Allah in the Quran, Chapter 12

 

    ALLAH, THE CLAIMED CREATOR

     

    001 More or less all religions have their legends about how the world, the heaven, and life was created - and mostly also about resurrection to a next life. A possible next life is outside the realms of science - but if there is such a next life, the Quran's alternative only is one of many. F.x. Yahweh according to the Bible is a strong competitor. Even more: As the Quran and all its errors is not from any god, it is highly improbable that the Quran's alternative is correct. As the Quran is a made up book - by one or more humans (mentally ill or not - f.x. TLE, Temporal Lobe epilepsy like modern medical science suspects) or by the dark forces (the only possibilities as made by a god is impossible - the quality of the Quran is too low) - most likely also Allah is a made up god (and this even more so as there are not one provable trace from him or his teaching older than 610 AD, when Muhammad started Islam), and not a single proof for even his existence. And if he all the same do exist, it is highly unlikely he is correctly describe among all the errors and worse in the Quran)./p>

    The Quran and Islam also have the problem that the Quran states resurrection in body, which is a bit difficult to believe in - and resulting in a restricted next life. But as Muhammad's Paradise mainly offers bodily pleasures, Muhammad needed resurrection in body.

    002 But concerning this life, there is modern science. And modern science "kills" all religious theories in the Quran about the creation of the universe (the universe in our meaning of the world, was totally unknown in the old times - whenever you meet claims about gods created the universe we know about today, it is the result of "adjustments" or "explanations" - corruption - of quranic texts not talking about such a universe (honesty is not always the main thing). Similar goes for the claimed creation of the (visible) Heaven, the often flat Earth, and not least of life.

    003 And here Islam is in an extra difficult position, because they claim that the Quran either has existed since eternity and is sent down by their omniscient god, or that it is made by their omniscient god before the 7 Heavens and the 7 Earths were created. The problem is that as the book is delivered by a god, and on top of that revered by the god and his angels in Heaven, there cannot be mistakes, contradictions, wrong logic, or anything - no omniscient god makes mistakes. Therefore Islam is forced to adjust the meaning of the texts to fit modern knowledge where this is possible, and then to explain away either the errors in the texts or deny scientific facts to make the book and scientific or unscientific facts or "facts" come together. (A few years ago a Muslim imam or something - in Saudi Arabia if we remember correctly - became renown all over the world for 15 laughing minutes by his statement that it was wrong and impiety to claim that the Earth is a sphere, as the Quran tells it is flat!).

    004 Modern science also has quite strong documentation, and strong at least circumstantial and empirical proofs for that life was not created, but developed - in 2012 AD science f.x. documented that all animal DNA has one origin. Whereas more or less every believer in creation believe in creationism because of religious ideas and religiously based wishful thinking, not because of hard knowledge.

    Below is the Quran's claims about creation. Not much of it really corresponds to modern real knowledge (though Islam does its very best by honest and not always honest arguments to make the two at least seemingly fit each other). It is for you to find out if you want to believe it.

    Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable are that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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    005 2/21b: “(Allah*) created you - - -” Reality shows that you exist. But the rest is an unproved statement. See 6/2b and 11/7a below.

    006 2/22a: “(Allah*) has made the earth - - -”. The Earth is there, but nothing is proved about who made it - it just is part of nature. Islam often high-jack natural phenomena and pretend they prove Allah, but any and all such claims are logically invalid, as long as it is not proved it really is Allah who is behind it. Actually Islam has got not one single valid proof for Allah - and not one for Muhammad being connected to a god.

    007 2/22c: “- - - (made*) the heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong – referring to the 7 heavens of the Quran - - - and of wrong Greek and Persian astronomy at the time of Muhammad. See 2/29d+e - 17/44a – 23/17a – 23/86a – 41/12a - 65/12a – 67/3a+b - 71/15a+b - 71/15-16a+b – 78/12a-b, and not least 31/10b+c (another heavenly mistake). Also see 2/22d just below).

    *008 2/22d: “- - - and (made*) the heavens (plural and wrong – see 2/22c just above*) your canopy - - -”. The heaven/sky is no canopy. The “heaven” we see at daytime, really is an illusion caused by bending and splitting of the sunlight, and the “smooth” heaven we see at night, also is an illusion, as we are unable to see the third dimension at those distances, and get the impression that the stars all are at the same distance from us. Any god had known this, but Mohammad not. Also see 67/3a+b and 67/5a+b+d below. Muslims tend to explain the heavens (plural and wrong) with vague claims about space and stars and galaxies - but each time they then “forget” to explain f.x. how the stars are fastened to the lowermost of the 7 heavens the Quran tells exists. And they forget the moon (and the sun?) among the heavens – beyond the stars! They also sometimes tell that the 7 heavens = 7 layers in the atmosphere, and the 7 earths = 7 layers in the Earth. No comments - but think about stars like Aldebaran - a giant star - fixed to a layer in our atmosphere below our moon. Or "people" living on these earths like the Quran claims, inside the Earth. A joke - or at least two. See 37/6c and 65/12b for much more about this.

    009 2/28c: "- - - He (Allah*) gave you life - - -". One more of the many valueless lose claims there are so many of in the Quran - valueless because it nowhere is proved that it is done by a god, not to mention by Allah. Any priest or layman in any religion can claim just the same cheap claims for his god(s) - words are that cheap. But this claim all the same is interesting, as Yahweh (not the same god as Allah in spite of the Quran's never proved claims, as you will see other places in this and others of our books) several times proved his existence and his power according both to the Quran and to the Bible - if at least one of them speaks the truth at this point. Whereas Allah has proved exactly nothing - not even his own existence or a connection to Muhammad. Also see 6/2b and 21/56c below.

    010 2/28f: "- - - (Allah*) will again bring you (persons*) to life (after death*) - - -". Muhammad/Allah were many times asked for proofs for thing like this, but were unable to prove neither this nor anything else - nothing of any consequence is proved even by simple witnesses in Islam. Until documented these are just more cheap words. There are many cheap words in the Quran. Yahweh many times proved his ability to resurrect the dead (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/35, Mark 5/71, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt. 27/52, Acts 20/10) if the Bible or even the Quran tells the truth about this, Allah was never able to prove anything.

    According to the Bible it is Yahweh/God who performs the resurrections at the Day of Doom.

    011 2/29a: “(Allah*) hath created for you all things that are on earth - - -”. All things on Earth are either natural or manmade - there is no proof for it being made by a god, and thus it proves no god - not to mention a special god like Allah. Also see 11/7a.

    012 2/29e: “- - - He (Allah*) gave order and perfection to the seven firmaments (= heavens*) - - -”. Here one definitely needs good proofs, because this statement is very wrong - there exist no seven firmaments, only one, and even that one is an illusion, not a material heaven. But you find these claims about 7 heavens/firmaments/tracts f.x. in 2/29d+e, 17/44a, 23/17a, 23/86a, 41/12a-f, 65/12a 65/12b (see much more about this here), 67/3a+b, 67/5d, 71/15a+b, 71/15-16a+b, 78/12a-b - all together the Quran mentions "heavens" in plural at least 199 times; there is no doubt the Quran means there are 7 heavens (and as the stars are fastened to the lowermost of them - f.x. 67/5a+d - they have to be material ones - if not the stars could not be fastened to it). In 67/3 you also are told they are places one above the other, which means they of course are built successively higher above the Earth - which also is clear from most places in the Quran where the place of the heavens is indicated. Some modern Muslims try to place the heavens in space, deep space included. But among others f.x. 67/3 prohibits this, as "up" and "down" ("one above the other") has no meaning as part of the real space. Also see 37/6c and 65/12b.

    By the way: 67/12b also claims there are 7 Earths, and give their names according to Islam.

    p> There also is no doubt that the Quran believes the heavens are material - if not it was not possible to build them or to fix the stars to the lowermost heaven, like the Quran states several places. And also the physical resurrected good Muslims need something physical to walk on in their heaven. No god had believed this - but Muhammad did, as this was what one believed in the Middle East at the time of Muhammad. The seven heavens are taken from old Greek astronomy - or perhaps from Persian astronomy, which also believed in 7 heavens. Any god, but not Muhammad, would have known it was very wrong. Islam has several “explanations” concerning this very obvious mistake, but we have never seen or heard any Muslim mention even the possibility that Muhammad’s picture about astronomy could be explained by his believing in Greek or Persian such (which are the basis for the picture of geography and astronomy in the Quran).

     

    Muslims also sometimes explains that 7 in old Arab was a synonym for “many” (and 70 for “very many“), and that the Quran consequently does not mean 7 but many. But honestly “many” is at least as wrong as “7” (and 7 heavens as said was the astronomy of that time).

    013 2/73c: "Thus Allah bringeth the dead to life - - -". Even if we skip the fact that according to the Bible Allah was not involved with Moses - his god was Yahweh - this is an interesting claim, as the Quran several places claims Allah has the power of resurrection, but never documents it - there only are the claims like here. (Whereas there are at least 9 cases of resurrection in the Bible - 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/35, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt. 27/52, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10 + Jesus. Plus 1 - 2 times in the Quran, but connected to Jewish/Christian background.

    014 2/117a: “To Him (Allah*) is due the primal origin of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -”. To Allah or to the nature? Science believes more in nature, and Allah never proved the opposite - or anything of any consequence at all. One of the very many never proved claims used in the Quran to try to glorify Allah.

    015 2/164a: “In the creation of the heavens (plural and wrong*) - - - are Signs for a people that are wise.” Wrong. Without a proof for that it really was the work of Allah, the sign is invalid. And about some flattery of the reader - see 2/164c and 13/3j below.

    *016 2/164f: “- - - the rain which Allah sends down from the skies and the life which He gives to an earth which is dead”. Any god had known it was alive with roots or seeds, not dead - it only looked so. There f.x. is a difference between "dead" and "hibernating".

    017 2/164g: “- - - in the beasts of all kinds that He (Allah*) scatters through the earth - - - indeed are Signs for a people that are wise.” Indeed, this people from different religions have tried for x years to prove what their god(s) - not just Allah - did. Till this day none has proved one iota of it - perhaps with the exception of in the Bible - - - if the Bible is true. Plus some flattery - see 2/164d above and 13/3j below.

    018 2/258c: "My (Abraham's*) Lord (here claimed to be Allah*) is He who giveth life and death." Variations of this interesting claim you meet several places in the Quran - interesting because Allah and Muhammad never were able to prove anything like this, whereas if the old books tell the truth about this, Yahweh proved it at least 9 times in the Bible (1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/35, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt. 27/52, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10 + Jesus) and at least one or two times in the Quran - - - if the books are reliable on this point. As for Jesus: As it is clear - if at least one of the book tells the truth about this - that the old Jewish god really had power over death, there is no real reason why Jesus could not be killed and resurrected, except that then he clearly was something Muhammad was not, and with connections Muhammad had not, and Muhammad thus impossibly could be the greatest of the prophets. Jesus, therefore, had to be "played down" to make him smaller than the claims about Muhammad.

    019 2/260c: "Show me (Abraham*) how thou (Allah*) givest life to the dead". An interesting sentence, as Allah never - never - showed neither this nor anything else - Yahweh proved it if the old books tell the truth about this, but never Allah (except in borrowed, made up legends).

    *020 3/6a: “He (Allah*) is it Who shapes you in the womb as He pleases.” Conception is a most natural process - one that even Muslims like very much to indulge in, sometimes whether the woman is willing or not - and if the woman is your slave or prisoner, rape may be a right, “lawful and god”, for you - just ask Muhammad, who according to Islam (among others Ibn Ishaq) practiced rape himself - f.x. Rayhana bint Amr and - at nearly 60 himself - the 17 year old Safijja bint Huayay, just after he had tortured her husband, Kenana (or Kinana) ibn al-Rabi, to death (as for Safijja one of his men, Abu Ayub, waited outside the tent in case she should resist so much that it became dangerous for Muhammad and he needed help - but he managed the rape without help).

    The Quran often "high-jack" natural phenomena and uses them for glorification signs" or "proofs" for Allah - always without any documentation for that Allah really is the one behind the phenomena.

    021 3/27b: "- - - Thou (Allah*) bringest Living out of the dead - - -". This interesting claim is repeated in different versions several places in the Quran - interesting because Allah never has proved he is stronger than death (actually he never has proved anything of any essence at all, included his own existence or a connection to Muhammad), except claims in a few repeated legends or fairy tales. But Yahweh has proved it several times if either the Quran or the Bible tells the truth on this point. (F.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2.Kings 4/34-35, Matt. 9/25, Matt 27/52, Luke 6/14, Luke 8/53, John 11/43-44, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10 - and Jesus himself according to the Bible). Plus one or two times according to the Quran.

    *022 3/59b: “He (Allah*) created him (Adam (and Jesus)*) from dust, - - -”. The Quran tells about many ways man was created - 13 different if you are strict, 5 - 7 if you are less strict. Only 1 can be true, as man (Adam) was created only once. Actually according to science all of them are wrong, as man developed from earlier primates.

    Some Muslims take pride in that archaeologists has found that the human race has passed through so-called bottlenecks, and that all now may have one “mother” in common - the archaeological Eve - and one common “father” - the less known archaeological Adam. "Hurray! Here is the PROOF!", you may hear - "here is Eve and Adam!". What not a single of them has ever mentioned as far as we have heard, is the fact that this “Eve” lived some 160ooo to 200ooo (195ooo?) years ago, whereas the corresponding “Adam” lived much later - may be as late as 60ooo - 70ooo (64ooo?) years ago, Eve in Africa, Adam most likely in Asia (perhaps near the Caspian Sea). Not a couple exactly! (And once more; actually the Adam from the Bible and the Quran most likely never existed - man developed from a primate, he was not created into sudden existence). Also: The fact that science has borrowed the names Adam and Eve from the Bible, does not prove the Quran. See also 6/2b below.

    023 3/59c: (Allah said:) "'Be' and he (Adam/Jesus?*) was". This is in strict contradiction to the verse claiming the god could not have a son, because he had no woman. Yahweh just could say "Be" and f.x. Jesus was.

    024 3/156h: "It is Allah that gives Life or Death - - -". Again this claim which is interesting for the simple reason that this is repeated several times in the Quran, but Allah has never proved it - claimed it in some borrowed legends, but never anything but words - - - but both Jesus and Yahweh have done so repeatedly if the old books tell the truth.(1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Matt. 9/25, Luke 6/14-15, Luke 8/53-55, John 11/43-44, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10 - and Jesus himself). But Allah? - nothing but words, not even a peanut. When we have the choice between lofty words only and reality, we always believe in reality. And here the "reality" the Quran claims, is nothing but lofty words.

    025 3/190a: "Behold, in the creation of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth, and the alternation of Night and Day, there are indeed Signs for men of understanding -". The Quran frequently disuses natural phenomena as claimed "signs"/proofs for Allah, etc. But for one thing they all are instinctively invalid, as any priest in any religion can say just the same about his/her god(s) - without proofs it just is cheap, valueless words. And for another they also are totally invalid logically, as long as Islam does not prove Allah really made the heaven and the Earth and the night and day. Even worse: Who needs to use bluffs and invalid arguments? - mainly the cheat and deceiver.

    026 3/191b: "Not for naught hast Thou (Allah*) created (all) this (everything*)!" Allah or some other god or nature. This just is one more of the many natural phenomena which Muhammad claimed for his god - like any believer in any religion can do for his/her god(s) as long as the claims for proofs can be evaded. Totally invalid as proof or indication for Allah, as long as it is not proved that it really was Allah who created it. And we remind you: "A proof is one or more proved facts, which can give only one conclusion" Also see 11/7a below.

    027 4/1b: “Reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you (people*) - - - “. Man was not created, according to science, but developed from earlier primates. Besides: Even if man had been created, Islam has never brought a proof for that he was created by a god (not by f.x. a devil), and neither for that the god in case was Allah.

    028 4/1c: “- - - created you from a single person - - -“. Man could not come from a single person, there had to be at least 2 – male and female. But even if there was a couple, that would be too little – the DNA variety would be too small for the “tribe” to be viable (any god had known this - then who made the Quran?). Man simply developed little by little – like the Quran – from earlier primates (as for the archaeological Eve and the archaeological Adam whom science talks about, and whom some Muslims disuse trying to “prove” something: See the chapter: “Some wrong arguments – and their answers” in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran".)

    029 4/133a: “If it were His (Allah’s*) Will, He could destroy you, O mankind, and create another race; for He hath power this to do”. Well, neither he nor Islam has been able to finish off mankind yet - though Islam and Muslims have done enormous destruction through the times. If Muslims will be able to finish off mankind in the future, it hardly will be because of Allah’s wish, but because of fanatics being more “Muslim” than Allah.

    030 4/133c: "- - - create another race - - -". You several places in the Quran meet the claim that Allah created or can create life, but there nowhere is proved anything (there 1 or 2 places are referred tales that he did, but nowhere firsthand witnesses), whereas if the old books - included the Quran - tell the truth on this point, Yahweh both created life (f.x. the bird from clay according to the Quran (though that is likely to be from an old legend)) and resurrected many times (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke, 7/15, Matt.27/52, Acts 9/40, Act 20/40, and Jesus himself). An interesting fact.

    031 5/17k: "He (Allah*) creatheth what he pleaseth". A most interesting claim, as Allah/Muhammad never proved any power to create things. Yahweh proved it if the old books tells the truth, but Allah? - nothing. Also see 2/22d above and 6/1e, 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c below.

    032 5/18e: "- - - the men He (Allah*) hath created - - -". See 5/17k above and 6/2b and 11/7a below.

    033 5/19n: "And Allah hath power over all things". Often claimed, never reliably proved - not once in 1400 years.

    034 6/1b: “Praise be to Allah, who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -.” Often claimed, never proved. This simply is one of the many claims in the Quran every believer in any religion can use on behalf of his god(s) free of charge, as long as he/she can evade all requests for proof. Words are that cheap. Also see 2/22d above and 21/56c below. Wrong unless Islam proves the opposite.

    035 6/1e: “Praise be to Allah, who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -.” And what does the Quran's universe look like? Scientific nonsense. In short (included Earth, the universe (see 51/47c) and living beings), according to the Quran the “everything” = this:

    High above everything - above the 7. heaven - resides Allah.

    Under him are the seven heavens – one on top of the other.

    The heavens are from something material - if not one could not fasten the stars to one of them.

    The heavens are held up by invisible pillars - if not they of course would fall down.

    The heavens contains Paradise - and better the higher a Heaven (= closer to Allah).

    The Paradise for normal good Muslims seems according to Hadiths to be in 1. heaven. It consists of 4 or 6 or more (exact number not clear) Gardens, one more luxurious than the other

    In between the heavens are the sun and the moon (the sun is not said, only indicated to be just here).

    Also the sun moves across the sky. (It in reality is the Earth that spins around.)

    The sun raises in the east from the Earth, and sets in a pool of dirty water on Earth in the west.

    The places for sunrise and sunset was found by Dhu'l Quarnayn = Alexander the Great.

    Under the sun and moon, and fastened to the lowest of the 7 heavens (37/6-7, 41/12), are all the stars. (The movements of the planets are not explained.)

    Stars also are used as shooting stars to chase away bad spirits and jinns spying on Heaven.

    Under the heavens and stars are clouds.

    The clouds Allah sometimes breaks to pieces (raindrops).

    Under the clouds the birds are kept aloof by only the will of Allah.

    Then there is our flat Earth.

    On the Earth mountains are set down - not grown up, but set down.

    The Earth is kept steady by the mountains.

    Without the steadying mountains Earth might start wobbling and tip around. (Today Islam points to earth-quakes, but that was not the original meaning, according to Muslim scholars of the old).

    On "our" Earth are rivers. Hadiths tell that 2 of them - the Nile and the Euphrates - start in Paradise.

    On Earth there further are highways - made by Allah.

    On the Earth also all kinds of beings live – created from clay or something or nothing.

    The first man was Adam - a single man - created in somewhere between 5 and 13 different ways*.

    Under our Earth (Hadith) there are more flat Earths – 7 all together.

    Islam has named for all the different Earths - and tells (in Hadiths) that the lower down, the more hellish life for the inhabitants.

    And at the bottom (Hadith) is Hell.

    Hell has seven gates, each leading to a separate part of Hell - one worse than the other.

    * Modern Islamic literature seems to indicate that the official point of view of Islam is that man really was created by clay or similar.

    Just like what your school and modern science tell you?

    (This is one of the really strong and easy to see proofs for that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no omniscient god makes mistakes, and absolutely not of this quantity, magnitude, and stupidity.)

    Actually it is not 100% correct to say that Muhammad told everything about the heavens according to the astronomy of that time. If we remember our Greek astronomy correctly, it was like this:

    1. The outer layer or ceiling: The stars.
    2. The 7. Heaven Saturn.
    3. The 6. Heaven Jupiter.
    4. The 5. heaven Mars.
    5. The 4. Heaven The Sun.
    6. The 3. Heaven Venus.
    7. The 2. Heaven Mercury.
    8. The 1. Heaven The Moon.

     

    The outer layer some "astronomers" reckoned to be the 8. heaven. We stress that you may find old "charts" with a somewhat different sequence of the heavenly bodies. But as far as we have found Islam is the only one with the stars fixed to this 1. Heaven.

    ###036 6/2a: “He (Allah*) it is Who created you - - -”. Contradicted by the Bible who says it was Yahweh who did it - and they may both be wrong according to science. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words, like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

    037 6/2b: “He (Allah*) is it who created you from clay - - -“. But how man was created, is complicated in the Quran; the one and first man - Adam - was made in no less than 13 different ways (or 5-6-7 if you say that some of them were different names for the same raw material). This even though one man cannot be created in more than one way. The Quran says he was made:

    From clay: 6/2 7/12 17/61 32/7 38/71 38/76.
    From sounding clay: 15/26 15/28 15/33.
    From ringing clay: 55/64
    From sticky clay: 37/11
    From essence of clay: 23/12
    From mud: 15/26 15/28 15/33.
    From dust: 3/59 22/5 35/11 40/67.
    From earth: 20/55
    From a clot of congealed blood: 96/2
    From semen:# 16/4 75/37 76/2 80/19.
    From nothing: 19/9 19/67.
    From water: 21/30 24/45 25/54.
    From base material: 70/39.

     

    One of these may be from the Bible, the other 12 not.

    #(It is not told where the semen came from).##

    ## Mostly when the book talks about semen, it is in connection with (making) children. But also children are not made from semen - it only is 50% of the truth. A child is made from semen + an egg cell, but an egg cell is so small, that Muhammad did not know about it - human eggs can hardly be seen in the blood and gore in a carcass or a slaughtered animal. Actually at the time of Muhammad one did not know how conception happened - one theory was that semen was a seed which grew when placed in a woman - though far from each time. Strangely this is how the Quran explains it. Any god had known better.

    Strictly speaking all the different ways of creating man/Adam, means that the Quran tells that man/Adam was created in 13 different ways, even if Adam was created only once (in reality he never was created and never existed – man developed from earlier primates). If one lump similar “creations” together, there still remains at least 5-7 different creations. Only one can even according to the Quran be right (as Adam was created only once even according to the Quran and to the Bible) - and the irony is that science long since has showed that all alternatives are wrong, as man like said evolved from a prehistoric primate.

    Some Muslims explain that Adam was created from a little clay, a little dust, a little earth, a little blood, a little semen, a little nothing and some water. But that is far from what the Quran tells - a corruption of the Quran - and even if it were the true story of the Quran, it is wrong. For one thing man does not consist of clay, etc., and for another he as mentioned was not created, but developed from prehistoric beings.

    Yes, we know about the Eve from archaeology who lived in East Africa some 160ooo - 200ooo years ago, and the corresponding Adam who lived in Asia some 60ooo - 70ooo (64ooo?) years ago, but that is something different).

    Contradicting even 3. form primary school knowledge. Actually this is scientific nonsense.

    ###038 6/2a: “He (Allah*) it is Who created you - - -”. Contradicted by the Bible who says it was Yahweh who did it - and they may both be wrong according to science. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. Or science wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

    ###039 6/2c: “He (Allah*) it is Who created you from clay - - -”. This is one of the many ways man (Adam) was created according to the Quran - even if Adam was created only once, according to that book. See 6/2b and 21/56c.

    040 6/14a: "- - - Allah, the maker of the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth - - -". One more of the many never documented claims. Keep your eyes open and your brain and knowledge engaged, and you will find many such ones in the Quran. Islam will have to prove them to be believed by us.

    041 6/36f: "- - - as to the dead, Allah will raise them up - - -". This is an interesting claim you meet several places in the Quran - interesting because Allah never proved neither that he could create unborn nor resurrect dead ones - often claimed, but never proved - whereas Yahweh proved it several times if the old books tell the truth about this (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/35-36, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt. 27/52, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10 - and the Quran 5/110a (remember here that the god of Jesus was Yahweh, in spite of Muhammad's never proved claims, and that according to science there existed no god like Allah, no book like the Quran, and no religion like Islam in the entire Roman Empire at the time of Jesus.)).

    042 6/73a: "It is He (Allah*) Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved. This just is one of the many claims in the Quran any believer can make free of charge on behalf of any god, as long as no proof has to be produced.

    043 6/79b: "- - - Him (here claimed to be Allah*) who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved. And a claim anyone can make on behalf of any god, as long as demands for proofs can be pooh-poohed. But remember: "Any claim without a proof, can be dismissed without a proof".

    044 6/94a: "- - - We (Allah*) created you - - -". Frequently claimed, never proved. Also see 2/22d above and 21/56c below.

    045 6/95b: "He (Allah*) causeth the living to issue from the dead - - -". This is an interesting claim, because there nowhere and at no time was proved that this is anything but cheap words; Allah never proved he could create life or resurrect the dead - many claims, no proofs - whereas if the Quran and/or the Bible tell the truth here, Yahweh has proved it many times. F.x. there are at least 8 resurrections + Jesus - 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35Mark 5/11 (+ Matt. 9/25, 8/55), John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10 + Jesus himself - of dead humans in NT (confirmation in the Quran in 3/49b, 5/110i).

    046 6/98a: “It is He (Allah*) Who hath produced you (man*) - - -". Often claimed, never proved - and as easily claimed on behalf their god(s) for believers of other religions - - - free of charge for them as well as for Muhammad as long as no proofs are required. Besides, if you take a look at how the Quran claims man was created (11/7a below), it does not leave the book much credibility.

    047 6/98b: “It is He (Allah*) Who hath produced you (man*) from a single person (Adam*) - - -”. According to science it takes two to make a baby. But that aside: Where is the proof for that any god - not to mention Allah - is involved at all? One thing is that Adam never existed – man developed from earlier primates according to science. Another thing is that 1 person – even 1 pair of persons – would give too little DNA-variety to make man as a viable race. One more invalid sign.

    ###048 6/101d: "He (Allah*) created all things - - -". A glorifying claim - but as normal for Muhammad never proved. Big words are easy to use when you do not have to prove them. We remind you that "claims without proofs can be dismissed without proofs" (this even more so as it is the one who makes a claim, who has the duty of proving it - not the others to disprove it like Muslims claim. Muslims has found the easy way here to dupe and trap the naive and the uneducated ones. Demand proofs from Muslims for what they claim before starting an argument. You will find they never are able to prove any of the central claims in Islam. Would you risk your money in a "Nigerian Bluff" or "Nigerian swindle"? - some naive ones do, and every single of them till this day has lost. More than a billion humans - many of whom would laugh at gambling their money on demands for blind belief - gamble their possible next life on demanded blind belief in a documented - even documented by Islam - unreliable and immoral man wrapped in glorious words, and in his never proved, but often clearly proved wrong, claims.

    Such is the reality about man's intelligence.

    049 6/102b: "- - - (Allah is*) the Creator of all things - - -". See 6/101e above and 21/56c below. Also contradicted by the Bible, which claims Yahweh was the creator. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. Or that science is wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

    050 6/122a: "Can he who was dead, to whom We (Allah*) gave life - - -". This interesting claim again: Allah never proved his power over life or death - or over anything else, or even his existence. Yahweh proved it many times if either the Quran or the Bible speaks the truth on this point. This makes one think.

    #051 6/136a: “Out of what Allah hath produced in abundance in tilth and in cattle - - -”. One more a lose statement about what Allah does, just hanging in the air for want of proof or documentation. ####As they have no proofs of any central claim, it is not strange that Islam glorifies blind belief without proofs, or tells that it is primitive not to be able to see from the texts in the Quran that it is from a god, in spite of all mistakes and invalid “signs” and “proofs” and lose statements - hallmarks of cheats and deceivers and manipulators of men - and as primitive to ask for proofs. Even though what really is primitive is to believe anything and everything without proofs - primitive and naïve. (In all other aspects of life, blind belief is the sure way to risk to be cheated).

    052 6/141b: “It is He (Allah’) Who produceth - - - tilth with produce of all kinds - - -”. Proofs? Documents? According to science this is done by nature, but like so often the Quran takes natural phenomena and claim Allah has made it (see 11/7a below) - just as cheaply as any other religion can use just the same cheap words and cheap, unproved claims for their god(s). Cheats and deceivers often use such methods. Was Muhammad a cheat and deceiver?

    Wrong unless Islam proves the opposite.

    053 7/10a: "It is We (Allah*) Who has placed you (people*) with authority on earth - - -". One of Muhammad's many, many cases where he without even trying to prove anything, claims natural phenomena as indication, proof, and glorification for his god - claims as invalid as when any pagan priest makes the same claims as easy and cheap for his god(s), as long as it is not proved that it really was Allah who made or caused the phenomena.

    054 7/12c: “Thou (Allah*) didst create - - - him (Adam*) from clay.” This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 which tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 which tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 which tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, which tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 which tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5,35/11, 40/67, which tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 which tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 which tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, which tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came before Adam), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 which tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 which tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2a and 6/2b.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 25 other verses. But minimum 10 contradictions. Not to mention the real contradiction: Man was not created - Adam never was, at least not like told in the Quran. Man developed from earlier primates.)

    ##055 7/29d:"- - - He (Allah*) created you - - -". There must be at least a hundred places in the Quran where Muhammad takes a natural phenomenon and claims it is Allah who is behind it. This for:

    1. Glorification of his god.
    2. Indication of his god's existence.
    3. "Sign" - which in "Quran-speak" indicates proof - for his god's existence.
    4. "Proof" for his god's existence.
    5. "Proof" for his god's power.
    6. A few times as proof for other gods' non-existence ("Allah makes the sun rise in the east, your god cannot make it rise in the west - your god does not exist".)
    7.  

      All this have one thing in common: They are utterly invalid words as long as it is not proved it really is Allah who makes those things happen - something the Quran never even tries to prove. Not once. It just is cheap, valueless words any priest and any believer in any religion freely can use free of charge on behalf of his/her god(s) as long as they can evade all requests for proving anything - like the Quran always does. Here it in addition is an extra curious point as the Quran "always" demands proofs from others (and thus proves that proofs are essential), but never proves anything - anything - of any consequence itself. (The same to a large degree goes for Islam and for Muslims today - twisted logic, lose claims and cheap words, often lots of them, but no valid proofs for any of the central questions. Not one of the central points - in reality claims only - is proved in Islam. Everything only builds on the words of Muhammad - a man even the Quran and the Hadiths prove to be a man of very doubtful moral - easy to see as soon as you omit the glorifying, cheap words, and look at the realities; what he demanded and did and permitted, what rules he introduced, etc.) Also see 21/56c below.

      056 7/32a: "- - - which He (Allah*) hath produced for His servants (people*) - - - for sustenance - - -". Allah has produced everything according to the Quran. Also see 7/29d above.

      057 7/54c: “- - - Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". See 7/29d above.

      058 7/54d: “- - - Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in six Days - - -.” Contradicting with:

      1. 41/9-12: Here Allah used 2 + 4 + 2 days = 8 days for the creation (Muslims claim that the two days for creating Earth is included in the 4 days. But the Quran is very clear: 2 days for creating Earth, then 4 days for creating what is on Earth, and finally 2 days for creating the 7 firmaments (wrong – there only is one, and even the way Muhammad thought it looked like, is an optical illusion). No doubt about what is written. (Some Muslims also try to tell that the Arab written word for day also may mean eon (the old Arab alphabet had no vowels and no the points modern Arab use to signify special letters - diacritical points - and when one adds vowels, etc. as one likes, a lot is possible.) But there is little doubt that the spoken word Muhammad used to his congregation was “day” – and none of the accepted good translators use any other word. Eons also make Allah and his capabilities a joke: 2/117: “When He (Allah*) decreed a matter, He said to it: ‘Be’ and it is” – should he use eons for this small job?) We also should remind you of the contradiction with reality: To create the universe (see 51/47c) has until now taken 13.7 billion years, and Earth 4.567 billion - - - which also means the firmament - the universe (see 51/47c) was created before Earth, even long before.

       

      You will meet Muslims claiming that "of course 6 days - or 8 days - are metaphorical. (The only possible - and very often used - way of explaining mistakes like this away.) But for one thing the Quran itself states that its texts shall be understood literally if nothing else is indicated (3/7, 6/114, 11/1, 19/97, 26/2, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/17, 54/32) which is not the case here, for another the book has very clear text each time it mention how long time the claimed creation took, and for a third: You bet that when Muhammad said 6-8 days, each and every of his followers understood 6 or 8 days.

      And not least: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts clearly say, is to falsify and corrupt the quranic texts. It also is to tell Allah that you are better than him to explain exactly what he meant/means.

      059 7/54h: "He (Allah*) created the sun, the moon, and the stars - - -". The Quran often claims Allah created everything, but it never proves anything of any essence - only lose words. Muhammad and many other believers in many religions make similar claims to the honor of their gods - easy words as long as one does not have to prove anything. This claim clearly is wrong unless Islam proves the opposite. (Also see 37/6c below.)

      Simply more natural phenomena claimed by Muhammad for his claimed god.

      060 7/54j: "Is it not His (Allah's*) to create - - -". See 11/7a above and 21/56c below.

      061 7/54l: "Is it not His (Allah's*) to create and to govern". A rhetoric question expecting a certain answer. But it is impossible to know as long as one does not have reliable information, and as long as it is not documented even that Allah exists, and if he in case is a major god. There only are Muhammad's never proved claims - a man of very doubtful reliability, even according to central Islamic literature is a doubtful and unreliable person (read the realities and omit the glorifying cheap words, and see what picture emerges of him).

      Also (we quote): "'Surely' (etc.*) and rhetorical questions - whenever you encounter these in a text, stop and think. The author usually wants you to skate over them as if the claim is so obvious as to be beyond doubt, or the answer self-evident. The opposite is often the case." (Graham Lawton.) Try to count such cases in the Quran - they are MANY. Especially the never proved claim "the Truth" and similar are very often used.

      ##062 7/54+58a: “- - - Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth - - - thus do We (Allah*) explain the Signs- - -". Nothing is explained as long as it is not proved that Allah really created it. Wrong unless Islam proves the opposite.

      ##063 7/54+58b: “- - - Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong) (in part of 6 days as also Earth was created in those 6 days*) - - - thus do We explain the Signs - - -”. A wonderful symbol “borrowed” from the nature and even so with no less than 2 serious mistakes - really a glorious proof for Allah. A nice “sign” and "explanation". Wrong unless Islam proves the opposite.

      *064 7/54+58c: “- - -Allah, Who created - - - the earth in (part of*) six days - - - thus do We explain the Signs - - -”. Nearly as beautiful a wrong proof of Allah as the one just above - creation of Earth took millions of years, and there is no trace of Allah or any other god neither in the sun, nor in the Earth. Oh, we know many religions included Islam are reluctant to admit it, but till date there is not one single valid proof for a god being involved. A nice “sign” and a nice "explanation". But invalid. Wrong unless Islam proves the opposite.

      065 7/54+58e: “He (Allah*) created the sun - - - thus do We explain the Signs - - -”. Proofs, please - if not we believe the sun is from nature. Wrong unless Islam proves the opposite. Also see 7/29b above.

      066 7/54+58g: “He (Allah*) created - - - the stars - - - thus do We explain the Signs - - -”. See the 2 just above. In this case even more so, as the stars are NOT fastened to a lowest heaven (37/6c, 37/6-7, 41/12), and are not identical to shooting stars like the Quran tells in another verse. Wrong unless Islam proves the opposite.

      067 7/57e: "- - - thus shall We (Allah*) rise up the dead - - -". Interesting claim, because neither Allah nor Muhammad has ever showed they have this power - Muhammad could not even help his own dying children (he lost all his children except Fatima, and she died shortly after him - was some god punishing him for something?) - there only are lofty words. Whereas if either the Bible or the Quran (f.x. 5/110a) tells the truth on this point, Jesus and Yahweh - and for that case even Elisha (1. Kings 17/22) and Paul (Acts 20/9-12) - proved so thoroughly, and thus showed they were closer to a god and thus greater prophets than Muhammad (if he at all was a prophet - no person unable to make prophesies is a prophet).

      068 7/69a: "Do ye (people*) wonder that there hath come to you a message from the Lord (Allah*) through a man of your own people - - -?" Muhammad is making - in the broad lines - an exact copy of his own situation, to show that his own situation is normal for prophets. There are several such cases in the Quran, making the "explanation" too obvious.

      069 7/158i: “- - - it is He (Allah*) that giveth - - - life - - -”. A very nice thing to claim credit for - and claims come easy if you never have to prove it. This claim is repeated frequently in the Quran, and it is an interesting one, because neither Allah nor Muhammad ever - not one single time - proved any power over death. Lots of killing and murder, but not one documented resurrection or creation of life. Whereas both the Quran (f.x. 5/110d) and the Bible tell that Yahweh and Jesus - and even Elisha, Paul, and Peter (but not Muhammad) - had the power to resurrect. (F.x. 1. Kings.17/22, 2. Kings.4/34-35, Matt. 9/25, Matt. 27/52, Luke 7/15, John 11/44, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10 - plus Jesus' resurrection).

      Science tells creation of life is done by nature, and the Quran's claim here thus is wrong unless Islam proves the opposite.

      070 7/181c: “- - - those We (Allah*) have created - - -". That Allah is a creator is often claimed, but never proved. It is an interesting claim because of the irony in the fact that if the old books speaks the truth, Yahweh several places in the Bible and at least one or two places in the Quran (f.x. 3/49b, 5/110i - remember that no religion like Islam and no god like Allah existed in Israel at the time of Jesus - the only monotheistic god there was Yahweh. This we know for sure from written history, and thus it is confirmed that Jesus' god was Yahweh) proved he at least had the power of resurrection, whereas Allah and Muhammad never proved anything like that - several claims, but never a proved case.

      071 7/185b: "- - - all that Allah hath created - - -". Strong claim, often repeated claim - never proved claim. See 7/29d above.

      072 7/189: “It is He (Allah*) who created you (man*) from a single person (Adam*) - - -“. Wrong. Adam never existed, as man developed from earlier primates. And even if it had started with Adam and Eve (her name is never mentioned in the Quran), the DNA pool had been too small to make the race viable.

      073 9/116e: "He (Allah*) giveth life and he taketh it". That Allah - actually his followers - does/do take lives is an all too well-known fact. But the claim that he also gives life is interesting, because this never is proved - often claimed, but never proved (whereas if the Bible or the Quran tells the truth on this point, Yahweh really has proved his power over also the death and thus to give life). Also see 7/158i above and 21/56c below.

      0074 10/3d: “- - - Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved - and also claimed by many other gods.

      075 10/3f: “- - - Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth in 6 days”. Even though the Bible say the same number of days, it is extremely wrong - - - and any god had known that. As bad: The Quran contradicts itself by saying 8 days one place. This even though the claimed lack of contradictions in the Quran, Islam claims is a proof for that Allah made the book. (Consequently the presence of mistakes proves that Allah did not make the book).

      1. 41/9-12: Here Allah used 2 + 4 + 2 days = 8 days for the creation (Muslims claims that the two days for creating Earth is included in the 4 days. But the Quran is very clear: 2 days for creating Earth, then 4 days for creating what is on Earth, and finally 2 days for creating the 7 firmaments (wrong – there only is one, and even that one is an optical illusion except the stars). No doubt about what is written. (Some Muslims also try to tell that the Arab written word for day also may mean eon (the old Arab alphabet had no vowels or the points modern Arab use to signify some letters, and when one adds vowels, etc. as one likes, a lot is possible.) But there is little doubt that the spoken word Muhammad used to his congregation was “day” – and none of the accepted good translators uses any other word. Eons also makes Allah and his capabilities to a joke: 2/117: “When He (Allah*) decreeth a matter, He said to it: ‘Be’ and it is” – should he use eons for this small job?) We also should remind you that this verse contradicts reality quite a lot: Creation of the universe (see 51/47c) has till now taken 13.7 billion years, and of Earth 4.567 billion - and both processes are still continuing.

       

      And not to forget: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts clearly say, is to falsify and corrupt the quranic texts. It also is to tell Allah that you are better than him to explain exactly what he meant/means.

      076 10/4d: "It is He (Allah*) who beginneth the process of Creation - - -". Frequently claimed in the Quran, but Muhammad never was able to show that Allah could create anything at all, not once. There only are words and claims. Also see 21/56c below.

      077 10/4f: "- - - and (Allah*) repeateth it (resurrects*) - - -". See 7/158i above.

      *078 10/5a: “It is He (Allah*) who made the sun - - -". The Quran often claims that Allah created this and that - but it never proves anything. Claims are cheap and easy and can be made by anyone. (The Quran sometimes claims it proves this and that, but without exception those "proofs" are invalid "a proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion", and the Quran's "proofs" never satisfy these minimum conditions.)

      079 10/5d: “It is He (Allah*) who made - - - the moon to be a light (of beauty) - - - (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand”. In this case "those who understand" understand that it is the sun that makes the moon shine (beautifully or not), as the moon is no light (it only reflects sunlight). If Allah - or any god - is involved, it has never been proved. But it is a nice thing for any priest of any religion to claim responsibility for on behalf of his religion, of course. That is to say: As long as you do not have to prove it. Muhammad also knew the value of flattery. Also beware of another thing here: You will meet the claim that the Quran one or two places tell the moon shine with reflected light. But not one single place in the entire Quran will you find an Arab word that means "reflected" or something similar. The claim simply is an "al-Taqiyya"- a lawful lie - to defend the religion and claim that it knew that moonlight was reflected sunshine. An easy bluff as most people does not know enough Arab to see that it is a bluff. That Muhammad perhaps used different words for describing the sun and the moon, does not mean the Quran knew what was the difference, only that it was easy to see for anyone that there was a difference.

      080 10/5e: "- - - Allah (did*) create this (everything*) - - -". Allah? Or someone else? Or nature? - another easy claim which never is proved.

      081 10/6f: “- - - in the (creation or existence of*) the earth - - - are Signs for those who fear Him.” Even when it comes to a thing as close as Earth, Muhammad - and Islam - were and are unable to produce any proofs - only big, cheap claims.

      082 10/34b: "Say (Muhammad*): 'Of your (non-Muslims'*) "partners" (gods*), can any originate creation and repeat it?' Say:’ It is Allah Who originates creation and repeats it - - -." This is a kind of debate you meet all too often from Islam and Muslims: You have to prove everything - for them lose and never proved claims are enough - for themselves proofs are not necessary. But: Demand proofs from them when they just claim or states out of the air. Also see 7/38e and 10/31b above.

      083 10/34c: “Say: ‘It is Allah Who originates creation and repeats it - - -’”. That is very easy to say - why not for once try to prove it is Allah and not nature? It costs nothing to just say something - words are that cheap. Any priest in any religion can say just the same about his god(s) - just as cheaply. Also see 10/31b above.

      084 10/56a: "It is He (Allah*) who giveth life - - -". A claim frequently repeated in the Quran, but never with the slightest proof. Reality or a bluff? (But if the Quran or/and the Bible tell(s) the truth on this point, Yahweh/Jesus did prove they had power over death, and thus ability to give life). Also see 7/158i above and 21/56c below.

      Actually this claim is pretty interesting, as the Quran nowhere proves that Allah is able neither to give original life, nor to resurrect dead ones, whereas if the old books tells the truth, Yahweh has proved at least his power of resurrection.

      085 10/67b: "- - - made you (humans*) Night that ye may rest therein - - -". The night simply is an effect of that Earth is spinning in sunshine, and not something made for that humans shall have a rest. It really is the other way around: Humans - and animals - have adjusted their lives to the fact that there are nights, and adjusted their activity accordingly. Muhammad here simply has the cause/effect 180 degrees wrong.

      086 11/7b: "He (Allah*) it is who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in six days". It is said 6 days several places in the Quran, but:

      1. 41/9-12: Here Allah used 2 + 4 + 2 days = 8 days for the creation (Muslims claim that the two days for creating Earth is included in the 4 days. But the Quran is very clear: 2 days for creating Earth, then 4 days for creating what is on Earth, and finally 2 days for creating the 7 firmaments (wrong – there only is one, and even that is an optical illusion except for the stars, etc.). No doubt about what is written. (Some Muslims also tries to tell that the Arab written word for day also may mean eon (the old Arab alphabet had no vowels or the points modern Arab use to signify special letters, and when one adds vowels, etc. as one likes, a lot different meanings are possible many places in the Quran.) But there is little doubt that the spoken word Muhammad used to his congregation was “day” – and none of the accepted good translators use any other word. Eons also makes Allah and his capabilities to a joke: 2/117: “When He (Allah*) decreeth a matter, He said to it: ‘Be’ and it is” – should he use eons for this small job?) We also should remind you that this verse contradicts reality quite a lot: Creation of the universe (see 51/47c) has till now taken 13.7 billion years, and of Earth 4.567 billion - both processes are still continuing.

       

      Once more: It took a lot of more time. And any god knows that - but Muhammad did not. Who made the Quran? Also see the Mega Mistakes in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran".

      087 11/7h: "Ye (humans*) shall indeed be raised up after death". An interesting claim as Muhammad and his god never really proved they had such power (it is mentioned one place quoting a legend), whereas if the old books tell the truth on this, Yahweh proved such power several times.

      088 11/20b: "- - - (His (Allah's*) design) on earth - - -". Only fantasy unless Allah exists and is a being with supernatural powers - good or bad.

      089 11/51c: "- - - Him (Allah*) who created me - - -". See 21/56c below.

      090 11/61e: "- - - it is He (Allah*) Who hath produced you from the earth." This is one of the may be 13 different ways man - Adam - is created according to the Quran. See chapter about the creation of man in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" - http://www.1000mistakes.com . Even if you are a creationist, Adam could not be created in more than one way, and evolutionists believe all the 13 ways the Quran claims he was created, are wrong, as man was not created, but developed from earlier primates. Even in modern Islamic litterateur you find that man was created, most often from clay.

      091 12/101b: "- - - Thou (Allah*) Creator of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth!". Often claimed, never proved - and even wrongly described.

      ##092 13/2a: “Allah is He Who raised the heavens (plural and wrong*) - - -". Often claimed, never proved.

      093 13/2aa: “Allah is He Who raised the heavens (plural and wrong*) - - -". Wrong. Neither Heaven nor Heavens were ever raised.

      094 13/16i: "- - - as He (Allah*) has created - - -". The irony here is that there only are words and claims for that Allah created anything at all - not as much as the creation of the tip of a comma is proved. Also see 6/2b and 11/7a above and 21/56c below.

      095 13/16j: "Allah is the Creator of all things - - -". The only things which till now are proved Allah has created, are lots of words - many of them wrong - lots of war and a partly horribly immoral moral code, etc. Well, it is wrong to say it is proved to be Allah's work - it only is proved to come from Muhammad (and actually they are not even proved from him, as there also exists no real proof for that Muhammad has existed. You will find scientists who believe he is a fiction made up to be a central figure in a then new war religion). Also see 6/2b and 11/7a above and 21/56c below.

      096 14/10c: "- - - Allah, the Creator of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says this was done by Yahweh, not by Allah. (And by a number of other religions - it is one of those claims anybody can use free of charge on behalf of their god(s) as long as no proof is required.) Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. Or science wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

      097 14/19a: "Seest thou not that Allah created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". A rhetoric question, but no, in this case we only see a never proved claim in a book so full of mistakes, that it is not from a god. Such a not documented claim in such a book, has no value.

      We add a quote: "'Surely' (etc.*) and rhetorical questions - whenever you encounter these in a text, stop and think. The author usually wants you to skate over them as if the claim is so obvious as to be beyond doubt, or the answer self-evident. The opposite is often the case." (Graham Lawton.) Try to count such cases in the Quran - they are MANY. Especially the never proved claim "the Truth" and similar are very often used.

      098 14/19c: “- - - Allah created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in Truth - - -”. (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.) It is impossible to know if it is true, as long as the Quran only offers words and not a single proof. Words are very cheap - especially when it is clear that there are MANY mistakes etc. in the book, and that the book is quoted only from a man with a very doubtful point of view concerning the use of dishonesty as working tools. Also: This claim is strongly negated by science. Also see 11/7a above.

      099 14/19e: “If He (Allah*) so will, He can remove you (man*) and put (in your place) a new Creation”. At least he never did so - able to or not.

      100 14/32a: "It is Allah Who hath created the heavens (plural and wrong*) the earth - - -". See 11/7a above.

      101 15/19a: “And the earth We (Allah*) have spread out (like a carpet); - - -”. In the Quran the Earth is flat - which is wrong. Just ask any god. (Actually it is not directly said in the Quran that it was flat - this was too obvious for Muhammad even to mention. But all things it is compared to, are flat. And in Hadiths it is told that the 7 Earths are placed one on top of the other.)

      *102 15/19b: “- - - set thereon (on the Earth*) mountains firm and immovable - - -.” But no mountain was ever set down – not to mention from somewhere above. They without exception did grow up, no matter whether they grew up because of volcanism or because of tectonic activity (the only two ways mountains are made). Any god had known – but Muhammad not.

      103 15/23a: "And, verily (it definitely is no proved verity/truth*), it is We (Allah*) who give life, and We Who give death - - -". That Allah can give death, Islam and all its raids, wars, pogroms, mass murder, terrorism, etc. have given solid proofs for. At least 100 million killed/murdered through the times, and counting. But as for giving life, this is something the Quran many times claims, but which neither Muhammad, the Quran, Muslims, Islam, nor even Allah himself ever has produced on single unmistakable proof for - only miles of lose words and as lose claims. (Whereas Yahweh/Jesus produced plenty of proof if either the Quran or the Bible tells the truth on this point). Also see 21/56c below.

      104 15/26a: “We (Allah*) created - - -". Every so often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere - one of those easy claims anyone can use free of charge, as long as no proof is necessary.

      105 15/26b: “We (Allah*) created man from sounding clay - - -.” But: This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 55/64 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5,35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses. But minimum 15 contradictions.)

      106 15/26c: “We (Allah*) created man - - - from mud molded into shape - - -.” But:

      This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5,35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2b in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses. But minimum 11 contradictions.)

      107 15/27a: “And the Jinn race, We (Allah*) had created before - - -". According to this, the jinns were created before man. Jinns are a typical Arabism - something special for Arabia and its surroundings (you f.x. may find djinnies in Jewish folklore and fairy tales - but not in the Bible). They have a not small, but very unclear share of the supernatural part Islam's world, together with spirits, etc.

      108 15/28c: “I (Allah*) am about to create man, from - - -". It is somewhat thought provoking that an omnipotent god needed anything at all to create man from - this even more so as his raw material was rather primitive and inorganic anyhow. After all the Quran at least two places states that Allah can only say "Be", and it is.

      109 15/85b: "We created not the heavens (plural and wrong*), the earth, and all that is between them, but for just ends". As for the creation this is contradicted by the Bible, which tells that this was done by Yahweh, not by Allah (and perhaps both are wrong on this point. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. Or science wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

      110 15/86a: “For verily it is thy Lord (Allah*) who is the Master-Creator - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. Similar is often claimed in the Quran. But till now there is not proved Allah has created even the left hind foot of a fly. Words are cheap and can be used by anybody - proofs are more reliable (also according to the Quran).

      111 16/3a: "He (Allah*) has created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved.

      112 16/4a: “He (Allah*) has created man (the word “man” used like this, means the human race = in this case Adam*) from a sperm-drop - - -”. Wrong. Even if it should really mean not Adam, but men generally speaking, it is wrong. A sperm-drop is just half the explanation - also an egg cell is necessary. But Muhammad did not know that. (Human egg cells are too small to be seen with only eyes when it is lying in human tissue, blood and gore). But any god had known. Also see 6/2.

      And not to forget: From where did the sperm drop before Adam come from?

      113 16/8a: “And (He (Allah*) has created horses, mules, and donkeys - - - “. See 11/7a and 16/5 above. According to science this is done by nature. Thus the Quran here is wrong unless Islam proves it is right.

      114 16/8b: "- - - He (Allah*) has created (other) things of which ye (humans*) have no knowledge". If you read the Quran, you will see Muhammad claims Allah has created absolutely everything - nothing is f.x. a result of natural processes. But in the entire book you will find not one proof for all those claims - and you will find no claims for Allah's creation of things unknown to Muhammad. And not one thing which would exist once in the future, and thus indicate or prove something supernatural. Why?

      *115 16/15a: “And He (Allah*) has set upon the earth mountains - - -". Allah or nature?

      116 16/17b: "Is then He Who creates like one that creates not?" No, and that is why it is thought-provoking that Muhammad and Allah never was able to prove even the creation of a comma, whereas if the old books tells the truth on that point, Yahweh proved not a little.

      117 16/17c: "Is then He (claimed Allah*) Who creates like one that creates not?" No - not if he really creates, whereas the others really do not. But as the whole of this claim only rests on a book full of mistaken facts, etc., dictated by a man of very doubtful moral and reliability, no rational and intelligent person can believe in it without documentation - and all we have seen are strong claims built on nothing and as strong demands for and idolizing of blind belief, the most sure way of being cheated in all other aspects of life.

      118 16/20c: "Those (other gods*) whom they (non-Muslims*) invoke besides Allah create nothing and are themselves created". The recurring question: Did Allah create or is he created? The facts that not one ounce of the central claims is proved and also the quality of the Quran, are ominous signs.

      119 16/38g: “- - - (resurrection is*) a promise (binding) on Him (Allah*) - - -". And so what if he is unable to - he has proved not the least power for neither creation nor resurrection, lots of words and claims, but not one proved proof. Never and no place.

      120 16/39b: "(They (non-Muslims*) must be raised up (at the Day of Doom*)), in order that He (Allah*) - - -". But Allah has never proved he has neither the power of creation nor of recreation - only lose words.

      ##121 16/40: "- - - to anything which We (Allah*) willed, We but could say the Word 'Be' and it is." Allah can predestine or create anything just by saying it - and by the way: ######He also just could say: "Be a son", and Jesus was (no female necessary).

      122 16/48b: “- - - Allah’s creations, (even) among (inanimate) things - how their very shadows turn round, from right to left - - -“. Where is the brain of the shadow (= lack of sunlight) which makes it possible for it to decide to turn around? Besides it is all wrong: This is not a general law – it only is true on the northern hemisphere. On the southern it is from left to right – and Islam pretends to be a universal religion. Even a mentally retarded god had known this – but Muhammad of course not. Who made the Quran?

      123 16/70a: "It is Allah who creates you (human*) - - -". See 11/7a above.

      124 16/81a: “It is Allah Who made - - -". Allah has made everything according to Muhammad. But see 11/7a above - this one is similar.

      125 17/49c: "What! When we (humans*) are reduced to bones and dust, should we really be raised up (to be) a new creation?". It is said that the old Arabs did not value the next life much, but at least they knew it existed in many religions - it was no surprise to them. But Islam claims that Allah picks up all the atoms and juices of your rot and nullified body, and puts it all back to recreate you - though as a young person (nothing is said about fixing the body of handicapped or the mind of mentally retarded), and that was a bit much for the non-believers to believe. We must admit we find it somewhat unbelievably, too - but for another reason: Why! - why recreate the body, when a soul free from cumbersome bones and meat are much freer? - and when mental and intellectual pleasures and experiences are much more fulfilling than bodily ones? May the reason be that in a primitive culture(?) like in the old Arabia, the bodily pleasures were the only ones rough warriors really knew and were able to picture? - and to experience bodily pleasures one needed bodies. Is the explanation for bodily recreation simply that Muhammad needed "carrots" his primitive and self centered (f.x. unable to feel empathy with their victims or with women they raped) rough bunches of warriors were able to visualize?

      126 17/50-51: "- - - be ye (non-Muslims*) stones or iron, or (the*) created matter which, in your minds is (the*) hardest (to be raised up (as a human being*) - yet ye shall be raised up!". Muhammad is boasting that no matter how difficult, you will be to resurrect - Allah is able to do so. Words never proved - but then not proved words are cheap.

      127 17/51c: "He Who created you first!" Here it is indicated Allah, but as the Quran is not from a god - too many mistakes, etc. - this claim is unreliable, especially as even the existence of Allah is unclear. There is nowhere any valid proof for that he exists. There also is no valid proof for that he is able neither to create nor to resurrect - Islam will have to provide valid proofs instead of only claims to be believed. Also see 7/158i above and 21/56c below.

      128 17/61c: “- - - one (Adam*) whom Thou (Allah*) didst create from clay.” Wrong simply and plainly: One thing is that man was not created, but developed from earlier primates. But even if one is creationist, Adam could not be created in more than one way, and in the Quran you find no less the 13 different ways - or 5 - 7 if you lump some of them together. Solid contradictions. This claim also is contradicted by 6/2b (see this one), 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tell man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5,35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tells man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”: “But does not man call to mind that We (Allah*) created him out of nothing?” This contradicts all the other places in the Quran where it is told about the creation of man, and that tell that man/Adam was created out of some material or other, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing.

      129 17/70c: "- - - Our (Allah*) Creation". See 6/2b, 7/158i, 11/7b above and 21/56c below.

      130 17/99a: "See they (non-Muslims*) not that Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth, has power to create the like of them (anew)?". Impossible to see as long as it is not proved that Allah really created the heavens and the earth - and especially when you see lots of errors in the teaching's "facts" in addition. There also may be difference between creating dead material and living beings.

      131 17/99e: "- - - (Allah*) has the power to create the like of them (people*) (anew) - - -". Often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere. See 6/2b, 11/7a above and 21/56c below.

      132 18/37a: “- - - Him (Allah*) Who created you out of dust - - -”. Wrong - man was not created out of dust. See 6/2b above. And even if it had been right: Who in reality did it? - there is no proof for that Allah did anything at all, let alone created anything. Yes, not even for his very existence.

      *133 18/37b: “- - - Him (Allah*) Who created you out of dust, then out of a sperm-drop - - -”. Even sperm drop is just half true. Humans are not made out of a drop of sperm - though the Quran says so repeatedly. Humans - and animals - are made out of sperm + an egg cell. Arabs knew a lot about fetuses (from slaughtering of animals), but an egg cell is so small, that one does not notice it - hardly possible to see in all the blood and intestines and gore, etc. - so the Quran tells the semen is “planted” like a seed in a woman and grows to a being. Muhammad did not know better, as that was an accepted theory at his time – Greek and/or Persian “knowledge” originally - but an omniscient god had known better - - - so who made the Quran?

      134 18/48b: "- - - We (Allah*) created you (humans') - - -". See 6/2b and 11/7a above, and 21/56c below.

      135 18/51a: "- - - (Allah's*) creation of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". The Quran's talk about creation always is a little interesting, because Allah never was able to prove the power of neither creating nor recreating even a virus, whereas Yahweh several times has showed he has the power at least of recreation - if the old books tell the truth about this. Also see 11/7a above.

      136 19/67b: “But does not man call to mind that We (Allah*) created him out of nothing?” This contradicts all the other places in the Quran where it is told about the creation of man, and that tell that man/Adam was created out of some material or other.

      This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tells man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tells man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapter about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 29 other verses. But minimum 15 contradictions.)

      137 20/55c "From it (earth) shall We (Allah*) bring you out once again". This interesting claim once more. Interesting because Allah never has proved his power over death - yes, he has not proved any kind of power at all, and not even his own existence - Muhammad had lots of big words about his god, but he never was able to prove a even single comma (like many other self-proclaimed "prophets" through the centuries). Whereas if the old books tell the truth, Yahweh, Jesus, and even f.x. Paul really proved it (f.x. Matt. 27/52, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, not to mention the resurrection of Jesus himself, f.x. Matt.28/6.) Also see 7/158i above.

      138 20/55d: "From it (earth) shall We (Allah*) bring you out once again". Contradicted by the Bible. This says this will be done by Yahweh, not by Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

      139 20/61c: "- - - lest He (here indicated Allah*) destroy you - - -". Well, Allah has not proved the power of destroying anything at all in all the time since Moses and his Pharaoh Ramses II and till now. Lots of claims, but no proved case (guess if Muslims had told about it if such a case had existed!)

      140 20/72c: "- - - Him (here indicated Allah*) who created us (the magicians of Ramses II*) - - -". See 6/2b above and 21/56c below.

      141 21/16a: "Not for idle sport did We (Allah*) create the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth - - -". Parallel to 11/7a above. Also see 21/56c.

      142 21/21: "- - - who can raise (the dead)." This verse implicates that no-one but Allah can resurrect the dead. The interesting thing here is that Muhammad never was able to prove this - or anything else about Allah. There only are the claims of a not very reliable man believing in the use of al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc., breaking ones words - even ones oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah can cheat, cheating is ok - but how much cheating is it then in the Quran? - by Allah or by Muhammad), and believing in the use of deceit ("War is deceit" - and everything outside Islam is "the land of war"). (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.) Yahweh on the other hand proved it many times if the old books tell the truth - only in NT there are at least six cases of resurrection of dead persons, one of them (Matt.27/52) tells about several who were resurrected. Food for thoughts? Also see 7/158i above.

      ##143 21/30a: “Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth were joined together (as one unit of Creation), before We (Allah*) clove them asunder?” Heaven like we see it, is an optical illusion - a fact that is well known today, but Muhammad did not know it - and an illusion cannot be “cloven asunder” from a material thing (like Earth). We also have met Muslims saying that the theory of the Big Bang proves the Quran. But the Big Bang “clove something asunder” 13.7 billion years ago, whereas our sun (Helios or Sun*) is a 3. generation star, and it and the planets included Earth are just 4.6 billion years old (the latest numbers actually are 4.567 billion years). The differences in age, and far more the fact that our sun is 3. generation, (which means that the stuff the earth - and at least partly the sun – is made from, has been through two cycles of being fluid and mixed parts of (former) suns that became super novas (exploding stars) and were spread over large parts of cosmos, where it mixed with remnants of other exploded super novas and with gas, and at last coalesce to make a new sun and planets), makes the Big Bang totally irrelevant in this connection – for all the first 9 billion years the Earth and the sun and the planets just were scattered atoms, molecules and fragments in a celestial “mixer” – not an Earth, etc. that could be identified and could “be joined together” or “cloven asunder” with the sky. At least the professors at Al-Azhar University know this, because these are very well known facts, and it is dishonesty to try to cheat people by using this “argument” in f.x. “The Message of the Quran” - a book pretending to give, as seen from the Muslim point of view, correct information on and explanations of the Quran, certified by one of the highest authorities on the Quran in the Muslim world, the above-mentioned university.

      Conclusions: According to the Quran Allah created a quantity of something like smoke, ordered the smoke to “come together”, and afterwards split that mass in 2 – the Earth (actually 7 Earths) in one part, and the heaven as we see it (but actually 7 material heavens according to the Quran - and to Islam) in the other part. It should be unnecessary to mention that this has no similarity to what really happened. The Big Bang spread gas – nearly only hydrogen (H), but with a little helium (He) and perhaps traces of lithium (Li), all in ionized and thus opaque form – and absolutely no smoke, because even micro particles did not exist yet - over vast realms. After some 300ooo – 380ooo years the gas had cooled enough to be able to combine to molecules (mainly H2) which could condense to stars. The first stars tended strongly to be super giants because the gas in space was by far more tightly packed than today, and it thus was easier to mop enough up to make big stars. In the stars H2 was transformed to different atoms up to and included iron, by means of atomic reactions which release the energy stars “live” from.

      But in super giants these reactions runs fast because of very high temperature and pressure. Already after some 10 million years – or more if they were smaller - they explode in super-novas. In the extreme conditions of those explosions the heavier stuff is created – and spewed out into the universe (see 51/47c). There it became parts of the gas clouds which over eons condensed to new stars. The average size now was smaller, for natural reasons – the gas clouds were less dense. Because of somewhat smaller average size, the average “life” was somewhat longer. But even so a large percentage also of this 2. generation stars were big enough to go supernova sooner or later (often still pretty fast) – and then a new circle started. Gas clouds – which now contained a small percentage of other matter than H2 and He – condensed once more to new stars.

      And here finally our star – Helios or Sun – fits in. Our sun is a 3. generation star – and because of that there were enough heavy material to make "rock planets" like the Earth.

      But heaven and Earth never was smoke. The stars and the sun never made up one mass with a recognizable Earth (another fact that made that impossible: Earth was made 9.1 billion years and trillions of stars later than the start of the universe (see 51/47c)). Not to mention that a recognizable Earth and heaven/stars/etc never were one mass which was split apart leaving the Earth like we know it ready for life and living beings.

      The Quran and Muhammad could hardly have been more wrong even if they really had tried to. (Also see 37/6c below)

      144 21/30e: "We (Allah*) made from water (NB: “from water”, not “in water”*) every living thing.” There does not exist one single living thing which is created from water or made from water. There are beings which are some 98% water, but that is maximum. The normal may vary around 70%, but the margins are wide. Besides: This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapter about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses. And here minimum 28 contradictions.)

      *145 21/30f: “We (Allah*) made from water every living thing.” Wrong - the living things were not made from water. Some Muslims say modern science proves the Quran here, as science tells life started in water. But life just started in water, it was not made from water - there is a huge distinction there. The really bad thing here, though, is that this incorrect information also is told by well educated Muslims – f.x. it is thoroughly explained in comment 21/38 to verse 21/30 in “The Meaning of the Quran” – by Muslims that have so much education and knowledge that they know very well the difference between to be made in water and be made from water. How reliable is then other things they claim or “explain”? See also 6/2. We may add that this is the only place in the Quran where – possibly – also the “creation” of plants is included, this in spite of that plants are the basis for all animal and human life.

      146 21/31b: “And We (Allah*) have set on the earth mountains - - -”. The mountains are not “set on” the Earth - they have without exception “grown up”, no matter whether they are a result of tectonic or volcanic activity (the only 2 ways to make mountains). Any god knew this, but Muhammad not. Does this indicate who the real composer of the Quran is?

      We may add that we are informed that the actual verb which is used in the original Arab text, do not really mean “set down” but “dropped down” and is the same verb that is used when one f.x. is dropping an anchor. Mountains definitely are not dropped down. Also see 31/10b and 41/9-12.

      *147 21/31c: “And We (Allah*) have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them - - -”. Experts on Islam and the Quran say this refers to that the disk which is the Earth (in the Quran the Earth is flat, but perhaps a round disk) might shake and become unstable, and because of this may slip away or tip around and drop everything - included humanity - off the Earth.

      We refer to some Muslim scholars: Jalalan, (p. 437), Baydawi (p. 686), Tabari (p.589), and Zamakhshari (part 4, p. 381): They all tell that “if it was not for these unshakable (!!*) mountains, the earth would slip away.”(!!!*)

      ###*And Jalalan, Baydawi, and Zamakhshari all say that “- - - He (Allah*) placed unshakable mountains (not more so than that they shake during earthquakes*) on Earth lest it tilts with people.” This obviously is what the Quran really meant, and this even more obviously was the meaning Muhammad told his followers, as it is what the learned Muslim scholars were sure was the truth.

      But this “truth” is so ridiculous, that let us go on to the alternative explanation – the one that is in vogue in Islam now that they know the original “truth” was wrong: That the mountains hinder earth-quakes.

      That is not correct. Well, it is so far from the truth, that it is not even wrong - it is sometimes the opposite of the truth:

      1. According to f.x. heavyweights like “New Scientist” and “Nature”, mountains sometimes can CAUSE earthquakes because of their considerable weight and pressure on the underground. Yes, even variations in the amount of water (= weight) in big mountain lakes or glaciers sometimes causes minor and medium earthquakes. The same goes for heavy snow-falls in the mountains sometimes – snow in the mountains and rain lower down is a normal phenomenon = imbalance in weight. (There f.x. are more earthquakes in the north in winter than in summer).
      2. *It is well known today that mountains are made because of tectonic activity (this always causes earthquakes - though sometimes too feeble for human so feel) or volcanic activity which often causes earthquakes. This means that mountains in reality are made by earthquakes (or actually by the same mechanisms which make most earthquakes), it does not hinder such quakes. Any god had known this, but Muhammad not - this is new knowledge to humans. Then who composed the Quran?
      3. Also volcanism is closely connected to earth quakes. Volcanism also in many cases is connected to tectonic activity - there thus are connections between the two mechanisms for mountain building - and for earthquakes. Tectonic activity makes it easier for lava to break through to the surface around the rims of the tectonic plates - as seen f.x. in "the Ring of Fire" around the Pacific.

       

      Also see 15/19 – 16/15 – 31/10b – 41/10

      *148 21/31d: “- - - and We (Allah) have made therein (in the mountains*) broad highways (between the mountains) - - -”. We honestly did not know Allah - or any other god - built highways. And here we could make a cheap joke (tell your congress-men (or similar) to ask Allah build your roads, instead of spending all that tax money on it). But we refrain from it.

      Well, it would be possible for Muhammad to say - true or not true - that Allah showed the first travelers where to travel. But in no case Allah built the roads - or highways. Unless Islam really proves he did - but Islam never proves, they only tell or state or claim, even though they demand proofs from everyone else. Or they say it is said so in the Quran, and that proves it. But a book with that many mistakes has little value as a proof - and besides it is logically impossible to use the Quran to prove the Quran, as circular proofs are without value.

      *149 21/31e: “- - - and We (Allah) have made therein (in the mountains*) broad highways (between the mountains) - - -”. This is so ridiculous that we do not remind you that Allah cannot do such things unless he exists and is something supernatural.

      150 21/32a: “And We (Allah*) have made the heavens (plural and wrong*) as a canopy - - -”. Wrong. The heaven as we see it, is not made as a canopy, yes, it is not even a canopy, but a mirage - it is not even material. The heaven as we see it, is just an illusion made from bending of light by day, and from our inability to see the correct 3 dimensions at those distances by night.

      151 21/33a: "It is He (Allah*) who created - - -". Again this interesting claim - interesting because neither Allah nor Muhammad ever was able to prove anything about Allah's power to create or resurrect, whereas Yahweh several times proved he at least had power for resurrection, if the old books tell the truth. Actually the Quran tells he/ (via Jesus) also had the power to create a living bird from clay.

      152 21/33b: "It is He (Allah*) who created Night and Day". This is one of the many natural phenomena Muhammad simply claims for his god - in just the same way as other believers claimed it for their god(s), and just as cheap. It had been a nice proof for Allah - - - if Muhammad first had proved Allah really causes it.

      ##153 21/33c: “- - - (Allah created*) all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.” Wrong. There only is one celestial body that has a round course, and then only compared to Earth: The moon – Luna. And if you compare it to the sun, its course is not really round any more, but a kind of wavy, and even more so if you compare it to the galaxy. The sun also has no rounded course, even if you compare it to the galaxy – it follows a kind of a bent sinus curve above and below the equator plane of the galaxy around its center. The same go for very many of the stars we see – no circle, but bent sinus. Earth's course of course follows, but is more complicated because of its circling the sun at the same time - 107200 km/h around the Sun which moves at 800ooo km/h around the center of our galaxy. And our galaxy moves in the Local Group of galaxies (a few dozen galaxies) direction Andromeda with a speed of 470ooo km/h, and our Local Group and many others are on a somewhat linear way towards something called “the Great Attractor” which nobody knows what is with a speed of 2200ooo km/h. So we are waltzing around the Sun while it at the same time is circling in our Galaxy in a wavy way, tumbling around in our Local Group, which is wandering in and part of a larger group of a thousand or more galaxies speeding towards The Great Attractor. You do not find round courses in space, unless you cherry-pick part movements – and all courses we can see without telescopes have a somewhat linear main direction because of this movement in the direction of “The Great Attractor”, but irregular because of local circling or similar - and waving.

      The course of the planets are round, you say? - yes, but only compared to the sun. Add the sun's course in the galaxy, the galaxy's course towards Andromeda, both's course in the galaxy cluster, the cluster's course in the super cluster, and the super cluster's course towards the mystical "Great Attractor", and you are very far from a circle course.

      154 21/56c: “- - - He (Allah*) Who created them (man*) - - -". This is a very interesting claim - interesting because similar claims and statements frequently are repeated in the Quran, but never the slightest proof for that it may be true - only the word of a man who according to Islam and its books believed in using lies (al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie - Kitman - the lawful half-truth - not only can, but ought to be used "if necessary" to defend or promote Islam), deceit ("War is deceit" - and everything is Jihad), and even broken promises/words/oaths (f.x. 2/225a and 5/89a+b above). And a man wanting power and riches for bribes for more power - - - and women.

      In contradiction to Muhammad's inability to prove anything at all, and his "explaining" away - sometimes even lying in the Quran and Hadiths (see separate chapter) - about Allah's claimed power, both the Quran (f.x. 5/110) and the Bible (f.x. Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Acts 20/10 - and of course the resurrection of Jesus himself) tell about Yahweh's power over death. Thought provoking?

       

      155 21/56d: “- - - He (Allah*) Who created them (man*) (from nothing).” Wrong. Man was not created from nothing. He was not even created. See 6/2b above and 21/56c just above.

      But of course Islam is free to prove - but prove, not only airy or even dishonest claims - science wrong and the Quran right.

      ##156 21/56e: “- - - He (Allah*) Who created them (man*) (from nothing): and I (Abraham) am a witness to this (truth)”. Wrong even according to the Quran, as the Quran tells Man - Adam - was created from this and that (see 6/2b above). And on top of that: – man was made from something, though not created, as he developed from earlier primates. This really is an unintended joke: It is claimed that Allah did something which is not true - and Abraham witnesses that it is the truth, and this even if he lived millions of years later! (Some 6 million years or a bit more after the first humanoid, and may be 200ooo after the first Homo Sapiens - modern man). Some proof for Allah! Is it possible that Allah himself has sent down this mistaken "proof"? But it does tell something about proofs in the Quran – and from Muslims.

      157 21/79e: “- - - it was Our (Allah’s*) power that made the hills - - - celebrate Our (Allah's) praise - - -.” Hills express no feelings or anything – they are totally inanimate. Simply animism - normally found in primitive religions and fairy tales. Not from the Bible.

      158 21/79f: “- - - it was Our (Allah’s*) power that made the hills and the birds celebrate Our (Allah's) praise - - -.” Hills express no feelings or anything – they are totally inanimate. Birds? In old times religious people claimed they sang to praise God - or Allah or gods. But science has long since found that the reasons for their songs are more prosaic – mainly to declare their territory or to attract mates. Besides they do not have the brain power for abstract thinking like praising a god. Animism and anthropomorphism in one verse - things normally found in primitive religions and in fairy tales.

      159 21/104d: "- - - even as We (Allah*) produced the first Creation - - -". Similar to 11/7a above.

      160 21/104e: "- - - even as We (Allah*) produced the first Creation, so shall We produce a new one - - -". Lose promises are easy - and Allah has till now not proved he can neither create nor recreate anything at all. Yes, he has not even proved his own existence or any connection to Muhammad.

      161 22/5b: “- - - We (Allah*) created you out of dust - - -”. Wrong. Man was not created out of dust. See 6/2b above or 22/5d below.

      162 22/5c: “- - - then (Allah created you) out of sperm”. Wrong. Human beings are not created out of sperm, even though it is obvious that Muhammad believed so - the Quran indicates that sperm is planted in a woman like seeds and grows. Human beings in reality are made from 1 sperm cell + 1 egg cell, but it is likely Muhammad did not know this - such an egg cell is too small to be seen without magnification in all the blood, intestines, and gore in an opened carcass. His belief also corresponds to an old Greek theory. Gods hardly believe in old and wrong theories - so who made the Quran? See also 22/5d just below.

      163 22/7e: "- - - (the fact) that Allah will raise up all who are in the graves". The only thing about central topics in the Quran which is a fact, is that as not one of them in any way is proved or documented, not one of them can be reckoned to be a fact - they all just are claims, not facts.

      164 22/66a: "It is He (Allah*) Who gave you (people*) life - - -". Often claimed, never proved. See 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      165 23/12: “Man We (Allah*) did create from a quintessence (of clay)”. We have never understood what a quintessence of clay is, but it is absolutely sure it is wrong: For one thing man was not created - according to science he developed from earlier primates. For another thing - even if one had accepted Islam’s statement that man is created, Adam in no way could have been created in many ways - see 6/2. And for a third thing: Man is not created from only one or a few minerals like in clay. Besides: This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”. (Also see verse 6/2b in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 29 other verses. But minimum 11 contradictions.)

      But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - that science is wrong and the Quran right.

      166 23/14c: "- - - Allah, the best to create!" Often claimed, never proved. See f.x. 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      167 23/17d: "- - - (our) (Allah's*) Creation". See 10/7a and 21/56c above.

      168 23/78: "It is He (Allah*) Who has created for you (the faculties of) hearing, sight, feeling and understanding - - -". One more in the long line of never documented claims about natural phenomena claimed for Allah - just like believers from other religions claim it for their god(s). Lose words and as lose claims are that cheap, as long as you are able to flee from proving anything. Also see 11/7a above.

      169 23/79a: "It is He (Allah*) who gives life and death - - -". This is a claim you meet several times in the Quran, and we find it an interesting one - interesting because neither Allah nor Muhammad ever was able to prove one millimeter of the claim - like all other central claims in the Quran - whereas Yahweh several times proved he had the power, if the old books tell the truth about this.

      170 23/79b: “And He (Allah*) has multiplied you through the earth - - -”. To say the least of it: That is something the nature and we have managed ourselves absolutely without any help - and with pleasure. Proofs for the claims, Muslims? See 11/7a above.

      171 23/115a: "- - - We (Allah*) created you (people*) - - -". See 21/56c and 11/7a above.

       

      172 24/45a: “Allah has created - - -". See 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      173 24/45b: “Allah has created every animal (also man is an animal*) from (not in, but from*) water - - -.” To say it with small letters and no laughing: No comments. But this is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses. And here minimum 28 contradictions.) Simply and obviously wrong.

      Some Muslims try to say that science has proved this verse (+ two others - 21/30 and 24/54) as science has shown that life started in water. But there is an enormous difference between “from” water and “in” water. No place in the Quran there is even a whisper about that life was created in water, only from. We also mention that in the Quran nothing is said about how the plants were created, even though the plants are the basis for all life on Earth. Perhaps from water like the animals? Wrong simply.

      174 24/45c: "Allah created what He wills - - -". See 21/56c above.

      175 25/2f: "- - - it is He (Allah*) who created all things - - -". See 6/2b, 7/158i and 21/56c and not to forget 11/7a above.

      176 25/49c: "- - - things We (Allah*) have created - - -". Often claimed, never documented.

      177 25/54a : “It is He (Allah*) Who created man from water - - -.” One thing which is absolutely sure, is that man is not made from water. And a wider truth: It is likely life started in water, but not created from water - in this case there is a huge difference between "in" and "from". Another thing which is as sure, is that Muhammad has made a lot of contradiction in his tales about how man – and the rest, too – was created.

      This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tells man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapter about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses. And here minimum 28 contradictions.)

      But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - that science is wrong and the Quran right.

      *178 25/59a: “He (Allah*) Who created the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth and all that is between, in six days - - -”. Wrong. It took 4.6 billion years to create the Earth like it is today. (Actually the latest numbers are 4.567 billion - and for the universe (see 51/47c)/heaven 13.7 billion). Even in the Quran you can find contradicting information saying it took 2 + 4 + 2 days = 8 days:

      1. 41/9-12: These verses tell that Allah took 2 + 4 + 2 days = 8 days to create everything. (Muslims try to tell that the first 2 days are included in the 4 days, but just read this yourself and see – what they wish you to believe is not what the Quran says. It says very clearly 2 days for one job, 4 for the next, and 2 for the last = 8 days. Some also wants you to believe that "day" in Arab = eon. For one thing it is not a correct translation, and for another read 2/117 and see if Allah should need 6 – 8 eons.)

       

      ##179 25/62a: “And it is He (Allah*) Who made the Night and the Day follow each other”. Wrong. It is the turning of the Earth in the sunshine that causes this - any god had known. See 11/7a above.

      But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - that science is wrong, and the Quran right.

      180 26/7b: “Do they (non-Muslims*) not look at the earth - how many noble things of all kinds We (Allah*) have produced therein?” Yes, we see a lot of noble things - and also a lot of ignoble and terrible things, like Darfur, women’s and non-Muslims’ life in some Muslim areas, terrorists, catastrophes, etc. - in the world. But we see no proof of any god - and definitely not of a god who has proved he is Allah.

      181 26/184: "- - - Him (Allah*) Who created you (people*) - - -". See 6/2b and 21/56c and not least 11/7a above.

      182 27/60c: "Yea, with it (rain*) We (Allah*) cause to grow well-planted orchards full of beauty and delight". See 11/7a or 27/60a above.

      183 27/61a: "Or, who has made the earth firm to live in - - -". The answer to this rhetoric question is intended to be Allah, but see f.x. 11/7a or 27/60a above.

      We add a quote: "'Surely' (etc.*) and rhetorical questions - whenever you encounter these in a text, stop and think. The author usually wants you to skate over them as if the claim is so obvious as to be beyond doubt, or the answer self-evident. The opposite is often the case." (Graham Lawton.) Try to count such cases in the Quran - they are MANY. Especially the never proved claim "the Truth" and similar are very often used.

      ##184 27/61b: “(Allah*) has made the earth firm to live in, made rivers in its midst; set thereon mountains immovable - - -”. All of this nature manages very well itself. The only things which are proved about Allah because of this or other natural phenomena, are that the Quran likes to give Allah credit for everything, and that it is not able to prove anything.

      Would an omniscient god establish all his credibility - and risk it - all on lose words, invalid and even wrong signs, contradictions, and as invalid and wrong proofs - not to mention helpless and unclear language? - things he had to know would backfire the day humans started to find out things?

      185 27/61d: “(Allah*) made rivers in its (the Earth’s) midst - - -”. One curious fact is that Hadiths claim that two of these rivers - the Nile and the Euphrates - start in Paradise(!!)

      Besides: On a spherical Earth there is no midst (there of course is inside, but in that midst there is no river.)

      186 27/86a: "- - - We (Allah*) made the Night - - - and the Day - - -". Two of the many natural phenomena Muhammad claimed for his god. They are without any value as indications or proofs for Allah unless Islam proves it really is Allah who makes them.

      187 27/86b: “See they not that We (Allah*) have made the Night for them (non-Muslims/humans*) to rest in - - - Verily (though it definitely is no proved verity/truth*), in this are signs for any people that believe”. Muhammad got this 180 degrees wrong. Animals active in daytime have adapted to the periods of darkness by using it for inactivity (whereas animals active at night use the periods of light for inactivity because in day it often is more dangerous for some of them - or easier to find pray for others) - it is not the other way round. Also if we had had permanent light through hundreds of millions of years, life had adapted to that and to the possibility of permanent ability to do things - making humans more efficient and saving them from the extra dangers found in the darkness. This also goes for bodily and mental processes now taking place at night.

      And still we miss even a grain of proofs for that Allah is involved.

      188 28/68b: “Thy (Muslims’*) Lord (Allah*) does create and choose as he pleases: no choice have they (non-Muslims*) (in the matter)”. No matter what you do, you can do nothing to change the destination Allah has predestined, according to the Quran. Correct if Allah exists and is correctly described in the Quran, but only then.

      189 28/68c: (A28/74): “Thy Lord (Allah*) does create and choose as He pleases: no choice have they (in the matter) - - -.” A clear message and in full compliance to Allah’s power of predestination. But predestination collides with man’s presumed (partly, according to some Muslims) free will (predestination and free will - even partly - is mutually excluding each other. The combination of the two is even theoretically impossible, and Muslims goes to a lot of pain to reduce both (“not real predestination” and “partly free will”) to make space for a little of both, but no matter: It still is even theoretically impossible to combine them - - - except in religious wishful thinking. Can that be the reason why this explanation is preferred by many Muslims (Zamakhshari, etc.): “(Allah) chooses (for mankind) whatever is best for them.” Then the problem of predestination is omitted – and both translations are possible from the Arab text “ma kana lahum al-khiyarah”. (Al-khiyarah or khirah (depending on what vowels you place there) = “choice” or “freedom to choose”). Just you choose - as mentioned a couple of times the texts in the Quran often far from is "clear and easy to understand".

      190 28/73a: "It is out of His (Allah's*) Mercy that He has made for you Night and Day - - -". Claims as empty of value as 28/71a+b+c+d until it is proved it really is Allah who does it.

      191 28/68b: “Thy (Muslims’*) Lord (Allah*) does create and choose as he pleases: no choice have they (non-Muslims*) (in the matter)”. No matter what you do, you can do nothing to change the destination Allah has predestined, according to the Quran. Correct if Allah exists and is correctly described in the Quran, but only then.

      192 28/68c: (A28/74): “Thy Lord (Allah*) does create and choose as He pleases: no choice have they (in the matter) - - -.” A clear message and in full compliance to Allah’s power of predestination. But predestination collides with man’s presumed (partly? according to some Muslims) free will (predestination and free will - even partly - is mutually excluding each other. The combination of the two is even theoretically impossible, and Muslims goes to a lot of pain to reduce both (“not real predestination” and “partly free will”) to make space for a little of both, but no matter: It still is even theoretically impossible to combine them - - - except in religious wishful thinking. Can that be the reason why this explanation is preferred by many Muslims (Zamakhshari, etc.): “(Allah) chooses (for mankind) whatever is best for them.” Then the problem of predestination is omitted – and both translations are possible from the Arab text “ma kana lahum al-khiyarah”. (Al-khiyarah or khirah (depending on what vowels you place there) = “choice” or “freedom to choose”). Just you choose - as mentioned a couple of times the texts in the Quran often far from is "clear and easy to understand".

      193 29/19a: "See they (people*) not how Allah originates creation - - -". How is it possible to see that, when it nowhere is shown? An interesting claim, really, as Allah nowhere has proved his power neither for creation, nor for recreation, whereas Yahweh has done so according to both the Bible and the Quran - if they tell the truth on these points (1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt. 27/52, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10, the Quran 3/49b, 5/110i + Jesus). Also see 21/56c+e above.

      194 29/19b: "- - - then (Allah*) repeats it (creation i.e. recreation*) - - -". See 7/158i and 29/19a above.

      195 29/20b: "Travel through the earth and see how Allah did originate creation". ???! It is nowhere shown in this entire wide world.

      Actually we have travelled through a good part of the Earth. We have seen a lot of nature and culture - even seen and heard about some things worth a god (and some worth a devil - like war and terrorism). But we have seen or heard no proof of a god - and absolutely no proof of Allah, with the possible exception that such a gruesome and warlike god - in spite of all words about kindness and benevolence - may be the explanation of some horrific actions taking place in the name of Allah here and there.

      Also see 21/56c+e above.

      196 29/20c: "- - - Allah originates creation - - -". See 29/19a and not least 11/7a .above.

      197 29/20d: "- - - so will Allah produce a later creation - - -". Easy to claim, not even tried to prove. Also see 29/19a above.

      198 29/44a: "Allah created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". See 6/1e, 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      199 29/44b: "Allah created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in true (proportions) - - -". f.x. 7 material heavens, one above the other, and 7 flat Earths (65/12 - according to Hadiths also here one above the other). See 6/1e, 11/7a and 21/56c+e above.

      200 30/11a: "It is Allah Who begins (the process of) creation". One of the Quran's many never proved claims. See 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      201 30/11b: "It is Allah Who begins (the process of) creation; then repeats it (resurrection*) - - -". One more of the Quran's many never proved claims. See 7/158i above.

      202 30/19c: "- - - and thus shall ye (people*) be brought out (from the dead)". Often claimed, never proved - and as so often just a claim any priest in any religion can make on behalf of his religion. If the old books tell the truth, Yahweh at least proved things - Allah (Muhammad?) only had claims and as invalid words. Also see 7/158i above.

      #203 30/20a: “Among His (Allah’s*) Signs is this, that He created you from dust - - -”. Wrong. Man was not created from dust - really he was not created at all according to science. See 6/2b above. There is an extra irony in the fact that the Quran uses a piece of wrong information to “prove” Allah. Contradiction of reality - and of the Quran, as the book also tells Adam was created many different ways. Also: Muhammad claims most things for the glory of his god - but he never has anything but words and claims. And see 21/56c above.

      204 30/22c: "- - - creation - - -". We must admit we find Muhammad's claims for that Allah is the creator interesting, as Allah never was able to prove such power, and all the same the Quran uses claims about such power as a "proof" for Allah. But in contrast to Allah, Yahweh proved his power - - - if the old books tell the truth.

      205 30/25d: "- - - when He (Allah*) calls you (a human*), by a single call, from the earth (your grave*), behold, ye (straightaway) come forth". This is about the resurrection. Muhammad often claims in the Quran, that Allah will resurrect everybody. But there never was anything but lose words and as lose claims - neither Allah nor Muhammad ever was able to prove by even one millimeter any of the central claims of Muhammad.

      206 30/27b: "It is He (Allah*) Who begins (the process of) creation; then repeats it - - -". His claimed power also of resurrection - see 7/158i above.

      207 30/30c: "- - - on which He (Allah*) has made mankind - - -". See 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      208 30/40a: "It is Allah Who has created you - - -". See 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      209 30/40d: "- - - and again He (Allah*) will give you life (resurrection*) - - -". See 7/158i.

      210 30/50b: "- - - He (Allah*) gives life to the earth after its death - - -". In this case Muhammad refers to the desert coming alive after rain. But is it Allah who produces the rain? - or nature? - or some other god? Besides this phenomenon you only find in dry area - any god knows all kinds of areas and had used a more universally understandable picture. But Muhammad mainly knew dry area. One more thing: If water is all it takes to make the area flourish, it was not dead, it just looked so - it was alive with seeds and roots. Hibernating, not dead. Also see 11/7a above.

      211 30/50d: "- - - verily, the Same (Allah*) will give life to the men who are dead - - -". See 7/158i above.

      212 30/54a: "It is Allah who created you - - -". See f.x. 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c or 30/27a above.

      213 30/54b: "- - - He (Allah*) creates as He wills - - -". See 11/7a, 21/56c and 7/158i above.

      214 30/54c: "- - - He (Allah*) creates as He wills - - -". Why then should he not be able to create a son if he wished? - and no mortal can know or understand what a god may wish.

      215 31/10a: "He created - - -". One of the Quran's many unproved claims. See 11/7a and21/56c above.

      ###216 31/10b: “He created the heavens (plural and wrong*) without any pillars that you can see - - -”. The Quran tells that the 7 heavens rest on invisible pillars (of course they need pillars - if not they would fall down!!!). Nowadays even Islam knows this is wrong, and the statements have to be explained away. We have f.x. been told from Islamic information centers on Internet that: “- everyone with an IQ more than 60 of course understand that that means the pillars do not exist”.

      But we know well the difference between “invisible” and “not existing”.

      We also remember that the Quran - and Islam and Muslims - says the book is to be understood literally - "clear meaning" - (if nothing else is said). About the statement that what is said in the Quran has clear meaning - see 3/7, 11/1b, 19/97, 26/2, 27/1, 28/2, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/32. No doubt.

      Some proof for his power! - a totally laughable claim scientifically.

      217 31/10f: “He set on earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you - - -”. Originally Muslim scholars say that this refers to the (wrong) danger that the pancake-like (?), flat disc which is Earth, could start shaking or wobbling, then to tumble and turn and drop you off - and some such scholars still admits this is the real meaning. But even if we accept Islam’s modern “explanation” - that this has to do with earth quakes, it is completely wrong. Mountains do not hinder earth quakes. On the contrary: Earthquakes very often are connected to the same processes which build the mountains, whether this is tectonic or volcanic activity (when we say “very often” in connection to tectonic activity, the reason is that earthquakes also are made from tectonic plates just sliding past each other, or one under the other, without building mountains). The fact is that in some cases mountains - or because of varieties in big lakes or masses of snow in the mountains giving varying weight - can cause earthquakes (source: New Scientist). (There f.x. are some more earthquakes in the northern part of the Earth during winter, because of the weight of the snow, and there often is more snow in the mountains than in the low-land, producing imbalance - also here the source is New Scientist.)

      218 31/10i: "- - - (Allah*) produce on earth every kind of noble creature - - -". See 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      219 31/11a: “Such is the Creation of Allah - - -". See 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      220 31/11b: “Such is the Creation of Allah: now show Me (Allah*) what is there that others beside Him have created - - -.” Show us first if all the cheap words about everything Allah has created, are true – there only are lose and easy words anyone can use about his/her god(s), free of charge. With all the mistakes and contradictions, twisted words and logic and even some obvious lies (f.x. that miracles would not influence skeptics or proselytes) the Quran is built on, also this may be wrong.

      This a typical sample of one of the Quran's techniques for debate: It put forth one or more claims without any kind of proof or documentation, pretends the claims are facts and debates from there - even though the claims often are fairy tales.

      For good measure the opponents have to prove what they say (here: "Show me - - -") whereas from the Quran/Muhammad lose words and as lose claims are to be accepted - not one single claim regarding central points in the religion is proved. A lot of invalid "signs" (Quran-speak for proofs for Allah) and a few as invalid "proofs" are put forth, but that is all - not one real proof for anything essential in the entire religion.

      221 32/4a: “It is Allah Who has created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth, and all between them - - -". See 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      222 32/4b: “It is Allah Who has created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth, and all between them, in six Days - - -”. One simple and polite remark: Very wrong. And another: A contradiction also to the verses in the Quran which tell 2 + 4 + 2 = 8 days.

      1. 41/9-12: These verses tell that Allah took 2 + 4 + 2 days = 8 days to create everything. (Muslims try to tell that the first 2 days are included in the 4 days, but just read this yourself and see – what they wish you to believe is not what the Quran says. It says very clearly 2 days for one job, 4 for the next, and 2 for the last = 8 days. Some also wants you to believe that day in Arab = eon. For one thing it is not a correct translation, and for another read 2/117 and see if Allah should need 6 – 8 eons.)

       

      Also strongly contradicting science. But of course Islam is free to prove - but prove - that science is wrong and Islam right.

      223 32/5b: "He (Allah*) rules (all) affairs from the heavens (plural and wrong) - - -". Allah decides - predestines - everything.

      224 32/7a: “He (Allah*) Who made everything which He created - - -". See 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      225 32/7b: “He (Allah*) Who made everything which He created most Good - - -“. Wrong. We could have had better resistance concerning illnesses, our bodies could have been able to make more of the vitamins themselves, our brain could have been better – f.x. ability to think about 2-3 things at a time, or learning more easily – just to mention a few points. Good, but far from most good. Contradicted by among others zoological facts. Also see 11/7a above

      226 32/7c: “He began the creation of man with (nothing more than) clay”. Wrong. Man was not created from clay. See 6/2b above.

      227 32/8a: “And (Allah*) made his (man’s) progeny from a quintessence of the nature of a fluid despised - - -”. Only half the truth. Muhammad believed the semen was a kind of seed planted in the woman – he did not know about the egg cell. Any god had known. Then who made the Quran?

      228 32/9b: "But He (Allah*) fashioned him (Adam*) in due proportions, and breathed into him something of His spirit (= life*)." A bit different from what natural science says.

      229 34/7d: "- - - (in ridicule) - - - (because of the claim that *) when ye (people*) are all scattered to pieces in disintegration, that ye shall (then be raised) in a New Creation - - -". The reason for their skepticism hardly was the resurrection. Perhaps it was true that the old Arabs did not believe strongly in a next life, but they in case knew that resurrection was normal for the surrounding religions, and thus nothing new or strange. What was difficult to believe, was resurrection of the body, not only of the soul. (But for Muhammad resurrection of the body was necessary, as most of the pleasures in his claimed Paradise were bodily pleasures).

      In the Bible man is resurrected in soul, in the Quran he is resurrected in body - a difference so formidable that this alone definitely proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. If they had been, their Paradises - and resurrections - had been the same.

      230 35/1b: “- - - Allah, who created (out of nothing) the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -”. In a way it is nearly correct that the heaven as we see it, is made of nearly nothing, as an optical illusion is made from photons = nearly nothing (but Muhammad was very wrong all the same, as he/the Quran believed the heavens consisted of something material). But the Earth definitely is not made from nothing - not even if one refers to Big Bang. And Muhammad's heavens also were material ones – if not f.x. the stars could not be fastened to one of the heavens). We may add that the 7 heavens is a construction taken from old Greek and Persian wrong astronomy – they used 7 invisible, but strong heavens to try to explain the celestial movements. A fact Muslims never mention. (Also see 37/6c below.)

      231 35/1g: "He (Allah*) adds to Creation as He pleases - - -". An interesting piece of information, as there nowhere is proved that Allah neither creates (see 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c above), nor resurrects (see 7/158i above).

      #232 35/3c: "Is there a Creator, other than Allah - - -". Is Allah a creator? Yes, is Allah a creator? There are lots of lose claims and as lose statements about him, but not one atom is proved or documented. And claims for blind belief are the hallmarks of cheats and deceivers - and sometimes politicians. Also see 6/2b, 7/158i, 11/7a and not least 21/56c above.

      ###Also note Muhammad's technique: He debates like Allah is a proved fact, even though he never was able to prove one inch about him - lots of claims, but never a real proof. You meet this technique many places in the Quran - some places even added by demands for proofs from all non-Muslims.

      ####There even is an extra point here: Muhammad's demands for proofs from non-Muslims prove that he meant proofs were essential, but all the same he himself was totally unable to give a valid proof for not one of his central claims concerning Allah or Islam or the Quran or his own claimed connection to a god.

      233 35/3d: "Is there a Creator, other than Allah - - -". Yes, according to the Bible there is - Yahweh. The old Jewish and Christian god even Islam admits - rightly or wrongly - exists, though they wrongly mix him up with Allah.

      And was Allah really a creator?

      234 35/11a: “And Allah did create you from dust - - -”. Wrong - man was not created from dust. According to science he developed from earlier primates. We may add that the Quran some places have a list of the step-by-step development of humans. The first step generally is the creation of man (like here). Next step is the semen - Mohammad does not seem to have known about the egg cell - like in 35/11c below. Next steps are the start and development of the fetus - but bones come before the meat, wrong. Then sometimes follows birth and development of the child and the man.

      235 35/11c: “And Allah did create you from dust, then from a sperm-drop - - -.” See 6/2b and 35/11a above. In addition; no one is made from a sperm drop - one always is made from (a) sperm (cell) + an egg cell. A god had known this, but Muhammad not, as an egg cell for one thing is nearly impossible to see in the blood and gore of a carcass, and not least: Even if he saw it, he would not know it was something special.

      236 36/12b: "Verily We (Allah*) shall give life to the dead - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See 7/158i above.

      237 36/22a: "- - - serve Him (Allah*) Who created me - - -". Wrong - man was not created, but developed from earlier primates. Besides: See 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      238 36/33b: “A sign for them is the earth that is dead: We (Allah*) do give it life - - - “. From other parts of the Quran, we know it here means “by adding rain”. But a land which comes to life just by adding rain, is not dead - it is alive with seeds and perhaps roots. Hibernating, not dead. Also see 11/7a above.

      239 36/33c: "- - - We (Allah*) do give it life - - -". This is a claim you frequently meet in the Quran: Allah gives life. In just this and similar cases where there is life already, but only need water to sprout, it may look - look - like being true. But for real creation of life or real resurrection there never was a valid proof for that Allah had or has such power (as opposed to Yahweh who has proved both if the old books tell the truth).

      240 36/34: "And We (Allah*) produce therein orchards with date-palms and vines, and We causes springs to gush forth therein - - -". See 11/7a above.

      241 36/36c: “Glory to Allah, Who created in pairs all things that the earth produces - - -". See f.x. 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      242 36/36d: “- - - Allah, Who created in pairs all things that the earth produces - - -”. Wrong. Only multi-cellular plants and animals are in pairs - and far from all of those, too. No uni-cellular life exists in pairs - and they are far more abundant both in numbers and species. Besides there is quite a number of multi-cellular beings that propagates asexually and thus do not exist in pairs – up to and included sponges, etc., some fish and some reptiles. Not to mention among plants and trees, where both genders often are at the same plant. Contradicted by biological and zoological - and botanical - facts.

      243 36/37b: "We (Allah*) withdrew therefrom (from the night*) the Day - - -". See f.x. 11/7a above.

      244 36/37c: "We (Allah*) withdrew therefrom (from the night*) the Day - - -". Wrong. The day is not withdrawn from the night. It is the night which is a small exception from the eternal day around the sun. Any god had known this, but Muhammad not. Then who made the Quran?

      245 36/71a: "See they (humans*) not that it is We (Allah*) Who have created for them - - - cattle - - - ?" Well, cattle existed for eons before man found out he could utilize them some 15ooo years ago. They simply were part of the nature and the fauna, not created for the humans.

      246 36/71b: "it is We (Allah*) Who have created - - -". See 11/7a above.

      247 36/77a: "Doth not man see that it is We (Allah*) Who created him from sperm?". Wrong - even if we overlook the fact that here once more Muhammad claims a natural phenomenon as glorification for his god without the slightest proof for that it is true, this is wrong:

      1. In normal English "created man" means to have created the "animal" race called "man". But see 6/2b above.
      2. But even if it here should be meant each and every human born the natural way, it is wrong, as a human is not made from semen, but from one cell of semen plus one egg cell, which fuses together and start growing. Muhammad believed semen was a kind of seed which might start growing when "planted" in a woman - he even did not know about the egg cell, which any god had done.

       

      Also see 11/7a above.

      248 36/77b: "- - - it is We (Allah*) Who created - - -". Similar claims you find many places in the Quran, and we find them as interesting each time, as there never was a proof for that Allah created even the left hind foot of a gnat. There only are words and claims - whereas Yahweh has proved a lot, if the old books tell the truth about this.

      249 36/78b: "Who can give life to (dry) bones, and decomposed ones (at that)?" Muhammad claimed that Allah gathered all the bits and molecules and fluids which had made up you, and resurrected you physically (but to a young adult). This was a bit difficult for the skeptics to believe, naturally.

      250 36/79d: "For He (Allah*) is well-versed in every kind of creation!" See 6/1e, 6/2b, 7/158i, 11/7a, 21/56c above, and 65/12 below.

      251 36/81a: "Is not He (Allah*) Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". But was it he - among all the gods claiming credit for that creating - who created it? There only are the lose, never proved words of an unreliable man (al-Taqiyya, Kitman, etc., even broken oaths, deceit, and betrayals) with strong motives (f.x. lust for power) for telling tales, like many false prophets do and have done throughout the times. Only on this man's undocumented claims does this unproved claim rest - and MANY of the same man's other claims are proved wrong and a few times even clear lies, literally far more than a thousand times. The chance for it to be true, is feeble to say the least of it. A very minimum demand is that Islam proves something before they can expect to be believed. Also see 11/7a above.

      Besides science tells that the Earth and the universe (see 51/47c) was created by nature, and far from at the same time or place.

      252 36/81b: "Is not He (Allah*) Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) able to create the like thereof?". He at least has to prove it - there are so much wrong in the Quran, that its claims and words are not reliable. As it is unlikely he created the first time, it is as unlikely he will be able to create a second time.

      But note Muhammad's method of debating: He starts with a never proved statement, pretends it is a fact, and argues from there on. Logically it is totally hopeless and invalid, but efficient demagogy. But who is it who has to rely on made up statements, invalid logic, and demagogy? - the cheater, the deceiver, the swindler, the charlatan.

      253 36/81d: "Yea, indeed (Allah created it*)!" Wrong unless Islam proves it - not claims, but proves it. There is no indication at all for that Allah created the universe (see 51/47c) - on the contrary: According to the Quran's description of even the near universe (see 51/47c), the maker of the Quran - claimed to be Allah - did not even know what it looked like (see chapter in http://www.1000mistakes.com ).

      254 36/81f: "For He (Allah*) is the creator Supreme - - -". Often claimed, never proved. Also see 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c above.

      ###255 36/82b: "Verily, when He (Allah*) intends a thing, His Command is 'Be', and it is!" It is not for mere humans to speculate about why a god might want company, but if the god for some reason did want it, he according to the Quran just could say "Be a son", and Jesus was. This as a comment to Muslims' - and the Quran's - repeated question about how the god could have a son when he had no consort. (Besides in the very old Hebrew religion there also was a female deity - the male god's Amat. (Source "New Scientist" and others). Thus Jesus well could have been created "the natural way" if that is necessary for gods. The Amat was over time forgotten - the strictly masculine society of the old Hebrews did not respect a female, even not a female deity.)

      ###256 37/6a: “We (Allah*) have indeed decked the lower heaven (in) stars - - -". On more of Muhammad's high-jacking of natural phenomena to glorify his god - in this case like in some others with the bad luck that his "proof" is totally wrong - there exists no lower heaven, not to mention a lower heaven decked with stars. (See 37/6c below.)

      ###257 37/6b: “We (Allah*) have indeed decked the lower heaven (in) stars - - -”. The Quran tells this in some varieties some places in the book: The stars are fastened to the lowest of the 7 heavens (which also means that the heavens have to be made from something material - if not it was not possible to fasten the stars there). The stars also are lower than the moon, as other places in the Quran tell that the moon are in between the heavens - in addition to that, it here is said the stars are fastened to the lowest heaven (37/6, 41/12), and as also the moon was fasten to a heaven according to the astronomy of that time, in addition to that the Quran tells it is between the heavens, it has to be higher than the lowest heaven. The mistake that the stars are fastened to a heaven, actually is borrowed from Greek and/or Persian astronomy at the time of Muhammad (a fact mistake - any baby god had known better. Muslims generally try to evade questions about this - or give you a lot of diffuse words, and never tell it is from local, wrong astronomy). We have hardly ever seen a reasonable – not correct, but at least logically reasonable - explanation of this mistake, except the standard one when something is so wrong that even “explanations” are not possible: It is “figurative”, "allegorical” - or something similar - explanations or stories. (Also see 37/6c below.)

      #258 37/11a: "- - - beings We (Allah*) have created". The funny thing is that there never was proved Allah created anything at all (see f.x. 11/7a above) - there only are lofty claims and words from a man with a very doubtful moral, believing in the use of dishonesty when that gave better results, and wanting power, respect and riches - at least for bribes for more power - and women.

      259 37/96: "But Allah has created you - - -". One more never proved claim - a claim most priests in most religions make on behalf of their (relevant) god(s). Also see 6/2b above.

      260 37/125b: "- - - the Best of Creation". A bit ironic claim, as Allah never - not once - proved neither his power for creation, nor for recreation (as opposed to Yahweh if the old books tell the truth).

      261 38/71: “I (Allah*) am about to create man from clay”. Quite similar to 37/11 above. This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2 in "1000+ mistakes in the Quran".) (Strictly speaking this contradicts some 30 different verses, but minimum 12 sure contradictions.) Also see 11/7a above.

      In addition: Man according to science was not created, but developed from earlier primates - and not created from clay.

      But of course Islam is free to prove - prove - that science is wrong and the Quran right.

      262 38/75: “- - - one (man*) whom I (Allah*) have created with my hands - - -.” See 6/2b, 11/7a, and 38/71 above.

      263 39/5a: “He (Allah*) created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in true (proportions)”. True to Muhammad’s picture of the heaven(s) and the Earth - the Earth f.x. is flat like a disk in the Quran. And 7 heavens + 7 earths (65/12b below). And just not “in true proportions”. Wrong. Also see 11/7a above.

      264 39/6b: "He (Allah*) created you (all) from a single person (Adam*) - - -". Wrong. According to science, man developed from earlier primates. Also: If there were only one couple, the DNA-pool would be too small for survival of the race (this actually is a problem for the tale about the animals and the ark, too).

      265 39/6c: "- - - then (Allah*) created, of like nature, his (Adam's*) mate (Eve - the name is nowhere given in the Quran, only in the Bible*) - - -". One more never proved claim in the Quran. But see 39/6b just above.

      266 39/6e: “He (Allah*) sent down for you eight head of cattle in pairs - - -”. From other places in the Quran we know the cattle were: 2 cows, 2 sheep, 2 goats, 2 camels = 4 pairs = 8 heads. That is wrong, as the Quran is for the entire world: There also are water buffalo (Asia), reindeer (in the north), lama (S. America), the alpaca (S. America), the guanaco (S. America), the vicuna (S. America - the 4 from S. America are distantly related to the camel) - the yak (Asia), and (Indian) elephant - and perhaps others (+ horse, donkey, etc. (and the interesting animal pigs, also created by Allah according to Islam, but for some reason which nobody knows, taboo for Jews and Muslims – the meat is tasty and of high quality - - - but an abomination according to the Quran, without any explanation. There are theories that it is because pig is a dirty animal – but in the wild they are not. Another theory is the danger of trichinosis – but that is easy to check for and prevent. Yet another is that the pig eats the same kind of food as people, and therefore became too “expensive” for many societies. But nobody really knows, and the Quran does not explain)). Besides cattle were not created or “sent down”, but developed. Any god knew this – Muhammad not. Who made the Quran? Contradicted by zoological facts. As for "8 heads" and DNA see 39/6b above.

      267 39/6f: “He (Allah*) makes you, in the womb of your mothers, in stages, one after the other - - -.” According to old Greek medicine (Galen, Aristotle), the fetus developed in 4 stages. Modern medicine disagrees – it is continuous.

      268 39/21a: This verse is one of the many places where Muhammad claims the honor of natural phenomena for his god - always without the slightest proof. Just like so many other self proclaimed prophets or believers do for their relevant god(s). Totally without any value as an indication - not to mention a proof - for Allah as long as it is not proved that Allah really did it. Worse: Who is it who has to rely on invalid proof and fast talk? Cheats and deceivers.

      269 39/21c: "Then He (Allah*) causes to grow - - -". See 11/7a above.

      *270 39/21d: “- - - He (Allah*) makes it (nature) dry up and crumble away. Truly, in this, is a Message of remembrance to men of understanding.” Allah does not have to do anything for this to happen - nature itself does it all alone, just by sending the rain to other places for some time. But of course to be able to control the nature gives status and seemingly power as long as you do not have to prove anything at all, and as long as uneducated or naïve or religiously blind followers are satisfied with that “Allah and His Messenger know best”.

      *271 39/38a: “If you ask them (non-Muslim Arabs*) who it is that created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth, they would be sure to say ‘Allah’ - - -”. Wrong. If they believed a god created it, they had named their own god(s) - though there and then it might have been the polytheistic al-Lah, whose name sounds quite similar (and was the pagan god Muhammad dressed up - Muhammad thus could claim it was the same god, even if al-Lah was pagan and his own version monotheistic - see 34/8b and 39/32c above).

      272 39/46b: "(Allah*). Creator of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth!" Often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere. See f.x. 6/1e above.

      273 39/62a: "Allah is the Creator of all things". Often claimed, never proved - and wrong unless Islam proves the opposite. See 6/1e, 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c above.

      274 40/11a: "- - - twice hast Thou (Allah*) given us life!" See 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c for creation/1. life and 7/158i for resurrection.

      275 40/62b: "(Allah*) the Creator of all things - - -". An often used, but never proved claim in the Quran - a claim used by most religions, as it cost nothing to claim it for ones god. It is one of the many natural phenomena Muhammad frequently used to "verify" or glorify his god - free of charge, but absolutely without any value as an indication or a proof for Allah, as long as it is not proved that it really is Allah who created it.

      276 40/64a: "It is Allah Who made for you the earth - - -". One more natural phenomenon claimed by Muhammad for glorification of and "proof" for his god - as always without any documentation. You find similar claim in many religions - claims are cheap and a number of believers believe in it, no matter which religion they belong to. According to science the Earth is made by nature, and Islam will have to prove - prove - differently to be believed.

      277 40/64b: “(Allah has*) made the sky as a canopy - - -”. Wrong. The sky - or heaven - is not a canopy, especially not when you know that it according to the Quran is made from something material (the stars are fastened to the lowermost heaven). The sky as we see it, is an optical illusion in near vacuum. And also see 40/64a just above and 11/7a further up.

      278 40/67a: “It is He (Allah*) Who has created you from dust - - -”. Wrong. Man was not made from dust. See 6/2b above.

      279 40/67b: “(Allah then made you*) from a sperm drop - - -”. Wrong. You were not made from a sperm drop. You were made from the fusing of a sperm cell and an egg cell - the egg cell even is by far the biggest. From other places in the Quran it is clear that Muhammad believed the sperm was “seeds to plant” in a woman, and there started to grow to become a fetus and then a baby. Any one inch tall god had known that this claim was wrong. Then who made the Quran?

      280 40/68a: "It is He (Allah*) who gives Life - - -". This interesting claim appears several places in the Quran - interesting because it never is proved, whereas both Jesus and Yahweh proved they have the power (if the Bible and/or the Quran is/are reliable on this point).

      ###281 40/68b: " - - - He (Allah*) says to it, 'Be' and it is". And who knows - maybe he once said: "Be a son" and Jesus was. What human is able to understand the unfathomable thoughts and wishes of an omniscient god?

      282 40/79: "It is Allah Who made cattle for you - - -". Typical the Quran - claim glory for Allah, but never able to prove even a comma of the claims. Invalid as indication or proof for Allah. Also see 11/7a above.

      283 41/9b: "- - - Him (Allah*) Who created - - -". Often claimed, never proved - see 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      284 41/9c: “(Allah first*) created the earth in two Days - - -”. Wrong. Earth was far from created first. The universe (see 51/47c) was created some 13.7 billion years ago – our sun and the Earth some 4.6 billion years ago (or actually 4.567 billion according to the latest numbers) - - - and trillions of stars and most likely plants were created in the more than 9 billion years in between. Any god had known, but Muhammad not. Then who created the Quran?

      An extra point: According to 65/12 Allah created no less than 7 (flat) Earths. Hadiths tells they are placed one above the other, are populated(!), and have these names:

      1. Ramaka,
      2. Khalada,
      3. Arqa,
      4. Haraba,
      5. Maltham,
      6. Sijjin,
      7. Ajiba.

       

      In addition there is our world, scientific name Tellus. That makes 8 Earths. But Muslim literature indicates that our Earth (Tellus or Terra) = Ramaka, and thus 65/12 is "correct": 7 Earths + Hell.

      285 41/9d: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -”. Wrong. It took the better part of 4.567 billion years to get it like today - and hundreds of millions of years just to make it fit for life.

      ###286 41/9-12a: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them (living entities*) nourishment in due proportions, in four Days - - - (and*) So he completed them (the sky*) as seven firmaments, in two Days - - -”. This makes 8 days - very inconsistent and very wrong compared to what the Quran normally says: 6 days. (Not to mention the 4.567 billion years science has found out). One more contradiction. We have been told we have to be very stupid who does not understand that the two first days are included in the next four. We admit that is the only way Islam can try to “explain” this away - but this very clearly is not what the text says. (“The Message of the Quran” has “doctored” the Quran a little (at least in the English translation) saying "two eons" to make the “explanation” not quite so dumb - but only “not quite so”, as Yusuf Ali’s translation is very clear. It also is a typical Muslim "explanation away" - "solving" one part of a problem, just to crash headlong into another; here: How do you place a few eons into 6 or 8 days? You find a number of "explanations" like this in Islam - they "explains" details, but forget the big picture, and the big picture makes a lie or even a joke out of the "explanation". But it partly works, because many Muslims so strongly wants to believe or have so little education - at least in critical thinking - that they do not see the new mistake or they simply are so little used to use their brain for critical thinking, that they are unable to compare the new claim to their own knowledge and thus unable to see that also the new claim is a mistake).

      ###287 41/9-12b: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them (living beings*) nourishment in due proportions, in four Days - - - (and*) So he completed them (the sky*) as seven firmaments, in two Days - - -”. This makes 8 days - very inconsistent and very wrong compared to what the Quran which all other places says: 6 days. (Not to mention the 4.567 billion years science has found out). One more contradiction.

      ###288 41/9-12c: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them (living entities*) nourishment in due proportions, in four Days - - - (and*) So he completed them (the sky*) as seven firmaments (plural and wrong*), in two Days - - -”. This makes 8 days - very inconsistent and very wrong compared to what the Quran normally says: 6 days. (Not to mention the 13.7 billion years science has found out - or 4.567 billion years for Earth - or hundreds of millions of years till it got the first primitive life). One more contradiction. We - as said - have been told we have to be very stupid who does not understand that the two first days are included in the next four. We admit that is the only way Islam can try to “explain” this away - but that very clearly is not what the text says. (“The Message of the Quran has “doctored” the Quran a little (at least in the Swedish translation) to make the “explanation” not quite so dumb - but only “not quite so”, as Yusuf Ali’s translation is very clear).

      This means that everything was made in 6 or 8 days – a small intern contradiction. But nothing compared with the contradiction reality makes: 13.7 billion years.

      But of course Islam is free to prove - prove - that science is wrong and the Quran right.

      289 41/9-12d: These verses tell that Allah created the Earth in 2 days, the mountains and everything on Earth in 4 days and finally the heaven (“the seven firmaments” – plural and wrong) in 2 days. 2 + 4 + 2 = 8 days. But:

      1. 7/54: “- - - Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in six Days - - -.”
      2. 10/3: “- - -Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in six Days - - -.”
      3. 11/7: “He (Allah*) is it Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in six Days”.
      4. 25/59: “He (Allah*) Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth and all that is between, in six days - - -.”
      5. 50/38: “We (Allah*) created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth and all between them in six Days - - -.”
      6. 57/4: “He (Allah*) is it Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in Six Days”.

       

      (6 contradictions - - - + the strong contradiction compared to science.)

      048 41/10a: “He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm, high above it - - -“. Wrong. The mountains were not set (down) on Earth – they grew up.

      But of course Islam is free to prove - prove - that science is wrong and the Quran right.

      290 41/10b: “He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm, high above it - - -“. The Quran claims that without the firm mountains the (flat) Earth could start shaking. In reality it talks about that it could start wobbling and tip around (and thus drop you off). Modern Muslims try to claim that the Quran means it hinders earthquakes - but even this is wrong, as mountains do not hinder quakes - on the contrary they sometimes are connected to them. (For one thing the making of mountains often gives earthquakes, and for another the imbalance which mountains represents - f.x. enlarged by water or snow - sometimes even causes earthquakes.) Any god had known this.

      291 41/10c: “He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm - - - - - and measured therein all things to give them (animals or humans?*) nourishment in due proportions, in 4 days - - -”. Wrong. That took millions of years - only the cooling down of the Earth to make any kind of life possible, took at least 300 million years. And the development from the first life to the first "real" animal took some 2.5 - 3.5 billion years (science has believed it took something like one billion years or more before the first primitive life happened, but these last few years they have found that may be it happened a bit earlier). The first "real" animals came in late Pre-Cambrium, in the period some 500 – 600 million years ago that a few years ago was named Ediacarian. (And then animal life “exploded” during the next period named Cambrium.)

      But of course Islam is free to prove - prove - that science is wrong and the Quran right.

      *292 41/12a: “So He (Allah*) completed them as seven firmaments - - -”. (Firmament is another name for the heaven or sky – mainly used for the night sky). But there are no 7 firmaments. All the same you find these claims about 7 heavens/firmaments/tracts in 2/29d+e, 17/44a, 23/17a, 23/86a, 41/12a+b, 65/12a, 67/3a+b and 71/15a+b - all together the Quran mentions "heavens" in plural at least 199 times; there is no doubt the Quran means there are 7 heavens (and as the stars are fastened to the lowermost of them - f.x. 67/5a - they have to be material ones - if not the stars could not be fastened to it). In 67/3 you also are told that the heavens are places one above the other, which means they of course are built successively higher above the Earth - which also is clear from most places in the Quran where the place of the heavens are indicated. Some modern Muslims try to place the heavens in space, deep space included. But among others 67/3 prohibits this, as "up" and "down" ("one above the other") has no meaning as part of the real space.

      By the way: 65/12b also claims there are 7 Earths, and gives their names according to Islam.

      293 41/12b: “So He (Allah*) created them (heaven(s)*) as seven firmaments (wrong - there only is one*) in two days - - - Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might“. Just look up, and you see the firmament - it may be especially impressive at night. Nature at its most colossal, even though it looks petite from Earth. Did any god make it? Was that god in case Allah? There are few reasons to believe so, and definitely no proofs. And what is 100% sure: It was not made in two days - it all started 13.7 billion years ago according to science, and may be the first stars became visible not much later - - - and the creation is still not completed.

      Allah decreed this in the Quran - a most unlucky choice for a “proof", as it is wrong.

      Sometimes our impression is that Muhammad/the Quran behaves like some second rate politicians: They steal arguments and claims, then run in front of people and say they are leading them - in this case leading them to stolen riches, slaves and power. Muhammad/the Quran finds good phenomena and tell that Allah has made them. Only statements, only claims, and only words any “prophet” for any god can use just as cheaply - and sometimes/often like here 120% wrong. Impressive profs - but for what?

      Also see 11/7a above.

      ##294 41/12c: "- - - and He (Allah*) assigned to each heaven its duty and command". A debate about the claimed 7 heavens in the Quran is never started by Muslims, and when they get involved in such a debate, they try to get out of it or to explain it away in some fancy way (there exist no real explanation). But like you see here, there is absolutely no doubt that Muhammad really told that there are 7 real heavens. And as they were used for practical purposes - f.x. to fasten the stars to, and for placing material humans in Paradise on - included really good Muslims on the higher heavens - the heavens have to be material ones. As wrong as wrong can be - and any god had known this. Then who made the Quran?

      As there are no 7 heavens, they also are not assigned duties or commands.

      295 41/12d: “He (Allah*) assigned to each heaven its duty and command”. How could he do that when there were no 7 heavens?

      ####296 41/12e: “And We (Allah*) adorned the lower heaven with lights (= stars*) - - -”. This is one of the points Muslims are very reluctant to try to explain, as it is obviously and impossibly wrong - and impossible to “explain” away in any believable manner. We know from old astronomy that the moon and the planets were fastened to different heavens, and that means that the stars have to be between us and the moon (the Quran another place also says that the moon is between the heavens) - at less than some 384ooo km distance - as the stars were fastened to the lowest heaven (37/6-7, 41/12). In addition to all the other impossibilities, humans would not be even crisps in a millisecond. Once more: Any existing god knew this, Muhammad not. Contradicted by almost anything – except as said: Not by fairy tales. Is Allah non-existing? Or who composed the Quran - on basis of among other stories fairy-tales?

      297 41/15f: "- - - Allah, Who created them (people*) - - -". This interesting, but never proved claim surfaces a number of times in the Quran - interesting because Allah never was able to prove he was able to create anything at all, whereas Yahweh/Jesus proved this many times if either the Bible or the Quran tells the truth on this point. Also see 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c+e above.

      298 41/21b: "He (Allah*) created you (people*)- - -". See 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c and 41/15f above.

      299 41/39c: “He (Allah*) Who gives life to the (dead) earth (by sending rain*)”. Earth which comes alive just by adding water, is not dead - only looks like that. It is alive with seeds and perhaps roots - hibernating only.

      300 41/39d: "- - - We (Allah*) send down rain - - -". Allah - or some-one else - or nature? See 11/7a above.

      301 41/39g: "Truly, He (Allah*) Who gives life to the (dead) earth can surely give life to (men) who are dead". See 7/158i above.

      #302 41/39h: "Truly, He (Allah*) Who gives life to the (dead) earth can surely give life to (men) who are dead". You have to have a lot of blind belief to believe in this - the two things compared are incommensurable (= they cannot be compared). The difference between making seeds grow because of water and resurrection of something which really is dead, is too fundamental for comparison. Invalid both argument and logic - and one of the cases where an intelligent man like Muhammad had to know that the logic, and thus everything in the argument, was invalid.

      303 42/9c: "- - - Allah - - - it is He Who gives life to the dead". This very interesting claim surfaces several places in the Quran - interesting because it never is anything but words, as Allah never proved this (or anything else of any consequence), whereas Yahweh and his men proved it time and again if the Bible and/or the Quran are/is correct. See 7/158i and 5/110d above.

      304 42/11a: "(He Allah') is) the Creator of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth". Often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere. See 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      305 42/29b: "- - - the creation (by Allah*) of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth". Often claimed, never proved. See 11/7a and 21/56c+e above.

      306 42/49c: "He (Allah*) creates - - -". See 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      307 42/49d: "He (Allah*) creates what He wills - - -". Perhaps there was a reason why he wanted a son, and then he "creates what He wills". The argument used in the Quran at least one place, that he could have no son because he had no consort, is thus invalid (and perhaps wrong - remember the very old information about an "Amat").

      308 42/49e: "He (Allah*) creates what He wills - - -". This is one of the Quran's more interesting claims - as normal for Muhammad and the Quran never documented - interesting just because neither Allah nor Muhammad ever was able to prove anything, neither about his power for creation nor about his power for recreation, whereas Yahweh proved a lot, it either the Bible or the Quran tells the truth on this point.

      *309 43/10a: “(Allah*) has made for you the earth - - -". See 11/7a, 21/56c, 41/15f above and 65/12 below.

      *310 43/10b: “(Allah*) has made for you the earth (like a carpet), spread out - - -”. The Quran many places says the Earth is flat - (it was such a matter of course, that it never is mentioned explicitly, but it always is compared to something flat) - perhaps round like a disk, but flat - - - like a carpet. Wrong.

      *311 43/10c: “- - - and (Allah*) has made for you roads - - -”. We have never heard about a road made by a god, except perhaps in fairy tales. The paths/roads in Arabia were so old, that no-one remembered the start of them, and then Muhammad could tell things like this. But it is obviously not true. Similar claim in 16/15. Just for the record: This - like so much more in the Quran - is not from the Bible.

      312 43/11c: “- - - We (Allah*) rise to life therewith (with rain*) a land that is dead - - -.” Wrong. If water is all it takes, the land only looks dead – it is alive with seeds and roots. Hibernating, not dead. Any god knows.

      313 43/11d: “- - - We (Allah*) rise to life therewith (with rain*) a land that is dead; even so will ye be raised (from the dead) - - -”. The comparison is wrong - and a god had known it. In the first case the DNA (the "molecules of life") is alive and well and ready to sprout. In a dead body everything is finished - also the DNA and all its possibility to go against entropy (a term from physics which can be said to be a measure for chaos and states of energy). There is critical difference in that. But then the Quran has a strong tendency to give Allah credit without any documentation for natural occurrences. Also see 2/164 – 7/57 – 35/9 – 41/39 – 43/11 - 45/5. As for Allah and creation also see 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c and not least 41/15f above, and for resurrection see 7/158i and 5/110d above.

      *314 43/12a: "- - - (Allah*) created pairs in all things - - -”. Very wrong. This only goes for multi-cellular beings, and far from for all of them. And it goes not at all for uni-cellular beings and most plans (most plants have both male and female parts on the same plant, even mostly in the same flower) - and they exist in a by far larger number, both in quantity and species. Any god knew this - Muhammad not. Who made the Quran?

      Also see f.x. 11/7a above.

      *315 43/12b: "- - - (Allah*) created - - - all things - - -”. This interesting claim you find several places in the Quran - interesting because neither Muhammad nor Allah ever was able to prove one millimeter of this claim, whereas Yahweh proved his power both for creation and recreation - - - if either the Quran or the Bible tells the truth on this point (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Matt. 27/52, Mark 5/41, Luke 7/15, John 11/44, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10, and the Quran 3/49b, 5/110i).

      Also see f.x. 11/7a above.

      316 43/12e: "(Allah*) has made for you (humans*) - - - cattle - - -". See 11/7a above.

      317 43/27a: "- - - Him (Allah*) who made me (Abraham*) - - -". This interesting claim that Allah created the humans you meet many places in the Quran. The reason why it is interesting, is that neither Muhammad nor Allah ever was able to prove anything about creation, whereas Yahweh proved his power on that point many times - if either the Quran or the Bible tells the truth about just that (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Matt. 27/52, Mark 5/41, Luke 7/15, John 11/44, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10, and the Quran 3/49b, 5/110i).

      Also Islam's claimed contact with Abraham and other person from the very old time is interesting, because neither Islam nor science has found any traces from a religion like Islam, a god like Allah, or a book like the Quran older than 610 AD, when Muhammad started his mission.

      318 44/8b: "- - - it is He (Allah*) Who gives life and death - - -". That Allah and his Muslims give death is neither new nor unknown. But that he gives life is an interesting claim repeated several places in the Quran - interesting because there is no proof for the claim, only never documented claims and words. Whereas Yahweh proved his power on this point several times if the Bible and/or the Quran tell(s) the truth on this point.

      319 44/38a: "We (Allah*) created not the heavens (plural and wrong*), the earth, and all between them, merely in (idle) sport". There is nowhere proved he did so for any other reason, too.

      320 45/4a: "And in the creation of yourself, and the fact that animals are scattered (throughout the earth), are signs for those of assured Faith". But the claimed signs in case have no relevance to Allah unless it first is proved that they really are caused by Allah. As it is, any believer in any religion can do just the same as Muhammad: Claim it for glorification and indication of his/her god(s) - totally free of charge, but also totally without real value as indication or proof, as long as it is not proved the god really causes it. After all "a proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion".

      Also see 11/7a above.

      321 45/4b: "- - - creation - - -". There often are claims in the Quran about Allah creating things and living beings, but there never is anything but words, and words are cheap. The situation is extra interesting because if either the Bible or the Quran tells the truth at this point, Yahweh on the other hand, proved his power here.

      322 45/5f: “(Allah*) revives thereafter the earth after its death (by sending rain*) - - -”. One thing is that the Quran in no way proves that it is Allah who sends the rain - the book has a strong tendency to give Allah credit without any documentation for natural occurrences. But: If earth comes alive just because of water, it was not dead - it only looked like that.

      Also see 11/7a above

      323 45/26b: "It is Allah who gives you (persons*) life - - -". See 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56d above.

      324 46/3a: ”We (Allah*) created - - -". Often claimed, never proved - extra interesting because if the Quran and/or the Bible tell(s) the truth on this point, Yahweh proved his ability to create. Also see 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c, 41/15f above.

      325 46/3b: ”We (Allah*) created not the heavens and the earth and all between them (for no reason*)- - -". See 46/3a just above.

      326 46/4c: "Show me (Muhammad*) what it is they (pagan gods*) have created on earth, or have they a share in the heavens (plural and wrong*)?". And show us something Allah clearly has created on Earth - facts, not just lose claims. And has Allah really a share in Heaven - please proofs, not just strong, but cheap and invalid words. Muhammad always claimed proofs from others, so it is clear proofs are valuable - but he never was able to prove anything himself. (When Muslims claim it is primitive or something similar to ask for proofs for the Quran and Allah, just remind them that Muhammad frequently asked for - demanded - proofs from everyone else. Primitive?)

      327 46/33a: "- - - Allah, who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved. See f.x. 11/7a, 21/56c+e, 41/15f and 45/22a+b above.

      328 46/33c: "- - - Allah - - - is able to give life to the dead - - -". See 7/158i above.

      329 50/6a: "- - - how We (Allah*) have made it (the sky*) - - -". One of the very many natural phenomena Muhammad claims for glorification and documentation of his god - like so many priests in so many religions. Totally invalid as long as it is not proved that it really was Allah who created it - he has not even proved his own existence, something at least Yahweh has done if either the Bible or the Quran tells the truth at this point.

      Also see 11/7a above.

      330 50/6b: "- - - and adorned it (the sky*) - - -". From other places in the Quran we know that Allah has adorned the sky by fastening the stars to the lowest heaven (37/6-7, 41/12). No comment - and none necessary. Also see 11/7a above and 65/12b below.

      50/9b: "- - - We (Allah*) produce therewith (the rain*) gardens and grains - - -". Everything on Earth is mad by Allah, according to the Quran. What about nature? - does it make nothing? See 11/7a above.

      331 50/10: "And (Allah makes*) tall (and stately) palm-trees (etc.*) - - -". See 11/7b and 50/9b above.

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      332 50/11c: “- - - and We (Allah*) give (new) life therewith (with water*) to land that is dead - - -”. Land which comes alive just with water is not dead - it is alive with seeds and perhaps roots. Just hibernating, not dead. Also see 11/7a above.

      333 50/15a: "- - - first Creation - - - second Creation - - -". These claims from the Quran are quite interesting, as Muhammad never was able to prove anything about Allah, included his claimed power to create and recreate. This fact is extra interesting, as Yahweh proved he had the power, if the Bible and/or the Quran tell(s) the truth on this point.

      334 50/15b: "- - - new creation - - -". According to the Quran: The recreation of the dead and disintegrated bodies to remake the same bodies - but as young adults (at least for adults) - for the next life.

      335 50/16a: "It was We (Allah*) who created man - - -". See f.x. 6/2b and 11/7a above.

      336 50/16d: "- - - We (Allah*) are nearer to him (man*) than (his) jugular vein". One of the many, many never proved claims in the Quran. And once more: Why then 2/233h above?

      *337 50/38a: “We (Allah*) created - - -". Often claimed, newer proved. See 11/7a and 21/56c above.

      338 50/43b: "Verily it is We (Allah*) Who give Life and Death - - -". Definitely no proved verity or truth. Definitely - never even one valid proof. See f.x. 6/2b 7/158, 11/7a, 21/56b, and 50/6a above.

      339 51/47a: "- - - We (Allah*) construct(ed*) the Firmament - - -". The fact that it is very wrongly described in the Quran, proves that something is wrong here: A constructor knows how his construction is constructed. Also see 11/7a above.

      ####340 51/47c: “- - - it is We (Allah*) Who created the vastness of space.” Here is a point which should be checked: According to one of our sources, the word which is used in Arab is “samaa” which is said to mean “sky”, whereas the Arab word for “universe” or “space” is said to be “al-kawn”. We have till now been unable to check this for sure, but mention it because such dishonesty tells so very much about Islam and honesty, and about Islam and Muslims even today if it is true, and our source is quite reliable – whereas we find half truths or cases of al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) too often in Islamic media/books (though we had originally not expected it from a man like Yusuf Ali). Our source also is strengthened by the fact that Muhammad Asad (A51/30) admits that the literal meaning of the Arab texts is "the sky" - see 51/47d just below - so it seems to be true that the translation of the Quran here is falsified - a corruption of the quranic texts.

      Sources we reckon to be reliable, also ###say that the Arab word for universe in the modern meaning, (al-kawn), is not at all used in the entire Quran. Also see 51/47d just below.)

      341 51/56a: “I (Allah*) have only created jinns - - -". But are jinns really created? They have never ever provably manifested themselves in any way, and they after all just are beings borrowed from old Arab folklore, fairy tales, and pagan religion, and were not to be found other places than in and around Arabia (well, you have djinnies in old Israel, but only in folklore and fairy tales, not in the Bible) - an Arabism.

      It is a reason for thinking that Muhammad uses Jinns as a proof for the existence of Allah, as the only places they are proved to "exist", are in old folklore, fairy tales, and old pagan religion. They also according to science of religion are a special kind of beings (the word often is translated with "spirits", but spirits are pure mental beings, whereas jinns are made from smoke, and thus at least partly physical (smoke is tiny material particle floating in a mixture of - material - gases)) which one in the old times only found in and around Arabia. A strange choice for a god for all the world, a pretty natural choice for Muhammad, who took most of his tales in the Quran from his surroundings, and mostly without checking if they were true. (With a rich wife it f.x. had not been too difficult for him to get hold of a Bible, or at least a copy of the old Jewish scriptures and check what that book really said. But he did not bother - to claim that the Bible was falsified, was easier.

      342 51/56b: “I (Allah*) have only created jinns and men, that they may serve Me.” But:

      1. 7/179: “Many are the Jinns and men We (Allah*) have made for hell”.

       

      A small(?) contradiction. And what does 7/179 tell about Allah?

      343 53/32h: "- - - He (Allah*) brings you (persons*) out of the earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved. And also contradicted by the Bible, which says it is Yahweh who does this, not Allah. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words, like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

      344 53/44: "- - - it is He (Allah*) who granteth death and life - - -". Often claimed, but never proved anywhere (in contrast to Yahweh who via Jesus and others - if the Bible and/or the Quran tell(s) the truth - several times proved he was able to give the dead ones life (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Matt.9/25, Matt. 27/52, Luke 7/15, John 11/44, 9/40, Acts 20/10,- and of course Jesus himself, and the Quran 3/49b, 5/110i above.

      345 54/49b: "Verily, all things We (Allah*) created - - -". See 6/1e, 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c and 41/15f above.

      346 54/50: "And Our (Allah's*) Command (when creating*) is but a single (act) - - -". But an act never proved - see the same as under 54/49b just above. Besides: If this claim is true, the god would have no problem creating Jesus - a son. Not to mention creating his rule on Earth, without the necessity of raids and wars like the Quran glorifies.

      ##347 55/3: “He (Allah*) has created man”. At least not like told in the Quran - see 6/2b above. Besides man was not created according to science - he developed from an earlier primate. If Islam says he was created, they will have to prove it. And if they claim the creation was like described in the Quran, they will have to produce even stronger proof - - - after they first have found out which of the claimed may be 13 different ways described is the correct one.

      348 55/7a: "And the Firmament has He (Allah*) raised high - - -". Wrong: The firmament has never been raised - at least not "raised high" from the Earth.

      349 55/10a: “It is He (Allah*) who has spread out the earth - - -”. See 11/7a above.

      350 56/35-37c: “We (Allah*) have created (their (Muslims*) Companions) of special creation. And made them (houris*) virgin-pure (and undefiled) – Beloved (by nature), equal in age - - -”. Try to find anything - anything - even remotely like this, or other hints of sex, not to mention abundance of sex and big harems, in the Bible's Paradise. Just go on and see what you find. Yahweh and Allah the same god with so bottomless different Paradises? No answer is necessary - the reality is too obvious. And to try to explain away the differences by claims about falsification of the Bible, is at least a century too late - both science and Islam has thoroughly proved that there are not falsifications in the Bible (by being unable to find one single proved case in tens of thousands of relevant manuscripts, and by being unable even to give a credible explanation of how it should be physically possible to make identical falsifications in so many old papers spread over such wide areas - and without even leaving traces possible for modern science to detect). Another absolute proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

      351 56/57a: "It is We (Allah*) Who have created you (humans*) - - -". See 6/2b, 11/7a,21/56c and 41/15f above.

      352 56/62b: "- - - the first form of creation: why then do ye not celebrate His (Allah's*) praises?" What here indirectly is said, is that Allah created everything, included you. See 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c+e and 41/15f above. The reason why we do not celebrate Allah's praises for that, is that it is unlikely in the far extreme that Allah did the creation - yes, even that he exists.

      353 56/64a: "Is it ye (humans*) who cause it (seeds*) to grow, or are We (Allah*) the cause?". If Allah is the cause, he at least never has proved it - one of the many, many natural phenomena Muhammad claims for glorification and indication of his god, but always - always - without proving that it really is Allah who does it. Totally invalid as glorification. Totally invalid as indication or proof. See 11/7a above.

      Also this is the psychology of rhetorical (leading questions - a rhetorical question leading up to an expected "Allah" as an answer - Muhammad understood people. But yes: So much is wrong, etc. in the Quran, that it is clear there is no god behind it. Muhammad does not get the answer he tried to pressure from us (and all others). There is no doubt that Islam is a made up religion.

      Also (we quote): "'Surely' (etc.*) and rhetorical questions - whenever you encounter these in a text, stop and think. The author usually wants you to skate over them as if the claim is so obvious as to be beyond doubt, or the answer self-evident. The opposite is often the case." (Graham Lawton.) Try to count such cases in the Quran - they are MANY. Especially the never proved claim "the Truth" and similar are very often used.

      354 56/73: "We (Allah*) have made it - - -". Often claimed, never proved.

      355 57/2d: "- - - it is He (Allah*) Who gives life and Death - - -". An interesting claim, as Allah and Muhammad and Islam never were able to prove this - it only is lose words - whereas if the Bible and/or the Quran tell(s) the truth at this point, Yahweh have proved it many times (f.x. Matt.9/18-25, Luke 7/12-15, John 11/39-43 - and of course Jesus himself - and there are more, included in the Quran).

      *356 57/4a: "He (Allah*) it is who created the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth - - -”. Often claimed, never proved.

      357 57/4b: “He (Allah*) it is who created the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth in six days - - -”. It is not possible to doubt that Muhammad/the Quran means that it all took 6 or 8 days (contradiction). Wrong. It in reality took billions of years.

      But of course Islam is free to prove - prove - that science is wrong and the Quran right.

      358 57/17a: "Know ye (people*) (all) that Allah giveth life to the earth after its death". An interesting - and as normal for the Quran not proved - claim, as Allah has never proved his power over life and death. Lots of claims, but never a clear proof. Not over life and death, not over anything at all, yes, not even his own existence. Whereas Yahweh has sent a lot of proofs, if either the Quran or the Bible or both tell(s) the truth on these points. Especially interesting as both the Quran's never proved claim that Yahweh and Allah is the same god, and it’s never proved claim that the Bible is falsified, both are proved wrong.

      An extra point here is that this picture refers to rain making the desert blossom. But a desert which blossoms after rain, was not dead, it only looked dead. Hibernating only, and there is an extreme difference between hibernating and dead.

      359 58/6b: "On that Day Allah will raise them (the dead*) all up (again) - - -. Contradicted by the Bible, which claims this will be done by Yahweh, not by Allah. Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

      360 59/24a: "He is Allah, the Creator - - -". See 11/7a, 21/56c and 41/15f above.

      361 64/2a: “- - - it is He (Allah*) Who has created you - - -”. According to science man was not created, but evolved from an earlier primate. At least man cannot have been created in any of the 13 different ways in which the Quran tells the single person Adam was created - see 6/2 + 38/75 + 55/3 and more. Finally: Islam and the Quran only offers a claim that any religion and any person can make for any god they like, as long as they have to prove nothing. Lose claims without proofs can be the basis for belief - even for strong belief - but they are without value as basis for knowledge, as long as they are not proved. This especially is so as it is an extremely serious matter if there really is a god somewhere, and this god is not Allah. If the god is not Allah, and at the same time Muslims have been denied the possibility to search for this possible real god, by blind belief forced on them by unproved claims anyone can use free of charge about their imagining god(s), and by glorification of blind belief - well, then they are in for a rude waking up if there is a next life.

      362 64/3a: “He (Allah*) has created heavens (plural and wrong*) and earth in just proportions”. Often claimed, never proved. Besides: Did he just say that what nature had made, were the just proportions? Also see 11/7a above.

      ##363 65/12a: “Allah is He Who created seven Firmaments - - -”. Firmament is another name for the heaven as we see it - mostly used about the night sky. The Quran so many places states there are 7 heavens or firmaments or tracts or just heavens in plural, referring to the claimed 7 heavens, that there is no doubt about what it means. It is totally wrong, though. (Even if Muslims try to explain it away with 7 layers in the atmosphere or diffuse arguments about the space as we know it today or statements about it being an allegory - the standard last resort for Muslims for explaining or "explaining" things that are impossible to explain - even though it very clearly is no allegory (clear at least to anyone not full of wishful thinking or religious inhibitions).

      You find these claims about 7 heavens/firmaments/tracts in f.x. 2/29d+e, 17/44a, 23/17a, 23/86a, 41/12a+b, 65/12a, 67/3a+b, and 71/15a+b - all together the Quran mentions "heavens" in plural at least 199 times; there is no doubt the Quran means there are 7 heavens (and as the stars are fastened to the lowermost of them - f.x. 67/5a - they have to be material ones - if not the stars could not be fastened to it). In 67/3 you also are told they are placed one above the other, which means they of course are built successively higher above the Earth - which also is clear from most places in the Quran where the places of the heavens are indicated. Some modern Muslims try to place the heavens in space, deep space included. But among others 67/3 prohibits this, as "up" and "down" ("one above the other") has no meaning as part of the real space. Also humans recreated in body would be unable to breath in space.

      By the way: 67/12b also claims there are 7 Earths, and gives their names according to Islam.

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      364 65/12b: “Allah is He Who created seven Firmaments (wrong*) ########and of the earth a similar number”. According to Hadith the last part means 7 separate Earths - one above the other. According to Muhammad Ibn ‘Abd Allah al-Kisa’I the last part means 7 layers down in the Earth according to one “explanation” (an "explanation which is impossible, as the claimed Earths are populated, and nobody can live and move around deep down in solid stone, enormous pressure, and hundreds or a few thousand centigrade - a typical Islamic "explanation: One "explains" one aspect of a problem, without remembering/seeing that other aspects make the "explanation" impossible.). But what the Quran really says, is 7 Earths – 7 flat Earths. No matter if you believe the Quran/Hadith or one of the “explanations” for this somewhat special geology/geography/astronomy, the names of the 7 heavens and the 7 “Earths” from top and down are:

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      THE SKY ACCORDING TO GREEK ASTRONOMY

      Earth - Tellus (or Terra) - was in the center. Over were 7 rotating spheres made of an ethereal, a transparent fifth element (quintessence), in which the planets, the sun and the moon were embedded - like jewels in orbs. And outside - in a similar sphere - all the fixed stars were set in an outer such shell.

      Actually it is not 100% correct to say that Muhammad told everything about the heavens according to the astronomy of that time. If we remember our Greek astronomy correctly, it was like this:

      1. The outer layer or ceiling: The stars.
      2. The 7. Heaven Saturn.
      3. The 6. Heaven Jupiter.
      4. The 5. heaven Mars.
      5. The 4. Heaven The Sun.
      6. The 3. Heaven Venus.
      7. The 2. Heaven Mercury.
      8. The 1. Heaven The Moon.

       

      The outer layer some "astronomers" reckoned to be the 8. heaven. We stress that you may find old "charts" with a somewhat different sequence of the heavenly bodies. But as far as we have found Islam is the only one with the stars fixed to this 1. Heaven.

      The calculated distance from Earth to the edge of the universe: 73 million miles/117 million km. This was the accepted distance until reasonably modern times. Something to remember when Muslims want Muhammad/the Quran to have talked about the universe in modern meaning (the Arab word for such a universe is at all not used in the Quran.

      NB: Mercury some places has fallen out from our lists published before 2014.

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      "ASTRONOMY" AND "GROGRAPHY" IN THE QURAN

      a. THE QURAN'S UNIVERSE. 7 HEAVENS, 7 EARTHS, AND HELL.

      According to the Quran the “everything” is like this:

      On top of all - above the 7. heaven - Allah has his residence.

      Seven heavens above the Earth – one on top of the other. They have names, guardian angel, and gates.

      The heavens are resting on the Earth by means of invisible pillars.

      In between the heavens are the sun (?) and the moon.

      The sun is a flat disk (if not it cannot be folded up like it does at the Day of Doom).

      The 7 heavens contain Paradise - the higher heavens are for top Muslims.

      The lower heaven is for "normal good" Muslims - split in at least 4 or 6 gardens = 4 or 6 qualities.

      Under heavens, and fastened to the lowest (37/6-7, 41/12) one, are all the stars.

      Allah often uses stars as shooting stars to chase away jinns and bad spirits spying on Heaven.

      Under the heavens and stars are clouds – which Allah sometimes breaks to pieces (rain).

      Under that the birds are kept up there by the will of Allah only.

      On the Earth mountains are set down - or really dropped down.

      The reason why Allah has set down mountains on Earth is to stabilize it - if not it can start wobbling and tip over (This is the Quran's real meaning).

      (Modern Muslims claims the mountains are set down to reduce earthquakes - but mountains do not reduce earthquakes (on the contrary sometimes)).

      According to Hadiths 2 of the rivers on Earth starts in Heaven - the Nile and Euphrates.

      Earth was – according to the Quran - created together with the heavens from something like smoke which Allah ordered to come together to one mass and then he split asunder. One part became our flat Earth (or really "earths" as there are 7 (65/12) – one on top of the other according to Hadiths) and the other became heaven, or actually the 7 material heavens which lies above Earth. (For more about this, see the about the creation of heaven).

      On the Earth also all kinds of beings live – created from clay or something or nothing.

      Man - Adam - is created in 13 different ways if you count exactly and strictly (5 - 7 if you are kind-hearted towards Islam).

      All this is existing or living on our flat Earth.

      There are 7 earths - according to Hadiths the others are under "our" Earth.

      According to Hadiths Islam knows the names of the 7 earths - and the name of their people.

      Underneath everything is Hell

       

      (we have not found out for sure if it is situated in the world Ajiba).

      The lower the earth the more Hell-like is the situation for its inhabitants, Hadiths tell.

      And at the bottom Hell (?)

       

      All this (possibly with the exception of Paradise and Hell) was created in 6 - or 8 - days.

      That it took 6 days, is mentioned at least in 10/3 – 11/7 – 25/59 – 32/4 – 50/38 - 57/4. But science tells a very different story.

      Just like your teacher of geography told you? And who created this nonsense?

      ##(YA5570):"He (Allah*) Who creates must necessarily know His own handiwork". This is very correct, so when the Quran shows that the maker of that book clearly do not know the reality, it is a strong proof for that something is very wrong somewhere.

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      THE 7 HEAVENS, THE GUARDIAN ANGEL OF EACH, AND IT'S GATE, ACCORDING TO ISLAM

      1. 7.Gharibya, angel Razquel, gate made from shining light.
      2. 6.Rafqa, angel Shamkhael, gate made from white pearl.
      3. 5.Ratqa, angel Kalkael, gate made from gold.
      4. 4.Arqlun, angel Salsael, gate made from silver.
      5. 3.Aun, angel Saadiel, gate made from topaz.
      6. 2.Faydum, angel Michael, gate made from ruby.
      7. 1.Birqi, angel Ismael, gate made from emerald.

       

      There are different lists - names and details seems to be not very clear. This list is from A. Bishkow (the floor material listed in () are from another list:

      1. Name: Floor from: Characteristics:
      2. 7.Hariba Shining light Paradise and Hell both are placed here (NB!).
      3. 6.Giyas Shining ruby Here the original of the Kabah mosque is situated. Some angel’s baby (or white pearls) face, others with horse heads, with sword and spear, riding horses.
      4. 5.Dalva Red gold Angels beautiful like permanent virgin angels.
      5. 4.Maus Pearl (or silver) Horses, and angels with 70ooo wings (= hopeless turbulence when trying to fly).

      6. 3.Gudum Ruby (or topaz) Some angels have eagle faces, others cow head, bright and shiny eyes.
      7. 2.Afnus Silver (or ruby) Angels like griffins (= eagle head, lion body, dragon wings).
      8. 1.Barakiyya Green emerald Angels like persons with body like cows and eagle wings. They have 70ooo heads and horns. (Must be very big for place for that many heads + do the heads cooperate? - if they think in unison; why so many?

         

        The 7 heavens were Greek and Persian astronomy. One observed 7 movements on the firmament - the sun and the moon, plus Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn (the other planets were not visible to the naked eye) - and thus needed 7 invisible heavens to fasten them to, to explain why they did not fall down on Earth. And outside were the so-called "fixed" stars fixed a separate shell). Any - any - god had known better. Then who made the Quran?

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        c. THE QURAN'S PARADISE

        We have chosen to give a detailed description of the Muslim Paradise, partly because eternity is a long time for staying in one place, and partly to give a full picture. It mainly is like Earth at the time and area of Muhammad in and around Arabia, but with more water and willing and obedient beautiful women, handsome young servants, and a life like the high nobility as seen through the eyes and dreams of young and not so young, but virile, primitive, uneducated and naïve warriors – male warriors of course.

        Is this really the best paradise an omniscient, omnipotent god can make? Or is it someone playing on primitive, uneducated and naïve virile men’s secret dreams about riches and women? “Tell a lie often enough, and people start believing” – Joseph Goebbels.

        To make a summary:

        1. Allah lives above the topmost heaven.
        2. There are 7 heavens - one on top of the other.
        3. The heavens are material ones (if not it was not possible to fix the stars to the lowermost of them, or for resurrected Muslims to live and walk on them).
        4. There may be light enough and heath enough also in heaven, as the moon and the sun are between the heavens according to Hadiths (the moon also according to the Quran - it is not clearly said for the sun).
        5. Paradise is in these heavens above us on our flat Earth, and the one for normal good Muslims seems to be situated in the first heaven, as the higher heavens are for more deserving persons than normal Muslims. (There exist other descriptions.)
        6. The higher heavens as mentioned are for the special Muslims - prophets and other extra people (what about their families who do not personally deserve a higher heaven?). The better quality Muslim you are, the higher heaven you end in. Jesus f.x. is in 2. heaven – he in reality is the main competitor to Muhammad, and had to be reduced by giving him place in a low heaven to reduce him as a prophet. On the other end of the scale is the veneered Abraham in 7. heaven – a heaven he will have to share with Muhammad after the Day of Doom. It is said nothing about how the heavens were populated at the time of Muhammad's trip to the heavens - the Quran teaches that the dead has to wait till the Day of Doom for resurrection, but all the same both Hell and the heavens were populated when Muhammad visited the heavens and when he was shown the Hell. A clear contradiction (though this is not all mentioned in the Quran, only in Hadiths).The higher up the better as that meant closer to Allah - there are classes also in Paradise in Islam.
        7. Normal good Muslims end in the lower heaven. (There exist other explanations.)
        8. This in case seems to be the same heaven as all the stars are fastened to, and from where some of the stars are used for shooting stars to chase away Jinns/bad spirits wanting to spy on heaven. Though how to spy on Allah and his angels above 7. heaven, when jinn and other spies were below even the 1. heaven? (According to some Greek astronomers: From Earth to the edge of the universe: 73 million miles/117 million km - from 1. heaven it should be a bit less).
        9. These parts of the Paradise are subdivided with standards according to how good and eager a Muslim you have been - 4 or 6 or more different gardens. (This is not much mentioned in the Quran, but is clear from the Hadiths – f.x. Al-Bukhari).
        10. There are possibilities for communication between humans in Paradise and in Hell – perhaps along the rim of the hemispheres making the heavens? – as Hell seems to be lying under the flat 7 Earths, that is a possibility.
        11. At the Day of Doom the humans are split in 3 groups (some Hadiths only mention 2), and the deserving 2 best groups ends one in an excellent part Paradise - and the best in extra excellent parts.
        12. Mainly Muslims end in Paradise, but a few Jews and Christians with strong belief and an excellent moral life, have a chance, according to at least some verses in the Quran. There also may be an opening for others who never had heard about Allah. (Because Allah is reluctant to punish people who did not know they did wrong.)
        13. In Paradise you live in huge mansions.
        14. And outside you preside on imposing thrones – endless rows of them – or relax on pillows lying on carpets.
        15. Paradise seems to be constructed for people from a hot, dry country, with much emphasize on shade and water. According to Hadith 2 rivers on Earth – the Nile and the Euphrates – starts in Paradise, believe it or not.
        16. There are plenty of trees – hence some of the shade – included rich fruit trees.
        17. People are resurrected for Paradise (and for Hell) in body, not only in soul (necessary as most of the pleasures in the Quran's and Islam's Paradise are bodily ones - ne f the many proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god).
        18. It is likely, but not absolutely sure, that all are resurrected like young adults.
        19. Clothes are very rich in Paradise – the same are personal ornaments. Something like a king’s regal outfit on Earth.
        20. Also the food is excellent. Especially plenty of fruits are often mentioned, but also plenty of meat. It is made clear that the food is more or less the same as on Earth, but in plenty and in high quality. Also in this way life is like on Earth – but like a king on Earth.
        21. Also what you drink is the same like on Earth, only better quality,. This includes wine (but a not intoxicating variety – or in the early surahs perhaps only not giving you a bad “day after”).
        22. One convenience is that according to Hadiths you never need a toilet, even after all that good food and drink.
        23. Everybody is served and served on by an army of young attractive boys or men. The Quran gives no name and also no information on where they come from or how they like their position in Paradise.
        24. Everybody – at least the men - have their parents, wives and children around them if these qualified for Paradise – which makes it clear that the Paradise must be inhabited by enormous clans, as the sons of the sons of the sons in hundreds of generations slowly add up, and all are promised to have their parents and wives and children around them (as for children, it mainly must go for sons, as the daughters mostly end up as the wife of someone in another clan, or another part of the same clan.
        25. Then there are the famous houris – in reality sex slaves for virile men. Hadiths tells that a really good (warrior) Muslim can have up to 72 of them. Nothing is said about how the men’s wives like this competition. But then Islam is a religion for the adult man, and women and what they like counts little. Nothing is said about what the houris are, where they come from or how they like this Paradise – not to mention how they like to serve and be playthings of rough, uneducated and sometimes worse warriors. Is it really a Paradise for them? The question seems to be of no interest neither to the Quran, nor to Islam, nor to Muslim men or scholars.
        26. There is said very little about women in Paradise, except it is clear they belong to the men's family and harem (together with the houris - but it is the houris who are the main attraction in the Quran). Also Paradise is a man's world in the Quran.

        27. A big and not answered question is how Abraham and the others already could have got their place in Paradise when Muhammad visited it, as the Day of Doom has not yet appeared.

         

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        THE SUN AND THE MOON

        The sun is created by Allah. It is not clearly said, but from the contexts it is clear it moves between the (7) heavens. It orbits over the flat Earth once a day, and arrives at a not further described resting-place in the night. It is a flat disk (if not it could not be folded up at the Day of Doom, like the Quran tells).

        The moon also is created by Allah, naturally. The Quran states that it orbits among the heavens. this means that at least one heaven is below the moon (if not the moon could not be "among" them). As the Quran also tells that the stars are fixed to the lowest heaven, this means that according to the Quran, the stars are below the moon. If this had been true, for one thing this part of space had been very crowded, and for another that Earth had been very hot.

        You will meet Muslims claiming that the fact that the sun and the moon are differently described in the Quran, proves that Muhammad knew one was a star and the other just a chunk of stone shining with borrowed light - some even try to claim he knew it was light reflected from the sun (this even though no word meaning "reflecting" or similar is used in the entire Arab Quran).

        This is nonsense. The normal person not seeing and feeling that the sun and the moon are very different, is not born yet. Muhammad described them differently for the very simple reason that he easily both saw and felt that they were very different. But Muslim "miracle hunters" - also called "miracle scholars" is unbelievable in their disuse of facts, of texts, and of logic. But as unbelievable: Many Muslims believe in some or all their claimed "miracles" - in spite of that Muhammad himself in the Quran tells he just was an ordinary man without any supernatural powers, and thus able to make neither foretelling nor miracles.

        The ironic fact is that each time a "miracle scholar" - or a normal Muslim or a mullah or whatever - tells that Muhammad made foretelling/prophesies or miracles, he/she at the same time indirectly but clearly tells that Muhammad and the Quran lies when telling that Muhammad was unable to make supernatural things.

        Well, it is nice of them to confirm there are lies in the Quran.

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        THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE HEAVENS.

        A4-

         

        73/20k: "- - - ye (Muslims*) shall find it in Allah's Presence (= in Paradise) - - -". But what is really "Allah's presence"? There are 7 heavens and Allah lives above number seven - both claims according to the Quran. It is not specified in the Quran, but it seems normally good Muslims end in gardens in the first heaven. This means there are 6 heavens between them and Allah. The Quran also does not specify the distance between the heavens, but relevant Islamic literature mention 100 years (of travel).

        A normal speed for a walker is some 3.5 - 4 miles/6 km an hour. Say you walked together with a caravan, which walked for 12 hours a day (the main thing for a caravan is to reach its goal and make money, so they often walked from dawn till dusk, and even ate when walking).

        1. That would mean 45 miles (some 72 km) a day.
        2. There are 365 days a year = some 16.400 miles (some 26.300 km) a year.
        3. As there are said to be 100 years between the heavens, this means some 1.64 million miles (2.63 million km) between the heavens.
        4. And the distance between the 1. and the 7. heaven consequently a little less than 10 million miles (a bit less than 16 million km).
        5. Better than 40 times the distance to the moon.
        6. And remember that Allah lives above the 7. heaven = even further off further off.
        7. (And the distance from Earth to Allah is the same plus the distance from Earth to the lowest heaven. If the first and the last distance is similar to the ones between the heavens, we end up with something like 13 million miles/21 million km between Earth and Allah, and Allah sitting somewhere well on his way to Venus or Mars.)
        8. Not just "in Allah's Presence" neither for the normal good Muslims in the first Paradise, nor for the Muslims on Earth.
        9. Better than 40 times the distance to the moon. And this is the distance between the heavens. The distance between Earth/humans and Allah is more.

       

      #######################If the Islamic books have given reasonably correct information about the distances, this is a rough picture of what the Quran means with "Allah's Presence" for normal Muslims in Paradise.

      We remind you that some old astronomers in Greece had calculated the distance to the end of the universe, represented by the fixed stars, to some 73 million mile/117 million km. If the distances from Earth to the lowest heaven, the distance between the heavens, and the distance from there to the outer shall Greek astronomers reckoned for fastening the fixed stars to (they thought the fixed stars were outside the heavens), this means that the distance between the heavens were roughly 9 million miles/15 million km. Still plenty of space for Allah. But difficult to spy from below the first heaven.

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      f. THE STARS FASTENED TO THE LOWEST HEAVEN

      37/7, 41/12, and 67/5 all tell that the stars are fastened to the lowest heaven.

      (A67/5 – omitted in 2008 edition): “We (Allah*) have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven (out of the 7 the Quran frequently tells about, and which Muhammad even visited*) with lamps (stars*), and We have made such (lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones - - -.” But the disagreement concerns: Is it the stones in the shooting stars that chase jinns, etc. away? – the Arab word “rudjum”, plural of “radjm” - means “throwing of stones” or “stoning” (one name for the Devil f.x. is “ar-radjim” = “the stoned one”). Or is it the fire? – the Quran really mention the fire. Once more: Start guessing. (The 2008 edition of “The Message of the Quran” even has got a new one – at least new to us: The Quran is not talking about stars used like shooting stars, but used as objects for divination by the bad astrologers. They need a lot of easy words to reach that conclusion, but so what? – as we have indicated before: Sometimes the religion is more essential than honesty and intellectual integrity. Though we have touched this theme before, we ask again: What does it indicate that a religion has to resort to cheating and dishonesty? Normally such methods mean that one does not have real arguments. In religion there also is the serious fact: If there is a next life, and if a religion needs to base its life on lies – even only partly – that is a strong indication for that this religion is not based on the truth. In that case its believers will not wake up in any Paradise.)

      What is for sure is that according to the Quran, the stars are fastened to the lowest of the claimed 7 heavens. And as the moon is between the heavens according to the book, this means that at least the lowest heaven and all the stars are below the moon. Not exactly modern astronomy.

      Any god had known better than this. Who made the Quran?

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      g. EARTH IS FLAT

      It is such a matter of course in the Quran that the Earth is flat, that the shape of it never is clearly mentioned. But each time it is compared to something, it is to something flat - a carpet, a bed, etc. See f.x. 15/19 or 20/53. There is no doubt that the Quran's Earth is flat. You will meet Muslims claiming that the Quran says the Earth is spherical or egg shaped. But this is from an al-Taqiyya (lawful lie) translation. Of the several places where the Earth is compared to something, in the Arab text (often not in the translations) one place it is compared to an ostrich's nest, which simply is a flattened piece of earth. Of the 60+ translations to English, on single translator has translated this not to something flat, but to "like an ostrich's egg". This one out of 60+ translations and this one out of many places in the Quran where Earth is compared to something flat, also in that translation is it Muslims cherry-pick and claim this proves that Muhammad knew Earth was spherical or at least egg shaped (in spite of that the words in the Quran really says an ostrich's nest). Lay Muslims may even believe this, but it is not possible for scholars of Islam not to know that it is wrong - - - but they do not correct their fellow Muslims, and some even uses the wrong translation themselves. As mentioned before: Honesty is not always the main thing for Muslims trying to prove that the Quran is right.

      NB: There also is one place in the Quran where the texts says something like "Allah blends the day into the night and the night into the day" - something like that. Muslims claim this proves the Quran knew the Earth is a globe, because this blending would be impossible if the Earth had other shapes. This is wrong. Muhammad believed the sun was moving across the flat Earth, and then the blending is absolutely possible also if the Earth were flat

      Worse: The claim is dishonesty, as the Muslim scholar - who are behind "explanations" like this - know as well as anybody else, that Muhammad just was describing what he saw - that one was blending into the other morning and evening. He did not have to know anything about the shape of the Earth to see this.

      This flat Earth is unstable and may start wobbling. To hinder that Allah has dropped down (the same Arab verb is used as the one used by a sailor when he drops an anchor) mountains to stabilize it. (No comments should be necessary).

      Modern Muslims claim the mountains are placed there to hinder earthquakes - but mountains do not hinder earthquakes (they even are connected to earthquakes sometimes). But what the original Arab texts really say, is that the Earth might start wobbling and even tip over, and the mountains prevents this. (Also here comments should not be necessary.)

      Already at the time of Muhammad there existed "highways" - or rather main tracks/paths. These were made by Allah.

      And 2 of the big rivers on Earth - the Euphrates and the Nile - starts in the gardens of Paradise. Is the word nonsense strong enough?

      Who made the Quran?

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      h. THE 7 EARTHS - AND HELL

      According to 65/12, Allah created "seven Firmaments and of the earth a similar number" = Allah created 7 Earths.

      According to f.x. Al-Bukhari the Earths are placed one above the other – easy as the Quran tells the Earth(s) is/are flat. The lower down, the more devilish life on the respective layer – and if you are a big enough sinner, you can fall down through them all at the Day of Doom. It is not necessary to say it is all rubbish.

      p> Also see 1/2 - 2/131 – 6/45 - 7/64 - 7/61 - 7/67 – 7/104 – 7/121 – 10/37 – 26/16 – 26/23 – 26/47 – 26/77 – 26/98 – 26/109 – 26/127 – 26/145 - 26/180 - 26/192 – 27/8 – 27/44 - 28/30 – 32/2 – 37/87 - 37/182 – 38/87 – 39/75 - 40/64 - 40/66 – 41/9 – 43/46 – 45/36 - 56/80 – 59/16 – 65/12 (this one) - 68/52 – 69/43 – 81/27 – 81/29 – 83/6 and more. All these places mention “the worlds” in plural – f.x. “Lord of the Worlds (Allah*)” – and reference to the 7 worlds. But beware of a stumbling stone here: The Quran also in 1 – 2 cases uses the expression “the Worlds” in another connection – Muslim scholars believe it in that or those couple of cases refers to “man and Jinn” or “man and woman”. In western languages it is not possible to see the difference, because our nouns only have singular and plural. But in Arab (and some other languages) it is different: They have singular, dual (= 2), and plural. We are informed that in all such cases where the original Arab text has plural, it refers to the 7 non-existing Earths (well, one exists, even though it is not flat). But if the Arab text any place has the noun "Worlds" in dual, it just that place may be referring to something else - like "man and jinn".

      Also see 65/12b.

      In one theory, both Paradise and Hell is placed in the 7. heaven. But it is normal to hear that Hell is place under the lowest Earth. The Quran does not clearly tell neither where Paradise, nor where Hell are situated.

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      i. THE 7 EARTHS - AND THEIR PEOPLE

      As for 7 Earths: 65/12: “Allah is He Who created seven Firmaments (wrong*) and of the earth a similar number”. Hadiths says "one above the other". According to Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah al-Kisa’i the last part means 7 layers down in the Earth according to one “explanation”- - - without explaining how the "people" living there can move around or not be fried by the heat or compressed by the pressure (it is normal for Muslims and Islam to "explain" things without taking all elements into consideration - and then you are imbecile if you see that some aspects kill their "explanation", instead of seeing that they are right). But what the Quran really says is that there are 7 Earths – 7 flat Earths. Also see 67/5a for some more details. No matter if you believe the Quran/Hadith or one of the “explanations” for this somewhat special geology/astronomy, the names of the “Earths” from top and down are - according to Hadiths:

      (As you see included "our" Earth - scientific name Tellus - Islam lists 8 Earths, but if you recon Ramaka to be our Earth (this is not clearly said anywhere in the Quran), there are 7 + Hell. The description of Ramaka does not quite fit our planet, but it seems that this must be the case: We are living on Ramaka and we are Muwasshim.)

      The scientific name of the people on our Earth is Homo Sapiens. That means "the thinking human" or "knowing human". There are times when there are reasons for believing that name is an ironical joke - f.x. when leaders demand blindness, blind belief, and acceptance/belief in obviously wrong facts and/or obviously invalid logic.

      If there somewhere is a god who is behind the creation or development of man, his second most valuable gift - after life itself - is our brain. If it is a gift from a god, it is an insult to this god to use blind belief instead of the brain.

      1. 1.Ramaka. People: Muwasshim, in everlasting torment and divine retribution. (Earth?)
      2. 2.Khalada. People: Tamis, eating their own flesh, drinking their own blood.
      3. 3.Arqa. People: Qays, eating dirt, drinking mother's milk.
      4. Pest: Mulelike eagles with spear like tails and poisonous quills.
      5. 4.Haraba. People: Jilla, have no eyes, hands, or feet, but bat like wings.
      6. Pest: the snakes of Hell, large as mountains.
      7. 5.Maltham. People: Hajla, eat each other.
      8. Pest: carry stones of sulfur around their neck - may burn.
      9. 6.Sijjin. People: Qatat, look like birds, worship Allah.
      10. Pest(?): contains the register of Hell.
      11. 7.Ajiba. People: Khasum, black and short, with claws like lions.
      12. Pest: Iblis/the Devil lives here (Hell?). Gog and Magog will end here.

       

      Similar list from A. Birckov:

      1. 1.Ramaka Humans Under it: Strong wind protected by 70ooo angels. (There nowhere under us is wind - only over us (in the atmosphere).
      2. 2.Halda Amis Eating own bodies and blood. + all kinds of horrors for the condemned.
      3. 3.Arkadir (Qays?) Scorpion big as mules, snakes like dogs, Other strange and terrifying creature + fire/water ogres, and fish ogres.
      4. 4.Ruin Jilla A mountain like great snakes to frighten sentenced people. The Jillas have wings like birds, but no eyes, hands, or feet.
      5. 5.Malsam Hajla Cannibals.
      6. 6.Sijin Al-Qutat Birdlike. Also the settlement of souls of residence in Hell, to be punished by angels. Fire sea + terrible tragedies. Also "the book of debauchees" is here.
      7. 7.Ajiba Khutuk (terrible ogres) Will destroy Gog and Magog. Stronghold of Satan in the middle part.

       

      This list at least makes it clear that Ramaka = our Earth.

      That the creation took 6 days, is mentioned at least in 10/3 – 11/7 – 25/59 – 32/4 – 50/38 - 57/4. But on another place says 2 + 4 + 2 = 8 days. Muslims claim the first 2 are included in the 4, but that is not what the Quran says.

      Just like your teacher of geography told you? And who created this nonsense? - an omniscient god?

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      j. THE 7 GATES OF HELL

      Like the heavens also Hell has 7 gates. They open to 7 parts of Hell, one worse than the next. There are different lists. The names of the gates mostly are similar, but the purpose of the different gates may vary not a little. This list is from al-Baghawi and al-Baizawi:

      1. Juhannam/Gehenna Purgatory hell for all Muslims.
      2. Laza (Raging flame) For Christians.
      3. Hutama (Crushing torment) For Jews.
      4. Sair (Blazing flame) For Sabeans.
      5. Saquar (Hell-fire) For wise men (of non-Islamic wisdom).
      6. Jahim (Blazing fire) For pagans.
      7. Hawiya/Nar (Fire) For hypocrites.

       

      Once more: Just like your teacher of geography told you? And who created this nonsense?

      Once more: ##(YA5570):"He (Allah*) Who creates must necessarily know His own handiwork". This is very correct, so when the Quran shows that the maker of that book clearly do not know the reality, it is a strong proof for that something is very wrong somewhere.

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      According to f.x. Hadith, Al-Bukhari, the earths are placed one above the other – easy as the Quran tells Earth(s) is/are flat. The lower down, the more devilish life on the respective "Earth" – and if you are a big enough sinner, you can fall down through them to Hell at the Day of Doom according to Hadiths. It is not necessary to say it is all rubbish. No comments. But also see 65/12c just below.

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      COMPARISON WITH MODERN SCIENCE AND FACTS:

      “So He (Allah*) completed them as seven firmaments - - -”. (Firmament is another name for the heaven or sky – mainly used for the night sky). But there are no 7 firmaments. All the same you find these claims about 7 heavens/firmaments/tracts at least in 2/22d, 2/29d+e - 17/44a – 23/17a – 23/86a – 41/12a - 65/12a – 67/3a+b - 71/15a+b - 71/15-16a+b – 78/12a-b, and not least 31/10b+c (another heavenly mistake). All together the Quran mentions "heavens" in plural at least 199 times; there is no doubt the Quran means there are 7 heavens (and as the stars are fastened to the lowermost of them - f.x. 67/5a - they have to be material ones - if not the stars could not be fastened to it). In 67/3 you also are told that the heavens are placed one above the other, which means they of course are built successively higher above the Earth - which also is clear from most places in the Quran, where the place of the heavens are indicated. Some modern Muslims try to place the heavens in space, deep space included. But among others 67/3 prohibits this, as "up" and "down" ("one above the other") has no meaning as part of the real space + a number of other facts make it impossible. F.x. there are facts like how to breathe in rarified or no air for Muslims in such a Paradise? How to build the mansions mentioned in the Quran in space? - or the thrones, - or walk and relax there, - or grow shady trees?. Or if you go high enough: How can the angels use their wings in vacuum?

      Islam and its Muslims often claim that layers in our atmosphere = the 7 heavens. #########The first thing to do here like always when Islam or Muslims throw around not proved claims, is to demand proofs for their claims - Muslims are very good at throwing around claims, and then leave it up to you to prove them wrong. This is to turn things upside down: It is the one producing a claim, who has "the burden of proof" = it is his job to prove it, not your to disprove it. And "a strong claim needs a strong proofs". The entire Islam has still not provided one single proof for their strong claims about the 7 Heavens in the atmosphere, nor about the 7 earths inside our globe, nor about our 6 continents (included Antarctic) = the 7 Earths - and "a claim without a proof, may be dismissed without a proof".

      As for in the atmosphere, science knows of no 7 layers in the atmosphere. To reach the number 7 Islam has to use two of the many secondary ones, and then pretend not to know about all the other secondary ones. (Similar goes for the claim that the 7 earths. Science knows about 4 or 5 layers (depending on if one reckon the so-called mantle as 1 or 2 layers). Islam use 2 of several secondary ones (lithosphere and asthenosphere) in addition to the maximun 5 and gets 7.

      As for the layers of air, science split the atmosphere in 5 layers - exosphere (top), termosphere, mesosphere, stratosphere, and tropospher (bottom). This splitting mainly is made on basis of temperature. You also may split it on basis of aerodynamics. Then you get 4 layers. Further you may divide it by radio physics - and get 3 layers - and by chemical process, where you get 2 layers. There is no scientific way of splitting the atmosphere in 7 layers.

      Inside the different layers, there are separate sub layers with different properties, like f.x. the ionosphere (the rarified air is highly ionized), the ozone layer (a special kind of oxygen molecules - 03 (very reactive)), homosphere and heterosphere, planet boundary layer ("scraping" along the uneven Earth), and more. These are not reckoned to be atmospheric layers, but special properties within parts of the atmospheric layers, or layers within those layers - secondary layers.

      Below we list the most used layers - you may be able to find more. The secondary layers are listed below their respective primary layers. Beware that when a secondary layer is mentioned under more than one primary layer, it is because it overlaps or straddles primary ones.

      Beware that in the atmosphere, borders and distances may fluctuate, and temperatures the same. Also: Numbers written xx/yy = from xx to yy (f.x.500/1000 = altitude may vary from 500 to 1ooo km). We only use km and not miles below, because our source gives it in km. Roughly: 1 mile = 1.6 km, and 6 miles = 10 km.

      Listed from top (space) and down (to Earth):

      1. Science: Altitude./km: Temperature: Specification:
      2. Magnetosphere 58ooo Magnetic field
      3. Ionosphere 85-600/700 Ionized diluted gas
      4. Exosphere 500/1000 and up Single molecules. 300-1700C Exosphere
      5. Magnetosphere 600/700 and up

      6. Scaled heights 90 and up Atomic weight layers
      7. Ionosphere 85-600/700 Ionized diluted gas
      8. Heterosphere 80/100 and up. Heterogeneous composed air
      9. Thermosphere 85-600/700 Hot, ionized. Up to 2500C
      10. Thermosphere
      11. Anacoustic zone 160 and up Sound not transferred
      12. Scaled heights 90 and up Atomic weight layers
      13. Heterosphere 80/100 and up. Heterogeneous composed air
      14. Ionosphere 85-600/700 Ionized diluted gas
      15. Mesopause 80-90 Border layer
      16. Turbopause 80-90 End turbulence mixing
      17. Ozone layer
      18. Mesosphere 50-80/85 Very cold. From -140C. Rising down Mesosphere
      19. Mesopause 80-90 Border layer
      20. Turbopause 80-90 End turbulence mixing
      21. Homosphere 0-80/100 Homgenous atmosphere
      22. Stratosphere 8/18-50 Cold. Little convection. Temp. rising up
      23. Homosphere 0-80/100 Homogenous atmosphere
      24. Ozone layer 18-50 2 mm ozone if concentrated.
      25. Temp. layers Stratified by temperat.
      26. Tropopause 17-20 End tumultuous air
      27. Troposphere 0-17/20 80% of air/99% of water -50-+50. Rising down Troposphere
      28. Hemisphere 0-80/100 Homogenous atmosphere
      29. Tropopause 17-20 End tumultuous air
      30. Planetary b. l. 0.4 - 2 Boundary layer

      26 layers or more - just pick and choose to find 7 - - - and be silent about the others. Honesty is impressive in Islam.

       

      As you see, Islam has plenty of layers to pick from when they want to find 7 layers, and call them the 7 Heavens. They simply have picked the 5 primary layers, and as that was too little, they have randomly added a couple out of the perhaps 20 different secondary ones (for one thing we hardly have listed all secondary layers, and in addition there may exist tertiary ones in f.x. "scaled heights" and "temperature layers"). One - the ionosphere - even is not reckoned to be part of the atmosphere, but the inner end of the magnetosphere (we include both, because you sometimes meet them in debates about this), which both happen to be situated in the upper atmosphere (the magnetosphere continues outside, too). The very thin air in the ionosphere is strongly ionized (made electric) by strong solar radiation. A nice place for a heaven. And the ozone layer contains ozone or O3 - a strongly oxidizing gas. Also this a nice building material for the "floor" of a heaven - and such a rare building material, that if it was separated out, it would only make a 2 mm thick layer of gas around Earth. Not a very strong floor for a heaven. But if it breaks down, there are many more layers for Allah to build a heaven on. (Do you see the unintended joke behind the never proved claim that the 7 heavens, are the 7 layers of the atmosphere?)

      But the real jokes - and the real dishonesty - follow below. The comics above may have been wishful thinking and not necessarily intended dishonesty, as much of it is not too well known among ordinary people - though nobody has any excuse for not checking their claims before they throw them around. But what follows below, mostly is primary and secondary school knowledge, and there does not exist one imam, mullah, or other scholar in the entire Islam who does not know or easily could check these facts:

  1. According to the Quran, the stars are fastened to the lowest heaven. This - and other “facts” from the Quran - means the heavens have to be material. But there are no 7 material heavens up in the atmosphere.
  2. According to the Quran, the 7 heavens are held up by invisible pillars. These have to be material, in order to keep up material heavens. But neither science, humans, birds, nor airplanes have ever bumped into such one. (Modern Islam sometimes claims the Quran here means force fields - which definitely was not what Muhammad said. (After all there is quite a difference between a pillar and a force field, and also there are few repulsive kinds of force fields in nature.) But for one thing such strong force fields science and others had found at least decades ago if they existed + for another we know ever so well that the different layers in the atmosphere are not held up by force fields.
  3. According to the Quran the Moon (and the sun) is between the heavens. If the heavens are inside the atmosphere, this means that the Moon is inside our atmosphere, and at least below the highest one. The exospheres/7. Heaven starts at 500-1000 km (roughly 300-600 miles) up. This in case means that according to Islam the Moon is maximum 600 miles/1000 km away.
  4. According to the Quran the stars are fastened to the lowest heaven. This means that they are below the Moon. What would happen on and to Earth - and to the Heavens - if f.x. Sirius, Aldebaran, Betelgeuse, or VY Canis Majoris were below the Moon? - not to mention if the Moon in case was only 600 mils/1ooo km away?
  5. The layers in the atmosphere billow quite a lot - up to 300 miles/500 km for the exosphere. (Well, this is tertiary school level, but not more). How to build Heavens on such floors?
  6. How is it possible to build the mansions the Quran tells about in Heaven, if the heavens are not material and stable ones?
  7. And how to build the endless rows of thrones the Quran tells about, if there is not material and stable floor or ground under them?
  8. And how to grow trees for shade and fruit, if there is not material and stable ground for the roots?
  9. How for the good Muslims, resurrected in body, to walk on or to rest in the grass, if there is no solid and stable ground?
  10. How do the 4 rivers in Heaven run, if there is no material ground to run on?
  11. How do the rivers in Heaven run, and how to know where they will run tomorrow, when the layers in the atmosphere - the floors in the Heavens where they run - wobbles kilometers up and down all the time?
  12. How to live and walk in a Heaven claimed to be a layer in the atmosphere, when the border - the floor/ground in the Heaven in reality is some miles/km deep? - which borders between two layers in the atmosphere easily may be.
  13. Nearly all the air (80%) is in the troposphere = below the claimed Heavens if the 1. Heaven rests on the troposphere. How then to breathe in the Heavens?
  14. How to drink - wine or water in those Heavens? The low air pressure will make it boil before you have time to drink it. (Tertiary school physics.)

  15. How to be able to live in those Heavens? The low air pressure will make the blood and the juices inside you quickly start boiling. (Tertiary school physics.)

  16. How to exist in those Heavens? The boiling blood, etc. inside you, will make you explode within minutes. (Tertiary school physics.)
  17. How to survive in Heavens above the ozone layer? - the radiation will kill you or fry you in days or weeks at most. (Tertiary school physics.)
  18. How to feel comfortable in the Heavens? - the temperatures vary from lower than -140C (130K) to +2500C (though because of extremely thin air, it will feel far from that hot). (Well, this is lower university physics.)
  19. How to enjoy life in the 1. Heaven, where you have the strongly oxidizing ozone? (Lower university level physics.)
  20. How to enjoy life in the 1. Heaven, with the strong trade winds in the stratosphere? (using the top of the troposphere as your floor or ground).
  21. The Quran many places - 20 or more - in different words tells that its texts are clear and easy to understand = to be understood literally unless it is not something else is said. This means that each and every time Islam or a Muslim claims that Allah and Muhammad and the Quran here means something very different and far away from what the texts say - diffuse layers with very unclear and billowing borders instead of clear and steady meadows in a Paradise - they confirm that the Quran - and Allah and Muhammad - are lying those perhaps 20 or more places in the book.
  22. The Quran several places states that it only is for the ones sick of heart to look for hidden meanings in the Quran where no hidden meanings are clearly indicated. And perhaps it takes a sick heart - or a desperate brain (when using so far out and hopeless "explanations", the word "desperate" is not too strong) - to use "explanations" of a quality like this. If used in a fairy tale, only the smaller children would believe in it.

Well, this is enough. There may be more imbecilities, but this will have to do. Islam and Muslims are experts in making "explanations". But very often they look just at one or two aspects of a problem, find an answer which seemingly will satisfy those, and then: VOILA! Here we have the sure answer!!! But they "forget" other aspects, which may kill their "explanation".

In this case they have looked at two aspects with the error "7 Heavens": The number "7" and the word "up". By adding a couple of the secondary layers to the normal 5 layers in the atmosphere, they have found the number 7 - "hide the rest of the secondary layers, which will destroy the mathematics" - and the atmosphere of course is "up". The problem solved!!!

For Muslims really believing in this kind of argumentation, it is naivety or naive wishful thinking. For all the others it is dishonesty - and a kind of dishonesty one meets all too often from Islam and Muslims, included highly educated scholars.

Nice to have solid confirmation also from Islam and from Muslims - both for that the Quran lies, and for the ways they use for fleeing from having to face even most obvious errors in the Quran.

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The Quran also talks about 7 Earths, and of course below us. The Quran talks about flat Earths, one below the other. The flat Earths are too difficult to explain - too obviously wrong. The strategy is to claim that the Quran really meant spherical Earth (wrong, but al-Taqiyya - the lawful lie - is part of Islam), and then logically the claimed 7 Earths must be inside our globe, named Terra or Tellus, but normally just called Earth. And inside Earth there are layers - Miracle! There are the 7 Earths!!

There are 2 ways of classifying the composition of the Earth:

1): Chemically: Crust, mantle, and core. This is the normal way to classify the layers. There are 4 or 5 layers, depending in if you call the mantle 1 or 2 layers: Crust, mantel (or outer mantel + inner mantel), outer core, and inner core.

2): Functionally or secondary way of classifying: Lithosphere, asthenosphere, discontinuity layers, and border layers.

Beware that like in the atmosphere borders and distances may fluctuate, and the given temperatures are estimates - we use a moderate estimate for the temperatures (we have seen estimates up to at least 9000C for the center of Earth. Also: Numbers written xx/yy = from xx to yy (f.x. 870/1250C = temperatures vary from 870C to 1250C). We only use km and not miles below, because our source gives it in km. Roughly: 1 mile = 1.6 km, and 6 miles = 10 km.

  1. Science: Depth, km: Description: Islam:
  2. Crust 0-8/25/100 A layer of stone floating on molten rock. -50-870C Crust Split in upper and lower under continents
  3. Upper 0-15/20 Only under continents
  4. Conrad 15-20 Discontinuity layer between upper and lover crust. Only under continents
  5. Lower 15/20-100 Only under continents
  6. Lithosph. 0-40/100 Outer = Crust + some part of upper mantle 870-1250C Lithosphere Split in outer and inner.
  7. Upper mantle 40/100-700 Upper part solid, then semi-viscous, then 1250-1650C Upper mantle
  8. thickly viscous lowest.
  9. Moha 40/100-70/400 Mohorovicic Discontinuity layer (mostly named 1250-1450C Moha), between crust/mantle. Inside lithosph. except under mid-ocean ridges, where it borders the asthenosphere.
  10. Lithosph. 40/100-70/400 Inner. Incl. hard part of upper mantle. 1250-1650C
  11. LAB 80-100/400 Lithosphere-asthenosphere boundary, normally solid.

  12. Asthenosp.80-200/700 Semi fluid, 100-200 km thick 1450-1650C Astenosphere
  13. Lehman 190-250 Discontinuity layer in upper mantle. Mostly under continents.
  14. Lower mantel 700-2890 Sometimes reckoned together with upper, and 1650-3370C Lower mantle named only mantle. More fluid. Seismology may indicate structures/layers, but unclear.
  15. Outer core 2890-5150 Liquid layer of mainly iron and nickel. 3370-5000C Outer core
  16. Inner core 5150-6371 Solid ball of iron and nickel. 5000-5700C+ Inner core
  17. 14 layers or more - just pick and choose to find 7 - - - and be silent about the others. Honesty is impressive in Islam.

     

    What Islam has done to find 7 Earths here, is the same as for finding 7 Heavens in the atmosphere: One has taken the 4-5 standard layers, picked a couple more, and then are silent about the other layers. Our comments are very parallel to the ones for the 7 Heavens in the atmosphere. And also here there are imbecilities. Very little is mentioned about the 7 Earths in the Quran (65/12), but Hadiths make it clear that they have nature, flora, fauna, and sentient beings.

    The first thing to do, is to demand proofs for their claims - Muslims are very good at throwing around claims, and then leave it up to you to prove them wrong. This is to turn things upside down: It is the one producing a claim, who has "the burden of proof" = it is his job to prove it, not your to disprove it. And "a strong claim needs a strong proofs". The entire Islam has still not provided one single proof for their strong claims about the 7 Heavens in the atmosphere, nor about the 7 earths inside our globe, nor about our 6 continents (included Antarctic) = the 7 Earths, and "a claim without a proof, may be dismissed without a proof".

    The 7 Earths, its people, and its "pests" - we repeat for comparison:

    1. Ramaka. People: Muwasshim. In everlasting torment and divine retribution. (Earth?)
    2. Khalada. People: Tamis. Eating their own flesh, drinking their own blood.
    3. Arqa. People: Qays. Eating dirt, drinking mother's milk. Pest: Mulelike eagles with spearlike tails and poisenous quills.
    4. Haraba. People: Jilla. Have no eyes, hands, or feet, but batlike wings. Pest: the snakes of Hell, large as mountains.
    5. Maltham. People: Hajla. Eat each other - cannibals. Pest: carry stones of sulphur around their neck - may burn.
    6. Sijjin. People: Qatat. Look like birds, worship Allah. Pest(?): contains the register of Hell.
    7. Ajiba. People: Khasum. Black and short, with claws like lions. Pest: Iblis/the Devil lives here (Hell?). Gog and Magog will end here.
    8. And then Hell underneath.

     

    Some imbecilities:

    1. 1): How can these beings breathe inside stone?
    2. 2): How can they move inside stone?
    3. 3): How can they survive such temperatures?
    4. 4): How do they survive the pressure? - it rises by 200-300 kg/cm3 (200-300 atm.) and more for each km down.
    5. 5): How do they move in magma (melted stone)? - Much lighter than stone, they will race upward like cork in water - - - if they survive the temperature and the pressure. (The density of a human body is around 1 kg/l, the density of rock varies between 1,1 (coal) and 3.4 (peridotite) and metals up to 22.9 (osmium))
    6. How about the Iblis/the Devil? If Hell is underneath the 7 earths, this means somewhere in the core of Earth, and there it is too hot even for Hell. At some 5700C to 9oooC a resurrected human body will vaporize and burn to ashes so fast, that the person will not have time to feel pain.
    7. The Quran says 7 Earths. If one like her do not take 7 different Earths, but 7 parts of one Earth, this just means Allah created only one Earth, and not 7 like the Quran says = ########each and every time Islam or a Muslim forward this claim, they confirm that verse 65/12 in the Quran is a lie. They corrupt the Quran's texts.
    8. The Quran many places - 20 or more - in different words tells that its texts are clear and easy to understand = to be understood literally unless it is not something else is said. This means that each and every time Islam or a Muslim claims that Allah and Muhammad and the Quran here means something very different and far away from what the texts say - diffuse layers with very unclear and slowly billowing (at least where the stone is soft or melted) borders, instead of clear and steady meadows in a Paradise + only one Earth instead of 7 (= 2 fundamental differences) - they confirm that the Quran - and Allah and Muhammad - are lying those perhaps 50 or more places in the book, and a double lie each time.
    9. The Quran several places states that it only is for the ones sick of heart to look for hidden meanings in the Quran where no hidden meanings are clearly indicated. And perhaps it takes a sick heart - or a desperate brain (when using so far out and hopeless "explanations", the word "desperate" is not too strong) - to use "explanations" of a quality like this. If used in a fairy tale, only the smaller children would believe in it.
  18. Like said concerning the Heavens in the atmosphere: Nice. Confirmation of central and essential points always is nice to get.

 

Like said when writing about the 7 Heavens in the atmosphere: Many of the "explanations" and claims Islam and Muslims make up are so hopeless, that it is difficult to understand how anybody - at least anybody with a minimum of intelligence and knowledge - is able to believe in such stories. But many are. "When you want to believe, it is easy to believe". Many Muslims also have little education and no training in critical thinking = easier to believe.

But worse: MANY of the points we have mentioned, are so well known and so obvious to persons with some education, that there is no chance Muslim scholars do not know it, or at least easily could have checked before they made such claims. This tells a lot about Islam and their scholars. And about honesty in Islam.

It also confirms that the main thing to them, is not to find out what is the truth, but to make the Quran sound like the truth, come Hell or high water, and true or not. This in spite of the price every Muslim will have to pay if the Quran is a made up book - and that full of errors, contradictions, etc. it at least is from no god - if there all the same is a next life and a different god.

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There also is the less used - and even less believable - claim that the 7 Earths = 7 continents on our Earth. One of the troubles is that there only are 6 continents on Earth: 2 Americas, Africa, Australia, Antarctic, and Eurasia. Because Eurasia - Europe + Asia - just is one continent (and just one tectonic plate). This continent often is split into Europe + Asia, but that is a cultural divide, and has nothing to do with geography, geology, or anything similar. = Only 6 continents, unless you lie.

#####We will ask Islam and Muslims to prove this claim, too. (Muslims and Islam are good at making claims, but flee from all requests for proofs. But "a claim without a proof may be dismissed without a proof", and "the claimant has the burden of proof " (= the one who has to prove the case true or not).

#########Actually the first thing you always do when Islam or Muslims throw around not proved claims, is to demand proofs for their claims - Muslims like sais are very good at throwing around claims, and then leave it up to you to prove them wrong. This is to turn things upside down: It is the one producing a claim, who has "the burden of proof" = it is his job to prove it, not your to disprove it. And "a strong claim needs a strong proofs". The entire Islam has till now provided neither one single proof for their strong claims about the 7 Heavens in the atmosphere, nor about the 7 earths inside our globe, nor about our 6 continents = the 7 Earths, and "a claim without a proof, may be dismissed without a proof".

  1. Islam and Muslims in this case have to lie each time they forward this claim: 6 continents cannot be 7 unless one use dishonesty (but dishonesty (al-Taqiyya, Kitman, Hilah) is permitted in 8-10 wide cases in Islam - even advised if necessary to defend or promote Islam + also deceit, etc. and even misuse of words/promises/oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah can cheat, cheating is ok - but how much cheating is it then in the Quran?))
  2. The Quran (65/12) says 7 Earths. There is a big difference between an Earth and a continent.
  3. If the claim is correct, Allah created only one World, not 7 like 65/12 says. A mistake in the Quran.
  4. According to Hadiths terrible animals - f.x. the enormous snakes of Hell - live on some of the Earths = continents if this claim is correct. Where are they?
  5. According to Hadiths there live widely different sentient beings on every of the 7 Earths/continents. Where are they?
  6. Which one of the sentient races live on the Antarctic continent, and where are they?
  7. On which of the continents do Iblis live? According to the Quran he lives on Ajiba, but it is not said what continent this in case corresponds to. (Oh, we know every second Muslim will say: North America. But even President Obama like he looks in the eyes of some Muslims, has a long way to go to compete with Iblis). The question stands.
  8. If Islam and Muslims claim that the continents on Earth = the 7 Earths in the Quran, they each and every time they claim this, confirm that the Quran lies - and Muhammad lied - in the Quran, as he then created only 1 Earth instead of 7.
  9. hey at the same times confirm that the Quran lies about the number of 7 in 65/12, as there only are 6 continents on Earth.
  10. The Quran many places - 20 or more - in different words tells that its texts are clear and easy to understand = to be understood literally unless not something else is said. This means that each and every time Islam or a Muslim claims that Allah and Muhammad and the Quran here means something very different and far away from what the texts say - continents instead of Earths/planets - they confirm that the Quran - and Allah and Muhammad - are lying those perhaps 20 or more places in the book.
  11. The Quran several places states that it only is for the ones sick of heart to look for hidden meanings in the Quran where no hidden meanings are clearly indicated. And perhaps it takes a sick heart - or a desperate brain (when using so far out and hopeless "explanations" like these, the word "desperate" is not too strong) - to use "explanations" of a quality like this. If used in a fairy tale, only the smaller children would believe in it.
    1. Once more: Nice. Such confirmations may benefit both Muslims and non-Muslims, so thank you.

     

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    365 65/12c: “Allah is He Who created seven Firmaments (wrong*) and of the earth a similar number”. Modern Islam has problems with this one, as it is so obviously wrong, and so difficult to explain away. As mentioned one way to try to explain it away, is to claim the Quran here speaks about different layers in the Earth - which it most obviously do not do, and a way of understanding it none of Muhammad's listeners and none of the Muslim scholars of the old ever thought about. And also an "explanation" which "forgets" that Islam claims (well, they speak with very small letters about it nowadays) that on each of the 7 earths there lived sentient beings - impossible in the stone and iron and pressure and temperature inside Earth - but then it is typical for Muslims to produce "explanations" for difficult problems, mistakes, etc., which seemingly may explain one or a few aspects of a case, and "forget" about other aspects of the same or other cases which kills the made up or trumped up "explanation".

    Yusuf Ali (YA5527) has this claim for an "explanation" - and like all other Muslims trying this explanation, he "forget" that Islam (Hadiths) claims there live "humans" on each of the claimed Earths: "If we take the literal meaning (= what the Quran really says - and this is how the Quran is to be understood if nothing else is said or clearly indicated, according to the Quran*) - just as we see the heavenly spheres one above another (they do not exist!!), over our heads, so we can see that the crust of the earth is built up of geological strata one above another". But you will never find a Muslim trying to explain this in more details if he can in any way avoid it. The reason is that in addition to the "humans" Islam claims live on the different Earths, and which are "forgotten" here, this "explanation" is scientific gobbledygook:

      If you only take the crust, it is normal to reckon 2 (not 7) strata - upper and lower crust: Heavy stone like basalt at the bottom and lighter like granite at the top. 2 layers is very different from 7 (though is you count sub layers, you can get something like 5).
    1. Some Muslims use the whole Earth. Then science normally reckons main 3 or 4 layers: The core, the mantel, and the crust - still a long way to go to find 7.
    2. The Muslim fares somewhat better if the scientist splits up these layers somewhat - like they often do. Then you get the lower and upper core, the lower and upper mantle, and the crust = 5 layers - or 6 if you also split the crust in a lower and upper one - but still not 7.
    3. The scientific stratifying of the Earth - splitting it in layers - is a rather arbitrary affair, except where it is split in core, mantle and crust. Such arbitrary splitting can be done in many ways, and if you look long enough and split in the "correct" way - add some of the sub-layers and be silent about the others - it is very likely you will find a way to split it in 7 theoretical ways - - - and then you have your and the Quran's 7 Earths!!! - though then you have to include only 1 or 2 of the sub layers, and these Earths admittedly are very different from what is told in the Quran, and Hades take the "forgotten" inhabitants Islam tells about on the claimed Earths. The magic number - not to say the number magic - is found and as the number fits, the "explanation" is proved!! You will find that some mistakes in the Quran are tried explained away in this way - find some facts, real or claimed, which looks like they fit one or some aspects of the problem, forget the other aspects, especially if they prove your "explanation" wrong, and then you have your "solution" or sometimes even "proof". That both science and normal brain power tell that an explanation is invalid if it does not explain all aspects of a problem, is totally overlooked and of no interest to those Muslims.
    4. As for using layers - strata - in the crust for an explanation like Abdullah Yusuf Ali indicates, you run into one more problem: Because of the tectonic activity (movement - also up and down) in the crust, it will be impossible to find 7 continuous layers in the Crust. May be this is why he did not say more about how layers in the crust can explain the Quran's 7 "Earths".

     

    Impressive mental gymnastics, but not much honesty.

    ########To repeat some facts about the stratification of the Earth:

    Beware that like in the atmosphere borders and distances may fluctuate, and the given temperatures are estimates - we use a moderate estimate for the temperatures (we have seen estimates up to at least 9000C for the center of Earth. Also: Numbers written xx/yy = from xx to yy (f.x. 870/1250C = temperatures vary from 870C to 1250C). We only use km and not miles below, because our source gives it in km. Roughly: 1 mile = 1.6 km, and 6 miles = 10 km.

    1. Science: Depth, km: Description: Islam:
    2. Crust 0-8/25/100 A layer of stone floating on molten rock. -50-870C Crust Split in upper and lower under continents
    3. Upper 0-15/20 Only under continents
    4. Conrad 15-20 Discontinuity layer between upper and lover crust. Only under continents
    5. Lower 15/20-100 Only under continents
    6. Lithosph. 0-40/100 Outer = Crust + some part of upper mantle 870-1250C Lithosphere Split in outer and inner.
    7. Upper mantle 40/100-700 Upper part solid, then semi-viscous, then 1250-1650C Upper mantle
    8. thickly viscous lowest.
    9. Moha 40/100-70/400 Mohorovicic Discontinuity layer (mostly named 1250-1450C Moha), between crust/mantle. Inside lithosph. except under mid-ocean ridges, where it borders the asthenosphere.
    10. Lithosph. 40/100-70/400 Inner. Incl. hard part of upper mantle. 1250-1650C
    11. LAB 80-100/400 Lithosphere-asthenosphere boundary, normally solid.

    12. Asthenosp.80-200/700 Semi fluid, 100-200 km thick 1450-1650C Astenosphere
    13. Lehman 190-250 Discontinuity layer in upper mantle. Mostly under continents.
    14. Lower mantel 700-2890 Sometimes reckoned together with upper, and 1650-3370C Lower mantle named only mantle. More fluid. Seismology may indicate structures/layers, but unclear.
    15. Outer core 2890-5150 Liquid layer of mainly iron and nickel. 3370-5000C Outer core
    16. Inner core 5150-6371 Solid ball of iron and nickel. 5000-5700C+ Inner core
    17. 14 layers or more - just pick and choose to find 7 - - - and be silent about the others. Honesty is impressive in Islam.

       

      What Islam has done to find 7 Earths here, is the same as for finding 7 Heavens in the atmosphere: One has taken the 4-5 standard layers, picked a couple more, and then are silent about the other layers. Our comments are very parallel to the ones for the 7 Heavens in the atmosphere. And also here there are imbecilities. Very little is mentioned about the 7 Earths in the Quran (65/12), but Hadiths make it clear that they have nature, flora, fauna, and sentient beings.

      The first thing to do, is to demand proofs for their claims - Muslims are very good at throwing around claims, and then leave it up to you to prove them wrong. This is to turn things upside down: It is the one producing a claim, who has "the burden of proof" = it is his job to prove it, not your to disprove it. And "a strong claim needs a strong proofs". The entire Islam has still not provided one single proof for their strong claims about the 7 Heavens in the atmosphere, nor about the 7 earths inside our globe, nor about our 6 continents (included Antarctic) = the 7 Earths, and "a claim without a proof, may be dismissed without a proof".

    366 67/3c: "- - - the Creation of (Allah) - - -". See 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c, 41/15f and 67/3a above.

    #####367 67/5a: “And We (Allah*) have (from of old), adorned the lowest (37/6-7, 41/12) heaven with Lamps (Stars*)- - -”. The Quran’s picture of cosmos is taken from Greek and/or Persian astronomy, and as any secondary school child not blinded by religious indoctrination can see; it is much wrong. For one thing the heavens have to be made from something material to make possible fixing the stars to one of them. Besides: From Greek etc. astronomy we know that the planets, stars, sun and moon were fixed to 7 (or in a way 8) different heavens. As the stars according to the Quran is fixed to the lowest, they have to be lower than the than the moon. But what happens if you try to place stars like say Betelgeuse or Aldebaran or even Helios - our sun - below Luna - our moon?

    Further: Our rockets cannot go too high - f.x. not to the moon - as they will collide with the material heavens. Muhammad said the Quran is perfect and without mistakes or flaws. The Quran says the Quran is perfect and without mistakes or flaws. Islam says the Quran is perfect and without mistakes or flaws. Muslims say the Quran is perfect and without mistakes or flaws. All of them say the Quran is perfect and without mistakes or flaws because Allah sent down a book he had made or which had existed forever - a book which is the revered “Mother Book” (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in the heaven of Allah - and an omniscient god can neither make mistakes nor revere texts containing lots of wrong facts, other mistakes, contradictions, flaws and other hallmarks of cheats and deceivers. Also see 67/3 above and 67/5b+c just below.

    BUT WHAT DO ALL THOSE WORDS HELP WHEN THE MISTAKES, CONTRADICTIONS, AND THE FLAWS ARE THERE ANYHOW? AND WHEN ISLAM TELLS THAT THE TOTAL LACK OF ANY MISTAKE IN THE QURAN PROVES IT IS FROM ALLAH, WHAT THEN DO MEGA BLUNDERS LIKE THIS PROVE?

    368 67/5d: (A67/5 – omitted in 2008 edition): “We (Allah*) have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven (out of the 7 the Quran frequently tells about, and which Muhammad even visited*) with lamps (stars*), and We have made such (lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones - - -.” But the disagreement concerns: Is it the stones in the shooting stars that chase jinns, etc. away? – the Arab word “rudjum” – plural of “radjm” means “throwing of stones” or “stoning” (one name for the Devil f.x. is “ar-radjim” = “the stoned one”). Or is it the fire? – the Quran really mention the fire. Once more: Start guessing. (The 2008 edition of “The Message of the Quran” even has got a new one – at least new to us: The Quran is not talking about stars used like shooting stars, but used as objects for divination by the bad astrologers. They need a lot of easy words to reach that conclusion, but so what? – as we have indicated before: Sometimes the religion is more essential than honesty and intellectual integrity. Though we have touched this theme before, we ask again: What does it indicate that a religion has to resort to cheating and dishonesty? Normally such methods mean that one does not have real arguments. In religion there also is the serious fact: If there is a next life, and if a religion needs to build its life on lies – even only partly – that is a strong indication for that this religion is not based on the truth. And in that case its believers will not wake up in any Paradise.)

    The Islamic universe. 7 Heavens, 7 Earths, and Hell.

    According to the Quran the “everything” is like this:

    On top of all - above the 7. heaven - Allah has his residence.

    Seven heavens above the Earth – one on top of the other. They have names, guardian angel, and gates.

    The heavens are resting on the Earth by means of invisible pillars.

    In between the heavens are the sun (?) and the moon.

    The sun is a flat disk (if not it cannot be folded up like it does at the Day of Doom).

    The 7 heavens contain Paradise - the higher heavens are for top Muslims.

    The lower heaven is for "normal good" Muslims - split in at least 4 gardens = 4 qualities.

    Under heavens, and fastened to the lowest (37/6-7, 41/12) one, are all the stars.

    Allah often uses stars as shooting stars to chase away jinns and bad spirits spying on Heaven.

    Under the heavens and stars are clouds – which Allah sometimes breaks to pieces (rain).

    Under that the birds are kept up there by the will of Allah only.

    On the Earth mountains are set down - or really dropped down.

    The reason why Allah has set down mountains on Earth is to stabilize it - if not it can start wobbling and tip over (This is the Quran's real meaning).

    (Modern Muslims claims the mountains are set down to reduce earthquakes - but mountains do not reduce earthquakes (on the contrary sometimes)).

    According to Hadiths 2 of the rivers on Earth starts in Heaven - the Nile and Euphrates.

    Earth was – according to the Quran - created together with the heavens from something like smoke which Allah ordered to come together to one mass and then he split asunder. One part became our flat Earth (or really "earths" as there are 7 (65/12) – one on top of the other according to Hadiths) and the other became heaven, or actually the 7 material heavens which lies above Earth. (For more about this, see the about the creation of heaven).

    On the Earth also all kinds of beings live – created from clay or something or nothing.

    Man - Adam - is created in 13 different ways if you count exactly and strictly (5 - 7 if you are kind-hearted towards Islam).

    All this is existing or living on our flat Earth.

    There are 7 earths - according to Hadiths the others are under "our" Earth.

    According to Hadiths Islam knows the names of the 7 earths - and the name of their people.

    Underneath everything is Hell

     

    (we have not found out for sure if it is situated in the world Ajiba).

    The lower the earth the more Hell-like is the situation for its inhabitants, Hadiths tell.

    And at the bottom Hell (?)

     

    All this (possibly with the exception of Paradise and Hell) was created in 6 - or 8 - days.

    That it took 6 days, is mentioned at least in 10/3 – 11/7 – 25/59 – 32/4 – 50/38 - 57/4. But science tells a very different story.

    Just like your teacher of geography told you? And who created this nonsense?

    ##(YA5570):"He (Allah*) Who creates must necessarily know His own handiwork". This is very correct, so when the Quran shows that the maker of that book clearly do not know the reality, it is a strong proof for that something is very wrong somewhere.

    The 7 heavens, its guardian angels, and its gates:

    1. Gharibya, angel Razquel, gate made from shining light.
    2. Rafqa, angel Shamkhael, gate made from white pearl.
    3. atqa, angel Kalkael, gate made from gold.
    4. Arqlun, angel Salsael, gate made from silver.
    5. un, angel Saadiel, gate made from topaz.
    6. Faydum, angel Michael, gate made from ruby.
    7. Birqi, angel Ismael, gate made from emerald.

     

    The 7 heavens were Greek and Persian astronomy. One observed 7 movements on the firmament - the stars, the sun and the moon, plus Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn (the other planets were not visible to the naked eye) - and thus needed 7 invisible heavens to fasten them to, to explain why they did not fall down on Earth. Any - any - god had known better. Then who made the Quran?

    The 7 Earths and Hell - and their people:

    (As you see included "our" Earth - scientific name Tellus - Islam lists 8 Earths, but if you recon Ajiba to contain Hell, there are 7 + Hell. We have not found out of this for sure.)

    The scientific name of the people on our Earth is Homo Sapiens. That means "the thinking human" or "knowing human". There are times when there are reasons for believing that name is an ironical joke - f.x. when leaders demand blindness, blind belief, and acceptance/belief in obviously wrong facts and/or obviously invalid logic.

    If there somewhere is a god who is behind the creation or development of man, his second most valuable gift - after life itself - is our brain. If it is a gift from a god, it is an insult to this god to use blind belief instead of the brain.

    1. Ramaka. People: Muwasshim, in everlasting torment and divine retribution.
    2. Khalada. People: Tamis, eating their own flesh, drinking their own blood.
    3. Arqa. People: Qays, eating dirt, drinking mother's milk. Pest: Mulelike eagles with spearlike tails and poisenous quills.
    4. Haraba. People: Jilla, have no eyes, hands, or feet, but batlike wings. Pest: the snakes of Hell, large as mountains.
    5. Maltham. People: Hajla, eat each other. Pest: carry stones of sulfur around their neck - may burn.
    6. Sijjin. People: Qatat, look like birds, worship Allah. Pest(?): contains the register of Hell.
    7. Ajiba. People: Khasum, black and short, with claws like lions. Pest: Iblis/the Devil lives here (Hell?). Gog and Magog will end here.

     

    According to f.x. Al-Bukhari the Earths are placed one above the other – easy as the Quran tells the Earth(s) is/are flat. The lower down, the more devilish life on the respective layer – and if you are a big enough sinner, you can fall down through them all at the Day of Doom. It is not necessary to say it is all rubbish.

    Also see 2/131 – 7/61 - 7/67 – 7/104 – 7/121 – 10/3 – 26/16 – 26/23 – 26/47 – 26/77 – 26/98 – 26/109 – 26/127 – 26/145 – 27/8 – 27/44 – 32/2 – 37/87 – 38/87 – 39/74 – 41/9 – 43/46 – 45/36 - 56/80 – 59/16 – 68/52 – 69/43 – 81/27 – 81/29 – 83/6 and many more. All these places mention “the worlds” in plural – f.x. “Lord of the Worlds (Allah*)” – and reference to the 7 worlds. But beware of a stumbling stone here: The Quran also in 1 – 2 cases uses the expression “the Worlds” in another connection – Muslim scholars believe it in that or those couple of cases refers to “man and Jinn” or “man and woman”. In western languages it is not possible to see the difference, because our nouns only have singular and plural. But in Arab (and some other languages) it is different: They have singular, dual (= 2), and plural. We are informed that in all such cases where the original Arab text has plural, it refers to the 7 non-existing Earths (well, one exists, even though it is not flat). But if the Arab text any place has the noun "Worlds" in dual, it just that place is referring to something else - like "man and jinn".

     

    The 7 gates of Hell:

    Like the heavens also Hell has 7 gates. They open to 7 parts of Hell, one worse than the next.

    1. Gehanna.
    2. Laza.
    3. Hutama.
    4. Sair.
    5. Saquar.
    6. Jahim. (This one is for Jews, Christians, and Sabeans - "the People of the Book".
    7. Hawiya.

Once more: Just like your teacher of geography told you? And who created this nonsense?

Once more: ##(YA5570):"He (Allah*) Who creates must necessarily know His own handiwork". This is very correct, so when the Quran shows that the maker of that book clearly does not know the reality, it is a strong proof for that something is very wrong somewhere. For more see 65/12a-b-c above.

369 67/14a: "- - - He (Allah*) that created - - -". See f.x. 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c and 41/15f above.

##370 67/14b: (YA5570):"He (Allah*) Who creates must necessarily know His own handiwork". This is very correct, so that when the Quran shows he clearly does not know the reality, it is a strong proof for that something is very wrong somewhere concerning the Quran - and thus also concerning Muhammad and Islam.

################THIS SENTENCE ALONE, COMBINED WITH ALL THE ERRORS AND WORSE IN THE QURAN, SHOULD PROVE THAT THE QURAN IS NOT FROM THE MAKER OF THE WORLD, OF THE UNIVERSE, AND OF LIFE.

371 67/15a: "It is He (Allah*) who has made the earth manageable for you (people*)". One of the many never documented claims in the Quran. See 11/7a above.

372 67/23b: "It is He (Allah*) Who has created you - - -". At least not in all the ways the Quran claims it was done - and actually science has found that man was not created, but developed from earlier primates. Also see 6/2b above. (Or if it here is meant you as a single person, see 11/7a above).

373 67/23c: "- - - (Allah*) made for you the faculties of hearing, seeing, feeling and understanding - - -". See 11/7a above.

374 67/24b: "It is He (Allah*) Who has multiplied you through the earth - - -". Many will protest and tell that multiplying they have managed themselves - and with pleasure. Also see 11/7a above.

375 71/14b: "- - - He (Allah*) who has created you in diverse stages". This is old Greek and perhaps Persian zoology and physiology - f.x. the great Greek thinker Galen thought a fetus was made in stages, and this - as you see from this verse in the Quran - was what was correct science in Arabia, too, at the time of Muhammad. Any god had known that the making of a fetus and then a baby, is a continual process.

#######376 71/15a: “- - - Allah has created the seven heavens one above another - - -”. Wrong - it hardly is possible to be more wrong, as there are no 7 heavens. But you find these claims about 7 heavens/firmaments/tracts in 2/29d+e, 17/44a, 23/17a, 23/86a, 41/12a+b, 65/12a, 65/5, 67/3a+b and 71/15a+b - all together the Quran mentions "heavens" in plural at least 199 times; there is no doubt the Quran means there are 7 heavens (and as the stars are fastened to the lowermost of them - f.x. 67/5a - they have to be material ones (if not the stars could not be fastened to it)). In 67/3 you also are told they are places one above the other, which means they of course are built successively higher above the Earth - which also is clear from most places in the Quran where the place of the heavens are indicated. Some modern Muslims try to place the heavens in space, deep space included. But among others 67/3 prohibits this, as "up" and "down" ("one above the other") has no meaning as part of the real space. And how should god Muslims resurrected bodily in the heavens breathe in space? - there is not enough or even no air.

By the way: 65/12b also claims there are 7 Earths, and gives their names according to Islam. Also see 67/5d above.

377 71/15-16a: “- - - Allah has created the seven (material - see the Mega Mistakes in "www.1000mistakes.com, Book A*) heavens, one above the other - - -.” It is not possible to be more wrong. Who above 3. grade primary school needs a comment here? 7 (material) heavens and the moon in between them somewhere (and remember the stars are fixed to the lowest heaven (37/6-7, 41/12), so they are below the moon! We do not bother to comment this. But also see 67/5d above.

378 71/15-16b: “- - - Allah has created the seven (material- see the Mega Mistakes*) heavens, one above the other, and made the moon a light in their midst - - -.” The moon is in between them somewhere (and remember the stars are fixed to the lowest heaven, so they are below the moon!)!! We do not bother to comment on this - except that the moon is not behind and beyond the stars. If the Moon (Luna) had been beyond even the nearest star, we hardly had been able to see it even in a space telescope. Not to mention what had happened if a star had been between us and Luna - our moon - where Luna is now!

379 71/17a: "- - - Allah has produced you - - -". See 11/7a above. Also not possible unless Allah exists and is a god.

380 71/17b: "- - - Allah has produced you from the earth - - -". Wrong. See 6/2b above. (Though perhaps it here is meant that you have grown because you have eaten food grown on the earth, though this is not indicated in the Quran - and none of the other ways Adam is claimed created can be explained in this way.)

381 71/18b: "- - - and raise you forth (again at the Resurrection)". Again this interesting claim, as neither Muhammad nor Allah ever was able to prove Allah’s power of resurrection - and also nothing else of any consequence. Whereas if the old books tell the truth on that point, Yahweh several times proved he had such power.

382 71/18c: "- - - and raise you forth (again at the Resurrection)". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells that it will be Yahweh who resurrects you, not Allah.

##383 71/19: “And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread) out.” The Quran describes the Earth flat - may be round like a disc, but flat. Wrong. (Similar description in 15/19, 20/53, 43/10, 79/30, 88/70). Actually it is nowhere directly said that the Earth is flat - it was such a matter-of-course that there was no reason for mentioning it. But everything the Earth is compared with in the Quran, is flat.

##384 72/16d: "- - - We (Allah*) should certainly bestowed on them Rain in abundance." See 11/7a above.

385 73/20b: “Allah doth appoint night and day in due measures.” This is dictated by someone who knew nothing about the far south and the far north - facts and reality and nature is different from what would be "due measures" and more for most beings - included man - there at times. But Muhammad did not know that. Any god had known. Also see 11/7a above.

387 75/38a: "- - - then did (Allah') fashion (him (a man*)) in due proportion". See 11/7a above.

388 75/40b: "Has not He (Allah*) - - - the power to give life to the dead?". Resurrection. Nobody really knows, as Allah never has proved he had such power - there are a lot of claims and words, but only words, and words are cheap, especially when they come from a man and politician of dubious moral quality, documented to use lies (al-Taqiyya, Kitman) and even broken oaths - and worse. And liking riches for bribes for attracting or keeping followers, not to mention liking power - and women. The funny situation is that if the Quran and/or the Bible tell the truth on this point, Yahweh has proved his power over life and death, but Allah not - he has not even proved his existence. Also see 7/158i above.

Definitely a rhetorical (leading) question - one pretending there only exists the answer "yes".

We quote: "'Surely' (etc.*) and rhetorical questions - whenever you encounter these in a text, stop and think. The author usually wants you to skate over them as if the claim is so obvious as to be beyond doubt, or the answer self-evident. The opposite is often the case." (Graham Lawton.) Try to count such cases in the Quran - they are MANY. Especially the never proved claim "the Truth" and similar are very often used.

389 76/2b: “Verily, We (Allah*) created man (used like this, it is clear that “man” represents the human race, Adam*) from a drop with mingled sperm, so We gave him (the gifts) of Hearing and Sight”. It is not said from where the sperm came, and the author obviously does not know about the egg cell, but that aside:

This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 16/4, 96/2 that tell man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 27 other verses. And in this case also minimum 27 contradictions.)

390 76/28a: "It is We (Allah*) Who created them (non-Muslims*) - - -". Yet another of the never proved claims. And a very interesting one, as neither Allah, nor Muhammad ever was able to prove Allah had the power of creating or recreating anything at all, whereas if the old books tell the truth on this point, Yahweh proved so several times. Also see 6/2b above.

391 77/20a: “Have We (Allah*) not created you - - -". See 6/2b and 11/7a above.

392 78/6a: “Have We (Allah*) not made the earth a wide expanse - - -?” We know from other places in the Quran that this expanse is flat, and may be round like a disk, but flat. Wrong: The real Earth is a sphere.

A never proved claim pretended by Muhammad to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique.

393 78/8: “And (have We (Allah*)) not created you - - - ?” An unproved statement used as (invalid) proof - it is never proved that Allah created man - or anything else. See 6/2b, 11/7a, and 78/6b above.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique.

394 78/9: “(And has not Allah*) made your sleep for rest - - -”. Unproved statement used as (invalid) proof. Did Allah really invent sleep? See 11/7a and 78/6b above.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique. And one of the many natural phenomena the Quran without any proof takes as a "proof" for its god - in the same way as any believer in any religion may do on behalf of his/her claimed god(s). A totally invalied "proof" and a totally invalid rhetorical (leading) question.

As for rhetorical questions we quote: "'Surely' (etc.*) and rhetorical questions - whenever you encounter these in a text, stop and think. The author usually wants you to skate over them as if the claim is so obvious as to be beyond doubt, or the answer self-evident. The opposite is often the case." (Graham Lawton.) Try to count such cases in the Quran - they are MANY. Especially the never proved claim "the Truth" and similar are very often used.

395 78/10: “(And has not Allah*) made the night as a covering - - -”. Did Allah invent the night? - unproved statement used as proof. See 11/7a and 78/6b above. And is lack of light - nothing - a covering? Also see 11/7a and 78/9 above.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique.

396 78/11: “(And has not Allah*) made the day as a means of subsistence?” Did Allah really invent the day - or is it a by-product of the sun’s shining and the Earth‘s revolving? And was it really meant for subsistence, or was that, too, a by-product of the shining of the sun? Two statements used as proofs - both just unproved statements and both suspect. And both invalid as proof as long as it is not proved that Allah made it. Also see 11/7a, 78/6, and 78/9 above.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique.

##397 78/12a: “And (have We (Allah*) not) built over you - - - firmaments - - -?” For something to be built, materials have to be used – the heavens also from other pieces of information must be made from something material. Wrong: The sky as we see it, just is an optical illusion – or actually 2 (bending of sunlight makes the blue "sky" at day, out inability to see in 3 dimensions at those distances, makes the night sky look like being in 2 dimensions). That the Quran believes the firmaments are material, also is proved by the fact that it tells the stars are fastened to the lowest heaven (37/6-7, 41/12) - they could not be fastened unless there was something material to fasten it to.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique. In this case it is even worse, as the claimed "proof" is proved wrong. Also see 11/7a, 78/6, and 78/9 above.

##398 78/12b: “And (have We (Allah*) not) built over you the seven firmaments - - -?” Wrong: See 67/3 a, 67/3b, 67/5a and 67/5b above. Simply and doubly wrong.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique. In this case it is even worse, as the claimed "proof" is proved wrong. Also see 11/7a, 78/6, and 78/9 above.

399 78/12-13: “And have We (Allah*) not built over you the seven firmaments, and placed (therein) a light of Splendor (= the sun*)?” The sun is not placed among (“therein”) the 7 firmaments.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique. In this case it is even worse, as the claimed "proof" is proved wrong. Also see 11/7a, 78/6, and 78/9 above.

400 78/13: “And (has not Allah*) placed (therein) a Light (the sun*) of Splendor - - -”. One more lose and suspect statement (did Allah create the sun?) without proofs, used as a proof. Entirely without value - and a kind of proof no god would use. Also see 11/7a, 78/6, and 78/9 above.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique.

401 78/14: “And do We (Allah*) not send down from the clouds water in abundance - - -”. Invalid as a proof, as it is not proved that Allah has anything to do with the rain at all.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique. Also see 11/7a, 78/6, and 78/9 above.

402 78/15: “(And*) That We (Allah*) may produce therewith (rain) corn (Americans: Not maize - it did not exist in "the old world" until well after Columbus) and vegetables - - -”. Also this proof is invalid because it is based on lose presumptions, not proved facts - it is nowhere proved that Allah has anything to do with the growing of anything. Also see 11/7a, 78/6, and 78/9 above.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique.

403 78/16: “And (do not Allah produce) gardens of luxurious growth?” See 11/7a, 78/6, and 78/9 above.

A never proved claim pretended to be a proved fact - Muslims and Islam often use this technique.

404 79/29: "Its (the firmament's?*) night doth He (Allah*) endow with darkness, and its splendor He bringeth out (with light (the stars and the moon*))". See 11/7a above.

405 80/19a: “From a sperm-drop He (Allah*) hath created him (man*) - - -”. Wrong. Neither man (see 6/2a) nor a man (see 75/37) was created just from sperm.

406 80/21-32: Different natural phenomena Muhammad like so often claims for glorification and indication of his god - as always without the slightest proof. He just claims like any pagan priest claims for his pagan god(s).

407 80/22b: "- - - He (later*) will raise him (the man*) up again". This claim - resurrection made by Allah - is a claim which appears several places in the Quran, and we find it a very interesting one, because in the entire Quran there is not one single proved case of resurrection made by Allah - only the big words. In contrast you find resurrections backed by Yahweh several places in the Bible, both in the old and the New testament. If we presume that the books are correct on this point, Allah/Muhammad - as always - have proved nothing and may be bluffing, whereas Yahweh has proved his existence and power (this also according to the Quran, even though the Quran wrongly mixes Yahweh up with Allah). If, as said, the books tell the truth here. (For some reason or other Islam and its Muslims seldom claim that Islam is the religion of honesty.)

408 80/22c: "- - - He (later*) will raise him (the man*) up again". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells this is done by Yahweh, not by Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just lose claims and as lose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

409 82/7a: "Him (Allah*) Whom created thee (humans*) - - -". This at least is what Muhammad claims - like always without any kind of documentation. Like all priests in all religions can claim just as easily as long as they can evade all requests for proofs. Also see 6/2b and 11/7a above. Wrong unless Islam proves the book true at this point at least

410 82/8: "In whatever form He (Allah*) wills, he put thee (a person*) together". One of the Quran's nearly unending number of never proved claims.

411 85/13a: "It is He (Allah*) Who creates from the very beginning - - -". For one thing; never proved, for another, he describes creation completely wrong in the Quran (if he had been the creator, he had known better), for a third he tells in the Quran he has created Adam in many different ways - not even remembering from time to time how he created him. It sounds like he simply does not know what he is talking about, and in addition mixes up his own tales. No god had been so helpless - then who made the Quran?

412 85/13b: "- - - and He (Allah*) can restore (life)". Once more this interesting claim - interesting because Allah never one single time has proved he has this power, whereas if the Quran or the Bible tells the truth on this point, Yahweh has done so. And we remind you that the never proved Islamic claim that Allah = Yahweh is not true (the teachings fundamentally too different), and that science - and even more so Islam - has proved that the Bible is not falsified.

413 86/8b: "Surely (Allah*) is able to bring him (a person*) back to life". Once more this interesting claim - interesting because Allah never one single time has proved he has this power, whereas if the Quran or the Bible tells the truth on this point, Yahweh has done so several times (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt 27/52,Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10, the Quran 4/110i). And we remind you that the never proved Islamic claim that Allah = Yahweh is not true (the teachings fundamentally too different), and that science - and even more so Islam - has proved that the Bible is not falsified. Also see 7/158i above.

As for "surely" we quote: "'Surely' (etc.*) and rhetorical questions - whenever you encounter these in a text, stop and think. The author usually wants you to skate over them as if the claim is so obvious as to be beyond doubt, or the answer self-evident. The opposite is often the case." (Graham Lawton.) Try to count such cases in the Quran - they are MANY. Especially the never proved claim "the Truth" and similar are very often used.

414 87/2a: "(Allah*) Who has created - - -". Has he? - often claimed, never proved. (But Yahweh has proved it if the books tell the truth). Also see 6/1e, 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c+e and 41/15f above.

This claim is wrong unless Islam proves - proves - the opposite.

415 87/2b: "(Allah*) Who has created - - -". (YA6081): "The story of Creation is wonderful and continuous". You often meet Muslims claiming the Quran speaks about continuous creation like modern science has found. Wrong. When the Quran speaks about creation (except recreation or claims for that he can destroy and make new creations) it is always in the past tense, never in present or future tense. Creation in the Quran is something which happened and is finished - and happened in 6 or 8 days according to the Quran.

416 87/2c: "- - - (Allah*) Who has - - - given order and proportion - - -". Only possible if Allah exists and is a powerful god.

417 87/4-5: "- - - (it is Allah*) Who bringeth out the (green and luscious) pasture, and then doth make it but swarthy stubble". See 11/7a above.

418 90/4b: "Verily, We (Allah*) have created man - - -". Often claimed in the Quran - never proved. Like everything else in that book. But see 6/2b above.

419 90/8-11: "Have He (Allah*) not made for him (man*) a pair of eyes? - and a tongue, and a pair of lips? - - - " See 11/7a above.

As for rhetoric questions like this we quote: "'Surely' (etc.*) and rhetorical questions - whenever you encounter these in a text, stop and think. The author usually wants you to skate over them as if the claim is so obvious as to be beyond doubt, or the answer self-evident. The opposite is often the case." (Graham Lawton.) Try to count such cases in the Quran - they are MANY. Especially the never proved claim "the Truth" and similar are very often used.

##420 92/1b: “By (start of an oath*) the Night as it conceals (the light) - - -”. Wrong - it is Earth that conceals the light and causes the night. Besides the night is just lack of light = nothing. And neither nothing nor lack of light can conceal light. Any deity knows this and the physical laws behind it - Muhammad not. Who made the Quran? (See 91/4).

*421 92/3: “By (the mystery of) the creation of male and female - - -”. No mystery for us, no mystery for a god - a large mystery for Muhammad. (According to Hadiths he thought that if the woman climaxed first, it became a girl, but if the man climaxed first, it became a boy – and boys of course were best. Scientific nonsense.) Who made the Quran? Also see 18/37 – 32/8 – 35/11 – 40/67 – 75/37 – 77/20.

Also: Rape is a horror for most women, and they nearly never climax then. Practically all children made because of rape, should be boys according to this. They are not.

422 92/4a: "By (the mystery of) - - -". Muhammad/Allah swearing by a mystery - sentences in the Quran starting with "by" normally are oaths in the Quran. One of the clear indications in the Quran for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets, like the Quran likes to claim (in addition to that Muhammad was no real prophet - he "did not see the unseen", so he was unable to make prophesies (even though some Muslims try to claim the opposite in contradiction to what the Quran says itself), and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies, is no real prophet - - - but it is an impressive and imposing title to "borrow" - many a self proclaimed messenger from one or more real or made up gods have "borrowed" this title.

Also: Especially the NT very clearly states that you shall not swear at all (Matt 5/34), and it is clear that if you do so all the same, you have to honor your oath, whereas in the Quran you can break any oath if that gives a better result - pay expiation if necessary. (But to be fair: The Quran advises not to break a confirmed(!) oath if there is not a good reason. To break other oaths matters little.) This last part is a very clear proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion - as the moral code is too deeply different.

##423 95/4a: “We (Allah*) have indeed created man - - -". Wrong. See 6/2b, 21/56c and 41/15f above.

424 96/1b: "(Allah*) Who Created - - -". Often claimed in the Quran - never proved. If you read the Quran you only find words and claims and statements - nothing else.

##425 96/2a: “(Allah*) Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood - - -”. Neither man (see 6/2) nor a man (see 75/37) was made out of blood - congealed or not – even though some of the old Greeks believed so, and from whom Muhammad may have stolen this idea. But the start of a human or an animal - the sperm cell and the egg cell and then the zygote - is so small that it is not to be seen with your eyes only, in the blood and gore in a carcass or in a slaughtered animal. Muhammad believed that the semen was a seed which when planted in a woman, grew into a clot of blood that grew into a fetus. It may be worth mentioning that the statement in this verse, is like Aristotle’s theory. But any god had known better. Who composed the Quran? And why do Muslims never mention that so many of the “facts” in the Quran are in accordance with Greek and Persian (wrong) science at that time? And also:

This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing.

(Also see verse 6/2 in the chapter about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 30 other verses. And in this case also minimum 30 contradictions.)

*426 96/2b: “(Allah*) Created man out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood - - -”. The Quran believes that semen is a kind of seed that can start growing when “planted” in a woman. It becomes a clot of blood, then a small something, then a fetus and then little by little a baby. For a man without a microscope like Muhammad, it may be the best of explanations. But nature knew better - and an omniscient god had known better. Is this a proof for that babies are made by nature and not by someone "omniscient" who obviously does not know what he is talking about?

Besides who does this point to as the composer of the Quran? At least not to any god.

427 105/2a: "Did He (Allah*) not make their (the Abyssinians*) treacherous plan go astray". Was it in reality Allah or nature that sent the illness?

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It also is pretty thought provoking that f.x. all the errors, contradictions, wrong facts, etc., only and alone, in the Quran, prove 100% that there is no god behind that book. And that f.x. the fact that Jesus accepted OT as correct, proves to both Christians and Muslims that the OT was not falsified at that time - and that f.x. the Qumran scrolls prove that even OT was not falsified any time later, too.

It further is an insult to that possible god to "explain" that his texts means something different from what they really says = you are more clever than him at explaining what the god "really" meant, than the god is himself, even when he tries to explain things "clearly and easy to understand", and says his words are to be understood literally and without hidden meanings. Also only "the sick of heart" look for hidden meanings behind his words, according to the Quran - the very claimed hidden meanings the wise Muslims claim are what Allah really meant, but was unable to express clearly himself, so that they have to help the bumbling god and tell what he "really" tried to say. This in spite of that the Quran clearly states that meanings hidden behind Allah's clear and easy to understand words, only are possible for Allah to understand, and like said above are "only for the sick of heart" to look for.

May be as bad: To claim that the Quran means something different from what the texts clearly say, is to falsify and corrupt the quranic texts.

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