Allah in the Quran, Chapter 92

 

Chapter 92

BELIEF BECAUSE THE FATHERS BELIEVED?

 

Taqlid.

001 The Quran claims that non-Muslims believe in other gods because their fathers (and others) told them that this and this religion was the true one - what Islam calls taqlid. But Islam "forgets" that just this also is the case for Muslims, as there exists not one valid proof for that Islam is THE true religion, or even A true religion. (Actually there are lots and lots of proofs for that things are wrong in the Quran and thus in Islam - one typical fact for strong believers in any religion, is their ability to believe not because the religion is proved, but in spite of that it is proved wrong. Muslims are just like ordinary Pagans here - like the Quran, it is clear that most Pagan religions are not from any real god (for the Quran this is documented by all the wrong facts, other errors, wrong logic, contradictions, etc. in the book - no omniscient god makes contradictions and errors by the hundreds and more). Muslims believe that the Quran is the truth only because their fathers, teachers, and others tell them that their fathers again told them that the Quran was the truth, and then it must be true. As there is not one valid proof for that the Quran is the truth, and even lots of proofs for that the book is not from any god and that much of it is not true, taqlid - and pressure - are the main reasons why Muslims believe the Quran really is the truth - perhaps the only reasons for many.

####### Another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that texts in the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt the book.

Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. #### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 known versions accepted by Islam of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions through the times) - is in case the correct one?

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable are that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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002 2/13a: "Believe as the others believe - - -". This is an invalid argument, as the fact that some or even many believe, does not prove their belief is true. The argument merits that one looks into the belief and check if it may be true or not. To follow believers without checking their belief, is just to go along with the flock of sheep, and as sheep are not the most intelligent of animals, they not always end at the best places. And honestly: If you just follow the sheep in blind belief, you deserve whatever you get.

Islam has the word "taqlid" = to deny what conflicts with old or wishful thinking f.x. inherited from ones fathers. (Or to be more exact: To accept what parents and scholars say without asking for or checking proofs for what they say is true.) This quote tells Muslims that they shall rely on taqlid and what others believe. Do not use your brain and knowledge to evaluate if what your fathers and others told you - use taqlid.

003 2/18: “Deaf, dumb, and blind – they (“infidels”, apostates*) will not return (to Islam*)". Yes, they have to be deaf, dumb, and blind if they question all which is wrong in the Quran. A reason for looking down on them. Though a bit ironic as the Quran demands deaf and blind belief - "taqlid".

004 2/170c: "'Follow what Allah hath revealed.' - - - 'Nay! We (non-Muslims*) will follow the ways of our fathers'. What! even though their fathers were void of wisdom and guidance?" A thought-provoking verse when one knows Islam demands everybody shall follow the Quran - today "the ways of their fathers" ("taqlid") - a book so full of mistakes, errors, contradictions, invalid logic, etc. that there is no reliable wisdom and guidance to find, only a traditional way of the fathers.

005 2/170e: "We shall follow the ways (religion*) of our fathers". Exactly what the Muslims are doing (= "taqlid"). Also see 26/74c below.

006 2/171b: "- - - those who reject Faith are as if one was deaf, dumb, and blind, they are void of all wisdom". Here it may be relevant to think of what happened in the religious Muslim middle ages: All knowledge not related to religion little by little were frozen out or forbidden. From 1095 AD on (partly because of the book "The Incoherence of the Philosophers" by "the greatest Muslim after Muhammad", Al-Ghazali) there did not come one single new idea or thought which could benefit humanity for some 850 years from central and eastern Muslim area (in the western area the freeze came ca. 100 years later). No more comment.

A ps. about al-Ghazali: Full name Abu Hamed Muhammad ibn Muhammad al-Ghazali (1058 AD - Des. 1111 AD). To be very short he vehemently rejected science and philosophy (thinking), partly because persons like Aristotle, Socrates, etc. were non-Muslims, and their ideas thus could corrupt Islam. It instead was Allah who made everything happen. Not strange that no new ideas came for the better part of a millennium from Muslim area.

It also is thought provoking that Muhammad demanded blind belief, and Islam of today demands blind and unquestioning belief in ones father's religion - "taqlid".

007 2/177e: “- - - to believe in Allah and the last day, and the Angles, and the Book, and the Messengers - - -“. Muslim scholars say this is like ##### accepting the “heavenly revelations” as facts – clearly Islam’s meaning also today, even though absolutely nothing is proved or documented, and it all rests well on blind belief in your fathers belief- "taqlid" - in what a morally very suspect and perhaps mentally sick (TLE?) person once told. And one thought provoking fact: In all other aspects of life naivety and blindness is the most sure way to be cheated by deceivers and swindlers - but in such a serious case as religion Islam glorifies and advices and demands blind belief and acceptance as the claimed only rational thing.

008 2/177p: "- - - the people of truth - - -". = Muslims, as the Quran claims Islam is the religion of truth (a bit ironic for a religion believing in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), deceit, betrayal, and even breaking of words/promises/oaths like Muhammad did and advised)".

It also is naivety bordering the unbelievable that most Muslims, and all Muslim scholars know Muhammad accepted and even for many purposes promoted the use of dishonesty as working tools, and know he himself used it - some of the relevant stories about Muhammad, his view on deceit, etc. and on his own use of it, are too well known in Islam (some of them - f.x. the betrayal of the peace delegation from Khaybar - even subject for bragging about how smart Muhammad was - in spite of all this Muslims do not even ask the question: This man who obviously accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty towards many others, and a man whom the Quran clearly shows liked respect and power, wanted riches for bribes to keep and enlarge his power, and who provably was a great womanizer and even a rapist (at least all the Muslim scholars know about the use of dishonesty and the rapes) - this man, can he have cheated also us?

Not to even ask this question, is logically unbelievable. On the other hand Islam cannot afford to ask that question, because the entire religion is built only - only - on the words of this man, and if he is not saintly reliable, Islam is a made up and false - name it pagan - religion. "Better believe what we believe, that to check if our belief really can be true. This even in the face of the price we may have to pay if there is a next life, and if it turns out that we have been deceived by a man which we know obviously basically had an immoral moral code and a liking for power and women".

And this also in the face of that literally thousands of "representatives" for - mostly - made up gods through the times have used/disused religion as their platform of power.

"Taqlid".

009 3/106b: "Did ye (non-Muslims, apostates*) reject Faith, after accepting it? Taste then the Penalty for rejecting Faith". One of the worst sins possible to commit according to Muhammad, was and is - to leave Islam. As the Quran claims it is the gravest of sins, Muslims in "taqlid" and without questioning anything accepts that it is the gravest of sins. ("Taqlid" = naively and without questions to accept what your father and surroundings claim must be the truth, because so their fathers again claimed.)

#010 5/104e: "They (non-Muslims*) say: 'Enough for us (non-Muslims*) are the ways we found our fathers following'". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem of full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

  1. When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.
  2. The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.
  3. The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

And not to be forgotten: "Enough for us are the ways we found our fathers following", are just the words of the majority of the Muslims. Taqlid.

###011 5/104f: "Enough for us (non-Muslims*) are the ways we found our fathers following". = We non-Muslims prefer to follow the religion of our fathers. A way of thinking which Muhammad found much wanting - - - but which is just what most Muslims of all times have been and are doing; our parents and our surroundings told this religion was the true one and worthy of blind and unthinking belief, and then we follow their beliefs - as they and others say so, it must be the truth.

###012 5/104g: "'Enough for us (non-Muslims*) are the ways we found our fathers following'

What! Even though their fathers were void of knowledge and guidance?". This is exactly the Muslims' position: The reason why they believe in the Quran, is "taqlid" - the uncritical acceptance of what their parents and everyone else was and is telling them that the tales of Muhammad must be true no matter if Muhammad is reliable or a Baron von Münchausen - a strong and blind belief only.

####013 6/108d: “Thus have We (Allah*) made alluring to each people its own doings”.

Comment A6/92 (A6/93 in the 2008 English edition): “Lit., ‘thus godly have we made….', etc. implying that it is in the nature of man to regard the belief which have been implanted in him from babyhood, and which he now shares with his social environment, as the only true and possible ones – with the result that a polemic against those beliefs often tends to provoke a hostile psychological reaction.” This is said as an explanation why Islam sometimes meets a negative reaction. ######But the book skips the fact that this also goes for Muslims: If they are strongly indoctrinated, they may react strongly to arguments and facts they do not like – and without thinking over, or being mentally able to think over – even true facts. ###############This - and also the lack of the backbone it takes to really evaluate the religious "truths" behind your religion, your moral code, your culture, etc. - is likely to be the explanation for why most Muslims are able to be blind to all the mistakes and proofs for that things are very wrong in the Quran and thus with Muhammad and in Islam.

014 7/28a: "When they do aught that is shameful, they say: 'We found our fathers doing so;' and 'Allah commanded us thus". Read f.x. the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, its unjust and/or immoral parts of the sharia laws + its rules for raids, wars and behavior during and after such, and see if this verse is about the Muslims or not. Also see 7/27b just below.

015 7/28aa: "When they do aught that is shameful, they say: 'We found our fathers doing so - - -". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

  1. When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.
  2. The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.
  3. The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

###016 7/28ab: "We found our fathers doing so". The reason why Muslims keep believing in the Quran, is that their fathers - and surroundings - tell them that the Quran must be true, and then they blindly believe this. But it is not possible for a person with reasonable knowledge about the world and different sciences, and with a reasonable quality brain, who study the Quran honestly trying to find out; "is this true or not" not to end in skepticism or stronger.

###017 7/70c: "- - - the cult of our (the 'Ad people's*) fathers - - -". This is meant as hidden irony. But the real irony is that Islam only is "the cult of the fathers" - "taqlid" - as absolutely nothing is proved, and even lots of it is proved wrong + that all the wrong points prove 100% and more that no god was involved in the Quran and thus in the religion. Superstition often is mistaken for a religion. Most or all pagan religions simply are superstition.

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##018 7/101d: “- - - they (non-Muslims*) would not believe what they had rejected before.” (Literally: “- - - to which they had given the lie aforetime”.

#####Comment A7/80 (7/82 in the 2008 English edition): “- - - an allusion to the instinctive unwillingness of most people to give up the notions – positive or negative – to which they are accustomed.”

But the book skips also here the fact that this also goes for Muslims: If they are strongly indoctrinated like Muslims are, they may react strongly to arguments and facts they do not like – and without thinking over – or being mentally unable to think over – even true facts. To live in "taqlid" - uncritical acceptance of what your father and surroundings believe is the truth - is easier and less demanding.

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019 7/173: "Our fathers before us may have taken false gods, but we are (their) descendants after them: wilt Thou (Allah*) then destroy us because of the deeds of men who were futile?" As the Quran with all its mistakes, contradictions, etc. is not from a god, this may be relevant for the Muslims - f.x. on the possible Day of Doom. The Quran and all its errors prove that Allah likely is one of the false gods.

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######020 10/32b: “- - - apart from Truth, what remains but error?” It is very clear that much of what is said in the Quran is not true – and then #####“what remains but error”?

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021 10/78b: "Hast thou (Moses*) come to us to turn us away from the ways we found our fathers following - - -". Contradicted by the Bible: In the Bible there is no religious debate between Moses and Ramses II - only: "Let my people go". (But one may wonder if the reason why Muslims are so reluctant even to check the truth behind all the mistakes in the Quran, is because they are unable to question the indoctrination from their fathers.) Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

022 11/62c: "Dost thou (now) forbid us (the Thamuds*) the worship of what our fathers worshipped?" Sentences like this might make one start thinking, when one knows that Muslims believe because their fathers and their and their mullahs/imams and teachers and surroundings tells this is the true belief because their fathers etc. have told them it was true, and because there is a strong social pressure never to question such claims - in one Arab word: Because of "taqlid". Muslims hardly ever go into the material with the question "where is the truth?"

#### 023 11/87c: "- - - the worship which our fathers practiced - - -". The reason why Muslims believe in Islam is that their fathers and surroundings claim it is the truth, not that they ever have gone into the material to see if it at all is possible that it can be the truth. (Which it is not with all those mistakes, etc. in the Quran).

024 11/109a: "They (pagans*) worship nothing but what their fathers worshipped (before them)". Most likely correct. But what if the Quran is made up? - it is not from a god with that many mistakes, etc., etc. In that case this is exactly what also all Muslims do each and every day. And even worse if the book is from some dark forces, like its everlasting and partly immoral and unethical moral and ethical codes - and lack of empathy - may implicate.

There also is no doubt that the main reason why most Muslims believe in Allah and Muhammad, is that their fathers and surroundings have told and told and told them since they were babies, that the Quran is the truth.

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025 12/3f: "- - - before this (the surahs of the Quran*), thou too (Muslims*) wast among those who knew it (the religion?*) not". Comment A12/3: "(The Arab words "la'allakum ta'qilun" here*) are meant to impress upon everyone who listens to or reads the Quran that its appeal is directed, primarily, to man's reason, and that the "feeling" alone can never provide a sufficient basis of faith". Muhammad understood psychology and used similar claims rather frequently - impressing on his followers that "you are intelligent who understand and follow my teachings" - to be told they are wise and intelligent is flattering, especially for uneducated and/or naive persons. #####But if Islam had been based on knowledge and peoples' intelligence and reason, it had disappeared fast and become a bloody comma and a sample of peoples' incredible ability to believe in spite of knowledge and facts, and of their as incredible ability to be blind to everything they do not want to see. Islam rests on the gut feeling that what my parents and everyone else told me was right when I was a child and later, and what all my surroundings and imams claim is the truth, is the truth - simply on "taqlid" to use an Arab word - and the mistakes in the Quran are just that the others do not know anything or do not understand that the "explanations" mean there are no mistakes anyhow, and the facts others point to are just lies from "Muslim-haters", and, therefore, there is no reason to check or think over facts not consistent with Islam. The same goes for its partly horrible moral code.

(There is much in that moral code - and Islam only have a moral code, no moral philosophy, as everything has to be done like Muhammad said or did - which is far from the basis for all real inter-human moral: "Do unto others like you want others do unto you".)

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026 14/10k: “Ye (the claimed prophets*) wish to turn us (pagan Arabs*) away from the (gods) our fathers used to worship: then bring us some clear authority.” These pagans did not say no - they asked for proof. Proofs would have made an impression, but like Muhammad Islam's(?) prophets(?) also at these times could prove nothing. But no doubt: People asked for proofs. Muhammad only had fast talk and claims to offer instead of proofs.

####027 21/53b: "We (Abraham's people*) found our fathers worshipping them". #####This is as true for Muslims as for anyone else. A man once told a tale. Some ones believed it and told their children by mouth or in writing. The children told their children that this was true, without ever checking if it even could be true. And so on generation after generation. Not one single comma is proved about Islam. It is only that once upon a time some forefathers started believing the tales of a charismatic leader. And this in spite of clear and overwhelming proofs for that something is - or more correctly; many things are - very wrong in his tales, and in spite of knowing very well that he believed in using lies, deceiving and even breaking of oaths, and in spite of knowing he wanted power plus riches for bribes for more power - and women - - - just so like many a self proclaimed prophet through the times. (And in this case it might be thought provoking that many a false prophet went far out for riches and power and women, whereas none of the known real(?) prophets were much interested in such things (NB: Men like David and Solomon in the Bible are not reckoned to be prophets, but mighty kings)).

We may add that it is typical for blind belief in the surrounding's religion - "taqlid" in Arab - in any religion, included Islam, to believe not because of proofs, but in spite of proofs. This in spite of the very obvious fact that a religion which is clearly proved wrong, obviously is on a wrong track and will lead its followers to no paradise if there is a next life. Man is a strange creature sometimes: When strong belief collides with clear and true facts, the clear facts can home whistling a song.

This verse is not from the Bible - just like so many other "Biblical" tales in the Quran.

028 22/71d: "- - - things for which no authority has been sent down to them, and of which they have (really) no knowledge - - -". As the Quran is not from a god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc. - what is then the authority behind Islam? This even more so as all the believed knowledge only rests on a book full of mistakes, dictated by a man of very doubtful morality, and nothing more - except the never proved belief of the forefathers who believed in that book - - - and plus taqlid (servile and uncritical acceptance of your father's belief).

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##029 23/1d: (A23/11): “- - - a Quranic allusion to the fact that people often reject a new ethical proposition on no better grounds than that it conflicts with their “inherited” habits of thoughts and ways of life. Indirectly, this allusion implies a condemnation of all blind "taqlid", i.e. an unthinking acceptance of religious doctrines or assertions which are not unequivocally supported by divine revelations, the explicit teachings of a prophet, or the evidence of the unprejudiced reason”.

  1. #####But the book skips the fact that this also goes for Muslims, especially needed as the Quran with all its errors is no revelation from any god: If they are strongly indoctrinated, they may react strongly to arguments and facts they do not like – and without thinking over or being mentally able to think over – even true facts.
  2. The book here has tailor-made a definition to fit Islam. It has forgotten (?) that for one thing that reason is unable to find the right answer without full and correct information – and the Quran is full of mistakes - that claims about divine revelations are 15 to the dozen in some religious circles, and invalid as proofs without documentation (something Muhammad and Allah were unable to produce) – and that the same goes for any self proclaimed prophet, and especially so if his teachings are very much wanting and he himself a questionable person (like the real Muhammad was). Not to mention "the evidence of the unprejudiced reason" - a meaningless expression in a culture where unprejudiced reason does not exist. This expression in reality in Islam is a claim for "belief on basis of blind belief". But definitions like this frequently are used in Islam and many Muslims really believe this is ok. logic - - - which makes straight thinking difficult for them.
  3. 1: There is not one point in the Quran which is proved to be a divine revelation - lots of claims, but not one valid proof.
  4. 2: All the wrong facts and other errors in the Quran prove that the book is not from any god - no divine revelation.
  5. 3: As Muhammad also according to the Quran was unable to make prophesies = he was no prophet. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself, but no prophet.
  6. 4: Reason - prejudiced or unprejudiced - never is a proof for anything. Reason can make conclusions, but ONLY on basis of facts or proofs - reason itself never is a fact or a proof. This is one of Islam's ways of disusing logic to try to construct "proofs" for Islam, and for the Quran's claimed reliability.

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030 23/24i: “- - - (moreover) we (non-Muslims*) have never heard (anything like) this from our forebears of old!” (A23/11): "(This is*) a Quranic allusion to the fact that people often reject a new ethical position on no better grounds than that it conflicts with their inherited habits of thoughts and ways of life. Indirectly, this allusion implies a condemnation of all blind "taqlid", i.e., an unthinking acceptance of religious doctrines or assertions - - -". The bad fact is that this also goes for Muslims, and even more so as no god revealed a book with so many and grave errors like the Quran.

#####031 26/67d: (YA3173): "- - - people who are blind in their obstinate resistance to the Truth, accomplish their own destruction - - -". Worth thinking over as all the errors in the Quran, etc. and also the fact that Muhammad sometimes speaks in the book, and even at least a few lies the book, proves 100% and more that it is an unavoidable truth that something is seriously wrong with the Quran - and hence with Islam. (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

###032 26/74c: “They (Abraham's people*) said: ‘Nay, but we found our fathers doing thus (what we do)”.

(A26/38): “(Zamakhshari): ‘- - - ancient usage and precedence in time are no proof of (a concept’s) soundness”. Razi, for his part, states that (this*) verse represents ‘one of the strongest (Quranic) indications of the immorality (Arab “fasad”*) inherent in (the principle of) "taqlid", i.e. the blind, unquestioning adoption of religious concepts or practices on basis of one’s uncritical faith in no more than the “authority” of a scholar or a religious leader.”

  1. But the book skips the fact that this also goes for Muslims: If they are strongly indoctrinated, they may react strongly to arguments and facts they do not like – and without thinking over – or being mentally able to think over – even true facts. And also for them it is highly immoral just to accept a religion or something just because their fathers and others believe in it.
  1. But there hardly is a major religion more authoritative and with a clearer demand for blind belief than Islam. Or with stronger and more ruthless indoctrination.

Also see 6/108d and 23/1d above.

####033 29/8e: "- - - knowledge - - -". Comment (A29/4): "According to Razi, this phrase may also allude to concepts not evolved through personal knowledge but, rather, acquired through a blind, uncritical acceptance of other people's views (taqlid)". How many Muslims have become Muslims because they have studies diverse religions and found that in spite of all the errors in the Quran, this must be the one and true religion, and ###########how many simply have accepted what their surroundings and fathers have claimed to be the truth - a taqlid?

034 31/21e: "'Nay, we non-Muslims*) shall follow the ways that we found our fathers (following)' What! Even if it is Satan beckoning them to the Penalty of the (Blazing) Fire?" But this is just what Muslims are doing - blindly and without real questions following the old beliefs.

"- - - it is in the nature of man to regard the beliefs which have been implanted in him from childhood, and which he now shares with his social environment, as the only true and possible ones" - which explains in details why Muslims believe in spite of all facts proving something is seriously wrong with the religion.

(Also see 6/108b): “Thus have We (Allah*) made alluring to each people its own doings”. ***Comment A6/92 (A6/93 in the 2008 English edition): “Lit., ‘thus godly have we made….”, etc. implying that it is in the nature of man to regard the belief which have been implanted in him from childhood, and which he now shares with his social environment, as the only true and possible ones – with the result that a polemic against those beliefs often tends to provoke a hostile psychological reaction.” This is said as an explanation why Islam sometimes meets a negative reaction. But the book skips the fact that this also goes for Muslims: If they are strongly indoctrinated, they may react strongly to arguments and facts they do not like – and without thinking over, or being mentally able to think over – even to true facts.

To repeat it:But this is just what Muslims are doing - blindly and without real questions following the old beliefs. When our father tells us that the Quran is the truth, this must be correct, because so his grandfather told him!

###035 37/69-70: “Truly they found their fathers on the wrong path; so they (too) were rushed down their footsteps”.

Comment A37/25 (A37/27 in 2008 English edition): “I.e. blind imitation ("taqlid") of the – obviously absurd – beliefs, valuations and customs (f.x. parts of the Muslim “moral” code*) of one’s erring predecessors, and disregard of all evidence (!!!*) of the truth supplied by both reason and divine (?*) revelation, is here shown to be the principal cause of the suffering referred to - - -. (Zamakhshari)”.

No comments necessary – this also fits Muslims 100%, not to say 120%.

##036 43/24b: "Even if I (a self proclaimed prophet in Muhammad's tradition*) brought you (non-Muslims - here pagan Arabs most likely*) a better guidance than that which ye found your fathers following". The Quran is not better than the religion of the old pagan Arabs on the main point: None of them really represented gods - this included Islam, as it is built on a book so full of errors and worse, that no god ever was involved in its making. As for details, the Quran was/is a little better morally on a few points, but worse on others - like the nearly deification of raids and wars mainly for riches, slaves, power and forcing (by weapons or pressure) the new religion on others.

Irony: Islam has for many generations been based on taqlid = uncritical acceptance of their fathers’ claims concerning religion.

037 41/25a: “And We (Allah*) have destined for them (non-Muslims*) intimate companions (of like nature), who made alluring to them what was before them and behind them - - -.” Is this a description of Muslims surrounded by other Muslims telling them how nice and good the Quran's moral, ethical and judicial laws and rules are?.

###038 43/22c: "We (non-Muslims*) found our fathers following a certain religion, and we do guide ourselves by their footsteps". This also is the reason for why most Muslims believe in Islam: Their parents and others have made them believe it is the truth - no real proof has been given them (because such proofs simply have never existed). And few if any Muslim have ever checked if what their fathers believed, could be true.

###039 43/23b: (A43/23): “Rezi (one of the foremost Muslim scholars through the times*) says: ‘Had there been in the Quran nothing but these verses (43/20-24*), they would have sufficed to show the falsity of the principle postulating blind, unquestioning (by a Muslim) adoption of (another person’s) religious opinions (“ibtal al-qawl bi’t-raqlid”) - - -‘”.

If he had indicated Islam and the fathers and/or the imams, it hardly would be possible to say this more accurate. Islam is to a very large degree based on indoctrination, social and judicial pressure, and glorification of blind belief + even physical threats if you ask "wrong" questions, air a "wrong" fact, or leave the religion.

##040 43/24b: "Even if I (a self proclaimed prophet in Muhammad's tradition*) brought you (non-Muslims - here pagan Arabs most likely*) a better guidance than that which ye found your fathers following". The Quran is not better than the religion of the old pagan Arabs on the main point: None of them really represented gods - this included Islam, as it is built on a book so full of errors and worse, that no god ever was involved in its making. As for details, the Quran was/is a little better morally on a few points, but worse on others - like the nearly deification of raids and wars mainly for riches, slaves, power and forcing (by weapons or pressure) the new religion on others.

Irony: Islam has for many generations been based on taqlid = uncritical acceptance of their fathers’ claims concerning religion.

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