Allah in the Quran, Chapter 67

 

Chapter 67

WHY DOES THE OMNISCIENT ALLAH NEED TO TEST PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THEM?

 

(This chapter is closely related to "Why does Allah need witnesses to be able to evaluate them?" Take a look at that one, too.

001 Muhammad claimed that Allah was a good and benevolent god - and after a fashion he really was according to Muhammad's tales in Mecca (it changed shortly after he came to Medina and started as a highway-man and later robber baron). In Medina he, therefore, needed an explanation for why a good an benevolent god wanted his followers to go on raids and into wars and risk being hurt or killed. The main explanation - or "explanation" - he gave, and one you will see he gave very often, was that Allah needed to test people to find out what they were worth to him and related to the claimed next life.

002 But where is the rational explanation for, and where is the logic in claiming that an omniscient god = a god who knew everything already, needed to test people to find out things he according to the claim of omniscience already knew? Such a rational answer or any logic simply does not exist.

003 And to make things even more hopelessly worse: Add Allah's total predestination which is stated several places in the Quran: This means that Allah predestines that he has to test you. Then he predestines what you are to do to be tested. Then he predestines how you are to react during the test. Finally he predestines the outcome of the test. Then he evaluate you on the background of this and the predestined result.

004 Not even a theatre. Not even a farce.

005 It is very difficult for a rational thinker to understand how it is possible for Islam and for Muslims not to see this hopelessness. We can understand that naive primitives of the old deserts had too untrained brains to see it - or that the lust for booty made them not wanting to see it - but educated Muslims of more modern times - - -? But it is a fact that in most Muslim countries pupils and students are not or only to a little degree trained in critical thinking - perhaps because the Quran will not stand up to much such thinking?

006 ### BUT WHY IS ALLAH'S ONLY METHOD TO TEST HIS FOLLOWERS, TO SEND THEM ON RAIDS AND INTO WARS - WHY TO TEST ONLY THEIR ABILITY TO STEAL, SUPPRESS, AND KILL? #### AND WHY IS IT NECESSARY TO TEST THE MEN BUT NOT THE WOMEN?

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable is that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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007 2/143i: "- - - only to test - - -". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all decides everything in a human's life according to the Quran, need to test even his followers? If he did not know the answer, then he is not omniscient and the other way around.

008 2/155a: "- - - We (Allah*) shall test you (Muslims*) - - -." Why did Allah need to test the Muslims, if he was omniscient and on top of all decides/predestines everything, according to the Quran? - but if Muhammad or someone just made up the religion, this is a nice whip to maintain discipline.

009 2/214a: "Or do ye think that ye shall enter the Garden (of Bliss) without such (trials) - - -". Why are trials necessary if Allah is omniscient? - and even more so if he decides everything on beforehand - predestines everything?

010 3/140c: "- - - (so*) that Allah may know those that believe - - -". Why, why, and once more why: Why this "testing" and war if Allah is omniscient? - and even more so if he predestines absolutely everything according to his Plan like the Quran claims many places? Not to mention: Why does an omnipotent god need warriors to settle problems for him? There is no meaning in this sentence. But it gets a meaning if it was Muhammad who wanted warriors and needed an "explanation" for why there were ups and downs.

011 3/142a: “Did ye think that ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those of you who fought hard (in His cause) and remained steadfast?” You can come to heaven without being a warrior. But for one thing it is much easier for warriors – and a sure way if you are killed – and for another thing; if you were a brave warrior in this life, you ended in the best parts of Paradise with most luxury, plenty of women (Islam is mainly occupied with men) – and closer to Allah. Mighty incitements. But why does an omniscient god have to test his followers to find out what they are worth? - and even more so if he predestines everything, like the Quran claims many places?

012 3/142b: “Did you think ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those who fought hard (in His Cause) and remained steadfast?” But the literal meaning of the original text is: “- - - while Allah has not yet taken cognizance of those of you who have striven - - - and those who are patient in adversity.” Islam explains that as Allah knows everything, this in reality means that nothing – no real test – has taken place. But if Allah is omniscient, there does not exist one single reason for a test of anybody - especially so if he also predestines everything, like the Quran claims many places. And if Allah does not know how each and everybody will behave, he is not omniscient and clairvoyant. Islam’s explanation here is logically invalid. Do they not have something better – not the (sorry) usual stuff where they “explain” one piece of a complex question, and then tell “this is why” – and silently skip the other parts of the complex, which shows that the claim(s) or "explanation(s)" in reality is/are wrong or invalid? There is too much of that in Islam.

013 3/152h: "- - - to test you". In this case Muhammad is explaining away a human weakness with the claim that it was Allah's will. But why does an omniscient and predestining god need to test his followers? - actually the logic here is so hopeless, that it is an insult to the brain of the readers - only those can accept it who are very naive or mentally blind - or brainwashed.

014 3/154i: "But (all this (Battle of Uhud*) was) that Allah might test what is in your breast and purge what is in your hearts". But why does an omniscient god who on top of all decides and predestines everything according to the Quran - included the result of battles - have to test his followers? Where is the logic? There also is a strong contradiction between so close claims as 3/154i and 3/154j - a strong contradiction.

015 3/154j: "For Allah knoweth well the secrets of your hearts". Well, this is just the point: If this is true, why does he then have to test them in bloody battles? Also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below. There also is a strong contradiction between as close claims as 3/154i and 3/154j - a strong contradiction.

016 3/166c: "- - - in order that He (Allah*) might test the Believers - - -" Also the defeat at Uhud was claimed to be according to Allah's Plan - to test the warriors. But why - WHY - does an omniscient, predestining god need to test anyone when he knows everything before??!! There is no logic in it! Whereas if you think a cunning warlord uses such a story as an explanation and a whip to strengthen and renew the will to fight in his depressed, but believing and naive warriors - well, then there suddenly is logic in the tale.

It takes a lot of naivety to be able to believe that an omniscient and predestining god needs to test his followers to know what they are worth.

017 4/25e: "- - - Allah hath full knowledge about your Faith". Why then does he have to test people, included Muslims?

018 5/41j: "If anyone's trial is intended by Allah - - -". Why would an omniscient and predestining god need to try anybody - anybody at all? There is no logic in this.

019 5/48n; "- - - (His (Allah's*) plan is) to test you - - -". But why does an omniscient god who on top of all predestines everything, need to test his followers?!?!

020 5/94b: "Allah doth but make a trial of you - - -". But WHY does an omniscient, predestining god need to make a trial of you??!! There is no logic in this - not unless the Quran is a made up book, and Muhammad needs an explanation for hardship his followers meet.

021 5/94c: "- - - that He (Allah*) may test who feareth Him unseen - - -". See 94b just above.

022 6/53: "Thus did We (Allah*) try some of them (Muslims*) - - -". Once more: Why does an omniscient god need to try anyone? - he knows everything already, and especially if he predestines everything, like the Quran claims many places? - he can learn nothing from it. Exactly nothing. (But there is logic if it is Muhammad who needs to be able to explain hardship his followers meet.)

023 6/59d: “Not a leaf doth fall but with his knowledge - - -”. If Allah has so detailed knowledge about everything, why then does he have to test his followers and others?! - this even more so if it is true like the Quran claims, that Allah in addition decides and predestines everything!

024 6/165c: "- - - that He (Allah*) may try you (Muslims or people*) - - -". The never answered question: WHY does an omniscient and predestining god who according to the Quran knows every detail and innermost secrets about everybody, have to try anyone?!

025 7/6a: "Then shall We (Allah*) question those - - -". Why does an omniscient god need to ask questions, when he according to the Quran knows every detail already - and even has predestined everything?

026 7/129d: "- - - He (Allah*) may try you by your deeds". This is similar to Muhammad's standard explanations why Muslims met difficulties, not to mention when Muhammad wanted his followers to make raids and wars, and of course then it was psychologically wise to let Moses use such expressions, too, to show that Muhammad just did what other prophets did and said. But why does an omniscient, predestining god need to try anyone at all? - there is no logic in it - - - unless it was Muhammad who needed the warriors and an "explanation" for their hardship.

027 7/155e: "This is no more than thy (claimed to be Allah's*) trial - - -". Once more the question the Quran and Islam never answers: Why does an omniscient and totally predestining god have to try his followers? - there is no logic in this often repeated claim, which Muhammad used as an explanation for difficulties his followers met, and for why Allah wanted wars and bloodshed resulting in riches and power for Muhammad.

028 7/163e: "- - - a trial for them". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all predestines everything according to the Quran, need to test people?

029 7/168b: "We (Allah*) have tried them (people*) - - -". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all predestines everything according to the Quran, need to test people?

030 8/17b: (The fights are acts of Allah) "in order that He might test the Believers - - -". But why - why - should Allah need to test his Muslims if he is omniscient and knows everything on beforehand? - not to mention if he on top is omnipotent and decides everything before it happens? There is no logic in this. But if the real story was that Muhammad needed an "explanation" for why a mighty god wanted them to fight - in reality for Muhammad - then this sentence suddenly is easy to understand; it is unbelievable what you can make people believe, if they are naive or uneducated or both, not to mention if they want to believe from f.x. religious reasons or brain washing or to have an excuses to steal and enslave and rape women and children and to become rich.

031 8/28a: "- - - a trial - - -". But why does an omniscient god who knows absolutely everything, included your innermost thoughts, and who on top of all according to many places in the Quran predestines everything and every detail on Earth and in everyone's life, need trials of his people?!? There exists no logic in it - not unless it in reality was Muhammad who needed an explanation for why Allah wanted his followers to fight for Muhammad.

  1. As for predestination - Muhammad even came to stress predestination more and more as the years went by in Medina - one can speculate if the reason was that he needed warriors.
  2. And this is a serious point: THROUGH 1400 YEARS ISLAM HAS BEEN UNABLE TO EXPLAIN THE CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE STATEMENTS THAT MAN HAS FREE WILL, AND THE STATEMENTS THAT ALLAH DECIDES - AND PREDESTINES - EVERYTHING. THE MORE OR LESS OFFICIAL POINT OF VIEW (THOUGH NOT AMONG THE UNEDUCATED ONES WHO HARDLY UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM) IS THAT THE TWO STATEMENTS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO COMBINE, “BUT IT ALL THE SAME HAS TO BE TRUE AS, ALLAH SAYS SO IN THE QURAN”(!!!). ALSO THE SENDING OF PEOPLE TO HELL FOR A FAIR PUNISHMENT, COMBINED WITH THE “FACT” THAT ALLAH DECIDES EVERYTHING BY PREDESTINATION, IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMBINE WITH THE PRESUMPTION OF A BENEVOLENT AND/OR FAIR GOD. Some Muslims back paddle very much on the point of predestination and try to explain that it is not real predestination, without explaining what it then is - but the Quran is too clear on this.
  3. PREDESTINATION ALSO MAKE PRAYERS INVALID IN ISLAM. IF EVERYTHING IS PREDESTINED LONG TIME AGO, AND PREDESTINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALLAH'S PLAN - A PLAN NOBODY AND NOTHING CAN CHANGE, ACCORDING TO SEVERAL VERSES IN THE QURAN, AND WHICH THUS ALSO PRAYERS CANNOT CHANGE - TO PRAY FOR HELP OR ANYTHING FROM ALLAH THUS JUST IS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT.
  4. AND NOT TO FORGET: PREDESTINATION MAKES GOBLEDYGOOK OF THE MORAL IN PUNISHING OR REWARDING A PERSON FOR HIS/HER DEEDS - DEEDS PREDESTINED BY ALLAH.

032 8/39f: "- - - verily (it definitely is no proved verity/truth*) Allah doth see all that they (non-Muslims*) do". Why then does he have to test people? - Muslims and non-Muslims alike?

033 8/41k: "- - - the Day of Testing (in the battle of Badr*) - - -". But WHY does an omniscient and omnipotent and claimed benevolent god need to test people by making them kill each others, when he as an omniscient one knows everything, and as an omnipotent one makes a satirical joke of all tests because in his Plan he has decided all that will happen in the battle and everything else before and after it happens? The whole concept just is black humor and sadism. But if it was Muhammad who needed a way to explain away his need for battles to gain wealth for bribes and more power, then suddenly there is logic in it - people who want to believe, may believe even stories like this, especially if they are naive and/or uneducated.

Two small extra questions: Why did/do only men need to be tested? - and why is the main test Allah is able to utilize to send the men on raids or into wars?

034 9/16a: “Or think that ye (Muslims*) that ye shall be abandoned (by Allah and not be rewarded for going to war*), as though Allah did not know those among you who strive with might and main - - -.” Just go to war – it is sure that Allah will reward you for it (as he is the good and benevolent god of “the Religion of Peace”.) But if Allah knows everything, why - why - then his need to test even his followers?!!

035 9/49d: "- - - trial - - -". Why does an omniscient, predestinating good need to put his people through trials?

036 9/64a: "- - - But verily Allah will bring to light all that ye (bad people*) fear (should be revealed)". For one thing we here are back to the old fact that this cannot happen unless Allah really exists. And for another: in the entire history we have read or heard about not one single case where Allah has done this.

It definitely is no proved verity/truth. (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

And: If Allah knows all the bad - and god - things, why then does he have to test even his followers? There is no logic in the claimed need for such testing. #####Actually this dire need for testing is one of the strong proofs for that something is very wrong in the Quran.

037 9/126a: "See they (non-Muslims*) not that they are tried every year - - -." But why does an omniscient god have to try people, if he knows everything on beforehand? - and what value has a trial if Allah has already decided what is going to happen? - Allah decides and predestines everything according to the Quran. The only case where all this makes sense and logic, is if it in reality was Muhammad who had to find "explanations" for why raids for riches and power and wars for power were necessary.

038 10/14b: "- - - to see how ye (Arabs*) would behave". Where is the logic in such testing if Allah predestines everything, like the Quran states many places? - not to mention if Allah is fully clairvoyant and knows everything also in the future (because he predestined it?)!

039 10/40c: "- - - thy (people's*) Lord (Allah*) knoweth best those who are out for mischief". Obviously a warning. But if he knows, why then does he have to test everybody? Also see 2/233h above.

040 11/5a: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth what they (non-Muslims*) conceal - - - for He knoweth well the (innermost secrets) of the hearts". You will be better off in the next life if you are a good and obedient Muslim - and "they" will get their well deserved punishment. Good! But also see 2/233h above. If he knows everything, Why then his need to test even his followers? - and why only the men, and why only their ability to steal and suppress and kill?

041 11/7g: "- - - that He (Allah*) might try you, which of you is best in conduct". Why does an omniscient, predestining god need to try anyone?

042 11/31e: "- - - Allah knoweth best what is in their (peoples'*) souls - - -". See 2/233 above.

043 16/92d: "- - - Allah will test you (people*) - - -". See 8/28a above.

044 17/55c "It is your Lord (Allah*) that knoweth best all beings in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". If he then on top predestines everything like the Quran repeatedly claims, then why - why - does he have to test anybody at all? The logic does not add up - not unless it was Muhammad who needed an "explanation" for hardship and for his repeated calls to raids and war."

045 17/60c: "- - - but as a trial for men - - -". Why does an omniscient, predestining god need to try humans?

046 17/84b: "- - - (Allah*) knows best who it is that is best guided on the Way". But if Allah knows everything, why then 2/233h above?

047 18/7: "- - - in order that We (Allah*) might test them (people with a good life on Earth*) - - -". But why does a predestining, omniscient god need to test anyone? Also see 8/28 above.

048 18/12b: "- - - test - - -". Once more: Why does a predestining, omniscient god need to test anyone?

049 19/70a: "And certainly We (Allah*) know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein". Allah knows absolutely everything - - - but he needs books, records and tests. Believe it if you are able to. Also see 2/233h above.

050 20/52b: "- - - (Allah*) never errs, nor forgets - - -". Why then does he have to test people? And why does he need records?

AND HOW CAN ALL THE ERRORS IN THE QURAN BE EXPLAINED IF THIS IS CORRECT? (Only two possibilities: To lie/"explain" away, or Allah is not the one behind the book.)

051 20/85a: "- - - tested - - -". Why did a predestining, omniscient god have to test anyone?

052 20/131b: "- - - We (Allah*) test them (people*) - - -". The old question: Why does a predestining, omniscient god need to test anyone at all - - -.

##053 21/4a: "My (Muhammad's* Lord (Allah*) knoweth (every) word (spoken) in the heavens and on earth - - -". One of the very many never proved statements in the Quran. But why does he have to test - and what can he learn from the "tests" - if he already knows everything?

054 21/4d: "He (Allah*) is the one who heareth and knoweth (all things)". Why then does a predestining, omniscient god have to test even his followers? There is no logic in it - not unless the real story was that Muhammad wanted warriors and needed a way to explain his demands (plus explaining away hardship in life).

055 22/53a: "- - - a trial - - -". But why? No omniscient god needs a trial of anybody, as he knows everything - and even more so if he predestines everything like the Quran claims (but never proves). Also see 8/28a.

056 22/76a: "He (Allah*) knows what is before them and what is behind them - - -". Allah knows everything - but why then does he need to test even his followers?

057 23/30d: "- - - thus do We (Allah*) try (men)". But why does an omniscient god have to try men? - especially as he according to the Quran predestines everything, and thus knows everything on beforehand?

058 23/51d: "- - - I (Allah*) am well acquainted with (all) that ye do". Allah knows everything - and predestines everything. If he exists and is a god.

But if he knew everything, why then did he have to test and test even his followers? (######There are a number of things in the Quran - and in Islam - which are difficult to understand, if you try to use your brain - - - unless Islam in reality was made for Muhammad and not for Allah.)

059 24/19c: "Allah knows - - -". Then why f.x. 2/233h above and 35/38b below?.

060 24/32c: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth all things". Why did he then need records? And also see 2/233h above.

061 25/20c: "- - - a trial - - -". Why does an omniscient, predestining god need to put somebody through a trial? Also see 8/28a above.

062 27/6e: “(Allah is*) Wise and All-Knowing”. If he is all-knowing, why then does he have to test even his followers? And why only the men? - and only their efficiency in raiding, stealing, suppressing and fighting?

063 27/47: "- - - ye (the Thamud*) are a people under trial". Why did a predestining, omniscient god need to try people? Also see 8/28a.

064 27/74a: "And, verily, thy (humans'*) Lord (Allah*) knoweth all that their (humans'*) hearts do hide, as well as all they reveal". This is a reminder you meet in different forms many places in the Quran: Allah knows everything, so do not try to cheat. Also be a good and obedient Muslim so as not to end in Hell. But if you are a good and obedient Muslim, you can be glad because then you end in Heaven - if the Quran tells the truth - and because the bad ones who are better off than you will be punished in the next life - - - if the Quran tells the truth. Also see 2/233h above.

####But if Allah knows everything, then why - why - why does he have to test people? There is no logic in this - and even more so if he predestines everything (like the Quran claims several places) so that he knows the result on beforehand!

065 27/75b: "(Everything) is (recorded) in a clear record". But if he sees and knows everything - which he has to in order to be able to record it, why then 2/233h?

066 28/56c: "And He (Allah*) knows best those who receive guidance (become good Muslims*)". Why then does he have to test people?

067 28/69b: "And thy (Muslims') Lord (Allah*) knows all that their (peoples')hearts conceal - - -". But why then does a predestining, omniscient god need to test people - f.x. by sending them into war?

*068 29/2a: “Do men think - - - they will not be tested?” But why is it necessary to test anyone if Allah is omniscient and knows everything before? – yes, in spite of that he even decides everything before? (in spite of the claim that man has (limited?) personal freedom to decide – though even Islam is unable to explain how it possible to combine the statement that Allah decides everything before, with the statement that man has free will - full or partly - (not strange, as it is a version of the time travel paradox, and that paradox is proved unsolvable)) – if all this, then why are tests necessary to find an answer Allah already knows?

069 29/3a: "We (Allah*) did test those before them - - -". But why is it necessary to test anyone, if Allah is omniscient and knows everything before according to the Quran? – he even decides everything before (in spite of the claim that man has (limited?) personal freedom to decide – though even Islam is unable to explain how it possible to combine the statement that Allah decides everything before, with the statement that man has free will (not strange, as it is a version of the time travel paradox, and that paradox is proved unsolvable)) – if all this, then why are tests necessary to find an answer Allah already knows?

070 29/3c: "- - - Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false". See 2/233h above.

071 33/11a: "In that situation where the Believers tried - - -". Why - WHY -does an omniscient god need to try his followers? The question is quite different if the is an explanation Muhammad used for the price in difficulties and blood for his raids and wars.

072 34/21a: "- - - except that We (Allah*) might test a man - - -". There is no reason for an omniscient god to test anybody - and especially if the god on top of all decides and predestines everything.

073 34/48d: "- - - He (Allah*) that has full knowledge of (all) that is hidden". The well known reminder and warning: Allah sees everything, so be good and obedient - included obedient to Muhammad.

But the old fact: If he knew everything, there was no reason for testing people - and also not for all the errors in the Quran.

###074 37/63aa: "For We (Allah*) have truly (definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim*) made it (to eat the fruit of the zaqqum tree - a tree said to grow in Hell*) as a trial for the wrongdoers".#######One more strong indication for that Allah also is the creator and ruler of Hell. What then is left of the claimed good and benevolent god Allah?

075 37/106: "For this was obviously a trial". Why does an omniscient god who decides everything, need to test his followers? (A similar question may be asked about this episode and the Bible, but for one thing it is irrelevant here, as no matter what answer there, it will not change the question concerning Allah, and for another in the Bible Yahweh does not decide everything, and man has real free will.)

076 38/24d: "And David gathered that we had tried him - - -". Why should an omniscient god who on top of all decides everything, need to try anyone? (You may say the same about Yahweh, but there the situation is different, as humans have real free will, which makes it impossible for even a god to know what they will decide always in the future).

077 38/34a: "And We (Allah*) did try Solomon - - -". See 38/24c above.

078 39/49a: "Nay, but this is but a trial - - -". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all decides everything himself, have to try his followers? There is no logic in it.

079 44/33c: "- - - trial - - -". The Quran indicates a trial by Allah, but if this had been correct: Why does an omniscient and omnipotent god need to try even his followers?

080 47/4i: "- - - but (He (Allah*) lets you fight) in order to test you - - -". Why - why does an omniscient and omnipotent god need to test his followers - he knows everything and predestines everything!? As he then predestines also the outcome of tests - if not he does not predestine everything, like the Quran states many places - the claimed tests are totally meaningless. There is no logic in this sentence, unless it in reality is Muhammad who wants warriors and needs an explanation.

081 47/4j: "- - - but (He (Allah*) lets you fight) in order to test you - - -". There are so many ways of testing a person. Why did "the Religion of Peace" have to do it by raids and wars for wealth and slaves and power?!! There is no logic in this, too, unless the explanation is that in reality it was Muhammad who wanted warriors and needed to "explain" why "Allah wanted it".

082 47/26e: "But Allah knows their (non-Muslim's or hypocrites*) (inner) secrets". See 2/233h and 35/38b above.

083 47/31a: "We (Allah*) shall try you - - -". But why - why - why does an omniscient god have to try his followers? there is no logic in it - not unless this claim is a substitute for a real, but less popular reason, f.x. that Muhammad wanted warriors.

084 49/3e: "- - - their hearts has Allah tested for piety - - -". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all decides everything himself, according to the Quran, have to test his followers?

085 51/13b: "- - - tried (and tested) - - -". Why - WHY - does a predestining, omniscient god need to try and test people!???

086 57/6b: "- - - He (Allah*) has full knowledge of the secrets of (all) hearts". See 57/4h above - and not least: Why - why - then does he have to test his followers - f.x. by sending them to fight wars for Muhammad? - there is no logic in it. Not unless this is a substitute motif in reality hiding Muhammad's lust for war and riches (for "buying" followers - which he clearly did according to the Quran) and power.

087 57/25f: "- - - (so) that Allah may test who it is that will help, unseen, Him and His Messengers - - -". One of the big mysteries in the Quran, and one we have never met any Muslim able to or wanting to explain, is: Why does an omniscient, omnipotent and predestining god need to test his followers?! There is no sense in this claim.

088 64/15a: "Your riches and your children (children are the second kind of riches in Islam, therefore so many children*) may be but a trial - - -". But why does the omniscient god Allah, whom the Quran time and again and again claims knows everything, need to try his followers? - where is the logic? - - - if it is not Muhammad who wanted warriors and needed "explanations"? - in that case everything fits neatly.

089 66/3f: "- - - (Allah*) knows and is well acquainted with all things". The old enigma: Why then 2/233f above?

090 67/2b: "- - - that He (Allah*) may try which of you is best in deed - - -". But why does an omniscient, predestining god need to try anybody at all?!

091 68/17b: "Verily, We (Allah*) have tried them as We tried the People of the Garden - - -". But why does an omniscient god need to try people? - where is the logic?

092 68/17c: "- - - tried - - -". But the big enigma: WHY does an omniscient, predestining god who knows absolutely everything, have to try people? - there is no logic in it. (But if it was Muhammad who needed an "explanation" for why people were sent on raids for riches, etc. for Muhammad, then there suddenly is full logic.)

093 72/17a: "That We (Allah*) might try them (people*) - - -". Why does an omniscient and predestining god need to try people? - according to the Quran he knows absolutely everything?

094 72/28e: "- - - (Allah*) takes account of every single thing". If he takes account of every single thing, then he knows every single thing - then why 2/233h above?

095 76/2c: "- - - in order to try him (man*) - - -". There are questions Muslims never answer if they can evade it - and when forced to answer, they just produce claims or evasions. One of them is why does an omniscient and predestining god need to test people??!

096 82/12: "They (your guardian angels*) know (and understand) all that ye (humans*) do (and note down reports to Allah*)". The never answered question: Why then does Allah need to test even his followers if he knows everything already from other sources?

097 89/15a: "Now, as for man, when his Lord (Allah*) trieth him - - -". A trial only was possible if Allah exists (but if he does, a trial was possible no matter if Allah is a god or something else dressed up like a god - actually the last explanation in case is most likely, as there is no reason for an omniscient god to try anyone, as he knows everything already, and even more so if he also predestines everything).

098 100/11a: "- - - their Lord (Allah*) had been well acquainted with them - - -". = Allah knows everything. But why then 2/233h above?

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