Allah in the Quran, Chapter 26

 

Allah the real ruler of Hell?

 

001 Allah is the absolute ruler according to the Quran. Thus he also must be the top ruler of Hell, as Iblis/the Devil could not run a Hell without permission from Allah, according to Muslim scholars.

Both this "fact" and some of Allah's rules concerning Hell and who are sent there, tell something about Allah and about his(?) religion.

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable is that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

######## Another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt and/or falsify it.

Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. ##### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 known versions accepted by Islam of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions through the times) - is in case the correct one?

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002 2/4a: "- - - the Revelation - - -". Was it really revelation? - there never was a proof, only claims. And if it was, then from whom? No god - too much is wrong in the book. Hardly even a devil - for the same reason - - - unless the god gave him permission to lure more people to hell, on the condition that his trap should be easy to discover. An illness? - modern science suspects TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) which can give just such religious experiences and illusions. Remaining possibility: Cold human planning.

##003 2/10c: "- - - Allah has increased their disease (see 2/10a) - - -". It is Allah who decides if you are going to Hell or not. This decision is made already 5 months before you are born according to Hadiths, and is impossible to change - and Islam is unable to explain how their claimed free will then can work so as to transfer the blame for that a person ends in Hell, from Allah to the deeds of that person with the claim that he is diseased. Without such an explanation Allah is a horrible and unjust god, but Islam only have the lame and as normal not proved claim: "It has to be true, as Allah says so in the Quran"(!!!*) (Asad: "The Message of the Quran", comment 6/141 - in the English 2008 edition 6/143).

###004 2/34e: (A2/26) “- - - they (the angels*) all prostrated themselves, save Iblis (the then future Devil*) - - - and thus he became one of those who deny the truth”. There is an added mystery here: It is indicated here that Iblis was an angel, but angles were created from light, whereas it several places in the Quran is said that Iblis was created from fire = Iblis was a Jinn. Also the fact that he was able to refuse Allah’s order makes Islamic scholars question his being an angel, because angels are totally obedient. That aside:

#####(It is) “absolutely clear that at the time of that command he (Iblis*) was indeed one of the heavenly host. Hence we must assume that his “rebellion” has a purely symbolic significance and is, in reality, the outcome of a specific function assigned to him by Allah. (This is what many Muslim scholars believe, as Allah has absolute power, and nothing happens unless according to his plan.) If this is true, and Allah is behind also the Devil and Hell - where then is the good and benevolent god?”

This is a touchy point for some Muslims: If Iblis was able to refuse to obey, Allah is not omnipotent. If on the other hand Hell is part of Allah’s design, Allah far from is a pure and benevolent god. Muhammad Asad: "The Message of the Quran", tends to believe it is part of Allah’s design – the omnipotence is more essential than benevolence – but we have never seen a clear answer to the enigma. The real significance of this scene thus is unclear.

Also very different from the Bible.

005 2/95b: "- - - the (sins) which their (people's*) hands have sent before them". Sins one has done in this life, which at the Day of Doom will be taken into account when the decision is made whether to send you to Hell or to Paradise. Well, at least this is what Muslims claim - forgetting (?) that according to Hadiths Allah decides whether you are to end in Hell or Paradise already 5 months before you even are born.

006 2/97e: "- - - (revelation) - - -". But was it really revelations? - and in case from whom? As no god ever was involved in, not to mention revered in his own "home", a book of a quality like the Quran that leaves 3 possibilities: A dark force or an illness - f.x. TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) like modern medical science suspects - or a cold human brain. As for dark forces, we personally are skeptic to this claim, even though the partly immoral moral code and some other aspects of the religion might indicate so - not even a devil would build his religion on a book as full of errors as the Quran, as he had to know he would be found out sooner or later. There is one possibility, though: The almighty and omnipotent god may have permitted the devil to lure more people into Hell, but on the condition that so much should be wrong, that any intelligent person could see the trap if he/she engaged "the small grey ones".

And of course there is the alternative that the book is completely man-made. The fact that so many of the mistakes are in accordance with what one believed to know in and around Arabia at that time, the fact that there is nothing from outside what we now call the Middle East in a religion claiming to be for all the world, the fact that when problems happened, the claimed god's claimed comments and solutions came afterwards instead of before so as to avert the problems, and f.x. the fact that the god several times "helped" Muhammad - also Muhammad personally - (something which happens a little too often for self proclaimed "prophets"), indicate a man-made Quran.

007 2/136a: “- - - the revelations (the Quran*) - - -". Was it really a revelation? - and in case from whom? A book of a quality like the Quran is not from any god - too much is wrong. Then remain dark forces or an illness or a cold human brain.

As for dark forces Muhammad would not have one chance to see the difference between the angel Gabriel and the Devil dressed up like Gabriel. Also the partly immoral moral code, the war religion, etc. might indicate an explanation like this. But we personally are reluctant to believe this, because not even a devil would use a book with so many errors as his "holy" book - he had to know he would be found out sooner or later and loose credence. There is one possibility, though: If the god permitted him to try to lure or cheat more humans to Hell - say the god f.x. wanted fewer of the stupid ones in his Paradise - but on the condition that so much should be wrong, that any intelligent person should be able to see the trap and evade it. Well, it is a possibility.

When it comes to illness, the one modern medical science suspects, is TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. (See f.x. BBC, Thursday, 20 March 2003 - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2865009.stm - 17 April 2003, BBC 2). This illness can give just the kind of "religious experiences", "religious visions" - or hallucinations - etc. and the physical fits and seizures it is claimed Muhammad had.

And of course it is possible it all came just from a cold brain wanting power, riches for bribes, and women - but then it was no revelation. This has been the case for many a self proclaimed "prophet" - there have been many of them through the times. Actually this is the most likely explanation in the case Muhammad, because so many of the mistakes were what one believed in Arabia at the time of Muhammad, because even though the Quran claims Allah is a universal god, everything was about Arabia and neighboring areas, because when there were problems or something, the comments came afterward - a god could have commented on it before to tell them the right thing to do or to avoid the problems, because Allah so often helped Muhammad also in family trouble and other private problems - typical for many false "prophets", and not to forget because of all the mistakes which were in accordance with (wrong) science in that area at the time of Muhammad, like said just above. If this was combined with TLE, Muhammad might at least partly believe in his religion himself.

008 2/167a: "Nor will there be a way for them (sinners, non-Muslims*) out of the Fire." Well, there is a possibility in the beginning, as may be some of the not too bad ones may be called out from the flames. Also in the Quran there are indications for that may be Hell is not quite forever (6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74b-c, 78/23, plus some Hadiths). Two unclear points.

009 3/77b: "- - - they (disbelievers in Allah*) shall have no portion in the Hereafter (Paradise*): nor will Allah (deign to) speak to them or look at them on the Day of Judgment, nor will He cleanse them (of sin). They shall have a grievous penalty." Also this (see 3/77a just above) is a claim you find many places in the Quran - believe in Muhammad or you will end in Hell and be subject to the most sadistic and infernal torture thinkable (few things are as physically painful as burns - and the Quran's Hell mainly is a physical hell). Partly it is a warning - Muhammad's claim about how the ones who did not believe in and obey him, would fare in the claimed next life. But as essential for him - and for Islam - is the "Schadenfreude", the inner, base enjoyment over other peoples' bad luck or bad fate which is part of the nature of a large portion of humanity - especially if the unlucky ones are people "we" do not like or are inferior to "us" because of their behavior or something. By playing on this part of human nature, one creates distance between ones followers and "the others", and one creates a feeling among "us" that we are "better" and "morally superior" to "the others".

Muhammad knew about human nature and about how to manipulate humans - parts of what we today call psychology. And this distance between the groups "us" and "them", and the impression and feeling that "they" were inferior sub humans and bad people, he later could use to expel, rob, enslave and mass murder "them" in the surroundings - a task made easier by the fact that the horrors made "us" rich.

Many a dictator and many a man hungry for power have played on such strings. Many also have used religion as their platform of power. And some have done both - like Muhammad.

Another and dark point: IF IT IS TRUE LIKE THE QURAN SAYS SEVERAL PLACES THAT HE PREDESTINES EVERYTHING, AND IF IT IS TRUE WHAT THE QURSN SAYS SEVERAL PLACES THAT IT IS PREDESTINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALLAH'S P L A N WHICH NOBODY AND NOTHING CAN CHANGE, AND FINALLY IF IT IS TRUE WHAT THE HADITHS SAY; THAT HE DESIDES WHETHER YOU ARE TO END IN HEAVEN OR HELL WHEN YOU ARE A 4 MONTHS OLD FETUS, WHATEVER YOU DO HAS NO INFLUENCE ON WHERE YOU WILL END IN THE PERHAPS NEXT LIFE.

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###011 4/78a: “Wherever you are, death will find you, even if ye are in towers built strong and high!” The predestination once more - Allah has decided when you are to die (Hadiths tell he decides on this - and on whether you are to end in Hell or Paradise - 5 months before you are born). You can as well go to war and do "good" things for Allah – and get rewards and spoils of war from him – because you will die no sooner and no later all the same. No comments should be necessary. Beware that this is the belief also today, even though it is ever so easy to prove by statistics - and also by simply using your brain - that this is wrong. If this verse is true, free will for man can walk away whistling a tune.

012 4/117b: "- - - they (the Pagans*) call but upon Satan the persistent rebel". But if it is true that Satan/Iblis really is a servant or partner to Allah - Iblis running Allah's Hell or a Hell which is part of Allah's Plan (like many Muslim scholars believe, as Iblis could not have his Hell without ok from Allah if Allah is omnipotent) - is Iblis/Satan then a rebel? Not to mention if Allah just is a dressed up Satan?

013 6/112d: "If thy (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) had so planned, they (non-Muslims*) would not have done it (believed in other gods*) - - -". What kind of god is planning so as to send millions and even billions of humans - and jinns - to Hell?!!

014 7/13-16b: This was the reason for Hell - though many Muslim scholars believe that also Hell is part of Allah's plan, as Allah is too strong to permit Hell if he did not want it, and if it was not part of his plan. But what kind of a sadistic god is then Allah? - because Hell as described in the Quran is pure and - well, devilish - sadism.

**015 13/1f: “- - - the Book: that which hath been revealed unto thee (Muhammad*) from thy Lord (Allah*) - - - “. That is the question, to quote Hamlet: Did a god really produce and reveal a book with that many mistakes, contradictions, and invalid “proofs“? No. And when no god revealed it, he also did not reveal it to Muhammad.

An alternative is that the Devil impersonated Gabriel and in other cases told Muhammad things “by inspiration”, and that it thus was revealed to him, but from dark forces. Another alternative is that it all stems from a sick brain – TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) + lust for power may easily explain everything. Yet another alternative is that it was not revealed, but made up – the fact that many of the mistakes which are in accordance with the wrong science of the time and area of Muhammad, and also the fact that Muhammad was not stupid enough to believe everything that is said in the Quran, may indicate that it is made up. (As for the last argument: F.x. the claim that miracles would not make some people believe, Muhammad was too intelligent and knew too much about people to believe himself – and f.x. Jesus was a good proof of the opposite: A lot did not believe in spite of everything, but quite a number came to believe because of what they saw and heard and witnessed from Jesus. The same was the conclusion of the story that Muhammad himself told about the magicians of Pharaoh Ramses II and Moses: They came (according to Muhammad’s own words) to believe after a small miracle.) For similar also see 2/231 – 3/3 – 4/136 – 5/48 – 5/59 - 5/64 – 5/67 – 6/7 – 7/2 – 7/3 – 10/2 – 13/19 – 16/89 – 18/1 - 16/102 – 25/33 – 27/6 – 33/2 – 34/6 – 35/24 – 35/31 – 39/2 - 47/2.

Thus to repeat:

An alternative is that the f.x. the Devil impersonated Gabriel and in other cases told Muhammad “by inspiration” what thus was "revealed" to him. The inhumanity of the religion would then be explained. Personally we doubt this explanation, if for no other reason, then because even a devil would not make so many mistakes, contradictions, etc. in the Quran - he simply would not want to be found out by his victims sooner or later. There is one possibility, though: If Iblis - the Islamic Devil - got permission from Allah for trying to lure more humans to Hell only on the condition that the trap should be one which was easy for thinking persons to see, then all the mistakes may be explained. To be flippant: May be the god did not want too many too stupid humans into his Paradise?

Another alternative is that it all stems from a sick brain – TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) + lust for power may easily explain everything. In this case Muhammad may have believed at least partly in his own tales and religion.

Yet another alternative is that it was not revealed, but made up in cold blood. The fact that many of the mistakes are in accordance with the wrong science of the time and area of Muhammad, and also the fact that Muhammad was not stupid enough to believe everything that is said in the Quran, may indicate that it is made up. In this case it may have been made up of one (or more) helper like many of his contemporaries suspected, or by himself - the last is most likely, at least for parts of it.

016 15/30-31: "So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together: Not so Iblis - - -". This verse makes trouble for Islam as it mentions Iblis among the angels. It is nowhere directly said what kind of being Iblis - the Devil - was/is. Here it is indicated that he was one of the angels. But Allah created the angels from light, whereas it is clearly stated a couple of places in the Quran that Iblis was created from fire, and in that case he should be a jinn. It may also be added that many Muslims mean that all this was theater arranged by Allah to fulfill his great Plan - Iblis could not make a Hell against Allah's will, as Allah is omnipotent. Hell thus must be a part of Allah's Plan, and Iblis' disobedience part of Allah's total predestination. But what does that in case tell about the merciful and benevolent god Allah

017 15/31: "Not so Iblis - - -". Iblis refused to accept that man was superior to himself. May be to the anger of Allah - but maybe not. As Allah is omnipotent, nothing can happen without his permission. Therefore Iblis could not do this without Allah's permission, Muslim scholars say - and they continue that this must be the result of a decision made by Allah, because he wanted a Hell, and that this scene was something predetermined - an agreement between Allah and Iblis. In short: Allah wanted or needed a Hell - perhaps for punishing not obedient men and jinns and perhaps others - and set up this scene together with his servant Iblis.

But if Allah set up such a sadistic and horrible Hell, it tells something about him.

And why did he need the theatre - the farce - this scene in case is?

018 15/33-39: “(Iblis (the future Devil*) said): ‘I am not one to prostrate myself to man, whom Thou didst create from sounding clay, from mud molded into shape’. (Allah) said: ‘Then get thee out from here, for thou art rejected, accursed. And the Curse shall be on thee till the Day of Judgment.’ (Iblis) said: ‘O my Lord! Give me respite till the Day the (dead) are raised.’ (Allah) said: ‘Respite is granted thee – till the Day of Time Appointed.’ (Iblis) said: ‘O my Lord! Because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on earth, and I will put them all in the wrong - - -.” This is the essence of how Hell came to. The story is not very logical, and as mentioned many Muslim scholars speculate about if Iblis in reality is working for Allah in accordance with Allah’s secret Plan. Nobody on Earth will ever know. But what kind of god is Allah in this case?

Nothing of this is from the Bible.

019 15/35a: "And the Curse shall be on thee (Iblis - the Devil*) - - -". How seriously can this have been meant if this scene was prearranged between Allah and Iblis (a necessity if those Muslims are right who means that Hell is a part of Allah's power and Plan)?

020 15/39a: "Because Thou (Allah*) hast put me in the wrong - - -". This only is correct (as seen by Iblis) if Iblis really was thrown out from Heaven. If this scene only was a prearrangement between Allah and Iblis (for the benefit of whom?), also this is part of the theatre. (Some Muslims believe that Hell is run with the permission or perhaps as a part of Allah's Plan - if not it is not possible to understand how Hell could exist - - - against the will and wish of an omnipotent god.)

Nothing of this is from the Bible.

021 15/39b: "Because Thou (Allah*) hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on earth, and I will put them all in wrong - - -". This is the claimed rationale and reason behind Hell in the Quran - it is Iblis' revenge for being thrown out from Heaven. But as Allah predestines everything, is it he who has predestined this, too?

If the Quran in reality is made by dark forces, this verse may well explain large parts of the book's moral code, and many Muslims' behavior.

022 15/39c: "Because Thou (Allah*) hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on earth, and I will put them all in wrong - - -". What kind of being did the claimed omniscient Allah create when he created Iblis, if this scene is real? - and what kind of sadist is Allah if it in reality is he who is behind the establishing of a Hell that horrible and that sadistic? - so out of all proportions inhuman compared to fair punishment for the after all medium sins of most sinners.

023 15/39ca: "Because Thou (Allah*) hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on earth, and I will put them all in wrong - - -". #####How could Iblis say this, if Allah predestines and decides everything?

024 16/98b: "- - - Satan the Rejected One". Quite an ironic end of the verse if there is anything in the theory that the real maker of the Quran was Satan, dressed up like Gabriel to cheat Muhammad.

The claim also is ironic if Islam's own theory is correct: Allah is all-powerful. This means that Iblis cannot run Hell except if permitted by Allah. Allah would not permit a Hell unless he had a good reason. This means that Hell is part of Allah's all-including Plan, and thus that Iblis is not an enemy or a rejected one, but a co-worker of Allah. As Allah is all-powerful and also predestines everything, this according to Muslim scholars is the only possible explanation.

025 17/8f: "- - - and We (Allah*) have made Hell a prison for those who reject (all Faith)". See 3/77b above.

##### NOTE THE WORDS HERE: ALLAH HAS MADE HELL OR AT LEAST ACTIVELY USES IT. SOME GOOD AND BENEVOLENT GOD. (Muslim scholars agree on that Hell could not exist unless Allah at least accepted it. The all-powerful Allah easily could have terminated Hell if he wished.)

026 17/8g: "- - - and We (Allah*) have made Hell a prison for those who reject (all Faith)". If Allah exists and is a major god, and if the Quran is not a made up book. Contradicted by the Bible when it comes to followers of Yahweh.

027 17/8h: "- - - and We (Allah*) have made Hell a prison for those who reject (all Faith)". Is this another indication for that in reality it is Allah who is behind Hell? What kind of "good and benevolent god" is he in case?.

028 17/62 - 65: This is how Hell was made - and the main question here is: Allah could easily have denied Iblis/the Devil this - then what kind of god is Allah permitting or may be even having decided the whole thing (as Allah decides everything), permitting such torture and sadism? - especially if he predestines who are going to Hell and who not, like the Quran some places states. Also see 17/65 below. NB: This story is not from the Bible.

##029 17/97l: "- - - We (Allah*) shall increase for them (non-Muslims*) the fierceness of the (Hell*) Fire". Is this another indication for that the real ruler of Hell is Allah? What kind of good and benevolent god is he in case?

##030 17/97m: "- - - We (Allah*) shall increase for them (non-Muslims*) the fierceness of the (Hell*) Fire". - or (see 17/97l just above) is it a slip of the tongue of Allah, proving he is from the dark forces who rule Hell? Perhaps a dressed up Iblis/Devil cheating Muhammad? (Muhammad would have no chance to see the difference.)

##031 18/51c: "- - - nor is it for Me (Allah*) to take as helpers such as lead (men) astray!" All the same many Muslim scholars think Iblis/the Devil is working for Allah, because Iblis could not - and cannot - run his Hell without the permission of Allah, and without being part of the omnipotent Allah's predestined Plan. This in case tells a lot about how good and benevolent Allah is.

032 18/52d; "- - - We (Allah*) shall make for them (non-Muslims*) a place for common perdition". Is Allah also the real boss in Hell? See 18/39b and 3/77b above.

033 18/102d: "Verily We (Allah*) have prepared Hell for the Unbelievers - - -". See 3/77b above. Is Allah the real "director" of Hell like it may seem here?

034 19/86a: "- - - And We (Allah*) shall drive the sinners to Hell - - -". Is Allah also the real master of Hell? - a good and benevolent god in case. See 3/77b above.

035 24/21b: "Follow not Satan's footsteps - - -". Just to mention it: As it is clear that no god was involved in the making the Quran, one of the theories is that Satan, dressed up like Gabriel, was the real creator of the Quran and thus of Islam. (But even though several aspects of the religion may strengthen this theory, we personally are skeptical; not even a devil would make so many mistakes, contradictions, etc. - he had to know he would be found out sooner or later. There is one possible explanation, though; that the god did not permit him to make a new religion to trap more humans for Hell, unless it was done in such a way that the victims had a good chance to understand that something was wrong).

#####036 25/11d: "We (Allah*) have prepared a Blazing Fire for such (non-Muslims*) - - -". Is this a slip of the tongue confirming that Allah also is the real master of Hell?

#037 32/13f: “If We (Allah*) so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, ‘I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together’”. One thought: May be it is true Allah has arranged also Hell like a number of Muslim scholars believe (their logic is that Hell could not exist without Allah's permission, if Allah is omnipotent). Another thought: No matter if he has or not – as long as he wants to fill Hell with living beings, he is no benevolent god. Yet another thought: Can the Quran be explained by that the god permitted f.x. a devil (Iblis?) to make a "holy" book to deceive more humans, on the condition that it contained so much wrong that intelligent persons had a fair chance to see the trap?

038 32/13k: “If We (Allah*) so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, ‘I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together’”. Many Muslim scholars believe Allah is the real ruler also of Hell, as Iblis could not run it against the wish and will of Allah, as Allah is omnipotent. This verse indicates that this may be correct. What does it in case tell about Allah?

##039 36/69d: “- - - this is no less than a Message and a Quran - - -.” But in case from whom? With all its mistaken facts and other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. it is from no god. It hardly can be even from a devil - no devil would use a book that helpless and full of errors, because he would know that sooner or later he would be looked through and lose credibility. (One possible explanation: May be the god demanded it done in this way to permit the Devil luring more people to Hell, so that it should be easy for persons using their brains - the second most valuable gift a human has after life itself - easily should see and evade the trap. This in case also may explain the Quran's demand for blindness - blind belief and blind obeying.)

The last alternative is that the Quran is man-made. Actually the helpless composition and style of the book (except a linguistically polished Arab language - linguistically polished through some 250 years up to around 900 AD by the best Muslim brains) and all the scientific mistakes which one believed were correct science at the time of Muhammad in the "Middle East", indicate this. Also the at least some clear lies in the Quran indicate human or dark force origin.

040 38/75-82: The same story as in 15/33-39 above (Muhammad had a strong tendency to repeat himself – not god for literature quality), but with the addition of why Iblis did not want to prostrate himself for Adam: “I am better than he: Thou createdst me from fire, and him Thou createdst from clay.” Iblis was haughty or - if he was in cohorts with Allah in a game for having a reason for creating Hell – he played haughty.

If Allah created Iblis/the Devil, is Allah then a good and benevolent god? - this especially if he had everything predestined and thus did decide what was going to happen? Remember here that Allah predestines everything, and that nobody and nothing can change what he has decided - his Plan - according to many verses in the Quran.

Nothing like this in the Bible.

041 38/76-85: This is how Hell came into existence according to the Quran - with the permission of Allah (or some Muslim scholars say on the initiative of Allah). Is Allah then a good god? (One may say that in GT also Yahweh was harsh sometimes - before the new covenant. But whether Yahweh is/was good and benevolent, is a question irrelevant to if Allah is good and benevolent - it only is a good means often used to waylay a debate, and only belongs in the debate: "Which one is the most good and benevolent of Allah or Yahweh")

042 38/85a: "- - - I (Allah*) will certainly fill Hell - - -". This tells something about Allah".

043 48/6g: "- - - He (Allah*) has - - - got Hell ready for them (non-Muslims*)". Is this another indication for that Allah is the real top boss for Hell, like many Muslim scholars believe? (The logic is that if Allah is omnipotent, Iblis/the Devil cannot run Hell without Allah's permission). Some good and benevolent god in case.

044 48/8a: “We (Allah*) have truly sent thee (Muhammad*) as a witness - - -”. Is this reliable? - in a book with this much mistakes, invalid statements, “signs” and “proofs”? There is only one possible answer to that: A “witness” bringing so much wrong information and wrong fact, is not sent from an omniscient god. And one may add: A “witness” bringing so much injustice, hate and misery to the world, is not sent by a good and benevolent god. If Muhammad at all was sent, on may speculate about by whom. Personally we hardly believe he was sent by even a devil, though parts of the religion as preached in the Quran fits any devil well. But not even a devil would make a "holy" book with so many mistakes and errors – he would be found out sooner or later.

***But may be a devil knew that mistakes do not matter very much – may be he knew that religiously blind persons are unable to see even the most obvious mistaken facts, because they do not want to see them? Or maybe that was the condition on which the god permitted the book - so that man should have a fair chance to see the trap and avoid Hell?

045 66/6e: "- - - the Commands they (angels*) receive from Allah - - -". This verse is about Hell. ####Is this a proof for a theory many Islamic scholars have - that Allah is the real ruler of Hell? (The theory says that as Allah is omnipotent, Iblis cannot run Hell without Allah's permission, and he also cannot run it unless it is part of Allah's Plan.)

In that case Allah is quite a "good and benevolent" god.

###046 73/12a: "With Us (Allah*) are - - - a Fire (to burn them (non-Muslims*)) - - -". Many Muslim scholars mean that Allah also is behind the existence of Hell - as Allah is omnipotent, the Devil/Iblis could not run a Hell without the permission of Allah. The words "With Us" may indicate that they are right. Allah in case really is a good and benevolent(?) god permitting and supervising Hell.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

047 74/31a: "And We (Allah*) has set none but angels as guardians of the Fire - - -". Many Muslim scholars believe Allah also runs Hell, as the Devil/Iblis could not run it without the permission of Allah, as Allah is claimed to be omnipotent. This - that Allah has the guardians of Hell - may be a slip of the tongue showing that thus is correct. But what does this in case tell about the claimed good and benevolent god Allah - if he exists?

048 81/25: "Nor is it (the Quran*) the word of an evil spirit accursed". This may be wrong, as it is one of the real possibilities for who made the Quran (it is one of the theories for who is the real maker of the book) - the partly immoral moral code of the Quran, the partly unjust and/or immoral sharia laws, and its rules for blood, murder and war, may indicate a devil or bad spirits as the real maker(s). But even a devil would hardly deliver a book with so many errors, etc. - he had to know he would be found out sooner or later and loose credence. Which leave human creators as the likely creators, as it was no god - not with all those mistakes, etc? Though it is possible it was made by dark forces, if all the mistakes, etc. were a condition for permission from a god to try to lure more to Hell - the mistakes, etc. in case had to be included so as to make it easy for people to see something was wrong and avoid the trap.)

049 104/6a: "(It is) the Fire of (the Wrath of) Allah kindled (to blaze) - - -". A number of Muslim scholars believe also Hell is part of Allah's work - Iblis/the Devil could not run Hell against the wish of an omnipotent god. This verse seems to confirm the idea.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

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