Allah in the Quran, Chapter 96

 

Chapter 96

WHY MUST THE OMNISCIENT GOD ALLAH TRY EVEN HIS FOLLOWERS?

 

001 There is no logic in or reason for that an omniscient god has to try everybody - even his followers - to find their quality. If he is omniscient, he already knows everything, and can learn nothing from such trials. This even more so if it is true what the Quran stated several places, that Allah predestines everything which happen, included everything you do in this life.

002 Combine these claims with the contents in the chapters "Allah’s claimed Plan", "Allah's claimed total predestination", "Allah's omniscience", "Allah's knowledge", "Allah sees everything", and you see the hopelessness in the claims that Allah must test everybody to find out what he needs to know about them.

003 As you see below, all the same Muhammad used this "explanation" very often in his religion - perhaps because he found that his primitive, uneducated, and not least willing and wishful followers did not see the impossibilities and believed his "explanation". Many still do. But combine the contents of this chapter - and you find more if you go looking in the Quran - with the contents of those chapters, and you have an impossibility which is one more proof for that something is very wrong with Muhammad's religion - a very strong proof.

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable are that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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004 2/49d: "- - - a tremendous trial from your Lord (Allah according to the Quran*)". Why did a predestining, omniscient god knowing everything send his followers through trials?

005 2/49e: "- - - a tremendous trial from your Lord - - -". Contradicting the Bible - according to the Bible this was not a trial from Yahweh, but from the Egyptians.

006 2/124a: "And remember that Abraham was tried by his Lord - - -." This refers to Abraham being ordered to sacrifice his son. The Bible tells it was Isaac - "his only son" (Ishmael and his Egyptian mother Hagar had been sent away from the home of Abraham, and Isaac was the only one Abraham had left) - whereas Islam claims it was Ishmael. As the Bible makes it clear that Hagar and Ishmael settled near the border of Egypt, Ishmael also was far off when this happened - highly unlikely that Abraham traveled all the way to fetch him for a sacrifice (Islam claims Hagar and Ishmael settled in Mecca - even further off. The Bible tells this happened long after Hagar and Ishmael were sent off - 1. Mos. 21/22: "At that time (the time when Hagar and were sent away*)" the Treaty of Beersheba was made. 1. Mos. 22/: "Some time later (after the Treaty of Beersheba*) God (Yahweh*) tested Abraham).

007 2/143i: "- - - only to test - - -". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all decides everything in a human's life according to the Quran, need to test his followers? If he did not know the answer, then he is not omniscient and the other way around.

008 2/155a: "- - - We (Allah*) shall test you (Muslims*) - - -." Why did Allah need to test the Muslims if he was omniscient and on top of all decides everything, according to the Quran? - but if Muhammad or someone just made up the religion, this is a nice whip to maintain discipline.

009 2/249a: "When Talut (King Saul*) set forth with his armies, he said: 'Allah (more likely Yahweh*) will test you at the stream - - -". This seems to be a mix-up of two stories in the Bible: Saul's wars with the Philistines, and Gideon's earlier war with the Midianites. Gideon had an episode where he chose his soldiers according to how they drank from the Jordan river - Judges 7/7 (he was to wise a general to ask his soldiers go thirsty into battle) - about Saul you find in 1.Samuel (David vs. Goliath in 1. Sam 17/4-48). There is no similar episode involving King Saul. The Quran here has wrong man and wrong time.

But why does an omniscient god - one who knows absolutely everything - need to test anyone?

010 2/249c: The way the story is told in 2/249 has little to do with the Bible, and worse: For a test for whom were fit for taking part in the battle, it is meaningless, as the soldiers were told on beforehand which criteria would be used - criteria each and every one of them could fulfill. It might be a test for who wanted to come along, but not for who were fit for coming along.

Also it is very likely Muhammad has mixed Saul's/Talut's war with Gideon's - no god had done that.

011 3/142a: “Did ye think that ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those of you who fought hard (in His cause) and remained steadfast?” You can come to heaven without being a warrior. But for one thing it is much easier for warriors – and a sure way if you are killed – and for another thing; if you were a brave warrior in this life, you ended in the best parts of Paradise with most luxury, plenty of women (Islam is mainly occupied with men) – and closer to Allah. Mighty incitements. ###But why does an omniscient god have to test his followers to find out what they are worth? - and even more so if he predestines everything, like the Quran claims many places? #######He can learn exactly nothing from it as he already knows everything.

012 3/142b: “Did you think ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those who fought hard (in His Cause) and remained steadfast?” But the literal meaning of the original text is: “- - - while Allah has not yet taken cognizance of those of you who have striven - - - and those who are patient in adversity.” Islam explains that as Allah knows everything, this in reality means that nothing – no real test – has taken place. But this is not an explanation, but an "explanation" - a flight from the question of "why this difference?". If Allah is omniscient, there does not exist one single reason for a test of anybody - especially so if he also predestines everything, like the Quran claims many places. And if Allah does not know how each and everybody will behave, he is not omniscient and clairvoyant. Islam’s explanation here is logically invalid. Do they have something better – not the (sorry) usual stuff where they “explain” one piece of a complex question, and then tell “this is why” – and silently skip the other parts of the complex, which shows that the claim(s) or "explanation(s)" in reality is/are wrong or invalid? – there is too much of that in Islam. Unclear + fleeing from the problem.

013 3/152h: "- - - to test you". In this case Muhammad is explaining away a human weakness with the claim that it was Allah's will. But why does an omniscient and predestining god need to test his followers? - actually the logic here is so hopeless, that it is an insult to the brain of the readers - only those can accept it who are very naive or mentally blind.

014 3/154i: "But (all this (Battle of Uhud*) was) that Allah might test what is in your breast and purge what is in your hearts". But why does an omniscient god who on top of all decides and predestines everything according to the Quran, have to test his followers? Where is the logic?

015 3/166cc: "- - - in order that He (Allah*) might test the Believers - - -" Also the defeat at Uhud was claimed to be according to Allah's Plan - to test the warriors. But why - WHY - does an omniscient, predestining god need to test anyone when he knows everything before??!! There is no logic in it! Whereas if you think a cunning warlord uses such a story as an explanation and a whip to strengthen and renew the will to fight in his depressed, but believing and naive warriors - well, then there suddenly is logic in the tale.

It takes a lot of naivety to be able to believe that an omniscient and predestining god needs to test his followers to know what they are worth.

016 3/186a: “You shall certainly be tried and tested - - -”. Difficulties are just Allah’s way of testing you, and you do not pass the test unless you keep fighting. (But why does an omniscient and predestining god need to test you? - he knows everything already. There is no logic in this, not unless it is Muhammad who needs this argument as a carrot and a whip to strengthen his warriors' will to fight, or to "explain" why raids (for wealth mainly) and wars were "necessary".)

017 5/41j: "If anyone's trial is intended by Allah - - -". Why would an omniscient and predestining god need to try anybody - anybody at all? There is no logic in this.

018 5/48n; "- - - (His (Allah's*) plan is) to test you - - -". But why does an omniscient god who on top of all predestines everything, need to test his followers?!?!

019 5/71a: "They (the Jews*) thought there would be no trial (or punishment); so they became blind and deaf - - -". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

  1. When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.
  2. The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.
  3. The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (or rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

020 5/71aa: "They (the Jews*) thought there would be no trial (or punishment); so they became blind and deaf - - -". But why did a claimed omniscient and even predestining god need to give anybody trials? There is no logic in such claims.

578 5/94b: "Allah doth but make a trial of you - - -". But WHY does an omniscient, predestining god need to make a trial of you??!! There is no logic in this - not unless the Quran is a made up book, and Muhammad needs an explanation for hardship his followers meet.

021 5/94c: "- - - that He (Allah*) may test who feareth Him unseen - - -". See 94b just above.

022 6/53: "Thus did We (Allah*) try some of them (Muslims*) - - -". Once more: Why does an omniscient god need to try anyone? - he knows everything already, and especially so if he predestines everything, like the Quran claims many places. (But there is logic if it is Muhammad who needs to be able to explain hardship his followers meet.)

023 6/165c: "- - - that He (Allah*) may try you (Muslims or people*) - - -". The never answered question: WHY does an omniscient and predestining god who according to the Quran knows every detail and innermost secrets about everybody, have to try anyone?!

024 7/129d: "- - - He (Allah*) may try you by your deeds". This is similar to Muhammad's standard explanations why Muslims met difficulties, not to mention when Muhammad wanted his followers to make raids and wars, and of course then it was psychologically wise to let Moses use such expressions, too, to show that Muhammad just did what other prophets did and said. But why does an omniscient, predestining god need to try anyone at all? - there is no logic in it - - - unless it was Muhammad who needed the warriors and an "explanation" for their hardship.

025 7/155e: "This is no more than thy (claimed to be Allah's*) trial - - -". Once more the question the Quran and Islam never answers: Why does an omniscient and totally predestining god have to try his followers? - there is no logic in this often repeated claim, which Muhammad used as an explanation for difficulties his followers met and for why Allah wanted wars and bloodshed resulting in riches and power for Muhammad.

026 7/163e: "- - - a trial for them". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all predestines everything according to the Quran, need to test people?

027 7/168b: "We (Allah*) have tried them (people*) - - -". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all predestines everything according to the Quran, need to test people?

028 8/17b: (The fights are acts of Allah) "in order that He might test the Believers - - -". But why - why - should Allah need to test his Muslims if he is omniscient and knows everything on beforehand? - not to mention if he on top is omnipotent and decides everything before it happens? There is no logic in this. But if the real story was that Muhammad needed an "explanation" for why a mighty god wanted them to fight - in reality for Muhammad - then this sentence suddenly is easy to understand; it is unbelievable what you can make people believe if they are naive or uneducated or both, not to mention if they want to belief from f.x. religious reasons or to have an excuses to steal and enslave and rape women and to become rich.

029 8/28a: "- - - a trial - - -". But why does an omniscient god who knows absolutely everything, included your innermost thoughts, and who on top of all according to many places in the Quran predestines everything and every detail on Earth and in everyone's life, need trials of his people?!? There exists no logic in it - not unless it in reality was Muhammad who needed an explanation for why Allah wanted his followers to fight for Muhammad.

  1. Predestination - Muhammad even came to stress predestination more and more as the years went by in Medina - one can speculate if the reason was that he needed warriors.
  2. And this is a serious point: THROUGH 1400 YEARS ISLAM HAS BEEN UNABLE TO EXPLAIN THE CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE STATEMENTS THAT MAN HAS FREE WILL, AND THE STATEMENTS THAT ALLAH DECIDES EVERYTHING. THE MORE OR LESS OFFICIAL POINT OF VIEW (THOUGH NOT AMONG THE UNEDUCATED ONES WHO HARDLY UNDERSTANDS THE PROBLEM) IS THAT THE TWO STATEMENTS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO COMBINE, “BUT IT ALL THE SAME HAS TO BE TRUE AS ALLAH SAYS SO (IN THE QURAN)”(!!!). ALSO THE SENDING OF PEOPLE TO HELL FOR A FAIR PUNISHMENT COMBINED WITH THE “FACT” THAT ALLAH DECIDES EVERYTHING BY PREDESTINATION, IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMBINE WITH THE PRESUMPTION OF A BENEVOLENT AND/OR FAIR GOD. Some Muslims back paddle very much on the point of predestination and try to explain that it is not real predestination, without explaining what it then is - but the Quran is too clear on this.
  3. PREDESTINATION ALSO MAKE PRAYERS INVALID IN ISLAM. IF EVERYTHING IS PREDESTINED LONG TIME AGO, AND PREDESTINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALLAH'S PLAN - A PLAN NOBODY AND NOTHING CAN CHANGE ACCORDING TO SEVERAL VERSES IN THE QURAN, AND WHICH THUS ALSO PRAYERS CANNOT CHANGE, TO PRAY FOR HELP OR ANYTHING FROM ALLAH JUST IS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT. (Similar goes for forgiving.)

030 8/41k: "- - - the Day of Testing (in the battle of Badr*) - - -". But WHY do an omniscient and omnipotent and claimed benevolent god need to test people by making them kill each others, when he as an omniscient knows everything, and as an omnipotent makes a satirical joke of all tests because in his Plan he has, decides all that will happen in the battle and everything else before and after it happens? The whole concept just is black humor and sadism. But if it was Muhammad who needed a way to explain away his need for battles to gain wealth for bribes and power, then suddenly there is logic in it - people who wants to believe, may believe even stories like this, especially if they are naive and/or uneducated.

031 9/49d: "- - - trial - - -". Why does an omniscient, predestinating good need to put his people through trials?

032 9/49f: "Have they (the ones not wanting to go to war*) not fallen into trial already?" Indication: They have been tried by the order to go to war, and found that they are proved to be "too light" and wanting in the eyes of Muhammad and Allah by asking exemption. But again: WHY does an omniscient - and predestining - god need to try anybody? There is nothing - nothing - he can learn from it if he already knows everything.

033 9/126a: "See they (non-Muslims*) not that they are tried every year - - -." But why does an omniscient god have to try people, if he knows everything on beforehand? - and what value has a trial if Allah has already decided what is going to happen? - Allah decides everything according to the Quran. The only case where all this makes sense and logic, is if it in reality was Muhammad who had to find "explanations" for why raids for riches and power and wars for power were necessary.

034 9/126b: "See they (Muslims*) not that they are tried every year once or twice?" In reality more often - at least the Muslims. The war period under Muhammad was from some time after he arrived in Medina in 622 AD, till he died in 632 AD. During that time it is said there were 82 armed "incidents" ( http://www.1000mistakes.com names 63 of them) - by far most of them were raids for stealing valuables and taking prisoners for slaves or extortion. Split over some 10 years that means some 8 "armed incidents" a year - every second month or a bit more - and practically always the aggression were from Islam - not untypical for this religion. If you took part in all of them (which hardly anyone did) that meant you were tested not once or twice a year, but some 8 times a year. And if you survived - which most of them did - they became rich. or at least richer than before. (If they survived and were not crippled.)

But we have never in all our reading - old or new Islamic literature - or debating, seen or heard one single sentence or thought about what terror, catastrophe, or destruction this meant to all its victims - only the heroism of the destructors. Even today Islam is too primitive to see anything but the glory of "our" victories.

We do hope none of the Muslims in our neighborhood thinks like that. The problem is that many Muslim terrorists also were thought to be good persons before they started terrorism - it is not possible to know who the few are. How do you see the difference between a human and an inhuman Muslim? Like the ones who filmed victims they burned alive or beheaded or in other ways murdered.

035 11/7g: "- - - that He (Allah*) might try you, which of you is best in conduct". Why does an omniscient, predestining god need to try anyone?

036 14/6d: "(Pharaoh Ramses II*) slaughtered your (the Jews'*) sons, and let your women-folk live: therein was a tremendous trial from your Lord". According to the Bible this was a misdeed from the Pharaoh, not a trial from the god.

037 14/6e: "- - - a tremendous trial from your Lord (Allah*)". See 8/28a above.

038 16/92d: "- - - Allah will test you (people*) - - -". See 8/28a above.

039 17/60c: "- - - but as a trial for men - - -". Why does an omniscient, predestining god need to try humans?

040 18/7: "- - - in order that We (Allah*) might test them (people with a good life on Earth*) - - -". But why does a predestining, omniscient god need to test anyone? Also see 8/28 above.

041 18/12a: "Then We (Allah*) arouse them (the "7 sleepers"*) in order to test which of the two parts was best at calculating the term of years they had tarried". A peculiar reason - and which 2 parts? (Clear language in the Quran - and a little logical reason for an omniscient god.)

042 18/12b: "- - - test - - -". Once more: Why does a predestining, omniscient god need to test anyone?

043 20/40b: "- - - tried - - -". Why does an omniscient, predestining god need to test anyone? - if it then was not Muhammad who needed "proof" for that testing was normal.

044 20/85a: "- - - tested - - -". Why did a predestining, omniscient god have to test anyone?

045 20/90b: "- - - tested - - -". See 20/85a above.

046 20/131b: "- - - We (Allah*) test them (people*) - - -". The old question: Why does a predestining, omniscient god need to test anyone at all - - -.

047 21/35a: "- - - We (Allah*) test you - - -". See 8/28a above.

048 21/111: "- - - a trial - - -". Why does a predestining, omniscient god need to put people through trials? - especially meaningless if he has predestined the outcome himself, and the Quran many places states that Allah predestines everything and according to his Plan - a Plan nothing and nobody can change. Also see 8/28a above.

049 22/11b: "- - - if trial comes to them (weak believers*), they turn their faces: they lose both this world and the Hereafter: that is a loss for all to see". One of the very many warnings in the Quran. But like always only unproved claims.

050 22/53a: "- - - a trial - - -". But why? No omniscient god needs a trial of anybody, as he knows everything - and even more so if he predestines everything like the Quran claims (but never prove). Also see 8/28a above.

051 23/30d: "- - - thus do We (Allah*) try (men)". But why does an omniscient god have to try men? - especially as he according to the Quran predestines everything, and thus knows everything on beforehand?

052 25/20c: "- - - a trial - - -". Why does an omniscient, predestining god need to put somebody through a trial? Also see 8/28a above.

053 27/40d: "- - - To test me (Solomon*) - - -". See 8/28a above.

054 27/47: "- - - ye (the Thamud*) are a people under trial". Why did a predestining, omniscient god need to try people? Also see 8/28a.

*055 29/2a: “Do men think - - - they will not be tested?” But why is it necessary to test anyone if Allah is omniscient and knows everything before? – yes, in spite of that he even decides everything before? (in spite of the claim that man has (limited?) personal freedom to decide – though even Islam is unable to explain how it possible to combine the statement that Allah decides everything before, with the statement that man has free will - full or partly - (not strange, as it is a version of the time travel paradox, and that paradox is proved unsolvable)) – if all this, then why are tests necessary to find an answer Allah already knows?

056 29/3a: "We (Allah*) did test those before them - - -". But why is it necessary to test anyone if Allah is omniscient and knows everything before according to the Quran? – he even decides everything before (in spite of the claim that man has (limited?) personal freedom to decide – though even Islam is unable to explain how it possible to combine the statement that Allah decides everything before, with the statement that man has free will (not strange, as it is a version of the time travel paradox, and that paradox is proved unsolvable)) – if all this, then why are tests necessary to find an answer Allah already knows?

057 33/11a: "In that situation where the Believers tried - - -". Why - WHY -does an omniscient god need to try his followers? The question is quite different if the is an explanation Muhammad used for the cost in difficulties for his raids and wars.

058 34/21a: "- - - except that We (Allah*) might test a man - - -". There is no reason for an omniscient god to test anybody - and especially if the god on top of all decides everything.

059 37/63a: "For We (Allah*) have truly (definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim*) made it (to eat the fruit of the zaqqum tree - a tree said to grow in Hell*) as a trial for the wrongdoers". Also Hell is inspired by life on Earth - the sinners have to eat and drink like here, but the food is pure sadism. And the clothes are made from fire.

060 37/102-103: The testing of Abraham. The name of the boy is not mentioned here, but other places the Quran claims that it was Ishmael. The Bible says it was Isaac.

If the time sequences given in the Bible are correct, the boy cannot have been Ishmael. See 37/103 just below.

For Yahweh there was a reason for testing Abraham, as in Yahweh's religion man has real free will, and thus it was/is not possible for Yahweh to know everything about how a person will react. Not so under Allah, as Allah both knows absolutely everything, and predestines everything. In spite of the Quran's claims, it then is not possible for man to have any free will or to change Allah’s predestined Plan, "which nobody and nothing can change”. As Allah thus - and according to MANY points in the Quran and in Hadiths - knows EVERYTHING on beforehand, there is exactly nothing he can learn from testing anyone - the claimed tests are meaningless.

061 37/106: "For this was obviously a trial". Why does an omniscient god who decides everything, need to test his followers? (A similar question may be asked about this episode and the Bible, but for one thing it is irrelevant here, as no matter what answer there, it will not change the question concerning Allah, and for another in the Bible Yahweh does not decide everything, as man has real free will.)

062 38/24d: "And David gathered that we had tried him - - -". Why should an omniscient god who on top of all decides everything, need to try anyone? (You may say the same about Yahweh, but there the situation is different, as humans have real free will, which makes it impossible for even a god to know what they will decide always in the future).

Not to mention: What was the trial in this case? There simply is no trial of any kind worthy even a normal human being, not to mention a king in this story.

063 38/34a: "And We (Allah*) did try Solomon - - -". See 38/24c above.

064 39/49a: "Nay, but this is but a trial - - -". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all decides everything himself, have to try his followers? There is no logic in it.

065 44/33c: "- - - trial - - -". The Quran indicates a trial by Allah, but if this had been correct: Why does an omniscient and omnipotent god need to try his followers?

066 47/4i: "- - - but (He (Allah*) lets you fight) in order to test you - - -". Why - why does an omniscient and omnipotent god need to test his followers - he knows everything and predestines everything!? There is no logic in this sentence, unless it in reality is Muhammad who wants warriors and needs an explanation.

067 47/4j: "- - - but (He (Allah*) lets you fight) in order to test you - - -". There are so many ways of testing a person. Why did "the Religion of Peace" have to do it by raids and wars for wealth and slaves and power?!! There is no logic in this, too, unless the explanation is that in reality it was Muhammad who wanted warriors and needed to "explain" why "Allah wanted it".

068 47/31a: "We (Allah*) shall try you - - -". But why - why - why does an omniscient god have to try his followers? there is no logic in it - not unless this claim is a substitute for a real, but less popular reason, f.x. that Muhammad wanted warriors.

069 49/3e: "- - - their hearts has Allah tested for piety - - -". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all decides everything himself, according to the Quran, have to test his followers?

070 51/13b: "- - - tried (and tested) - - -". Why - WHY - does a predestining, omniscient god need to try and test people!???

071 51/14a: "Taste ye (non-Muslims*) your trial (Hell*)!". But why - WHY - does a predestining, omniscient god need to try and test people!???

072 57/25f: "- - - (so) that Allah may test who it is that will help, unseen, Him and His Messengers - - -". One of the big mysteries in the Quran, and one we have never met any Muslim able to or wanting to explain, is: Why does an omniscient, omnipotent and predestining god need to test his followers?!

073 60/5a: "- - - a (test and) trial - - -". Why does an omniscient and omnipotent god who on top of all predestines everything, have to test anybody at all?

074 64/15a: "Your riches and your children (children are the second kind of riches in Islam, one of the reasons for so many children*) may be but a trial - - -". But why does the omniscient god Allah, who the Quran time and again and again claims knows everything, need to try his followers? - where is the logic? - - - if it is not Muhammad who wanted warriors and needed "explanations"? - in that case everything fits neatly.

075 67/2b: "- - - that He (Allah*) may try which of you is best in deed - - -". But why does an omniscient, predestining god need to try anybody at all?!

076 68/17b: "Verily, We (Allah*) have tried them as We tried the People of the Garden - - -". But why does an omniscient god need to try people? - where is the logic?

077 68/17c: "- - - tried - - -". But the big enigma: WHY does an omniscient, predestining god who knows absolutely everything have to try people? - there is no logic in it. (But if it was Muhammad who needed an "explanation" for why people were sent on raids for riches, etc. for Muhammad, then there suddenly is full logic.)

078 72/17a: "That We (Allah*) might try them (people*) - - -". Why does an omniscient and predestining god need to try people? - according to the Quran he knows absolutely everything?

079 74/31c: "- - - a trial - - -". But why does an omniscient and predestining god need to try people?!

080 76/2c: "- - - in order to try him (man*) - - -". There are questions Muslims never answer if they can evade it - and when forced to answer they just produce claims or evasions. One of them is why does an omniscient and predestining god need to test people??!

081 89/15b: "Now, as for man, when his Lord (Allah*) trieth him - - -". The old question to this unanswered enigma: Why did - and does - an omniscient god need do try his followers when he according to many places in the Quran knows well their innermost self?

082 89/16: "But when He (Allah) trieth him (man*) - - -". See 89/15a+b just above.

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