Allah in the Quran, Chapter 53

 

Chapter 53

PRAYERS TO ALLAH

 

001 The Quran many places tells that prayers to Allah are good and efficient ways for betterments or forgiving, etc.

002 But if the Quran tells the truth when it several places states that Allah predestines everything, and predestines it according to his Plan, which nobody and nothing can change, how then can he satisfy even one prayer from even one human for forgiving (= changes punishment) or a betterment of some sort? It would mean a change to his Plan, and as said nobody and nothing - and "nothing" includes any prayer - can change that Plan!

003 Something is seriously wrong. Either the Quran is wrong on that point and Allah's Plan non-existing or changeable. Or the Quran is wrong on this point and prayers to Allah are valueless and meaningless as "nobody and nothing" can change Allah's Plan".

Also see the sub-chapters about reward, punishment, forgiving, and free will for man in this main chapter - they have the same problem.

####### Another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt and falsify it.

Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. #### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 known versions accepted by Islam of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions through the times) - is in case the correct one?

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If Allah has predestined everything according to his Plan, which nobody and nothing can change according to many points in the Quran, it is cheating and a parody to tell Muslims that prayers - or forgiving - may have an effect. It means changes to the unchangeable Plan. As serious: This also goes for punishment and reward; they change his Plan.

Similar for combining full predestination with even a little free will for man. In the non-material parts of existence, there are things impossible even for an omnipotent god - f.x. the laws of chaos see to that.

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty in words and deeds (stealing/looting, extortion, etc.) - even the gravest kinds: How reliable are that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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004 2/186d: "I (Allah*) listen to the prayers of every suppliant when he calleth on Me - - -". Only if Allah exists. And if he in addition is a god - not f.x. from the dark forces. And if he is behind the Quran. And if the Quran tells the full and only truth about this and about him.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem which really can have only one valid solutions, can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. F.x. in cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. Islam teaches differently. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1): Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. Islam is teaching differently. 2): The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other. Islam is teaching differently.)

Another fact: Today it is easy by means of statistical methods to check if prayers have any effect. (Let f.x. 1ooo persons each pray for one among 1ooo unknown persons sick or in other ways in need. compare the result after some time with a similar group of 1ooo who has not been prayed for, and see if there is a difference. If there is a positive difference, this would be a strong indication or perhaps even a proof for something - a proof Islam strongly and dearly needs, as they have not any proof for even a single of its central claims. But it has not even tried to make such a test. Why?)

005 3/38c: "- - - Thou (Allah*) art He that heareth prayer!" Even if we omit the fact that a Jewish priest - Zechariah was a priest in the Temple in Jerusalem - hardly would pray to Allah, but to Yahweh, there remains one fact: Allah only could hear prayers if he existed and if he in addition was a god. There only are Muhammad's claims for this - and Muhammad is not the most reliable of witnesses.

006 3/193d: "- - - take to Thyself (Allah*) our souls - - -". See 3/193c just above.

007 3/194a: "Grant us (Muslims*) what Thou (Allah*) didst promise unto us (Muslims) through Thy prophets - - -." The Quran claims that all the old prophets - 124ooo (= 620 at any time for 5ooo years or 12-15 for 160-200ooo years. No traces from them found. Believe it if you can.) Islam says (included the old Jewish ones) - are "their" prophets, and prophets in a long line leading up to Muhammad. But for this to be true, Muhammad's teachings, moral, ethics, etc. have to be in accordance with the corresponding ones of the old prophets - if one belongs to the same tradition from the same god, at least the main points of their teaching have to be similar and nothing contradicting. In this case these facts do not add up. Muhammad cannot be in the same line unless the god suddenly changed his mind very much on several points (especially around 622 - 624 AD when Islam changed from relatively peaceful to a pure religion of war and suppression and looting) - his teaching is very different from the known prophets. A fact few non-Muslims are aware of and no Muslims ever mention (most lay Muslims are not aware of this fact, but their scholars know it).

####008 4/32b: - - - but ask Allah for His bounty". Why? If Allah has predestined everything, prayers is a waste of time - nobody and nothing can change Allah's Plan according to the Quran.

This in reality is one more - but never mentioned - utmost severe contradiction in the Quran: If Allah has predestined everything according to his unchangeable Plan, like the Quran states several places, it is cheating and a parody to tell Muslims that prayers - or forgiving - may have an effect. Allah in case must change his Plan.

009 4/106a: "- - - the forgiveness of Allah - - -". Only 2 can forgive - the victim and a god. Thus Allah can forgive if he is the victim - which he never is unless he exists - or if he is a god. And if he in case can change his predestinations for you and his Plan.

Besides see 2/187d above.

##010 5/12e: "I (Allah*) am with you (the Jews*): if ye (but) establish regular Prayers - - -". There is no demand, request or even mentioning of a fixed number of prayers or fixed times for prayers in the Bible. As this is so essential to Allah that it is one of the pillars of Islam, but of no interest at all for Yahweh - pray when there is a reason or when you feel for it - the 5 fixed prayers of the Quran is one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god.

##011 7/55a: "Call on (pray to*) your (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) with humility and in private - - -". What is the idea of praying for anything in Islam? According to the Quran - and Hadiths - Allah has predestined every detail in your and everyone else's life according to his unchangeable Plan - a Plan "nobody and nothing" can change. Thus prayers can have no effect and can change nothing, and just is a waste of time and effort - a fact (if the stated predestination is correct - and if it is not, the Quran is wrong) no Muslim ever mentions or tries to explain.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem which really can have only one valid solutions, can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. F.x. in cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. Islam teaches differently. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1): Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. Islam is teaching differently. 2): The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other. Islam is teaching differently.)

Another fact: Today it is easy by means of statical methods to check if prayers have any effect. (Let f.x. 1ooo persons each pray for one among 1ooo unknown persons sick or in other ways in need. compare the result after some time with a similar group of 1ooo who has not been prayed for, and see if there is a difference. If there is a positive difference, this would be a strong indication or perhaps even a proof for something - a proof Islam strongly and dearly needs, as they have not any proof for even a single of its central claims. But it has not even tried to make such a test. Why?)

012 7/56c: "- - - call on (pray to*) Him (Allah*) - - -". What is the idea of praying for anything in Islam? According to the Quran - and Hadiths - Allah has predestined every detail in your and everyone else's life according to his unchangeable Plan - a Plan "nobody and nothing" can change. Thus prayers can have no effect and can change nothing, and just is a waste of time and effort - a fact (if the stated predestination is correct - and if it is not, the Quran is wrong) no Muslim ever mentions or tries to explain.

013 9/103c: "Verily thy (Muhammad's*) prayers are a source of security for them (good Muslims*) - - -". How is that possible? It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See 9/103a above.

014 10/12a: "When trouble toucheth a man, he crieth (prays loudly*) unto Us (Allah*) - - -. But when We (Allah*) have solved his trouble - - -". How is it possible to explain that Allah "solves trouble" because of prayers, when the Quran many places makes it 100% clear that Allah has predestine every detail of what happens on Earth according to his Plan, and that nothing and no-one, and thus no prayer from anyone, can change anything in that Plan?

####015 10/106a: "Nor call on any, other than Allah - - -". Why call on Allah when the Quran is very clear on that nobody and nothing - which includes prayers - can change his predestined Plan, and thus that also prayers just are a waste of time and effort, which can have no effect?! That prayers can have effect, is a contradiction "par excellence" if it is true that Allah predestines everything and does so according to an unchangeable Plan. One of the most serious of the many contradictions in the Quran in case. (And if full predestination is not true, where then is Islam?)

016 13/14a: “For Him (Allah*) (alone) is prayer in Truth - - -“. Yes, but only if Allah exists (and is the only god). There was a good reason why Muhammad demanded and glorified blind belief: There existed and exists no real proof and no documentation for the existence of Allah – or for that case for Muhammad’s connection to a god. Blind belief in Islam only is based on the words of a morally suspect man: Muhammad. (The real, historical Muhammad is only distantly related to the glorified saint Islam claims.) And a man with much to gain from making people believe in his new religion.

017 14/39e: "- - - the Hearer of Prayer (here indicated Allah*)!" One thing is that Allah can hear no prayers unless he exists. Another: Prayers what for? - if what the Quran tells that Allah predestines everything years and decades and more on beforehand, and that nothing can change his predestinations and Plan, prayers just are naive waste of time in Islam - they can change nothing.

*018 16/48c: “- - - Allah’s creations, (even) among (inanimate) things - how their (very) shadows turn round, from the right to the left, prostrating themselves to Allah and that in the humblest manner - - -”. Believe it or not: Even shadows pray to Allah - even though shadows just are lack of light = literally and utterly nothing. Besides "nothing" can neither give a religious prostration, nor humble itself without a brain and a mental process.

019 16/53c: "- - - when ye are touched by distress, unto Him (Allah*) ye cry with groans - - -". Why? If everything is predestined according to Allah's Plan which nothing and no-one can change, prayers mean nothing for what is going to happen - good or bad.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem which really can have only one valid solutions, can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. F.x. in cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. Islam teaches differently. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1): Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. Islam is teaching differently. 2): The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other. Islam is teaching differently.)

Another fact: Today it is easy by means of statistical methods to check if prayers have any effect. (Let f.x. 1ooo persons each pray for one among 1ooo unknown persons sick or in other ways in need. compare the result after some time with a similar group of 1ooo who has not been prayed for, and see if there is a difference. If there is a positive difference, this would be a strong indication or perhaps even a proof for something - a proof Islam strongly and dearly needs, as they have not any proof for even a single of its central claims. But it has not even tried to make such a test. Why?)

020 18/58a: "(Allah*) is Most Forgiving - - -." He can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god.

As for forgiving from Allah: Also see 2/187d and 67/9c above.

021 19/4e: "Praying (here wrongly indicated to Allah*) - - -". Why pray to Allah if everything is predestined, and according to his Plan which nobody and nothing can change, like the Quran states many places? Nobody and nothing can change Allah's predestined Plan, so what is then the idea with prayers?

022 19/47b; "- - - I (Abraham*) will pray to my lord (here indicated Allah*) for thy (his father's*) forgiveness - - -". Why? - if Allah predestines everything long before, and does so according to a Plan which nobody and nothing can change, like the Quran states many places, prayers have no meaning in Islam, as they cannot have any effect. A question Muslims never touch.

023 22/78j: "- - - regular prayers - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 23/9b above.

024 24/56a: "- - - regular prayers - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 23/9b above.

025 37/75c: "- - - We (Allah*) are the Best to hear prayers". Only possible - not sure, but possible - if Allah exists, is a major god, and is correctly described in the Quran. But the Bible means Yahweh is better - so much better that it does not even mention Allah or any of his followers.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem which really can have only one valid solutions, can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. F.x. in cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. Islam teaches differently. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1): Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. Islam is teaching differently. 2): The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other. Islam is teaching differently.)

Another fact: Today it is easy by means of statical methods to check if prayers have any effect. (Let f.x. 1ooo persons each pray for one among 1ooo unknown persons sick or in other ways in need. compare the result after some time with a similar group of 1ooo who has not been prayed for, and see if there is a difference. If there is a positive difference, this would be a strong indication or perhaps even a proof for something - a proof Islam strongly and dearly needs, as they have not any proof for even a single of its central claims. But it has not even tried to make such a test. Why?)

026 40/60a: "I (Allah*) will answer your prayers - - -".

But for the last 1400 years - and never before - and until today he has not given one single clear and indisputable answer. There have been coincidences, etc., but not one single unmistakable answer, unmistakably and proved from Allah. Not in 1400 years and much more! (If there had been even one single, Islam had broadcasted it in all media each and every time the question had cropped up. But it has never happened.

027 40/65c: "- - - call upon Him (Allah*) - - -". It may be worth a try. But he has never provably answered anyone between Muhammad and now - or before. And besides, if he has predestined everything like the Quran states several places, prayer cannot have any effect - everything is already decided.

028 42/5e: "- - - pray (to Allah*) for forgiveness - - -". Only 2 can forgive - the victim and a god. Allah thus only can forgive if he exists and if he in addition is a god, except in the cases where he is the victim - - - if he exists.

As for forgiving from Allah: Also see 2/187d and 67/9c above.

029 62/9b: "When the call is proclaimed to prayer on Friday - - - hasten earnestly to the Remembrance of Allah, and leave off business (and traffic) - - -". The Friday afternoon prayer is the most significant prayer in Islam. But note that unlike many religions, Islam does not have a day of rest during the week. Every day of the week is a workday, except during the prayer. You may work till the prayer starts, and start working again when the prayer is finished. (Seemingly this gives Muslims an edge in production. On the other hand science has found that a day of rest now and then benefits both body and soul and makes one able to work more efficient and steady in between. We have never seen any study studying the plusses and minuses of these two systems, and which one comes out ahead in overall efficiency and production. Also see 62/10 below.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are taught that a question or problem which really can have only one valid solutions, can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. F.x. in cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. Islam teaches differently. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1): Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. Islam is teaching differently. 2): The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other. Islam is teaching differently.)

Another fact: Today it is easy by means of statistical methods to check if prayers have any effect. (Let f.x. 1ooo persons each pray for one among 1ooo unknown persons sick or in other ways in need. compare the result after some time with a similar group of 1ooo who has not been prayed for, and see if there is a difference. If there is a positive difference, this would be a strong indication or perhaps even a proof for something - a proof Islam strongly and dearly needs, as they have not any proof for even a single of its central claims. But it has not even tried to make such a test. Why?)

Another and clear point: Allah declares that prayers on Fridays are extra valuable. Yahweh says nothing about this - and also not Jesus. One more strong indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

030 113/2-5: Different things you can pray to Allah for help against - but in vain unless Allah exists and in addition is a good and benevolent god. And if he is not bound up by his predestination.

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