Allah in the Quran, Chapter 74

 

Chapter 74

ALLAH AND YAHWEH

 

Some of the places where the Quran directly or indirectly says or indicates that Yahweh = Allah.

Also see the chapter "Yahweh is NOT Allah, Allah is NOT Yahweh.

001 Muhammad claimed, the Quran claims, Islam claims, and Muslims claim that the old Jewish and Christian god, Yahweh, is the same god as Allah. But the two are far too different - and too deeply different, their religions are far too different (and remember here that it is solidly proved by both science and Islam that Muhammad's and the Quran's claims that the Bible is falsified, are wrong) and too fundamentally different, their moral codes are by very far and very fundamentally too different, etc. Those never proved claims simply are not true.

#####  Another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt it.

Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. #### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 known versions accepted by Islam of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions through the times) - is in case the correct one?

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable are that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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002 1/6: "- - - the straight way - - -". This is an Islamic expression for the road to heaven - similar to the Biblical expression in NT "the narrow road" as a contrast to the Bible's "the wide road to Hell". (But a "straight road" may be easier than a "narrow road" and more like "the wide road" - - - if it is real.)

Does it mean anything that the Quran talks about the straight - the easy - way, whereas the Bible talks about the narrow - the difficult - road? - except for that it shows that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, I mean. May it be populism vs. realism?

003 2/39b: “- - - Signs - - -“ Also written “Sign”, “His Signs”, “Our (Allah’s*) Signs” or “My (Allah’s*) Signs” or other variations. In “Quran-speak” it means an indication or a proof for Allah’s existence and/or the Quran’s connection to a god (and thus Muhammad's connection to a god). In reality it proves absolutely nothing, as without exception they only are lose statements or as loose claims just hanging in empty air, all built on nothing, because it never is proved or documented that Allah really said or did or created what the Quran in each case claims he said or did or created, and then uses as a “sign”. Or they rest on other claims which are not proved. According to all human thinking, all judicial laws, and also according to the even more strict laws of logic, such “proofs” flatly and simply are invalid and without any value.

After all a valid proof is: “One or more proved facts which can give only one logical conclusion”, and in the Quran all “signs” without exception builds on claimed “facts” which neither the book nor Islam proves – or are able to prove (well, there may be a few exception in the “signs” taken from the Bible, but they in case prove Yahweh, not Allah – we know that Muslims and the Quran like to say that those two just are different names for the same god, but that is not true unless the god is strongly ill mentally (schizophrenic), as the teachings fundamentally are too different (more about this other places in this book and in “1000+ Mistakes in the Quran”.)).

The same goes for claimed "proofs" in the Quran - extra ironic in those not few cases where the claimed proofs are not only invalid, but wrong.

In addition there is the fact that any priest in any religion can claim exactly the same for his god(s) as Muslims claim for Allah, in absolutely all cases where the words “sign(s)” or "proof(s)" in the Quran are not borrowed from the Bible, as long as no real proof or no real documentation is demanded brought forth – words are that cheap. “Baal makes the sun rise in the east. Allah cannot make it rise in the west. Then Baal is the real god and Allah a fake one.” Infantile “proofs”? - but this is the kind of level you find on the “signs” and “proofs” in the Quran (This example is taken from the Quran – Abraham is proving his god Allah, but of course with Allah as the hero. Totally invalid as a proof).

###As said the claims logically are absolutely without any value as indication/proof for a deity, not to mention for a specific god – f.x. Allah. And it documents an interesting fact: Islam has got not one single proof neither for Allah, nor for verification of the Quran, nor for Muhammad’s connection to a deity. IF THEY HAD HAD ONE SINGLE SUCH PROOF – EVEN A SMALL ONE – YOU BET THEY HAD TOLD ABOUT IT AND USED IT! Islam is only built on lose words and as loose and unproved claims - - - made by a man whose words hardly would have been accepted as “bona fide” proofs in Old Bailey, London. The underlying claims that the so-called signs have a value as proofs or at least indications for Allah simply are wrong unless Islam first proves that Allah really was/is behind the “signs” or "proofs".

You find the words "sign(s)" and "proof(s)" used many places in the Quran. Beware that they all - or at least most of them - are Quran-speak for "Proof for Allah" - - - and that not one of them is a valid proof for neither Allah nor for Muhammad's connection to a god, let alone to Allah - if he exists.

004 2/40b: "- - - your (Jews'*) Covenant with Me (the god - here indicated Allah*)". The Quran admits here and other places that the Jews had a covenant with their god. It was broken and mistreated - and renewed - many times. But it is nowhere even in the Quran really said it was ever terminated - and definitely not in the Bible. And if it was never terminated (though Muslims say the opposite), at least formally it is active and valid even today. It may be a point here that Jesus renewed it (f.x. Luke 22/20). It is never said in the Quran that the covenant the Jews had with Yahweh (though Muhammad claimed it was Allah) was valid also for Muslims.

005 2/47a: "O Children of Israel! Call to mind the (special) favor which I bestowed upon you, and that I preferred you to all others (for My Message (this seems not to be in the original Arab text, but added by the translator - may be to reduce the value of the message))." This refers to the Covenant Yahweh made with Abraham and later renewed with the Jews several times - the last time mentioned in the relevant books around 30-33 AD by Jesus ("the New Covenant" - f.x. Luke 22/20). This has at least one serious implication which Muslims NEVER mention when they scold the Jews for haughtily, etc. believing they will be saved, or at least have a special relationship to Yahweh: This old covenant has never been terminated (though Muslims like to say the opposite), and it is the old covenant Jews rely on, not their relationship to Abraham. Broken and disused and renewed, but never terminated: It has been disused and maltreated, but Yahweh never has ended it. Religious Jews and Israel therefore acted because of the covenant and because they saw a lot of mistakes in the Quran, not because of haughtiness, stupidity, etc. And as you see even the Quran accepts that Israel/the Jews have a special standing onto Yahweh - superstition or not.

006 2/49e: "- - - a tremendous trial from your Lord - - -". Contradicting the Bible - according to the Bible this was not a trial from Yahweh, but from the Egyptians.

007 2/50a: “- - - We (Allah*) divided the sea for you (Moses and his Jews*) - - -“. From other places in the Quran (and in most translations of the Bible) it is told that this was the Red Sea. But in the Hebrew original the name is Yam Suph, which as well can mean “The Sea of Reeds” (this also is confirmed in many footnotes in NIV (“New International Version” of the Bible)). The Sea of Reeds (also called the Timsah Sea) used to be a big lake where the Suez Canal now runs – not far from the Bitter Seas. The name tells it was just a shallow lake – the longest reeds we have been able to find, is a kind of rice that can be up to 5 - 7 m long and grows in the big sea Tonle Sap in Cambodia, and the reeds growing in this area of Egypt are shorter - - - and the water cannot be deeper than the reeds get their “heads” above the water to get that name.

It is possible to find the lake on old maps from before the Suez Canal was built, f.x. one surveyed by the French Army Cartographers in 1797-98 (Napoleon Bonaparte was in Egypt), and printed in Paris in 1826. (Available at the David Rumsey Historical Map Archive on Internet). It seems that the lake not only was shallow, but so shallow that it could dry out at times of the year when it did not get water from the Nile.

Also look at the map: Goshen where the Jews settled was in the river delta of the Nile. To get to Sinai they had to go south-south-east. It would be stupidity beyond any credibility to go so far west that they ended at the western side of the Red Sea instead of walking all the way on dry land, and thus force such a huge number of people and animals to cross the sea by boats they did not have (remember they did not know about the opening of the sea – fire/smoke-column or not (= the pathfinder/Yahweh according to the Bible)). After all they according to the Bible were 600ooo men + women + children + animals and belongings = some 2.ooo.ooo humans at least. (Theoretically it is quite possible for 70 – 100 (depending on how many wives his 11 sons in the group had) persons that came with Jacob + Joseph and his family, to become may be 2.ooo.ooo “Jews” 430 years later. (Plus it is likely many other slaves claimed they were Jews and joined them, to get freedom.))

Science tells that – if the Exodus took place – the “Jews” quite likely were overtaken as they marched or camped along that lake, just like the Hebrew name in the OT may indicate.

*008 2/53b: “- - - We (Allah*) gave Moses the scripture - - -”. The books named after Moses (the 5 first in the Bible - the Torah) are not written by Moses and not even at the time of Moses. Moses lived (if he is not a fiction) around 1300-1200 BC (if the Exodus from Egypt really took place, it took place ca. 1235 BC during the reign of Pharaoh Ramses II according to science), and those books were written not earlier than ca. 800 BC - perhaps as late as 500 BC - also this according to science. (But remember there is a difference between writing down a story later, and falsifying a story, like Muslims claims - without and even against documentation. It also is likely there were written documents). What Moses got according to the Bible, were the 10 Commandments written in stone + he was told the law (parts of what later was called the Book (or Books) of Moses - in 2/53 called the Scriptures) which he himself wrote down afterward (this sometimes is called "the Book of Covenant" - f.x. 2. Mos. 24/7). A god had known this, whereas Muhammad knew nothing about their real age, and had to guess. (To be exact: The Bible says that Yahweh told Moses the law – nothing material except the two stone tablets where the ten Commandments were inscribed, were brought down from the mountain – and that he himself wrote down the laws afterward. OT also says that when Solomon moved the Ark of Covenant into the Temple in Jerusalem (1.Kings 8/9), it only contained the two stone tablets. There is nothing about “the Books of Moses”, though the OT makes it clear that the laws existed in writing and were found again later – but science is unanimous that the Books of Moses (you also see it written in singular) are written much later. If Muslims claim something else, they will have to produce proofs.) The law really only is part of the Torah/Books of Moses, but the name often is used for the complete "books of Moses".

009 2/54d: "- - - for He (in reality Yahweh, but here indicated Allah*) is - - - Most Merciful". Most Merciful is one of Allah's claimed 99 names, but see 1/1a and 1/1e above and see if you agree.

010 2/60c: 12 springs gushing forth - copied from pre-Islamic legends. Contradicting the Bible, but quite likely based on a mix up of Biblical texts. 2. Mos. 15/27 says: "Then they (the Jews) came to Elim, where there were 12 springs - - -", and later in Rephidim: "(Yahweh said*)"'Strike the rock, and water will come out of it for the people to drink'. So Moses did in the sight of the elders of Israel (and a spring appeared*)". 2 different incidents mixed up in the Quran it seems. The old problem: Muhammad did not know the Bible and took his(? - he may have had helpers) stories from tales, legends and fairy tales circulating in Arabia.

011 2/64: "The Grace and Mercy of Allah (in reality Yahweh*)- - -". See 1/1a and 1/1e above.

012 2/73c: "Thus Allah bringeth the dead to life - - -". Even if we skip the fact that according to the Bible Allah was not involved with Moses (confirmed with the fact that nobody has found any traces anywhere from a religion like Islam or a god like Allah older than 610 AD = some 2ooo years later) - his god was Yahweh - this is an interesting claim, as the Quran several places claims Allah has the power of resurrection, but never documents it - there only are the claims like here. (Whereas there are at least 8 cases of resurrection in the Bible - 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Matt. 9/25 (and Mark 5/41 and Luke 8/55), John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt 27/52, Acts 20/10, and Jesus.)

013 2/92aa: "- - - Moses with clear signs - - -". Well, but according to the Bible - remember that it is proved not falsified - those signs in case were for Yahweh, not for Allah.

014 2/99a: “We (Allah*) have sent down to thee (people*) manifest Signs - - -“. The Quran is overloaded with what it says are “signs” (indicated to be proofs) and “Clear Signs” or like here “manifest Signs” (indicated to be strong proofs) – and not one single of them proves anything about Allah or the Quran or Muhammad, as the book NEVER proves, only claims, that Allah did this or that which it then calls a “sign” or a “clear sign” or a “proof” (there may be some exceptions for signs taken from the Bible, but those in case prove Yahweh, not Allah – and only Islam claims that Yahweh and Allah is the same god (which they cannot be, unless the god is schizophrenic – they are too different, especially when Yahweh is acting according to the New Covenant from NT (f.x. Luke 22/20), which came some 580 years before Muhammad started his preaching, but which Muslims never mention). Especially claims for “Clear Signs” are so obviously wrong, that it is impossible not to include them in the column: “Mistaken facts”. They are not signs – and definitely no clear signs - for a god, and even if they were, they absolutely were no clear signs for Allah, because any priest in any religion can make just the same claims for his god or gods – words are that cheap as long as no proofs are required - - - cheap also for Muhammad.

015 2/103c: "- - - their (Jews' and perhaps Christians'*) Lord (here indicated Allah*) - - -". Wrong. Their god was and is Yahweh. This is a historical fact. See 29/46ec below.

##016 2/116a: “They say; ‘Allah has begotten a son”, (which the Quran vehemently denies*). But Jesus often called God/Yahweh father, and thus contradicted the Quran - there were many, many witnesses to this. If he spoke the truth - and even the Quran says he was honest - this in case means the Quran is wrong here. (Yahweh is called the father of Jesus at least 204 times in the Bible, and Jesus the son of Yahweh at least 89 times, according to our latest leafing through the Bible - and we hardly have found all places). And remember: In spite of undocumented claims from Islam, science has showed that the Bible is not falsified. The same Islam has proved even more thoroughly by not finding any falsifications in all the tens of thousands relevant old manuscripts, not to mention how strongly they prove the same by having to resort to made up scriptures like f.x. "the 'gospel' of Barnabas (which may be one of the many "scriptures" Muslims in Spain made up during the 800s and 900s AD. There also is a possibility that it was made not in Spain, but in Baghdad. Remember here Islam's rules for al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie: Al-Taqiyya is permitted in several cases, and not only permitted, but should be used "if necessary" to defend or to forward Islam) - a very good proof for that they lack true facts and arguments, as you do not stoop to bluffs and dishonesty if you have good facts.

Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

017 2/124a: "And remember that Abraham was tried by his Lord - - -." This refers to Abraham being ordered to sacrifice his son. The Bible tells it was Isaac - "his only son" (Ishmael and his Egyptian mother Hagar had been sent away from the home of Abraham, and Isaac was the only one Abraham had left) - whereas Islam claims it was Ishmael. As the Bible makes it clear that Hagar and Ishmael settled near the border of Egypt, Ishmael also was far off when this happened - highly unlikely that Abraham traveled all the way to fetch him for a sacrifice (Islam claims Hagar and Ishmael settled in Mecca - even further off. The Bible tells this happened long after Hagar and Ishmael were sent off - 1. Mos. 21/22: "At that time (the time when Hagar and were sent away*)" the Treaty of Beersheba was made. 1. Mos. 22/: "Some time later (after the Treaty of Beersheba*) God (Yahweh*) tested Abraham).

018 2/124c: (Allah said): "I will make you (Abraham*) an Imam (priest) to the Nations". What the Bible says (1.Mos. 22/18) is: "- - - and through your offspring all nations will be blessed - - -". One should here add 1.Mos. 21/12: (Yahweh said to Abraham): "- - - it is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned". The quote from the Quran is a contradiction to the Bible. The Bible gives no indication for that Abraham should be a priest or something.

019 2/124d: (Abraham begged Allah/Yahweh): "And also (Imams) from my offspring!" There is nothing like this in the Bible. Contradiction.

##020 2/125e: "We (Allah*) covenanted with Abraham and Ishmael - - -". The Bible is contradicting: (1.Mos.17/21) Yahweh says: "But my covenant I will make with Isaac" ("covenant" in singular = only through Isaac). And many years later to Isaac's son Jacob (and now Ishmael is totally out of the picture) similar words like the ones which were said to Abraham 2 generations earlier (1.Mos. 28/14): "All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring". There is no doubt according to the Bible with which branch of Abraham's descendants the god covenanted. Even if the Arabs really were descendants of Ishmael, they had belonged to the wrong branch of the family - they were not the offspring of Jacob, and not even of Isaac. And it is likely this might be the reality - at the time when the Torah was written, there was no reason for the writers to place Ishmael and his descendants at the border of Egypt (1.Mos. 25/18) if he really lived in Arabia - Muhammad and his competing religion still was 1000 years into the unknown future when it was written. But for Muhammad the situation was different: It is quite common for emerging sects and religions to "high-jack" parts of a mother religion - it gives "weight" and tradition to the new sect/religion. For Muhammad it would pay to "take over" a known name like Ishmael. It obviously also would pay for him to take over the claimed center of the religious word - even a made up claim works if people believe in it.

Another fact: Modern DNA-analysis has shown that the Arabs are no coherent tribe. They are a mixture of many nations - not strange lying at a crossroad with travelers passing thought, and where sex and alcohol were "the two delightful things" until Muhammad took over - not to forget that the Arabs also originally was a mixture of people from all around who moved in at the time Arabia was settled. And also Arab tradesmen brought brides and slaves back home even long before Muhammad, not to mention all the slave women who were brought home after the robberies, etc. made the Arabs rich enough to afford more/many women, included Negro and other women from near and far. The "Arab Blood" is strongly diluted and mixed up, and even was never a homogenous tribe originally.

021 2/125-132: This is too long to quote, but it is clear that according to the Quran Abraham was a devoted Muslim and bowed to Allah in Islam long before Muhammad. These verses thus clearly contradict the verse 6/14 and some others in one of the two possible meanings of that verse. See 6/14 below. Not to mention that it contradicts the OT where Abraham is said to believe in Yahweh.

022 2/126a: “- - - Abraham said: ‘Make this (Mecca*) a City Of Peace - - -.” Wrong. Abraham never was in Mecca, unless Islam provides solid proofs for it. See 2/125d above and 2/217a below.

024 2/126b: “- - - Abraham said: ‘Make this (Mecca*) a City Of Peace - - -.” This is not from the Bible, the only known source for information about Abraham. And as the Quran also is not from a god - too much is wrong in the book - from where did Muhammad get these pieces of information? The only sources possible are legends, fairy tales or fantasy.

023 2/126c: “- - - Abraham said: ‘Make this (Mecca*) a City Of Peace - - -.” This is quite a contradiction, both with reality, as at the time of Muhammad 2500 years later Mecca was not a really old city (we have not found the age of Mecca, but it definitely is much younger than Abraham - and the same goes for even the oldest parts of the Kabah - - - unless Islam proves the opposite (and today it is possible to measure the age of even the oldest parts (may the reason why Islam does not measure it be that they fear the real age? - if the oldest parts are from f.x. 100 - 200 AD, it proves that the information in the Quran is wrong), and with the Quran. The Quran tells that Hagar run around in this empty desert valley where Mecca once in the future became situated, finding neither people nor water after being left by Abraham when Abraham already was some 101 years old. ######And here Abraham all the same talks about "this City" Mecca!!

What is absolutely sure is that this quote in the Quran is wrong, as there existed no city at the time of Abraham.

024 2/127d: "- - - Abraham and Ishmael raised the foundation of the House (Kabah mosque in Mecca*) - - -". This is never mentioned in the Bible, which it should have been if Yahweh and Allah had been the same god, and if the Kabah was so central and holy for this god like described in the Quran.

Also: Today it is possible to measure how old the oldest parts of the Kabah really is. Why has Islam not done this and proved that the age is in accordance with what the Quran tells?

025 2/133c: "- - - (the god) of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac - - -". This was said when Jacob died according to the Quran (you do not find this in the Bible). At that time Ishmael's descendants already were 3/4 Egyptian (both Ishmael's mother and wife were from Egypt (1.Mos. 20/21)) and they were living in hostility to the descendants of Isaac and Jacob (1.Mos. 25/18). They also were outside the covenant line through Isaac (1.Mos. 20/12). If you know a little about people, how likely is it that Ishmael was mentioned here?. (But Muhammad needed "quotes" like this to connect his new religion to an old one to give his religion a past.)

026 2/133g: (The sons of Jacob promised him before he died): "- - - the One (True) God (Allah*) - - -", See 2/255a .

027 2/135d: “- - - the Religion of Abraham - - -". There is nowhere any indication for that Abraham's religion was Islam. There only are Muhammad's claims. (According to the Bible - the only known perhaps reliable source - his god was Yahweh, not Allah.) There also nowhere in the world are found any kind of indications for a religion like Islam at that time. The nearest is the Mosaic one - Jewism - but also that one is very different from Islam: F.x. no war for the religion, not expansive, not suppressive (except for creating a national country), etc.

As for OT we remind you that both science, Islam (against their wish), and the combination of Jesus + the Qumran scrolls, each and separately proves that also OT is not falsified.

028 2/135h: (Abraham) "joined not gods with Allah". According to the Bible Abraham's god was Yahweh. (Islam likes to claim - but like always never prove - that Yahweh = Allah, but the basics of those two teachings are fundamentally so different that this is impossible, unless the god is mentally ill). Also see 2/132a above and 2/255a below.

029 2/135i: (Abraham) "joined not gods with Allah". Neither do Jews nor Christians. They only have one god. If Muhammad - and Muslims - does/do not understand the Trinity (Muhammad here was completely lost, mixing Mary into it), that is his/their problem - Christians understand it and know there only is one god, Yahweh (even though less than 10% of the Christians know this name, and only calls him God.) Also see 2/255a, 6/106b and 25/18a below.

030 2/139a: “Will ye (Jews and Christians) dispute with us about Allah, seeing that He is our Lord and your Lord - - -”. Islam likes to pretend or state without any proof that Allah and Yahweh/God are the same god. But both the gods and their teachings are very different - as said before especially if you compare the bloody god of war Allah was turned into in and after 622 AD after Muhammad came to need warriors for highwaymen and later for wars, with the far milder and more benevolent God (Yahweh) we meet in NT. The Quran makes a lot of statements, but not one single proof, even though it should be easy for Allah to prove something - at least his own existence. Besides: Read history (drop glorifying propaganda and judge from acts and deeds and demands and introduced rules of moral, etc.- "do against others like you want others do against you") - Muslim history like ibn Ishaq if you want - and the Hadiths, and also the Quran, and see what kind of a man Muhammad really was! We do not accept the word of a man with that kind of moral and ethical standards, without proofs - there has to be limits to being naïve. Also: Contradiction to the Bible.

031 2/139b: "- - - seeing that He (Allah*) is our (Muslim's*) Lord and your (non-Muslim's*) Lord - - -". At least for Jews and Christians this is impossible to see, as Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. Also see 29/46ec below.

032 2/139c: “- - - (Allah*) is our (Muslims’*) Lord and your (non-Muslim’s*) Lord - - -“. As this claim only is based on other, not proved claims, and especially as there exists other possibilities than Islam where at least some - f.x. Yahweh - are based on stronger traditions, this is an invalid statement, unless it is proved. After all if the old books tell the truth, the Bible proves a number of things concerning Yahweh, whereas the Quran was unable to prove even a comma. Plus: Severe contradiction to the Bible, as Allah cannot be the same god as Yahweh - fundamentally too different teachings. Also see 29/46ec below.

033 2/139d: “- - - (Allah*) is our (Muslims’*) Lord and your (non-Muslim’s*) Lord - - -“. Contradicted by the Bible, where it is Yahweh/God who is the god for Jews and Christians at least. And perhaps in reality for all others. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

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034 2/144j: "The people of the Book (Jews, Christians, Sabeans*) know well that that (the change of the qiblah*) is the truth from their Lord". Wrong. Their Lord is Yahweh, and Yahweh did not order this (well, except if he wanted to keep Muslims away from his followers).

Worse: This surah is from 622-624 AD in Medina. By the time (after 16 months in Yathrib/Medina) he changed the qiblah (direction of praying) from direction Jerusalem to direction Mecca, Muhammad knew that neither Jews nor the few Christians there believed there was much truth in Muhammad's preaching or that it derived from a god. And definitely he knew the Jews and the few Christians neither knew nor believed the change of Muhammad's qiblah was ordered by their god, Yahweh. This is one of the too many points in the Quran where Muhammad knew he was lying.

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035 2/144k: "- - - the truth from their (Jews' and Christians' mainly*) Lord". The Quran's intention here is to tell that the Quran is the truth and confirming the Bible. Both are wrong - and both contradict the Bible. A book with so many errors, etc. like the Quran at best is partly true. And the fundamental thoughts and lots and lots of fundamental details are so different between the Bible and the Quran, that the Quran in no way is confirming the Bible.

036 2/163b: "- - - there is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". One more claim without proofs or documentation - like more or less always in the Quran. Claims are cheap. Besides we are back to the problem with Yahweh, which contradicts this point. The Quran accepts that this originally Jewish god existed (exists?). Reality - the deep and fundamental differences in the teachings - prove they cannot be the same god, in spite of the Quran's many, but never documented claims. And whenever there are divergences between claims and reality, we always believe in the reality. Also science has proved that the Quran's never documented claims for explanation for these differences - falsifications of the Bible - are wrong, and Islam has proved the same even more strongly by not finding a single proved falsification among the tens of thousands of relevant manuscripts. If Allah exists, thus there has to be at least two gods. But Allah has never proved his existence - there only is Muhammad's words for him - a man who wanted power and more, and who used his religion as his platform of power - like so many self proclaimed prophets have done and do. And the same man who institutionalized al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc., (even though it only was formalized later), personally practiced deception and betrayal, and advised that one should even break ones oaths if that gave a better result. Also see 2/255a, 6/106b and 25/18a below.

037 2/210d: "But to Allah do all questions go back (for decision)". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells that what is decided by a god, is decided by Yahweh - a quite another god in spite of the Quran's claims, as the teachings of the two are far too different to be made by the same one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

#038 2/211a: “Ask the Children of Israel how many clear (signs) We (the god) have sent them.” Yes, if the Bible speaks the truth - quite a number. But this in case proves the Jewish/Christian god Yahweh, not Allah - as said f.x. in 29/47f below it is impossible that the two can be the same, even though Muslims like to pretend/say so - too many and too fundamental differences. (A small curiosity: A newspaper in Kuala Lumpur, capital of the Muslim country Malaysia, was forbidden to use the name Allah for the Christian God. (This has been done infrequently through history) “Allah is the name of the Muslim god, and cannot be used about the Christian one, (Yahweh or normally only called God by Christians*)”. Q.E.D: Allah is not Yahweh according to this Islamic country. And one more case where Muslims demand one rule for themselves - they use "God" for "Allah" in media meant for non-Muslims, as this camouflages some of the differences between Yahweh and Allah - and another for non-Muslims. (Later PS: This judgment later was overturned by the High Court, but all the same it shows something fundamental).

039 2/247c: “Allah hath appointed Talut (Saul in the Bible*) king over you (Jews shortly before 1000 BC*)”. Most likely it was Yahweh (God) who did so, or what? Allah and Yahweh is not the same god no matter what Islam wants – the fundamental differences of the teachings are too big and too many. Not unless the god is mentally ill – and of course only if he exists.

040 2/247d: "Allah hath chosen him (King Talut/Saul*) above you (Jews*), and hath gifted him abundantly with knowledge and bodily prowess: Allah granteth His authority to whom He pleaseth". Except for the bodily prowess, do you see the parallels to what Muhammad claimed about himself? There are many such parallels in Muhammad's tales. It was a way to illustrate that what he - Muhammad - met in his society, was similar to what was normal for prophets to meet and experience, and thus that Muhammad was a normal prophet (though the greatest of them all).

041 2/249a: "When Talut (King Saul*) set forth with his armies, he said: 'Allah (more likely Yahweh*) will test you at the stream - - -". This seems to be a mix-up of two stories in the Bible: Saul's wars with the Philistines, and Gideon's earlier war with the Midianites. Gideon had an episode where he chose his soldiers according to how they drank from the Jordan river - Judges 7/7 (he was to wise a general to ask his soldiers go thirsty into battle) - about Saul you find in 1.Samuel (David vs. Goliath in 1. Sam 17/4-48). There is no similar episode involving King Saul. The Quran here has wrong man and wrong time.

But why does an omniscient god - one who knows absolutely everything - need to test anyone?

042 2/252a: “These are all Signs of Allah - - -”. If they were signs, they in this case were signs of the Jewish god Yahweh, not of Allah. See 2/87.

The Quran is built on claims like this and on statements, “signs” and “proofs”, not one of them proved (as we said before: With the possible exception of some signs from the Bible which in case may prove Yahweh, not Allah). Plus it is built on a lot of psychology and knowledge about human nature. As for the never proved claims, signs, etc. there is an awful lot of them, and they are easy to find once you go looking for them.

Besides in this case: How can they be valid signs if the story is wrong?

Plus the always returning question: Who needs to rely invalid claims, statements, "signs", and Proofs"? The cheat and deceiver.

*043 2/253c: “- - - to Jesus- - - We (Allah*) gave Clear (Signs) - - -.” Hardly Allah in case. The god of Jesus was Yahweh. (Jesus simply had got few followers and been killed much earlier if he had preached about a known pagan god (al-Lah) from a neighboring pagan country - the religious situation in Israel at that time makes the Quran's claim here impossible.)

044 2/255a: "There is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". (Also see 6/106b and 25/18a below). But:

  1. Both according to the Quran and to the Bible the old Jewish god (Yahweh) exists.
  2. Both according to the Quran and to the Bible Yahweh has proved his existence and his power many times, included via Jesus - there (according to both books if one or both of them tells the truth on this point) is no doubt about his existence and his power.
  3. The Quran claims that Allah and Yahweh is the same god. But this is not true, as the teachings fundamentally are far too different, especially if you compare the Quran with NT and the New Covenant via Jesus - a covenant Muslims never are told about by their imams or mullahs (f.x. Luke 22/20). The same go for the underlying ethics and moral (parts of it is very twisted in the Quran compared to the most basic rule; "do onto others what you want others do onto you") and the stressing of the value of empathy (empathy hardly is to be found in the Quran, and non-existing towards victims and non-Muslims), etc., not to mention that this also go for the view on thieving (looting), lying (f.x. al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie), suppression, killing, etc. The only possible exception is if the god is strongly schizophrenic. (See separate chapter about this in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran". Demand proofs from the next Muslim telling you that Yahweh is the same god as Allah.
  4. The Quran tries to explain away the differences between the Bible and the Quran, and thus the differences in the teachings, by claiming - as normal for Muhammad without a single document or proof - that the Bible is falsified. But this is not true, as science long since has proved there is no falsification. May be some mistakes - f.x. in Genesis - but no falsification. What is even more convincing it the fact that also Islam has proved the same, and most strongly, by not being able to find one single documented falsification among all the tens of thousands relevant old manuscripts. (There exist some 300 copies or fragments of the Gospels older than 610 AD, 13ooo other manuscripts or fragments from other parts of the Bible and 32ooo other documents/fragments with quotes or references from the Bible from before 610 AD (before that there was no reason to falsify anything to expel Islamic teaching) - parts of this also older than 325 AD and council that year in Nicaea, during which some Muslims claim the falsification took place - a physical impossibility, as the manuscripts were spread on 3 continents. (The numbers of relevant manuscripts can vary some from one source to another, but around these ones.) All have exactly the same and invariable texts within minor variations normal for hand-copied documents, and not one shows any traces of being tampered with - falsified - in ways that modern science can find. And modern science is good at finding falsifications, as it is a frequent kind of crime. No scratching out of text, no other tries of removing old text, no putting in new words, no new words written with another kind of ink, no new words with another handwriting, no variety of the sizes of letters to make new text fit an erased space, etc. Islam also never even has tried to explain how it could be possible to make identical falsifications in 40-45ooo and more (likely a few hundred thousand at that time, as many must have disappeared over the many centuries) different manuscripts spread over the whole known world and wider - and how it was possible for Jews and Christians to agree on identical falsifications. Muslims often claim the falsifications were done at the mentioned meeting of bishops in Nicaea in 325 AD. But for one thing the agenda for that meeting is well known and nothing like this was on that agenda. For another ting a lot of manuscripts are older than 325 AD exist (f.x. the Qumran scrolls) - not one of them falsified or different from the present ones. And for a third: It is exactly as difficult to get bishops change the Bible, as it is to make ayatollahs change the Quran. (Muslims also claims that the OT was falsified when it "had to be rewritten". But for one thing far from all Jews were deported to Babylon (f.x. 2. Kings 25/12), and you bet the ones who remained took care of their holy scriptures - religion is a comfort in difficult times (science tells that some 25ooo were deported, whereas some 75ooo remained). And for another thing also the Jews in exile had managed to keep some copies of the scriptures. And for a third: Jews lived in many countries also at that time, and in each and every synagogue, there always was and is at least one copy of the scriptures - in addition to what was owned by members of the congregations (f.x. Ezra "was a teacher well versed in the Laws of Moses" = the Books of Moses (Ezra 7/6) - which meant they had the books). The OT simply never was rewritten - there never was a reason for that.) There simply never were any falsifications of any part of the Bible - as proved by science. But it is as said was even better proved by Islam: If there had existed one single falsification, Islam had found it and screamed about it. Nobody has ever heard such a scream. And if the - according to the Quran - good Muslim Jesus had discovered falsifications in the old books in the synagogues, when he went around teaching, such a prophet had been most clear about it. He spoke against new rules from the Pharisees, etc., making the old texts unnecessarily strict, but not one word about falsifications of the old texts - not one word about such falsifications in the Bible, and not in the Quran. Thus even the OT in case cannot have been falsified until after Jesus' death in 33 AD. And science knows ever so well that it was never falsified later. Islam will have to bring proofs for falsification of OT as well as of NT, and not only lose claims, if they want to be believed.
  5. OT in addition simply is proved not falsified by this combination of Jesus and the Qumran scrolls. Both the Bible and the Quran tells that Jesus was a very reliable person. He had strongly warned about it if the old scriptures had been falsified at his time. This means that if OT was falsified, it like said had had to be done after his death in 33 AD. But the Qumran scrolls prove that the OT never was falsified after they were written between 150 BC and 50 BC. This is an extra proof for that also OT never was falsified. (All this in addition to that Muhammad's claims about falsification of the Bible, never was anything but never proved claims - in a book so full of errors and worse, that it was from no god. And "claims without a proof may be dismissed without a proof". It also is clear that Muhammad lied some places in the Quran (50+ places?). He may have lied about this, too.
  6. As Yahweh clearly existed if the old books tell the truth, and as clearly was/is not the same god as Allah, and as Islam's "explanation" ("falsification") for the case is wrong, Islam here has a problem when claiming there only is one god. Even if we omit all other (claimed) gods, there still remains Yahweh, whose existence they have admitted, even though they wrongly mixes him up with Allah (f.x. the teachings alone tell this is not true - they are by far too different and too fundamentally different).
  7. This problem grows even more interesting when one remember that Yahweh has proved his existence and power many times if either the Bible or the Quran or both tell the truth on this point, whereas Allah has proved exactly nothing - there only are words and claims from a man with a very doubtful moral (even according to Muslim books, included the Quran - take away the glorious words and see what remains) behind the claims for Allah's existence and power.
  8. And: If there then exists one, but only one god - who is most likely to exist? - Yahweh or Allah?
  9. Also what is provably clear from the old books, is that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - not unless that god was strongly schizophrenic. The teachings, the moral codes, etc. are too different on too many and too central points.

045 2/255i: "For He (Allah*) is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory)". One thing is the question if he really exists - there never was the slightest proof or valid sign for him. But see 1/1a above and see if he really deserves glory - - - if he exists.

046 2/258c: "My (Abraham's*) Lord (here claimed to be Allah*) is He who giveth life and death." Variations of this interesting claim you meet several places in the Quran - interesting because Allah and Muhammad never were able to prove anything like this, whereas if the old books tell the truth, Yahweh proved it at least 9 times in the Bible (1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/35, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt. 27/52, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10 + Jesus) and at least one or two times in the Quran - if the books are reliable on this point. As for Jesus: As it is clear - if at least one of the book tells the truth about this - that the old Jewish god really had power over death, there is no real reason why Jesus could not be killed and resurrected, except that then he clearly was something Muhammad was not, and with connections Muhammad had not, and Muhammad thus impossibly could be the greatest of the prophets. Jesus, therefore, had to be "played down" to make him smaller than the claims about Muhammad.

047 2/260c: "Show me (Abraham*) how thou (Allah*) givest life to the dead". An interesting sentence, as Allah never - never - showed neither this nor anything else - Yahweh proved it if the old books tell the truth, but never Allah (except in borrowed legends outside the Quran).

048 3/2a: "There is no god but He (Allah*)". Well, what is for sure is that Allah is not the same god as Yahweh (if any of them exists) - the teachings are fundamentally too different. (The only possibility is if the god is strongly schizophrenic.) Also see 2/225a above and 6/106b and 25/18a below. Another thing which is for sure, is that the existence of Allah was and is never proved. And a third: The only basis for the claims about Allah, is the word of a man who would be accepted by no court in any real democracy as a reliable witness, as he believed in the use of lies (al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie, Kitman - the lawful half-truth, etc.), deception and even the breaking of words and oaths, but pay expiation if necessary (2/225a above, 5/89a+b, 16/91e, 66/2a below). (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

Both the Bible and the Quran states that the old Jewish and Christian god existed, even though the Quran wrongly mixes him up with Allah (the question about other gods - f.x. the Hindu ones - we omit here). Thus there are at least two - - - if Allah exists.

049 3/3l: "- - - He (Allah*) sent down the Law (of Moses) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible which claims it was sent down by Yahweh - a god very different from Allah, especially as you find him in NT.

###050 3/3m: "- - - He (Allah*) sent down - - - the Gospel (of Jesus) - - -." This is one of the really bad ones, as it is historically clear that the Gospels (there were/are 4, not 1 like Muhammad seems to have believed) were not sent down, but written by humans here on Earth. Most Muslims try to get out of the syrup by claiming they are speaking of an older one - one so old that even Jesus could read it as a child. Which shows they do not even know what the Gospels are: They are the history of Jesus' life, death, resurrection, and ascension to Heaven, and consequently could not be written until after all this had happened - actually the oldest one was written some 25-30 years after his death (= around 60 AD). Now, science says there may have existed an older one, but for very obvious reasons it cannot have been much older, not to mention old enough for Jesus to have read, and even more so read it as a child - not unless Islam claims full predestination, and then the free will of man disappears. This mistake simply is caused by the fact that Muhammad did not know the Bible - only legends, etc., and obviously was not aware of what the Gospels really are. And an older Gospel as source for 3 of the present ones, in case makes them even more reliable - an older, written source for them. (The other possible explanation for why 3 of the gospels are very similar, is that the oldest was used as a model for the 2 younger ones - a possibility Muslims never mention.)

051 3/38b: "O My (Zakariyya's*) Lord (Allah*)! Grant onto me from Thee a progeny that is pure: for Thou art He that heareth prayer!" Not from the Bible, though it is said there that he prayed for a child/son.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem which really can have only one valid solutions, can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. F.x. in cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. Islam teaches differently. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1): Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. Islam is teaching differently. 2): The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other. Islam is teaching differently.)

Another fact: Today it is easy by means of statistical methods to check if prayers have any effect. (Let f.x. 1ooo persons each pray for one among 1ooo unknown persons sick or in other ways in need. compare the result after some time with a similar group of 1ooo who has not been prayed for, and see if there is a difference. If there is a positive difference, this would be a strong indication or perhaps even a proof for something - a proof Islam strongly and dearly needs, as they have not any proof for even a single of its central claims. But it has not even tried to make such a test. Why?)

052 3/40aa: "O my (Zakariyya's*) Lord (claimed to be Allah*)!". Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which tells that Zakariyya's god was Yahweh.

053 3/40b: "O my (Zakariyya's*) Lord (claimed to be Allah*)! How shall I have a son, seeing I am very old, and my wife is barren?" One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% - like the Quran claims many places. If man has free will - even partly only - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, in spite of Islam's claims. See 2/51b and 3/24a above.

054 3/41b: "O my (Zakariyya's*) Lord (claimed to be Allah*)! Give me a Sign!". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% - like the Quran claims many places. If man has free will - even partly only - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, in spite of Islam's claims. See 2/51b and 3/24a above. Also: Zakariyya served in the temple in Jerusalem. ONLY servants of Yahweh served there - a historical fact.

055 3/45ea: "- - - (Jesus*), held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah". According to history there existed no god similar to Allah and no religion similar to Islam in what is now the Middle East and not anywhere else known in the Roman Empire or the rest of the world around or any time before or centuries after the time of Jesus - not until after 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission do science find anything similar to Islam or the Quran. And according to the - proved by science and Islam not falsified - Bible and to history the god of Jesus was Yahweh, not Allah. Thus according to these two facts, he should be nearest to Yahweh.

Remember here that in the Roman Empire we now are in times of written history - for this area this is sure information.

056 3/49b: “I (Jesus*) have come to you (humans*), with a Sign form your Lord (the god - in the Quran claimed to be Allah, in the Bible and according to history his god was Yahweh*), in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and it becomes a bird by Allah’s leave”. (This tale is “borrowed” from one of the apocryphal (= made up religious fairy tales*) so-called “Child Gospels”, in this case the so-called Egyptian one, but also mentioned in the so-called Arab one from Syria around 500 AD, and in the Gnostic apocryphal (made up) Thomas’ Child Gospel - it is not from the Bible*),

Islam is aware of that this is from an apocryphal story - (f.x. Yusuf Ali: "The meaning of the Holy Quran", comment 390: "The miracle of the clay birds is found in some of the apocryphal Gospels".) - but never mention the fact that as the stories are apocryphal they normally are fakes, to their congregations, and seldom inform their readers that these are made up stories. A kind of dishonesty you meet too often in Islam. All are totally invalid as a proof for Allah, as long as:

  1. It is not proved that Allah really did this - and stories from fairy tales need solid proofs. Or:
  2. It is not proved that Allah and Yahweh really is the same god - which only Muslims claim to believe, and which they have never produced the slightest proof for - - - in addition to that the two gods (?) have so different teachings that it is impossible they can be the same one (Muslims explain this with that the Bible is falsified, but any professor of history would deem the Bible far more likely to be true - and for solid reasons - than the Quran (though also the Bible may have mistakes). Science also has proved that the Bible is not falsified - there as said may be mistakes, but no falsifications compared to the old texts. And Islam has proved it even more by not finding any proof for falsifications in 1400 years. If they had found one, they had SCREAMED about it - and there has been no such scream.

The Gnostic and other stories, tales, “gospels”, and apocryphals were made up by semi-Christian or sometimes semi-Jewish sects to fit their special points of view on how a god should be. The sects were quite widespread once upon a time. Muslims frequently use these and other made up tales to try to “prove” their statements. Not to mention how often one meets Muslim references to the so called Gospel of Barnabas - - - perhaps made up at the Caliphs Muslim court in Baghdad (in the 1400 century?), or one of the several Muslim falsifications from older (ca. 800 - 900 AD) Muslim dominated Spain.

A few of the apocryphals were close enough to the Bible to be read also by Christians (and from OT also by Jews) as morally good stories, even though not all "facts" were correct. The rest were more or less pure fairy tales and/or propaganda for semi-Christian (or semi-Jewish) sects. As for the Quran one may call it such an apocryphal story, but one in case has to remember that it in case is a very apocryphal one.

AND IT IS A STRANGE (?) AND PERHAPS TELLING FACT IN THIS CONNECTION THAT THE QURAN OFTEN AGREES WITH MADE UP STORIES FROM APOCRYPHAL BOOKS AND STORIES, LEGENDS, FAIRY TALES, AND OTHER TALES WELL KNOWN IN ARABIA AT THE TIME OF MUHAMMAD, INSTEAD OF THE MAY BE TRUE ONES IN THE BIBLE, AND NOT LESS PECULIAR THAT IT THEN EXPLAINS THAT THE REASON FOR THE DIVERGENCES, IS THAT THE BIBLE IS FALSIFIED. Muslims' use of apocryphal and often known to be made up stories as arguments in reality proves they have few if any real arguments - if they had, there was no need for using made up ones.

(We may add that “Gospel” means “good news” or “glad news” or “glad tidings”. You meet the word used like that in some Bibles and other literature, but then it normally is written “gospel” not “Gospel”.)

One more point: A miracle like this never had been forgotten and left out from the NT if it had been real, especially as there are few stories from his childhood and this had filled in a blank space. Also see 3/46a above.

Remember here that science - and Islam - strongly has proved that the god of the Jews - and thus of Jesus - at the time of Jesus, was Yahweh, and that no god like Allah, no religion like Islam, and no book like the Quran existed in the entire Roman Empire or anywhere else at that time. Jesus' power thus came from Yahweh, not from Allah.

###057 3/50e: (Jesus said:) "So fear Allah and obey me". This is one of Muhammad's slogans, and then of course it was good policy to claim older prophets had said the same. But what Jesus said, was "follow me", which is something very different from "obey me" - deep down so different that it is one of the proofs for that Allah - especially as you meet him in the surahs from Medina, and thus in the little abrogated parts of the Quran - is not the same god as Yahweh. Definitely not.

**058 3/51a: (Jesus said*): “It is Allah who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him”. Contradicted by the Bible, to say the least of it - in the Bible Jesus' connection was to Yahweh (but then the Quran wrongly mixes Yahweh and Allah, even though the fundamentals of the teachings are too different for such a claim to be true). But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

**059 3/51b: (Jesus said*): “It is Allah who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him”. This must be written/told by someone with no knowledge of Israel at the time of Jesus. It was one of the periods when the Jewish religion was strong and the religious establishment powerful. Further the name of the (Muslim) god was not Allah until after Muhammad changed his name slightly - it was al-Lah (which means “the god” - not “god”, but “the god”. Muslim missionaries in the west today, often use the word God instead of Allah, because then a number of the differences between Yahweh (our god) and Allah are more difficult to see. They say that Allah means God, but strictly speaking “al-Lah” = “the god“). The Jews of that time were a traveling people, and they knew Arabia and the polytheistic religion there.

  1. If Jesus had preached that people should pray to a known polytheistic god from another country (and remember that at that time gods in addition were at least to a degree thought to take care mostly of their own country or tribe or whatever) - call him al-Lah or the older Il - he had got very few followers.
  2. If Jesus had preached about al-Lah - a known polytheistic foreign god - the Jewish religious establishment had had him killed years before for heresy, disrespect for Yahweh and things like that.

This statement is made up by someone not knowing the religious and political situation in Israel around 30 AD (but the purpose for making it up is very obvious). It is very clear from history facts that the Jewish god at that time was Yahweh, and that around the year 30 AD it was a time where the religion had a strong position and strong power in Israel.

060 3/55d: "- - - then shall ye (followers of Jesus*) all return unto me (Allah*) - - -". According to the Bible they will return unto Yahweh, not unto Allah - 2 very different gods in spite of the Quran's claims (especially like you meet Yahweh in NT.

061 3/59a: “The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam - - -”. That is to say in “Quran-speak”: "He was a prophet, but for that an ordinary human". Well, Jesus called God/Yahweh “father”, which Adam could not - not in the same way at least. Also Adam is no prophet in the Bible, only in the Quran (A real prophet hardly had acted like Adam). And according to science, Adam never existed - man developed from earlier primates.

*062 3/59b: “He (Allah*) created him (Adam (and Jesus)*) from dust, - - -”. The Quran tells about many ways man was created - 13 different if you are strict, 5 - 7 if you are less strict. Only 1 can be true, as man (Adam) was created only once. Actually according to science all of them are wrong, as man developed from earlier primates.

Some Muslims take pride in that archaeologists has found that the human race has passed through so-called bottlenecks, and that all now may have one “mother” in common - the archaeological Eve - and one common “father” - the less known archaeological Adam. "Hurray! Here is the PROOF!", you may hear - "here is Eve and Adam!". What not a single of them has ever mentioned as far as we have heard, is the fact that this “Eve” lived some 160ooo to 200ooo (195ooo?) years ago, whereas the corresponding “Adam” lived much later - may be as late as 60ooo - 70ooo (64ooo?) years ago, Eve in Africa, Adam most likely in Asia (perhaps near the Caspian Sea). Not a couple exactly! (And once more; actually the Adam from the Bible and the Quran most likely never existed - man developed from a primate, he was not created into sudden existence). See also 6/2b below.

Another point: The Quran never tells if Islam also was taught to our - Homo Sapiens' - sister humans, the Neanderthals and the Denisovans. Also they were humans, and so human that they to a small degree intermarried and got children together with "us" - science finds traces of their DNA in our DNA.

#####063 3/59c: (Allah said:) "'Be' and he (Adam/Jesus*) was". This is in strict contradiction to the verse claiming the god could not have a son, because he had no woman. But according to this and other points Allah could say "Be a son" and Jesus was. (In addition to that in the really old Hebrew religion there may have been a female god - Yahweh's Amat (source New Scientist and others).

064 3/64d: “- - - that we (Muslims and Jews/Christians*) worship none but Allah (= Yahweh and Allah are claimed to be the same god*)”. Wrong. This is not possible as the fundamental differences between the Quran and the Bible/NT are too big and too many – not unless the god is schizophrenic. Only Muslims say this – and they will have to bring strong proofs if they want to be believed by non-Muslims.

Which raises the question: Are Muhammad and his Arabs really descendants from Abraham (and thus earlier of the same religion)? At least they in case only are quarter breeds, as Ishmael’s mother, Hagar, was a slave from Egypt (1. Mos. 16/1), and also his wife (only one is mentioned) was from Egypt (also according to the Bible, written and unabridged since more than 1000 years before Muhammad – 1. Mos.21/20). Well, worse than that: Modern DNA analysis has showed that the pure Arab does not exist. Arabia is on a crossroad – caravans and merchants have passed through - - - and left babies behind now and then (remember that before Muhammad in Arabia sex and alcohol were “the two delightful things”). And Arab caravans and traders roamed wide – and now and then brought back brides from abroad. And finally the perhaps main reason for the diluted blood: The slaves. Literally millions of slaves – some 2/3 of them women – have through the times been brought to Arabia, both before and after Muhammad. And the women of the harems – do you think they were permitted to demand condoms? It is impossible to say there are not traces of DNA from Abraham in Arabs – perhaps via Jewish slave women? But any scientist will say that the chances for finding much more DNA from Abraham (if he ever existed) in Jews than in Arabs are big, because the Jews mostly have been intermarrying because of the excluding religion. Arabs? Diluted blood and hardly any traces of Abraham - none if the Bible tells the truth when it tells that Ishmael settled near the border of Egypt (1. Mos. 25/18 - and there was no reason for him who wrote 1. Mos. not to tell the truth).

And here we have not even mentioned that Arabia was settled thousands of years before Abraham. Even if he had been a forefather, he had been only one among thousands and tens of thousands of forefathers - a tiny drop of an Arab's blood; not even a milliliter, but only a few micro-liters of the 5 liters of blood in a man. A few micro-liters compared with a deciliter or two of f.x. Negro blood or European blood.

All this on top of that the Arabs never were a coherent tribe from the beginning. They originally were a mixture of people from all around who drifted into the empty area, when the land was settled some thousands of years ago - first the coastal areas, and later the interior.

###############Also modern DNA tells that Arabs are a mixed race and with no common forefather.

Another relevant fact: According to history, there nowhere in the world, and definitely nowhere in the Roman Empire are found any traces from a religion like Islam, a god like Allah, or a book similar to the Quran older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission - not one. (For a comparison there are found some 45ooo scriptures or fragment from or relevant to the Bible + many other traces from Jewish and Christian religion.) Explanation?

065 3/67d: "- - - he (Abraham*) joined no gods with Allah". Well, according to the Bible Abraham's god was not Allah but Yahweh.

066 3/80c: "Would he (a prophet - here indicated Jesus*) bid you unbelief after ye have bowed your will (to Allah in Islam)?" To say the least of it: A strong contradiction to the Bible - Jesus asked everyone to believe in Yahweh, not in al-Lah/Allah (called only Allah by Muhammad).

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##067 3/81a: "Behold, Allah took the Covenant of the Prophets, saying:' - - - then comes to you a Messenger (Muhammad*) confirming what is with you (= the scriptures the prophets had and their teachings*); you must believe in him and rendering him help'". There is nothing like this in the entire Bible. Besides: How could the prophets help Muhammad? - they were all dead hundreds of years before Muhammad was even born - many of them a thousand years and more before.

A curiosum is that there nowhere in the Quran is told where and when Allah made a covenant with Muhammad or with the Muslims. There only is the matter-of-fact tone claim that there is one.

Another curiosum: Jesus according to the proved not falsified Bible NEVER gave any help to Muhammad, NEVER said anything about Muhammad, NEVER said anything which could help Muhammad, NEVER mentioned a god of war like Allah, NEVER mentioned a religion of war and suppression and blood like Islam, NEVER even touched the hateful, suppressing, bloody, warlike, and not least dishonest moral code like the one in the Quran, NEVER expressed any wish for a "hajj" to Mecca even though all Muslims should go there at least once, NEVER even mentioned neither Mecca nor the Kabah - the most holy place on Earth according to Islam. Morally there are oceans between Yahweh and Allah, and between Jesus and Muhammad - oceans and light-years.

Similar go for all the old Jewish prophets.

###To give you a complicated, but very clear message: The only place in the Bible where Jesus mentions Muhammad, is in the "very reliable" Quran and in the even more reliable the Hadiths. (There are Muslims who drop the Hadiths because they are too unreliable.)

Similar go for all the old Jewish prophets - included Moses.

Another fact concerning all Jewish prophets: According to the Bible (and for at least Jesus also according to history) their god was Yahweh, not Allah.

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068 3/95e: "- - - the religion of Abraham - - -". Islam claims to be the religion of Abraham - - - but have never documented anything. And to say the least of it: It is contradicting the Bible, which talks about another god; Yahweh. And we remind you that both science and even stronger Islam have proved that the Bible is not falsified. In some 13ooo manuscripts and fragments from the Bible + some 32ooo other relevant old documents from before 610 AD not one proved falsification is found, not even by Islam. Also see 3/93a above.

A curious fact: From the Bible one has found some 45ooo relevant scriptures and fragments older than 610 AD, whereas from the Quran not one single that old, even though according to the Quran and Islam, the Quran was wider spread (the entire world) than the Bible. Explanation?

069 3/95g: "- - - (Abraham was*) sane in faith - - -". Faith in the Quran means Islam. So what is said here is that Abraham was a good Muslim (the same is said many other places in the Quran - but contradicted by the Bible, which tells Abraham's god was Yahweh, not Allah). Believe it whoever wants. But see 3/93a and 3/95d above.

IT ALSO IS WORTH MENTIONING THAT ABRAHAM F.X. NEVER WENT TO WAR FOR A RELIGIOUS REASON, NEITHER ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, NOR ACCORDING TO THE QURAN. HE CANNOT HAVE BEEN A GOOD MUSLIM.

Abraham also married his (half) sister, Sarah, something which is strictly forbidden in Islam. He cannot have been a good Muslim.

070 3/99g: “(Jews and Christians*) ye were yourselves witnesses (to Allah’s covenant)”. Wrong. They were witnesses to Yahweh’s covenant(s). Allah is not the same god as Yahweh, unless the god is seriously schizophrenic, as the teachings fundamentally are too different. If Islam still insists on the opposite, they will have to bring proofs, not only the old and still not documented loose claims.

071 3/114a: "- - - they (Jews and Christians*) believe in Allah". No comment necessary. (Even in the cases where they have used the name Allah instead of God or Yahweh (it has been done some times through history), they definitely have not believed in the Islamic Allah).

072 3/187a: "And remember Allah (Yahweh*) took a Covenant from the People of the Book (= Jews and Christians*) - - -". According to the Bible it was Yahweh who did this - a different god with a very different teaching, especially after "the new covenant" (f.x. Luke 22/20) took place.

073 3/187b: "And remember Allah (Yahweh*) took a Covenant from the People of the Book (= Jews and Christians*) - - -". A time anomaly - see 4/13d below.

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996 3/187c: "And remember Allah took a Covenant from the People of the Book (= Jews and Christians mainly*), - - - but they threw it away - - -".

Yahweh according to the Bible took a covenant with the Jews. It was sometimes respected, sometimes mistreated and broken and fell into disuse - - - and renewed time and again. What the Quran and Islam never mention, is that Yahweh never terminated it (well, Islam claims it was terminated "de facto" by the Jews' breaking and mistreating it, but not even the Quran says that the god told he terminated it). As not even the Quran claims the covenant was a fiction, at least formally it thus still was valued at the time of Muhammad, and even today.

Yahweh took a "new covenant" with the followers of Jesus, formalized via Jesus during "the Last Supper" (Luke 22/20 and a number of other places) and more or less the same can be said about this one, but with the addition that there always were many honest believers in this covenant never breaking it, so that there never was a reason for terminating it - omitting bad persons from it, yes, terminating it, no. The new covenant is never mentioned by Muslims. (Most Muslims have never even heard about it, even though their scholars know about it.)

074 3/187d: "And remember Allah (Yahweh*) took a Covenant from the People of the Book (= Jews and Christians*), - - - but they threw it away - - -".

Many Muslims claim this in reality is about the claimed mentioning of Muhammad in the Bible. But so what, as there is no such mentioning? It is very obvious that there is no clear mentioning of Muhammad there. Then Muslims make a number of claims about hidden references, but the cherry-picking of words and the twisting of meanings are too obvious and too wrong. See the chapter about the claims about Muhammad in the Bible in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" or in 7/157e below.

075 3/199h: "For them (strongly believing Jews and Christians*) is a reward with their Lord, and Allah is swift in account". Here the Quran once more wrongly indicates that Yahweh and Allah is the same god, a claim which obviously is wrong as the teachings of those two too often and too fundamentally are too different.

But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

*076 4/74a: “Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter”. If you are willing to exchange your life here on Earth for a future life in Paradise, you should be permitted to - and qualified to - wage war for Allah. (Only let us hope you are not cheated. If something is wrong in the Quran - and at least a huge number of facts and much of the logic are wrong, etc. - you may be in for quite a surprise if there is a next life. Not to mention what a rude awakening you will have if Islam is a dreamed-up religion, and there is another religion which is true. But in the meantime Muslim leaders have a cheap source for power, warriors and terrorists).

One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, not to mention Jesus not in the same religion as Muhammad - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

077 4/87a: "There is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". See 2/255a above and 6/106b and 25/18a below - and for that case 2/165c above.

078 4/171s: “- - - (far Exalted is He (Allah*)) above having a son”. If the Quran here talks only about Allah, that may be correct. But if it talks about an Allah identical to Yahweh, we have to remind Muslims of the fact that Jesus many times and in front of many witnesses called Yahweh his father – the word “father” as a statement of the relationship between Jesus and Yahweh is used at least 204 times in the NT according to our latest leafing through it, and the word “son” at least 89 times, many of those times by Jesus himself. And even the Quran agrees to that Jesus was reliable. And we remind you that in spite of what Islam and the Quran claim - without any documentation - about falsifications of the Bible, science clearly has documented that those never proved claims are not correct. Islam has given even stronger proofs for this, by being unable to find one single proved falsification in all the literally tens of thousands of relevant old manuscripts and fragments.

Besides; what do humans know about what a god wishes? - f.x. of some company?

079 4/125f: "- - - the way of Abraham the true of faith - - -". If the Quran is not a made up book. But there are every indication for that there is no connection between Abraham/Ishmael and Arabia, and no connection between Abraham and Islam. It at least is clear that the Quran with all its errors is not from a god.

Also science says that "there is no indication for that Abraham ever visited Arabia".

080 4/125g: "For Allah did take Abraham for a friend". Often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere - and according to the Bible it was Yahweh who was Abraham's friend - - - if Abraham ever existed.

081 4/131e: “- - - We (Allah*) have directed the People of the Book before you (Muslims*) - - -.” Wrong. The "People of the Book" believe in Yahweh, and Allah and Yahweh are not the same god – not unless the god is seriously ill mentally – the teachings are too different and Islam also never has been able to do anything but claiming that it is the same god – never a proof or any kind of documentation. They only show you to a book with very many mistakes, (told by a very doubtful man who also never was able to prove anything) and wrongly claim – without documentation also here – that this is a proof. After all a proof is "one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". The "signs" and "proofs" in the Quran all are invalid, perhaps with the exception "borrowed" from the Bible, and which in case prove Yahweh - mostly because they do not build on proved facts, only on claims or on nothing.

082 4/131f: “- - - We (Allah*) have directed the People of the Book before you (Muslims*) - - - to fear Allah.” Wrong - the "People of the Book" were, rightly or wrongly, directed to fear Yahweh. This also according to historical facts.

083 4/153d: "- - - they (the Jews*) said (to Moses*): 'Show us Allah (Yahweh*) in public'". A strong contradiction to the Bible - and something there was no reason for falsifying: According to the Bible the Jews did not ask Moses to show them the god. It was Yahweh who for some reason wanted them to see him. (1. Mos. 19/3-24).

084 4/153e: "- - - they (the people of Moses*) said: "Show us Allah (Yahweh*) in public". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100%, like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

  1. When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.
  2. The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.
  3. The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims, even though this means to falsify the Quran's words) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

Remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

085 4/153f: "- - - they (the people of Moses*) said: "Show us Allah in public". A time anomaly - see 4/13d above.

086 4/154a: "And for their (the Jews') Covenant We (the god/Allah*) raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai) - - -". The god - in the Quran claimed to be Allah - held the mountain above them (there is an old legend saying so, from which Muhammad got this idea), but our Muslim sources refrain from this way of understanding the words - too unbelievable - without really giving any other explanation.

087 4/154b: "And for their (the Jews') Covenant We (the god/Allah*) raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai) - - -". This is not from the Bible, but from a legend/fairy tale.

088 4/157f: "We killed Christ Jesus - - - the Messenger of Allah - - -". Wrong. For one thing not even his worst enemies claimed Jesus was a prophet of Allah (or al-Lah) - the pagan god al-Lah "lived" in the not too distant Arabia, and not one soul in Jerusalem thought about al-Lah there and then. But neither did they call him a prophet or messenger of Yahweh - the reason why they killed him was just that it was claimed, and many believed, he was a false prophet claiming to be a prophet for Yahweh, directly opposing of what the Quran here tells they said.

089 4/163c: "- - - Noah and the Messengers after him - - -". Muhammad claimed there to all times and all places had been messengers/prophets from Allah teaching Islam - included the Biblical prophets and other Biblical persons which all are claimed to have been good Muslims. Hadiths mention the number 124ooo (= 620 at any time for 5ooo years or 12-15 for 160-200ooo years. No traces from them found. Believe it if you can.) through the times. Neither science nor Islam has been able to find a single documented trace of Islam older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission (curious, as from the Mosaic and the Christian religions there literally are tens of thousands traces - why Nothing from the claimed old and widely spread Islam?). Also neither science nor Islam has ever found a trace of relevant messengers/prophets. (Just to mention it: As both science and Islam have proved beyond any reasonable and unreasonable doubt that the Bible is not falsified - neither has found one single documented falsification among the some 45ooo relevant scriptures and fragments - it is clear that the Biblical prophets are irrelevant here, as they believed in Yahweh, the old originally Jewish god who in spite of strong, but as normal for Muslims never documented claims, is not identical to Allah, as the teachings and the fundamental elements of the religions are too different.)

######An interesting mathematical fact: If we operate with a normal religious time frame, Adam lived something like 5ooo years before the claimed last prophet, Muhammad. If we say that Hadiths' number 124ooo (= 620 at any time for 5ooo years or 12-15 for 160-200ooo years. No traces from them found. Believe it if you can.) had been correct, and that each of them worked for 25 years, there all the time from Adam till Muhammad should be on average 620 active prophets working for Allah around the world (more than 3 in every country during all those thousands of years). None of them (except the old Jewish ones - really working for Yahweh) left one single trace anywhere on the entire Earth. Even if you reckon the entire age of Homo Sapiens - 160ooo-200ooo years - there in case during all these eons have been 15-20 prophets working all the time. But no trace from them or a religion like Islam, a god like Allah - or a book like the Quran.

Believe it if you are able to.

090 4/163e: "- - - We (Allah*) sent it (messages by inspiration*) to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the (12 Jewish*) Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and to Solomon - - -". As Muhammad claimed he received his verses from Allah by inspiration, it was essential to "prove" that this was a normal way for prophets to receive information from the god. And NB: He used these claimed Muslim prophets as proofs for that "inspiration" was a normal way of communication. The word "inspiration" is not used anywhere in the Bible in such connections. Also it is nowhere in the Bible mentioned that Ishmael had a close enough connection to Yahweh to be a prophet.

091 4/163g: “- - - to David We (Allah*) gave the Psalms”. Wrong: According to science they are some centuries younger than King David, at least most of them. (And besides – Allah hardly was involved. If there was a god, it was Yahweh).

092 4/164a: "- - - and to Moses Allah spoke direct - - -". Omitting the fact that the Quran wrongly mixes Yahweh and Allah, and that according to the Bible it was Yahweh who spoke to Moses, Yahweh also spoke directly to others - f.x. Samuel (1. Sam. 3/4-14) and Jesus. (Muhammad knew very little about the Jewish prophets, but any god had known.)

093 4/164b: "- - - and to Moses Allah spoke direct - - -". The Bible contradicts this and says it was Yahweh who spoke to Moses.

094 4/171h: “Christ Jesus was - - - a Messenger of Allah - - -”. Islam will have to prove this, as he definitely was no messenger of Allah but for Yahweh in case - for explanations about this see 3/51a above.

095 4/171i: “Christ Jesus was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah - - -”. Muhammad could not afford that Jesus was anything more than a normal prophet - in that case he himself impossible could be the greatest.

#096 4/171k: "- - - a Spirit proceeding from Him (Allah*) - - -". One of the few references in the Quran to the Holy Spirit.

#097 4/171l: "- - - a Spirit proceeding from Him (Allah*) - - -". A contradiction to the Bible - in the Bible the Holy Spirit belongs to Yahweh.

098 4/171s: “- - - (far Exalted is He (Allah*)) above having a son”. If the Quran here talks only about Allah, that may be correct. But if it talks about an Allah identical to Yahweh, we have to remind Muslims of the fact that Jesus many times and in front of many witnesses called Yahweh his father – the word “father” as a statement of the relationship between Jesus and Yahweh is used at least 204 times in the NT according to our latest leafing through it, and the word “son” at least 89 times, many of those times by Jesus himself. And even the Quran agrees to that Jesus was reliable. We also remind you that in spite of what Islam and the Quran claim - without any documentation - about falsifications of the Bible, science clearly has documented that those never proved claims are not correct. Islam has given even stronger proofs for this by being unable to find one single proved falsification in all the literally tens of thousands of relevant old manuscripts or fragments.

Besides; what do humans know about what a god wishes? - f.x. about some company?

099 4/172a: “Christ disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah.” In 3/51a is implicated in the explanation why this is wrong. The only possible exception is if Yahweh and Allah really were the same god. But only Islam states that, and the teachings of Yahweh (especially in NT and the New Covenant – f.x. Luke 22/20) are so different at essential points from the teachings of Allah, that they cannot be the same god unless he is mentally ill (schizophrenic). Islam will in case have to prove what they say, not only to claim it.

100 4/172b: “Christ disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah.” Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which says Jesus' god was Yahweh. It also is totally contradicted by the science of history, which flatly says there was no god like Allah and no religion similar to Islam in what is now Israel or anywhere else in the Roman Empire (we are now deep inside the times of written history in those areas) or anywhere else in the world. There is no kind of even an indication for a god like Allah, a religion like Islam, or a book similar to the Quran neither in the Bible nor anywhere else in the entire world, older than 610 AD - a historical fact. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

101 4/173g: "- - - nor will they find , beside Allah, any to protect or help them". Well, if they are Jews or Christians may be there is Yahweh.

102 5/12a: “Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel - - -.” Wrong - it is a historical fact that the god of the Jews was Yahweh, not Allah - 2 very different gods. See 4/159a. The covenant was with Yahweh, not with Allah. (As the two teachings basically are very different, the two gods cannot have been just two names for the same god like the Quran claims - they were too different (if one or both existed) if the god was not a mentally ill one.)

103 5/12c: "- - - We (Allah*) appointed twelve captains among them - - -". Well, Yahweh in one case said that the tribe leaders should lead. But the splitting in 12 tribes was not built on this, but on the 12 sons of Jacob (or to be more exact: Levi's descendants became priests and were split on the other tribes in a way not reckoned as a separate tribe in some connections - though kept apart an counted separately mostly. Then remained 11 of Jacob's sons. But the descendants of Joseph were split in 2 tribes, as his two sons Ephraim and Manasseh each founded a tribe (called half-tribes) = 12 tribes all together if one wants to count this way.) Though often one counted Levi as one and Joseph as one tribe.

104 5/12d: "I (Allah*) am with you (the Jews*) - - -". The Bible claims it was Yahweh who was with them.

105 5/17a: "In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ - - -." No Christian - not one single one - says that Allah (or Yahweh) = Jesus. Yahweh and Jesus are separate, but closely connected only. To use an Irish picture: Together with the Spirit they make up the 3 parts of a clover leaf. As for the Trinity, though, Islam may be right, as this is not clearly a part of the Bible (though Jesus said: "My Father (Yahweh/God) and I are one" - may be figuratively meant). But no Christian says Yahweh/God = Jesus.

A picture may be: Yahweh = the god. Jesus = a co-worker and/or friend and/or crown prince. The Holy Spirit = the messenger - an errand boy and helper. Or Yahweh = king, Jesus = prince (royal, but not king), the Holy Spirit = the chief ambassador.

*106 5/17b: “In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ (= put another god by Allah’s side – the ultimate and unforgivable sin according to 4/48 and 4/116*)". No Christian says that Jesus is Allah or the other way around. Neither do they say that Jesus is Yahweh. Also Muhammad never understood the trinity dogma of the Christians. (He believed the trinity consists of Yahweh, Jesus and Mary!!!). But if one looks only at that dogma, Islam may be right that it is not correct - may be. It is only a dogma decided on by humans after much discussion; it is not part of the Bible. (This dogma is from the 4. century, and it got its present form from the so-called Cappadocian Fathers (Gregory of Nyassa (332-395), Basil the Great (320-79), Gregory of Nazeanzus (329-389)). The nearest you come in the Bible, is that Jesus said that he and his father, Yahweh, were one.) Also see 5/17a and 5/73b. But no-one in his right mind and with some knowledge about the Bible, would ever believe Mary was part of the trinity. Any even baby god had known.

107 5/17f: "Who then hath the least power against Allah - - -". Many if Allah is a fiction. Perhaps f.x. Yahweh if not.

108 5/17i "- - - to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and earth - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says this belongs to Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

*109 5/18a: “(Both) the Jews and the Christians say: ‘We are sons of Allah, and (we are*) His beloved’”. Neither Jews nor Christians say they are real sons - or daughters - of Yahweh (not of Allah) (though they often figuratively - but only figuratively - refer to Yahweh as the “Father in Heaven” or humans as "Children of God".)

110 5/20a: Moses talked about Allah. Especially as it is clear Yahweh and Allah cannot be the same god, and as all the really old manuscripts mention Yahweh, it is highly unlikely Moses mentioned Allah - not to say it stronger. Also a contradiction to the Bible, which tells he talked about Yahweh.

**111 5/20b: “Remember Moses said to his people: - - - Allah - - - made you kings”. This is the correct literal meaning of the Arab text, but it is historically wrong. The first Jewish kings were Saul (Talut in the Quran) and then David some 200 - 300 years after Moses (around 1000 BC whereas Moses - if he was a real person - lived around 1300 BC (perhaps ca. 1315 to ca. 1195 BC). Any - even minor - god had known this. We have heard Muslims explain that this is not what the Quran means, but that Allah made all Jews like kings. But anyone who knows a little about Jewish history and about Jews before and now, knows very well that most Jews never were or are or behave(d) like kings. It is an obvious “explanation”. To circumvent and hide the mistake you find this translation in “The Message of the Quran: “- - - and (Allah*) made you your own masters - - -.” Honesty in religion? – al-Taqiyya? - - - a language “clear and easy to understand”?

Any omniscient god knows the full history of the Jews, Muhammad did not - this is clear many places in the Quran - and believed the Jews had had kings even before Moses. Then who made the Quran?

112 5/21a: “- - - the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you (Moses and his Jews*) - - -“. Allah or Yahweh? (See also 3/51 above).

113 5/23a: “- - - two (of Moses’ Jews*) on whom Allah hath - - -“. Allah or Yahweh? See also 3/51 above.

114 5/23f: “- - - but on Allah put your (Jews*) trust if you have faith”. It is highly unlikely Jews at the time of Moses told their fellow Jews to trust Allah, as the name of the god of the Jews was Yahweh (and besides the name Allah was introduced by Mohammad only some 2000 years later (as a substitute for al-Lah). Actually Muhammad often uses the name Allah where it should have been Yahweh. The switching of names is so obvious, that mostly we do not comment on it.) Contradicted by the Bible. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

115 5/28c: "- - - I (Cain*) do fear Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says his god was Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

116 5/44a: "It was We (Allah*) who revealed the Law (to Moses) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible which says it was from Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

117 5/44d: "- - - the (Jewish*) Prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's Will - - -". You can be pretty sure it was to Yahweh's will. Muslims claim the two gods, Allah and Yahweh, were the same one, but the fundamental elements in Islam and in the Mosaic religion, not to mention in Christianity are too different - it is not possible it is the same god (unless he is seriously mentally ill), and not possible that f.x. Jesus and Muhammad were in the same line of prophets - the teachings were too different (and the only "explanation" offered by Islam - falsified Bible - is proved wrong by science and even more so by Islam).

Also as far back as science are able to trace history, the god of the Jews was Yahweh. As for Christians, the same goes all the way back to the start of the religion. (the first cuneiform written scriptures in those areas reaches back to 1ooo-12oo BC and the hieroglyphs in Egypt even further back. They only give glimpses of the life of those times, but enough to that we get a picture of the religions, and there is nothing like Allah, like Islam, or like the Quran. And this grows more detailed and reliable after the raise of the Roman Empire - still nothing like Allah, nothing like Islam, and no trace from texts like the ones in the Quran. (- compared to some 45ooo from the Bible - why nothing from the Quran?)

Islam will have to prove their words to be believed - but Islam never gives valid profs for any central points in their religion.

118 5/46a: “- - - we (Allah*) sent Jesus - - -". Well, according to the Bible Jesus was sent by Yahweh.

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*119 5/46e: “We (Allah*) sent him (Jesus‘) the Gospel (a Gospel = the story about Jesus' life, death, resurrection and ascension to heaven) - - -”. Any god had known that the Gospels did not exist at the time of Jesus - the oldest of the 4 was written about 30 years after his death.(Islam tries to get out of this fix by claiming the Quran talks about an older Gospel. And actually there may have existed an older one. But as a Gospel as mentioned is the story of Jesus' life, death and resurrection, also this one in case could not be written until after all had happened - not unless there is full predestination, and thus no free will for man. And only the Quran claims predestination - one more serious difference between the two books and the two religions proving once more that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. See 3/3g-k and 3/48 above.

When it comes to claimed foretelling about Muhammad in the Bible, which is claimed in the Quran, it seems that just this was and is more essential to Islam and Muslims, than to Muhammad himself, because he did not return to that topic often (or maybe he was careful because he suspected or knew it was not true?). For Islam and Muslims it is an essential question, however, because Islam has not one single valid proof neither for Allah nor for Muhammad’s connection to a god – a real foretelling had been if not a proof, then at least a good indication. There exists no such one in the Bible, in spite of Islam's claims - they cherry-pick and then twist some words and quote them out of context (in stark contradiction to their own claim that f.x. in the Quran you have to take whole surahs or the whole book into consideration to be able to decide what a point or a verse means - "one rule for Loki and another for Thor"), and try to make it look like foretelling about Muhammad, but they can cheat only people not knowing the Bible.

Besides the Quran tells that Muhammad is to be fond both in OT and NT, and then Islam has to find him “come Hell or high water” – if not the Quran is wrong and then something is wrong with the religion. An indication of how essential this claim is to the Muslim clergy, is that in Hadiths – f.x. Al-Bukhari – you find “quotations” about Muhammad presumably taken from the Bible and presumably quoted from the Bible at about the time of Muhammad (and thus it is impossible even for Islam to claim that the Bible is falsified afterwards), which are not from the Bible, but the commentators do not whisper one word about that the quotes are wrong, but just let readers who do not know the Bible (= f.x. 99.9% of the Muslims) believe it is a “bona fide” and correct quote). An Al-Taqiyya.

120 5/46f: “- - - we (Allah*) sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law (of Moses*)”. According to the Bible Jesus was not sent to change the old laws – that was not his main purpose. All the same he did so – changed some and even nullified some of them, especially many of all the additions made by the times by Jewish religious thinkers and leaders. This was more or less formalized during his last Easter, when the new covenant (f.x. Luke 22/20) was made. (This covenant is never mentioned by Islam, and most Muslims without religious education have not even heard about it. This even though it is one of the main and most central facts in the Christian religion).

### It is worth remembering that at least in 3/50a the Quran confirms that Jesus changed old Jewish laws (and the same according to f.x. Matt. 15/11-20, Mark 7/14-19, Acts 10/10-16). Especially it is worth remembering this all the many times Muslims claims that Jesus confirmed the old laws of Moses, without mentioning a whisper about that both the Bible and the Quran confirm he changed or terminated a number of them.

#### An extra juicy pint here is that surah 3 - where Muhammad says Jesus came to "make lawful to you (the Jews*) part of what was (before) forbidden to you" (3/50) - is from ca. 625 AD. This means that already then he knew that Jesus changed laws. All the same he here - in 632 AD - he simply tells that Jesus was sent to confirm the Laws of Moses)". ######A clear and documented case of Muhammad lying in the Quran - he knew better.

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121 5/47c: "- - - what Allah hath revealed therein (in the Gospels*)". Allah has revealed pretty little in the Gospel - according to the Bible that in case is done by Yahweh. (This mistake is because Muhammad wrongly claimed Yahweh and Allah were the same god, and also claimed that the Gospels were sent down to man).

#####Remember that the Gospels were written in the times of written history. There is no chance that they originally were similar to the Quran and then changed - history had known about such things, + old documents prove it is wrong.

122 5/73a: “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity”. Our sources tell that the 3 last words does not exist in the Arab edition, but is added by Yusuf Ali. Then the correct text in case ends: “Allah (Yahweh*) is one of three (gods*).” This obviously is wrong, as Christians only believe in one god. Besides it is a most dubious way of working to make additions to a text without making the readers aware of that it is an addition – f.x. by at least putting the addition in ( ). Do you see why we have to be careful when working with Muslim texts?

But the claim in any case is wrong: Christians do not say Allah is one of a Trinity, but that Yahweh is one of a Trinity. (But there is a chance for that the Quran here is correct when it denies that the god is part of a trinity, as this is not said in the Bible - this is a Christian dogma from the 4. century, and it got its present form from the so-called Cappadocian Fathers. The nearest you come in the Bible is that Jesus said that he and his father, Yahweh, were one.) Also see 5/73b just below.

123 5/73b: “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity - - -.” Muhammad never understood the trinity - he even believed it consisted of Yahweh, Jesus, and Mary, a mistake no god - agreeing or not agreeing to the Trinity - would have made. But for once there is a possibility that the Quran has a point; the Trinity is formally not a part of the Bible. On the other hand those are the three special ones: Yahweh, Jesus and the Holy Spirit - we may think of them as God, his co-worker and representative, and his errand boy/messenger boy and helper. Trinity or not - those three have a special status according to both the Bible and the Quran (even though the Quran does not agree to which status - it even say the Holy Spirit = the angel Gabriel, which makes anyone really knowing the Bible laugh.) There also is the fact that according to the Bible, Jesus said that he and his father was one - but figuratively meant. Also see 5<773a just above.

124 5/76a. "Will ye (Christians*) worship, besides Allah (Jesus*) - - -". No Christian worships something besides Allah. They do not believe in Allah at all, and worship another god, Yahweh, INSTEAD OF Allah. There is a huge difference between these two concepts. (Oh, we know the Quran claims - and as normal for the Quran without proofs - that Yahweh and Allah is the same god, but their teachings are far too different for that to be true. And in addition it is proved both by science and by Islam that the Bible is not falsified.)

125 5/76b. "Will ye (Christians*) worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you?" The word "something" here must refer to Mary and Jesus in the previous verse. When it comes to Mary and the Catholics, Muhammad here may have a point - saints is not an idea you find in the Bible. (On the other hand Catholics do not pray to a divine Mary, only to what they believe may be a helper to reach the divine.) As for Jesus we are back to the fact that he several places told he could help - - - and to the old fact that science and Islam both clearly have proved that the Bible is not falsified, even though Islam is dependent on this never documented claim for their religion to survive. (If the Bible is not falsified, it is ever so clear that then the Quran is a made up - falsified - book, as so much of what it claims the Bible tells or should tell, is not from the Bible.)

126 5/110c: "- - - I (Allah*) strengthened thee (Jesus*) with the holy spirit - - -". Contradicted by the Bible which tells it was Yahweh who did this. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

##127 5/110i: "And behold, thou (Jesus*) bringest forth the dead by My (Allah's*) leave". For Muhammad it was essential to stress that it was not Jesus himself who resurrected the dead ones, but the god. (If it was Jesus himself, he clearly was a superior prophet to Muhammad - and Muhammad wanted to be the greatest). But the main thing here really is that if the Quran tells the truth here, it confirms that Jesus was connected to something supernatural and powerful - a god. For Muhammad and Allah this never and nowhere is proved - not one single time (of course Islam still will claim Allah = Yahweh, but the teachings fundamentally are so different that this only is possible if the god is strongly schizophrenic).

Remember here that science - and Islam - strongly has proved that the god of the Jews - and thus of Jesus - at the time of Jesus, was Yahweh, and that no god like Allah, no religion like Islam, and no book like the Quran existed in the entire Roman Empire or anywhere else at that time. Jesus' power thus came from Yahweh, not from Allah, if the old books tell the truth. Also see 3/49b above.

128 5/111a: "I (Allah*) inspired the Disciples (of Jesus*) to have faith in Me - - -". According to the Bible this was done by Yahweh.

129 5/114c: "(Jesus said*) O Allah our Lord - - -". Allah or Yahweh? No comment should necessary. (Remember that we here are in times of written history. We know ever so well that for one thing the god of the Jews was Yahweh, not Allah. For another that neither science nor Islam has ever found any traces from a god like Allah, a religion like Islam, or a book like the Quran anywhere in the world, included in what is now Israel. And for a third that if Jesus had preached about the pagan god al-Lah from a neighboring country - and especially if he had mixed him with Yahweh - the Jewish clergy had had him killed long time before, as religious fanaticism was strong in Israel at that time.

130 6/19i: "- - - He (Allah*) is the One God - - -". For one thing: The Quran is not more reliable than that its claims have to be proved - and the Quran never is able to prove anything. For another thing: The Bible talks about Yahweh (and other "holy" books about other gods). As Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - too fundamentally different teachings - there either has to be more than one god, or at least one of the two (not to mention claims about other gods) cannot exist. (And a small point here: Yahweh has proved his existences and his power according to both the Bible and to the Quran - Allah has proved absolutely nothing.)

131 6/64c: "- - - yet ye (non-Muslims*) worship false gods!" As far as Jews and Christians go, this is contradicted in the Bible - a book which on top of all neither mentions Allah nor Muhammad nor many of the most essential parts of Islam - like the duty to pray 5 times a day, the duty to go on pilgrimage to Mecca, the duty to wage war for the religion, etc. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs. Because as long as it is clear the Quran is not from any god, it may be Allah who is a falsification.

132 6/78e: "- - - your (Abram's/Abraham's people's*) (guilt) of giving partners to Allah". This is not from the Bible. There is no indication for a religious conflict between him and his people. And between him and his father there is no indication of any serious conflict of any kind. According to the Bible (1. Mos.11/31) Abram/Abraham travelled together with his father from Ur in Chaldea in what is now south Iraq to Haran in what is now north Iraq and settled there. Later left his father in Haran (1. Mos. 12/1), not because of a disagreement with his father, but because Yahweh called him to go to his promised land, Canaan - now roughly Israel.

133 6/80c: "He (Abram/Abraham*) said: (Come) ye (his people*) to dispute with me, about Allah, when He (himself) hath guided me?" Contradicted by the Bible which says his god was Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

134 6/80d: "He (Abram/Abraham*) said: (Come) ye (his people*) to dispute with me, about Allah, when He (himself) hath guided me?" Even omitting the fact that the Bible never mentions Allah (or Muhammad*), this is not from the Bible.

135 6/80e: "He (Abram/Abraham*) said: (Come) ye (his people*) to dispute with me, about Allah, when He (himself) hath guided me?" See 6/74d above.

136 6/80j: "- - - unless my (Abram's/Abraham's*) Lord (here indicated to be Allah*) willeth, (nothing can happen) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible to say the least of it - Yahweh is said to be powerful. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

137 6/80k: "- - - my (Abram's/Abraham's*) Lord (here claimed to be Allah*) comprehendeth in his knowledge all things". Not if the Quran is a sample of his knowledge and comprehension.

138 6/84c: "- - - We (Allah*) guided - - -". Allah or Yahweh? Muhammad claimed - as normal without any proof - that Allah just is another name for Yahweh (a claim proved wrong by the fact that the teachings fundamentally are too different (+ the fact that both science and Islam strongly have proved that the Bible is not falsified - Muhammad's standard, but wrong. "explanation" for the differences between the Bible and the Quran.)). This is so often claimed in the Quran, that we comment on it just now and then.

139 6/88c: "- - - He (Allah*) giveth guidance to whom He pleaseth, of His worshippers". Allah guides whom he pleases - Yahweh anyone who honestly asks for it according to the Bible. No comments.

140 6/91a: Claim: Allah (sent it (the books of Moses*) down). Contradicted by the Bible: Yahweh sent it to Moses (no book - the 2 stone tablets with the 10 Commandments. In addition he told Moses the Law, which Moses later wrote down - a scripture sometimes called "the Book of Covenance" (2. Mos. 24/7)). And we repeat two things: Science and even more so Islam have proved the Bible is not falsified. Plus see 6/91b just below. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs./p>

141 6/101c: “- - - how can he (Yahweh*) have a son when He hath no consort?” Wrong - and the Quran has itself given one possible solution: It declares that the god may just say “Be” and it is. May be Yahweh just said “Be a son”, and Jesus was.

##But there is another, but little known fact: In the very old Jewish religion there was a female god, too. They spoke about the god and his Amat (source among others “New Scientist”). In the very masculine society of the old Hebrews, the goddess was forgotten, though, - - - but it was possible for Yahweh to have a son “the natural way”. Gods would know this, but Muhammad not. Also see 17/111.

But why should gods make children the same way as humans and animals do? Similar claim in 18/5 – 112/3.

142 6/150f: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) hold others (other gods*) equal to their Guardian Lord (Allah*)". See 25/18a below.

143 6/161g: "- - - the Path of Abraham (Islam*) - - -". One thing is that the Bible disagrees and talks about connection to Yahweh, not to Allah. Another thing is that the Quran never documents any connection to Abraham - there only are claims. And a third is that nearly nothing of the central claims in the Quran agrees with what the only real(?) source about Abraham, the Bible, tells. And a forth: There is nowhere in the entire world found any traces of a religion like Islam or a god like Allah older than 610 AD.

144 6/161j: "- - - he (Abraham*) (certainly) joined not gods with Allah". Very naturally if the Bible is correct when it tells that Abraham believed in Yahweh and was not involved with Allah at all.

145 7/59b: "Ye (the people of Noah*) have no other god but Him (Allah)". Contradicted by the Bible, which claims Noah's god was Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

146 7/62: "- - - I (Noah*) know from Allah something ye (his people*) know not". Contradicted by the Bible which claims he knew it from Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

147 7/63a: (Noah said:) "Do ye (his people*) wonder that there hath come to you a messenger from your Lord (Allah*), through a man of your own people - - -?" Muhammad is making a parallel to himself (he often does in the Quran) - the claim (and in this case mostly correct - as most of the confirmed(?) ones were Jews working among Jews (but not all)) is that prophets come from among their own people, so then it is very normal that Muhammad is an Arab amongst Arabs, Muhammad claimed.

148 7/80a: "We (Allah*) also sent Lut (Lot*) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells his god was Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

149 7/80b: "We (Allah*) also sent Lut (Lot*) - - -". In the Quran Lot is a prophet. Not so in the Bible. (And in the Bible he as mentioned is connected to Yahweh, not to al-Lah/Allah (later renamed to only Allah by Muhammad)).

150 7/105a: "One (Moses*) for whom it is right to say nothing but the truth about Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells Moses spoke about Yahweh.

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151 7/105c: "- - - your (the Pharaoh's*) Lord (Allah*) - - -". Science says that if the exodus ever happened, it took place around 1235 BC. That means under the mighty and well known Pharaoh Ramses II (Islam wants it to have happened earlier under pharaohs whose reason for death is not known - Ramses II did not drown (guess if 3 religions had vocalized about it if this had been the case!)). What is very sure, is that Allah was no known god to Ramses II, except perhaps as one of many gods in a distant country. And what is as sure, is that Ramses II was a polytheist.

We may add that originally Hubal was the moon god in Arabia, and some sources say the Kabah originally was his temple and dedicated to him. But when Muhammad was born, al-Lah - sometimes named Allah - may have taken over as Arabia's main god. It is a bit ironic that a building dedicated to an old moon god (be it Hubal or al-Lah/Allah - because also Allah had been a moon god and the crescent moon still is his symbol) was and is the most holy place on Earth for a claimed only and claimed omnipotent god - and as ironic is the fact that if Muhammad had been born earlier, Islam's god might have been named Hubal, not Allah (Muhammad simply took over the claimed mightiest of the pagan Arab gods, and earlier Hubal was reckoned to be the most powerful one - and the moon god like al-Lah had been and perhaps still was).

########We have not mentioned much about al-Lah/Allah's position in the Kabah before Muhammad. The reason is that it is quite unclear. There are the two gods mentioned as the main god for the Quraysh tribe = the main god in the Kabah: Hubal, the moon god, and al-Lah/Allah - also a moon god, at least in southern parts of Arabia. There are clear indications, but no proofs, for that these two really and simply were two names for the same god - perhaps with Hubal as his "personal" name and al-Lah/Allah his title (al-Lah/Allah means "the god", or in this case "the main god").

There also are indications for that there were connections between Hubal and the Ba'al known from f.x. the Bible - same god and similar name (HuBal), but in another variety of religion. If this is true, the Quran and Islam are way beyond the Milky Way when they forward claims like Zachariya prayed to Allah/Hubal/Ba'al, or that Jesus preached about Allah/Hubal/Ba'al, as in those times such connections would be known, even if they are forgotten today, and Ba'al represented the Devil to the Jews of those times.

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152 7/117a: "We (the god) put into Moses' mind by inspiration - - -". This method of transferring information is never mentioned in the Bible - on the contrary Yahweh specifies that he used direct talk, visions or dreams (4. Mos. 12/6-7).

153 7/128a: "Said Moses to his people: 'Pray for help from Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which claims Yahweh was the god of Moses. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

154 7/133a: (621 AD): “So we sent (plagues) on them: Wholesale death (plague 10 in the Bible (2. Mos. 11/1-10)*), locusts (plague 8 in the Bible (2. Mos. 10/1-20)*), lice (not mentioned in the Bible, but perhaps mixed up with gnats - plague 3 - or flies - plague 4*), frogs (plague 2 in the Bible (2. Mos. 8/1-15)*), and blood (plague 1. in the Bible (2. Mos. 7/14-24)*): Signs openly self-explained” = 5 plagues or “signs”. Contradicted by: 17/101 (621 AD or later): “To Moses We (Allah*) did give 9 Clear Signs”. Muslims explain that the staff/snake of Moses and his white hand were two of the “signs” (7/107+108) - but they cannot be interpreted as plagues in case. The two last some say are the years of draught and shortness of crops (taken from the story about Joseph?), but this cannot be correct - even if no book say how long time Moses worked to get his people free, it is indicated that it took a limited time (this also is clear from the Bible), whereas years of shortage of crops took - well, years. (The Bible tells: The sign with the staff and white hand, like in the Quran (though the hand leprous, so that both the color and the healing of the frightening illness were signs), and water poured on the ground turned to blood (not in the Quran), but followed by 10 plagues (included one - the first - where all water - also the Nile - turned to blood) = 13 signs all together).

(4 contradictions).

The list of "signs" according to the Quran (taken from YA1091) - the claimed 9 clear signs:

  1. The rod turning to a snake (7/107).
  2. The white, radiant hand (7/|08).
  3. The years of drought or shortage of water (7/130). This one is impossible if the time frame in the Bible is not wildly wrong. It also is highly unlikely that Yahweh and Moses had the patience to wait for years for the next step.
  4. Wholesale death (7/133). The Arab word used here, "tufan", in reality means a widespread calamity causing wholesale death and destruction. The corresponding Biblical one is more specific.)
  5. Shortness of crops (7/130). This in reality is a clear and natural part of shortage of water, but may have been added as a separate "sign" to get 9 "signs" - the number the Quran mentions.
  6. Epidemics among men and beasts (7/133).
  7. Locusts (7/133).
  8. Lice (7/133).
  9. Frogs (7/133).
  10. The water in the Nile, etc. turned to blood.

The list of the signs (3) and plagues (10) according to the Bible:

The 3 signs:

  1. The staff becoming a snake (2. Mos. 4/3-4).
  2. The white, leprous hand (2. Mos. 4/6-7).
  3. Water poured on the ground became blood (2. Mos. 4/9).

The 10 plagues:

  1. All water becoming blood (2. Mos. 7/14-24).
  2. The plague of frogs (2. Mos. 8/1-15).
  3. The plague of gnats (2. Mos. 8/16-19).
  4. The plague of flies (2. Mos. 8/20-30).
  5. The plague on the livestock (2. Mos. 9/1-7).
  6. The plague of boils (2. Mos. 9/8-12)
  7. The plague of hail (2. Mos.9/13-35).
  8. The plague of locusts (2. Mos. 10/1-20).
  9. The plague of darkness (2. Mos. 10/21-29).
  10. The death of all firstborn in Egyptians (2. mos. 11/1-10).

155 7/140d: "- - - it is Allah Who hath endowed you (the Jews*) with gifts - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells that Moses spoke about Yahweh, not about Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

156 7/169a: "Was not the Covenant of the Book (here indicated with Allah*) taken from them (the Jews*), that they would not ascribe to Allah anything but the truth?" To use an understatement: The Jews hardly had promised Allah this - Yahweh, yes, but not Allah. Another thing is that Islam and the Muslims included Muhammad would dearly like the Covenant between Yahweh and Israel to be terminated - and here they use claimed sins in unnamed place(s) at an unspecified time - difficult to check - as background for the question (and you also may meet it as a - as normal from Islam not proved - statement and claimed "fact"). But no: There nowhere - not even in the Quran - anywhere is said that that Covenant is terminated - disused and broken, but never terminated. (The same goes for the New Covenant which Jesus formalized the Last Supper between Yahweh and the followers of Jesus, later called Christians - never terminated according to any known scripture.) Also see 7/170a+c below.

157 7/171b: "- - - perchance you (Moses' Jews) may fear Allah". According to the Bible their god was Yahweh, not Allah.

158 10/71d: "- - - I (Noah*) put my trust in Allah". Noah is claimed to be a good Muslim. But there exists no documented or in other ways proved traces of Islam inside or outside the Quran older than 610 AD. (Noah - if he is not fiction - lived 4ooo years or more earlier.) A lot of words and claims, but nothing else - and words and claims are very cheap, especially when used for propaganda. And as the Quran with all its errors is not from any god - from where did Muhammad get this information or "information"?

159 10/71e: "- - - I (Noah*) put my trust in Allah". Contradicted by the Bible, which says his god was Yahweh. (But then Muhammad normally, but wrongly, mixes those two gods - or claimed god(s)). Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

160 10/71d: "- - - I (Noah*) put my trust in Allah". Noah is claimed to be a good Muslim. But there exists no documented or in other ways proved traces of Islam inside or outside the Quran older than 610 AD. (Noah - if he is not fiction - lived 4ooo years or more earlier.) A lot of words and claims, but nothing else - and words and claims are very cheap, especially when used for propaganda. And as the Quran with all its errors is not from any god - from where did Muhammad get this information or "information"?

161 10/71e: "- - - I (Noah*) put my trust in Allah". Contradicted by the Bible, which says his god was Yahweh. (But then Muhammad normally, but wrongly, mixes those two gods - or claimed god(s)). Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

162 10/76a: "When the Truth did come to them (Pharaoh Ramses II and his people*) from Us (Allah*) - - -". Here at least there is a contradiction to the Bible - according to the Bible the message was from Yahweh. But it also contradicts science and Islamic reality: Neither science nor Islam has ever found any trace from a god like Allah, a religion like Islam, or a book like the Quran anywhere in the world older than 610 AD - some 1800+ years after Exodus.

163 10/93d: "Verily Allah will judge between them (the Jews*) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells this will be Yahweh's job. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

164 10/106c: "- - - such (other gods than Allah*) will neither profit thee (humans*) nor hurt thee - - -". Well, there f.x. is the impertinent - or pertinent - question about Yahweh, whom even the Quran admits exists, even if it wrongly mixes him up with Allah.

165 11/25-26: Noah had a clear warning from Allah. These details are not from the Bible. And science has found not one single trace from Islam older than 610 AD. Not to mention: Also Islam has been unable to prove anything or any traces from its religion older than 610 AD. Compare this to some 45ooo verbal traces + innumerable other traces from the Mosaic and Christian religions older than 610 AD. Islam claims Islam was taught through all the times and all over the world. Why then not one single trace of any kind?

166 11/25c: "I (Noah*) have come to you with a Clear Warning - - -". Noah here mimics Muhammad - like the Quran tells more or less all claimed prophets in the book does. Whether the tales are true or not, they have the effect that Muhammad's words seems to be normal for prophets, and thus "tell" that Muhammad was a normal prophet.

167 11/26a: "That ye (the people of Noah*) serve none but Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says that the involved god was Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

168 11/26b: "That ye (the people of Noah*) serve none but Allah: verily, I do fear for you the Penalty of a Grievous Day". See 11/25c above.

169 11/41a: "- - - in the name of Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which clearly states that Noah's god was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

170 11/43f: "- - - the Command of Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bibles, which says the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah. (Actually much/most of the Quran's tales about Noah and the big flood are not from the Bible, and not a little directly contradicts the Bible. This in spite of the fact that the Bible was and is the only known source for information(?) about that flood - well, Muslims claim he got information from Allah, but as the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is from no god, this claim is not correct. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

171 11/73a: "The grace of Allah and His blessing on you (Abraham and Sarah*) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells Abraham's god was Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

172 11/75b: "- - - Abraham was - - - given to look to Allah". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells his god was Yahweh, nor Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

173 11/82a: "- - - We (Allah*) turned (the cities (Sodom and Gomorrah*)) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer - - -". Another small (?) contradiction to the Bible: Yahweh simply let it rain burning sulfur - 1. Mos. 19/24.

Another point: We have not been able to find any place where Sodom and Gomorra can be suspected to have been situated, which is covered by "layer on layer" of brimstone.

174 12/7b: "Verily, in Joseph and his brethren are Signs (or Symbols) for Seekers (after Truth)". But what/whom does it symbolize if the god was Yahweh like the Bible says, and not Allah?

175 12/37c: "- - - Allah - - -". Just for the record: According to the Bible, Joseph's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

176 12/40c: "- - - Allah - - -". Once more: According to the Bible Joseph's god was Yahweh, not Allah. One of the MANY places in the Quran where Muhammad pretends Allah = Yahweh.

177 12/51f: "- - - Allah - - -". According to the Bible, the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah.

178 12/64b: "- - - Allah - - -". According to the Bible Jacob's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

179 12/66e: "- - - Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells that Jacob's god was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs. One of the MANY places in the Quran where Muhammad pretends Allah = Yahweh.

180 12/67c: "- - - Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells that Jacob's god was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

181 12/68c: "- - - Allah - - -". According to the Bible, the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah. One of the MANY places in the Quran where Muhammad pretends Allah = Yahweh.

182 12/76f: "- - - Allah - - -". The Bible tells that the god involved was Yahweh, not Allah. One of the MANY places in the Quran where Muhammad pretends Allah = Yahweh.

183 12/77e: "- - - Allah - - -". According to the Bible Joseph's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

184 12/79b: "He (Joseph*) said: 'Allah forbid - - -'". According to the Bible Joseph's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

185 12/85c: The brothers swear "by Allah". But according to the Bible the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah.

186 12/86b: "- - - Allah - - -". But according to the Bible the god involved was Yahweh, not Allah. One of the MANY places in the Quran where Muhammad pretends Allah = Yahweh.

187 12/87f: "- - - Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible which tells that Jacob's god was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

188 12/90d: "- - - Allah - - -". According to the Bible Joseph’s god was Yahweh, not Allah.

189 12/91c: "They (the brothers*) said: 'By Allah! - - -". They swear by Allah - expressions starting with "by" in the Quran, normally are oaths. But according to the Bible, their god was Yahweh, not Allah.

190 12/92b: "- - - Allah will forgive you (the brothers*) - - -". According to the Bible, Joseph's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

191 12/95e: "- - - Allah - - -". Just for the record, we repeat that according to the Bible, the god of Jacob was Yahweh, not Allah. Not from the Bible.

192 12/99e: "- - - Allah". As mentioned before, according to the Bible Jacob's and Joseph's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

193 12/100d: "- - - Allah - - -". According to the Bible, their god was Yahweh, not Allah. One of the MANY places in the Quran where Muhammad pretends Allah = Yahweh.

194 12/101e: "Take Thou (Allah) my (Joseph's*) soul - - - (as a Muslim)". Believe it if you want - but remember how many mistakes, errors, etc. there are in the Quran, and that there does not exist one single trace from Islam or similar anywhere in the world older than 610 AD. Not one single (except the few building on the Bible, and they - and especially the Christian one - are so far from Islam, that the claimed relationship mostly just are claims, and the rest superficial points).

195 12/101f: "Take Thou (Allah) my (Joseph's*) soul (at death) as one submitting to Thy (here indicated Allah's*) Will (as a Muslim) - - -". For one thing there is nothing even remotely similar to this in the Bible, and for another: This text is incompatible with the Bible to say the least of it - according to the Bible Joseph's god was Yahweh, not Allah, and according to facts neither science, nor Islam has found one single trace of Muslims/Islam older than 610 AH - Joseph (if he is not fiction) lived 2ooo-2500 years earlier.

196 13/14e: "- - - any others (other gods than Allah*) they call upon besides Him hear them (not*) - - -". Well, we are back to the question about Yahweh - the Bible says he hears and helps. Besides: Allah has not in the entire history and prehistory provably heard anything at all.

197 14/5a: "We (Allah*) sent Moses with Our Signs - - -". According to the Bible it was Yahweh who sent him and who gave him the signs. (The Quran likes to claim - always without any valid documentation - that the two are the same god, but the teachings are so fundamentally different, that this is not correct.

###198 14/5d: “Bring out thy (Moses’*) people (the Jews*) from the depth of darkness into light, and teach them to remember the Days of Allah”. We just remind you that Muhammad claimed Allah = Yahweh - a claim which is easy to see is wrong, as the fundamental ideas and ideologies in the teachings are too deeply different (Jesus love and peace and empathy, Muhammad Nazi-like haughtiness, discrimination and war - and lawful dishonesty (al-Taqiyya, etc)). Because of this claim, he uses the name Allah for Yahweh. This mistake is so obvious and so easy to see, that often we do not bother to comment on it.

199 14/5h: “- - - Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b and 13/2m above. Besides: Moses hardly met Allah - he in case met Yahweh. We remind you that Allah and Yahweh in spite of the Quran's repeated, but never documented claims are not the same god - too fundamental differences. And that science long since has proved that also the Quran's many, but never documented (like always for central questions in the Quran) claims that the Bible is falsified are wrong. Actually Islam has proved it stronger by not finding one single proved falsified manuscript among the many thousands of relevant old such ones.

200 14/6b: "- - - the favors of Allah - - -". According to the Bible the god involved in this case was Yahweh, not Allah.

201 14/39a: "Praise be to Allah - - -". This is said by Abraham, but the Bible contradicts and says Abraham's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

202 15/69a: "- - - fear Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells that the god of Lot was Yahweh, not Allah.

203 16/56d: "- - - your (non-Muslims*) false inventions (other gods than Allah*)". But are all of the false inventions? There f.x. is the problem of the old Jewish and Christian god Yahweh, who according to the Bible far from is a made up god - in stark contrast to Allah, still according to the Bible. NB: Also the Quran tells that the old Jewish and Christian god exists, though they mix up his name with their own god Allah.

204 16/118a: "To the Jews We (Allah*) prohibited such things - - -". Clearly incompatible with the Bible - and history - which tells that the god of the Jews was Yahweh, not Allah.

205 16/120b: "Abraham was - - - obedient to Allah - - -". At least this contradicts the Bible, where he was obedient to Yahweh - another god with another religion (if there is just one god and he is one of these two - who is it?)

206 16/120d: "- - - he (Abraham*) joined no gods with Allah - - -". If the Bible tells the truth the simple reason for this was that Abraham did not believe in Allah at all, and thus could not join any god with him - most likely had never heard about him - as his god to whom he according to the same Bible was much devoted to, was Yahweh. Incompatible with the Bible.

207 17/2a: “We (Allah*) gave Moses the Book (the Quran or similar to the Quran = the "not falsified" Books of Moses, is what is indicated - claimed by Islam), - - -”. According to all information and to science this is wrong. God /Yahweh gave him (according to the Bible) the 10 commandments only + he told him the law (later a part of the Torah) that he himself wrote down. The Books of Moses in reality are several hundred years younger according to science. Plus: Nothing similar to the Quran is known anywhere in the world until after 610 AD = roughly 2ooo years after Moses.

208 17/2b: “We (Allah*) gave Moses the Book - - -". According to the Bible Yahweh was the god of Moses, not Allah.

209 17/2e: "Take no other than Me (Allah*) as Disposer of (your (Moses*)) affairs". The unavoidable fact: Allah can be the disposer of nobody's affairs if he does not exist (and if he exist and is from the dark powers - he is not a god if he is behind the Quran with all its mistakes - he may be quite a special disposer). Another fact is that according to the Bible Moses' god was Yahweh, not Allah.

210 17/3a: "Ye that are sprung from those We (Allah*) carried (in the Ark) - - -". According to the Bible the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah. According to science there never was a flood covering even the mountains.

211 17/5b: “- - - We (Allah*) sent against you (the Jews*) Our servants (attackers from Assyria) given to terrible warfare - - -”. Israel was attacked some times during the time of OT (local enemies many times, and Assyria and Babylonia are best known), but for natural reasons no Muslim was involved (1000 years and more too early).

According to the Bible also the god involved was Yahweh, not Allah.

212 17/55f: “We (Allah*) gave David (the gift of) the Psalms”. According to the Bible, the god of David was Yahweh, not Allah.

***213 17/103c: “- - - We (Allah*) did drown him (Pharaoh Ramses II) and all who were with him.” According to the Bible it was Yahweh, not Allah who did this (except that Ramses II did not drown and did not die until several years later).

*214 17/111b: “- - - Allah, Who begets no son - - -”. Well, Jesus called Yahweh “father” many times (the word "father" for the relationship Yahweh/Jesus is used at least 204 times in the Bible, and the word "son" at least 89 times - frequently by Jesus, who also the Quran says was reliable - and remember: The Bible is proved not falsified). Besides it is funny to read the Quran scolding Arabs to believe Allah had daughters - al-Lat, al-Uzza and (al-) Manat - because it is plain stupidity to believe a god who wanted family, would choose to have daughters. He was sure to choose sons. That "imbecility" was enough proof in the man-centered old Arabia, to “prove” that the very idea had to be wrong. But when Yahweh may be wanted some company - a son - that is an utter impossibility in spite of this. Even more funny because the Quran, Muhammad, Islam and Muslims tell it is impossible for mere humans to understand a god - - - but everyone seems to be sure that a god wants to be alone, and neither do they ask if a god perhaps has a reason (that we may or may not understand) for having a son, nor ask if he just wants company. Who knows a god's wishes?

215 18/4b: "- - - those (also) who say, 'Allah hath begotten a son - - -'" = The Christians - the sentence refers to Jesus, whom the Bible tells is the son of God/Yahweh. (The word "father" is used for the relationship between Yahweh and Jesus at least 204 times in the Bible, and the word "son" at least 87 - included often by Jesus himself).

216 18/4c: "- - - those (also) who say, 'Allah hath begotten a son'". How could this end up in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened? One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a Plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

  1. When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.
  2. The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.
  3. The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

Also see 3/154e, 6/149a, 7/34a, and 14/22b above.

217 18/4d: "(It is wrong*) that Allah hath begotten a son”. Well, we are back to the old facts that Jesus according to the Bible - written on the background of thousands of witnesses/listeners and thus difficult to falsify - many times called God/Yahweh Father (Yahweh is called the father of Jesus at least 204 times in the Bible, and Jesus the son of Yahweh at least 89 times - many of those cases by Jesus himself, a very reliable person also according to the Quran), that humble humans - f.x. Muhammad - are unable to understand completely the ways and wishes of a god (may be Yahweh wanted a son for some reason), and that Islam has to deny that Jesus was the son of Yahweh, in order to make (or pretend?) Mohammad the greatest prophet. Besides: Where are Islam’s proofs? - in spite of Islam’s glorifying of blind belief - a psychologically wise slogan when all they have are doubtful and at least partly wrong texts from a doubtful, self proclaimed “prophet” of at least as doubtful character - it is naïve in the extreme to believe blindly in so serious matter as eternity. If your chosen religion is a made up one - which every blind believer in every religion believes just their religion is not - where do you end if there is a next life? - and what if there is a real religion that you have not found, because of your blindness. Perhaps all religions are made up and just is a result of an inner longing in some people for something absolute (science have found that many weak - and some stronger - souls have such a longing in their genes or psyche - one of the genes active here is the gene VMAT2, according to The American Institute of Cancer Research, who stumbled across it in their research for cancer genes), but in that case one at least does not have to make life as miserable for ones fellow men (and even more for the women) as Islam preaches - hate, suppression, rape, stealing, enslavement, and war.

218 18/5b: "It is a grievous thing (to say Jesus is son of Yahweh (claimed to be just another name for Allah)*) that issues from their (Christians'*) mouths as a saying". For one thing Muhammad could not accept Jesus was son of Yahweh, because then obviously Muhammad was not the greatest. Besides he never understood the constellation Yahweh/Jesus/Holy Spirit (though he may be right that the trinity dogma may be is not correct - it is man-made and not from the Bible - - - but Muhammad believed it consisted of Yahweh/Jesus/Mary(!)), and he never understood that a prince only is a prince even if his father is a king - Jesus belonged to divine stock, but was and is not a god. Thus he found that to look at Jesus as divine, was polytheism, and polytheism he could not accept.

But it is provoking some thoughts that 19/19 admits that Jesus was holy, which Muhammad definitely was not, also according to the Quran - how can Muhammad then be the greatest prophet?. And that Jesus in 19/33 talks about his death and resurrection, whereas Islam claims he did not die, but was taken up to Heaven alive - one of them is wrong.

219 18/5c: “What they (the Christians*) say (about Jesus being the son of Yahweh (claimed to be another name for Allah only)*) is nothing but falsehood”. Tell that to all the witnesses who heard Jesus say so. There were so many listening to Jesus, that if a thing like this (Jesus calling Yahweh his father, and obviously in a traditional meaning - though perhaps a created, not a born son) was a lie, but was written in scripts meant for many to read, there had been serious protests and corrections. We do not say Jesus spoke the truth - even if he is accepted also by Islam to be an honest prophet. But we say it is highly unlikely that he did not say - many times - that Yahweh was his father and he himself the son of Yahweh. There simply were too many witnesses to what he said.

220 18/26g: "They have no protector other than Him (Allah*) - - -". The Bible contradicts, at least for believers in Yahweh.

##221 18/50a: "- - - We (Allah*) said to the angels. 'Bow down to Adam.'". This is not from the Bible, and it is one of the more than 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. In Allah's paradise, man clearly have measurably higher standing than angels. In Yahweh's the lines are not as clearly told, but it is very clear that angels are of higher standing than man. Add this to man's life in the paradises: Allah's offer resurrection in body, top earthly luxury and plenty of women - and no mental activity. In Yahweh's the resurrected souls becomes like angels. There are nearly no similarities at all, and the differences are formidable. Not the same paradise - not the same gods.

222 19/4c: "(Zakariyya prayed*): O my Lord (here indicated Allah*)!" Zakariyya was a Jewish priest, and not only a priest, but a priest in the Temple in Jerusalem, in a period when religion was very strong in Israel. We also are at a time from which we have written documents (f.x. Josephus Flavius just few a years later), so the strength of the Jewish religious society is no guesswork - it is written facts. Not one single Jewish priest would ever get the idea of praying to the Arab pagan god al-Lah (whom Muhammad later renamed only Allah). And if he did, he hardly would survive many days. And as we now have entered times with written history, there also is not the slightest doubt that the Jewish god was Yahweh, not Allah. And we know for sure that the Jewish religion, its ceremonies, and its basic thoughts at this time were in accordance with OT, and very far from what Muhammad later outlined in the Quran.

A Jewish priest in the very Temple of Jerusalem praying to the pagan god of a neighboring country!!? Anyone knowing history will have a good laugh here.

223 19/4d: "(Zakariyya prayed*): O my Lord (here indicated Allah*)! According to the Bible his god was Yahweh, not Allah. The same according to historical facts.

224 19/4e: "Praying (here wrongly indicated to Allah*) - - -". Why pray to Allah if everything is predestined, like the Quran states many places? Nobody and nothing can change Allah's predestined plan, so what is then the idea with prayers?

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem which really can have only one valid solutions, can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. F.x. in cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. Islam teaches differently. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1): Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. Islam is teaching differently. 2): The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other. Islam is teaching differently.)

Another fact: Today it is easy by means of statistical methods to check if prayers have any effect. (Let f.x. 1ooo persons each pray for one among 1ooo unknown persons sick or in other ways in need. Compare the result after some time with a similar group of 1ooo who has not been prayed for, and see if there is a difference. If there is a positive difference, this would be a strong indication or perhaps even a proof for something - a proof Islam strongly and dearly needs, as they have not any proof for even a single of its central claims. But it has not even tried to make such a test. Why?)

225 19/4f: "- - - my (Zakariyya's*) Lord (Allah*) - - -". According to the Bible his god was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 19/4a just above.

226 19/11c: "- - - he (Zachariah*) told them (the people around*) by signs to celebrate Allah's praises - - -". Both the Quran and the Bible tell Zachariah was a Jewish priest, and the Bible in addition tells that he got his message in the Temple (Luke 1/9-11), and you can be both 100% and 1000% sure of that a Jewish priest performing a sermon in the Temple in Jerusalem in the year 2 BC (or actually ca. 6 - 7 BC as the international chronology is some 4-6 years wrong, and this message happened ca. 15 months before Jesus was born) did not ask ANYONE praise the pagan god al-Lah from a neighboring country - he on top of the impossibilities had been killed immediately. Jewish priest in the very Temple of Jerusalem praying to the pagan god of a neighboring country!!? Anyone knowing history will have a good laugh here.

Muslims will try to explain the name with that Allah just is the Arab name for Yahweh/God, but that clearly is not true, as the teachings are too different - especially between NT including its New Covenant and the Quran - and remember: If Muslims try to explain away the differences with their never documented claims about falsifications in the Bible, science has long since proved this untrue, and Islam has proved it even stronger by being unable to find any falsified relevant old scripture at all (if Muslims still insists, they will have to produce proofs, not just loose claims, which is all they have produced until this day).

####One more fact: We are now in times of written history. We know - know - that the Mosaic religion was very strong in Israel around the time of Jesus. A priest in the Temple preaching Allah/al-Lah - a known pagan god from a neighboring people - would 5 minutes later be no priest any more, and likely not alive shortly after. We also know that there was no god like Allah, no religion like Islam, and no book similar to the Quran anywhere in the entire Roman Empire at that time - and not until well after 610 AD.

227 19/21a: "- - - (We (Allah*) wish to appoint him (Jesus*) as a Sign onto Us - - -". If the old books tell the truth, Jesus definitely was a sign - but for Yahweh, not for the claimed, but never proved and very different god Allah.

228 19/21c: "- - - (Jesus will be) a mercy from Us (Allah*) - - -". We think it is no big secret that the Bible contradicts this and says Jesus was from Yahweh. And so does history.

229 19/26b: "I (Mary*) have vowed to fast to (Allah*) Most Gracious - - -". It should not be necessary to remind anyone that according to the Bible, her god was Yahweh, and not Allah. We also from other historical sources know that Yahweh was the god of the Jews at this time.

Besides: Fasting for a brand new mother needing nourishment for producing milk for her baby? Who would believe her?

230 19/35a: “It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah (Yahweh*) that He should beget a son”. We hope it really is the god who is talking here, because if it is Muhammad; how is a human to know what is befitting for a god? - and majesties often have children - many children. F.x. Ramses II had 67 sons (well, the number varies some from one source to another) and an unknown number of daughters, and Djingis Khan had so many children that science still can trace his DNA in Asia (source: New Scientist). And if this statement is true, there is the enigma of Jesus’ saying “father” and “my father” about Yahweh (the word “father” (of Jesus) is used at least 204 times in the Bible, and the word “son” at least 89 times about the relationship between Yahweh and Jesus according to our latest leafing through the Bible – frequently by Jesus himself) – both the Bible and the Quran says Jesus was honest - and science has showed that the Bible is not falsified in spite of Islam's never documented claims. (Also remember: Muhammad calls Yahweh Allah, as he insists it is the same god - something that is possible only if Yahweh/Allah is schizophrenic, as there are too many and too grave differences between the two teachings.) Also see 19/92 – 37/152 – 37/180 below.

231 19/53b: "- - - We (Allah*) gave him (Moses*) his brother Aaron - - -". The other way round would be more correct, as Aaron according to the Bible was 3 years older than Moses. And not to forget: According to the Bible, Moses' god was Yahweh, not Allah

232 19/58b: "- - - those (Jewish prophets*) whom We (Allah*) guided - - -". As Allah and Yahweh is not the same god - too much is different of the fundamental elements of the teachings - Allah was not involved with the Jewish prophets according to the Bible, and neither according to history.

233 19/58c: "- - - those (Jewish prophets*) whom We (Allah*) guided - - -". One cannot guide anyone very much with something similar to the Quran with all its mistakes, etc., and according to the Quran that was what Allah had to offer his claimed prophets. Besides: Neither science, nor Islam has found any traces indicating a god like Allah, a religion like Islam, or a book like the Quran existing during the times of the Jewish prophets, included during the times of Jesus.

234 20/36a: "(Allah) said - - -". We just remind you that according to the Bible the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah.

235 20/50a: "Our (Moses*) Lord (here intended to be Allah*) - - -". The Bible says that Moses' god was Yahweh, not Allah.

236 20/61ba: "- - - Allah - - -". The Quran uses Allah many places where Yahweh had been correct according to the Bible (a number of them also according to history) - we just mention it, even though most non-Muslims see this without any help.

237 20/90c: "- - - for verily your (Jews*) Lord is (Allah) - - -". The Bible here disagrees and means that the god of the Jews was - and is - Yahweh.

238 20/98a: "(Moses said*) - - - god of you all (Jews*) is Allah - - -". The Bible disagrees. And so does science, as neither it nor Islam has found a single clear trace of Allah older than 610 AD. And actually also the Quran disagrees, as it proves Yahweh and Allah is not the same god, and it is clear from many sources that the god of the Jews was Yahweh (who, also in spite of Muhammad's many claims, was another and different god).

239 20/115: "We (Allah*) had already, beforehand, taken a covenant with Adam - - -". Once more a contradiction to the Bible, which says Adam's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

240 21/26a: “And they say ‘(Allah) Most Glorious has begotten offspring’. Glory to Him! They are (but) servants raised to honor“. We do not know what is the truth about al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat - the daughters of al-Lah/Allah in the old Arab religion. But Jesus at least told many times that Yahweh was his father, according to the Bible.

241 21/57a: "- - - by Allah - - -". Abraham is swearing by Allah - expressions in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths. But according to the Bible Abraham's god was Yahweh, and living far from Arabia at this time - He did not come even to Canaan until after he was 75 (1. Mos. 12/4) - he hardly even had heard the name of the old Arab pagan god al-Lah, not to mention Allah. (But perhaps the older names al-Ilah (the moon god of at least south Arabia - it is no co-incidence that the crescent moon is the symbol for Allah and for Islam) or Il - the oldest known name.)

242 21/71a: "But We (Allah*) delivered him (Abraham*) and (his nephew) Lut (Lot in the Bible*) - - -". Just a reminder: According to the Bible Abraham's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

243 21/80b: “It was We (Allah*) Who taught him (King David*) the making of coats of mail”. If this had been true, it is thought provoking the Allah did teach how to make coats-of-mail to use when going on raids or to war, whereas Yahweh in his New Covenant (f.x. Matt. 26/28) via Jesus taught you: "Love your enemy" (Matt. 5/44).(And NB: The coat of mail was not invented until some 600-700 years after David, and then by the Celts.)

244 21/89b: "- - - Zakariyya, when he cried to his Lord (here indicated to be Allah*) - - -". This is plainly wrong. One thing is that the Bible says his god was Yahweh, not Allah. Much more serious here is that we now are in the times of history: Zakariyya was a priest in the Temple in Jerusalem according to both the Bible and the Quran, and we are around the times of the birth of Jesus. From these times we have a number of written papers confirming that the cult of Yahweh was totally dominant in Israel - so dominant that to pray to a pagan god (al-Lah) from a neighboring country in the Temple at this time, not to mention for a priest to do so, was much more than unthinkable. Thus we here have not only a statement from the Bible, but a proved fact that it was out of any question for Zakariyya (Zechariah in the Bible) to pray to Allah/al-Lah.

*245 21/91c: “- - - and We (the god*) made her (Mary’s*) son (Jesus*) a Sign for all peoples.” Very correct according to the Bible - but a sign for Yahweh/God, not for Allah - not unless Islam proves Allah is the same god as Yahweh/God. And the two religions and the two gods - especially the war god Allah from the surahs from Medina compared to the benevolent God/Yahweh from NT - are too different for that to be possible - not unless the god is seriously ill mentally.

Definitely not a proof for Allah. But a proof for Yahweh/God if the old books tell the truth on this point.

246 23/23c: "Ye (Noah's people*) have no other god than Him (Allah*)". For one thing the Bible here will claim that Noah's god was Yahweh, and for another see 6/106b above.

247 23/50a: "And We (here indicated Allah*) made the son of Mary and his mother as a Sign". But according to the Bible and also according to the scientific fact that Allah (or al-Lah) was not believed in in Israel at that time, whereas Yahweh was the totally dominant one the among the Jews. Thus also history confirms that the involved god was Yahweh. Thus Mary and Jesus were signs for Yahweh, not for Allah.

248 23/91a: “No son did Allah beget - - -”. Perhaps not. But if Islam still says that Allah = Yahweh, it is sure that the Bible says that Jesus called Yahweh his father many times and to MANY listeners. (And we have found far fewer mistakes in the Bible - and especially in NT - than we have found in the Quran, even though we red also the Bible with critical eyes). And: Also the Quran tells Jesus was honest. And finally: Both science and Islam have clearly shown that the Bible is not falsified - in spite of Islam's never documented claim. (According to our latest leafing through the Bible, Yahweh is called the father of Jesus minimum 204 times and Jesus the son of Yahweh minimum 89 times in that book. Roughly half the times this is said by Jesus).

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THERE IS ONE STRONG FACT CONNECTED TO JESUS AND THE OTHER OLD JEWISH PROPHETS: ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THEY ALL WERE GOD MUSLIMS - AN IMPOSSIBILITY IF THEIR CLAIMED HOLY BOOKS FROM ALLAH WERE FALSIFIED (studying falsified books in case made them prophets of something different from Islam) + THE RELIABLE PROPHETS HAD WARNED AGAINST THE FALSIFICATIONS WHEN THEY LIKE CLAIMED RECEIVED CORRECT COPIES FROM ALLAH, WHICH NONE DID CONCERNING THE HOLY SCRIPTURES. THUS THE CLAIMED FALSIFICATION OF ALSO OT CANNOT HAVE HAPPENED UNTIL AFTER JESUS (F.X. EZRA COULD NOT HAVE FALSIFIED OT, LIKE SOME MUSLIMS CLAIM - IF HE HAD, JESUS HAD RECEIVED WRONG INFORMATION AND HAD BEEN NO GOOD MUSLIM, OR WARNED AGAINST THE FALSIFICATIONS WHEN HE RECEIVED HIS CLAIMED CORRECT COPY FROM ALLAH). THIS IN ADDITION TO THAT THE BOOKS WERE SENT DOWN (DIRECTLY) FROM ALLAH TO THE PROPHETS, ACCORDING TO THE QURAN, AND ERRORS IN THEM THEREFORE SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. ALL THE OLD GOOD MUSLIM PROPHETS INCLUDED JESUS THUS MUST HAVE HAD CORRECT HOLY BOOKS - THE OLD JEWISH SCRIPTURES/OT. IF NOT F.X. JESUS HAD BEEN TEACHING WRONG THINGS, WHICH HE DID NOT DO ACCORDING TO THE QURAN (and if the scrolls he read from in the synagogues had differed from what he received from Heaven, he had told about it - if not he was a bad Muslim). THE ONLY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION HERE IS THAT ALSO NO PART OF THE OLD SCRIPTURES - OT - CAN HAVE BEEN FALSIFIED UNTIL AFTER JESUS TIME.

BUT THERE EXIST PLENTY OF MANUSCRIPTS AND FRAGMENTS OLD ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT OT WAS NOT SIMILAR TO THE QURAN AT THAT TIME!!! IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE SCRIPTURES OF TODAY!!! SEE F.X. THE QUMRAN SCROLLS FROM 150 - 50 B.C.

In addition there is the problem: How in case make Jews and Christians agree on what to falsify and on what new texts to use when they falsified (parts of) the Quran into OT??? And how to make ALL Jews spread over large parts of the world unprotestingly accept the new and falsified holy scriptures - and destroy all the old copies so thoroughly that not one piece of any of them has been found later? This in addition to the claimed falsification of NT and all the impossibilities and improbabilities which have to be "explained" away concerning the claimed falsification of NT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE CLAIMS MUHAMMAD MADE UP.

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*249 25/2e: “- - - nor has He (Allah*) a partner in his dominion - - -”. Well, if Allah should happen to be just another name for Yahweh: In the very old Hebrew religion there was a female deity - Yahweh’s Amat (woman or wife). (Source: New Scientist among others). In the very masculine society there, she simply was forgotten. And then there is the question of Jesus and of the Holy Spirit, which even the Quran mentions a few (3?) times - are they a kind of partners? At least underlings. (But here it most likely means no wife/woman, and thus no mother for Jesus.)

####250 29/46f: “- - - our (Muslims*) and your (Jews and Christians*) god is one - - -”. This is not correct unless he is schizophrenic, as too many fundamental aspects are too different between the two teachings. To mention a few points (there are MANY more):

Islam: The New Testament:
Do not kill without a good reason. Do not kill.
To wage war is a religious duty. Do not kill.
An eye for an eye. Turn the other cheek.
You cannot carry another’s burden. Carry your fellow man’s burden.
Religion shall run the country. My land is not of this world.
Be killed for Allah and go to Paradise. Become like a child to go to Paradise.
Paradise = Earth-like luxury plus women Paradise = Heaven for your soul.
(for women = Earth-luxury and a share of the husband). (for women = Heaven for your soul.)
Paradise = resurrected body. Paradise = the soul lives on.
Do not lie except for good reason. Do not lie.
Do not mourn the unbeliever. “The lost lamb”.
Break an oath and pay expiation for it. To break any oat is a severe sin.
Al-Taqiyya – Muslims’ lawful lie. Do not lie.
Kitman - Muslims' lawful half-truth. Do not lie.
To rob and steal may be “lawful and good”. Do not steal.
To rape a female slave is “lawful and good”. So immoral that it is not even mentioned.
Help others to gain merit in heaven. Help others because they need it – and gain merit in heaven.
 

*A similar sentence exists also in Islam (in Hadiths), but it is so well hidden and forgotten and sleeping, that we never have heard it quoted even from Muslims trying to prove what a benevolent religion Islam is.

(For those who do not know: Jesus said that if someone hit you on one cheek, turn the other towards him = answer bad with good. And: Jesus said that a good shepherd would search for a lost sheep = to save a lost soul is very valuable, and there is reason to mourn the not saved ones.)

But these are some of the teachings – some of the fundamental points. And it is worth repeating here that science (and even more so Islam) has proved that the Bible is not falsified – a few mistakes, but no falsifications. This in spite of the Quran’s and Islam’s never documented claims of much falsification. Islam will have to show proofs for the claims if they wants to be believed – proofs they have been unable to find in 1400 years. (We also reminding you that the only other alternative is that something is seriously wrong with the Quran and hence with Islam, as no god makes a book full of errors, etc.). Only Islam says it is the same god - and they are wrong, unless the god is mentally ill. Similar claims in 2/139 -3/64 – 42/13.

We know both religions have been misused – though with one serious difference: Christ has been misused in contradiction to his teachings, Islam very often in accordance with its teachings, because of the Quran’s often bloody religion and lack of real moral on too many points. The sentences above are some of the teachings – some of the fundaments.

Also see separate chapter in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran".

Only Islam says it is the same god - and they are wrong, unless the god is mentally ill.

251 42/13b: “The same religion has He (Allah*) established - - - (as that of Noah*)”. That Noah was a good Muslim is one of the nearly legion numbers of never proved claims in the Quran - nothing of any essence in the book is proved, only claims and as loose words, often unlikely ones, often highly unlikely ones, sometimes clearly wrong ones (may be 3ooo errors of different kinds in the book - ca. one error for every second verse - must be close to world record for a claimed holy book.

252 42/13c: “The same religion has He (Allah*) established - - - (as that of Noah*)”. Contradicted by the Bible, which says Noah's god was Yahweh, and Yahweh's religion is a lot different from Allah's". But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

**253 42/13d: “The same religion (Islam*) has He (Allah*) established for - - - Abraham, Moses, and Jesus”. Neither the Quran, nor Hadith, nor Islam has brought the slightest valid proof for this - only words and claims. And at least when it comes to Jesus, it is provably wrong. The teachings of Jesus and the ones of Muhammad are fundamentally too different. Of course Muslims say that the Bible is falsified and that scriptures have disappeared – that is the only way out they have. But they have yet to prove the first and to prove that scriptures documenting all the points Islam says are wrong in other religions, have disappeared and none reliable and impossible to misunderstand ones have reappeared among the relevant 13ooo - 13ooo scriptures + the some 32ooo with references to the Bible which exists. “Strong claims need strong proofs.” This even more so as science by means of all the old scriptures has proved that the Bible is not falsified – a fact that is extra clear for NT. And as central: Islam has proved the same even stronger by being unable to find one single proved falsification among all those scriptures. You bet they had told about it if they had found even one. As for Abraham and Moses being good Muslims, for one thing that is strongly contradicted by the Bible, which tells their god was Yahweh, and for another thing: As mentioned no traces from Islam older than 610 AD has ever or anywhere been found - not even by Islam - - - and Moses lived some 2000 years before, and Abraham some 2500 years before.

#############There also is another hard fact here concerning Jesus: Jesus lived deep inside the times of written history. We know for sure that there was no religion like Islam, no god like Allah, and no book similar to the Quran anywhere in the Roman Empire not before Jesus and not until several centuries after him - not until after 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission. This is an indisputable historical fact. (May be one cannot prove the details of Jesus' teaching from historical sources outside the Bible, but one easily can prove that the Mosaic religion and not something like Islam was the religion among the Jews at the time of Jesus, and thus that the basis for Jesus' teaching was the Mosaic religion and not something like Islam). This means Jesus was no Muslim. Another historical fact is that also early Christianity is known from such sources, and it had no similarity to Islam - and the same for the Jewish religion. The claim that Jesus was a Muslim and preached Islam thus is proved by written history to be made up claims (claims also never proved true by Islam - like normal for Muhammad's very many claims).

254 42/13f: “(The Bible brings*) The same religion (Islam*) - - - that We (Allah*) have sent by inspiration to thee (Muhammad*) - - -”. Is it really an omniscient god who has initiated a religion based on a book with may be 3ooo cases of mistakes, invalid logic, invalid arguments, invalid "signs" and "proofs", plus lots of contradictions, etc.? Definitely no. See 40/75 and 41/12 above and many others.

The under lying claim is that the old Jews were Muslims, but falsified the religion and the Bible to get a better life here on Earth. But how could leaving a religion permitting stealing/robbing, dishonesty, deceit, extortion, etc. give anyone a richer life? The Hadiths confirms that Muslims grew rich and powerful that way, and it had worked the same way for f.x. the Jews if they had gone for economic gain and had such a religion. The argument that the Jews and Christians falsified their religion to have a richer life here on Earth, thus is killed by reality. Worth thinking over.

255 43/27a: "- - - Him (Allah*) who made me (Abraham*) - - -". This interesting claim that Allah created the humans you meet many places in the Quran. The reason why it is interesting, is that neither Muhammad nor Allah ever was able to prove anything about creation, whereas Yahweh proved his power on that point many times - if either the Quran or the Bible tells the truth about just that (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Matt. 27/52, Mark 5/41, Luke 7/15, John 11/44, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10, and the Quran 3/49b, 5/110i).

256 43/27b: "- - - He (Allah*) will certainly guide me (Abraham*) - - -". Allah could guide nobody unless he existed and was something supernatural.

257 43/27c: "- - - He (Allah*) will certainly guide me (Abraham*) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says that Abraham's god was Yahweh. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

###258 43/59c: "- - - We (Allah*) made him (Jesus) an example - - -". According to the Bible the god of Jesus was Yahweh, and in a way worse for the Quran: We are now on safe historical ground. It is well documented that the god of the Jews at this time was Yahweh - and that the religion at this time was so strong among the Jews, that Jesus had gotten few followers if he tried to talk about a known pagan god, al-Lah - from a neighboring country. Not to mention that if he had tried to mix him with Yahweh, the establishment had had him executed much earlier. The claim that a god with a teaching like in the Quran was dominant in Israel, was and is not only contradicted by the Bible, but historically wrong. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

###259 43/63c: “(Jesus said*): therefore fear Allah - - -”. As said before: If Jesus had been a missionary for the known polytheistic god al-Lah from a not too far of country, he for one thing had got very few followers in the at that time strictly monotheistic Israel, and for another thing he had been killed by the clergy long before - especially if he all the same got a big following like he really got. This is a tale told by someone who knew the religious and political situation in Israel around year 30 AD badly. Besides it is historical facts that the god of the Jews at that time was Yahweh, and that the teaching had very little to do with the one in the Quran. Also see 43/63b just above.

#260 43/63d: “(Jesus said*): fear Allah and obey me - - -.” This is really is Muhammad’s slogan – he wanted power, that much is easy to see from the Quran, and religion/Allah was his platform of power; Self-centered. Selfish? And many places in the Quran it become clear that Muhammad wants everyone to believe he was a “normal” (but top) prophet (actually he was no real prophet, as he did not have the gift of making prophesies – see chapter about Muhammad in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" or 9/885 above.), and then it was nice if Jesus used the same words like Muhammad and showed this was normal ways for prophets to talk. But one of the really – and one of many - fundamental differences between Jesus and Muhammad (and for that case between f. x. Buddha and Muhammad and also between most of the Jewish prophets and Muhammad), was that Jesus was absolutely not interested in power on this Earth. Consequently this slogan that Muhammad very frequently used to secure his power, was meaningless for Jesus. (The Quran does not oppose this fact: That Jesus preached, but he did not seek power on Earth.)

Also the verse below can be taken as part of a strategy for reducing Jesus from something special to something ordinary – at least an ordinary prophet – to make it easier for Muhammad to be number one (another obvious example: During Muhammad’s claimed trip to heaven, Jesus lived in the lowest of the prophets’ heavens – heaven number 2. Whereas other known prophets from the Bible lived higher up and closer to the god, and Muhammad was to be given place in the 7. heaven, the closest one to the deity):

Finally there is the death and resurrection of Jesus. If that really happened, Jesus clearly was at least one division higher up than Muhammad. So according to Muhammad and the Quran it did not happen - even though the Quran one place tells that Jesus died.

261 43/64a: “(Jesus said): For Allah, He is my Lord and your Lord - - -”. See 43/63a and 43/63b above. We may add that starters of new religions or sects often try to “high-jack” well known persons or situations to use it in their teachings. This may look like such a case.

262 43/84b: "It is He (Allah*) Who is God in heaven and God on earth - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says this belongs to Yahweh, not to Allah. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

263 53/52a: "And - - - (Allah destroyed*) the people of Noah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible which says this was done by Yahweh (Muhammad claimed and Islam claims that this just was 2 names for the same god, but their teachings and the basic ideas behind the religions are too different for that to be possible.) But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

264 53/53: "And He (Allah*) destroyed the Overthrown Cities (of Sodom and Gomorrah)". One thing is that the Bible tells this was done by Yahweh, but in addition it is contradicted by the Bible on how it was done - brimstones (see 11/82c) in the Quran instead of burning sulfur in the Bible. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

Some Muslims try to explain this the destruction with a volcanic eruption. Burning sulphur like told in the Bible may come from a volcano, but not brimstone like told in the Quran. Brimstone is hardened clay, and clay ONLY is made in water.

Besides science tells that the main volcanic activity in Arabia was over 400ooo years ago.

265 54/9c: "- - - they (the people of Noah*) rejected Our (Allah's*) servant - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says Noah was the follower of Yahweh, not of Allah (though Muhammad wrongly claimed the two were the same god - like normal for Muhammad without the slightest proof). Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

266 54/13a: "And We (Allah*) bore him (Noah*) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

267 54/34a: "We (Allah*) sent against them (Sodom and Gomorrah*) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says the god involved was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

268 54/39b: "So taste ye (the people of Sodom and Gomorrah*) My (Allah's*) Wrath and My Warning". Contradicted by the Bible, which says it was Yahweh's wrath, not Allah's. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

269 54/41a: "To the people of Pharaoh, too, aforetime, came Warners (from Allah)". The Bible claims Moses and Aaron - the only two known ones - came from Yahweh. And we remind you that in spite of the Quran's never documented claims about the opposite, the fundamental and deep differences in their teachings prove that those two are two different gods (if one or both exists - Yahweh may have proved his existence, Allah not).

Also: There has never been found any traces from a religion like Islam, a god like Allah, or a book similar to the Quran older than 610 AD in Egypt - likely the country in the world with the longest written history.

270 60/4k: "- - - though I (Abram/Abraham*) have no power (to get) aught on thy (other people's*) behalf from Allah". One more parallel to Muhammad himself. There are many such parallels in the Quran - more or less all real or claimed prophets the book tells about, are such parallels - there is no doubt(?) Muhammad must be a normal parallel to real or claimed real prophets!

271 60/4l: "- - - from Allah". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells Abram's/Abraham's god was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

272 60/4n: "In Thee (Allah*) we (Abram/Abraham and other Muslims(!!)*) we trust - - -". Anyone trusting Allah is in for a surprise if he does not exist (not to mention if he belong to the dark forces) or is wrongly described among all the errors in the Quran - especially if there is a next life, especially since Islam is a kind of religion few good or benevolent gods will accept.

Another point is that as mentioned according to the Bible Abraham's god was Yahweh, not Allah (who at that time - if he "existed" that early - likely was the pagan god Il (the earliest known name for Allah). Actually we roughly know the story of Il, later named al-Ilah, later named al-Lah, later named Allah. He through all times until 610 AD when Muhammad took him over, was a pagan, polytheistic god - never until 610 AD and Muhammad he was a monotheistic one.)

***273 61/6d: “- - - (Jesus said*) I am the Messenger of Allah - - -”. Contradicted by the Bible and by reality. If Jesus had said something like this about the known polytheistic god al-Lah from a not too distant foreign country, for one thing he had not got many followers, and for another: The clergy had at once had an excuse for having him killed – and long before they really did. This verse is composed by someone not knowing the religious and political realities in Israel around 30 AD. Similar claims in 4/157 - 5/72 – 5/117. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

####But remember that we now are in times of written history. There were no book like the Quran, no god like Allah, and no religion like Islam anywhere in or near the Roman Empire (of which Israel was a part) at the time of Jesus - not until more than 600 years later. But we know for sure that at that time Yahweh and the Mosaic religion ruled the Jews at that time. The Quran is very wrong here - documented by written history.

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#####274 61/6f: “- - - (Jesus said: I am*) giving the Glad Tiding of a Messenger to come after Me, whose name shall be Ahamad (another form of the name Muhammad*) - - -”. This is quite a funny verse, as you meet Muslims who insist it is copied from the Bible. Worse: You find it quoted in books like it was from the Bible, without a word about the fact that it only is to be found in the Quran. There is not anything remotely like this in the Bible, and neither in the some 13ooo - 13ooo relevant scriptures or fragments found through the times older than 610 AD – included some 300 from the Gospels, and also not in the some 32ooo other relevant known manuscripts older than 610 AD (when Muhammad started his preaching) with quotes from the Bible. #####It is only to be found in the Quran. #####Also you do not find a single case in OT where a prophesy about distant future mentions a clear name (sometimes title or something, but never a clear name). But here - o wonder! - is most conveniently the unmistakable name given - an Arab version of the name Muhammad even!

##########"The only place Muhammad is mentioned in the Bible, is in the Quran". A most ironic and to the point sentence.

And it is worth remembering that it is quite common for makers of new sects or religions to connect themselves to a mother religion and bend that one some to fit one's purpose - or even high-jack (parts of) it. The founder of the Amaddijja-Muslims is really one of the latest examples, and Mormons tell Jesus visited America during his last days on earth. Such things give roots, credence and weight to a movement.

Jesus told his disciples that the Holy Spirit (also named the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of the Lord, or only the Spirit, etc. – like Allah and like Muhammad it has more than one name) should come shortly - which it did. And he told he himself should return once upon a time “to judge the living and the dead“. But not a single word about any other - and not to mention one with a foreign name the Jews would question.

We know of one place where Muhammad is mentioned: In the Barnabas Gospel - a most apocryphal (made up) book - according to one of our sources it may even be written at the caliph’s court in Baghdad (not very strange if it then mentions Muhammad), but it also may be one of the many falsifications made by Muslims in Spain from around 800 AD on. You need to make up proofs only if you have no real ones. Muslims sometimes tell you this “gospel” is a real one.

But the standard explanation Muslims follow - without proofs: The Bible is falsified and names indicating Muhammad taken out by bad conspiracies - people in that area has a strong tendency to look for and believe in conspiracy theories (We have a private theory that the reason is that they never in their history have been used to relatively reliable information). But in that case:

  1. The life of the first Christians had been entirely different - and their time scale had been entirely different if any of them had heard about another prophet to be expected before the return of Jesus “to judge the living and the dead”. (They would know the return of Jesus would take much longer time than they now believed, to give the “prophet” time to work. They thought Jesus would be back in a short time - some years.)
  2. The contents of the NT had been different - not least the letters had been different. It simply is a fairy tale made up to strengthen Muhammad’s claim to be a prophet - like some other self-proclaimed prophets. (Rather ironic, as he did not have the gift of being able to make prophesies – he did not even claim or pretend he had it – he was no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something perhaps, but not a real prophet).

We also remind you that both science and Islam strongly have proved that the Bible is not falsified - some errors, but not one proved falsification.

  1. The Muslims only back their claim on one Greek word used in the Bible: “parakletos” which means “helper” – Jesus before he left Earth, promised to send his disciples a helper – the Holy Spirit (which arrived some days later – at Whitsun - according to the Bible (a story that is not negated in the Quran)).
  2. Islam claims “parakletos” is a misspelling for another Greek word “periklytos”, which means “the highly praised”. In Aramaic “the highly praised” means “Mawhamana” of which the second part of that word as a verb is “hamida” (= to praise) and as a noun “hamd” (law or praise). If you then continue to Arab the names Muhammad and Ahmad (another version of the name Muhammad (61/6, 7/157 (no name) - but ONLY claimed in the Quran)) both derives from “hamida” or “hamd” according to Islam. Which to Islam and all Muslims is a strong proof for that “parakletos” in reality is misspelled and means “Muhammad” in the Gospel after John (f. x. John 14/16). Not a very convincing proof to say the least of it – and in addition:
  3. The word “periklytos” which Islam claims is misspelled – the only possibility they have to get the answer they want and desperately need (they need it desperately, because the Quran clearly tells that Muhammad is foretold also in the NT - - - and he is not there) – does not exist at all in the Bible, not to mention in the NT. It is not used one single time.
  4. The word “periklytos” also is not found one single time in all the some 13ooo relevant manuscripts and fragments science knows from before 610 AD. Neither in one single place or time, nor in one single of the many manuscripts.
  5. Worse: Neither is it found in any of the some 300 copies or fragments of Gospels older than 610 AD or in other manuscripts referring to the Gospels.
  6. Neither is it found in quotes from the Bible found in some 32ooo other old manuscripts.
  7. The word “periklytos” simply never was used in the old scriptures which became the Bible. The word that is used everywhere is “parakletos” – “helper” (and a helper was what the disciples needed - not somebody 500+ years into the future, and with another religion). This goes for each and every known copy.
  8. Beside: How could it be possible to falsify – as Islam claims – the same word the same way in thousands and tens or hundreds of thousands of manuscripts – and how to find each and every “periklytos” in each and every of the many different manuscripts – spread over all those countries? And how not to make contradictions among the many different manuscripts and texts? – and on top of all: In a time with little travel and hardly any media. Islam has a tough job proving their claim – and remember: It is the ones making claims who have to prove them, not others to disprove it. This often is forgotten when Muslims throw loose claims and statements around.
  9. There also are huge numbers (some 32ooo) of non-religious manuscripts or fragments which refer to the Bible. Whenever this word pops up in those manuscripts it without exception is written "parakletos". Islam must explain how it was possible to find and to falsify all these papers, and not least how it was possible to erase the ink and write another word in such a way that it is impossible for modern science to find traces of falsifications.
  10. Arabs think it is logical that parakletos and periklytos may be mixed – in the old Arab alphabet and scriptures this just meant that someone had guessed the not written vowels wrong. But not so for Greek, as Greek already, and a long time before had a complete alphabet, where all letters were written. This kind of misspelling therefore is not logical or even possible in Greek. (NT was originally written in Greek.)
  11. They also sometimes claim the Gospels were written in Aramaic, and that the misspelling happened before it was translated to Greek. This in spite of that even Muslim scholars know the Gospels originally was written in Greek, and that this "explanation" is a made up one.

  12. Muslims try to explain that it could not be a question of the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit already was present. And the Holy Spirit was present or visited Jesus. But it was not part of the disciples – and that was what happened at Whitsun according to the Bible: They each got personal contact with the Spirit, and that is quite a change of a situation.
  13. Muslims also say that as two different names for the Spirit is used (the Spirit of Truth and the Holy Spirit (you actually also have the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of God (1. Mos. 1/2), the Spirit of the Lord, and only the Spirit)) it proves that John does not mean the Holy Spirit, when he uses the name “the Spirit of truth” – “the Spirit of truth” must mean the Muhammad who lied to his followers even in the Quran (“miracles will make no-one believe”, f. x.) and advised his people to even break their oaths if that gave a better result, etc. In addition to all the other wrong logic here, this claim is just as logical as to claim that the 99 names of Allah means there are 99 different gods, or the many names of Muhammad means there were many of him. The Spirit simply is named by different names (at least 6) – and in addition it is absolutely clear that in the entire Bible there only is one spirit with a special connection to Yahweh.
  14. There only is one conclusion – the conclusion science has made long ago – possible to make from this: This Islamic claim – like many others – either is a lie (an al-Taqiyya?) or wishful thinking. And still “the raisin in the sausage” is not mentioned:
  15. Jesus promised his disciples a helper – a parakletos. If he had meant Muhammad, how could Muhammad be their helper when they were all dead 500 years before he was even born?? It simply is nonsense or wishful thinking.
  16. Further the spirit according to the same verses in the Bible that Muslims quote, could not be seen. Muhammad was not difficult to see.
  17. And another “raisin”: Also in the same verses it is said that the Spirit should be with them forever. Muhammad definitely was not with them forever – he was not even with them.
  18. Not to mention: How do you make Jews and Christians agree on what and how to falsify the Bible? - f.x. the foretelling about Messiah/Jesus? - and when did they do it? Muslims like to blame Nicaea, but for one thing the agenda for that meeting is well known, and "adjustments" of the Bible was not even mentioned (but some Muslims in 2009 or 2010 screamed that they could prove that 56 points (if we remember the number correctly) in the Bible had been changed at that meeting - the word "proofs" sometimes come easy to some Muslims), and as bad: There was not one single representative for the Mosaic (Jewish) religion present.
  19. In the thousands of manuscripts older than 610 AD - the first point of time when Christians (and also the Jews) could get a reason for such a falsification - how was it possible to erase the word parakletos with the primitive means of that time, and fill in the word periklytos instead, in such a way that modern science are unable to find physical traces from the erasing, unable to find chemical differences in the ink that was used, and unable to see any difference of the letters (all people write differently)?
  20. As for other claimed falsification: The Bible has 4-5 times as much text as the Quran. One has to use the same writing material, and only that, because - what they did not know - today we easily can find the age of the writing material. In the two books there only is one sentence - six words in Psalm 37/29 - which is identical = everything had to be erased and written again. How to write 4-5 times as much texts on the same parchment, papyrus or whatever?
  21. Where smaller quotes in other relevant scriptures had to be falsified: How to place on average 4-5 times as much texts on a patch of erased "paper" and still use the same size of letters, so as not to show that "here is something wrong"?
  22. When falsifying, how to make the handwriting identical to the old one?
  23. When falsifying, how to get exactly the same ink? - differences are easy to see today.

  24. How to find each and every scripture and letter on 3 continents to falsify?
  25. How to make each and every owner accept to have their cherished holy papers and books falsified?
  26. How afterwards make them believe in scriptures they knew were falsified?
  27. How to find enough scribes to do such an enormous job? - it f.x. takes months just to handwrite one Bible.

  28. Who paid for this enormous operation? - the church of those times was not very rich.
  29. How to perform such an enormous operation without starting tongues wagging, and cause owners to hide their holy scriptures to save them from such destruction?
  30. How to perform such an enormous operation without one single historian got a whiff about it and noticed something?
  31. Search and you will find more such hopeless questions.
  32. There only is one conclusion – the conclusion science has made long ago – possible to make is this: This Islamic claim – like many others – either is a lie (an al-Taqiyya?) or wishful thinking. Well, one more: This whole scenario is a hopelessly naive "explanation". Muhammad also never tried to explain thing, he only stated the claim - many times. And people believed it!!
  33. AND THERE IS ONE MORE VERY STRONG FACT: ISLAM HAS NEVER FOUND ONE SINGLE PROVED FALSIFICATION.

Wishful thinking? – or a bluff? – or a lie/al-Taqiyya? At least science long ago as mentioned has proved from the old manuscripts that it is not true – the Bible never was falsified. Worse: Islam has proved the same because they, too, have been unable to find such a proved falsification in spite of intensive searching. (But Islam HAS to find him somewhere there, if not the Quran is wrong on this for Islam very essential point - and then something is seriously wrong with Islam). Also see 7/157.

(We should mention that also the above mentioned apocryphal (made up) “Gospel of Barnabas” sometimes still is used as an argument, because there Muhammad is clearly mentioned (no surprise if the theory that it is made at the court in Baghdad is correct. The same if it is one of the many Islamic forgeries from Spain from around 800 AD and somewhat later). The sorry fact, though, is that a made up gospel is a made up gospel (there are a number of them) – and it tells something about Islam’s lack of arguments that they continue to insist that may be it is not made up, and therefore is a proof for Muhammad, when science is unanimous: It is one of the false ones. The only thing the “Gospel of Barnabas” in reality proves, is that Islam has no real documentation for their claim that Muhammad is mentioned in the NT, as they have to resort to this kind of argumentation). Had real proofs existed, they had used them instead.

And the most solid proof for that the Bible is not falsified, comes from Islam itself. If they had found one single solid proof for falsification of the Bible among all the many thousands of old manuscripts which exist, THEY HAD SCREAMED TO HOLY HEAVEN ABOUT IT – and no-one has till now heard such a scream – not even after 1400 years!!!.

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275 69/11a: "We (Allah*) - - - carried you (mankind), it the floating (Ark)". Contradicted by the Bible, which says that the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

276 69/12: "That We (Allah*) might make it (the survival of the humans in the Ark*) a Message - - -". It is no message from Allah if the involved god was Yahweh - and even more so if Allah did not exist.

277 71/1a: "We (Allah*) sent Noah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible: According to the Bible this was done by Yahweh, not by Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

278 71/3a: "- - - worship Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says the god of Noah was Yahweh, not Allah.

279 71/3b: "- - - fear Him (Allah*) and obey me (Noah*) - - -". This was one of Muhammad's demands, and then it was good psychology that other claimed prophets said the same - in the Quran even Jesus said this according to Muhammad, even though he normally just said "follow me", not "obey me" - something very different - according to NT. One more indication for that those two were not in the same religion. Also see 71/1-20 above.

280 71/27: "- - - Thy (Allah's*) devotees - - -". According to the Quran, Noah was a good Muslim. Contradicted by the Bible: According to the Bible his god was Yahweh. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

281 71/28d: According to Muhammad and the Quran, Noah prayed: "- - - to the Wrongdoers grant Thou (claimed to be Allah*) no increase but in perdition". This is claimed to be in a message from Allah. Compare this to NT - f.x. "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep" (Matt.18/12-14), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8/13) - and you have one more 100% for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of the moral rules.

282 79/22: "- - - (Ramses II was) striving hard (against Allah)". According to the Bible, the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah.

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