Allah in the Quran, Chapter 41

 

Chapter 41

ALLAH -- A JUST GOD?

 

001 According to the words in the Quran, Allah is a very just god. But for one thing it is not true - f.x. a law like the one demanding that a raped woman shall be punished for unlawful sex if she cannot produce 4 male witnesses who saw the actual rape, is one of the of the most unjust and immoral laws which ever existed. And for another parts of Allah's moral and judicial codes are from unjust and immoral to very unjust and very immoral - cfr. f.x. "do to others like you want others do to you" and Allah's(?) acceptance of the use of dishonesty (like al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie, Kitman - the lawful half-truth, Hilah - the lawful pretending/circumventing, lawful deceit and betrayal, lawful disuse/breaking of words/promises/oaths - 2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah can cheat, cheating is ok - but how much cheating is it then in the Quran? - by Allah or by Muhammad). When someone - even a god - judges from immoral and strongly immoral laws and moral codes, or from lawful use of dishonesty, not even a god can be just.

002 "Words are cheap, reality tells the truth".

####### Another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt and falsify it it.

Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. #### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 known versions accepted by Islam of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions through the times) - is in case the correct one?

Another point is that personally we doubt that even a devil would use a claimed holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, etc. like the Quran - he had to know the errors sooner or later would be discovered, and the book and its maker would lose all credence and credibility.

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power, riches for bribes for more power, and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable is that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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#003 2/7b: “Allah hath set seal on their (non-Muslims*) hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).” Do they really incur it when it is according to Allah’s Plan (see 6/107)? - and when Allah destroys their possibilities for seeing that they are wrong (if they are wrong)? Some Muslims (f.x. A2/7) even claim - like mostly without documentation - that "it is a natural law instituted by Allah" that if you lie, after some time you lose the ability to see the truth (thought-provoking for Islam and it's al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and Muhammad's advices in the Quran about breaking even your oaths if that gives a better result?), which is untrue, as it only becomes easier to resort to lies. What kind of god is this? One more Muslim lose claim (f.x. Azad: If you reject Allah, "the result (is*) that the spiritual faculties become dead - - -". Some claim from a culture and a religion which brought forth not one single new idea benefiting humanity for at least 800 years from 1095 AD and "the greatest Muslim after Muhammad; al-Ghazali and his killing of philosophy/new thinking - use of spiritual faculties - (by means of his book "On the Incoherence of the Philosophers"). (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

#########004 2/225a: “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your heart”. If you swear an oath without thinking it over - or not enough over – you are not bound by it. But how are other people to know if the oath you have made is binding for you or not - or if you will break it? Besides; you may break also a more serious oath if that will give a better result, but you may have to pay expiation to Allah for it. See f.x. 2/224e-f above. (Also 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah can cheat, cheating is ok - but how much cheating is it then in the Quran?.))

005 3/108d: "- - - Allah means no injustice to any of His creatures". Read the unjust parts of the sharia laws, the immoral parts of Islam's moral code, Islam's rules for behavior during and after raids and wars, etc. and weep. Also see 1/1a above.

###006 4/40a: “Allah is never unjust in the last degree - - -.” Wrong. Examples: Suppression of others (non-Muslims) is “good and lawful and just” . The same is stealing and robbing if it is possible to find an excuse to call it jihad (to do things like that in the name of the god makes it extra disgusting) – and the same for rape of any not pregnant female captive or slave. But a top of injustice is: A raped woman is to be punished strongly for indecency if she cannot produce 4 male witnesses to the actual rape - nearly always impossible. Allah in the Quran at times is extremely unjust.

Another point is that this is one of the places where Muhammad knew he was lying in the Quran. F.x. stealing/looting was normal practice in Arabia, but there is no way for the follower of a good and benevolent god to honestly believe that to steal and rob are just deeds. The same goes for hurting or killing others - f.x. in a war or fight not in real self defense. A third sample is taking slaves - impossible to justify morally (but easy economically if you see it only from your own side). F.x. even the old Greeks with their advanced and deep moral thinking, were unable to find a general moral justification for taking slaves. And rape - destroying other human's lives just for your own pleasure! But to Muhammad and the Quran and thus to Islam it is "lawful and good" and to be enjoyed (8/69). A cheap way for Muhammad to get warriors - and a nice life for many a Muslim man - but unjust to a high power - - - and no way for an intelligent man like Muhammad not to know this.

007 4/77h: "- - - never will ye (Muslims*) be dealt with (by Allah*) unjustly in the very least!" If Allah exists, if he is a major god, and if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth about him. But also see 4/77h just below.

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######008 5/35g: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b*) in His (Allah’s*) cause - - -”. For us this is one of the most detestable points in the entire Quran and Islam: Fight and steal and rob and mutilate and rape and enslave and hate and murder and get rich and suppress in the name of your god, and as a service to your god - a claimed good and benevolent god!

The same god as Yahweh? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion? Don't ask silly questions.

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009 6/57g: "- - - He (Allah*) is the best of judges". Not if he judges according to some parts of the morality code in the Quran, and some of the rules in sharia - a couple of those are the most horrible and unjust laws we have met in any judicial system.

010 6/125f: "- - - those (humans*) He (Allah*) willet to leave straying, He maketh their breast close and constricted (and makes believing difficult or impossible for them*) - - -". Is Allah a good god? - and is he a fair or benevolent or just god blocking the road to belief, and then punishing the victim and damning his/her to Hell for not believing!

011 7/29a: “My Lord (Allah*) has commanded justice - - -“. This only is partly true. See 7/28b above.

012 7/87c: “- - - hold yourselves (“infidels”*) in patience until Allah doth decide between us: for He is the best to decide.” This may be true only if Allah exists and is a god + that there is no greater and more just god anywhere (in spite of the Quran's claims, Allah as he is described in the Quran, is not very just to say the least of it - just read the harsh parts of the sharia laws and the immoral parts of the Quran's moral rules and see for yourself.

##013 7/89d: “- - - nor could we (humans*) by any manner or means return thereto (the right way*), unless it be as in the will and plan of Allah - - -:” According to the Quran it is Allah who decides whether you believe in him and live like a good Muslim or not. But all the same if you do not believe in him and live accordingly, he punishes you with Hell. A fair, good and benevolent god??!

#####014 10/35i: "How judge ye?" We judge that religion and a possible eternal life is too serious a matter to accept that mistakes, contradictions, lies, etc., etc. can be hidden when trying to find out if a god/gods exist(s), and in case which one(s) is/are true and which not. Only complete honesty can lead to a correct answer in such a question - and the Quran/Islam most likely is the most dishonest of all big religions - the only one who on top of all not only accepts, but advocates the use of dishonesty on central points "if necessary" to win a discussion - not to find the truth, but to win a discussion or a new believer.

015 11/45d: "- - - Thou (here indicated to be Allah*) are the Justest of Judges". See 1/1a and study the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code plus the unjust and/or immoral parts of sharia, and see if you agree.

016 16/90a: "Allah commands justice - - -". Contradicted by f.x. the sharia law demanding strict punishment for a raped woman if she cannot show 4 male witnesses who have actually seen the rape (and who in many cases will be punished for not helping her) - perhaps the most horribly unjust and shameful law which exists on this whole Earth. The quote also is contradicted by the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code.

017 16/90e: "- - - He (Allah*) forbids - - - injustice - - -". There are lots of injustice in Islam - most of it, but not all, directed against non-Muslims. Discrimination, suppression, loop-sided laws, treatment of females - free or captured - to mention some. Only Muslims are so used to that this is "lawful and good", that most of them honestly believe it is morally good and right.

018 16/111c: "- - - none will be unjustly dealt with". Not if Allah exists, the Quran is from him, and it in addition tells the plain and full truth only. With one reservation: What is the definition for "unjustly" in the Quran and Islam? - there are rules among the most unjust you are able to find in any culture.

019 18/49d: "- - - and not one will thy (humans'*) Lord (Allah*) treat with injustice". If Allah has predestined everything man does, like the Quran states many places, it is VERY unjust to punish him/her for bad conduct he has forced them to commit. And for that case to reward others for good conduct he has made them do. Also there is no fair connection between the after all not too serious sins many sinners have committed and the sadistic, everlasting punishment they get in the claimed next life by the claimed good and benevolent god Allah.

020 21/112a: "O my (Muhammad's*) Lord (Allah*)! Judge Thou in truth". Impossible if he does not exist. Improbable if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces (he is no god if he is behind the Quran - too much is wrong in that book). (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

021 22/10b: "- - - for verily Allah is not unjust unto His servants". This definitely is no proved verity/truth. If Allah does not exist - there are only unproved claim for him - he is neither just nor unjust unto anybody. But: Some of the sharia laws are among the most unjust laws which have ever existed - f.x. to punish a raped woman who cannot bring 4 male witnesses who actually saw the rape, and some laws concerning raids and wars. (Besides: That thieving and atrocities are permitted when fighting for the god, morally, ethically, and religiously is worse and more depraved than if the permissions had been general.)

022 22/56d: "He (Allah*) will judge - - -". Not unless he exists - and if he in case happens he belongs to the dark forces, we would prefer he did not judge - some of the Quran's moral and judicial rules are horrible (compare to "do unto others like you want others do unto you", and see for yourself).

023 22/69a: "Allah will judge between you (non-Muslims*) - - -". Not possible unless he exists and is something supernatural (and if he belongs to the dark forces, this may be not good). Besides: If he judges from the Quran's moral code and/or from the Sharia laws, will he be a just judge?

###024 24/15c: "- - - it (this refers to the hours his child wife Aisha spent alone in the desert with a young man, and the - probably wrong - slander this caused*) was most serious in the sight of Allah". Slander may be a serious, but not a most serious sin - that word you have to reserve for robbery, rape, dishonesty, slave taking, torture, terrorism, murder, mass murder, etc. - and if you are religious; for the gravest sins against the god(s) like f.x. making up competing gods and/or disusing a god/gods for personal gains like riches for keeping or for use (f.x. for bribes), respect and power.

If on the other hand Allah was a made up platform of power for Muhammad and his co-workers, well, then it might have been most serious for him (Muhammad) as it touched Muhammad, at least if there exists a real god somewhere. F.x. if Muhammad started off originally wanting to serve the old Jewish and Christian god he had heard about, but somewhere stumbled out from "the narrow road" of Yahweh and on to "the straight and easy road". #####(This is one of the possible explanations, especially as science tends to think that Muhammad believed in something when he started his mission, but over time became more "relaxed" and scheming and like so many a leader was morally destroyed by his success and power.)

But honestly: What has the family problems of Muhammad to do in a claimed holy book for all times and all the world, not to mention: How is it possible for a god to revere texts like this? (Remember that the Quran is an exact copy of "the Mother of the Book" in Heaven, which according to the Quran is revered by Allah and his angels there.) ###Yes, how is it possible that this episode is described in a "mother book" billions of years before it happened, unless predestination is total, free will exactly zero point zero zero, and we all just are puppets-on-strings? ##########And where is then the justice in rewards and punishments?

##025 26/209: “- - - and We (Allah) never are unjust”.

  1. A man correctly telling that a woman has been indecent, is lying to Allah if he cannot produce 4 witnesses - even if an omniscient Allah has to know he is speaking the truth.
  2. A woman who has been raped, is forbidden to tell who it was, unless she can produce 4 MALE witnesses WHO HAS ACTUALLY SEEN THE ACT. If she cannot produce 4 such witnesses, and all the same tells who the rapist is, she shall have 80 whiplashes for slander.
  3. ##A woman who is raped and cannot produce 4 MALE witnesses (that on top of all will be punished for not helping her if they witness about what they saw) who saw the very act, is to be strictly punished – may be stoned – for indecency - if she is unable to hide that she has been raped - . Probably the most unjust and amoral law we have ever seen in a “modern” society.
  4. It is 100% permitted for an owner to rape his female slaves or captives of war (may be this is why Muslims so often rape women during conflicts - f.x. earlier in Bangladesh and earlier and now in Africa). The Quran even directly tells that it is no sin to rape also your married slaves or prisoners of war, as long as they are not pregnant. NB: As for raping a captive there is an even more disgusting fact: It has to be done in the name of Allah - during or after a jihad ("holy war" - practically all conflicts are declared jihad if possible).
  5. ##It is glorious and the Muslims’ right to steal, rob, plunder, rape, enslave and to kill non-Muslims during jihad - and almost any conflict is declared jihad (holy war) if possible. It is “just and good”.

There are more if you look. Pleas never tell us that Allah as described in the Quran, never is unjust. These 5 points - and more - are morally horrible. Some of it actually the most unjust we have ever seen in any law. And rape in the name of Allah perhaps the most disgusting.

#026 27/51: "- - - We (Allah*) destroyed them (the 9 sinners*) and their people (all of them)". But did anyone but the sinners deserve death? - "a parent shall not be punished for what the child does" according to the Quran, and the child shall not be punished for what the parents do. (If you belong to the ones blaming Yahweh for being a bit bloody in OT, please read a little about the claimed history of Allah.)

027 28//81: It is told other places in the Quran that also Qarun's whole family, included the children, was killed, even though there nowhere is said that they were guilty of anything. A fair god?

028 40/20c: "And Allah will judge with (justice) and Truth - - -". Not always if he is judging according to the sharia laws. Some of these laws are among the most unjust and immoral laws which have ever existed on this Earth - f.x. a raped woman is to be punished for illegal sex if she cannot bring 4 male witnesses who have seen the very act, and are willing to witness in spite of risking punishment for not helping her. Or a man correctly blaming a woman for unlawful sex, but unable to produce 4 male witnesses, is guilty of slander ONTO ALLAH (!!!) even if the omniscient - according to Islam - Allah has to know he is speaking the truth. And non-Muslims cannot witness against Muslims. Stealing, enslaving and raping are "lawful and good" as soon as it can be called part of a jihad - and "everything" is jihad, etc. (actually to permit such crimes and inhumanities in the name of Allah, makes them even more detestable). And not to forget al-Taqiyya, Kitman, Hilah, deceit, betrayal, and "break your oaths if that gives a better result".

029 41/46f: "- - - nor is thy (people's*) Lord (Allah*) ever unjust (in the least) to His servants". This is wrong to a high power. f.x. the law that a raped woman shall be seriously punished for unlawful sex if she cannot bring forth 4 male witnesses to the very act, is most likely the most unjust and immoral law which has ever existed in a presumably civilized country. And the fact that a man correctly accusing a woman for unlawful sex, is guilty unto Allah of lying, if he cannot produce 4 witnesses, even though an omniscient god should know that he speaks the truth, is nearly as bad.

030 43/76a: "Nowise shall We (Allah*) be unjust to them (sinners) - - -". Sending persons to Hell itself is unjust in most cases - very few have made so big sins that they deserve such an inhuman and sadistic and everlasting punishment.

####031 74/11c: (YA5784): "The question of Justice and Punishment to men is for Allah alone. For man at his best (also Muslims*) can see only one side of the truth, and only Allah is All-Knowing". Muslims - f.x. Muhammad and judges or terrorists - should remember this. They also should remember that this is even more true if the claimed Truth in the Quran is not true or if Allah is a made up god, not to mention if he is something real, but one from the dark forces dressed up like a god, like parts of the Quran and parts of its moral code may indicate.

032 78/38e: "- - - he (Allah*) will say what is right". If he exists and is a major god, this may be correct. If he does not exist, and not to mention if he exists, but is from the dark forces like parts of the Quran and parts of its moral code may indicate, it is wrong.

##033 95/8b: "Is not Allah the Wisest of Judges?" Judging from the immoral parts of his(?) moral code and from the unjust and/or immoral parts of sharia he is a horrible judge. Adding al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), deceit, and "break even your oaths if that gives a better result", he in addition is an unreliable judge.

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It also is pretty thought provoking that f.x. all the errors, contradictions, wrong facts, etc., only and alone, in the Quran, prove 100% that there is no god behind that book. And that f.x. the fact that Jesus accepted OT as correct, proves to both Christians and Muslims, and to most Jews and historians, that the OT was not falsified at that time - and that the Qumran scrolls prove that even OT was not falsified any time later, too.

It further is an insult to that possible god to "explain" that his texts means something different from what they really says = you are more clever than him at explaining what the god "really" meant, than the god is himself, even when he tries to explain things "clearly and easy to understand", and says his words are to be understood literally and without hidden meanings. Also only "the sick of heart" look for hidden meanings behind his words, according to the Quran - the very claimed hidden meanings the wise Muslims claim are what Allah really meant, but was unable to express clearly himself, so that they have to help the bumbling god and tell what he "really" tried to say. This in spite of that the Quran clearly states that meanings hidden behind Allah's clear and easy to understand words, only are possible for Allah to understand, and like said above are "only for the sick of heart" to look for.

May be as bad: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts clearly say, is to falsify the quranic texts.

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