Allah in the Quran, Chapter 33

 

Chapter 33

"LIE AGAINST ALLAH"

 

001 In the Quran this normally is meant to mean any teaching or information not in correspondence with Muhammad's teaching, claimed "facts", etc., etc.

But when claimed facts in the Quran probably are wrong, are then the correct facts - f.x. that the stars are not fastened to the lowermost heaven under the moon - lies against Allah?

002 The Quran and all its errors (see "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran"), etc. are not from any god - no god delivers a book of that quality. To blame the Quran on Allah, is that then a lie against Allah?

003 If Allah do not exist, but just is a dressed up pagan old Arab made up god - is it then a lie against Allah to blame the Quran and all its mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, etc. on him?

######## Another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt it.

Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. #### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 known versions accepted by Islam of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions through the times) - is in case the correct one?

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable are that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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###004 3/75g: “But they (Jews and Christians*) tell a lie against Allah (= they have falsified the Bible*), and well they know it.” Wrong. It is a psychological impossibility to believe in a god or a "holy" book if you know it is a falsification. But the claim is good propaganda for leaders of people unable or unwilling to think things, words, and slogans over.

005 3/78d: "- - - it is they (Jews and Christians*) who tell a lie against Allah - - -". = They tell something different from what Muhammad tells, and Muhammad's claim and "explanation" - as normal no proofs - is that the Bible is falsified (proved wrong by both science and by Islam) by them ("who tell a lie against Allah"). See 2/75a+b+c, 2/130a, and 3/78a above.

006 4/50a: "How they (Jews and Christians*) invent a lie against Allah". = How they have falsified the Bible! = the only defense Muhammad had against the fact that there were large differences between what he told about the Bible and what really was in the Bible. See 2/75b, 2/89ab, 2/130 and 4/47d above and "Falsifications in the Bible?" in https://www.1000mistakes.com .

###007 4/50b: "But that (to lie about Allah*) by itself is a manifest sin!" Is that also the case for the makers of the Quran? With that many errors, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc. it is not from a god, but invented by someone or something and just pretended to be from a god - no god makes a book of a quality like the Quran. ###A Quran made up by humans obviously is sin if there somewhere is a true religion to sin against (f.x. Yahweh's if he exists) - this included if Muhammad was the maker. ###But was it really a sin if the maker of the Quran was Iblis/the evil? - after all it is his job to do things like that to lead people away from a possible good eternity.

008 6/21a: “Who doth more wrong than he (non-Muslim*) who invented a lie (said something else than Muhammad*) against Allah and His Signs (none of whom is logically valid proofs*)?” No, it is not possible to be more wrong than the non-Muslims. “We” (the Muslims) are morally and in other ways far superior. But: Do Islam really have a moral or ethical philosophy? - in any case we have never met it. They have some commandments and a code from Muhammad - and some of them are horrible - and that is all we have found. Islam f.x. is the only one of the big religions which accepts the use of dishonesty and lies, etc. as a working tool.

009 6/21b: "Who doth more wrong than he who invented a lie (said something else than Muhammad*) against Allah - - -". But is the Quran a lie against Allah if Allah is not a god and the Quran not from a god (but f.x. is from the dark forces, like many points in the Quran may indicate, as they fit the dark forces better than they fit a good and benevolent and omniscient god? Allah has not one single time proved himself, and the Quran also is full of mistakes and worse). Well, at least it is not a lie against Allah if Allah does not exist.

010 6/93a: "Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against Allah, or saith, 'I have received inspiration', when he hath received none - - -." A very ironic verse if the Quran is made up - and it is from no god with all those mistakes, etc. But if Muhammad made it up, he had one big truth to rely on: He could lie and he could make up anything he wanted; there was no Allah to punish him.

011 6/93b: "Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against Allah, or saith, 'I have received inspiration', when he hath received none - - -." Something to think about for Muslims if Muhammad or someone made up the Quran?

012 6/140b: "- - - inventing (lies) against Allah". Religious rules (in other religions) not in accordance with Muhammad's teachings, are "lies invented against Allah". It here is somewhat ironic that many customs and rules in Islam simply were taken over by Muhammad from the earlier Pagan Arab religion.

013 6/144a: "But who doth more wrong than one who invents a lie against Allah, to lead astray men without knowledge?" A most ironic sentence if the Quran is a made up book (and at least it is from no god - no god makes that many mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc.). But if Muhammad himself made up the religion, at least he knew he was safe - he in case knew there was no Allah to punish him.

014 7/37a: "Who is more unjust than one who invents lies against Allah or rejects His Signs?" A pretty ironic sentence if the Quran is a made up book, not to mention if it is from the dark forces - and with all those mistakes, contradictions, etc, it at least is not from a god - no god makes such and so many mistakes. But nice for Muhammad if it was he who made it up - he then knew that no matter what he said or did there was no Allah to punish him if the religion was fiction,

#015 10/17a: "Who doth more wrong than such as forge a lie against Allah - - -". Well, for Muhammad's sake we can hope he did not make lies (which he did) in the Quran - that it f.x. was all TLE (the illness Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) or something dressed up as Gabriel who cheated him. On the other hand if Allah did/does not exist, Muhammad's lies were without consequence - - - if there did/does not exist some other god who disliked/s lies.

016 14/28b: "- - - blasphemy - - -". Nothing here is blasphemy unless Allah really exists and is a god. (How do you f.x. blaspheme him if he belongs to the dark forces?)

017 29/68a: "And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against Allah?" If Muhammad or someone has made up the Quran, that means they have invented Allah as a single god of the world. But has/have he/they in case sinned against Allah if he does not exist? Advanced philosophy?

018 34/8b: "Has he (Muhammad*) invented falsehood against Allah - - ?" This was in case not what they said - the pagan Arabs would say "against al-Lah". (Al-Lah/Allah was the pagan Arabs' main god, and that god Muhammad dressed up and named only Allah - just a small twist on the pronunciation. Because of that he could claim they said Allah when they in reality meant the pagan god al-Lah (also sometimes named Allah). Muslims today use a similar trick when they use the name God for Allah in the west, where the name God normally is used for Yahweh. Al-Lah/Allah really means "the god" (a title) not "God" (a name), but by using this twist they camouflage many of the differences between Yahweh and Allah - in addition to their wrong claim that Yahweh and Allah really is the same god (the differences are too many and too fundamental for that to be true)).

019 39/32a: "Who, then, doth more wrong than one who utters a lie concerning Allah - - -". A question of great philosophical interest if the Quran is not from a god - and no god makes that many mistakes, etc. like you find in the Quran

#########020 39/32c: "- - - utters a lie concerning Allah - - -". There is no bigger lie against Allah than the Quran, this whether he exists or not. Why we can say this so 100% sure and definitely, is that the book is so full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. that no god has been involved in it, not to mention a claimed omniscient god. It is not possible to say who made it, though there are good reasons for to suspect Muhammad, partly because one recognize the methods used by false prophets, partly because many of the mistakes are things one believed was correct science at his time in that area, partly because it is clear from f.x. Arabisms that it was made in or near Arabia, partly because of all the times Allah helped him with family and other personal problems, partly because he was the main benefactor, partly because it was his platform of power, and not least because the religion changed when Muhammad needed or wanted changes.

If he was mentally ill like modern medical science suspects (TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy), he may however partly have believed in his tales and preaching himself. But he was too intelligent and knew too much about people not to know that he was lying some times, even in surahs and verses in the Quran. Some things there is not possible for an intelligent person knowing people to believe.

But if one believes in supernatural beings, there also is the possibility that the Quran is from the dark forces. If f.x. the Devil dressed up like the angel Gabriel, no human - included Muhammad - would have a chance to know the difference. The partly immoral moral code, the partly unethical ethical code, the partly unjust judicial code, the permission of stealing/robbing, raping, suppressing, enslaving, murdering, etc., etc., may point in this direction.

What does these facts mean for the religion?

Also see 34/8b above.

021 61/7a: "Who doth greater wrong than one who invents falsehood against Allah?" What about someone who invents a book and claims it is from Allah? - is it bad also if Allah does not exist? - what if the invented book in case denies people access to a real god (if such one exists) - is that as bad or worse?

022 72/4b: "- - - extravagant lies against Allah". But if the skeptics are right on one or more or many points, that means the claimed "extravagant lies" are extravagant truths. And as so much is wrong in the Quran, this seems to be the reality.

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It also is pretty thought provoking that f.x. all the errors, contradictions, wrong facts, etc., only and alone, in the Quran, prove 100% that there is no god behind that book. And that f.x. the fact that Jesus accepted OT as correct, proves to both Christians and Muslims, and to most Jews and historians, that the OT was not falsified at that time - and that the Qumran scrolls prove that even OT was not falsified any time later, too.

It further is an insult to that possible god to "explain" that his texts means something different from what they really says = you are more clever than him at explaining what the god "really" meant, than the god is himself, even when he tries to explain things "clearly and easy to understand", and says his words are to be understood literally and without hidden meanings. Also only "the sick of heart" look for hidden meanings behind his words, according to the Quran - the very claimed hidden meanings the wice Muslims claim are what Allah really meant, but was unable to express clearly himself, so that they have to help the bumbling god and tell what he "really" tried to say. This in spite of that the Quran clearly states that meanings hidden behind Allah's clear and easy to understand words, only are possible for Allah to understand, and like said above are "only for the sick of heart" to look for.

May be as bad: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts clearly say, is to falsify and/or corrupt the quranic texts.

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