Allah in the Quran, Chapter 78


Chapter 78



You will find much about Muhammad in other chapters - f.x. the one about "GODS, PERSONS, AND OTHER BEINGS IN THE QURAN" - and in our other books about the Quran, f.x. "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" (

###### Another - and serious - point is that to "explain" that the Quran means something different from what it really says, is to corrupt it.

Also: What is sure, is that no god ever made a holy book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran. ### Besides: Which one of the 20-30 known versions accepted by Islam of the Quran (see 15/9c) - if any (and there were even more versions through the times) - is in case the correct one?

Finally: Always when you read the Quran, Hadiths, and other Islamic books, you should remember that Muhammad accepted the use of and himself used dishonesty in many forms in words and deeds. Even if the names are younger, it was he who institutionalized dishonesty like al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), the use of deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" is war), betrayal (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar), and even the disuse of oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2 - and the star case 3/54 (if Allah could cheat, cheating is ok)), which also includes the disuse of words and promises, as they are weaker than oaths = when oaths can be disused, so can words and promises. On top of this it is very clear from the Quran and all other central Islamic books, that Muhammad also liked respect and power and women. Combine these lusts with his acceptance of and personal use of dishonesty - even the gravest kinds: How reliable are that kind of men normally? - and how true and reliable are their never proved claims and tales?

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001 2/23d: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Servant - - -". No omniscient god brings a book that full of errors, etc., not to mention revere it in his "home" as a "mother book" like the Quran claims (13/39, 43/4, 85/21-22) - Muhammad thus is no servant of an omniscient god. Perhaps servant of someone or something, included of himself, but not of any omniscient god.

####002 2/76b: "- - - what Allah hath revealed to you - - -". This rather obscure sentence many Muslim scholar claims refer to the Islamic claim that Muhammad is mentioned in the Bible, here likely referred to 5. Mos. 18/15 and 18/18 (and conveniently omitting f.x. 18/1-2 and 18/20-21). The Quran clearly states that Muhammad is mentioned on both the OT and in the Gospels (NT), and is easy to find there, and then Islam HAS to find him there, because if not the Quran is wrong and a book from a god cannot be wrong - so if there is a mistake, this proves it is not from a god.

What is absolutely sure, is that Muhammad is not easy to find anywhere in the Bible - he is nowhere openly mentioned. Then Islam has to look for him in hidden places, in spite of the Quran's claim that he is easy to find both in OT and in NT. And the most frequent claim in OT is 5. Mos. 18/15 and 18/18, where Moses in a speech to Jews tells them that once there shall come a prophet like himself "from among their brothers". It is clear from the context that he meant from among the Jews, but Islam - the religion of the truth and the religion which claims you cannot understand the Quran unless you see the verses in context - drops the contexts and claims: "The Arabs are the brothers of the Jews - this is about Muhammad!"

We may add that they also drop a few other facts:

  1. The word "brother" or similar is used figuratively far more than 300 times in the Bible (at least 351 times according to our latest leafing through the book), and not one of these in connection with Arabs - practically always about members of a closed group (mainly Jews in OT - a few times including their recognized relatives the Edomites - and mainly fellow Christians in NT, though in NT a few times meaning all humanity as potential Christians).
  2. Of these the word is used at least 99 times in OT (see below in this comment) - also here mainly about members of a closed group: The Jews, sometimes included the Edomites as mentioned just above - and not a word about Arabs in such connections. Except for 1 reference to Lot (Abraham talking to his nephew - a very closed group) and 6 references to Edomites, which the Jews reckoned to be (distant) relatives as they were descendants of Esau, brother of Jacob and son of Isaac and thus inside the extended group, there are 5 exceptions from the rule that "brother" is about Jews in OT: The nomad Jacob talking to some shepherds (a closed group as he too was a shepherd and intended to mean "good friends"), 3 cases of one king talking to a fellow king (a very closed group) where the word means "good friends", and the sons of Ishmael who after all at that time were so closely related to the sons of Isaac, that they made a closed group (this relationship later was dismissed by the Jews for several reasons, the main of which may have been the enmity the sons of Ishmael showed towards their relatives, but also the fact that they were 3/4 Egyptian - both Ishmael's mother, Hagar (1. Mos. 16/1), and his wife (1. Mos. 20/20) were from Egypt - and thus not Jews, not to forget they were outside the covenant Yahweh made with Isaac, which were to be the lasting covenant with Yahweh (1. Mos. 21/12), and also not to forget the fact that they lived so far off - near the border of Egypt (1. Mos. 25/18) - that the connection for natural reasons (strengthened by their enmity) was severed and forgotten. But not one word about the slightest relationship to Arabs - this even more so as it is highly unlikely the Arabs are descendants of Ishmael, as his descendants as mentioned settled near the border of Egypt (1. Mos. 25/18) and not in Arabia. (Also science tells "it is practically sure Abraham never came to Mecca" - and then Ishmael had no connection there). In addition modern DNA science has showed that what we call Arabs, was - and is - not a coherent tribe, but a mixture of people from neighboring countries who drifted into Arabia and its desert and settled there when the domestication of the camel made life for humans possible there (the coastal areas were settled earlier), and later on. Before that only some tribes lived in the coastal areas and hardly any in the desert in inland Arabia.
  3. 5. Mos. is a speech Moses made to and about his fellow Jews, included some about their future. He used the words "brother/brothers" at least 31 times in his speech. With 2 exceptions (2/4 and 2/8) it is about members of the closed group the Jews - in spite of the wishful claims from Islam. Also the 2 exceptions are from a closed group including the Jews, but a somewhat extended one, as they include Edomites - descendants of Esau, the brother of Jacob (Esau also was called Edom). Esau was within the linage of the covenant which according to the Bible was promised by Yahweh, as he was the son of Isaac, through whom Yahweh according to the Bible said that linage should go (1. Mos. 21/12) and thus recognized as distant relatives of the Jews. Ishmael, from which the Arabs claim (most likely wrongly, as Ishmael and his descendants as mentioned settled near the border of Egypt and not in Arabia according to the Bible (1. Mos.25/18) - and in addition was outside this linage, and once more in addition placed themselves outside the group/family (1. Mos. 25/18)) they were and even more so became members of the outside. And not one word about the slightest relationship to Arabs in the entire speech or anywhere else in the whole Bible - and also nowhere in the Quran.
  4. The word is used 3 times in 5. Mos. 18, the short chapter Islam takes its quotes from (verses 2, 15 and 18), each time clearly meaning "your fellow Jews" like nearly all the other places in his speech. Not one word about the slightest relationship to Arabs.
  5. Worse: Arabs and Arabia is mentioned something like 15 times (see below in this comment) in OT according to our latest leafing through the book. Without exception the connection is neutral or negative or even very negative (enemies) - not one single positive connection, not to mention any close relationship, let alone brotherhood.
  6. Even worse: The words "brother" "brethren", and "brothers" also are used figuratively at least 33 times in the Quran (see further down in this comment) - not one time linking Jews and Arabs. (There is one after a fashion exception: Hypocrites and Jews are linked - but that is something else). Also here the word is used within closed groups - like in the Bible. And not one word in the entire Quran about Jews and Arabs being brothers. Not even a whisper.
  7. Worst: Moses in his speech said "a prophet like me". But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet was a person who could see at least parts of the unseen, and thus a person who:
    1. Have the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.
    2. Makes prophesies that always or at least mostly come true.
    3. Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for any person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not guess the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking. (Clearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion. Definitely not a problem an omniscient god would have had).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying, that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future, came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen (extra revealing here is that the old Biblical title for a prophet, was "a seer" - one who saw the unseen (see further down)) and also that there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran” (prophesying is a kind of miracle - seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracle connected to Muhammad "except the revelation of the Quran" also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories). We also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah, according to Hadiths (f.x. Al-Bukhari) states that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden and what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet.

Also relevant here is, as said, that the original title of the Jewish prophets was not "prophet", but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F.x. 1. Sam. #9/9, 1. Sam. 9/11, 1. Sam. 9/18, 1. Sam. 9/19, 2. Kings. 17/13, 1. Chr. 9/22, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1. Chr. 29/29, 2. Chr. 9/29, 2. Chr. 16/7, 2. Chr.16/10, 2. Chr. 19/2, 2. Chr. 29/25, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side in transition periods). Muhammad thus so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen".

Many liked - and like - the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for this title - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something or himself - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.

###This is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why. It also is anybody's guess why he more often used the far less imposing title "Messenger" - a messenger boy is something far smaller than a prophet. Did he know or suspect that it was not true, and that explanations for the lack of prophesies from a self proclaimed prophet would be difficult to explain? Like the reason why he so seldom claimed he was found in the Bible, may have been that he knew or suspected it was not true?

Besides: To belong in a special line of prophets, the teachings and the prophesies of course must be in line with the other prophets in that line, because a god follows a steady course and teaching (one of the proofs for that something is wrong with the Quran - Allah changes too much back and forth in his claimed teachings, and especially so if he had been identical to Yahweh: From rather harsh up to Jesus, then mild under the new covenant, then harsher, but reasonably mild under Muhammad in Mecca, and finally a full and partly immoral and unjust war god in Medina from ca. 622 - 624 AD when Muhammad started to need warriors to gain riches (mainly for bribes) and power). If not, one either belongs to another line - another god with another teaching/religion - or one simply is a false prophet (there have been many more false prophets than real ones through the times). Muhammad's religion was far from both the OT and even much further from NT, and in addition he was unable to make prophesies - even if he had been a prophet, he is far too far from the teaching of Yahweh and Yahweh’s Jewish prophets. He is not in that line of prophets and not speaking for the same god - too much is different. The Quran simply may be one of the many apocryphal - made up - manuscripts/books more or less loosely built on Biblical traditions and "adjusted" to fit the religious teaching of sects more or less distant from the mother religion - the Quran in case is one of the more distant ones.

Also see 30/40h below.

The claim in reality is logical rubbish and taken far out of the context. But it is the only "real" claim they try to cling to (there are some others, but they are even more far out) - they have to, because if not the Quran is wrong and thus not from a god and Islam a made up religion. Also see the chapter "Muhammad in the Bible" in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" - - and 2/77a and 7/157e below.

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

The word "brother", "brothers", "brotherhood" used figuratively in OT:

  1. 1. Mos. 13/8: Abraham said so to Lot, his nephew. A much closed group.
  2. 1. Mos. 25/18: Ishmael’s sons lived in hostility to "all their brothers". This may mean they fought each other or that they were hostile to the Jews - in both cases they at this time were members of a much closed group: Close relatives as Ishmael was the brother of Isaac. From the context we think the latter meaning is intended. But this relationship for several reasons over time drifted into nothing. It also is highly unlikely the Arabs are descendants of Ishmael, as the only somewhat reliable source about these - the Bible - tells they settled near the border of Egypt (1. Mos. 25/18) and not in Arabia (not to mention in Mecca). Also science says "it is practically sure that Abraham never was in Mecca" - so Ishmael had no connection that way, too. And not least: Ishmael and his descendant were outside the covenant between the Jews and Yahweh - a covenant made to Isaac (1. Mos.21/12). At the time the Books of Moses were written - at least 1000 years before Muhammad - there also was no reason for the writer to place Ishmael and his sons a wrong place. And not to forget: Modern science and DNA tests have shown that the Arabs is a mixed group, not a coherent tribe with a common forefather.
  3. 1. Mos. 29/4: Here in the meaning "dear friends" indicating peaceful intention. The nomad Jacob to some fellow shepherds.
  4. 3. Mos. 21/10: Fellow Jews - fellow priests even.
  5. 4. Mos. 20/3: Fellow Jews.
  6. 4. Mos. 20/14: Moses to the Edomites (= fellow descendants of Isaac and reckoned to be (distant) relatives of the Jews).
  7. 5. Mos. 1/16: Fellow Jews.
  8. 5. Mos. 1/16: Fellow Jews ("brother Israelites").
  9. 5. Mos. 1/28: Fellow Jews (the spies into Canaan).
  10. 5. Mos. 2/4: Edomites - fellow descendants of Isaac.
  11. 5. Mos. 2/8: Edomites - fellow descendants of Isaac.
  12. 5. Mos. 3.18: Fellow Jews ("brother Israelites").
  13. 5. Mos. 3/20: Fellow Jews.
  14. 5. Mos. 10/9: Fellow Jews - the 11 other tribes of Jews are the brothers of the Levites (12. tribe).
  15. 5. Mos. 15/2: Fellow Jew "- - - fellow Israelite or brother - - -" = fellow Jew = brother.
  16. 5. Mos. 15/7: Fellow Jews ("your (Jewish*) brothers").
  17. 5. Mos. 15/7: Fellow Jews ("your poor brother (Jew*)").
  18. 5. Mos. 15/9: Fellow Jews (your needy (Jewish*) brother).
  19. 5. Mos. 15/11: Fellow Jews.
  20. 5. Mos. 17/15: Fellow Jew (their king had to be "from among your own brothers" = a Jew).
  21. 5. Mos. 17/15: Fellow Jew (take no king who is not a Jew - "not a brother Israelite").
  22. 5. Mos. 18/2: Fellow Jews (Levites "shall have no inheritance among their brothers" - among the 11 other Jewish tribes).
  23. 5. Mos. 18/15: Fellow Jew ("a prophet like me (Moses*) from among your own brothers" - note the similarity of the expression with f.x. 17/15 and 18/2 - also see the texts of the two under 17/15).
  24. 5. Mos. 18/18: Fellow Jew ("a prophet like you (Moses*) from among their own brothers". Identical to 18/15, except here Yahweh is speaking.
  25. 5. Mos. 19/18: Fellow Jew - this is from Moses' speech to and about his Jews like all in 5. Mos.
  26. 5. Mos. 19/19: Fellow Jew - see 19/18 just above.
  27. 5. Mos. 20/8: Fellow Jew.
  28. 5. Mos. 22/1: Fellow Jew.
  29. 5. Mos. 22/2: Fellow Jew.
  30. 5. Mos. 22/3: Fellow Jew.
  31. 5. Mos. 22/4: Fellow Jew.
  32. 5. Mos. 23/7: Edomites - see 4.Mos 20/14 above.
  33. 5. Mos. 23/19: Fellow Jew.
  34. 5. Mos. 23/20: Fellow Jew ("a brother Israelite").
  35. 5. Mos. 24/7: Fellow Jew ("his brother Israelite").
  36. 5. Mos. 25/3: Fellow Jew.

  37. 5. Mos. 33/16: Fellow Jews ("Joseph" here means the tribe - actually the 2 half-tribes Manasseh and Ephraim - and thus figurative meaning).
  38. 5. Mos. 33/24: Fellow Jews - the other 11 Jewish tribes.
  39. Joshua 1/14: Fellow Jews - ahead of the other Jews.
  40. Joshua 1/14: Fellow Jews - help other Jews.
  41. Joshua 14/8: Fellow Jews - the other spies to Canaan.
  42. Joshua 22/3: Fellow Jews.
  43. Joshua 22/4: Fellow Jews.
  44. Joshua 22/7: Fellow Jews.
  45. Joshua 22/8: Fellow Jews.
  46. Judges 1/3: Fellow Jews (the tribe of Simonites were the "brothers" of the tribe of Judah.
  47. Judges 1/17: Fellow Jews - see Judges 1/3 just above.
  48. Judges 9/3: Fellow Jews - Abimelech was the "brother" of the people in Shechem.
  49. Judges 9/18: Fellow Jews - see Judges 9/3 just above.
  50. Judges 18/8: Fellow Jews - other members of the Jewish tribe Dan.
  51. Judges 18/14: Fellow Jews - see Judges 18/8 just above.
  52. Judges 20/23: Fellow Jews - Benjamites were the brothers of the other 11 Jewish tribes.
  53. Judges 20/28: Fellow Jews - see Judges 20/23 just above.
  54. Judges 21/6: Fellow Jews - see Judges 20/23 above.
  55. 1. Sam. 30/23: Fellow Jews - David's men.
  56. 2. Sam. 1/26: Fellow Jew - a close Jewish friend of David.
  57. 2. Sam. 2/26: Fellow Jews.
  58. 2. Sam. 2/27: Fellow Jews.
  59. 2. Sam. 19/12: Fellow Jews.
  60. 2. Sam. 19/41: Fellow Jews - the Judah tribe was the brother of the other Jewish tribes.
  61. 2. Sam. 20/9: Fellow Jew.
  62. 1. Kings 9/13: An exception: Greetings between 2 kings - but a closed group: Kings.
  63. 1. Kings 12/24: Fellow Jews.
  64. 1. Kings 13/30: Fellow Jew.
  65. 1. Kings 20/32: Similar to 1. Kings 9/13.
  66. 1. Kings 20/32: Similar to 1. Kings 9/13.
  67. 1. Chr. 13/2: Fellow Jews.
  68. 1. Chr. 15/16: Fellow Jews - fellow Levites actually.
  69. 1. Chr. 15/17: Fellow Jews (fellow Levites).
  70. 1. Chr. 15/17: Fellow Jews - the Merarites of Levi.
  71. 1. Chr. 15/18: Fellow Jews.
  72. 1. Chr. 23/30: Fellow Jews (fellow Levites).
  73. 1. Chr. 24/31: Fellow Jews (fellow Levites).
  74. 1. Chr. 24/31: Fellow Jew (fellow Levite).
  75. 1. Chr. 28/2: Fellow Jews - David's men and underlings.
  76. 2. Chr. 11/4: Fellow Jews.
  77. 2. Chr. 19/10: Fellow Jews.
  78. 2. Chr. 29/15: Fellow Jews (fellow Levites).
  79. 2. Chr. 30/7: Fellow Jews.
  80. Ezra 3/8: Fellow Jews.
  81. Ezra 6/20: Fellow Jews (the priests).

  82. Ezra 7/18: Fellow Jews ("your brother Jews").
  83. Ezra 8/24: Fellow Jews.
  84. Nehemiah 5/1: Fellow Jews ("their Jewish brothers").
  85. Nehemiah 5/8: Fellow Jews ("our Jewish brothers").
  86. Nehemiah 5/8: Fellow Jews.
  87. Nehemiah 10/29: Fellow Jews.
  88. Nehemiah 13/13: Fellow Jews.
  89. Isaiah 66/5: Fellow Jews (must be Jews as believing in Yahweh, at least officially).
  90. Isaiah 66/20: Fellow Jews - bringing them from other countries they have lived.
  91. Jeremiah 7/15: Fellow Jews - from the Jewish tribe Ephraim.
  92. Jeremiah 22/18: Fellow Jews.
  93. Ezekiel 11/14: Fellow Jews - your brothers included all Israel.
  94. Hosea 2/1: Fellow Jews.
  95. 96 Amos 1/11: Edom (descendants of Esau - see 4. Mos. 20/14 above) will be punished for sins against Jews.
  96. Obadiah 1/12: Similar to Amos 1/11 just above.

  97. Micah 5/5: Fellow Jews.
  98. Zech. 10/14: Fellow Jews - Judah and Israel (the southern and the northern Jewish country).

There may be a few more. For one thing we may have overlooked one or a few, and for another there are a number of cases where it is not clear whether it is meant literary or figurative, and these cases we have omitted if we were not pretty sure it was meant figuratively.

Also worth noticing here is that the few times - f.x. only 2 in Moses' speech = 5. Mos. - when Jews are not intended, the intended groups always are named or clearly indicated. No Arabs are named or intended anywhere in his speech - or anywhere else neither in the Bible nor in the Quran in such connection.

Are anybody able to find Arab brothers of the Jews here? - especially when you know there are no such ones also in the Quran, and that the some 15 times Arabs and Arabia are mentioned in OT, they either are mentioned in neutral words, in negative words, or as enemies, and never as friends, not to mention close friends or relatives.