Allah in the Quran, Chapter 50

 

Section V: THE MAIN RELIGIOUS RULES OF ALLAH

Chapter 50

TRUST ALLAH

 

001 To trust Allah is a risky business if he does not exist. Yes, even if he exists, but is not correctly described in the Quran - and there are many errors in the Quran. (The ultimate bad luck: Is Allah belonging to the dark forces?)

002 But think about small children meeting this book: "Trust Allah". "Trust Allah". "Trust Allah". Repeated again and again and again like in the texts below. "Allah and His Messenger are the Truth", "Allah and His Messenger are the Truth". "Allah and His Messenger are the Truth". And a number of other "truths" repeated and repeated and state to be the truth - by the book, by their parents, by their surroundings, by their imams - people they trust - and this long before they are old enough or have knowledge enough to think things over themselves. True or not it has got to make an impression, and a lasting one.

And all from a book so full of wrong facts, errors and worse, that it is impiety and an insult and slander to blame it on a god.

003 The very least one should do, is to check if it is possible that the Quran is from a god, and thus that there is a possibility for that Allah exists and is something supernatural. Not necessarily check if it really is from a god, but at least if there is a possibility for that a book of that quality is from a god. And if there in case is a possibility for that a book with that kind of moral and ethical codes is from a good and benevolent god (and not f.x. from the dark forces).

004 The fact that your primitive and uneducated forefathers came to believe that the Quran tells the truth, does not necessarily mean that they were or are right - Muslims of today believe because their forefathers tell them that the Quran is the truth, because this their forefathers again have told them. This even goes for the mullahs and imams and others - as children they were told this was the truth, and afterwards they mainly have sought persons and books confirming that belief.

005 A serious point here, is that much is wrong in the Quran, included hundreds of known facts. By far too much for a book from any god. Even too much to be from a devil, if the devil had a free choice.

This - and more - proves that the Quran is not from any god.

006 Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. ###### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 accepted and the many more known versions of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions through the times) - is in case the correct one?

########## Another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt it.

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable is that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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007 2/41a: “And believe in what I (Allah*) reveal (the Quran*) - - - “. No omniscient god has revealed a book with so many wrong facts and other errors. (Personally we even doubt that a devil would deliver a book of that quality if he had a free choice - he had to know that the many errors would be discovered sooner or later, and he loose credence.)

008 2/91a: “Believe in what Allah hath sent down (= the Quran*)”. Is it really Allah who has sent down a book with so many mistaken facts? Simply no - not if he was/is omniscient.

009 2/256i: "- - - the most trustworthy hand-hold - - -". Only if Allah exists, if he is a god, if he has sent down the Quran, and if the Quran in addition tells the full and only truth about this.

010 2/256l: "- - - (a*) hand-hold, that never breaks". Only if Allah exists, if he is a god, if he has sent down the Quran, and if the Quran in addition tells the full and only truth about this.

##011 3/9f: "- - - Allah never fails His promise." One more never proved claim which only rests on the word of a man with a rather doubtful moral, who accepted both lies, half-truths, deceit, and even breaking of oats. But in this case it may be true: There is no proof for that Allah ever gave any promise - only the words of a morally suspect person. If he never gave a promise, he also never failed one. (We may add that there never has been any proved case where Allah was proved to have given or to have kept a promise - and Islam had not given you a chance to forget it if it had ever happened.)

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###012 3/54ab: ”- - - and Allah too plotted and planned, and the best of planners is Allah.” It in reality is Allah who decides everything – “the best of planners”.

MORE OMINOUS: MUSLIMS UNDERSTOOD HERE THAT THE NON-MUSLIMS TRIED TO CHEAT AND DECEIVE ALLAH, BUT THAT ALLAH WAS BETTER AT CHEATING AND DECEIVING. BUT AS ALLAH COULD CHEAT AND DECEIVE, ALSO MUSLIMS COULD/OUGHT TO DO IT IF THERE WERE REASONS. THIS THUS IS ONE OF THE VERSES IN THE QURAN BEHIND THE "LAWFUL DISHONESTY", DECEIVING, ETC. IN ISLAM.

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013 3/122f: "- - - in Allah should the Faithful (ever) put their trust". A doubtful advice if the Quran - and thus Allah - is made up (and at least it is from no god - far too many errors, etc.).

014 3/159f: "- - - put thy (Muslim's*) trust in Allah". Be careful to do that until it is proved that Allah is not just the dressed up pagan and made up god al-Lah - nothing else was ever proved.

015 4/81c: "- - - put thy (Muslims'*) trust in Allah - - -". A bit risky if he does not exist.

016 4/87g: "And whose words can be truer than Allah's?" Allah - al-Lah - was a pagan main god from Arabia made sole god on basis of a book full of mistakes, contradictions, etc., dictated by a man of very doubtful morals - believing f.x. in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), deceit, and even the breaking of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2) - and a man liking power and riches (at least for bribes - and women), but unable to prove one single of his claims about his god or his connection to a god. Is this a god basis for believing what is said to be the truth? And 100% sure: If the Quran is Allah's words, much of his words are not the truth.

017 5/11d: "And on Allah let the Believers put (all) their trust". A bit risky if Allah is a made up god - and remember here that a book of a quality like the Quran is not from a god. It is slander, insult and heresy to blame a god - not to mention an omniscient one - for such a work.

018 5/23f: “- - - but on Allah put your (Jews*) trust if you have faith”. It is highly unlikely Jews at the time of Moses told their fellow Jews to trust Allah, as the name of the god of the Jews was Yahweh (and besides the name Allah was introduced only some 2000 years later (as a substitute for al-Lah). Actually Muhammad often uses the name Allah where it should have been Yahweh. The switching of names is so obvious, that mostly we do not comment on it.) Contradicted by the Bible. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words, like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

019 6/61c: "- - - He (Allah*) sets guardians over you." Here is a contradiction. Guardians mean angels, and other places in the Quran makes it clear it is more than one who looks after you at the same time - and all the time. But f.x. 6/8 says: "If We did send down an angel, the matter would be settled at once, and no respite would be granted them" = your life would come to an end or it would be the Day of Doom according to Islam. 6/61 says guardians (= angels, plural) take care of you. And for that case it is several places in the Quran said that the angel Gabriel is sent down to Muhammad. And Abraham, Lot, Mary, inhabitants in Sodom and Gomorrah saw angels. But 6/8 says no angel can be sent down because then everything will be over. A clear contradiction.

020 7/89g: "In Allah is our (Muslims*) trust". Rather risky as most likely he is a non-existent, made up god - at least there is no god behind the only claim for his existence, the Quran (too much is wrong in that book for any god to have been involved in it).

021 8/27b: "Betray not the trust of Allah - - -". Why should Allah have to rely on trust? - he according to the Quran knows everything, and has no need to rely on trust. But see 8/27c just below.

022 8/61c: "- - - trust in Allah - - -". Risky as long as Islam is not able to prove one millimeter about him - just claims and cheap words. In all other aspects of life, blind belief is the most sure way to be cheated, and the person only serving claims and fast words in real world, all too often is a cheater and deceiver - most often looking for power or wealth and sometimes women for himself.

023 9/16b: “Or think that ye (Muslims*) that ye shall be abandoned (by Allah and not be rewarded for going to war*), as though Allah did not know those among you who strive with might and main (for the religion*)- - -.” But is the implicit claim here true? It only can be if Allah really exists and is a god, and if the Quran in addition has described him correctly - in a book full of mistakes, etc. and dictated by a man of a very dubious character.

024 9/18f: "It is they (Muslims*) who are expected to be on true guidance." The central word here is "is expected".

025 9/129c: "- - - on Him (Allah*) is my (a Muslim’s*) trust - - -". Advisable only if Allah exists and in addition is a god (not f.x. something from the dark forces).

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######026 10/32b: “- - - apart from Truth, what remains but error?” It is very clear that much of what is said in the Quran is not true – and then #####“what remains but error”?

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027 10/71d: "- - - I (Noah*) put my trust in Allah". Noah is claimed to be a good Muslim. But there exists no documented or in other ways proved traces of Islam inside or outside the Quran older than 610 AD. A lot of words and claims, but nothing else - and words and claims are very cheap, especially when used for propaganda. And as the Quran with all its errors is not from any god - from where did Muhammad get this information or "information"?

028 10/71e: "- - - I (Noah*) put my trust in Allah". Contradicted by the Bible, which says his god was Yahweh. (But then Muhammad normally, but wrongly, mixes up those two gods - or claimed god(s)). Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

029 11/56a: "I (Hud*) put my trust in Allah - - -". A bit risky as long as not even his existence is proved - not to mention if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces, something too many facts may point to, if he is not pure fiction.

030 12/67e: "- - - in Him (here intended to be Allah*) I (Jacob*) put my trust - - -". Risky if he does not exist, or if he belongs to the dark forces and just have cheated people into a false religion.

031 13/30k: "On Him (Allah*) is my (Muhammad's*) trust, and to Him do I turn!" A bit risky as there never was a proof for his existence and never any kind of sure manifestation. May be the trust in Allah was the reason for why Muhammad lost all his children - included the sons Qasim, Abdullah, and Ibrahim - except Fatima, and she died shortly after him? And may be that was why he died in a ways which made lasting rumors of poisoning? - in line with the fact that of the next 11 caliphs, only Abu Bakr died a natural death, and he after just a short reign?

032 14/11f: "And in Allah let all men of faith put their trust". Rather risky as long as there are no proofs and not even any reliable indication for that he exists - and if he exists; is he from dark or good forces? - he is no god if he is behind the Quran, as too much is wrong in that book for a good to have been involved.

##033 14/12a: “No reason have we (Muslims*) why we should not put our trust in Allah”. Wrong. All the mistakes, etc. in the Quran prove 100% that it is not from a god. And all the mistaken facts which are in accordance with wrong science in the Middle East at the time of Muhammad, strongly indicate that it is made by one or more humans in Arabia at the time of Muhammad. In both cases the religion is a made up one, and Allah may not even exist. In addition one has the fact that Muhammad simply lied when it fitted him and did not even respect his own oaths. There is every reason for not putting any trust in Allah. Similar claim in 5/84.

034 14/12b: “No reason have we (Muslims*) why we should not put our trust in Allah”. Very wrong f.x. for believers in Yahweh - and perhaps for everybody.

035 14/12f: “For those who put their trust should put their trust in Allah.” Wrong. See 14/12a+d above.

036 14/27b: “- - - with the Word (the Quran*) that stands firm - - -.” Can words with that many mistakes and bent logic, etc. like in the Quran stand firm on other platforms than cheating, brain washing, pressure and wish for power? Plainly no.

037 16/42d: "- - - put their trust in Allah". A bit risky as long as there only exists one not reliable claimant for his existence and nothing else.

###038 16/99b: "No authority has he (the Devil*) over those who believe and put their trust in their Lord (Allah*)". Will this claim - as normal for the Quran not documented - also be valid if the Quran is a made up book? - (it at least is from no god with all those errors).

###### 039 19/61d: "- - - His (Allah's) promise must (necessarily) come to pass". Till this day there has not been one single promise clearly given by Allah and/or which clearly has been fulfilled by him. The best proof for that this fact is true, is the noise Islam had made if it had happened even once. Nobody has ever heard such noise.

####### There also is another point here: It is very clear from the Quran that Muhammad accepted, himself used, and also promoted the use of dishonesty as working tools if that would give better results than honesty (al-Taqiyya, Kitman., Hilah, deceit, betrayal, and even disuse/breaking of oaths). These verses are included and accepted parts of the Quran and of Islam as samples of how intelligent and smart Muhammad was. BUT KNOWING THIS, IT IS UTTER NAIVETY TO BELIEVE THAT A MAN WITH THAT KIND OF "FLEXIBLE" MORAL CODE, NEVER USED DISHONESTY ALSO TO MAKE HIS FOLLOWERS DO WHAT HE WANTED.

040 22/65d: "- - - Allah is Most Kind and Most Merciful to man". See 1/1a and 1/1e above.

041 23/1b: (YA2865): “The Believers must (eventually) win through - - -.” It may be worth mentioning that communism once said the same - their system was superior and had to win in the long run. The Nazi said the same - better system and better quality humans (Islam, its policy, moral code, etc. sometimes is compared to Nazism - f.x. C. G. Young). Also the South States (of U.S.) said the same - they were better quality and better warriors than the "merchants" in the North States. But the North States won.

042 25/31c: "- - - but enough is thy (Muhammad's/Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) to guide and to help." There has not in 1400 years been even one documented case of guidance or help from Allah. Lots of claims, but not one documented case.

043 25/58a: "- - - put thy (Muslim's*) trust in Him (Allah*) - - -". Rather risky as long as he has not left one single proved indication for that he even exists, let alone is powerful and do not belong to the dark forces.

044 26/217a: "- - - put thy trust in (Allah*) - - -". Rather risky as long as nothing ever was documented about him - not even if he exists or if he in reality belongs to the white or the dark side (he does not belong to the white side if he is behind the Quran - too much is wrong in that book, and too many parts of the moral code, etc. are immoral (just compare them to "do unto others like you want others do unto you", and see for yourself.

045 27/77a: “And it (the Quran*) certainly is a Guide - - -.” A book with that many mistakes and worse, certainly is no Guide – at least not a good or reliable one.

046 27/79a: "So put thy (Muslim's*) trust in Allah - - -". May be a bit risky as long as Allah never has proved even his existence, and never in 1400 years provably has helped one single person.

047 29/59b: "- - - put their trust in their Lord and Cherisher (Allah*)". Risky as long as nothing really is known about him - lots of claims, etc., but no real knowledge. Not even if he really exists, is proved.

048 31/9a: “The promise of Allah is true”. There never was one proved promise which was or is proved come true. Guess if Islam had told about it in case! Claims "en masse", but never a proved case.

049 31/22d: “- - - the most trustworthy hand-hold (the Quran and Allah*) - - -“. But a book with so many mistakes, etc. - and even some shining lies (like that miracles will not make a lot of people believe) – is not trustworthy. May be also this verse is wrong. Also see 31/22a above.

050 31/33e: "Verily, the promise of Allah is true". It is, but only if Allah exists and if the Quran only tells the truth about him - but much is wrong in that book.

051 31/33f: "Verily, the promise of Allah is true". There never in the entire history and before has been one single proved case of Allah even giving a promise, not to mention keeping one. The best proof for this, is Islam's silence on this point.

052 32/3e: “Nay, it (the Quran*) is the Truth from thy Lord (Allah*) - - -”. Can a book with that many mistakes and “signs” and “proofs” without logical value really be composed by an omniscient god and be the revered “Mother Book” in Heaven? No.

053 33/3a: "- - - put trust in Allah - - -". Rather risky as long as nothing is proved about him, and most likely he does not even exist.

054 33/40g: “- - - Allah has full knowledge of all things.” The Quran proves this is not true – lots of mistakes, etc. Or maybe it is not Allah who made the Quran? But it is an often repeated warning in the Quran - do not try to cheat, because Allah knows everything (well, it was not only bad, because he also saw the good things - both the whip and the carrot). Also see 2/23h above.

055 33/48c: "- - - put thy (Muslims'*) Trust in Allah". How is that possible when there is no proof neither for Allah's claimed existence, nor for his claimed being a god, nor for his claimed power, especially as the claims on top of all come from a book full of mistakes, dictated by a man of very doubtful moral, but with a strong liking for power, for riches for bribes for more power, and for women? That kind of politicians often are unreliable.

056 34/8f: “- - - those who believe not - - - are - - - in the farthest Error.” The question is: Who is likely to be in the farthest error; he/she who believes naively and blindly in a book where not a thing is proved or documented, except that it is proved that much of its contents are wrong and twisted and invalid and some of it even lies, and a book which is told by a man of very dubious character, but with lust for women and power? Or he/she who tries to find out if his tales can be true or not – and then leaves it if they find it is a made up religion (or start looking for a true religion, if such one exists). A made up religion has no value whether another real religion exists or not (but of course it is most serious if such a true religion exists, and one is denied the possibility to search for it. Then the possible next life may be troublesome).

057 35/5b: “Certainly the promise of Allah is true.” If he exists and if he is omniscient and if he is omnipotent, it is to be hoped it is so. But it is not possible from the Quran to know what is true or if anything is true at all - too many wrong facts, too many other mistakes, too many contradictions, too many invalid “signs” and “proofs”, and too many tales and statements built on nothing or on other statements resting just on air.

058 35/5c: “Certainly the promise of Allah is true.” There never through the times was one single documented case of Allah giving and/or keeping a promise - if there had been, Islam had put it on the walls of every mosque and many other places. Claims aplenty, proved cases none.

059 35/24g: “Verily We (Allah*) have sent thee (Muhammad*) in truth as a bearer of Glad Tidings and as a warner - - -.” (See 35/24f just above.) This verse is contradicted and often “killed” by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

It definitely is no proved verity/truth.

#########060 39/32c: "- - - utters a lie concerning Allah - - -". There is no bigger lie against Allah than the Quran, this whether he exists or not. Why we can say this so 100% sure and definitely, is that the book is so full of wrong facts, mistakes, contradictions, etc. that no god has been involved in it, not to mention a claimed omniscient god. It is not possible to say who made it, though there are good reasons for to suspect Muhammad, partly because one recognize the methods used by false prophets, partly because many of the mistakes are things one believed was correct science at his time in that area, partly because it is clear from f.x. Arabisms that it was made in or near Arabia, partly because of all the times Allah helped him with family and other personal problems, partly because he was the main benefactor, partly because it was his platform of power, and not least because the religion changed when Muhammad needed or wanted changes.

If he was mentally ill like modern medical science, he can however partly have believed in his tales and preaching himself, at least in the beginning. But he was too intelligent and knew too much about people not to know that he was lying some times, even in surahs and verses in the Quran. Some things there is not possible for an intelligent person knowing people to believe.

But if one believes in supernatural beings, there also is the possibility that the Quran is from the dark forces. If f.x. the Devil dressed up like the angel Gabriel no human - included Muhammad - would have a chance to know the difference. The partly immoral moral code, the partly unethical ethical code, the partly unjust judicial code, the permission of stealing/robbing, raping, suppressing, enslaving, murdering, etc., etc., may point in this direction.

As the Quran is not from any god, it is extremely likely that Allah just is a made up, false god - the old pagan Arab god Il, al-Ilah, al-Lah dressed up. And if he after all exists, it is as extremely unlikely he is correctly described among all the wrong facts and errors in the Quran.

Also see 34/8b above.

061 39/38i: "In Him (Allah*) trust those who put their trust". And they are cheated if not the Quran is 100% reliable (one of the reason why Islam can accept no mistakes in the Quran (even though they have had to accept a few, though they never mention this fact - see separate chapter in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran"). If there are mistakes in the Quran, the book is not from a god, and the religion is a made up one - a chain of logical steps in which they are very right).

062 42/10c: "In Him (Allah*) I (Muhammad*) trust, and to Him I return". Three possible comments: If Allah does not exist and Muhammad knew it: Muhammad cheated his followers to get power, etc. If Allah does not exist, but Muhammad believed so (f.x. because of his possible illness - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, TLE). Or if Allah existed in the dark forces, but had cheated Muhammad to believe he was a god - f.x. by impersonating Gabriel: Poor Muhammad if there is a next life. The possibility that Allah exists and is a god in reality is not possible, if he is behind the Quran - no god is involved in a claimed holy book of that quality.

###063 42/24i: “And Allah - - - proves the Truth by His Words.” Muhammad was asked many times to prove his - or presumably Allah’s - words but he never did, and seemed never to be able to, this even more so, as f.x. some of his “explanations” for why he never could prove anything, an intelligent man like him knew were lies. And the words of the Quran prove not a thing because the Quran accepts the use of dishonesty in words and deeds.

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###064 42/24j: “And Allah - - - proves the Truth by His Words.” Muhammad was asked many times to prove his - or presumably Allah’s - words, but he never did, and seemed never to be able to, this even more so, as f.x. some of his “explanations” for why he never could prove anything, an intelligent man like him knew were lies (f.x. that real miracles would make no-one believe anyhow). And the words of the Quran prove not a thing, among other reasons because:

  1. Far too many mistakes pretending to be facts. (Swindle?)
  2. Far too many loose statements pretending to be facts. (Swindle?)
  3. Far too many invalid “signs” pretending to be documentation. (Swindle?)
  4. Far too many invalid or even wrong "proofs" pretending to be documentation. (Swindle?)
  5. Some obvious lies – f.x. that miracles would make no-one believe, or that Muhammad wanted no payment (in spite of what Muslims claim, Muhammad was well off when he died - estates in Mecca, Medina, and Fadang, and more - even though he had spent fortunes for bribes for followers/power, and lots of women also cost something). (Swindle.)
  6. Muhammad was unable to present anything but fast-talk when asked for proofs. (Swindle?)
  7. Lots of invalid use of logic. (Swindle?)
  8. Lots of contradictions (– proves of lies?)
  9. Lots of unclear language - at least 500+ confirmed by Muslim scholars. (Not from a god.)
  10. Lots of fast talk. (Suspicious.)
  11. The Quran has few real details, it jumps back and forth in its story, and it has unclear tales and explanations on many points. According to science these normally are indications for a cheat or deceiver. They mention one more such an indication - that cheats and deceivers have a tendency to talk with a higher pitch when spinning tales. For natural reasons it is impossible to find out in Muhammad did so.

These all are hallmarks of a crook and a cheat and a deceiver. At least some of the times he made loose claims, Muhammad knew he was lying.

####What does this mean for the religion?

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065 42/36c: "- - - put their (Muslims'*) Trust in their Lord (Allah*)". No sane and intelligent person puts his values - or his life - into something without thinking over and evaluating the risk. But Muhammad demanded everybody to risk both their lives and their possible next life just on his words and on blind belief - normally the most sure way to be cheated, especially if the tempter is an unreliable person believing in the use of dishonesty, deceit and even broken words/promises/oaths, and liking respect, power, and riches for more power - and women. That kind of persons often are not very reliable.

####066 43/4b: “- - - it (the Quran*) is in the Mother of Books, in Our (Allah’s*) presence, high (in dignity) - - -”. This is one of the places in the Quran where Muhammad claims the Quran is taken from (is a copy of) "the Mother Book" in Allah’s own home/Heaven. But no book containing hundreds of wrong facts, hundreds of other mistakes, hundreds of contradictions, hundreds of loose claims and statements, lots of invalid logic, lots of invalid “signs” and lots of invalid “proofs” easy for anybody with good and wide education too see through, hundreds of places with unclear language, etc., is copied from a revered Mother Book, high in dignity and esteem, in the perfect Heaven, the home of and by a perfect, omnipotent and omniscient god. See also 13/39,43/4, 85/21-22.

###067 43/4c: "- - - the Mother of Books (from which the Quran is copied according to the Quran*), in Our (Allah's*) Presence, high (in dignity) - - -". No book with so much wrong like the Quran is cherished by a god - or held high in dignity by any god - not even by a baby dwarf god hidden in a cradle in remote corner. Something is seriously wrong.

068 43/19c: "- - - evidence - - -". Muhammad wanted proofs form all opponents, but never - never - proved anything of any consequence himself. The entire Quran and all Islam are built only on loose words and claims - But Muhammad demanded and Islam demands proofs from everyone else. Also beware that both Muhammad, the Quran, Muslims, and Islam frequently are very "free" and "generous" with the use of words like "evidence", "proof", etc. A proof is "one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". This - that they build on proved facts - very far from is the case for many Islamic "proofs", etc.

REMEMBER THIS: THE QURAN - AND ISLAM AND MUSLIMS - IS VERY "LIBERAL" WITH USING WORDS LIKE EVIDENCE, PROOF, SIGN (INDICATED TO BE PROOFS), ETC. IT IS SYMPTOMATIC THAT F.X. NOT ONE OF THE CLAIMED SIGNS OR PROOFS FOR ALLAH IS VALID - "A PROOF IS ONE OR MORE PROVED FACTS WHICH CAN GIVE ONLY ONE CONCLUSION", AND NEITHER THE QURAN, NOR ISLAM, NOR MUSLIMS, EVER PROVE THAT IT REALLY WAS ALLAH WHO WAS/IS BEHIND WHAT IS CLAIMED TO BE THE PROOF FOR HIM, AND THUS MORE THAN ONE CONCLUSION IS POSSIBLE. THERE IS NO EXCEPTION FROM THIS NEITHER IN THE QURAN NOR IN THE HADITHS.

Some other quotes about proofs and invalid or made up proofs:

  1. "Strong claims need strong proofs.
  2. "A claim without a proof may be dismissed without a proof".
  3. "Claims are cheap, but only proofs are proofs".
  4. "The use of invalid proofs normally proves that something is fishy".
  5. "The cheat or deceiver naturally must rely on claims pretending to be facts or proofs".
  6. "A made up 'proof' makes the man very suspect".
  7. "A strong belief is not a proof - not necessarily even a truth"
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  9. "Wrong claims and invalid "proofs" are working tools of the cheat".
  10. "A student with correct facts gets a more correct answer than 20 professors with wrong facts". (Invalid, "signs", claims, "proofs", etc. of course are wrong facts.)
  11. And we may add from Peer Gynt in his original language: "Naar utgangspunktet er som galest, blir resultatet tidt originalest" - freely translated: "When you conclude from wrong claims/wrong facts/invalid "proofs"/etc., you get wrong conclusions".

###069 43/48b: (A43/41): "The concept of 'returning' to Allah implies that the instinctive ability to perceive His (Allah's*) existence is inherent in human nature as such - - -". #####Scientifically this is nonsense and gobbledygook. No such "instinctive ability" has ever been found - not even a shadow of it. One has found that a minor percentage has a longing for something strong to lean to - a god. But nothing more - no "ability to perceive" a god. But Islam is built on absolutely nothing - only on never proved words and claims from a man of doubtful character, but with a liking for power and women - and needs dogmas like this. True or not true does not matter very much, as al-Taqiyyas (lawful lies) and Kitmans (lawful half-truths) are not only permitted, but advised to use "if necessary" for defending or advancing the religion - Islam sometimes is a bit "special" when it comes to honesty.

Besides the logic is wrong in one more way: To return to, only means to go back to some place/"person" one is claimed to have seen before. There is no indication of "instinctive ability to perceive" anything at all. Muslims too often are not strong on honesty.

070 43/61e: "- - - follow ye (people/Muslims/Muhammad?) Me (Allah*) - - -". Normally it is not advisable to follow someone who has nothing to show for his big and incredible words but claims + demands for blind belief - and especially so when the self proclaimed messenger is a person of doubtful moral even according to his own religion's books, and on top of all is believing in the use of dishonesty and deceit and even broken words/promises/oaths - - - and liking power, riches for more power - and women.

###071 43/63c: “(Jesus said*): therefore fear Allah - - -”. As said before: If Jesus had been a missionary for the known polytheistic god al-Lah from a not too far off country, he for one thing had got very few followers in the at that time strictly monotheistic Israel, and for another thing he had been killed by the clergy long time before - especially if he all the same got a big following like he really got. This is a tale told by someone who knew the religious and political situation in Israel around year 30 AD badly. Besides it are historical facts that the god of the Jews at that time, was Yahweh, and that the teaching had very little to do with the one in the Quran. Remember here that we now are in the time of written history - these are documented facts. Also see 43/63b just above.

###072 44/2d: (YA4689): "The Quran is its own evidence". Wrong - and this should have been written with capital letters. Islam has no proofs for anything central in its religion - no proof for the existence of Allah, no proof for Allah being a god, no proof for the Quran coming from a deity, not to mention being a revered "mother book" in Heaven, no proof for Muhammad's connection to a god, not even a proof for Muhammad being a good or a reliable person. Partly because of this, Muslims always have been on the look-out for things they could use as proofs. And one such claimed "proof" is that the Quran is a proof or proves itself. Claims like the language is so perfect that it must be made by a god (there are many weak points in the language), that only a god could make such a book without contradictions (there are at least 300 - 400 internal contradictions in the book + a huge number of external ones), that nobody but a god could make such a book totally without mistakes (there may be as many as unbelievable 3ooo mistakes in that after all small book, included may be some 2ooo points with wrong facts), that only a god could make such a good literature - a claim you should tell no-one who really knows how good literature is written. Etc. The only thing the Quran with all its miserable mistakes, contradictions, unclear language, etc. proves, is that no god ever was involved in making it - it is slander and heresy against any omniscient god to accuse him of making a book of a quality like the Quran. And thus it at the same time proves that something is seriously wrong with both the Quran and with Islam.

Besides: To prove the Quran by means of the Quran is a so-called circular proof. Circular proof are by definition invalid, as they prove nothing.

It tells something about the value of proofs for Islam that it tries strongly to find proofs. And it tells even more that one has to resort to calling this kind of fast talk proofs.

"A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". There is not one "proof" or even "sign" about Allah or about the origin of the Quran in the Quran which satisfy this minimum requirement.

Some other quotes about proofs and invalid or made up proofs:

  1. "Strong claims need strong proofs.
  2. "A claim without a proof may be dismissed without a proof".
  3. "Claims are cheap, but only proofs are proofs".
  4. "The use of invalid proofs normally proves that something is fishy".
  5. "The cheat or deceiver naturally must rely on claims pretending to be facts or proofs".
  6. "A made up "proof" makes the man very suspect".
  7. "A strong belief is not a proof - not necessarily even a truth"
  8. .
  9. "Wrong claims and invalid "proofs" are working tools of the cheat".
  10. "A student with correct facts gets a more correct answer than 20 professors with wrong facts". (Invalid, "signs", claims, "proofs", etc. of course are wrong facts.)
  11. And we may add from Peer Gynt in his original language: "Naar utgangspunktet er som galest, blir resultatet tidt originalest" - freely translated: "When you conclude from wrong claims/wrong facts/invalid "proofs"/etc., you get wrong conclusions".

**073 45/19+20: “- - - Allah is the Protector of the Righteous. These are clear evidence to men - - -”. Yes, but only if it is documented that Allah really is a protector. There are no proofs for that neither in the Quran nor anywhere else - only claims or statements based on invalid (not proved) claims or loose statements, etc. There in reality is not even a single valid proof for Allah himself. (But then it is not possible for humans to prove a god - only a god can do that. That is one of the reasons why all the “proofs” in the Quran turn out invalid – Allah refused to or was unable to prove anything). This claim is logically invalid.

074 45/32a: "- - - the promise of Allah was true - - -". In all records there never was one case of a promise clearly from Allah which provably came true by an act from Allah.

075 46/17b: “For the promise of Allah is true.” That may be - if he exists (there is not one single proof, and the number of tries with invalid proofs, etc., make no good impression, as that normally is the hallmarks of cheats and deceivers). But there are good reasons for doubt, as the only source for information is the Quran, and very much there is not correct - or doubtful. In a way worse: There never was a proved case of Allah keeping a promise. Lots of claims, but not one proved case - nowhere and never. (The best proof for this, is Islam's silence on this point.)

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###076 47/4c: This is a really serious one: “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; at length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them) - - -.” BUT OUR SOURCES TELL THAT THE WORDS “(in fight)” IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE ARAB TEXT – IT IS ADDED BY THE TRANSLATOR (and by more than one). Muslims primarily shall read the Quran in Arab, and there in case our sources are correct the text is: “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, smite at their necks - - -“. It in case simply is a permanent order to be aggressive.

The real religion of peace. Not to mention a real god of peace.

Al-Taqiyya is the name for "lawful lies" in Islam, and are advice to be used "if necessary" to defend or promote the religion.

######The world should never forget that Islam in Medina was turned into a religion of hate, superiority claims, apartheid, suppression, blood and war, and that this is the Quran and Islam also today, as the surahs from Medina according to Islam's rules for abrogation (making points in the Quran invalid) supersedes the ones from Mecca, because the ones from Medina are younger. Neither should the world ever forget that the Quran and Islam accept the use of dishonesty as a working tool, if that gives a better result - even advice to use it in some cases "if necessary" (to defend or promote Islam). ########Most Muslims are ok persons, but one should never forget neither the demands for war and suppression nor the moral code in the Quran.

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077 48/6f: "- - - He (Allah*) has cursed them and got Hell ready for them (non-Muslims*)". This he cannot do unless he exist and in addition is either a god or a devil.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical. And similar gods f.x. for their very different paradises.

###078 58/10f: "- - - in Allah let the Believers put their trust." Rather risky in such a serious question to believe blindly in a man of doubtful moral, believing in the use also of dishonesty, and with a lot to gain from your believing blindly in his tales. In all other aspects of life, that is the blueprint for the surest way to be deceived.

079 60/4n: "In Thee (Allah*) we (Abram/Abraham and other Muslims(!!)*) we trust - - -". Anyone trusting Allah is in for a surprise, if he does not exist (not to mention if he belong to the dark forces) - especially if there is a next life, especially since Islam is a kind of religion few good or benevolent gods will accept. Also: According to the Bible Abraham's god was Yahweh, not Allah.

080 62/1e: "- - - (Allah*) the Sovereign, the Holy One - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the sovereign - and holy - god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

081 62/1f: "(Allah*) the Exalted in Might - - -". He in case never unmistakably has showed his might.

082 62/11f: "And Allah is the Best to provide for all needs". A good slogan and a good claim - but like always in the Quran never proved.

083 64/8a: “Believe, therefore, in Allah and His Messenger - - -". As For believing: See all the mistakes, contradictions, invalid claims/logic, etc. – not to mention highly immoral laws that are not made by any benevolent god.

But was Muhammad really a messenger? - there only is his word for it, and the Quran proves that he far from was a reliable person + with strong motifs for using also dishonesty.

084 64/13c: "- - - on Allah - - - let the Believers put their trust". A good idea if Allah exists and is a benevolent god. A bad idea if he exists, but is something dark pretending to be a god - the blood, the belief in dishonesty, parts of the moral, ethical and judicial codes may indicate this. And also a bad idea if Allah is a made up god, and especially so if there exist any other god and a next life.

085 65/3a "- - - if anyone puts his trust in Allah - - -". A bit risky, as long as it is highly unlikely in the extreme that he exists.

086 67/29c: "- - - on Him (Allah*) we put our trust - - -". Rather risky, as long as not even his existence is clear, not to mention proved. Or if he in case belongs to the white or the dark forces - if he exists, there are too many indications for comfort for the latter. Also see 67/9c above.

087 72/13c: "- - - any who believes in his Lord (Allah*) has no fear - - -". This may be correct - like in most other religions. But if the god or gods are made up, they all the same may have a reason to have fear. And as the Quran with all its errors is not from a god, Muslims have such a reason for fear - it is highly likely Allah is a made up god like the Quran is (as it is from no god and no god behind it, it is made up in religious meaning).

088 77/7c: "Assuredly, what ye (Muslims*) are promised (by Allah*) must come to pass". Wrong. With all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran, at least this is not assured.

089 92/7a: "We (Allah*) will indeed make smooth for him (the Muslim*) the path - - -". This only is possible if Allah exists and is powerful - god or from the dark forces.

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