Allah in the Quran, Chapter 19

 

ALLAH SEES AND KNOWS EVERYTHING

(Why the test you? - it is meaningless.)

 

You will find that many of these points also are mentioned in other chapters, f.x. the chapter "Allah's claimed knowledge", as they are relevant in different connections. We have gathered them here mainly as a comment to the Quran's and Islam's claims that Allah often needs to test his followers (and others).

Combine this chapter with the chapter: "Allah's claimed total predestination".

001 On basis of these two chapters, how is it possible to believe that Allah needs to test anybody at all? If he already knows even your innermost secrets like the Quran claims again and again and again, there is not a comma he can learn from testing you. There exists no logic in the claims that Allah needs to test you to see what quality you are - he already knows it very well. This even more so as the chapter "Allah's claimed total predestination" proves that according to the Quran Allah predestines every detail of your life years in advance, and the chapter "Nobody and Nothing can change Allah's Plan" proves that according to the Quran, Allah forces you to do exactly like he has predestined - no detail can you change. The conclusion is unavoidable: Allah can learn nothing from testing anybody, and this "explanation" for why Allah(?) demands raids for robbery, wars, etc. is meaningless.

002 But there suddenly is meaning if it was Muhammad who needed an "explanation" for his raids and wars, if his followers was - and is - naive and uneducated enough, or wanting strongly enough to believe, so that they were able to believe against obvious and clear logic and against meaninglessness.

Please read this chapter and the two other mentioned ones, and see if you afterwards are able to believe that there existed any reason at all for that Allah needed to test anyone, or that he could learn anything from such tests.

If Allah could and can learn nothing from such "tests", what is then the real reason for them?

003 Another relevant point: How is it possible to claim that Allah has been unable to tell exactly what he means many places - f.x. that tests are not really tests, because of course Allah knew/knows everything already (without being able to explain what the claimed tests then really are) - and that, therefore, humans - who are more clever than Allah at really explaining things - have to help him and explain what he "really" means?

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It also is pretty thought provoking that f.x. all the errors, contradictions, wrong facts, etc., only and alone, in the Quran, prove 100% that there is no god behind that book. And that f.x. the fact that Jesus accepted OT as correct, proves to both Christians and Muslims that the OT was not falsified at that time - and that the Qumran scrolls prove that even OT was not falsified any time later, too.

It further is an insult to that possible god to "explain" that his texts means something different from what they really says = you are more clever than him at explaining what the god "really" meant, than the god is himself, even when he tries to explain things "clearly and easy to understand", and says his words are to be understood literally and without hidden meanings. Also only "the sick of heart" look for hidden meanings behind his words, according to the Quran - the very claimed hidden meanings the wise Muslims claim are what Allah really meant, but was unable to express clearly himself, so that they have to help the bumbling god and tell what he "really" tried to say. This in spite of that the Quran clearly states that meanings hidden behind Allah's clear and easy to understand words, only are possible for Allah to understand, and like said above are "only for the sick of heart" to look for.

May be as bad: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts clearly say, is to falsify or corrupt the quranic texts.

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable is that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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*004 2/29g: "He (Allah*) hath perfect knowledge". Not if the Quran is representative for his knowledge - too many mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc. not to say it the other way around: If Allah has perfect knowledge about all things, this proves that he did not make the Quran and all its errors.

005 2/32c: "- - - it is Thou (Allah*) who are perfect in knowledge and wisdom". In that case he is not the maker of or one who reveres the Quran and all its errors. etc.

If Allah is perfect in knowledge and wisdom, how can it then be necessary for humans to help him explain better hundreds and more of points in the Quran? - yes, how is it possible for humans to explain the Quran better than a god does? Remember here that the Quran many places states that the texts are plain and easy to understand.

006 2/33d: "- - - I (Allah*) know the secrets of heaven and earth - - -". Why then 2/233h and 35/38b below?

007 2/33e: "- - - I (Allah*) know what ye reveal and what ye conceal- - -". According to the Quran Allah knows absolutely everything. But why then 2/233h or 35/38b below?

008 2/77a: "Know they not that Allah knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal?". This is a rather obscure verse, but Muslims frequently claim it is about the old Islamic claim that Muhammad was mentioned in the Bible, but that the Jews and the Christians have falsified it or at other points refuse to see what they claim is the real, though obscure, meaning of some verses in the book. (But it may simply be a warning.) Unclear. Once more the old facts:

  1. Islam has not one single valid proof for Allah - it does not exist, even though uneducated or dishonest Muslims often try to claim the opposite. Serious Muslim scholars admit this, though they normally do not tell their congregations.
  2. Islam has not one single valid proof for Muhammad's connection to a god - which is the likely reason why they cling so strongly to the claimed "miracles" connected to Muhammad in the Hadiths, even though the Quran very clearly proves Muhammad was not connected to any miracle (then friends and foes did not have to ask for proofs, and he himself did not have to explain away his/Allah's lack of miracles - even the learned scholars of Islam admits that "the only miracle connected to Muhammad, is the Quran". The lack of proof for his connection to a god, also is a main reason why Muslims reacts so strongly to skepticism to Muhammad - he is the weak link in Islam, and if this link is broken, Islam is a false religion. They thus cannot afford the slightest doubts about Muhammad or his integrity. After all for Islam belief is more essential than to find out if the belief may be true.
  3. Muslims feel dire need to find proofs for both Allah and for Muhammad's connection to a god. No matter how strong the belief, it is not the same as a proof.
  4. In addition the Quran in clear words tells that Muhammad is foretold both in OT and NT, and then Muslims HAVE to find him no matter what or how - if not something is wrong with the Quran and hence with the religion.
  5. It is very clear that Muhammad is not openly mentioned anywhere in the Bible - not even Muslims claim that.
  6. Consequently they go searching for him hidden in the texts - and it is so urgent for them to find him, that wishful thinking is far more central than objectivity.

For more see the chapter "Muhammad in the Bible?" in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" - http://www.1000mistakes.com. Also see 2/76b above and 7/157e below..

###009 2/110c: “- - - Allah sees well all that ye do.” May be true. Or may be a smart trick by a cunning someone to keep you obeying at all times? It is not possible to know just on basis of a loose statement: To believe - yes. To believe strongly - yes. To know - no. One of the many never proved claims in the Quran. And a psychologically wise one if it was Muhammad's intention to keep his followers "good and obedient" at all times.

010 2/110d: “- - - Allah sees well what all that ye do.” See 2/233h and 35/38b below.

011 2/115c: “For Allah is All-Pervading, All-Knowing”. Looking at the miserable state the facts, "facts", the “signs”, and the "proofs" in the Quran are in, strong real proofs for this are urgently needed. Also see 2/233h and 35/38b below.

012 2/127e: "- - - Thou (Allah*) art the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing". So do not try to cheat - and also see 2/233h and 35/38b below.

013 2/158g: "- - - be sure that Allah is He Who recogniseth and knoweth." Another never proved claim - but a good whip for obedience for Muhammad.

014 2/181b: "For Allah hears and knows (all things). The final threat in many a religion; we cannot know what you do always. But just you wait till the god decides! It is frequently used in the Quran. Also see 2/233h and 35/38b below.

015 2/224g: "- - - Allah is one who heareth and knoweth all things". Here it seems to mean that Allah understands what you really meant when you swore an oath, and thus can forgive - against expiation - the not too strongly meant oaths (and even those if there is a reason for breaking them). But oaths also have another side: The humans. How can anyone know when a Muslim is telling the truth and when not, when not even an oath is very serious to break, if he thinks there is a reason for doing so? And how can a Muslim telling the plain truth strengthen his words in order to be believed, when the opposite part knows about al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), the advices about breaking even oaths if that gives a better result, Muhammad's practicing (and thus permitting all Muslims to do the same) of deceit, etc.?

There are clear samples for that Muhammad lied (f.x. promising the peace delegation from Khaybar safe return) or advised people to lie (f.x. to hit enemies or save one's money) + several samples in the Quran itself.

Just for the record: Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing) can be used at least in these cases (for broken oaths there are given no real limitations if the broken oath will give a better result. By implication this also goes for ordinary promises, as an oath is something stronger than a normal promise):

  1. To save your or others' health or life.
  2. To get out of a tight spot or a dangerous problem.
  3. To make peace in a family.
  4. When it will give a better result than honesty or honoring one’s oath.
  5. To cheat women (should be remembered by girls with Muslim boyfriends wanting sex - or wanting a marriage to get residence or work permit in a rich country (we have personally seen such cases).)
  6. To deceive opponents/enemies.
  7. To betray enemies.
  8. To secure one’s money (very clear from Hadiths).
  9. To defend Islam. (Advised used if necessary to succeed.)
  10. To promote Islam. (Advised used if necessary to succeed.)

But al-Taqiyya is a double-edged sword: In the short run you may cheat and deceive some ones – actually also in the long run if the opposite part does not know about this side of Muslims and of Islam, or if he/she is naïve. But in the long run: No-one can quite trust a Muslim/Muslims/Islam in serious questions.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

016 2/227b: "- - - Allah heareth and knoweth all things". According to the Quran Allah registered absolutely every detail which happened on Earth (and in Heaven) - a never proved claim which sometimes makes one wonder about this and that - f.x. demands which have no meaning if Allah knows the answer already, like f.x. testing of persons. Also see 2/233h and 35/38b below.

017 2/237d: "For Allah sees well what ye do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

The whip and the carrot in one sentence. The under lying claim is that Allah is behind the moral code etc, and you have to follow his rules. But no omniscient god is behind a book of a quality like the Quran, and no good and benevolent god is behind a moral code or laws like the dark parts of what you find in the Quran.

018 2/244f: "- - - Allah heareth and knoweth all things." One of the innumerable not documented claims you find in the Quran - but some of them (like this one) acted as good "whips" for obedience and discipline from their followers to leaders (included Muhammad). But also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

019 2/261d: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth all things." See 2/233h and 35/38b above.

020 2/283b: "And Allah knoweth all that ye do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

021 3/5b: "From Allah, verily nothing is hidden - - -". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

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####022 3/7e: “He (Allah*) Who has sent down to thee the Book (the Quran*): in it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning) (= to be read literally*); they (the verses to be read literally*) are the foundation of the Book (the Quran*): others are allegorical (there are a number of allegorical or similar verses in the Quran - they either are easy to see are allegorical, or the meaning is explained, or both*). But those in whose hearts is perversity (,*) follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking disorder, for its hidden meaning (= only bad persons seek the hidden meanings - also from the allegories*), but no one knows the hidden meanings except Allah (= the possibly hidden meanings are not for humans*)”.

In clear text: The Quran is to be read literary if nothing else is said or indicated - hidden meanings are for Allah, and trying to find hidden meanings are done by perverts. This is very essential for Muslims to remember when they are tempted to explain away mistakes and blunders as allegories with hidden meanings ever so often. There is no hidden meaning unless it is indicated this verse says, and only the bad humans looks for such hidden meanings.

The Quran and Islam for one thing claim that the clear and easy language is a proof for that the book is made by a god, and for another that the perfect language is a proof for the existence of Allah (no such proofs exist, so they try to find some). And not least that the book and its perfect language is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated - that the language is "clear and easy" and that only those "in whose hearts are perversity" go looking for hidden meanings - hidden meanings "it only is for Allah to understand".

On this background: What does the mistakes, etc. and the unclear language prove?

023 3/7f: "Those firmly grounded in knowledge - - -". See 26/83a below.

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024 3/63a: "- - - Allah hath full knowledge of those who do mischief". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

025 3/63b: "- - - Allah hath full knowledge of those who do mischief". Does this mean Muslims in reality? - there is no doubt that many members of the war religion Islam with its "peculiar" moral code according to all normal moral rules, do a lot of mischief. (Compare the Quran's moral code, war code, etc. to "Do against others like you want others do against you", and feel sick.)

026 3/73h: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

027 3/98e: "- - - Allah is Himself witness to all ye do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

028 3/167h: "But Allah hath full knowledge of all they (hypocrites*) conceal". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

029 3/180g: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with what ye do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

030 4/12c: "- - - Allah is All-knowing, All-wise". Not if he made the inheritance laws in sharia, and definitely not if he made the Quran.

031 4/26c: "Allah doth wish to make clear to you (by means of the Quran*) - - -". No book so full of mistakes and unclear points makes much clear to anybody.

BUT THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS JUST THIS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT THINGS ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

032 4/33d: "For truly Allah is witness to all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

033 4/58g: "For Allah is He Who heareth and seeth all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

034 4/111b: "- - - Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom". Not if the Quran is representative for it.

035 4/170l: "- - - Allah is All-knowing, All-wise". Not if he made the Quran - too much is wrong in that book.

036 4/176d: “And Allah hath the knowledge of all things”. Obviously not in this case, too. F.x.: Given the right combination of inheritors, their shares add up to 125% or even 150% of the inheritance (this has given lawyers and lawmakers much work – and at least the lawyers much money - through the times.)

037 5/76e: "- - - He (Allah*) is it that heareth and knoweth all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

038 5/89d: "Thus doth Allah make clear to you His Signs - - -". This has little meaning, as it does not show to anything making things/"signs" clear. Or maybe it is just what it does, as the word "thus" points to the sentences about permitted lies/broken oaths and to how to be forgiven for such? Deplorable literature.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

BUT THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS JUST THIS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT THINGS ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

A strong fact: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts say, is to corrupt the book and its texts.

039 5/97h: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with all things." This is another of Muhammad's mantras, and which served him well: Behave yourself - and obey Muhammad - or Allah sees you and will punish you. Ok if true. Good psychology from a leader liking power if the Quran is made up. Also see 3/77b above.

040 5/99d: "But Allah knoweth all that ye (humans*) reveal or ye conceal". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

041 6/3b: "He (Allah*) knoweth what ye hide, and what ye reveal - - -". The Quran makes it clear that Allah knows absolutely everything. But see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

042 6/3c: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth the (recompense) which ye (people*) earn (by your deeds)". Then why - WHY - does he need to test his followers and others to find out what he already knows??! This even more so as he decides and predestines everything this happens according to the Quran! There is no logic in this. Also see 2/233f above and 35/38b below.

043 6/3d: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth the (recompense) which ye (people*) earn (by your deeds)". Of course he knows if it is true like the Hadiths tell that Allah decides whether you are to end in Hell or Paradise 5 months before you are born, and that nothing you do can change this diction - then he of course know all the time where you will end.

#044 6/65b: "See how We (Allah*) explains the Signs - - -", This somewhat cryptic claim you find several places in the Quran - cryptic because the claimed "signs" never are explained. Not once is it really explained how come that this and this really is a sign for Allah, neither anything about the claimed "signs" have any deeper meaning. It only is claimed that this and this and this are "signs" - intended to mean proofs (the word "proof" is even used a few times) - for Allah, and that is all - - - and the claims all have that in common that they are logically invalid, mostly just because it is not proved that Allah really is behind it (there may be a few exceptions for things "borrowed" from the Bible, but they in case prove Yahweh, not Allah).

BUT THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS JUST THIS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT THINGS ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

045 6/73k: "He (Allah*) knoweth the Unseen as well as that which is open". = Allah knows everything. See 2/233h above.

046 6/73m: "- - - He (Allah*) is - - - well acquainted (with all things)". Stay in line and be good and obedient - Allah sees you. Among other things a small reminder.

047 6/83c: "- - - thy Lord (Allah*) is full of wisdom and knowledge". Not if he made the Quran.

048 6/101e: “- - - He (Allah*) hath full knowledge of all things.” Something is seriously wrong here: The Quran and all its mistakes prove that either Allah did not make the Quran, or he had far from knowledge of all things. Also see 2/233h above.

049 6/103b: "(Allah*) is acquainted with all things" - so watch your steps. Also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

050 6/105a: "Thus do We (Allah*) explain the (claimed*) Signs by various (symbols) - - -". You will find similar claims here and there in the Quran, but the Quran never explains anything about its claimed "signs" and "proofs", it only makes claims about them.

BUT THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS JUST THIS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT THINGS ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

051 6/105c: "- - - We (Allah*) may make the matter clear to those who know". Those who know are completely aware of that it is not possible to make things clear by means of a book full of mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, etc. And some of them are too intelligent to be moved by cheap flattery.

##########052 6/114ca: "- - - He (Allah*) it is Who hath sent unto you (Muslims*) the Book (the Quran*) explained in detail - - -". If Allah has explained everything in detail, who can then explain it better - or explain that the clumsy Allah meant something different from what he said? But that is one of Islam's and Muslims' standard "explanations" for "explaining" away errors and difficult points in the Quran: As what the text says is impossible, horrible, or something, Allah cannot have meant what he said, but must have told a parable, allegory, metaphor, or something, without indicating so, "but we intelligent humans can explain it better and tell you what Allah 'really' must have meant!!".

THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS JUST THIS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT THINGS ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

One more serious point: When Islam or Muslims claim that the texts in the Quran mean something different from what they really say, this means they are corrupting those texts.

##053 6/114d: "- - - the Book (the Quran*), explained in detail - - -". If it is explained in detail, then made up claims about other explanations or allegories to explain away mistakes, etc. clearly are wrong.

054 6/115g: "- - - He (Allah*) is the One Who heareth and knoweth all". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

*055 6/154c: “- - - is explaining all things in detail”. It is explaining far from all things, and definitely not in details - among other facts there are not enough laws to run a society. Laws and rules had to be added.

BUT THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT ALL THINGS ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

##056 7/7c: "- - - We (Allah*) were never absent (and saw everything*) - - -". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

057 7/32d: "Thus do We (Allah*) explain the Signs in detail - - -". But there is no explanation of Allah's claimed signs in this verse. A book so clear and easy that it only can be made by a god?

BUT THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT THE THINGS ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

058 7/174a: "Thus do We (Allah*) explain the Signs in detail - - -". There are no explanations, not to mention detailed explanations, of the claimed "signs" in the entire Quran - or anywhere else. There are claims, but no explanations - an especially not for the main point: Can they at all be called signs for Allah, and in case why? (As there nowhere is proved that Allah is behind the claimed "signs", they are logically totally invalid as signs or proofs for anything.

BUT THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT THE THINGS ACCORDING TO THE QURAN ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

059 7/200: "- - - He (Allah') heareth and knoweth (all things)". See 2/233h above.

060 8/17c: "- - - Allah is He Who heareth and knoweth (all things)." A proud, but never documented claim - but also a reminder you frequently meet in the Quran: Allah sees everything, so be good and be obedient to Allah's representative Muhammad (and his successors) - if not punishment will reach you in this or the next life. A good "fact"(?) at least for Muhammad - - - and it was Muhammad who told this to his followers. Also see 2/233h above.

061 8/71d: "And Allah is He Who hath (full) knowledge and wisdom". See 8/53c and 8/63a above.

062 9/11e: "- - - (thus) do We (Allah*) explain the Signs in detail - - -". Similar claims you will find here and there in the Quran, and what they have in common, is that not one of them explains the claimed "signs" - there are claims and talk, but never a logically explanation - which in reality does not mean very much, as there is not one single logically valid sign for Allah anywhere, included in the Quran. If it had existed, you bet Islam and Muslims had told you about it every second hour. Claims aplenty, documented and logically valid ones exactly none.

BUT WHAT IS CLEAR, IS THAT THIS IS YET ANOTHER POINT INDICATING THAT THE QURAN MEANS IT MAKES THINGS CLEAR - USES A CLEAR LANGUAGE. WHICH MEANS THAT ISLAM AND MUSLIMS ARE WRONG WHEN THEY CLAIM THAT ERRORS, ETC. IN THE QURAN ARE NOT ERRORS, BUT ALLEGORIES, ETC., WHICH THEY CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN THE QURAN - BUT WHO EXPLAINS BETTER AND MORE CORRECT THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

Plus a serious point: When Islam or Muslims claim quranic texts means something different from what they really say, they are corrupting the Quran and its texts.

063 9/15b: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise". Not if all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran represents his claimed wisdom.

Another fact: If Allah delivered the Quran and all its mistaken facts and other errors, all its internal and external contradictions, all its invalid logic, etc. there is a good reason to laugh - and laugh loudly - from claims like this.

064 9/28j: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing - - -". Just another example of never proved claims in the Quran - you will find more than we refer. Also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

Another fact: If Allah delivered the Quran and all its mistaken facts and other errors, all its internal and external contradictions, all its invalid logic, etc. there is a good reason to laugh - and laugh loudly - from claims like this.

065 9/64a: "- - - But verily (it definitely is no proved verity/truth*) Allah will bring to light all that ye (bad people*) fear (should be revealed)". For one thing we here are back to the old fact that this cannot happen unless Allah really exists. And for another: In the entire history we have read or heard about not one single proved case where Allah has done this.

066 9/78c: "- - - Allah doth know their secret (thoughts) and their secret counsels - - -". Not unless he exists and is something supernatural (not necessarily a god).

067 9/78d: "- - - Allah knoweth well all things unseen?" A warning - plus see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

068 9/94k: "- - - Him (Allah*) who knoweth what is hidden and what is open - - -". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

069 9/94m: "- - - then will He (Allah*) show you the truth of all that ye did". Do not cheat Muhammad! - Allah sees everything and will punish you. Also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

070 9/97h: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise". Two examples of the many never proved claims in the Quran. Read using your brain and your knowledge, not only your eyes, and you will find a lot of them. And actually: He is not if he made the Quran.

If Allah made the Quran and all its errors, etc., you may laugh heartily from claims like this.

071 9/98e: "- - - Allah is He that heareth and knoweth (all things)". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

072 9/103d: "- - - Allah is One Who heareth and knoweth (everything*)". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

073 9/105g: "- - - the Knower (Allah*) of what is hidden and what is open - - -". If he exists, and if he in addition is a god - or perhaps something from the dark forces, which also may have supernatural vision. Besides it in no case is true if he is behind the Quran and all its mistakes.

And: If he really knew anything, why then did he have to test even his followers? - he could learn nothing from it? (But if it was Muhammad who wanted warriors in 631 AD, thing are suddenly easier to understand.)

074 9/105h: "- - - the Knower (Allah*) of what is hidden and what is open - - -". See 3/233e above and 35/38b below.

075 9/106b: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing, Wise". Not if he made the Quran - too much is wrong. Also see 2/233h and 35/38b below.

Another fact: If Allah delivered the Quran and all its mistaken facts and other errors, all its internal and external contradictions, all its invalid logic, etc. there is a good reason to laugh - and laugh loudly - from claims like this.

076 9/115c: "- - - in order that He (Allah*) may make clear - - -". Allah is claimed to speak through the Quran - and a book with that many mistakes, contradictions, etc., makes very little clear.

BUT WHAT IS CLEAR, IS THAT THIS IS YET ANOTHER POINT INDICATING THAT THE QURAN MEANS IT MAKES THINGS CLEAR - USES A CLEAR LANGUAGE. WHICH MEANS THAT ISLAM AND MUSLIMS ARE WRONG WHEN THEY CLAIM THAT ERRORS, ETC. IN THE QURAN ARE NOT ERRORS, BUT ALLEGORIES, ETC., WHICH THEY CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN THE QURAN - BUT WHO EXPLAINS BETTER AND MORE CORRECT THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

077 9/115d: "- - - Allah hath knowledge of all things". See 2/233h above.

078 10/5d: “It is He (Allah*) who made - - - the moon to be a light (of beauty) - - - (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand”. In this case "those who understand" understand that it is the sun that makes the moon shine (beautifully or not), as the moon is no light (it only reflects sunlight). If Allah - or any god - is involved, it has never been proved. But it is a nice thing for any priest of any religion to claim responsibility for on behalf of his religion, of course. That is to say: As long as you do not have to prove it. Muhammad also knew the value of flattery. Also beware of another thing here: You will meet the claim that the Quran one or two places tell the moon shine with reflected light. But not one single place in the whole Quran will you find an Arab word that means "reflected" or something similar. The claim simply is an "al-Taqiyya"- a lawful lie - to defend the religion and claim that it knew that moonlight was reflected sunshine. An easy bluff as most people does not know enough Arab to see that it is a bluff.

BUT THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT THE THINGS ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

079 10/24d: "Thus do We (Allah*) explain the Signs in detail - - -". If Allah explains in detail, how then can humans/Muslims explain things better or "explain what Allah really means" f.x. when facts or logic or something is wrong in the Quran?

THE MOST CENTRAL POINT HERE IS THAT THE QURAN CONFIRMS THAT THE THINGS ARE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL = TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THIS DOCUMENTS THAT WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS CLAIM THAT ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. AND OTHER BAD POINTS DO NOT MEAN WHAT THE TEXTS SAY, BUT ARE ALLEGORIES OR SOMETHING, SUCH CLAIMS AND EXPLAINING AWAY ARE WRONG. BESIDES: WHO CAN EXPLAIN BETTER THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

And a serious fact once more: When Islam or Muslims in order to explain away errors, etc. in the Quran, claim that the book means something different from what it says, they are corrupting those texts and the Quran.

080 10/65c: "- - - it is He (Allah*) Who heareth and knoweth (all things)". In this case: Remain calm - he will punish them. But also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below. And if he has delivered the Quran, the claim is wrong: There are lots of facts, etc. he does not know - they are wrong in the Quran.

####081 11/1b: “(This (the Quran*) is a Book, with verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning) - - -.” In plain words: The verses are in plain language and are to be understood literally where otherwise is not clearly said – in “basic and fundamental” words. But all the same Muslims try explaining away anything which is wrong in the Quran and which they do not find “explanations” for, with that it "this is not to be understood literally – it must be allegories", etc. It is one of their three "last" – and often used - lines of defense” when errors in the Quran cannot be explained or explained away. (The other two are: “You cannot deduce anything from one or a few verses which looks wrong – the Quran (or the surah) must be understood as a whole”. And the really “low prose” one: “You are lying or making up things because you are an Islam-hater or are listening to Islam-haters” – this no matter how correctly you are quoting the Quran or the Hadiths or whatever.) Well, there is one more: "You have to read the Quran in Arabic to understand it". A nonsense claim - Arab is just a medium difficult language to translate, according to linguists. Also see 3/7b+c above and 19/97, 26/2, 27/1, 28/2, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/17, 54/32 .

A very essential point to remember when Muslims try to claim clear mistakes are allegories or similar. They often do. And Muslims trying to flee from indications or proofs in the Quran for that things are seriously wrong in the religion of Muhammad, might remember that the only main person they in case cheat, is oneself.

###### More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what are parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran is clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, ##6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1d, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19. Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

#The listed points are all collected under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

082 11/1c: "- - - (verses*) - - - further explained in detail - - -". The problem only is that too many of the "explanations" are wrong or logically invalid. A 100% proof for that no god is behind those "explanations" and thus the book.

But who can explain better than a god? What then does it prove when Muslims very often have to "explain" what the claimed god "really means"? WHAT PERHAPS IS THE MOST ESSENTIAL POINT HERE, IS THAT THE QURAN ITSELF MEANS THAT EVERYTHING IS EXPLAINED IN DETAIL, AND THUS THAT IT IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY LIKE IT IS TOLD AND EXPLAINED. THIS PROVES THAT ISLAM'S AND MUSLIMS' CLAIMS THAT ERRORS AND OTHER NO-GOOD POINTS ARE ALLEGORIES, ETC. ARE WRONG.

*083 11/1e: “- - - from one (Allah*) Who is - - - Well-Acquainted (with all things)”. The mistaken facts in the Quran shows he is not well enough acquainted with all things. Or that someone else made the Quran. But also see 2/233h above.

084 11/5a: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth what they (non-Muslims*) conceal - - - for He knoweth well the (innermost secrets) of the hearts". You will be better off in the next life if you are a good and obedient Muslim - and "they" will get their well deserved punishment. Good! But also see 2/233h above.

085 11/5b: "- - - He knoweth well the (innermost secrets) of the hearts". See 2/233h above.

086 11/6b: "Allah knoweth (everything*) - - -". Why then f.x. 2/233h above and 35/38b below?

087 11/6c: "- - - all is in a clear Record". = all is written on beforehand by Allah = everything is predestined.

088 11/111d: "- - - for He (Allah*) knoweth well all that they do." If he exists and if he is something supernatural - good or bad.

089 11/112c: "- - - for He seeth well all that ye do". The carrot and the stick. You meet it many places and in different words in the Quran. Also see 11/111b and 11/112b above.

090 12/76h: "(Allah is*) the All-Knowing". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

091 13/17b: “Thus doth Allah (by parables) show forth - - -”. Can it really be an omniscient god that shows forth so many mistakes? Nyet – a good English word which means no with some lines under it.

(The Quran some places uses parables, etc., but then it tells or directly indicates that it is a parable or whatever. This fact makes it even more likely that all the errors, etc. Islam and Muslims try to explain away by claiming they are parables, etc., are incorrect - for one thing the Quran most clearly and MANY places states that the texts in the Quran are easy to understand, explained in detail, and to be understood literally, if nothing else is said, and for another the relatively few places where parables, etc. are used, are indicated. The Quran itself proves that these claims from Islam/Muslims are wrong.)

092 13/17-18: (A13/39): “Thus doth Allah set forth parables.” Clear and easy language: Here Allah has explained how he sets forth parables. But it is not that clear – because it is unclear if this belongs to the same context. In that case one gets another meaning: “Thus Allah set forth parables for those who respond to their Lord - - -.” Or to quote M. Asad: “For those who have responded to their Sustainer (Allah*) there is the ultimate good (al-husna) (in store) - - -.” Not quite the same. Clear text?

093 15/1d: “- - - a Quran that makes things clear.” With that many mistakes, etc., and often with diffuse text, it makes few things clear and some things very unclear - f.x. what is the foundation Islam rests on (see 15/1d)?

But there is absolutely no doubt that the Quran means the book tells and explains everything exactly and clearly = everything is to be understood like it is told or explained (= literally) if nothing else is indicated.

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More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something (not minding that they then are corrupting the texts and the Quran). A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what are parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy. Which indicates that the many parables Islam and Muslims use to explain away errors, etc. in the Quran, likely are made up claims - corrupting of the quranic texts.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran are clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, ##6/114da, 11/1b, 15/1d, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, ##41/3da, 43/2a, 44/2b-c, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, and 75/19. Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies - and corrupts the Quran - when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected here under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

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094 15/9c: "- - - We (Allah*) will assuredly guard (it (the Quran*) (from corruption)". Some Muslims mention this as a proof for that the Quran is an exact copy of Muhammad's words - Allah guards it against corruption, and then nothing can possibly have changed even a comma. But the history of the Quran is pretty turbulent, and many versions have existed - nobody knows how many (at least 4 much used before the official version was made by Caliph Utman, and at least 20+ later (a long period many more) - 14 of them canonized). This mainly because of the unfinished Arab alphabet - it was not completed until around 900 AD. Finally 7 different editions were canonized, each of them in 2 versions = 14 different. Slowly most of them fell into disuse, and today there are 2 versions in wide daily use - after Hafs and after Warsh (a few other versions are somewhat used in scattered places). So just you guess if the Quran has been corrupted!

To be more exact:

Originally parts of what Muhammad said and did were memorized by "memorizers", who then were able to quote what he had said and done at different times. Naturally far from everything he said and did during 23 years were memorized.

Years later one started writing down what the memorizers and others remembered. This was written on palm leafs, pieces of bones, and this and that. These notes + what memorizers and others remembered, resulted in a number of different Qurans, of which 4 came to dominate. But the contents were so different on many points also in those 4, that it ended in even armed strife.

To end those problems Caliph Uthman had an official Quran made, mainly based on the written notes. But Muslim sources claim he omitted more than 100 verses. It also is indicated that he may have added verses, but this tradition is weaker. Afterwards he ordered all other Qurans to be destroyed. This happened sometime between 650 and 656 AD = 20 - 45 years after Muhammad had said or done the different things. (Caliph Utman was killed in 656 AD - 10 of the 11 first caliphs were killed - really a "religion of peace".)

In spite of Uthman's orders the old Qurans were not destroyed. They lived on at least into the 800s, and may well have influenced later copies of also Uthman's version. The main problem with his version, though, was that it was written in Arab. At that time the Arab alphabet was very incomplete, as it only had the consonants. The readers had to guess the vowels and also the writing signs (f.x. full stop, the comma, etc.), and not least the points Arab later used to tell which letter some of the letters really were - the so-called diacritical points. (The Arab alphabet was not complete until around 900 AD.)

This made chaos, because in very many places different words could be guessed. An example in English: If you have the consonants "h" and "s" and know they represent a word, this word may be "his" or "has" or "house" or "hose", etc. Islam "solved" the problem by saying that all words which gave logical meaning, were right - this without ever being able to guess what Muhammad/Allah really had said, and no matter if the possible meanings varied wildly. And the situation is exactly the same today: There are very many points in Uthman's Quran where Islam still does not know what really is meant. To avoid the words "versions of the texts", Islam calls it "different ways of reading", but the different ways of reading simply are another name for different possible versions of the texts.

The result was MANY versions of the Quran over the years, depending on how the copyist understood the original "words". Dozens and many more. Like said: A total chaos.

Finally a group of top Muslim scholars led by the great Muslim teacher Ibn Mohair (dead 935 AD) decided that it was impossible to find out which variety of the many existing versions was the correct one. They decided that 7 variants each had to be accepted as a correct Quran. But as each existed in 2 versions, the group canonized all together 14 different versions as "a correct Quran".

These are the canonized 14 versions (they called it “ways of reading” – as said to hide that there were many variants). 1. name is the editor, 2. and 3. names are the narrators):

  1. 1 + 2: Nafi from Medina after Warsh or Qalun.
  2. 3 + 4: Ibn Kathir from Mecca after al-Bazzi or Qunbul.
  3. 5 + 6: Ibn Amir from Damascus after Hisham or Ibn Dhakwan.
  4. 7 + 8: Abu Amr from Basra after al-Duri or al-Susi.
  5. 9 +10: Asim from Kufa after Hafs or Abu Bakr (not the caliph).
  6. 11 +12: Hamza from Kufa after Khalaf or Khallad.
  7. 13 +14: Al-Kisai from Kufa after al-Duri or Abul Harith.

In addition there were 3 others which were good - each in 2 versions = 6 versions - and 4 which were accepted.

The good ones:

  1. 1 + 2: abu Ga'far from Medina after abu l-Harit 'Isa ibn Wardan or abu r-Rabi (Sulaiman ibn Muslim) ibn Gammaz (az-Zuhri).
  2. 3 + 4: Ja'qub ad-Hadrami from Basra after Ruwais (Muhammad ibn Muttawakkil or Rauh ibn Abdalmu'min.
  3. 5 + 6: Halaf from Kufa after Ishaq al-Warraq or Idris al Haddad.

The accepted ones:

  1. ibn Muhaisin from Mecca.
  2. al-Jazidi from Basra.
  3. al-Hasan al-Basri from Basra.
  4. al-A'mas from Kufa.

This means that all together there were 24 accepted versions - all different or much different, but all reckoned to be a correct Quran. Add the original 4 main ones + Uthman's version = 29 versions all together. (+ all the others excluded by Uthman or Ibn Mohair. We have seen no number for how many such which existed. Likely nobody ever knew for sure, but likely at least 100 and may be (many?) more.)

As you understand there is a good reason for asking Muslims which Quran is the one "perfect and without mistakes", if any - and which one Allah really sent down (if he did). Only one of these really can be 100% correct - and may be none. Most likely none - too many varieties are possible. And too many mistakes etc. in the book.

Over the years 3 of these 14 came to dominate: Nafi after Warsh, Asim after Hafs and Abu Amr after al-Duri. And today there mostly are two versions which are used: Asim after Hafs - the one used when printed in Egypt in 1924 - and Nafi after Warsh (used in parts of Africa). Asim after Hafs is dominant today, but Nafi after Warsh as mentioned is used in large parts of Africa. Also there are 4 others used in smaller areas in Africa = all together 6 versions are in daily use today.

These are facts all educated Muslim religious scholars know. All the same, and also in spite of that it is very clear that even today it is impossible to know for sure what Muhammad really said in MANY points of the Quran, they teach their subjects that "the Quran is the exact words of Muhammad, who quoted the exact words of Allah. Exact down to the last comma."

A large percentage of the Muslims honestly believe them.

Irony: The comma did not even exist in Arab when Uthman made his version of the Quran. And: The facts that there are MANY versions of the Quran + there were many more + that nobody even today knows which version is the correct one - if any (as nobody knows what Muhammad really said on very many points in the Quran) - are so essential, that we repeat these facts and the names a few times in our book(s).

####There also is a small fact: In chapter 12 Joseph was sold "for a few dirhams". But dirhams did not exist at the time of Muhammad. For one thing he thus could not talk about that coin, and if he all the same did, nobody had understood what he was talking about. A strong proof for that the Quran is not the exact words of Muhammad - at least not all of it (and if some is and some not, which are his words and which not?)

(In Arabia at the time of Muhammad one used Greek drachms. The first dirhams were copies of Persian coins where the words "In the name of Allah" were added, and made under caliph Utman. The first "real" dirhams were made under Abdalmalik in 695 AD. The Persian coins may have been called dirhams - a word derived from drachme - but it is ever so clear that even they did not exist at the time of Joseph some 2ooo+ years earlier.)

Another point is that if the Quran is not from a god, what the book says about the god guarding it, is totally without any value, as also that claim may be a made up one. And no book as full of errors and other weaknesses is from a god.

###### Yet another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt it.

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095 15/25d: "(Allah*) is Perfect in Wisdom and Knowledge". Not if he made the Quran - or did somebody else make it in his name?

096 16/28f: "- - - verily Allah knoweth all that ye (sinners*) did - - -". See 2/233h above.

097 16/35f: "- - - a Clear Message". The message in the Quran may be clear in some ways - the message "believe blindly in one god and obey Muhammad" - though not in others (like predestination contra free will, or its many mistakes and contradictions, etc.). But so what? - also Muhammad's message to the peace delegation from Khaybar was a clear message: "I guarantee you a safe return" - - - but it was not true, and he murdered them. The main thing here - and especially so as it is the foundation under a religion - is that the message is not a true one, as it is not from any god and full of mistaken facts, contradictions, etc. No god made such and so many errors like in the Quran.

BUT THERE IS ONE EXTREMELY ESSENTIAL POINT HERE. EVEN IF THE MAKER OF THE QURAN HAS NOT MANAGED TO BECLEAR AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND ALWAYS, THIS VERY CLEARLY HAS BEEN HIS INTENTION. HE HAS NOT INTENDED THAT HIS TEXTS SHOULD CONSIST OF HIDDEN MEANINGS, HIDDEN ALLEGORIES, METAPHORS, PARABLES, ETC. - WHEN HE USED SUCH ONES, HE INFORMED ABOUT IT AND/OR EXPLAINED THE MEANING. IT IS VERY CLEAR FROM MANY VERSES IN THE QURAN THAT THE TEXTS ARE INTENDED TO BE CLEAR AND EASY AND TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY. THEREFORE, WHEN ISLAM AND MUSLIMS TRY TO EXPLAIN AWAY MISTAKES, ERRORS, BAD POINTS, ETC. BY CLAIMING IT IS F.X. AN ALLEGORY, THIS CLAIM AND THIS EXPLANATION IS WRONG AND INVALID.

098 16/70c: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing - - -". Not if he made the Quran.

099 17/25a: "Thy Lord (Allah*) knoweth best what is in your hearts - - -". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

#100 18/1d: “(Allah*) hath allowed therein (in the Quran*) no Crookedness.” In a book that full of mistaken facts and other mistakes, there is a lot of crookedness. Especially the mistakes, the use of invalid “signs”, ”proofs” and as invalid logic, and the partly immoral moral code and laws, the acceptance of dishonesty in words (lies, deceit, broken oaths, etc.) and deeds (thieving/looting, extortion, slave taking, etc), "smell".

BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT THE QURAN ITSELF DECLARES THAT THERE IS NO CROCKEDNESS IN THE BOOK - THE TEXTS ARE TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY.

#101 18/1e: (A18/1): "The above phrase ("no Crookedness"*) is meant to establish the direct, unambiguous character of the Quran - - -". Do remember this each time Muslims claim that mistakes in the Quran "in reality" are allegories or similar. Also see 18/1d just above.

####Also: As there are lots of obvious crookedness in the Quran, what fact does this establish?

BUT THERE IS NO DOUBT THE QURAN ITSELF DECLARES THAT THERE IS NO CROCKEDNESS IN THE BOOK - THE TEXTS ARE TO BE UNDERSTOOD LITERALLY.

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More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what are parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran is clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1d, 17/12h, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19. Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected here under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

As serious: Each time Islam or Muslims explain away errors, etc. in the Quran, by claiming the texts means something different from what they say, they are corrupting those texts and the Quran.

####102 18/2b: “(He (Allah*) hath made it) Straight (and Clear) - - -". This is one of the verses you should remember each time a Muslim tries to explain away a clear mistake by "no, this is not literally meant - - -", which is one of the 3 most used last ditch defenses (the two others are: "You cannot understand a text in the Quran alone - you have to see the whole Surah (or the whole Quran)". And: "You cannot really understand the Quran unless you read it in Arab". Both of which are rubbish. (Well, there are 2 more: "You do not know the Quran/what you are talking about", and: "You just are an Israel lover/Muslim hater quoting what you have heard or read".) There are places where you have to know more than the actual verse and the nearest few ones to understand the meaning, but mostly the simple answer is: "If you are not able to see the essence in a meaning or something written or said, you should stay out of debates" - this Muslim claim simply is a means to make the opponent unsure, because few know the Quran well enough to see that mostly this claim is invalid. And as for reading in Arab to understand it: For one thing the Arab of Muhammad mainly was the language of primitive desert nomads even though it later is linguistically polished - there is no problems for rich modern languages like f.x. English to compete with it in vocabulary. (Also in Japan they had the same haughty self-centered meaning once upon a time: Primitive foreigners impossibly would be able to express what a highly refined language like their could. They stopped claiming it after many enough had learnt foreign languages to see the nonsense in it. And that was really was a refined cultural language, not something from primitive tribes, even though polished afterward. For another Arab at the time of Muhammad mainly was the language of primitive, uneducated tribesfolk. For a third the Arab alphabet at that time was very incomplete, so that one today often has to guess what the book really says.

Well, there always will be some words which are special for a language, and which need explanation, but that is it - and this goes for any language and is nothing special for Arab. The remaining fact is that what one brain can think, another brain of the same quality and similar education can understand, at least with a little explanation. But the claim is difficult to leave for Muslims, because they need it as an "explanation" when they lack real arguments.

103 19/97c: "So We (Allah*) made the (Quran) easy in thine (Muhammad's*) own tongue - - -". If Allah aimed for world dominance, Arab was not the correct language to choose. Latin, Greek, or Persian had been much better. They also had complete alphabets, which had made it possible to write down exact meanings - as it is now, Islam all too often have to guess what is really meant, and end up with 2 or more possible meanings (= "different ways of reading" = different versions (which Muslims vigorously claim does not exists of the Quran)).

104 20/52b: "- - - (Allah*) never errs, nor forgets - - -". Why then does he have to test people? And why does he need records?

AND HOW CAN ALL THE ERRORS IN THE QURAN BE EXPLAINED IF THIS IS CORRECT? (Only two possibilities: To lie/"explain" away, or Allah is not the one behind the book.)

105 21/4d: "He (Allah*) is the one who heareth and knoweth (all things)". Why then does a predestining, omniscient god have to test his followers? There is no logic in it - not unless the real story was that Muhammad wanted warriors and needed a way to explain his demands (plus explaining away hardship in life).

106 21/28a: "He (Allah*) knows what is before them, and what is behind them - - -." Allah knows everything - past or future (though the last is impossible also for a god, if man has free will, completely or partly). But also see 21/28b just below.

107 21/81d: "- - - for We (Allah*) do know all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

108 22/68c: "Allah knows best - - -". Allah knows nothing unless he exists. If he is a dressed up non-existing pagan god (al-Lah), he knows nothing of course. And he has never in any way manifested himself.

109 22/70a: "- - - Allah knows all that is in the heaven and on earth - - -". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

110 22/75b: "- - - Allah is He Who hears and sees (all things)". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

111 24/19c: "Allah knows - - -". Then why f.x. 2/233h above and 35/38b below?.

112 24/21f: "- - - Allah is One Who hears and knows (all things)". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

113 24/28b: "- - - Allah knows well all that ye do". = Do not try to lie - Allah knows and punishes if there is a reason. But why does he need to test somebody, when he already knows everything??

114 24/29b: "- - - Allah has knowledge of what ye reveal and what ye conceal. Similar to 24/28b above. But also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

115 24/30b: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with what they (Muslims-) do". Similar to 24/28b above. #######Also: This point combined with 24/30a just above in case tells a lot about Allah.

116 24/32c:

"- - - He (Allah*) knoweth all things". Why did he then need records? And also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

117 24/35f: "- - - Allah doth know all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

118 24/64h: "- - - Allah doth know all things". = do not try to cheat. But another point: Why does a god who knows all things, have to test his followers? - Muhammad's main explanation for why Muslims have to go to war and for why they experience setbacks. Also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

119 25/58d: "- - - and enough is He (Allah*) to be acquainted with the faults of His servants (Muslims/humans*) - - -". = Allah knows everything. See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

###120 26/2a: “These are verses of the Book that makes (things) clear.” In other words: Told and explained in clear words. But all the same Muslims as a last way out, explains – and in religious blindness often honestly believe – that errors are not errors, but are camouflaging hidden meanings or allegories. In addition there are some hundred points in the book where the exact meaning is unclear - either literally unclear or there are two or more possible meanings, often varying wildly (some places because the meaning has been expressed unclear, other places because the Arab alphabet was not complete when the Quran was written down - the vowels and the points used in Arab to signify some letters were not yet existing - and the reader has to guess these, and then there are many cases where the meaning varies according to what letters you guess are meant. To take an English sample: If you have the consonants h and s and know they represent a word, this word may be "has" or "his" or "house" or "hose").

Also see the chapter "Literal language in the Quran - according to the Quran" in "1000+ Comments on the Quran".

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More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what are parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran is clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1b, 17/12h, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19. Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected here under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

###121 27/1b: “- - - a Book (the Quran*) that makes things clear - - -”. The more mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, unclear language, etc. there are in a book, the less clear it can make things. It also simply looses credibility. The Quran in many cases simply is incredible – literally speaking. f.x. unbelievably may points with wrong facts or contradictions - in strong spite of its and Muslims' claims about it being a perfect book from a god. Remember this every time a Muslim tries to tell you that you cannot understand the Quran unless so-and-so, or that the "real" meaning of a text is not what it says, but is hidden in an allegory.

Also see the chapter "Literal language in the Quran - according to the Quran" in "1000+ Comments on the Quran".

#############BUT JUST HERE THERE IS ONE THING WHICH IS MORE ESSENTIAL: THERE IS NOT THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT THAT THE QURAN ITSELF MEANS IT MAKES THINGS CLEAR = EXPLAINS THINGS IN WAYS EASY AND CLEAR TO UNDERSTAND = LITERAL AND NOT IN HIDDEN WAYS. THIS MEANS THAT MUSLIMS EXPLAINING AWAY MISTAKES AND OTHER DARK POINTS BY CLAIMING THAT THE QURAN AT THAT OR THOSE POINTS ARE USING NOT EXPLAINED OR OBVIOUS PARABLES, ALLEGORIES, ETC. = USING HIDDEN MEANINGS - EITHER ARE WRONG OR ARE TELLING THAT THE QURAN LIES ALL THE PLACES THE BOOK SAYS IT IS USING WORDS CLEAR AND EASY - LITERAL - TO UNDERSTAND.

WELL, IT IS OK FOR US IF MUSLIMS DIRECTLY AND UNMISTAKINGLY TELL - AND TELL REPEATEDLY LIKE THEY OFTEN DO TODAY - THAT THE QURAN LIES EVEN AT SUCH CENTRAL POINTS AND WHEN USING SUCH CLEAR AND UNMISTAKEABLE STATEMENTS.

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122 27/1d: “These are verses of the Quran – a book that makes (things) clear.” No matter, points 27/1a, 27/1b and 27/1c make it clear that the Quran means the Quran is using a clear language. Which is essential, as many Muslims try to explain away mistakes with that Allah is a clumsy god unable to say exactly what he means, so "we" intelligent humans must explain what he really wanted to say, or that he did not mean what he said, but an allegory. To be blunt: This is the problem with clumsy gods - we humans must explain and find the words and the obvious explanations or meanings they were unable to express themselves.

Two much used standard ways for Islam and Muslims to try to explain away mistakes, etc.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran are unreliable or at least unclear.

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More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what are parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy. (And the claim that the Quran means something different from what it says = to corrupt the book and its text.)

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran is clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1b, 17/12h, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19. Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected here under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

#############BUT JUST HERE THE ESSENTIAL POINT IS: THERE IS NOT THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT THAT THE QURAN ITSELF MEANS IT MAKES THINGS CLEAR = EXPLAINS THINGS IN WAYS EASY AND CLEAR TO UNDERSTAND = LITERAL AND NOT IN HIDDEN WAYS. THIS MEANS THAT MUSLIMS EXPLAINING AWAY MISTAKES AND OTHER DARK POINTS BY CLAIMING THAT THE QURAN AT "THAT" OR "THOSE" POINTS ARE USING NOT EXPLAINED OR OBVIOUS PARABLES, ALLEGORIES, ETC. = USING HIDDEN MEANINGS - EITHER ARE WRONG OR ARE TELLING THAT THE QURAN LIES ALL THE PLACES THE BOOK SAYS IT IS USING WORDS CLEAR AND EASY - LITERAL - TO UNDERSTAND.

WELL, IT IS OK FOR US IF MUSLIMS DIRECTLY AND UNMISTAKINGLY TELL - AND TELL REPEATEDLY LIKE THEY OFTEN DO TODAY - THAT THE QURAN LIES EVEN AT SUCH CENTRAL POINTS AND WHEN USING SUCH CLEAR AND UNMISTAKEABLE STATEMENTS.

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY AND CLEARLY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

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123 27/6e: “(Allah is*) Wise and All-Knowing”. If he is all-knowing, why then does he have to test even his followers?

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124 28/2: “These are verses of the Quran – a book that makes (things) clear.” No matter, points 27/1a, 27/1b and 27/1c make it clear that the Quran means the Quran is using a clear language. Which is essential, as many Muslims try to explain away mistakes with that Allah is a clumsy god unable to say exactly what he means, so "we" intelligent humans must explain what he really wanted to say, or that he did not mean what he said, but an allegory. To be blunt: This is the problem with clumsy gods - we humans must explain and find the words and the obvious explanations or meanings they were unable to express themselves.

Two much used standard ways for Islam and Muslims to try to explain away mistakes, etc.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran are unreliable or at least unclear.

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More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what are parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran is clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1b, 17/12h, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19. Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated. In any case the claim is a corruption of the texts in the Quran.

The listed points are all collected here under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

#############BUT JUST HERE THE ESSENTIAL POINT IS: THERE IS NOT THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT THAT THE QURAN ITSELF MEANS IT MAKES THINGS CLEAR = EXPLAINS THINGS IN WAYS EASY AND CLEAR TO UNDERSTAND = LITERAL AND NOT IN HIDDEN WAYS. THIS MEANS THAT MUSLIMS EXPLAINING AWAY MISTAKES AND OTHER DARK POINTS BY CLAIMING THAT THE QURAN AT "THAT" OR "THOSE" POINTS ARE USING NOT EXPLAINED OR OBVIOUS PARABLES, ALLEGORIES, ETC. = USING HIDDEN MEANINGS - EITHER ARE WRONG OR ARE TELLING THAT THE QURAN LIES ALL THE PLACES THE BOOK SAYS IT IS USING WORDS CLEAR AND EASY - LITERAL - TO UNDERSTAND.

WELL, IT IS OK FOR US IF MUSLIMS DIRECTLY AND UNMISTAKINGLY TELL - AND TELL REPEATEDLY LIKE THEY OFTEN DO TODAY - THAT THE QURAN LIES EVEN AT SUCH CENTRAL POINTS AND WHEN USING SUCH CLEAR AND UNMISTAKEABLE STATEMENTS.

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY AND CLEARLY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

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125 29/3d: "- - - Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false". In this case "true" and "false" stands for "good Muslims" contra "hypocrites and non-Muslims". Hypocrites also is one of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

126 31/28b: "- - - Allah is He Who hears and sees (all things)". This is an often repeated, but never proved warning to Muslims about on one hand to be good and obedient, or they will get punishment instead of joy, and on the other hand a reminder of that "be soothed" - the bad non-Muslims will get their well deserved punishment. Also see 2/233h above.

127 31/34h: “Verily, with Allah is full knowledge and he is acquainted (with all things)”. See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

128 32/6a: “- - - the Knower of all things (Allah*) - - -“. Something is seriously wrong: Allah is not the knower of all things if the Quran is representative for his knowledge.

129 33/51e: "- - - Allah knows (all) that is in your hearts - - -". Why then f.x. 2/233h above and 35/38b below?

###130 33/51g: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing - - -". How can it then be possible he does not know that to have all your possessions stolen is a catastrophe for anybody, that to be made a slave is destroying for the life of any human? - and how can it be possible that he does not know that to be raped is destroying for the life of a woman - not to mention a child?. Or does he know, but does not care as long as his warriors and terrorists get money and pleasure and power?

######These rules are not only unethical and immoral, but downright disgusting - especially the point that it should be done in the name of a god (during/after "holy" war - jihad).

"Do to others like you want others do to you".

131 33/54b: "- - - Allah has full knowledge of all things." The old reminder and warning - here connected to: Do not have sex with my widows. A self centered man? But also see 2/233h above.

132 34/1h: "- - - He (Allah*) is - - - acquainted with all things". A warning - do not try to cheat. But also a promise - real or not - about good things for good Muslims . Plus see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

But if he is acquainted with all things, he was not involved in the making or delivery of a book as full of errors, etc. as the Quran.

133 34/2a: "He (Allah*) knows all that goes into the earth, and all that comes out thereof; all that comes down from the sky and all that ascends thereto - - -". Nice claims. But where is the documentation? - words are cheap.

134 35/8m: "- - - Allah knows well all that they do". Only possible if he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad.

*135 41/3a: “A Book (the Quran*) whereof the verses are explained in detail - - -”. Many verses are not explained in detail - see f.x. all the extra explanations that has been necessary concerning Islamic laws.

#######136 41/3b: “A Book (the Quran*) whereof the verses are explained in detail - - -”. As mention in 41/3a just above, far from enough details are included. But the words at least make it clear that there are no hidden meanings behind them (unless othervice is specified). This means that when Muslims and Islam explain away mistakes, etc. with that it is not the clear and /or explained meaning which is meant, but some hidden meaning or parable or something behind it, they are wrong. Muslims often try such ways of "explaining" errors, etc. away. Also see 41/3d and 41/3e below

137 41/3c: “A Book (the Quran*) whereof the verses are explained in detail - - -.” Oh, no! They are not explained in detail, according to Islam and Muslims – they are allegories with the meaning hidden, or with a very different meaning, so "we" must explain it - - - especially if that is the only way to “explain” away errors and mistakes. Also see 3/7 and 11/1 and 41/3b above and 41/3d just below.

###138 41/3da: "A Book (the Quran*) whereof the verses are explained in detail - - -.” The main and the essential point with this verse, is that it is one of those verses which kills Muslims' nearly innumerable tries to explain away mistakes, etc. by trying to claim it "in reality" means something else than what it is saying - clearly dishonesty for learned Muslims who know better, but not necessarily for the ones who honestly believe what they claim (though it is dishonesty to talk in big letters without checking that what they claim, really is true). Here - and in f.x. 3/7 and 11/1b - is clearly stated that the verses are explained in detail = they are meaning exactly what they say and explain - which often is wrong. By the way: Is it possible for humans to explain things better - or differently - than a god? Also see 41/3b above.

Anyone wanting to try to “explain” away difficult points like mistakes or invalid logic or contradictions by calling them allegories etc. should read this sentence. It even is written 4 times and thus a solidly cemented and nailed truth: The Quran is to be understood literally, and search for hidden meanings is only for Allah, and such search only is for the ones “in whose hearts is perversity - - -.”

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More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what is parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran is clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally. You find it f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114da, 11/1b, 15/1b, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 44/2b-c, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, and 75/19 Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected here under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

139 41/40k: "- - - verily He (Allah*) seeth (clearly) all that ye do". See f.x. 2/233h and 35/38b above.

140 42/12e: "- - - He (Allah*) knows full well all things". Not if he made the Quran. And also see 2/233h and 35/38b above.

141 42/24m: "For He (Allah*) knows well the secrets of all hearts". Similar to 42/25 below. Also see 2/33e and 35/38b above.

#142 43/2a: “By the Book (the Quran*) that makes things clear - - -.” Which also must mean the language is not hiding the meanings and it is intended that everything shall be easy to understand, plus it explains things in ways clear to see. Also see 11/1b, 19/97, and 26/2 above, and 44/2 below.

Also: Sentences starting with "by" in the Quran normally - like here - are oaths. Here the Quran swears by the Quran. Oaths are ok according to the Quran and in Islam - even disuse of oaths may be ok. According to the Bible you should not swear, and if you all the same do so, you have to keep your word. One more strong difference in the respective moral codes - a difference strong enough to be one more circumstantial proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god (and thus also that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion).

####143 43/3c: "We (Allah*) have made it a Quran in Arabic, that ye may be able to understand - - -". It is clear that Allah has done everything to make the Quran plain and easy to understand - he even made the Quran in the local language and in texts they would be able to understand. And who can make a text easier to understand correctly than an omniscient god? - not to mention when it is written in the local language to make it impossible not to understand exactly what was said and meant. Worth remembering each time Muslims try to explain away mistakes with that the text does not mean what it says, but something else or something hidden (a corruption of the respective texts in the Quran). Also see 43/2a and 43/2b above.

But for a god wanting to reach the whole world, Arab was a lousy choice. One thing is that it was a language mainly used by uneducated tribesmen, and thus with a limited vocabulary. Another thing that it mostly was a language for the locals in Arabia - mainly farmers at the oasis and Bedouins, and not a widely known language like Latin, Greek or Persian. But the main problem is that Arab did not have a complete alphabet. Its alphabet mainly consisted of the consonants. It lacked the vocals, the points Arab today use to signify some letters - called diacritical points - and even the signs use when writing, like the full stop, the comma, etc. (Which makes the Muslim claim that the Quran is the correct words of Muhammad down to the last comma, a joke - the comma did not even exist at that time.) The incomplete alphabet even today makes serious problems for Islam, as it often is impossible to know what exactly is meant by words and sentences. Islam has "solved" this problem by declaring that all possible translations of the old manuscripts which give logical meaning, are correct. To hide that this results in a lot of different versions of the texts, they call it "different ways of reading". The Arab alphabet was not completed until around 900 AD - some 250 years after the official Quran was written.

####144 43/4b: “- - - it (the Quran*) is in the Mother of Books, in Our (Allah’s*) presence, high (in dignity) - - -”. This is one of the places in the Quran where Muhammad claims the Quran is taken from (is a copy of) "the Mother Book" in Allah’s own home/Heaven. But no book containing hundreds of mistakes, hundreds of contradictions, hundreds of loose claims and statements, lots of invalid logic, lots of invalid “signs” and lots of invalid “proofs” easy for anybody with good and wide education too see through, hundreds of places with unclear language, etc., is copied from a revered Mother Book, high in dignity and esteem, in the perfect Heaven, the home of a perfect, omnipotent and omniscient god. See also 13/39,43/4, 85/21-22. A nonsense claim.

##145 44/2b: “By the Book (the Quran*) that makes things clear - - -.” Which also must mean the language is not hiding other meanings, and it is intended that everything shall be meant like it is said and easy to understand, plus it explains things in ways clear to see. Also see 11/1b, 19/97, 26/2, and 43/2 above.

Also see the chapter "Literal language in the Quran - according to the Quran" in "1000+ Comments on the Quran", Book H2.

*146 44/2c: “- - - the Book (the Quran*) that makes things clear - - -”. A book with this many mistakes and dubious arguments, etc. - see 40/75 and 41/12 - dictated by a man with a dubious character - see f.x. 31/30 - does not really make things clear.

Anyone wanting to try to “explain” away difficult points like mistakes or invalid logic or contradictions by calling them allegories etc. should read this sentence. The Quran is to be understood literally and search for hidden meanings is only for Allah, and such search only is for the ones “in whose hearts is perversity - - -.” Similar is mentioned at least these places: 3/7, 11/1b, 19/97, 26/2, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/17, 54/22, 54/32, and 54/40.

147 44/58b: “Verily, We (Allah*) have made this (Quran) easy - - -". No god ever made a book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc.

###148 44/58e: “Verily, We (Allah*) have made this (Quran) easy, in thy (Muhammad’s or Arabs') tongue in order that they (people*) may give heed.” Also see f.x. 3/7 above and 54/17 below. There is no doubt that Muhammad/Allah meant the Quran to be understood literally. To search for hidden meanings "a la" not clearly indicated allegories, is wrong. All the same Muslims and Islam use such claims in east and west as a last resort to be able to “explain” that which is not explainable if one reads the Quran literally and in the way Allah clearly states that it is to be read and understood – recommended for everyone except for those “in whose hearts is perversity” (3/7).

Anyone wanting to try to “explain” away difficult points like mistakes or invalid logic or contradictions by calling them allegories etc. should read this sentence and other similar sentences in the Quran: The Quran is to be understood literally and search for hidden meanings is only for Allah, and such search only is for the ones “in whose hearts is perversity - - -.” . This is mentioned at least these places: 3/7, 11/1b, 19/97, 26/2, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/17, 54/22, 54/32, and 54/40.

149 48/26g: “And Allah has full knowledge of all things”. Why then did he have to test even his followers - f.x. by sending them on raids for riches and captives for slaves and extortion for Muhammad (and himself?)

150 49/1i: “- - - Allah - - - hears and knows all things.” See 2/233h above.

151 49/13e: “And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).” Not if he holds a “Mother Book” (see f.x. 13/39 - 43/4 - 85/21-22) like the Quran revered in his heaven, and not if he sent down a copy of a book with that much wrong contents as a basis for his religion. See 40/75 and 41/12. Also see 4/176 – 15/86 - 27/6 – 27/44 -31/34 – 32/6 – 35/28 - 48/26 – 49/1 – 49/16 – 49/18 – 57/3 -58/7 – 64/4 – 65/12 – 67/13.

**Besides: Have you ever noticed that the one who most needs to boast – loudly and frequently – about how truthful he is, is the cheater and the swindler, and the one boasting about his knowledge is the medium to rather ok, but not top intelligent and educated one? – The really honest and the really intelligent and wise persons never need to boast about those things. Real honesty and real intelligence makes itself felt after some time of close connection – if there is a need for boasting, something is wrong.

152 49/13f: “And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).” See 2/233h above.

153 49/16c: "He (Allah*) has full knowledge of all things".

  1. If this had been true, why then does he have to test his followers - f. x. by sending them to war?
  2. If this had been true, why then so many wrong facts - may be unbelievable 2ooo - etc. in the Quran?
  3. Either the claim - never proved as always in Islam - is not true, or Allah has not made the Quran. No omniscient god makes a book with that many mistaken facts, etc.

154 53/32g: "He (Allah*) knows you (persons*) well - - - when you are hidden in your mothers' womb". That is when Allah decides whether you are going to end in Hell or in Paradise according to Hadiths - when you are a 4 months old fetus. How is that possible if you have free will and can decide what good or bad things to do in this life? Remember here that full precognition in spite of the Quran's claims is impossible even for an omniscient god if man has a free will - the man/woman always can change his/her mind once more.

#155 54/17a: “And We (Allah*) have indeed made the Quran easy to understand - - -.” Anyone wanting to try to “explain” away difficult points like mistakes or invalid logic or contradictions by calling them allegories etc. should read this sentence and there are a number of similar sentences in the Quran, so that there is no doubt Muhammad really meant it. It even is written 4 times just in this small chapter and thus a solidly cemented and nailed truth: The Quran is to be understood literally and search for hidden meanings is only for Allah, and such search only is for the ones “in whose hearts is perversity - - -.” .

Also see the chapter "Literal language in the Quran - according to the Quran" in "1000+ Comments on the Quran".

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More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant (= they change/corrupt the texts and the book) - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what are parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran is clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1b, 17/12h, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19 Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected here under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

Also see 54/17b below.

As serious: How reliable is a religion which accepts the use of dishonesty in its teaching?

156 54/17b: “And We (Allah*) have indeed made the Quran easy to understand - - -.” It clearly is in plain words which are easy to understand – and the allegories mostly explained or easy to understand. But no! - according to Islam and to many Muslims – much of it is allegories, parables, etc. with very hidden or different meanings - - - at least if that is the only way Muslims can “explain” away errors or mistakes. Also see 3/7 and 11/1 above. ALSO SEE 54/17a JUST ABOVE.

***157 54/22b: “And We (Allah*) have indeed made the Quran easy to understand - - -.” Anyone wanting to try to “explain” away difficult points like mistakes or invalid logic or contradictions by calling them allegories, parables, etc. should read this sentence. It even is written 4 times and thus a solidly cemented and nailed truth: The Quran is to be understood literally and search for hidden meanings is only for Allah, and such search only is for the ones “in whose hearts is perversity - - -.” . This is mentioned at least these places: 3/7, 11/1b, 19/97, 26/2, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/17, 54/22, 54/32, and 54/40.

158 54/32a: “And We (Allah*) have indeed made the Quran easy to understand - - -”. This in a way is very correct – the language is plain and simple, though often unclear or with two or more possible meanings, and the Quran itself makes it clear that one is to understand it literally (though many Muslims claim that verses with mistakes are allegories, parables, etc. – it is an easy way to use to flee from difficult questions).

The statement that it is easy to understand, also means that it is to be understood like it is written - if not it was not "easy to understand".

But it is all the same at least partly wrong – partly because there are so many places it is difficult to guess which word is really meant. Separate books are needed to explain the Quran - there are many such ones. And if you read any of the good ones, you will find that even today there are many points in the book Islam has not been able to understand, and even many more points they still do not know the exact meaning of - or which one of two or more meanings is the "correct" one. But it is easy to see that Muhammad meant it was easy and not complicated to understand - and an omniscient god had been able to compose a book that was possible to understand and impossible to misunderstand or not understand, just like Muhammad claimed and surely believed and intended. Who composed the Quran?

Also see the chapter "Literal language in the Quran - according to the Quran" in "1000+ Comments on the Quran".

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More down to the Earth: Muslims and Islam often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what is parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran are clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1b, 17/12h, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19 Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. ######In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected here under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

############How reliable is a religion which accepts the use of dishonesty, deceit, etc. (f.x. al-Taqiyya, Kitman, Hilah, "war is deceit", and even disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah can cheat, cheating is ok - but how much cheating is it then in the Quran? - by Allah or by Muhammad) in its teaching?

***159 54/32b: “And We (Allah*) have indeed made the Quran easy to understand - - -.” Anyone wanting to try to “explain” away difficult points like mistakes or invalid logic or contradictions by calling them allegories etc. should read this sentence. It even is written 4 times only in this chapter, and thus a solidly cemented and nailed truth: The Quran is to be understood literally and search for hidden meanings is only for Allah, and such search only is for the ones “in whose hearts is perversity - - -.” . This is mentioned at least these places: 3/7, 11/1b, 19/97, 26/2, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/17, 54/22, 54/32, and 54/40.

####160 54/40a: “And We (Allah*) have indeed made the Quran easy to understand - - -.” ##########Anyone wanting to try to “explain” away difficult points like mistakes or invalid logic or contradictions by calling them allegories etc. should read this sentence. It even is written 4 times and thus a solidly cemented and nailed truth: The Quran is to be understood literally and search for hidden meanings is only for Allah, and such search only is for the ones “in whose hearts is perversity - - -.” . This is mentioned at least these places: 3/7, 11/1b, 19/97, 26/2, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/17, 54/22, 54/32, and 54/40.

There is no doubt whatsoever about that the Quran itself means that the Quran is to be understood literally mainly. And that to look for hidden meanings are wrong. Remind any Muslim trying to “explain” away problems by pretending or claiming they are allegories, about this fact.

161 57/3d: “- - - He (Allah*) has full knowledge of all things”. Not if he had anything to do with the Quran - see 40/75 and other places. And besides: Why then did he have to test even his followers?

162 57/4h: "And Allah sees well all that ye do". The standard warning: Be a good and obedient Muslim, because Allah sees everything - true or not, the warning has an effect if people believe in it. And no matter if the religion is made up or not, it was a convenient effect for Muhammad - and for his successors.

163 57/6b: "- - - He (Allah*) has full knowledge of the secrets of (all) hearts". See 57/4h above - and not least: Why - why - then does he have to test his followers - f.x. by sending them to fight wars for Muhammad? - there is no logic in it. Not unless this claims motif in reality is hiding Muhammad's lust for war and riches (for "buying" followers - which he clearly did according to the Quran) and power by means of what he named "holy" wars, though the very majority of them were pretty unholy ones, where riches and plunder were the main goal.

164 58/1f: "- - - Allah hears and sees (all things)". See 2/233h and 35/38b above.

165 58/11f: "And Allah is well acquainted with all that ye do." See f.x. 2/233h, 35/38b, 58/7c, and 58/7d above.

166 58/13g: "And Allah is well acquainted with all that ye do." See f.x. 2/233h, 35/38b, 58/7c, and 58/7d above.

167 60/1k: "- - - I (Allah*) know full well all that ye (people*) conceal - - -" - so do not try to cheat on Allah - or in this life on Muhammad. But also see 2/233h and 35/38b above.

168 62/8f: "- - - the Knower of things secret and open - - -". See 2/233h and 35/38b above.

169 63/11c: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with (all) that ye do". See 2/233h and 35/38b above.

170 64/4c: "- - - Allah knows well the (secrets) of (all) hearts". Why then does he have to test his followers - f.x. by sending them into war to kill fellow human beings or be killed or mutilated (an alternative the Quran never mention), even though he claims to be a benevolent and good god?. Something is wrong also here.

171 64/11d: "- - - for Allah knows everything". The ever recurring question: If he knows everything, why - why - then does he have to test his followers, f.x. in war? There exists no logic in it - - - not unless the claims about test in reality is Muhammad's excuse and explaining away his own need for warriors for raids and wars for riches (for attracting more followers like explained in the Quran) and power.

172 64/18b: "(Allah is) Knower of what is hidden and what is open - - -". See f.x. 2/233h, and 35/38b and 64/11d above.

173 72/26: "He (Allah*) (alone) knows the Unseen - - -". It is very clear that #####Muhammad did not see or know the unknown - was no "seer", the original name for "a prophet". "A seer" - and thus a prophet when the title was changed from "seer" to "prophet" (1. Sam. 9/9) - was one who was able to see the unseen. Muhammad was no real prophet - he was unable to make prophesies

Only Allah knows the unseen - nobody else, included Muhammad.

174 84/23: "But Allah has full Knowledge of what they conceal (in their hearts)". Then why does he have to test them? - or is this only an "explanation" used by Muhammad because he wanted warriors? Also see 2/233h above.

175 96/14: "Knoweth he (a non. Muslim*) not that God (Allah*) doth see - - -". But if it is true that Allah sees - and knows - everything, why then does he have to test people?! Or is it in reality Muhammad who needs an explanation for why he wants them to go on raids and to war for him?

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