1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 83 -- AL-MUTAFFIFIN (The Dealers in Fraud)

Revelation: Mecca, 622 AD (perhaps the last surah in Mecca)

(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)


 

The quotes and comments

001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 83/1a: "Woe to those that deals in fraud - - -". What then to Muslims if the Quran simply is fraud? - it at least is not from a god.

003 83/1b: "Woe to those that deals in fraud - - -". Literally speaking: One of the plusses for Islam is it’s that it insists on fair deals in trade - though one or two verses may indicate that it counts more to be honest towards Muslims than towards others.

004 83/5a: "- - - a Mighty Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

005 83/5b: "- - - the Lord (Allah*) of the worlds". Similar often claimed, but never proved - not even Allah's existence is proved.

006 83/6: “- - - the Worlds - - -.” See 65/12 and 81/27 above.

007 83/7a: "- - - surely - - -". See f.x. 81/19a and 2/2b above.

008 83/7b: "- - - the Record of the Wicked - - -". Why does an omniscient god need a record?

009 83/7c: "- - - the Wicked - - -". One of Muhammad's many distaste - or stronger - inducing names for non-Muslims.

010 83/7d: "- - - sijjin - - -". This is a made up word which no-one really knows the meaning of. It may come from "sijn" (prison) and may be the name or the description of the register(YA6013). But it also may mean (translated from Swedish) "that which lasts" (A83/2). But both these just are educated guessing. In the English 2008 edition after Muhammad Asad, they have "solved" the whole problem by omitting the word entirely and translated it with: "- - - in a mode inescapable." Well, according to Islam the language in the Quran is simple and impossible not to understand. But also see 87/9 below.

011 83/8: "- - - sijjin - - -". See 83/7d just above.

012 83/9: "(There is) a Register (fully) inscribed". Once more: Why does an omniscient god need a Register?

013 83/10a: "- - - that Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

014 83/10b: "- - - those that deny - - -". One of Muhammad's many distaste - or stronger - inducing names for non-Muslims.

015 83/11: "Those that deny the Day of Judgment". One of Muhammad's many distaste - or stronger - inducing names for non-Muslims.

016 83/12a: "- - - none can deny it (the Day of Doom*) - - -". As it is outside the human sphere of living, denial is not possible, even though skepticism may be strong as to if the Quran's description is correct. But also no proof has ever been produced, and as proof would be easy for a god and very efficient for getting more followers (in spite of the Quran's claims about this), this is strange.

017 83/12b: "- - - the Transgressor beyond bonds - - -". One of Muhammad's many distaste - or stronger - inducing names for non-Muslims.

018 83/13a: “- - - Our (Allah’s*) Signs - - -.” There exists no sign clearly from Allah, neither in the Quran, nor anywhere else. See 2/39b and 2/99.

019 83/13b: "- - - he (a skeptic*) says (to Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

020 83/13c: "- - - he (a skeptic*) says (to Muhammad*), 'Tales of the - - -". How could this reliably be written in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened? One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

Also see 3/154e, 6/149a, 7/34a, 14/22b, and not least 27/22-26 above.

This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 23/9b above. 

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not, many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

021 83/13d: "Tales of the ancients!" Nearly nothing in the Quran is original stuff - it is "borrowed" from other religions - mainly the two from the Bible, old Persian pagan religion and old Arab pagan religion (even the god is the main pagan Arab god, al-Lah, renamed to Allah), and from old legends, folklore and even fairy tales - f.x. Luqman - but the tales were often twisted some to fit the new religion. There was good reason for the skeptics to not claim, but state that most of it just was "tales of the ancients". And strangely: All those tales were from in or around Arabia, even though the claimed god claimed to be an old god working all over the world and to all times. Even so he only found tales worthy his book in the Arab area and neighborhood.

022 83/14: "- - - the (ill) which they (non-Muslims*) do - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

023 83/15a: "Verily - - -". See f.x. 2/2b and 81/19a above.

024 83/15b: "- - - from (the Light of their (non-Muslims*) Lord (Allah*), that Day, will they be veiled." One thing is that Allah is not the lord of non-Muslims, at least not if they believe in another and existing god (f.x. Yahweh, who exists if the Bible and/or the Quran speaks the truth - though the Quran wrongly mixes him with Allah), and even more so if Allah is a made u god or some dark forces pretending to be a god. But the main thing just here, is that here is indicated the Quran; and a book full of mistakes, etc., and not from a god, does not mean much light.

025 83/15c: "- - - that Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

026 83/15d: "- - - veiled". Here: They will be unable to see the claimed light from Allah.

027 83/16: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) will enter the Fire of Hell". See 3/77b above.

028 83/17: "- - - (reality) - - -". See f.x. 81/19a above.

029 83/18a: "- - - verily - - -". See f.x. 81/19a above.

030 83/18b: "- - - the Record of the Righteous - - -". Even once more as the Quran never addresses this question: Why does an omniscient god need a record?

031 83/18c: "- - - the Righteous - - -" Muslims.

032 83/18d: "- - - Righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

033 83/18e: "- - - 'illyin - - -". One more constructed nobody knows the exact meaning of (see 83/7c above). The language is "clear, easy, and easy to understand".

034 83/18f: (YA6019): “- - - Illiyin - - -.” Literally this word means “the High Place”, but what does it mean here? One guess is “The Place where is kept the Register of the Righteous”. But it only is an “educated guess”. (And why does an omniscient god need a register? - at least he has a PC? - - - if his brain is not good enough.) 

035 83/18g: (A83/5) (translated from Swedish): "- - - illyin - - - is said to be plural of ''illi' or 'illiyyah' (height or elevated) or perhaps a plural without singular. In any case it is derived from the verb ''ala' which means 'to be (or become) high', or figuratively 'sublime' or 'elevated'. The form 'illiyin (or 'illiyyun'*) therefore may implicate approximately 'sublimely elevated'". Easy - and easy to understand - language in the Quran? PS: The 2008 English edition of Muhammad Asad has "jumped over" the whole problem, by dropping the word and simply writing "in a mode most lofty".

036 83/18-21: “Nay, verily, the Record of the Righteous is (preserved) in ‘illiyin. And what will explain to thee what ‘illiyin" is? (There is a Register (fully) inscribed, to which bear witness those nearest (to Allah).” The omniscient god Allah needs witnesses – and he is not more advanced and omniscient than that everything has to be written down in a good, old-fashioned book.

037 83/19: "- - - 'illiyin - - -". See 83/18e, 83/18f, and 83/18g above.

038 83/20: " - - - a Register - - -". See f. ex. 83/18b above.

039 83/21: "- - - witness - - -". Why does a claimed omniscient god need witnesses?

040 83/22a: "Truly - - -". See 2/2b above.

041 83/22b: "- - - the Righteous - - -" Muslims.

042 83/22c: "- - - Righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

043 83/22d: "- - - in Bliss". Here: In Paradise. See 11/9f above.

044 83/23: "On Thrones (of Dignity) - - -". In The Quran's and Islam's Paradise - see 10/9f above.

045 83/25: "- - - Wine - - -". Wine used to be very popular in the old Arabia. Actually alcohol and sex were "the two delightful things". And just these "two delightful things" Muhammad reintroduces in the Muslims' Paradise: Lots of women plus lots of wine. Is that a co-incidence? (at least he reintroduces it for men - women may have to be starved at least for one of the "delightful things", but women do not count much in the Quran.)

046 83/25-26: (A83/8): “Their (the Muslims in Paradise*) thirst will be slacked with Pure Wine sealed; the seal thereof will be musk - - -.” But once again: An Arab word - “kithamuhu” - with more than one meaning. Which clearly means that there may be more meanings to the original Arab text. F.x.: “They will be given a drink whereon the seal (of Allah) will have been set.” Then: Is Allah’s or Muhammad’s real and exact meaning clear to you? And these variants of course also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has/have more than one meaning. Allah (?) really uses a clear language.

047 83/27a: "- - - Tasnim - - -". One more made up word nobody really understands. A clear and easily understood language in the Quran?

048 83/27b: (YA6026): "Tasnim literally indicates height, fullness, opulence. Here it is the name of a heavenly Fountain - - -". This is one explanation of the word. Also see 83/27a just above and 83/27c just below.

049 83/27c: (A83/9): "Whereas most of the classical commentators regard the infinitive noun "tasnim" as the proper name of one of the allegorical "fountains of paradise", or, alternatively refrain from any definition of it (because the meaning is unclear*), it seems to me that the derivation of 'tainim' from the verb 'sannama' - 'he raised (something)' or 'made it lofty' - points, rather, to the effect which the 'wine' of divine knowledge (but where does the word knowledge enter?*) will have on those who 'drink' it in paradise. Hence, the tabi'i 'Ikrimah (as quoted by Razi) equates 'tasnim' with 'tashrif', 'that which is ennobling' or 'exalting'". Just two additional comment: Easily understood language in the Quran? And: It is easy to believe what one wants to believe.

050 83/28: "- - - Nearest to Allah." Very few - really very few - of some billions through the times, can be nearest to Allah.

051 83/29a: "Those in sin - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

052 83/29b: "- - - sin - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exist. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

053 83/29c: "- - - those who believed - - -". Muslims. Only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

054 83/32: "Behold, these (the Muslims*) are the people truly astray". If the Quran is not from a god or/and contains wrong information, they were right.

055 83/34a: "But on this Day the Believers (Muslims*) will laugh at the Unbelievers (going to Hell*) - - -". As said before; empathy - or for that case sympathy - does not exist in the Quran, at least not concerning non-Muslims.

056 83/34b: "- - - this Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

057 83/34c: "- - - Believers - - -". Muslims.

058 83/34d: "- - - this Day the Believers will laugh - - -". Only if Allah exists, and if the Quran in addition has told the full truth and only the truth.

059 83/34e: "- - - this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers - - -". One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god: NT makes it pretty clear that that not even the god laughs at lost souls.

060 83/34f: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims - thought one of the mildest ones.

061 83/35: "On Thrones (of Dignity) - - -". See 10/9f above.

062 83/36: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims - thought one of the mildest ones.

Surah 83: Sub-total: 62 + 20.233 = 20.295 comments.


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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".