Allah in the Quran, Chapter 42

 

Chapter 42

ALLAH -- A "GOOD AND BENEVOLENT GOD"?

 

001 This is one of the chapters where you will find many more samples if you read the Quran, and especially in the surahs from Medina. This claim above which you frequently meet in the Quran, so obviously is wrong, and it is so easy to find such wrong samples, that we did not bother to pick more ones.

002 To overstate a little: The only way the war god of Medina is "good and benevolent", is that he permits Muslims to use dishonesty, to steal and extort themselves rich, and in addition he gives a lot of never proved promises about an Earth-like royal luxury in the claimed next life.

003 And to repeat a fact: There never was a good and benevolent god of war in any religion. Allah is a typical god of war, at least like you meet him in the surahs from Medina, and on top of this Islam is a typical war religion, at least after it was transformed in Medina around 622 - 624 AD.

004 Well: Remember "do to others - also to non-Muslims - like you want others - also non-Muslims - do to you", plus remember that in hundreds of generations and in the entire world there is not one proved case of Allah giving even a needle or a matchstick or a service to even one single person, not to mention not one single proved case of Allah giving or keeping a promise to anybody. Lots and lots and lots of claims, but not one proved case. (The best proof for this, is that if there ever had been one single proved case, Islam had SCREAMED about it. There never was such a scream.)

####  Another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt it.

Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. Hardly even a devil would do so. ##### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 known versions of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions than the 29 main ones through the times) - is in case the correct one?

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable is that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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*005 1/1a:

"In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying (see 2/2b below), thieving/looting, rape, pedophilia, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of slaves and of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and the corresponding demands, deeds and introduced rules and moral, etc, we personally believe in the demands and deeds and rules and the moral. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds enforced rules and moral are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda. (Is there something symbolic in that in the very first line of the Quran, we must point to rules for and use of dishonesty, partly immoral moral code, partly immoral and unjust laws, etc. in the book, and thus with Muhammad and in Islam?)

006 1/3c: "(Allah is*) Most Gracious, Most Merciful". According to the Bible Yahweh is better - especially in the New Covenant. The same according to the realities in the Quran - especially according to surahs from Medina.

###007 2/7c: “Allah hath set seal on their (non-Muslims*) hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).” Guess if this contradicts the basic thoughts of the NT (New Testament)!!. Compare it to "the lost sheep" (Matt.18/12), "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8-13), etc. Yahweh with a few exceptions never closed hearts, ears, or eyes of sinners, blocking the road to Paradise for them - and never in NT and the new covenant (f.x. Luke 22/20). Yahweh and Allah the same god? - only if he is strongly schizophrenic. Too deep and too fundamental differences.

*008 2/26h: “- - - He (Allah*) causes many to stray - - -.” The main point here is that it is Allah who causes it. Can Allah then be a benevolent god, when straying means you will end in Hell? There is quite a difference between this and "the lost sheep" in NT (the shepherd - God/Jesus - lost a sheep (similitude for a human) and went far out to find it). This is one of the places where there are worlds between the basic ideas of Allah and of God/Yahweh - so fundamental differences that it is clear that Muhammad's claim that Allah = Yahweh is wrong - - - unless the god is highly schizophrenic. (See f.x. Luke 15/8-10 and 15/11-31 or Matt. 18/12-14 and 20/8-13).

All this means Allah is deceiving persons. We also here touch Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth), deceit, and lawfully breaking of even oaths (and what then about normal promises?), etc., which is something which is special for Islam. You find this kind of accepted dishonesty in no other of the major religions – and in few of the minor ones.

Actually al-Taqiyya, Kitman, and Hilah are not explicitly introduced in the Quran. It is based on conclusions Islamic scholars have made from things said and done about (dishonest) planning or cheating, honesty, breaking of oaths (introduced in the Quran), etc. in the book and in Hadiths. See the verses below. Institutionalizes by Muhammad and his Quran, but formalized by the scholars.

The Quran and Islam tell that in principle you should be honest. But in many cases where dishonesty will give a better result, you are permitted to lie (Al-Taqiyya, Kitman, Hilah) and even to deceive - done by Muhammad, and thus permitted - or make false oaths or to break oaths you have made (2/225a, 5/89a+b, 13/42, 27/50 and some more)). In some cases Allah will say it is ok because it is a minor thing or because you did not really mean your oath, and in other cases he will say; “ok – if you pay me some money or give me a gift for expiation afterward”. And then in some cases it is not only permitted, but advisable to use it if necessary: To defend or promote Islam.

Al-Taqiyya, Kitman, and Hilah can be used at least in these cases (for deceit, betrayal, broken oaths, etc. there are given no real limitations if the broken oath, etc. will give a better result. By implication this also goes for ordinary words or promises, as an oath is something stronger than a normal promise or a normal given word). It can be used:

  1. 1. To save your or others' health or life.
  2. 2. To get out of a tight spot or a dangerous problem or position.
  3. 3. To make peace in a family.
  4. 4. When it will give a better result than honesty or honoring one’s oath.
  5. 5. To cheat women (should be remembered by girls with Muslim boyfriends wanting sex - or wanting a marriage to get work permit or residence permit in a rich country.)
  6. 6. To deceive opponents/enemies.
  7. 7. To betray enemies.
  8. 8. To secure one’s money (very clear from Hadiths).
  9. 9. To defend Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)
  10. 10. To promote Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)

But al-Taqiyya is a double-edged sword: In the short run you may cheat and deceive some ones – actually also in the long run too if the opposite part does not know about this side of Muslims and of Islam, or if he/she is naïve or wishes to believe.

But the serious side effect is that people quickly learn that one can never know for sure when to believe a Muslim in serious questions: Is he honest or is he using f.x. an al-Taqiyya?

And there is another side effect: Muslims have difficulties being believed even when they are telling the full truth – for very good reasons the opposite parts are reluctant to fully believe them, as may be they tell the truth or maybe they just are practicing al-Taqiyya or Kitman or something.

And yet another side effect: How can Muslims know when to believe their leaders and others? (This may be one of the reasons for why Muslims produce so may conspiracy theories - they go looking for "the real truth" behind what is told, no matter if the tale is an al-Taqiyya or the plain, sterling truth).

And all these side effects – which really over time may be the main effects – are made worse because Muslims have no way of strengthening their words by swearing, as oaths from Muslims are without much value, because they are permitted false oaths and to break their oaths – it is no sin to do so, if you did not really mean the oath or have a reason for breaking it, and especially not if you give Allah a gift for expiation afterwards (necessary in serious cases). And if you can promote Islam by disusing an oath, you even should do so.

009 2/26i: “- - - He (Allah*) causes many to stray - - -”. As said in 2/26g Yahweh would go far out of his way to save straying ones, and absolutely not do the opposite: To cause someone to stray. Not the same god.

010 2/88c: "Nay, Allah’s curse is on them (non-Muslims, here likely the Jews of Medina*) for their blasphemy: little do they believe". The Quran here claims that the reason why they did not believe in Muhammad, was that Allah had cursed them - psychologically a much better story for Muhammad to tell his followers than the plain reality: The Jews understood from their knowledge of the old scriptures, how wrong Muhammad's teachings and his claim that Yahweh and Allah was the same god, were. As everyone knows, Muhammad claimed that the discrepancies between the Torah, etc. and the Quran were because the Jews and Christians had falsified the books - his only possible way out, if he wanted to save his religion and his own position. Science and even more so Islam later have proved this claim wrong, by being unable to prove one single falsification among literally tens of thousands of relevant old manuscripts (the numbers wary some, but some 300 Gospels or fragments of Gospels, some 13ooo scriptures or fragments from the Bible, and some 32ooo other manuscripts with quotes from the Bible, all older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his new religion, and when there thus was no reason for falsifying Muhammad and his teachings out - Islam has been unable to prove any point at all in them falsified. Like so often with Islam, there have been - and are - claims, but only claims. (If there had been real proofs, the world had been told about it frequently and in big letters.)

As for OT also the fact that Jesus accepted the old scriptures without warning, both to Christians and Muslims, and to most Jews and historians, prove that OT was not falsified at his time - not before 33 AD. Combine the Biblical parts of the Qumran scrolls to this - most of OT from 150-50 BC practically identically to our OT - and you have one more solid proof also for that OT never was falsified.

It also is pretty thought provoking that one has found some 45ooo manuscripts or fragments relevant for the Bible older that 610 AD, but not one single from a book like the Quran older than that. This in spite of that the Hadiths tells at least 124ooo (= 620 at any time for 5ooo years or 12-15 for 160-200ooo years. No traces from them found. Believe it if you can.) copies were sent down to prophets all over the world, and normally each of them would have been copied many times over afterwards. 45ooo : 0 make a strong question, especially as there should have been many more from the Quran than from the Bible - - - if Islam tells the truth.

011 2/105f: "- - - Allah is the Lord of grace abounding". See 1/1a above - can this claim be true?

012 2/143o: "For Allah is to all people most surely full of kindness - - -". Wrong: Not to the victims of Islam internal and external in/outside Islam. And not if he does not exist - Muhammad was unable to prove anything at all of his central claims, and had only lose claims and as lose statements to offer - - - and central Islamic literature shows he was not always a reliable man.

013 2/207b: "- - - Allah is full of kindness - - -". See 1/1a above.

014 2/213j: “Allah by His Grace guided - - -". If the Quran is not from Allah, it is not Allah who does the guiding.

015 2/213p: “For Allah guides whom He will - - -”. Whereas Yahweh goes far out of his way to guide everyone he can to Paradise.

016 2/218f: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving - - -". Allah could not and cannot forgive unless he exists and in addition is a god - neither of which was ever proved. There only is the word of a man with doubtful moral and according to central Islamic literature believing in the use of dishonesty if that gave a better result - a man also with strong personal motifs for making people believe, as that gave him respect, power and riches (at least for bribes) - and women.

As for Allah forgiving: Also see 2/187d and 67/9c above.

017 2/243c: "- - - Allah is full of bounty to mankind - - -". See 1/1a above.

###018 2/244a: “Then fight in the cause of Allah - - -". An order not possible to misunderstand - from the good idol Muhammad leading the claimed "religion of peace".

019 2/253h: “If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other - - -”. Is it then f.x. because of the will of Allah that Muslims have fought and killed and murdered and raped and suppressed also each other for 1400 years? Not to mention what they have done to outsiders? In that case Allah is no good and benevolent god - if he exists.

020 3/30e: "And Allah is full of kindness to those who serve Him". Is he? - with all his demands for war and blood, with his partly immoral moral code, with his partly unjust laws, etc.?

####021 3/54b: ”- - - and Allah too plotted and planned, and the best of planners is Allah.” This verse in addition is one of the verses the Muslim phenomena al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and Hilah (the lawful pretending or circumventing - "the dishonesty in disguise") are based on – when Allah can “plot and plan” (indicating using dishonest means) of course his followers can do the same as long as it is not forbidden – which it is not. Also see 2/26h, 2/224e-f, 2/225a, 4/142a, 8/30, 10/21b, 13/42, 27/50, and 86/16 - dishonesty as a policy is one of the fundamental rules in the Quran's moral - or immoral - code. Al-Taqiyya, Kitman, and Hilah are permitted in 8 - 10 wide cases, and advised "if necessary" in 2: To defend and to promote Islam. Worth remembering for Muslims and non-Muslims alike; what is true and what is not true in Muslims' arguments about such things? And how much is true in a religion partly relying on dishonesty? - - - and what then about its claimed prophet, Muhammad? - how much of his words are Kitmans or al-Taqiyyas or deceit, etc.? (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

Just for the record: Al-Taqiyya, Kitman, and Hilah can be used at least in these cases (for deceit, betrayal, and broken oaths there are given no real limitations if the broken oath will give a better result. By implication this also goes for ordinary words and promises, as an oath is something stronger than a normal word or promise. Muhammad said according to f.x. ibn Ishaq, "The life of Muhammad", that "war is deceit" - and according to many Muslims "anything" is war (according to Islam also everything outside Islamic lands are "area of war"):

  1. 1. To save your or others' health or life.
  2. 2. To get out of a tight spot or a dangerous problem.
  3. 3. To make peace in a family.
  4. 4. When it will give a better result than honesty or honoring one’s oath.
  5. 5. To cheat women (should be remembered by girls with Muslim boyfriends wanting sex - or wanting a marriage to get residence permit in a rich country.)
  6. 6. To deceive opponents/enemies.
  7. 7. To betray enemies.
  8. 8. To secure one’s money (very clear from Hadiths).
  9. 9. To defend Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)
  10. 10. To promote Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)

But al-Taqiyya, etc. is a double-edged sword: In the short run you may cheat and deceive some ones – actually also in the long run if the opposite part does not know about this side of Muslims and of Islam, or if he/she is naïve or wants to believe.

But in the long run the surroundings learn that it is impossible quite to trust a Muslim in serious questions: When is he speaking the honest truth and when is he using an al-Taqiyya or some other kind of "lawful" dishonesty? - lawful at least according to the Quran and to the Sharia laws.

DO YOU WONDER WHY ISLAM AND ITS MUSLIMS SO SELDOM USE THE CLAIM "ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF HONESTY"?

022 3/74a: "For His (Allah's*) Mercy (here = prophethood*) He specially choseth whom He pleaseth - - -". Muhammad claimed that he was not rejected by the Jews because his teaching was wrong, but because he was not a Jew. This verse is a defense against the bad Jews disliking that he was not Jewish - it was for Allah to decide whom to choose for a messenger. (Muhammad's claim was wrong - and it is likely Muhammad knew it, but needed the "explanation" - as the real reason was that there are miles between Islam and the Mosaic - Jewish - religion.

023 3/74b: "- - - His (Allah's*) Mercy - - -". See 1/1a above (though just here it refers to Muhammad’s claimed prophethood).

024 3/108d: "- - - Allah means no injustice to any of His creatures". Read the unjust parts of the sharia laws, the immoral parts of Islam's moral code, Islam's rules for behavior during and after raids and wars, etc. and weep. Also see 1/1a above.

##025 3/121-127: The religion of peace? - the god of peace? As mentioned other places, these claims are an insult to the intelligence of anyone who has ever read the complete Quran - or at least the surahs from Medina - with an open mind and the brain and knowledge engaged. Allah is a god of war and Islam a religion of suppression, dishonesty and war.

026 3/127c: "- - - He (Allah*) might cut off a fringe of the Unbelievers to expose them to infamy - - -". The religion of peace? - the god of peace?

027 3/148c: “For Allah loveth those who do good - - -". Allah can love no-one unless he exists - and there is not one single proof, not even a clear indication, for his existence.

###But an extra point: What is the meaning of "good" in this connection? What the Quran calls "good", too often is far from good - often really bad - according to normal religions, normal moral codes and normal cultures. Cfr. f.x: "Do to others like you want others do to you". Islam often is outside that.

028 3/148d: “For Allah loveth those who do good (in this case: To wage war for Allah and Muhammad*)”. To do battle for Allah - to steal and burn and kill and murder and destroy and rape for the good and benevolent deity - is a good thing which Allah loves. (Actually that it shall be done in the name of the god, makes it even more disgusting.) Did anyone say that modern terrorists have to twist the words of the Quran to find incitements to their deeds? And also: Muhammad got cheap warriors and gained wealth and power - in wars and robberies that really were illegal according to the Quran, as they in reality were wars of aggression, not really of defense. And they gave him the possibility to rape at least two women - Rayhana bint Amr and Safijja bint Huayay (+ that Marieh hardly had a free choice).

029 3/159a: "- - - the Mercy of Allah - - -". See 1/1a above.

030 3/167c: "- - - fight in the way of Allah - - -". That the raids and wars were and partly are made in the name of the god, make them even more detestable, especially as most of them were raids and wars of aggression - mainly for riches, extortion, slaves and power - and for spreading Islam by means of the sword directly and indirectly. And for women.

##031 3/169a: “Think not of those who are slain in Allah’s way as dead. Nay, they live - - - in the presence of their Lord (Allah*)”. What better can a warrior ask for? - and thinking like that, they made - and make - cheap soldiers for Muslim leaders. But what if Muhammad made it all up? - at least no god made the Quran with that many mistakes, etc. And as no god made a book of a quality like the Quran: where will all the Muslims in reality end if there is a next life?

032 3/174a: “And they returned (from war) with Grace and Bounty from Allah: no harm ever touched them - - -”. A fairy tale picture of war and easy riches. A good pep talk for recruiting new warriors if the men are uneducated and naïve. Glorifying war and spoils of war attracts new warriors. The larger the “army” the better chance of success and power for leaders.

But never a word about the catastrophes for the victims and for the destroyed cultures, etc. Compassion and empathy nearly does not exist in the Quran - and definitely not concerning non-Muslims.

###033 4/84b: “Then fight in Allah’s cause - - -”. The religion of peace? - from a good and benevolent god?

034 4/84k: "- - - for Allah is the strongest in - - - punishment - - -". A good and benevolent god? Also see 3/77b above.

Another point is: Can Allah punish? If you make a sin from your own free will, and Allah wants to punish you for it, this means that Allah has to change his Plan, as the punishment was not in his predestined Plan. But nobody and nothing can change that Plan, according to several points in the Quran. But if the sin - and the punishment - both are parts of Allah's predestined and unchangeable Plan, the "punishment" is not punishment, but sadism and theater.

###035 4/89d: “But if they (the ones not believing strongly enough in the Quran and in Muhammad*) turn renegades (= leave Islam*), size them and slay them: and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their rank”. Two quotes from the New Testament: “Love your enemies”, “You shall not kill”. The ones believing Allah and Yahweh is the same god, have to study psychology.

Also Jesus and Muhammad definitely were not in the same religion or serving the same god. This even more so as no dead person - Muhammad - can change religion - in "the 11.th hour".

036 4/94f: "- - - with Allah are profits and spoils abundant". One more sentence which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

And what about the effect for the victims? - this never interested Muhammad or the Quran - or Islam, or most Muslims.

037 4/119d: "Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes Satan for a friend - - -". The one does not necessarily implicate the other, especially if Allah just is a dressed up, non-existing pagan god (al-Lah/Allah - simply was the main Arab pagan god at that time). And especially not if there exist other real gods - f.x. Yahweh. (This even more so if Allah is from the dark forces, like some points in the Quran and also in its moral code, etc. may indicate. Compare some points there or in the Sharia law to "do to others like you want others do to you", and weep.)

038 4/130b: "- - - Allah is He that careth for all - - -". But there have not been one single case in the entire history or prehistory where it is proved that Allah cared for anybody at all. Not one single case - only some claims and words.

039 4/153j: "- - - even so We (Allah*) forgave them (the people of Moses*) - - -". The problem of Yahweh contra Allah aside: According to the Bible the god forgave them, but for a price (2. Mos. 32/27-27 and 32/35).

*040 5/15h: “- - - there hath come to you (Jews, Christians*) from Allah a (new) light (Muhammad*) - - -“. Well, that is one of the questions: Did a man so morally degenerated and preaching a religion based on a book with so many mistakes, etc. and so much wrong logic, really represent a god? And did a war religion with a partly immoral moral code represent a benevolent god? Simply "no" to each of the questions.

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######041 5/35g: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b*) in His (Allah’s*) cause - - -”. For us this is one of the most detestable points in the entire Quran and Islam: Fight and steal and rob and mutilate and rape and enslave and hate and murder and get rich and suppress in the name of your god, and as a service to your god - a claimed good and benevolent god!

The same god as Yahweh? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? Don't ask silly questions.

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042 5/40e: "He (Allah*) punisheth whom He pleaseth, and He forgiveth whom He pleaseth - - -". If you think the world is unjust, remember that it is Allah in his unfathomable wisdom who runs it - and accept that Allah is just, even if you do not understand it.

As for Allah forgiving: Also see 2/187d and 67/9c above.

043 5/49e: "- - - it is Allah's purpose to punish them (non-Muslims*)". See 3/77b above.

044 5/50c: "But who - - - can give better judgment than Allah?". Judging from some unjust sharia laws and some immoral parts of the Islamic moral code: Quite a number of judges.

045 5/64h: “Amongst them (the Jews*) We (Allah*) have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief”. And why should you love them when Allah obviously did dislike them? Allah’s dislike is a good motif and explanation for ruthlessness against them. (Muhammad treated the Jews in and around Medina very ruthless – chased away (because too strong opposition did that he could not kill them in the beginning) a large part, enslaved big groups of women and children and murdered the rest of the survivors – except some who for some years were permitted to live as semi slaves on what used to be their own farms, for a very stiff price. Plus he personally raped and enslaved for his own harem at least two of the women after having murdered or enslaved their families – Rayhana bint Amr and Safijja bint Huayay (he later married Safijja)). Well, the verse is good hate propaganda – and hate is a good background for incitements to war, and for explanations for atrocities.

It is irony - but normal - for a religion of war to accuse others for enmity.

Another irony: Muhammad claimed "the others" were the aggressors, but in nearly every case of armed conflict, the Muslims were the aggressive ones - mostly raiding for riches, extortion, rape and slaves.

046 6/25a: "- - - We (Allah*) hath thrown a veil on their hearts, so they understand it not - - -". Allah often denies people the possibilities of finding Islam and believing in it. And then he sends them to Hell as sinners. A fair and benevolent god? - compare to f.x. "The Lost Lamb" or "- - - in the 11. hour - - -" (Luke 15/8-10 and 15/11-31, Matt. 18/12-14 and 20/8-13) in NT: Definitely not the same god as Yahweh. (Islam often tries to explain that it is the person who is the really guilty one, not Allah, because Allah doing things like this grates against claims that Allah is a good and benevolent god. But when they make such explanations, they never mention the fact that according to MANY places in the Quran, Allah decides and predestines everything which happens in the world - and thus everything you do. Thus there is no rational way of getting around what is told here: Allah denies you the possibility to find the way to Paradise if he just decides so.

047 6/45a: "Of the wrongdoers (non-Muslims*) the last remnant was cut off (killed*). Praise be to Allah - - -". Yes, praise be to Allah for that all non-Muslims and sinners there (actually many places) were killed - lots of millions of non-Muslims have been killed or murdered by Muslims. Tales like this in a claimed holy book plus the preaching in accordance with such verses, has its effect on the mentality of the followers. This verse is one of the reasons for the disregard Muslims have for non-Muslims ("half human value? - or less?" - from a recent public debate in Pakistan), and the disregard for other peoples' property and well-being and lives: Rape a girl in Eritrea - it is "lawful and good" as we call this a Jihad, and her well-being does not interest neither us nor Islam. Kill an American - if he had been old enough, he had had to pay tax to America, and thus he is guilty of fighting Islam and merits to be killed (believe it or not, but this argument really is not only used, but widespread: "All Americans are guilty and can be killed, because they have to pay tax to USA" - - - Jihad = "self defense in the widest meaning of the word", so wide that it is a parody - or dishonesty).

####048 6/45b: "Of the wrongdoers (non-Muslims*) the last remnant was cut off (killed*). Praise be to Allah - - -". This "Praise be to Allah" is one of the points which makes Islam a morally sick and distasteful religion. A claimed benevolent and good god who is to be praised for stealing, rape, repeated atrocities, apartheid, and mass murder, and for the reason that they had another and perhaps better religion only, is distasteful outside our vocabulary, and as wrong morally. We are sorry - we have big vocabularies from lives in reading and learning, but we do not have strong enough words for this.

##049 6/107a: “If it had not been Allah’s Plan, they (non-Muslims*) would not have taken false gods - - -” There is a certain class of people who find out where people wants to go, then runs in front of them, telling everyone that they are leading the people. You often find them in politics and in organizations. They make us think of this verse. If only Allah willed - - -! In addition: HOW - H O W!! - can an omniscient and omnipotent god presumed to be a good and benevolent god, damn humans to Hell for taking other gods, when they did so because of his own Plan???! This also is incompatible with the Bible.

050 6/110a: "We (Allah*) (too) shall turn to (confusion) their hearts and their ("unbelievers'*) eyes - - -". Jesus and Yahweh were searching for "the lost sheep". Muhammad and Allah make their way back to belief difficult or impossible. The same god? No.

051 6/110b: "We (Allah*) shall leave them ("unbelievers") in their trespasses - - -." See 6/110a just above.

052 6/111b: “- - - they (non-Muslims*) are not the ones to believe, unless it is Allah’s Plan”. This is even worse than 6/107a above - Allah simply has made it impossible for non-Muslims to become Muslims, if it does not fit him. But still he condemns them to Hell!!! Predestination at its worst - perhaps except when luring people to their death or mutilation in battle.

No comment could possibly explain our point of view or distaste.

053 6/112d: "If thy (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) had so planned, they (non-Muslims*) would not have done it (believed in other gods*) - - -". What kind of claimed good god is planning so as to send millions and even billions of humans - and jinns - to Hell?!!

054 6/125e: "- - - those (humans*) He (Allah*) willet to leave straying, He maketh their breast close and constricted (and makes believing difficult or impossible for them*) - - -". Here are more of the huge and fundamental differences between the Quran and NT: Actively close their hearts vs. search for the lost sheep. Not the same god by far.

055 7/4b: “How many towns have We (Allah) destroyed (for their sins)?” Some complain about Yahweh being harsh in OT. Some claim that Allah is a good and benevolent good. But if you read the Quran, you will find that Allah has destroyed and killed many more than Yahweh - and if Allah = Yahweh like the Quran and Islam claim, Allah has made all the destruction and killing in the Bible, too (under the name of Yahweh), plus all the destruction and killing in the Quran, plus all the destruction and killing his followers have done till now through history, in accordance with the Quran, plus all the destruction and killings the Muslims do today and will do in the future in accordance with the Quran's incitements and orders. A good and benevolent god and religion? The religion of peace? The claims are insults to the intelligence of anyone who have studied the facts with an open mind. (One may counter that also Christians have caused destruction and deaths. But for one thing: Read the NT and you will see it is in spite of the texts there - even though the Bible sometimes has been disused for purposes of power or wealth - not because of the "holy" texts, like in the Quran. Even in OT the fighting was for a nation, not for a religion. And for another: Bad deeds by non-Muslims do not make bad deeds made by Muslims one molecule or atom better. And especially not so when it is done by religious demands and orders from their god - orders which are stated to last forever until everybody else are "thoroughly suppressed" under the Muslims.

056 7/18: "- - - Hell will I (Allah*) fill with you all". A god who fills a hell with predestined victims, is he a good and benevolent god?

###057 7/28b: “Allah never commands what is shameful - - -.” This is contradicted by several points in the Quran, f.x.:

  1. 2/230: “If a husband divorces his wife (irrevocably), he cannot, after that, remarry her until after she has married another husband and he has divorced her.” This situation is not common, but it does happen in a culture where divorce is as easy as in Islam. In Islam the woman then has to prostitute herself in legal forms, to be permitted to do so (the intermediate marriage has to be a “fulfilled" one).
  2. Enslaving is “lawful and good”.
  3. Killing and murdering and war are not only good and lawful, but the best service to Allah.
  4. A raped woman who cannot produce 4 male witnesses to the very act, is to be punishes severely for indecency.
  5. Allah commands/permits sex with children. For an adult to enjoy sex with a child is utterly shameful. For an adult to introduce a child to sex is inhuman and even more shameful. Muhammad even demonstrated that it was ok at least from the girl is 9 – and worse: She – Aishah - became his favorite wife the rest of her childhood.
  6. Allah commands that one can take slaves in a jihad - and any skirmish or war where Muslims are involved, is declared jihad. For centuries (till ca. 1930 – 1940) all the four law schools of Islam said that if the opposite parts were pagans, this was good enough reason to declare jihad – which means that at least theoretically any slave hunter in Africa or Asia could claim to be waging jihad. To force fellow humans to become slaves, to toil for free for you, to be free for you to sell or mistreat or use for a sex toy, is utterly inhuman, utterly selfish, utterly immoral – and utterly shameful. Not to mention that it is a grotesque act to commit in the name of a presumed god and benevolent good.
  7. To rape a child captive/slave/victim is grotesquely selfish, immoral, inhuman and grotesquely shameful - - - but Allah has commanded that it is ok if the child is mot pregnant - and over 9 years according to Islam (the age of Aishah when Muhammad started to have sex with her - anything Muhammad did is just and right), though no lower age limit is really stated.
  8. To rape any woman prisoner/slave/victim – a fellow human being – is nearly as selfish and shameful and bad as raping a child. But in the Quran it is “good and lawful” if the woman is not pregnant. That it is "lawful and good" may be a reason why rape is so common by Muslim warriors/soldiers. (Another possible reason is that empathy is not an integrated part of Islam - and the same with moral philosophy).
  9. To murder opponents – also personal opponents – in the name of a presumably good god is something much more than shameful.
  10. To incite to discrimination, hate and war, in the name of a presumably good god is even worse than this again – and a proof for a god or a “prophet” full of hypocrisy.
  11. To steal/rob/plunder and extort in the name of such a god – and with his permission as “good and lawful” - is nearly a bad and as much hypocrisy as raping and killing and apartheid/suppression. And to do so in the name of a god, makes the god, the religion and the acts even more perverted and distasteful. But all these points have this in common:
    1. They attract selfish warriors to a robber “prophet’s” army – and to his successors’.
    2. They attract greedy warriors to a robber “prophet’s” army – and to his successors’.
    3. They attract inhuman warriors to a robber “prophet’s” army – and to his successors’.
    4. They attract primitive warriors to a robber “prophet’s” army – and to his successors’.
    5. It is a cheap way for a robber “prophet” – and for his successors – to get an army – a cheap army and an inhuman army.
     

    Finally: Severe or capital punishment for a woman who has been raped, but is unable to produce 4 male eye witnesses to the very act, most likely is the most inhuman, most immoral, most unjust, and most shameful law we have ever come across in any at least half civilized religion or culture, and Allah/Muhammad has introduced this law.

    058 7/72b: "- - - We (Allah*) cut off the roots of the (non-Muslims*) - - -". See 3/77b above.

    ##059 7/89d: “- - - nor could we (humans*) by any manner or means return thereto (the right way*), unless it be as in the will and plan of Allah - - -:” According to the Quran it is Allah who decides whether you believe in him and live like a good Muslim or not. But all the same if you do not believe in him and live accordingly, he punishes you with Hell. A fair, good and benevolent god??!

    060 7/101e: "Thus doth Allah seal up the hearts of those who reject Faith (Islam*)". One more 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. Read f.x. Luke 15/8-10 and 15/11-31 plus Matt. 18/12-14 and 20/8-13 and get a good laugh - or weep - over the claim that Allah = Yahweh.

    061 7/179b: “Many are the Jinn and men We (Allah*) have made for Hell - - -.” Here Allah tells that many of the men and Jinns he had made, were made for Hell. But this is contradicted with that all men and Jinns are made to serve Allah:

    1. 51/56: “I (Allah*) have only created jinns and men, that they may serve Me.”
     

    - - - or does the bloody and immoral parts of services Muhammad/Allah demand, condemn you to Hell afterwards?

    Besides: What kind of a god is Allah if he makes humans and other beings for Hell?

    062 8/1d: “(The spoils of war*) “are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” All that was stolen and looted and robbed in raids and war included, slaves and prisoners for extorting money (this early – 624 AD – it mainly was raids to steal/rob/extort) belonged to Allah – represented by his envoy on earth: Muhammad. But his officers and warriors were too greedy to accept this – they wanted a share of the stolen riches, too. So a bit later in the surah – a few “revelations” later (?) there came a contra order – and abrogation:

    1. ###8/41: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah - - -.” Muhammad had to give the warriors their share – except that he saved everything for himself in the cases where the victims gave in without fighting – then the warriors had done nothing and could not demand a share. Muhammad needed riches. Though it is likely it is true he was not much interested in much luxury, he needed riches for bribes/"gifts" and for waging war to get more power and more riches, included slaves – war cost money even if he paid his warriors with religion and religious promises, then all the same food and equipment cost money – and he needed riches for “gift” to attract more warriors/followers/believers and to keep some of the lukewarm-warm ones - - - and some for social use (help to the poor). Muslims try to explain away this contradiction and abrogation, by saying that it all belongs to Allah/the leader, but 80% is given to the warriors/robbers. But the moment it becomes a right for the robbers in raids and warriors in war, the rank and file’s share no longer belongs to the leader.
     

    Are Yahweh and Allah the same god? Or Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? The rules of war - and of spoils of war - are strong mathematical strength proofs to the fifth power for that none of those two never documented claims are true.

    063 8/12a: “I (Allah*) will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers - - -". If Allah is omnipotent, why did he then not install enough terror to make them flee without a battle? Is Allah a small boy sitting at his PC playing "exiting" battles on his screen?

    064 8/17a: "It is not ye (Muslims*) who slew them; it was Allah - - -". = By killing for Muhammad, you are doing the work of the god.

    ###065 9/39a: “Unless ye (Muslims*) go forth (in war/battle for Islam/Muhammad*), He (Allah*) will punish you with a grievous penalty (normally in the Quran a synonym for Hell*) - - -”. An order not possible to misunderstand for a pious - or fanatic - Muslim.

    Yes, a religion built on peace, goodness and heavenly ethics.

    THIS IS THE ORDER ALSO TODAY - JUST LISTEN TO SOME IMAMS, ETC. - see 9/38d.

    THIS VERSE TELLS HORRIBLY MUCH ABOUT ISLAM AS IT IS TAUGHT IN THE QURAN.

    One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - not to mention that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion.

    066 9/86a: “When a surah comes down (to Muhammad*), enjoining them to believe in Allah and strive and struggle (= make war*) with His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - - (some do not want to go to war - they prefer to stay with the women, not a nice reputation for an Arab in 631 AD, not to mention for a Bedouin warrior*)”. But after all not every Muslim liked – or likes – war. Also this should be remembered - far from all Muslims are bad.

    067 9/111d: “- - - they (warriors/terrorists*) fight in His (Allah’s (or Muhammad’s?*)) cause, and slay and are slain: (and get great reward in Paradise*)”. Can anyone really read the Quran - even a Muslim - and afterwards believe the Quran represents a good, peaceful, benevolent god? One is reminded of the blood orgies of the Mayas and Incas, except that Islam mostly kills at the spot - like the Assyrians. And "the Religion of Peace"?? Wrong.

    ####068 9/113d: "It is not fitting, for the Prophet and those who believe, that they should pray forgiveness for Pagans, even though they be of kin - - -". This cynical sentence tells a few megabytes about the Quran, about Muhammad, and about Islam - not to mention about the Quran's and Islam's moral code. Even if this was the only difference between the Bible and the Quran, this alone had been a 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. And remember: Science has proved far beyond any even unreasonable doubt, that the Bible and especially the NT is not falsified in spite of Muhammad's never proved claims - may be some mistakes, but no falsifications. The best proof for this is Islam: If one single real falsification had been found, Islam had screamed about it to every living being on Earth, included rats and worms. No such scream has ever been heard.

    As for OT also the fact that Jesus accepted it without warning, both to Christians and Muslims, and to most Jews and historians, prove that OT was not falsified at his time - not before 33 AD. Combine the Biblical parts of the Qumran scrolls to this - most of OT from 150-50 BC practically identically to our OT - and you have one more solid proof also for that OT never was falsified.

    069 9/117f: "- - - He (Allah*) is - - - Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

    070 9/118e: "- - - Allah is Most Merciful - - -". See 1/1a above.

    071 9/127b: "- - - Allah hath turned their (non-Muslims'*) hearts (from the light) - - -". A good and benevolent god? But then; how much light is there in a book so full of errors and worse, that it is not from any god?

    072 10/19b: "Had it not been for a Word that went forth before from thy Lord, their differences would have been settled between them (our distant ancestors*)". An obscure sentence, but it tells that Allah wanted disagreement among humans.

    073 10/100b: "No soul can believe, except by the Will of Allah, and He will place Doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand." Similar comment to 10/100a, but much stronger, especially since their inability to understand is because of the brain Allah gave them, and because in spite of a bad quality brain he all the same could have made them believe: Order "Be" and it is for Allah.

    074 11/37b: "- - - address Me (Allah*) no (further) on behalf of those who are in sin - - -". What a contrast to "the lost sheep" and "the eleventh hour" in NT. Allah and Yahweh the same god? No. The new Covenant in NT similar to the Medina surahs? No - only if you are on a bad "acid" trip. The fundamental principles of the religions are too different - and we remind you one cannot blame a falsified Bible, as science clearly has proved that this never proved claim from Muhammad, is wrong - - - and Islam has proved it even stronger.

    075 11/118b: “If thy Lord (Allah*) had so willed, He could have made mankind one People - - -”. Either Allah really likes strife and war - really a benevolent god - or in reality he is unable to do this. Like someone bragging to impress acquaintances or girls.

    076 11/119c: "I (Allah*) will fill Hell with jinns (a being from old Arab pagan religion, legends, and fairy tales*) and men all together." A benevolent and good god? - Hell is no nice place, and he will fill it. Try to find something like this in the Gospels. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

    077 12/110b: "But never will be warded off Our (Allah's*) punishment from those who are in sin." We are back to the old fact: This only is true if Allah exists and is a major god - and if the Quran has described him correctly even without the help from any god.

    078 13/27h: "Truly Allah leaveth to stray, whom He will - - -". For comparison; "the lost sheep", "the 11. hour", etc. in NT (Luke 15/8-10 or 15/11-31, Matt. 18/12-14 or 20/8-13).

    079 13/31j: "- - - He (Allah*) could have guided all mankind - - -". If this were true, it would tell volumes about the good and benevolent god who instead sends the majority of the humanity - and jinns - to Hell, (by means of his predestination).

    080 14/4c: “- - - Allah leaves straying those whom He pleases, and guides whom he pleases - - -.” Not the same god who was behind NT. See f.x. "the lost sheep".

    081 14/47d: "- - - (Allah is*) the Lord of Retribution". In that case f.x. 3/77b may be understandable.

    082 14/51d: "- - - Allah is Swift in calling to account". See 3/77b above.

    #083 15/12-13: "Even so do We (Allah*) let it creep into the hearts of the sinners - That they should not believe in the (Message (the Quran*))." No-one who honestly claim that Allah and Yahweh is the same god, has ever read NT with an open mind. The fundamental differences are too deep and too big. f.x. Allah who here hinders sinners from believing. Yahweh/Jesus goes far out of his/their way to save them - "the lost lamb" (or sheep), etc. - even in "the 11. hour" = up to the very last moment. (Luke 15/8-10 - 15/11-31, Matt. 18/12-14 - 20/8-13)

    084 16/35d: “If Allah had so willed, we (man*) should not have worshipped aught but Him - - -”. There is logic in this - - - if he is a good, benevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent god.

    But there also is a horrible fact: If Allah could have done all this, but all the same lets billions of men and jinns end in Hell, there only is one possible explanation: He is no good and benevolent god - if he is a god - on the contrary; he is extremely inhuman and harsh. More likely from the dark forces than from Heaven.

    Or is his claimed ability to do so just boasting?

    085 16/93d: "- - - He (Allah*) guides whom He pleases - - -". Allah/Muhammad guides whom Allah pleases. Jesus/Yahweh guides anyone who wishes honestly enough to qualify. The same god? Simply no.

    086 17/97g: "- - - he whom Allah leaves astray - for such wilt thou (man*) find no protector besides Him (Allah*)". At least as far as believers in Yahweh are concerned, the Bible disagrees.

    087 18/28c: "- - - those whose hearts We (Allah*) have permitted to neglect the remembrance of Us - - -". = non-Muslims (= dismissed by Allah = no good ones). As you understand, it is Allah who decides who can stay outside Islam - at least according to the Quran (actually it has to be so, as Allah decides and predestines absolutely everything according to Muhammad and the Quran).

    088 18/29f: "- - - for the wrongdoers We (Allah*) have prepared a Fire - - -". See 3/77b above.

    089 18/57e: "Verily (it definitely is no proved verity/truth*) We (Allah*) have set veil over their (sinners'*) hearts lest they should understand this - - -". Allah refuses them to find the right way, and then punishes them for not finding it - all history shows that at least a few had found it if they had the chance. Yahweh the same god as Allah? Nyet - a strong English word for NO.

    090 18/101a: "(Unbelievers) whose eyes had been under a veil from Remembrance of Me (Allah*), and who had been unable to hear". Allah made it impossible for them to search for Paradise, but he is going to punish them strictly for it. No comments except: Yahweh and Allah the same god? Very obviously no.

    091 19/74a: "But how many (countless) generations before them have We (Allah*) destroyed - - -?" Benevolent god?

    092 19/79b: "- - - and We (Allah*) shall add and add to his (non-Muslim's*) punishment". See 3/77b above.

    093 20/128b: "- - - how many generations before them We (Allah*) destroyed - - -". A Most Merciful, Most Forgiving, benevolent and good god?".

    094 21/84a: "- - - and We (Allah*) restored his (Job's*) people to him - - -". And all was well? Not a word about the loss the ones who had to die had had - the main person is rich again, and that is what counts. Empathy with the less essential ones does not exist in the Quran.

    095 22/10b: "- - - for verily Allah is not unjust unto His servants". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. If Allah does not exist - there are only unproved claims for him - he is neither just nor unjust unto anybody. But: Some of the sharia laws are among the most unjust laws which have ever existed - f.x. to punish a raped woman who cannot bring 4 male witnesses who actually saw the rape, and some laws concerning raids and wars. (Besides: That thieving and atrocities are permitted when fighting for the god, morally, ethically, and religiously is worse and more depraved than if the permissions had been general - a more than immoral law even then.)

    096 24/33c: "But if anyone compels them (slave women*), yet, after such compulsion, is Allah Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them)". Women who were forced to prostitution, did not sin - they were forced to do it. But it tells something that Islam needed such a verse - - - and that the omnipotent and predestining Allah can permit such things, ###yes, if the Quran is correct and Allah really decides and predestines everything, he even predestines and decides that forced prostitution is to happen.

    ###097 27/50: “They (non-Muslims*) plotted and planned, but We (Allah*) too planned - - -.” As said other places: When Allah can deceive, any good Muslim of course can do the same. THIS IS ONE OF THE VERSES WHICH MAKES THE "MORAL" FOUNDATION FOR AL-TAQIYYA (THE LAWFUL LIE), KITMAN (THE LAWFUL HALF-TRUTH), ETC. - WHEN ALLAH COULD DECEIVE, IT OF COURSE WAS/IS MORALLY OK TO DO SO. Muhammad institutionalized it by his points of view on deceit and breaking of even oaths. (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

    Just for the record: Al-Taqiyya, Kitman, and Hilah can be used at least in these cases (for broken oaths there are given no real limitations if the broken oath will give a better result. By implication this also goes for ordinary promises, as an oath is something stronger than a normal promise):

    1. To save your or others' health or life.
    2. To get out of a tight spot or a dangerous problem.
    3. To make peace in a family.
    4. When it will give a better result than honesty or honoring one’s oath.
    5. To cheat women (should be remembered by girls with Muslim boyfriends wanting sex - or wanting a marriage to get work/residence permit in a rich country.)
    6. To deceive opponents/enemies.
    7. To betray enemies.
    8. To secure one’s money (very clear from Hadiths).
    9. To defend Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)
    10. To promote Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)
     

    But al-Taqiyya is a double-edged sword: In the short run you may cheat and deceive some ones – actually also in the long run if the opposite part does not know about this side of Muslims and of Islam, or if he/she is naïve. But most people fast grow skeptical - and how do Muslims strengthen their words even when speaking the truth, when people know that even oaths are not reliable?.

    098 32/13j: “If We (Allah*) so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, ‘I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together’”. Here are two more differences between Yahweh and Allah:

    1. Yahweh did not have this choice because man really had free will.
    2. Yahweh tries to get as many as possible to Heaven (Luke 15/8-10 + 15/11-31 and Matt. 18/12-14 + 20/8/13). Allah has early made a conscious decision to fill Hell with "Jinns and men altogether".
     

    The same god? Impossible.

    ###099 33/60e: "- - - We (Allah*) shall certainly stir thee (Muslims*) up against them (bad or not Muslims*) - - -". To twist an old proverb: This sentence alone tells more than a 1000 choice slogans about "the religion of peace". What you say when you forget to guard your words or do not think it necessary, always by far is more reliable than carefully chosen claims.

    100 33/64c: "Verily, Allah has cursed the Unbelievers - - -". Only perhaps true if Allah exists and is a major god - - - and if the Quran in addition has told the full truth and only the truth about him.

    101 35/26d: "- - - how (terrible) was My (Allah's*) rejection (of them) (non-Muslims*)!" The good and benevolent and forgiving god?

    102 40/33c: "- - - any whom Allah leaves to stray - - -". Allah frequently leaves people to stray - according to Hadiths he even decides whom to send to Hell 5 months before they are born. Quite a difference to NT to say the least of it. One more strong indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 40/33b.

    103 40/35g: "Thus doth Allah seal up every heart - of arrogant and obstinate and transgressors." See "the lost lamb/sheep" or "the 11. hour". Not the same god as in NT.

    104 40/74b: "Thus does Allah leave the Unbelievers to stray". This he only can do if he exists and in addition is a god. If not their behavior is because of something else.

    Besides: Compare this to "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep" (Matt.18/12-14), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), "the 11. hour" (Matt.20/8-13). Not the same gods, Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

    105 44/16a: "- - - We (Allah*) will indeed (then) exact Retribution!" See 3/77b above.

    106 44/16b: "- - - We (Allah*) will indeed (then) exact Retribution!" This Allah can do only if he exists and only if he in addition is a real god.

    107 45/23b: "Allah has - - - sealed his (a non-Muslim*) hearing and his heart (and understanding), and put a cover on his sight (to make it impossible for him to find the way to Paradise*)". Read the NT and see if this can be the same god Jesus told about - f.x about the lost sheep (Matt. 18/12-14). Not by long miles!!

    108 47/13a: "And how many cities - - - have We (Allah*) destroyed (for their sins)?" Muhammad always claimed the abandoned/ruined towns in and around Arabia were destroyed by the powerful and benevolent god Allah, as punishment for sins. Claimed, but NEVER proved. And by the way: How good and benevolent is a god of a claimed "religion of peace" who summarily destroys cities and tribes and cultures "en masse"? Also Yahweh destroyed sometimes in OT, but he is an underdeveloped baby in comparison, when it comes to mass murder.

    Also note that Allah(?) normally stresses that the destroyed communities were bigger and stronger than the Arab ones at the time of Muhammad - it made Allah greater and the impression on Muhammad's followers stronger. There is little of this in the Bible. - May be Yahweh was not small enough to need this kind of boasting?

    109 58/10c: "- - - but he (the Devil*) cannot harm them (people/Muslims*) in the least (= make them sin*), except as Allah permits - - -". But how then can Allah punish man for sins Allah has permitted - even via the Devil - (and according to other verses in the Quran even decided by predestination)??

    And: ####Does this mean that Allah is the real ruler also of Hell, like many Muslim scholars believe (because if Allah is omnipotent, it is not possible for the Devil to work, unless Allah permits it)? What does this in case tell about the claimed "good and benevolent" god Allah?

    110 65/5e: "- - - if anyone fears Allah, He will remove his (not her - Islam is a man's religion*) ills from him, and will enlarge his reward". Only possible - possible - if Allah exists and is a god. (Allah may exist and even be a god and not do this all the same, if not the Quran has told the full truth and only the truth about him.)

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    It also is pretty thought provoking that f.x. all the errors, contradictions, wrong facts, etc., only and alone, in the Quran prove 100% that there is no god behind that book. And that f.x. the fact that Jesus accepted OT as correct, proves to both Christians and Muslims, plus to most Jews and historians, that the OT was not falsified at that time - and that the Qumran scrolls prove that even OT was not falsified any time later, too.

    It further is an insult to that possible god to "explain" that his texts means something different from what they really says = you are more clever than him at explaining what the god "really" meant, than the god is himself, even when he tries to explain things "clearly and easy to understand", and says his words are to be understood literally and without hidden meanings. Also only "the sick of heart" look for hidden meanings behind his words, according to the Quran - the very claimed hidden meanings the wise Muslims claim are what Allah really meant, but was unable to express clearly himself, so that they have to help the bumbling god and tell what he "really" tried to say. This in spite of that the Quran clearly states that meanings hidden behind Allah's clear and easy to understand words, only are possible for Allah to understand, and like said above are "only for the sick of heart" to look for.

    May be as bad: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts clearly say, is to falsify the quranic texts.

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