1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 80 -- Abasa (He Frowned)
20 June 2012
Revelation: Mecca, 611 - 614 AD.
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The quotes and comments
001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.
002 80/1a: “(The Prophet (Muhammad*)) - - -”. But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet was a person who could see at least parts of the unseen, and thus a person who:
Has the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.
Makes prophesies which always or at least mostly come true.
Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.
A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for any person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not guess the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy, and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking (nearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion).
The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying - of "seeing the unseen" - that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen (extra revealing here is that the old Biblical title for a prophet, was "a seer" - one who saw the unseen (f.x. 1. Sam. 9/9)) and also that Islam even today admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran” (prophesying is a kind of miracle - seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad "except the revelation of the Quran" also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories - but all the same many a mullah and imam and scholar use these stories, which Islam admits are made up ones, as "proofs" for that Muhammad had supernatural powers and was a prophet. Honesty is not the strong side of Muslim religious leaders.) Also see 30/40a and 30/46a, and we also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah according to Hadiths (f.x. Al-Bukhari) stated that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.
Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden or what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet. Similar in 6/50a, 7/188b, 10/20c+d, 10/49a+b, and 72/26.
As mentioned: Also relevant here is that the original title of the Jewish prophets as mentioned was not "prophet" but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F.x. 1. Sam. 9/9#, 1. Sam. 9/11, 1. Sam. 9/18, 1. Sam. 9/19, 2. Kings. 17/13, 1. Chr. 9/22, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1. Chr. 29/29, 2. Chr. 9/29, 2. Chr. 16/7, 2. Chr.16/10, 2. Chr. 19/2, 2. Chr. 29/25, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side). Muhammad thus so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen". One more proof for that he was not in the same line - not to say league - as Jesus, if the Bible and/or the Quran tell the truth about Jesus on this point.
Many liked - and like - the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for this title - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.
***This is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why.
It also is remarkable that Muhammad relatively seldom used the title "prophet" about himself in the Quran. He mostly used the title "Messenger", even though messenger in reality means an errand-boy (Muslims try to make this title something big and imposing, but this is the meaning of it). "Prophet" on the other hand is a heavy and impressive title telling a lot about the person. May the reason for why he did not use it so often, be that he knew he did not have what it took to merit that title, and was a little careful using it, so as not to provoke questions or comments? (And is this also the reason why Muslims try to pretend that "messenger" is something more impressive and heavy than "prophet"?)
If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.
Also see 30/40h and 30/47b above.
003 80/1b: “(The Prophet (Muhammad*)) - - -”. A historical anomaly.
004 80/1c: (A80/1): Muhammad got a minor reprimand for a minor mistake, and this comment claims that "- - - it illustrates the objective nature of the Quranic revelation: for, obviously, in conveying Allah’s reproach of him (Muhammad*) to the world at large, the Prophet "does not speak out of his own desire". This is obvious only to persons who know little about psychology, about human nature, and about how to lead or manipulate people.
005 80/4: "- - - receive admonition - - -". From tales full of errors and not backed by any god? - no god is behind a quality like the Quran.
006 80/6: "- - - thou (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
007 80/7: "- - - thee (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
008 80/8: "- - - thee (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
009 80/10: "- - - thou (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
010 80/11a: "For it (the Quran*) is indeed a Message of instruction". Perhaps - but with so many mistakes is it a correct instruction? Unlikely.
011 80/11b: "- - - indeed - - -". See f.x. 2/2b and 61/4a above.
012 80/12: "- - - let whoso will, keep it (the teachings of Muhammad*) in remembrance.". Around 611-614 AD this was Muhammad's message. Some 10 years later he started to tell his fellow Arabians - and Jews and others: Become Muslims and be rich from stolen goods and slaves or die. (Much of Arabia - and other places were won for Islam by the sword. This verse is abrogated – made invalid - and contradicted by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 28 abrogations).
013 80/13: "- - in Books (the copies of the Quran*) held (greatly) in honor - - -". The Quran is held greatly in honor by parts of humanity - but is there a real reason for that for a book full of mistakes, etc., and not from a god? Or is it plain superstition?
014 80/14a: "(A book*) Exalted in (dignity) - - -". Similar to 80/13 just above.
015 80/14b: " (The Quran is*) - - - holy - - -". No book behind which there is no god, is holy in reality.
016 80/16: "- - - Just". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code, partly unethical ethical code, partly unjust judicial code, etc.
017 80/17a: "Woe to man! What made him reject Allah?" Perhaps simply the fact that most of them understood something was and is seriously wrong with the Quran.
018 80/17b: (A80/5): “Woe to man! What hath made him reject Allah?” But this is not a good translation, as the verb used here – “qutila” – means “to kill”. Even if one reads that verb figuratively, the translation is not good. Another is: “(But all too often) man destroys himself: how stubbornly does he deny the truth!” Yet another (translated from Swedish): “(But) by his (man’s*) thorough denial of the truth, man call down (Allah’s) doom and excludes himself from His goodness.” And even yet another (also translated from Swedish): “Would that man will be doomed (by Allah) for his denial!” A clear language in the Quran? Clearly no.
019 80/17-19: “Woe to man! What hath made him reject Allah? (Used like this it is clear that the word “man” here means the human race/Adam*.) From what stuff hath He (Allah*) created him? From a sperm-drop He hath created him - - -.” But:
This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing.
Even if here had been meant a man and not Adam, this is wrong. A person is not made from a sperm drop, but from one sperm cell + one egg cell. But Muhammad did not know about the egg cell and exactly what happened. He believed the sperm was seed which could start to grow when planted in a woman. Any god had known better.
(Also see verse 6/2b above.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 27 other verses. And actually here are minimum 27 contradictions.)
020 80/19a: “From a sperm-drop He (Allah*) hath created him (man*) - - -”. Wrong. Neither man (see 6/2a) nor a man (see 75/37) was created just from sperm.
021 80/19b: “From a sperm-drop He (Allah*) hath created him (man*) - - -”. In reality man was not created at all according to science - he developed from earlier primates.
022 80/20a: "Then doth He (Allah*) make his (man's*) path smooth for him". This only is possible if Allah exists and have power - white or black ("White" in connections like this normally means "divine" and "black" means from "dark forces".
023 80/20b: (A80/7 - translated from Swedish (a little "corrected" in the English 2008 edition): "Literally: 'He (Allah*) makes easy the way for him (the Muslim*)'. This is an allusion to that Allah has given man the intellectual gifts enabling him to discern between good and evil - - -". For one thing here the claim that this is from Allah - as normal in the Quran - just is a claim. It f. x. easily may be a natural adjustment to man's nature to enable him/her to live in groups - see 11/7a above. But the main thing here is that Islam is a very good sample for that this aspect of human nature - to be able to see the difference between good and bad, right and wrong - is not following fixed rules, but are formed or moderated by the society one live in. A number of the rules for behavior in the Quran and hence in Islam so obviously conflicts with the gold standard for inter human morality: "Do against others like you want others do against you". All the same most Muslims honestly believe they are living in a very moral religion when they live according to even the most grotesque ones of the rules in the Quran's and Islam's moral code or sharia laws.
024 80/21: "Then He (Allah*) causeth him (man*) to die." Comment similar to 80/20a+b above.
025 80/21-32: Different natural phenomena Muhammad like so often claims for glorification and indication of his god - as always without the slightest proof. He just claims like any pagan priest claims for his pagan god(s).
026 80/22a: "- - - when it is His will - - -". See 14/19d --------------------------- above. This one may be a little stronger than the others, but as clearly just a not proved claim.
027 80/22b: "- - - He (later*) will raise him (the man*) up again". This claim - resurrection made by Allah - is a claim which appears several places in the Quran, and we find it a very interesting one, because in all the Quran there is not one single case of resurrection - only the big words. In contrast you find resurrections backed by Yahweh several places in the Bible, both in the old and the New testament. If we presume that the books are correct on this point, Allah/Muhammad - as always - have proved nothing and may be bluffing, whereas Yahweh has proved his existence and power. If, as said, the books tell the truth here.
028 80/22c: "- - - He (later*) will raise him (the man*) up again". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells this is done by Yahweh, not by Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
029 80/23: "By no means hat he (an average man - not much women in the Quran, except as servant or pleasure or mother of his children to a man*) fulfilled what Allah hat commanded him". One of the unclear verses in the Quran, where scholars are guessing at what it means.
030 80/24-32: Allah claims he is producing the food needed by humans and animals. See 11/7a, 21/56c, and 41/15f above.
031 80/33 "- - - the Deafening Noise". The noise of the Day of Doom.
032 80/34: "That Day - - -". The Day of Doom.
033 80/37: "- - - that Day - - -". The Day of Doom.
034 80/38-39: "Some faces that Day (of Doom*) will be beaming, Laughing, rejoicing". = The Muslims.
035 80/40-41: "And other faces that Day (of Doom*) will be dust-stained, Blackness will cover them - - -". = Non-Muslims.
036 80/42a: "Such will be the Rejecters of Allah - - -". Yes, but only if there is a god behind the Quran, and only if it in addition is completely true. (And what of Muslims if this is not the case?) And not least: Only if there also is not another real god (or other real gods) some rejecters of Allah believe in and who invites them to his paradise - f.x. Yahweh.
037 80/42b: "- - - the Rejecters of Allah - - -". One of Muhammad's many to Muslims negative names for non-Muslims.
038 80/42c: "- - - the doers of Iniquity". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
039 80/42c: "- - - doers of Iniquity". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
Surah 80: Sub-total 39 + 20.128 = 20.167 comments.
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