Muhammad in the Quran, Vol. 1: Chapter 15
15 Dec. 2015
LOOTING, EXTORTION, SLAVE TAKING, AND RAPE - "LAWFUL AND GOOD" ACCORDING TO MUHAMMAD
It tells something significant about Islam - and not least about Muhammad - that he for one thing practiced all this himself, and even more significant is it that the fact that Muhammad permitted and himself practiced all this, legalized all of it and made it morally correct in Islam (everything Muhammad did, was and is morally correct and ok, as Muhammad was perfect and without sin according to Islam (believe this about a thief/robber, extorter, rapist, pedophilic, liar, deceiver, disuser of oaths, promoter of apartheid, promoter of suppression, slave taker, torturer, murderer, mass murderer, etc., if you are able to)). The fact that such things also are "lawful and good" and glorified in the Quran - their eternal "holy" book - also tells something about Islam.
Verse 8/69 to us is may be the most disgusting verse in the entire Quran, partly because it is done in the name of god. This verse and especially the 3 words "lawful and good" tell about the Quran's and Islam's real way of thinking and real moral code. #####Disgust is the only word for this, but it is a too weak one.
The religion of honesty in words and deeds?
###001 3/174a: “And they returned (from war) with Grace and Bounty from Allah: no harm ever touched them - - -”. A fairy tale picture of war and easy riches. A good pep talk for recruiting new warriors if the men are uneducated and naïve. Glorifying war and spoils of war attracts new warriors. The larger the “army” the better chance of success and power for leaders.
But never a word about the catastrophes for the victims and for the destroyed lives and cultures, etc. Compassion and empathy nearly do not exist in the Quran - and definitely not concerning non-Muslims.
#####It is worth noticing that Muhammad and his followers behaved like Muslim gangs are doing today (2013 AD) in northeast Africa: Raiding - in this case especially people fleeing north from war and poverty - the weak ones. Muslims stealing what meager possessions they have, murdering, raping, gang raping, torture, extortion, slave taking, slave selling (yes, it goes on even today). This was the life of the semi-saint Muhammad the last 9-10 years of his life - Muslims were involved in some 82 armed incidences during that time, nearly all of them raids for stealing riches, for rape, extortion, and slaves. Muhammad personally led some 26 of them and personally raped at least two women (Rayhana bint Amr and Safiyya bint Huayay). #####Some morally perfect idol!
#####It also is very telling that as far as we know, Islam is doing little or nothing to stop those gangsters of today - and how can they? Those gangsters are behaving just like Muhammad did, and everything Muhammad did was perfect, "lawful and good".
Added 2014: IS - the "Islamic State" is behaving according to Muhammad's demands and rules. An attractive future for the world? - remember that the Quran demands that the Muslims shall conquer and suppress the rest of the world.
002 3/174b: "- - - Bounty from Allah - - -". That the raids and wars with its stealing, raping, suppression, extortion and blood shall be in the name of the god, makes the whole "business" - the Quran's rules for waging war - even more disgusting. And are robbed goods, rape and slave taking in accordance with the moral and ethical codes in NT? - the claimed same god? Read the NT and check for yourself.
But notify how often "bounty", etc. is mentioned in connection to propaganda for war in the Quran - the permission to steal and extort from and to enslave the victims was one of the central arguments for alluring Muslim men to go on raids and to war. (And is the "bounty" really from a god when you have to go out and steal and rob and risk your life and health for it - and destroy other people's lives. Words and propaganda are cheap and incitements and temptation sometimes slick - and all such words even may be dishonest and untrue.)
####003 4/32b: - - - but ask Allah for His bounty". Why? If Allah has predestined everything, prayers are a waste of time - nobody and nothing can change Allah's Plan according to the Quran. Besides: Any bounty Muslims had to steal and extort themselves - at least any bounty in this life.
004 4/70b: "- - - the Bounty from Allah - - -". Does the Quran here mean what the Muslims stole/steal, raped/rape and enslaved during raids and wars? - the only bounty Muslims got from Allah(?), at least in this life.
####005 5/35g: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b just above*) in His (Allah’s*) cause - - -”. For us this is one of the most detestable points in the entire Quran and Islam: Fight and steal and rob and mutilate and rape and enslave and hate and murder and suppress in the name of your god - a claimed good and benevolent god. And these even are reckoned to be the best of deeds in Islam - go to war or on raids for Allah(?) and go directly to Paradise if you are killed. Not only to paradise, but to one of the best parts of it.
####006 8/1c: “They (the warriors*) ask thee (Muhammad*) concerning (things taken as) spoils of war (riches and slaves and sometimes land*). Say: (Such) spoils are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*)”. This is one of the rules Muhammad or the omniscient Allah had to change later (and not much later) - in the end Muhammad only got 20%, except if the victims gave in without a fight (then Muhammad still got 100%). (Islam has another explanation - all belongs to Allah, but 80% may be given to the warriors and to their leaders. But when a "may be" becomes a rule, it is not a "may be" any more). You meet Muslims saying Allah/the Quran never changed anything, but here is one point which was changed shortly afterward. Often Muslims explains changes with that the rules really were not changed, only made stricter or clarified (why should that be necessary for an omniscient god?), but also that are changes. Here is an absolute rule which later had to be changed - the warriors demanded their share of the spoils. Besides: How primitive or greedy has a person to be in order to see a good and benevolent god in a god who permits lies, stealing/robbing, rape, enslaving, suppression, murder, etc. in his name?Incompatible with NT.
####But there is another and very - extremely - serious point here: When raids and stealing/looting and slave-taking expeditions and whatever are planned and executed just for that purpose: To be able to see this as anything but plain and dishonest thievery or robbing, you have be a very special person or belong to a very special culture.
####It happens that Muslims ask about why on Earth they are disliked just because they are Muslims? #####Parts of the Quran's moral code explain a large percent of that question - it is too far from normal moral codes. (But Muslims are so used to it, that they are unable to see its excesses, dishonesty and inhumanity, and honestly believe it is a perfect and most honorable code.)
The permission to steal - take "spoils of war" - was a mighty incitement for many, both to (officially?) become a Muslim and to go on raids, etc.
####007 8/1d: “(The spoils of war*) “are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” All that was stolen and looted and robbed in raids and war, included slaves and prisoners for extorting money (this early – 624 AD – it mainly was raids to steal/rob/extort) belonged to Allah – represented by his envoy on earth: Muhammad. But his officers and warriors were too greedy to accept this – they wanted a share of the riches, too. So a bit later in the surah – a few “revelations” later (?) there came a contra order – and abrogation:
- ***8/41: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah - - -.” Muhammad had to give the warriors their share – except that he saved everything for himself in the cases where the victims gave in without fighting – then the warriors had done nothing and could not demand a share. Muhammad needed riches. Though it is likely it is true he was not much interested in much luxury, he needed riches for bribes/"gifts" and for waging war to get more power and more riches, included slaves – war cost money even if he paid his warriors with religion and religious promises, then all the same food and equipment cost money – and he needed riches for “gift” to attract more warriors/followers/believers and to keep some of the lukewarm-warm ones - - - and some for social use (help to the poor). Muslims try to explain away this contradiction and abrogation by saying that it all belongs to Allah/the leader, but 80% is given to the warriors/robbers. But the moment it becomes a right for the robbers in raids and warriors in war, the rank and file’s share no longer belongs to the leader.
But remember that also stealing is dishonesty, no matter if you name it loot, spoils of war, or whatever.
####008 8/1e: (The spoils of war*) are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” Incompatible with the Bible. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad was not in the same line of prophets - Just try to think about Jesus demanding his share of things stolen in war, not to mention his share of slaves taken!! - the very thoughts are utterly impossible for anyone knowing NT. In OT it was permitted to take booty, but for the warriors. Only once (4. Mos. 31/28-29) did Yahweh ask for a share of the booty: 1 in 500 from half and 1 in 50 from the other half for the priests and Levites (the priest tribe). In NT there is no question about booty at all. Allah demands 1 in 5 if there was fighting and everything if the victim gave in without fighting. The same god? Just guess!! (When it comes to treatment of victims and also of their possessions, it is easy to think about the Mafia or the Triads, and about primitives and greed, when we read about Muslims' raids and wars).
009 8/41a: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” These 20% - 100% if the victim gave in without a fight - in reality were for Muhammad to use. Did he "demand no payment for what he did" like he claims some places in the Quran?
All this is totally foreign to Yahweh and Jesus - one more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion: Too different moral codes, etc.
010 8/41b: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” Part of the background for paragraphs in the sharia law.
011 8/41c: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) (an all if the victims gave in without a fight*) - - -.” Try to find something like this in the Bible, not to mention in the NT! Yahweh and Allah the same god? An imbecile question. (The only time Yahweh asked for part of a booty - and then for his priest and the Levites (4. Mos. 31/28-29) he asked for 1/500 of half and 1/50 of the other half).
Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of anything or in the same religion? Do not laugh.
012 8/41d: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” Which means that 80% is for the warriors and leaders in the war – an economical incentive which for many a poor man counted much more than the religion – war and terror = good business. Many became well-to-do, many became rich, and some became very rich – and were dream models for new generations of robber warriors and robber barons. But Muslims and Islam never mentions the cost in destruction and destroyed lives which were the price millions had to pay for this unjust prosperity of the robbers and destroyers. It frequently took the (surviving) locals 100-200 years and more just to regain their standard of life, not to mention freedom. The warriors of the good and benevolent god of “the Religion of Peace” frequently mass murdered and massacred and enslaved “en gross” – and stole everything. Jerusalem f.x. got a hunger catastrophe after being occupied in 638 AD - the Muslims stole everything, included the food.
013 8/41e: "- - - out of all the booty that ye may acquire - - - a fifth share is assigned to Allah - and to the Messenger (and all to be paid to Muhammad*) - - -". No place in the NT Yahweh or Jesus demand part of stolen things (politely called booty). One single place in OT Yahweh demands a small share (see 8/41c above). Even compared to this Muhammad - not one time like Yahweh, but each time - demanded on behalf of Allah 10 - 100 times as much - and not for sacrifice (mostly for "gifts" (bribes) to stay popular and stay in power, for "gifts" to buy new or keep doubting followers, to pay for more war, and some for Muhammad and his family - and some for the poor). The same god, like the Quran and Islam claims? - and Muhammad and Jesus in the same line of prophets like that book and Islam claims? - believe it if you want, but you have to want to believe it to be able to do so".
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######014 8/69a: “ "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, #######lawful and good - - -”. This is one more of the moral and ethical pinnacles in the Quran: Wage war, and then it is “lawful and good” to steal and rob and plunder - and rape the women and girl children and take slaves. It actually is connected to 8/68a above, but like so often in the Quran specific episodes, etc, is given general meaning.
But of course this made it easy and cheap for Muhammad and his successors to get warriors. That such behavior is a catastrophe for any and all victims - and in some cases set back the civilization may be some hundreds of years like in Persia/Iran - does not count, as non-Muslim “Untermench” ("sub-humans" in Nazi German) do not count.
This even more so as for fanatics nearly every situation they do not like, can be defined as war against Islam “in the widest meaning of the word” - not to mention that according to Islam’s definition all areas not dominated by Islam are “land of war”. Really a morally and ethical superior religion - compare f.x. to the silly and invalid "Do unto others like you want others do against you", which many religions and culture have as their "constitution". And really a peaceful religion.
And honestly the word “good” in ”lawful and good” classifies Muhammad, the Quran and Islam. Laws can be twisted and remade and it is no problem for an absolute dictator to make what laws he wants and thus make things “lawful” – quotation marks used on purpose. But the word “good” is an absolute – flexible “borders”, but fundamentally an absolute. Allah’s/Muhammad’s real rules for behavior against all outsiders is way outside “good”, and the hypocrisy in the using of abrogated verses in the Quran to make outsiders believe something else, makes this aspect of the religion and its hypocrisy even more disgusting.
This quote also tells a lot about the person Muhammad.
########To us this is perhaps the most disgusting and revealing sentence in the entire Quran and the entire Islam.
Also: Combine this quote with Islam's slogan: "Islam is the Religion of Peace" and "Allah is good and benevolent" and weep - or laugh.
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#####015 8/69a-d: "- - - lawful and good - - -". If these words and the context they are taken from ("- - - enjoy what (loot, slaves, and women + destruction and murder*) ye took in war (normally of aggression*), lawful and good - - -") were all you knew about the Quran and Islam, this alone would be enough to remove them from the civilized world, and transfer it to the dark, harsh, and inhuman Medieval ages or earlier. This even more so as this is not "abrogated" (made invalid) by today's Islam, but on the contrary are preached many places all over even today in some Islamic groups and countries. (And even practiced during armed conflicts - Bangladesh, East Timor, East Africa, and Indonesia a "short" time ago. Low intensity active in f.x. Indonesian New Guinea and parts of Africa even now (2010).)
016 8/69b: "- - - lawful and good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code - sometimes very immoral.
016a 8/69ca: We have met the question: There are certain kinds of men who are the "normal" perpetrators when women - and children - are raped. Self-centered, low on compassion for others for others, and often low quality - from "the rubble". It is the same kind of humans who often are the ones stealing from or robbing others. Now the Quran has favoured this kind of men and behavior - go to war and suppress and kill, and be paid by stealing and raping - for 1400 years. Can this have influenced the DNA of Arabs and other Muslims? - the ones who rape often and the ones who get more wives and concubines because they are rich (f.x. from stolen valuables), gets more babies. ###### Can this be a little piece of the explanation for the inhumanities we see from Arabs and other Muslims?
017 8/69d: "- - - good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral code - sometimes very immoral. In just this case the use of this word is a black joke compared to the fundamental sentence of all inter-human moral: "Do onto others like you want others do onto you".
Just remember that most Muslims are ok. Only a minority is militant - 1-2% according to Muslims (but 2% of 1.2 billion = 24 million). Then according to international science some 30% (= some 360 million) are willing to help the militants actively or with money, or at least "understand" them. The rest (included many from the 30%) - the majority - are ok. (But our problem is to know who is who.)
But what is absolutely sure, is that apologists telling that "there are verses in the Quran which can be misused by terrorists", are talking nonsense. According to the Quran it is very clear it is the peaceful Muslims who are not good Muslims, and the activists who are laudable and obeying Muhammad and Allah.
But what is behind their acts when the Quran provably is not from any god? No god delivers a book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, invalid logic, etc. like the Quran
018 9/76a: "But when He (Allah*) did bestow of his bounty, they became covetous, and turned back (from their Covenant) - - -". Impossible to know and write in "the Mother of the Book" for sure billions of years ahead (according to Islam, the Quran may have existed since before the creation of the Universe) even for a god, if man has free will. See 9/45c above.
Besides: Was it really Allah's bounty? They had to go out and steal it themselves from fellow human beings - though "lawful and good" according to the war religion Islam.
019 9/120a: “It was not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs of the neighborhood, to refuse to follow Allah’s Messenger (to wage war - it refers to the expedition to Tabuk*) - - - “. But it is fitting for Islam to steal and rob and kill end enslave and suppress.
And it was “fitting” to make Muhammad a powerful warlord.
Have you ever heard words like "self-centered" or "selfishness"?
What then about “let there be no compulsion in religion”? - or about religious wars? - not to mention what about honesty and "do unto others like you want others do unto you"? - the basic law behind all real inter-human morality. Not to mention: Can Jesus and Muhammad be in the same line of prophets - (they in case have to preach approximately the same truths, the same basic ideas and the same moral code). No answer necessary - and the same goes for "is Yahweh the same god as Allah"?
020 30/45d: "- - - out of His (Allah's*) Bounty." Everything anyone gets in this life, comes out of Allah's bounty - at least according to the Quran.
It tells a lot that here on Earth "Allah's Bounty" to a large degree meant permission to steal, rob, extort, and take slaves - all of it "lawful and good".
021 30/46f: "- - - seek of His (Allah's*) Bounty." Everything anyone gets in this life, comes out of Allah's bounty - at least according to the Quran.
We repeat: It tells a lot that here on Earth "Allah's Bounty" to a large degree meant permission to steal, rob, extort, and take slaves - all of it "lawful and good".
022 37/97aa: YA 4093: "The argument - - - was so sound that it could not be met by argument. In such cases Evil resorts to violence, or secret plotting." IS THIS THE REASON WHY MUHAMMAD DID AND ISLAM/MUSLIMS SO EASILY AND SO OFTEN RESORTS TO SECRET PLOTTING AND VIOLENCE?
And may this be an extra reason why many forms of evil are not only permitted, but glorified in the Quran? - and other kinds of evil "lawful and good" payment to warriors and leaders, included Muhammad
######023 43/37e: (YA4639): "The downward course in evil is rapid. But the most tragic consequence is that evil persuades its victims to believe that they are pursuing good. They think evil to be their good. They go deeper and deeper into the mire, and become more and more callous." Think of the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, the unethical parts of its ethical code, the unjust parts of its laws, the inhuman parts of its war code (compare all of it to the one and only main moral code "do onto others like you want others do onto you", and you easily see the immoral, etc. parts) - is this point describing Muslims?
024 47/4f: "- - - (- - - time for) either generosity or ransom - - -". When the battle or raid or war was over, it happened some of the prisoners were set free, either from generosity or other reasons or simply because the prisoners and their families were too poor to pay ransom. But often it was a question of extortion: Pay ransom or else - - -".
What the Quran here does not mention, is that there were two more options which were frequently used: Kill the prisoners - later it happened that this was done by the thousands and tens of thousands and more, and sometimes in inhuman ways like skinning alive, burning alive, burying alive. And enslavement - also here often by the thousands and tens of thousands and more. Captives to a large degree were kept or sold or given away for slavery - included women and girls for work and rape for the rest of their lives "lawful and good" according to the Quran ”The religion of peace" at work. Try to find also something like this in NT and the new covenant! One more of the at least 200% sure proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad not only are in the same line, but does not even belong in the same moral world.
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##025 48/15c: (A48/14): “- - - when ye (Muslims*) (are free to) march and take plunder (in war) - - -.” Or: “As soon as you (O Muslims!) are about to set forth on a war that promises booty - - -.” For some strange (?) reasons in none of our different translations are used the literal meaning of the Arab text (translated from Swedish): “- - - leave on a raid to take plunder - - -.” May be sometimes the varieties in the understanding of the Quranic texts are because one does not want to tell what really is said in the book. According to Islamic information or disinformation all Muhammad’s some 82 raids (we have the names of some 60 of the raids) were in self defense, and then it may as well be wise for “the Religion of Peace” to “mend” the text a little and make it more tasteful and "correct"? - instead of translating the Quran correctly and have to admit that Muhammad made "raids to take plunder" - not very holy jihads.
#####"The Religion of Peace"??? ##### "The Religion of Honesty"??? - ##### remember that stealing and not only lying is dishonesty.
At least: Clearly a god of war.
##026 48/15d: (A48/14): “- - - when ye (Muslims*) (are free to) march and take plunder (in war) - - -.” Or: “As soon as you (O Muslims!) are about to set forth on a war that promises booty - - -.” Try to find things like this in NT! One more at least 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of anything of any consequence.
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***027 48/16f: "Then if ye (in this case desert Arabs reluctant to take part in raids*) show obedience, Allah will grant you a goodly reward - - -". Obedience to whom? - here on Earth in reality to Muhammad, and for a reward costing Muhammad exactly nothing but some words free of charge. The dream position for a Hitler, a Stalin, a Mao, a Papa Doc, any dictator wanting absolute and total power and obedience. Religion disused is the ultimate platform of power.
And what goodly reward? The never proved promise about a place in Paradise and permission to steal, rape, extort, and take slaves. The tragedies this meant for other humans NEVER - then or today - is mentioned. ###Islam is an extremely self centered and selfish religion. This is even more sinister as the religion highly likely is a made up pagan one, as no god would deliver a "holy" book of a quality like the Quran.
028 48/20c: "Allah has promised you (Muslims*) many gains that ye shall acquire (from plunder*) - - -". Try to find things like this in NT! One more at least 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of anything of any consequence.
029 48/20f: (A48/23 – in 2008 edition A22): “Allah has promised you many gains that ye shall acquire - - -.” Booty. A good and cheap way to get warriors. But does it here only talk about “gold and slaves and a few rapes” in this life (may be Khaybar in this case), or also riches in the next life like among others Ibn Abbas thought?
The price paid by the victims NEVER interested neither Allah, nor the Muslims, nor Muhammad. What does this tell about them? - and about Islam?
030 55/27b: "- - - (Allah*) - full of Majesty, Bounty and Honor". Often claimed - but f.x. 1/1a seriously questions this. Though "bounty" Allah has plenty of as long as Muslims can steal/rob it from non-Muslims "good and lawful".
031 57/18d: "- - - loan to Allah a Beautiful Loan - - -". This is a standard expression in the Quran, normally meaning risking or giving your life in raids or wars for Muhammad - in most cases not for the defense of the religion, but for stealing/robbing, enslaving, extorting, etc. "lawful and good" (see the chapter about Muhammad’s raids in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" - www.1000mistakes.com . Also see 57/11a-d above. (For the record: In just this case there is a chance that also this expression refers to giving money, but this in case is not the normal meaning of it.)
#####032 73/20e: (A73/12 - English 2008 edition 73/13): "- - - there is no doubt that jihad was first sanctioned during the Medina period - - -". Which confirms that Muhammad/Allah and Islam did not think about or talk about or insist on or glorify war until after Muhammad started needing warriors for his raids for riches and later also for conquests, in and after 622 AD. Was this very fundamental change in the religion at this time a coincidence? And why did not the omniscient god Allah know before 622 AD - and Muhammad's need for warriors - that fighting was a good thing, a duty for all fit Muslim men, and a sure way to Paradise for even the worst sinner?
033 93/11: "- - - the Bounty of the Lord (Allah*) - - -" - does not exist unless Allah exists and is something supernatural (for his claimed paradise to exist, he has to be a god).
And like said before: The part of Allah's claimed bounty Muslims were promised here on Earth, they had to go on raids and steal themselves - "lawful and good" - and why care about the loss, terror, and pain this meant to other human beings?
Sub-total Chapter 15 = 33 + 678 = 711.
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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".