has no share or lot of the Hereafter". The standard explanation in the Quran for different standards of living - Allah decides it so. But sooth yourself - you will be better off in the next life when you end in Paradise and he in Hell.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

365 42/21d: "But verily the wrongdoers will have a grievous Penalty". Not unlikely. But who are the wrongdoers if Islam is a made up religion? - and with so many mistakes, etc. the Quran is from no god. The Islamic moral code is partly a horrible one according to most religions and nearly all cultures. If there somewhere is a benevolent god, he hardly will accept anyone living according to such an immoral moral code to his paradise.

366 42/22i: "- - - there (in Paradise*) they (Muslims*) shall have - - - all that they will wish for". If the Quran tells the truth - and if Allah exists and is a god. Also see10/9f above.

367 42/26g: "- - - deeds of righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

368 42/26j: "- - - a terrible Penalty". See 3/77b above.

369 43/70-71: “Enter ye the Garden, ye and your wives, in (beauty and) rejoicing. To them will be passed round, dishes and goblets of gold: there will be all that the souls could desire, all that the eyes could delight in - - -”. Like the richest ones in Arabia – and with plenty of fruits to eat according to 43/73. Is earthlike luxury (and sex) all an omnipotent god has to offer in his Paradise?

One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, their paradises had been the same one.

#370 44/43-46: “Verily the tree of zaqqum will be the food of the Sinful – like molten brass; it will boil in their insides. Like the boiling of scalding water.” Also Hell is earth-like in that the sinners need food and drink – which also become parts of their sadistic torture. What they get to drink mostly is boiling or more hot, but a few times may be colder than ice. And the food is from the zaqqum tree, from the thorny dari bush or “corruption from wounds”.

Neither the need to eat and drink nor the zakkum nor the dari - or any other - tree or bush nor infected wounds is found in the Bible's Hell.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been one and the same.

371 44/49: "Truly wast thou (inmates of Hell*) mighty, full of honor!" If you read the Quran, you will see that Muhammad normally stressed that victims of Allah's punishment were mighty and powerful people. This made his god look greater and mightier - and Muhammad’s often rather poor followers lucky. But why does a claimed omniscient god need to be enlarged? And how do you really enlarge such a god? - not in in reality pathetic ways like this at least.

A motif for hassling the rich and mighty, is the fact that for many years - until well after it started to pay well to follow Muhammad - his followers mainly were from the poor classes, and damning the rich ones to hell, was pep-talk for his poor followers.

372 44/53: "Dressed in fine silk and rich brocade - - -". The Quran's paradise is like a poor and naive person's dream about earthly royal life - likely the maximum of luxury Muhammad's early followers were able to dream about. According to the Bible Yahweh's Paradise on the other hand is spiritual. One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

373 44/54: “- - - and We (Allah*) shall join them to Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes.” Houris are a bit special kind of women, but the “fact” that they are given to the men arriving in Paradise as repayment for good (?) deeds, tells kilometers about Islam’s view on women. Also see 37/48 above.

374 44/54b: "- - - Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes". The famous houris. Their existence in the Paradise is contradicted in the Bible - or at least never mentioned, and the bad Jews and Christians and the reliable - also according to the Quran - Jesus and all the other biblical prophets, had not forgotten such a juicy temptation. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

The ideas of houris to "serve" good Muslim men, Muhammad borrowed from the pagan Persia, where they were named paaris.

375 44/55: "There (in Paradise*) they (the resurrected dead*) can call for every kind of fruit - - -". A most strong proofs for that Yahweh's and Allah's Paradises are not the same one. In Yahweh's the resurrected persons "become like angels" (f.x. Luke 20/36), in the Quran they are resurrected in body, though as young adults - and need food and drink and plenty of women (there is little talk of the women's life in Paradise - Islam is a religion mainly for men (also this very different from Yahweh's and Jesus' Paradise)).

376 45/10a: "In front of them (skeptics*) is Hell - - -". Not true unless for one thing Islam is a true religion and correctly described in the Quran, and for another thing the skeptic's religion is untrue. And if it should happen that Islam is a made up religion - like all the errors in the Quran may indicate - and another religion - f. x. Yahweh's - is real, the quote is extra wrong.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been one and the same .

**377 45/19+20: “- - - Allah is the Protector of the Righteous. These are clear evidence to men - - -”. Yes, but only if it is documented that Allah really is a protector. There are no proofs for that in the Quran or anywhere else - only claims or statements based on invalid (not proved) claims or loose statements, etc. There in reality is not even a single valid proof for Allah himself. (But then it is not possible for humans to prove a god - only a god can do that. That is one of the reasons why all the “proofs” in the Quran turn out invalid – Allah refused to or was unable to prove anything). This claim is logically invalid.

378 45/20a: "- - - clear evidence - - -". There exists nowhere inside or outside the Quran a logically valid proof neither for Allah nor for Muhammad's contact to a god. The best proof for this is Islam's science about it - if even one had existed, you had met in every Islamic media - clear and often.

379 45/22b: "Allah created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and earth - - -". One more of the many never proved claims Muhammad makes on natural phenomena for glorification of and proof for his god. Logically totally invalid as he never proves it really is Allah who is behind it.

380 45/23d: "- - - guidance (the Quran*) - - -". There is not much reliable guidance in a book full of errors.

381 45/23e: "- - - receive admonition - - -". From a book full of mistakes, etc., with partly immoral and unethical moral and ethical codes - and even some unjust laws? Dictated by a man of dubious moral and reliability, liking power, riches for more power - and women?

382 45/24d: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) merely conjecture" But if the Quran is not from a god or from a dressed up devil - what is it but conjecture? Or for that case what is then the religion if it is from a dressed up devil?

And what is it if it is from a sick (TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - like modern medical science suspects) and/or power-hungry human brain?

383 45/27f: "- - - the dealers in Falsehood - - -". Whom do this include as the Quran with all its errors is not from a god, and as there provably are many, many wrong facts, etc. in it?

384 45/30b: “- - - those who believed and did righteous deeds, their Lord (Allah*) will admit them to His Mercy - - -.” Plain and simple - if Allah exists. (And of course the best deed was and is to go to war.) But it is totally dependent on that Allah exists, is a god, and is correctly described in the Quran.

385 47/5c: “Soon will He (Allah*) guide them (Muslims slain for Allah/Muhammad*) and improve their conditions, And admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them”. Vague promises - it can of course be no less than Paradise, but you will find much more epic - and lyric - descriptions not much later. Allah quickly had found a good receipt - or perhaps Muhammad. Nice promises for the warriors and cheap promises for Muhammad. This claim/promise is invalid if the Quran is a made up book - and at least no god made a book of that quality.

386 47/12b: "Verily Allah will admit (Muslims to his paradise*) - - -". The old fact: Not possible - possible - unless Allah exists and is a god. (Where will he admit them if he is from the dark forces?)

387 47/14d: "- - - one to whom the evil of his conduct seems pleasing - - -". The expected person here is a non-Muslim. But look to Islamic history, moral and culture, and ask who has a religion where evil conduct may be "lawful and good" and pleasing? - compare to "do unto others like you want others do unto you", the sum of "the Law and the prophets" according to Jesus (Matt. 7/12), if necessary.

388 47/15e: "- - - promised (by Allah*) - - -". There is the black fact that till now - 1404 normal years after Muhammad started his mission - there never was a proved case of Allah keeping a promise.

389 47/15f: "- - - rivers of wine - - -". In the old Arabia alcohol was "one of the two delightful things" (the other one was sex). This surah is from 622 AD and before Allah found he was wrong about alcohol and prohibited it. Muslims normally explains wine in Paradise with that it is non-alcoholic ("wine you do not get intoxicated from", to use the exact words often used). Rivers of wine is not mentioned in the Bible. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

390 47/15h: "In it (Paradise*) there are for them (Muslims*) all kinds of fruits - - -". The Quran's paradise simply is the poor, uneducated desert warrior's dream about royal luxury and a big harem - - - and the god some hundreds or more miles above (for km multiply by 1.6) according to Hadiths. Also see 10/9f above.

One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, their paradise had been one and the same.

391 48/5d: "- - - Gardens beneath which rivers flow - - -". According to Hadiths there are 4 rivers in Paradise - in addition to the rivers of milk, of honey, and of wine mentioned in the Quran - f.x verse 47/15 - (but not in the Bible). Of them 2 continue on Earth: The Nile and the Euphrates. You are free to believe it.

392 48/5e: "- - - to dwell therein (Paradise*) for aye - - -". There is one verse in the Quran which may mean it is not quite forever. See 11/108c above.

393 48/6e: "- - - the Wrath of Allah - - -". - has never been proved. Numbers of claims, but never a proof.

394 48/6f: "- - - He (Allah*) has cursed them and got Hell ready for them (non-Muslims*)". This he cannot do unless he exist and in addition is either a god or a devil.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been identical.

395 48/6g: "- - - He (Allah*) has - - - got Hell ready for them (non-Muslims*)". Is this another indication for that Allah is the real top boss for Hell, like many Muslim scholars believe? (The logic is that if Allah is omnipotent, Iblis/the Devil cannot run Hell without Allah's permission). Some good and benevolent god in case.

#####396 48/10d: ANOTHER STRONG ONE FOR MUHAMMAD: "- - - then anyone who violates his oath (to Muhammad - see 48/10b above*), do so to the harm of his own soul, and anyone who fulfils what he has covenanted with Allah (in reality with Muhammad*) - Allah will soon grant him a great Reward (free of charge for Muhammad*)". No comment should be necessary here, except; "no payment does Muhammad ask for his preaching".

**397 48/15b: “Those who lagged behind (did not take active part in the battle or fight*) (will say), when ye (the “real” warriors*) (are free to) march and take booty (in war) - - -”. The stealing and robbing and taking of slaves and raping of girls and women, are for the active warriors only - a huge incentive for poor, uneducated ruffians. Is it partly the same effect we see in Darfur and saw f.x. in Bangladesh and East Timor? - easy to find warriors, and most inhuman behavior. May such things happen other places if Islam grows strong enough and fanatics - or the "right" kind of mullahs or imams - take over the leadership? There are tendencies in London, and many of the 9/11 terrorists came from Hamburg - not to mention the unrest in many cities in France in 2006, and for that case in some a little liberal countries in (North) Africa where fanatics want to take over power (one exception may - just may - be Turkey, which has been secular since Ataturk in the 1920s. There may be a chance. Strangely enough also Bangladesh and Malaysia have a small chance to become human democracies - and perhaps Jordan and a couple of the emirates benevolent dictatorships. But the rest of the entire Muslim world either is in the grip of fanatics or is drifting that way at present - towards what some call Muslim radicalism, others Muslim conservatism - likely the most correct expression - and even others Islamism, but which all just are different names for fanatics). (This was written before the unrest in Muslim countries in 2011).

What had the world looked like today if the Muslim world had not petrified into stony fundamentalism and stagnated? - if the Muslim world who had developed the industrial revolution and superior weapons and ways of fighting instead of the West? You can bet against very heavy odds that the world now had been ruled by imams, and without any realistic chance of ever becoming a free world.

***398 48/16h: “- - - but if ye (see first part of 48/16a above*) turn back (refuse to fight*) as ye did before, He (Allah*) will punish you with a grievous Penalty”. Very clear words from Muhammad and then Islam: Do battle or end in Hell. Some nice "Religion of Peace"! Try to find things like this in NT! One more at least 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of anything of any consequence.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical. Similar goes for the paradises.

399 48/16i: "- - - He (Allah*) will punish you (Bedouins*) with a grievous Penalty (for not going on raids and to war*)". The good and benevolent god for "the religion of peace"?

400 48/17g: "- - - (Allah) will admit him (the warrior*) to Gardens - - -". This Allah only can do if he exists and if he is a god, none of which is proved.

401 48/18d: "- - - He (Allah*) rewarded them (Muhammad and his Muslims*) with a speedy Victory - - -". Allah or the military realities? "Gott mit uns" - "the god is with us" - is a frequently used propaganda slogan, but may be Napoleon was more honest and correct, when he said "the god is with the strongest armies".

####402 48/19a: "And many gains will they (Muslims*) acquire (besides) - - -". Well, a good number of Muslims became rich or at least well off from plunder, extortion, slave taking, etc. But we have never till this day met a single Muslim - not to mention a Muslim religious or profane leader or Islam itself - reflecting on what price others had to pay for that. You meet boasting about riches and power, but never a thought about the victims. And as it was "good and lawful" according to Muhammad, none of them will ever do or think so - not among the religious Muslims at least. That is ethics and moral in Islam.

As said the price paid by the victims NEVER interested neither Allah, nor the Muslims, nor Muhammad. What does this tell about them? - and about Islam?

403 48/20f: (A48/23 – in 2008 edition A22): “Allah has promised you many gains that ye shall acquire - - -.” Booty. A good and cheap way to get warriors. But does it here only talk about “gold and slaves and a few rapes” in this life (may be Khaybar in this case), or also riches in the next life like among others Ibn Abbas thought?

The price paid by the victims NEVER interested neither Allah, nor the Muslims, nor Muhammad. What does this tell about them? - and about Islam?

404 48/24d: "And Allah sees well all that ye (people*) do". The carrot and the stick: Allah sees all good deeds and rewards them. But Allah also sees all bad deeds and punishes them, so do not try to cheat. Also see 2/233h above.

405 49/17b: "- - - Allah has conferred a favor upon you (Muslims*) that He has guided you to the Faith - - -". Like in all other religions saying similar things, it only is true that it is a favor, if the teachings are true and from a god.

406 49/18e: "- - - Allah sees well all that ye (Muslims*) do". Once more the carrot and the stick: Allah sees and rewards all good deeds, so stay good and obedient. But Allah also sees and punishes all bad deeds, so do not try to cheat. Also see 2/233h above.

p>407 50/34a: "(Allah? will say:*) 'Enter ye (Muslims*) therein (Paradise*) in Peace and Security this is the Day of Eternal life". This sentence may - may - be true if Allah exists, if he is a major god, and if the Quran has told the full truth and only the truth.

408 50/34b: "- - - eternal life - - -". But according to 11/108c Paradise may not be quite for eternity. In the Bible there is no doubt Paradise is forever.

409 50/35a: "There (in Paradise) will be for them (Muslims*) all that they wish - - -". A parallel to 50/34a-b above. Also see 10/9a above.

410 51/13c: (A51/8 - translated from Swedish): "This "trial over fire" (fitnat an-nar) may be added to the other indications for that the pain in the next world in what is named Hell shall not last forever - - -". Also see 51/13a above.

411 51/14a: "Taste ye (non-Muslims*) your trial (Hell*)!". But why - WHY - does a predestining, omniscient god need to try and test people!???

412 51/15d: "- - - Gardens and Springs - - -". The Quran's Paradise is a Paradise for dwellers of hot deserts - like in Arabia; water, shade, cool temperature, etc. For large parts of the world good weather, sunshine, good temperature, etc. would be Paradise. Allah is a god for Arabia, Sahara, etc. it seems. A god for the entire world had not nearly only used pictures relevant mainly for people from hot desert areas - Arabisms.

The large and fundamental differences between Yahweh's Paradise and Allah's one, are one of the strong proofs for that the two are not the same god.

413 52/17-24: A description of life in Muhammad's Paradise: Good food, good drinks, lazy life, houris/lots of sex (for men), your children around you (how is that possible as there will be hundred generations?), luxury, servants, etc., etc., like a royal life in the dreams of poor, naive, and primitive warriors - - - and universes away from Yahweh's Paradise, where you "will become like the angels (Mark 12/25). Yahweh and Allah the same god? - no chance!! One of the at least 200% proofs.

414 52/18: "(Muslims in Paradise are) Enjoying the (bliss) which their Lord (Allah*) hath bestowed on them". Only possible is Allah exists and is a major god.

415 52/19-20: (To them (Muslims in Paradise*) will be said) ’Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds.’ They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions (the famous houris*), with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.” What more can a poor, virile young – or old – uneducated and uncultivated and uncultured man from the desert dream about? Also see 10/9f and 52/17-24 above.

416 52/20a: "They (Muslims in Paradise*) will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks - - -". Those ranks must be enormous - - - and stereotype and monotonously boring. And very different from the Paradise described in the Bible where you "become like the angels in Heaven" - f. x. Matt 22/30. The same Paradise and the same god? No chance. Too much is fundamentally different. As said: The big differences between the two paradises proves at least 200% that they do not belong to the same god - and thus that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god no matter how strongly the Quran and Muhammad claim so. (Because someone says something, it is not necessarily true - and even more so when the one/ones saying so is/are very unreliable.)

##417 52/20b: “- - - and We (Allah*) shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.” The famous houris. Like 37/48 and 42/25 above – see them. The introduction of houris by Muhammad into Islam seems to come from old Persian pagan religion, where they were named paaris.

One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - their paradises are too different. And the fact that Jesus prohibited polygamy in any form - and also rape (sex where the woman/houri has no choice) - is one of the really strong proofs for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion, not to mention the same line of prophets.

418 52/21d: "- - - to them (Muslims in Paradise*) shall we join their families - - -". But what about the families of the family in the next generation - and the next generation - and the next generation - and generations number 50 and 100? A big mêlée at best?

419 52/23: “They shall there exchange, one with another, a (lowing) cup free of frivolity, free of all taint of ill.” A good cup of wine in Paradise - - - but likely without alcohol(?)

Another point: In Allah's Paradise people needed food and drink and enjoyed a number of other bodily pleasures. In Yahweh's Paradise one became "like the angels in heaven". Even Muhammad admitted that angels do not eat food. Thus this is one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. If they had been, their Paradises had been one and the same.

420 52/24: “Round about them (Muslims and their houris*) will serve (devoted) to them, youths (handsome) as pearls well guarded”. These are the servants in Paradise – forever young, handsome men. There is said nothing about from where they come, and as normal in the Quran it is said not a word about how secondary persons in a story feel or like life, or how Paradise is for them. The central persons - you and the ones similar to you - are in Paradise "rich" and on top, and that is what counts – others are of little interest. Empathy with underdogs (f.x. women, houris, servants, slaves) does not exist in the Quran . Well, some to the poor Muslims (but do not give too much) and to orphans, but but for that you find no empathy. It does not exist in the Quran.

And there is another aspect to these handsome youths. The Quran frowns strongly at homosexuality, but all the same it at least some places is silently accepted. Are these youths a silent temptation - or more - in such a connection?".

Yet another proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god: One more serious difference between their paradises. There are no servants in Yahweh's Paradise according to the Bible. (There cannot be servants in a perfect paradise, because to be servants is not perfect for the servants, and a paradise which is not perfect for everyone living there, is not a perfect paradise. Similar can be said about houris, who have to be sex-dolls for even the most, selfish, rough, and primitive warrior. Yahweh's Paradise f.x. is no extended harem like Allah's.)

421 53/31d: "- - - He (Allah*) rewards those who do evil (by sending them to Hell*) - - -". Only if he exists and is a god powerful enough to do this. If he belongs to the dark forces, he may cheat people to Hell.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

422 53/31e: "- - - He (Allah*) rewards those who do evil, according to their deeds - - -". How can this be fair, if Allah predestines every detail of everybody's life like the Quran many places claims? - yes, even if he predestines only some of it, like some Muslims claim to try to explain away things - in contradiction to the Quran's very clear words? (And for that case: How can it be fair to reward for good deeds Allah has forced the doers to do?)

423 53/31i: "- - - do good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. Compare the Quran's moral code with "do against others like you want others do against you" and weep.

424 55/44a: “In the midst of boiling hot water will they (sinners in Hell*) wander around”. Another variety for a change. Normally Muhammad claimed they wandered around in fire. Boiling water is not mentioned in the Bible.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

425 55/44b: (A55/21): “In the midst of boiling hot water will they wander round!” But once more: Arab words may have more than one meaning. “Boiling water” – “hamim” – also may mean f. ex. “burning despair” or “biting cold”. Allah’s (?) correct meaning may be f.x. “- - - in the midst of burning despair will they wander to and fro”. Anyone can pick the meaning they prefer. And these variants also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has/have more than one meaning. Allah (?) really uses a clear language.

426 55/46e: (A55/22): “- - - there will be two Gardens (two Paradises*) - - -.” This is one of the mysterious mysteries in the clear-spoken Quran, and Islam has for 1400 years been guessing at what it means. F.x. “a Paradise for their (good Muslims’*) doing good deeds, and another for their avoiding of sins” (Zamakhshari), or “a Paradise comprising both spiritual and physical joys, as if it were two Paradises” (Razi), or a wandering between the two gardens the Paradise is said to contain. Yes, it is a very clear and concise language you find in the Quran. This even more so as according to the Quran there are at least 4 gardens (see 55/62 below) and according to Hadiths there may be 6 or even more.

427 55/48b: (A55/23): “- - - Containing all kinds (of trees and delights) - - -.” But we are back to the concise and distinct Arab language: The word “fann” (plural “afnan”), has many meanings: “kind”, “mode”, “manner”, color”, “hue”, “a wonderful thing” and more, and the plural form “afnan” may also mean “branch of a tree”, etc. which gives associations to a rich nature, cool shade, lots of different fruits, etc. Just go on guessing – this sentence has a number of possible meanings, so just guess for what kind of paradise you prefer. But remember that is only is guesswork. And these variants of course also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has/have more than one meaning. Allah(?) really uses a clear language in his(??) Quran.

428 55/56a: "In them (the gardens of Paradise*) will be (Maidens), restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before has touched". A nice Paradise for primitive men - and women does not count much in the Quran - but totally different from Yahweh's Paradise - only this verse proves so formidable difference to Yahweh (see f. x. Luke 20/36), that this alone proves that Yahweh and Allah cannot be the same god - and then there are all the other differences in addition.

429 55/56b: “In them (the Gardens of Paradise*) will be fair (Companions (houris*)), good, beautiful - - -.” Houris are a bit special kind of women, but the “fact” that they are given to the men arriving in Paradise as repayment for good (?) deeds, tells miles about Islam’s view of women. The servile nature of the houris – the ideal women – in the descriptions, also tells volumes about Islam’s point of view on how women shall behave.

There is no explanation in Islam from where the houris come - they simply are there. But the idea about houris as reward in paradise for warriors, it seems Muhammad has "borrowed" from the old Persian pagan religion (where they were named paaris) - see 55/56e below (nearly everything in Islam is borrowed from somewhere, and strangely(?) enough only from in and around Arabia - Allah had few, if any new ideas or ideas from other parts of Earth for his religion).

430 55/56c: "- - - (Maidens), chaste - - - whom no man or Jinn before them (the Muslims in Paradise*) has touched - - -". The houris are virgins at arrival, but hardly for a long time.

This indirectly also tells that the Jinns have the same kind of sex organs as humans. If not their males could not have sex with the same kind of women - here the houris - as human males.

Compare this to f.x. Matt.22/30: "At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven". 200+% sure that Yahweh and Allah do not run the same paradise, and thus are not the same god. And as these are the words of Jesus: As sure that Jesus and Muhammad do not belong in the same moral world neither in this nor in a possible next life. A lot of things in this world are not true even if they are repeated often - f.x. that Jesus and Muhammad belong to the same line of prophets (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he did not have the gift of prophesying).

**431 55/56e: The Muslim Paradise is quite like the Zoroastrian one. (Zoroastrians mainly lived in Persia, one of the big trading partners for Arabia. The Arabs knew that religion – hardly as well as the Mosaic or the Christian religions, but at least superficially.) The houris there were named paaris. Also see 19/71 above. (Also the Jewish and Christian - and the Muslim one - hell may have got some inspiration from the Zoroastrian one.)

432 55/62a: “And besides these two (see 55/46a+b+c*), there are two other Gardens - - -”. Paradise for normal humans is split in at least 4 gardens (perhaps more according to Hadiths), and there they are different according how good a Muslim and how fierce a warrior you have been in this life – the more according to Muhammad’s ideals you have lived and fought, the better garden you will end up in. But all the 4 are paradises with two springs each, plenty of fruits, rich carpets for resting on and plenty of women/houris “- - -(Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them (the Muslims*) has touched (= virgins*) - - -”. Royal earthly standard of living and virgins for free use at your convenience.

The difference in the “geographical” description seems to be that the best gardens have even more plentiful water, and they are dark green from the abundance of water – really a paradise for poor and primitive desert dwellers. It does not take much to make a perfect paradise for naïve and primitive people.

It still is said little about how Paradise is for children and women, included the houris.

(We may add that according to Hadiths the Nile and the Euphrates starts in the Gardens of Paradise. Unbelievable? Yes, but it is a fact that Hadiths say so).

433 55/62b: (A55/28): “And besides these two, there will be two other Gardens - - -.” Another conundrum for Islam: What for? There also should have been a “Why”, but this we have not run across. So “What for?” May be for the lower quality good Muslims – the ones who have obtained less merit? – or may be a symbol for “many gardens” – but the Quran only mentions these 2 + 2, and do not even hint about more ones (though Hadiths do). Or - - -? Your guess is as good as anybody’s because nobody knows. As indicated before: The Quran uses a clear and concise language giving only exact information.

434 55/70: "In them (the gardens*) will be fair (Companions), good, beautiful - - -". These are the famous houris. There is nowhere - absolutely nowhere - in the Quran said anything about how the men's wives like these beautiful virgins as playmates for their husbands. And also absolutely nowhere how the houris like to be sex toys for - often - rough, primitive warriors. Such details seem to interest neither Allah nor Muhammad. Also see 55/56a-c above.

435 55/74: "(Houris*) Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched." In the Quran it is not directly said that the houris are for sex. But what do you believe young - and not young - primitive warriors thought about when they were told details like this? Also see 55/56a-c and 55/70 above.

This also tells that the Jinns have the same kind of sex organs as humans. If not their males could not have sex with the same kind of women - here the houris - as human males.

436 55/76: (YA5220): “- - - reclining on green Cushions - - -“. But the Arab word “rafraf” may also mean “meadows” = “- - - on green meadows”.

437 56/7+10a: “(At the Day of Doom*) ye shall be sorted out in three classes. - - -. And those (the class*) Foremost (in Faith) will be the foremost (in the Hereafter)”. There are classes also in Paradise (and according to other verses and to Hadith, they are split in at least 4 or 6 sub-classes + the higher heavens for outstanding Muslims).(And 7 classes in Hell.) A reality if it is a reality. A good way of motivating followers and warriors – strive and fight harder and advance in the next life – or for the ruler(s) and spoils of war only, if the religion is made up, which at least the Quran is (by man or dark forces - no god was involved in a book of that quality).

438 56/9: "- - - what will be the Companions of the Left Hand?" According the other places those will be the bad people, going to Hell - the left side was the bad side in Arabia.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

439 56/10a: “And those Foremost (in Faith (this inclusion is added by A. Yusuf Ali and not part of the original text*)), will be the foremost (in the Hereafter (also added*))”. It is not clear who are reckoned to be foremost in faith - in this case it may be logical to believe it means the best Muslims, but see 56/10b just below. Anyhow the so-called foremost, seems to be the ones ending in higher heavens - there are 7 all together, according to Islam. Also see 56/11 below.

440 56/10b: (A56/3 – omitted in 2008 edition): “And those Foremost (in Faith (this inclusion is added by A. Yusuf Ali and not part of the original text*)), will be the foremost (in the Hereafter (also added*))”. But the Arab word “as-sabiqun” – here translated by “the foremost” - has more meanings, which has lead to different interpretations of this sentence, and those interpretations (translated from Swedish): “all are god and can be accepted” (Ibn Kathir). It has to be admitted that also here the clear and concise language in the Quran is not concise - and pretty unclear. And these variants also - as we have said many times - are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has/have more than one meaning. Allah (?) really uses a clear language.

441 56/11: "These (the best Muslims*) will be those nearest to Allah". Hadiths describes this as the better you are of the top Muslims, the higher heaven you will end in Paradise - Muhammad of course in the highest, no. 7, together with Abraham. Jesus, however, is not much above an average Muslim, it seems, because he only ends in the 2. heaven - the real reason may be that he was the only real competitor for Muhammad, and should be reduced as much as possible.

442 56/15-16: “(They (the pious Muslims*) will be) on Thrones encrusted (with gold and precious stones), reclining on them, facing each other”. This means long double rows of thrones – millions or perhaps a few billions of thrones in double rows facing each other. More, if also the women and children and all the houris shall recline on thrones. Also there has to be some space between the rows, as there have to be places for resting on carpets as mentioned in other verses, and for the fruit trees and the water.

But endless double rows of thrones does not sound like our idea of a perfect paradise, no matter how many houris for free use and good food and drinks, as the nearly only pastime is some polite and not intellectually demanding conversation - the only alternative mentioned. See also quote 56/25-26 below.

443 56/15-23: A description of Allah's Paradise. Does anyone see any difference between this and a poor, naive, uneducated warrior's dream of a royal life included a suitable harem, and this? Very - VERY - different from Yahweh's Paradise in the Bible, where you "become like the angels" (f. x. Luke 20/36). Another point: In Yahweh's Paradise there is no houris and even no married couples any more - no sex. And being like an angel, you need no food - a sharp contrast to Muhammad's description of delicious things to eat and drink. Yahweh the same god as Allah? You are free to believe it if you are logically blind.

444 56/17: “Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual freshness - - -.” Again these mysterious servants. The Quran is totally disinterested in them and tells nothing about them except that they look attractive – the only person of interest is the Muslim adult man – strangely the same one who can be warriors for Muhammad and his successors. Others do not count much. But there is a hidden fact here: Homosexuality is strongly frown at in Islam, but all the same silently accepted in some areas. The description of these youths, makes one wonder.

And: What are they - the servants and the houris? Where do they come from? How is Paradise for them? (Some Muslim scholars speculate about the possibility that they may be humans who died as babies or children - but their parents are promised to have their children as part of Paradise, and then they cannot be servants or sex doll for others.)

##445 56/18-20: “(Servants) with goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains (of wine*): No after-ache will they receive therefrom, nor will they be suffering intoxication: (and good food – meat and fruits*) - - -.” This surah is from ca. 615 AD – before Allah found out that alcohol was not good. But at least in Paradise even in 615 AD you did not grow ill or get a head-ache from plenty of wine. One may here remember that in the pre-Muslim Arabia, sex and alcohol were the two delightful things - Muhammad's god seems to satisfy both, perhaps even homosexuality on top . Is the word "populism" hidden somewhere in the Quran? (If you go looking, you find it many places).

446 56/20-21: "And with fruits, any that they (Muslims in Paradise*) may select: And with the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire". There is excellent food in the Quran's Paradise - - - but in the Bible's Paradise you are like angels (f. x. Mark 12/25) and do not need food - there is not one word about need of food or drink in Paradise in the entire Bible. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Just guess. Actually the fundamental differences in the two paradises are one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

447 56/22: “And (there will be) Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes - - -.” The Houris again - like 37/48a-c above – see that or 55/56c. There are no houris in the Bible's Paradise. Yahweh and Allah the same god? - no, not even if there is heavy schizophrenic, as schizophrenia cannot explain so highly different Paradises. One of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

448 56/23: "Like unto Pearls well-guarded". The houris are beautiful like valuable pearls.

As you see Muhammad "borrowed" good(?) ideas from where he found them. This is not the only "good" idea - at least a good idea for tempting primitive tribe warriors - from this old Persian pagan religion.

###449 56/24: “(The houris are*) A reward for the Deeds of their past (life).” How do women like to simply be a reward to some previously unknown – and often uncultivated – man? – and to be his sex slave or sex doll for eternity? A Paradise? This kind of sex-trade in the name of the god, gives us a sick and distasteful feeling. Paradise like a luxury brothel? What is for sure is that this claimed paradise is not even a distant relative of the one in the NT. The same god? Do not be ridiculous - a 200% proof.

The "institution" of houris - sex slaves - Muhammad borrowed from the old pagan Zoroastrians - the religion of the old Persia. There they were named paaris.

450 56/25-26: “Not frivolity will they hear therein, nor any taint of ill – Only the saying, ‘Peace, Peace!” It is to be hoped that even if one is resurrected with exactly the old body from this life, the brain will be much changed – eternity with only these pastimes will be boring to the extreme for intelligent and intellectually active persons, and also for others used to have something to do.

451 56/27: "The Companions of the Right Hand - - -". Muslims - bound for the Quran's Paradise - see 10/9f above. In the old Arabia right was the lucky or good side and left the unlucky or bad side. By coincidence(?) it seems that this superstition also is shared by Allah.

452 56/27-34: “The companions of the right hand (here the good, but not top pious and/or warriors*) - - - (will be) among the Lote-trees without thorns - - - trees with flowers (or fruits) piled one above another - - - in shade - - - by water flowing constantly, and fruits in abundance - - - and on Thrones (of Dignity) - - -(and houris in the next verses – their wives are not mentioned*) - - -“. Not quite like the top class, but at least “on par” with kings and likely the top of dreams possible for uneducated, primitive more or less brutes. But each and every thing in reality just fit to satisfy basic and base earthly dreams of men and potential warriors of the primitive kind and from primitive circumstances. Not a thing beyond that. Compare this to f.x. Matt. 22/30: "At the resurrection (= in Paradise*) people will neither marry not be given in marriage (not to mention sex outside marriage*); they will be like the angels in heaven". Yahweh and Allah the same god with so different Paradises? - an imbecile question. And a 200% proof for the opposite.

453 56/30-31: "- - - In shade long-extended, by water flowing constantly - - -". An Arabism. The Quran's Paradise mirrors the dreams of dwellers in hot deserts. Hardly any place in the Quran you find the dreams of people from chilly and perhaps wet countries. Did not Allah know such places existed when he(?) made his holy book for all Earth?

Not from the Bible.

454 56/32: "- - - fruit in abundance - - -". Earthly luxury. And a small detail mentioned by the Hadiths: No matter how much you eat and drink, you never have to go to the toilet in Paradise.

Not from the Bible. According to the Bible you become like the angels (f.x. Matt. 22/30), and according to standard belief, angels do not need fruits or other food. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - their paradises are different, and too different.

455 56/34a: "- - - (Muslims in Paradise will sit*) on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high". The maker of the Quran is unable to go beyond the bodily and the social pleasures - the top dreams of members of backwater primitives. F.x the intellect will go very hungry in Muhammad's Paradise - bored beyond anything credible in the long run.

Very different from the Bible. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. If they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same.

456 56/34b: "- - - (Muslims in Paradise will sit*) on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high". But the Arab text (A56/13) in reality says "- - - on couches raised high". But to sit on couches does not sound as dignified.

457 56/35: “We (Allah*) have created (their Companions (houris*)) of special creation". This may be the reason why nobody knows from where they come. It is a mystery in Islam. (But the idea came from Persia.)

The houris simply were sex slaves and courtesans, an idea extremely far from the Bible's, Yahweh's, and Jesus' Paradise. A very strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

458 56/35-37a: “We (Allah*) have created (their Companions (houris*)) of special creation. And made them virgin-pure (and undefiled) – beloved (by nature), equal in age (for good Muslim men in Paradise*) - - -.” Houris are a bit special kind of women, but the “fact” that they are given to the men arriving in Paradise as repayment for good (?) deeds, tells miles and square miles about Islam’s view of women. The servile nature of the houris – the ideal women – in the descriptions, also tells volumes about Islam’s point of view on how women shall behave.

The houris simply were sex slaves and courtesans, an idea extremely far from the Bible's, Yahweh's, and Jesus' Paradise. A very strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion. (The idea of houris is "borrowed" from Persian old religion, where they were named paaris.)

459 57/11e: "- - - a liberal reward". Paradise. If Allah exists. And if the Quran has told the full truth and only the truth.

460 57/12f: "Good News for you (Muslims*) on this Day". - if Allah exists, is a major god and everything is correctly described in the Quran.

461 57/12h: "Gardens beneath which flow rivers!. The Quran's and Islam's Paradise - see 10/9f above. This expression also is the most used Arabism in the Quran - a river is one of the big dreams for dwellers of a hot desert.

462 57/12i: "To dwell therein (Paradise*) for aye!" Well, if everything in the Quran is true. But in 11/108c you will find an indication for that may be Paradise is not quite forever - Islam is not able to explain this point (like so many others).

463 57/12j: "This (Paradise*) is indeed the highest Achievement". This may well be true, but only if the Quran's Paradise exists, and only if the good Muslims end there. As the Quran with all its errors, etc. is not from any god, these are very open questions.

464 57/13f: "Within it (Islam/the gate to Paradise*) will be Mercy throughout - - -". See 1/1a and read the immoral parts of the Quran's moral and ethical codes, not to mention the unjust and/or immoral parts of the sharia laws, and see if you agree.

465 57/13g: "- - - without it (outside Islam/the gate of Paradise*), all alongside, will be (Wrath and) Punishment!" For one thing this is a never documented claim, and for another: See 3/77b above.

466 57/15c: "Your (non-Muslims'*) abode (in the presumed next life*) is the Fire - - -". This only may be true if Allah exists and is a god, if the Quran tells the truth and only the truth, and if you in addition do not believe in a real god. Also see 3/77b above.

467 57/15d: "- - - that (Hell*) is the proper place to claim you (non-Muslim*) - - -". Now we once more are back to the very big differences between the moral and ethical codes of Yahweh contra the ones of Allah - one of the strongest proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god: Even if you are bound for Hell according to Allah, you may be a very good person and merit Heaven according to Yahweh (and the other way around), so maybe Yahweh will intervene?

We may add that parts of the Quran's moral, ethical, and judicial codes are very special, and only fit a war and apartheid religion - just compare it to "do unto others like you want others do unto you" and judge yourself.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

468 57/19g: "- - - they (good Muslims*) shall have their Reward and their Light". This only may be true if Allah exists and is a major god, and if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth.

469 57/19k: "- - - they are Companions of Hell-Fire." = they are bound for Hell.

470 58/16c: "- - - the Path of Allah - - -". The road to Allah and his Paradise. The road may exist if Allah exists and is a god.

471 58/17b: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) will be Companions of the Fire - - -". Possible - if Allah exists, if he is a major god, if the non-Muslim do not believe in another, really existing god (f.x. Yahweh whom both the Bible and the Quran claims exists, though the Quran wrongly mixes him up with Allah) - - - and if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth.

472 58/22l: "- - - to dwell therein (in Paradise*) (for ever)". Verse 11/108c may indicate that perhaps Paradise is not quite forever. Muslims have problems with explaining this one, but often claim that it just means that the inhabitants will be transferred to an even better Paradise, but this is not said in the Quran.

473 58/22m: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See f.x. 2/2b or57/22g above.

474 59/17a: "The end of both (non-Muslims*) will be that they will go into the Fire - - -". This is another not documented claim in the Quran. But there is an open question: The Bible claims and the Quran admits that the old Jewish and Christian god Yahweh exists (though the Quran wrongly mixes him up with Allah) - and if any or both of those two books tell the truth Yahweh even has proved both his existence and his power. Whereas exactly nothing is proved about Allah - not even his existence - everything just is an unproved claim from a man believing in dishonest methods and with much to gain if people believed in his tales. Who are most likely to end in the fire for believing in a not existing deity - Jews or Muslims?

And there also is the fact that there are such wide gaps between the Quran's moral code of war, and normal moral codes, that even if one is doomed to Hell by Allah, Yahweh may strongly disagree and judge you are a good persons worthy of Paradise. (Compare "do against others like you want others do against yourself" to the two's moral codes, and judge for yourself.)

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

475 59/19b: "- - - He (Allah) made them (non-Muslims*) forget their own souls!" This is wrong unless Allah exists and in addition is a god. Well, it may be right also if Allah is from the dark forces.

476 59/20a: “Not equal are the Companions of the Fire and the Companions of the Garden: it is the Companions of the Garden that will achieve Felicity.” There is no doubt: In the eyes of Allah the Muslims are best. And in the eyes of Muhammad they surely were best - - - because they gave him power and warriors? But at least the eyes of Allah will depend on if he exists or not.

477 59/20b: "- - - the Companions of the Fire - - -". Those bound for Hell - the non-Muslims.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been identical.

478 59/20c: "- - - the Companions of the Garden - - -". Those bound for Allah - the Muslims.

479 61/12a: “(If you go to war and/or are killed for Muhammad*) He (Allah*) will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of eternity - - -.” There once was a cheap book named “All this and Heaven too”. It is similar here: All the rape and stealing and slaves you can manage – and for those good, benevolent deeds for your as benevolent god: The Paradise with more luxury and more women. Nice and attractive for naïve, poor and virile – not to say virulent – uncivilized young and not young men.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

#480 61/12i: "- - - that (Allah's paradise*) is the Supreme Achievement". There is no doubt that Yahweh's paradise as described in the Bible sounds more tempting - where you become like angels (f.x. Mark 12/25). Allah's paradise is a worthy reward from a king or an emperor. Yahweh's paradise is a worthy reward from a god.

481 64/10g: "- - - Companions of the Fire - - -". People bound to end Hell.

482 65/11o: "- - - to dwell therein (Paradise*) for ever - - -". Verse 11/108c indicates that Paradise may be is not quite forever. Islam is a little at a loss how to explain that verse. The favorite explanation is that the good Muslims in Paradise then will be moved to an even better place, but this is not said in the Quran - it is based on wishful thinking.

483 65/11q: "Allah hath indeed granted for them (good Muslims*) a most excellent Provision". If he exists, if he is a benevolent god - and if the Quran tells the truth on this point.

484 66/8c: "- - - Gardens beneath which Rivers flow - - -". The Quran's and Islam's Paradise - see 10/9f above. It also is the most frequently used Arabism in the Quran.

485 77/16a: "Did We (Allah*) not destroy the men of the old (for their evil)?". The god of "the religion of peace" is a very bloody one, and the Quran claims he killed lots and lots of people and tribes and nations - Yahweh is a teacher in a Sunday school in addition.

486 77/16b: "Did We (Allah*) not destroy the men of the old (for their evil)?". In and around Arabia there were ruins and empty settlements, and there also were tales about old, disappeared tribes. Muhammad claimed they all were killed by Allah because of sins against him. Science has a number of other possible explanations in a warlike, arid area.

A naive curiosum: A short time ago the authorities in Pakistan debated to make some old ruins accessible for tourists. Locals instead proposed to put up placards warning people that such were the result of sinning against Allah(!).

487 77/30-33: “Depart ye (sinners*) to a Shadow (of smoke ascending) in three columns, (which yields) no shade of coolness, and is of no use against the fierce blaze. Indeed it throws sparks (huge) as Forts - - -.” This is about the trip from the place of Doom to Hell.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been identical.

488 77/35-38a: “That (the Day of Doom*) will be a Day when they (the sinners*) shall not be able to speak. Nor will it be open to them to put forth pleas. Ah woe, that Day, to the Rejecters of Truth! That will be a Day of Sorting out! We (Allah*) shall gather you together and those before (you)!” If Islam is a made up religion to manipulate people to gain a platform of power for Muhammad, and to gain blindly believing followers, Muhammad used exactly the right psychology – and the psychology used by many a starter of extreme sects or religions: Isolate the prospects as much as possible to hinder too much correcting information and questions, flood them with claimed truths, and use a mixture of honey and the stick – here Heaven and Hell. The old and well tested method for such leaders.

That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been identical.

489 77/35-38b: “That (the Day of Doom*) will be a Day when they (the sinners*) shall not be able to speak. Nor will it be open to them to put forth pleas. Ah woe, that Day, to the Rejecters of Truth! That will be a Day of Sorting out! We (Allah*) shall gather you together and those before (you)!” But we are back to the fact that as there are so huge differences between the moral code of Islam and the "gold standard"; "do against others like you want others do against you", and as Yahweh - and Jesus - goes by that standard at least in NT and the New Covenant (f.x. Luke 22/20), a lot of people will qualify for Yahweh's Paradise, even if they qualify for Allah's Hell - and the other way around (a sobering fact if Allah is a made up god).

490 77/41d: "- - - (cool) shades and springs (of water)". The Arab desert dweller's dream of a paradise - far from f.x. the Inuit's or Samoyed's or for that case the North Europeans' or the original inhabitants of Tierra del Fuego's dream about nice sunshine and not too much rain and water. All the "Arabism" makes Allah seem to be a god for desert Arabs mainly.

Also remember that the many and deep differences between Yahweh’s Paradise and the one of Allah, are one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

491 77/43a: "Eat ye (Muslims in Paradise*) to your heart's content - - -". As said before: The Muslim Paradise is just a luxury version of how poor, ignorant, and naive primitive warriors in a dry land could dream a kings holiday was like. What kind of primitive god could not do better than this? - and it on top of all in reality(!?) only is a man's paradise. (In Scandinavia one could say "a man's paradise in double meaning" because sex not based on love often is called "paring" or "parring" - so "paring" in "paradise" is a paradise for men - - - for a time. (Sex is not named in the Muslim paradise in the Quran, but all the same very central).

Also remember that the many and deep differences between Yahweh’s Paradise and the one of Allah, are one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

492 77/47a: "Ah woe, that Day, to the Rejecters of the Truth". That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact. See 3/77b above.

493 78/17c: "- - - the Day of Sorting Out is a thing appointed - - -". Once more the predestination - Allah predestines everything included the Day of Doom according to his unchangeable Plan.

494 78/18b: "- - - ye (people*) shall come forth (for doom*) in crowds - - -". This is one of the many never proved claims in the Quran, which cannot be true unless Allah exists, a claim which is proved nowhere. (But it is one of the many places where Allah - if he exists - may act even if he is from the dark forces, if only he has enough power).

495 78/23: (A12): “They (sinners*) will dwell therein (Hell*) for ages.” This is a not too well known, ####but deep enigma in Islam: The Quran is unclear about if you are to stay in Hell forever, or only for a limited time – a kind of long time Purgatory simply. Many places the book says clearly and unmistakably that it is forever. Other places it uses words that indicate a limited time – perhaps a long time, but a limited time, or that Allah can do something at least for Muslims in Hell (see f.x. 6/128c, 11/107b, and 43/74d). In this case the Arab word that is used, “huqb” or “hiqbah” (remember that some of the letters have to be guessed) have vague meanings as for how long time, but definitely not “for ever”. Also some Hadiths clearly indicate that Hell may be is not forever. (And 11/108a may indicate that also Paradise is not quite forever). Clear?

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

496 78/30d: "- - - no increase (in your good marks in Heaven*) shall We (Allah*) grant you (non-Muslims*), except in Punishment". See 3/77b above.

497 78/31b: "Verily, for the Righteous there (in Paradise*) will be a fulfillment of (the Heart's) desires - - -". Is this really fulfillment of the heart's desires of Muslims?? - good food, good things to drink, good cloths, a nice climate, a nice and peaceful place to live, no work - and plenty of sex for the men? Is that all? Nothing to do and nothing to do for the mind, f. x.? Primitive dreams. A primitive and in a short time a very boring paradise. And now we talk about the men, for whom Islam and its paradise both are made to measure. We have not even mentioned the women and how life in Paradise must be for them.

498 78/31e: "- - - fulfillment (in Paradise) of (the Heart's) desire". The Quran tells about lots of earthly luxury + for men plenty of sex (little for women). Personally I have fantasy enough to have a number of other desires in my heart/brain than sex, good food, non-alcoholic wine, silk cloths, etc. - desires not satisfied in Islam's paradise, at least not according to the description in the Quran.

499 78/37a: "(Paradise is a gift from) the Lord (Allah*) - - -". Similar often claimed, never proved - - - and it is a normal claim for most religions, Islam included.

500 79/39: "The Abode (for non-Muslims*) will be Hell-fire". See 3/77b above.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

501 79/41a: "Their (Muslims'*) abode will be the Garden". If Allah exists and is a god - and if the Quran has told the full truth and only the truth.

502 80/22b: "- - - He (later*) will raise him (the man*) up again". This claim - resurrection made by Allah - is a claim which appears several places in the Quran, and we find it a very interesting one, because in the entire Quran there is not one single case of resurrection - only the big words. In contrast you find resurrections backed by Yahweh several places in the Bible, both in the old and the New testament. If we presume that the books are correct on this point, Allah/Muhammad - like always - have proved nothing and may be bluffing, whereas Yahweh has proved his existence and power. If, like said, the books tell the truth here.

503 80/38-39: "Some faces that Day (of Doom*) will be beaming, Laughing, rejoicing". = The Muslims.

504 80/40-41: "And other faces that Day (of Doom*) will be dust-stained, Blackness will cover them - - -". = Non-Muslims.

505 83/25-26: (A83/8): “Their (the Muslims in Paradise*) thirst will be slacked with Pure Wine sealed; the seal thereof will be musk - - -.” But once again: An Arab word - “kithamuhu” - with more than one meaning. This clearly means that there may be more meanings to the original Arab text. F.x.: “They will be given a drink whereon the seal (of Allah) will have been set.” Then: Is Allah’s or Muhammad’s real and exact meaning clear to you? And these variants of course also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has/have more than one meaning. Allah (?) really uses a clear language.

506 83/34a: "But on this Day the Believers (Muslims*) will laugh at the Unbelievers (going to Hell*) - - -". Like said before; empathy - or for that case sympathy or compassion - does not exist in the Quran, at least not concerning non-Muslims.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been identical.

507 83/34e: "- - - this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers - - -". One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god: NT makes it pretty clear that that not even the god laughs at lost souls. And good Christians feel compassion, but not so good Muslims it seems. This - compassion and the weight laying of this - is a VERY telling difference between the two religions. And between the two claimed gods.

508 84/6c: "- - - thou (man*) shalt meet Him (Allah, at the Day of Doom*)". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells you will meet Yahweh this day, not Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

509 84/8-9: "Soon will his (Muslim's*) account be taken by an easy reckoning, and he will turn to his people, rejoicing!" Only if Allah exists, and if the Quran has told the full truth and only the truth. (If f.x. the Bible has told the truth, few Muslims will rejoice - and it is very clear from all its errors, etc. that the Quran at least has not told neither only nor the full truth).

510 84/23: "Bur Allah has full Knowledge of what they conceal (in their hearts)". Then why does he have to test them? - or is this only an "explanation" used by Muhammad because he wanted warriors? Also see 2/233h above.

511 85/9d: "And Allah is Witness to all things". Why then does he need witnesses? And why does he need to test even his followers ( - - - or is it Muhammad who needed an "explanation" for wanting warriors)?

512 85/10b: "- - - the Penalty of Hell - - -". See 3/77b above.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been identical.

513 85/10c: "- - - the Penalty of the Burning Fire". The same as "the Penalty of Hell" in 84/10b just above. But as there are several parts of Hell, one worse than the other, perhaps one of the worse parts.

514 85/11d: "- - - Gardens; beneath which Rivers flow - - -". The Quran's and Islam's Paradise - see 10/9f above. This also is the most frequently used Arabism in the Quran.

And not to forget: One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, as their paradises are too different.

515 85/11e: "- - - that (Paradise*) is the great Salvation - - -". If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth about this.

516 85/13b: "- - - and He (Allah*) can restore (life)". Once more this interesting claim - interesting because Allah never one single time has proved he has this power, whereas if the Quran or the Bible tells the truth on this point, Yahweh has done so. And we remind you that the never proved Islamic claim that Allah = Yahweh is not true (the teachings fundamentally too different), and that science - and even more so Islam - has proved that the Bible is not falsified.

517 87/11a: "But (admonition*) will be avoided by those most unfortunate ones (non-Muslims". That non-Muslims are the unfortunate ones is true only if the Quran is from a god and in addition tells the full truth and only the truth. And if the non-Muslims in addition do not believe in an existing god.

518 87/14b: "- - - those will prosper who purify themselves - - -". = Muslims will go to Paradise.

519 88/2a: "Some faces - - - will be humiliated - - -". The non-Muslim's ones.

520 88/4: "- - - the Blazing Fire - - -". Hell.

521 88/5: "- - - while they (non-Muslims*) are given, to drink, of a boiling hot spring". Hell is not only Hell, but pure torture and sadism.

522 88/6: “No food will there be for them (the “infidels” in Hell*) but a bitter dari (a dry bush with needles*) - - -.” Also in Hell, one need food and drink. But:

  1. 37/66: “- - - they (the “infidels” in Hell*) will eat thereof (the disgusting fruits of the zaqqum tree in Hell*) and fill their bellies therewith.” But there is also another small contradiction:
  2. 69/36: “Nor hat he (the “infidel” in Hell*) any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds”.

A small mystery: If the inmates of Hell cannot die, why then not stop eating and drinking these ugly things? - you go on living anyhow.

(2 contradictions.)

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been identical.

523 88/8a: "(Other) facts that Day will be joyful - - -". = the Muslims.

524 88/10-16: “In the Garden of high, where they (Muslims in Paradise*) shall hear no (word) of vanity: Therein will be a bubbling spring: Therein will be Thrones (of dignity), raised high, goblets (for wine*) placed (ready), and cushions set in rows, and rich carpets (all) spread out.” A nice picture – except when you think of hundreds of millions of people, each bound to his own clan as the son of a son of a son - - - etc., placed like that. Endless rows - or crowds - only. Some paradise - - - and one more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - their paradises are too different.

525 88/23-24: "But if any turn away and reject Allah - Allah will punish him with a mighty Punishment". This early (614 - 618 AD) it was for Allah to punish. But when Muhammad grew enough powerful, he too started to force and punish.

526 88/24: "- - - a mighty Punishment". See 3/77b above.

527 89/17-20: Different reasons for why non-Muslims or no good Muslims will end in Hell.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been identical.

528 90/13a: "(It is:) freeing a bondman - - -". (A90/7): "- - - the latter term (bondman*) covering all those forms of subjugation and exploitation - social, economical or political - which can be rightly described as 'slavery'" Does this include the subjugation of all non-Muslims, the exploitation of them by means of extra tax, often very heavy taxation of them, and refusing them any political and most other rights, which is the official goal for the Quran and Islam? (f.x. "suppress them till they pay zakat with willing submission").

529 90/13-16a: Different good deeds which may help you to reach Paradise.

530 90/15-16b: “(A good deed is among others*) the giving of food in a day of privation to the orphans with the claims of relationship.” Take care of the orphans.

531 90/18b: "- - - the Right Hand". In the Old Arabia the right hand was the good and lucky one. (Whereas the left hand was the unlucky one.) Is it a coincident that this superstition also is found in Heaven and thus also in the Quran?

532 90/19d: "- - - the (unhappy) companions of the Left Hand". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

533 91/8c "- - - right and wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code, partly unethical ethical code, partly unjust judicial code, etc.

534 92/10a: "We (Allah*) will indeed make smooth for him (non-Muslim*) the Path to Misery - - -". See 3/77b and 92/7a above.

535 92/11a: (A92/6): “Nor will his (a sinner’s*) wealth profit him when he falls head along (into the Pit).” A statement. Another possible translation: “- - - what will his wealth avail him when he goes down (to his grave)?” A question - one of the minor consequences – but does a god make even small things unclear?

536 92/17a: "But those most devoted to Allah shall be far removed from it (hell*) - - -". If Allah exists, and if he is a good and benevolent god (and not f.x. Iblis/the Devil dressed up like the arch angel Gabriel).

537 92/21a: "And soon (in Paradise*) will they attain (complete) satisfaction". Wrong if the Quran is not from a god or if it for some other reasons does not tell the only and full truth - - - not to mention if Allah does not exist, and even worse if there instead is/are other god(s) really existing - f.x. perhaps Yahweh exists?

538 95/5: "- - - We (Allah*) abase him (non-Muslims*) to the lowest of the low - - -". Non-Muslims are bad quality - stay away from them.

539 95/6c: "- - - a reward unfailing". The Quran's and Islam's Paradise - see 10/9f above.

540 96/8b: "- - - to thy (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) is the Return (of all) (at the Day of Doom". Wrong unless Allah exists and in addition is a major god - none of which is ever proved.

541 98/6d: "- - - (non-Muslims*) will be in Hell-Fire - - -". See 3/77b above.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

542 98/6e: "- - - to dwell therein (Hell*) (for aye)." But 6/128c, 11/107b and 78/23 may indicate not quite forever. (And 11/108c that perhaps also Paradise is not quite forever.)

543 101/6-9: The scale - balance - to weigh the good and the bad deeds. This is "borrowed" from "The Testament of Abraham" - one of the apocryphal (made up) scriptures. (Likely "the balance" originally is from religions further east (Zoroastrianism).)

544 101/8: "- - - those whose balance (of good deeds) will be (found) light - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims. (See this one together with 101/9 just below.)

545 101/9: “(The sinner*) Will have his home (Hell*) in a bottomless Pit.” Hell - it must be deep down somewhere.

Hell also is mentioned by name or in reality at least these places:

10/8 – 10/54 – 11/17 – 13/25 – 13/35 – 14/21 – 14/22 – 15/43 – 16/27 – 16/29 – 18/49 – 18/102 – 18/106 – 19/70 – 19/72 – 19/86 – 23/103 – 23/106-110 – 25/11 – 25/34 – 26/91 – 28/84 – 29/55 – 32/20 - 34/20-21 – 35/36 – 37/19-20 – 37/22-23 – 37/31-34 – 37/38-39 – 37/55 – 38/55 – 38/61 - 38/85 – 39/70-72 – 41/28 – 43/74-77 – 44/33-34 – 47/12 – 48/23 – 56/42-44 – 68/43 – 84/10-12.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been identical.

Sub-total Chapter 54 = 545 + 4780 = 5.325.


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