1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 8 -- Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War)

Revelation: Medina, 624 AD (some verses later.)

(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)


 

The quotes and comments

 

001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 8/1a: “They (the warriors*) ask thee (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

003 8/1b: “They (the warriors*) ask thee (Muhammad*) concerning (things taken as) spoils of war (riches and slaves and sometimes land*).

One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

004 8/1c: “They (the warriors*) ask thee (Muhammad*) concerning (things taken as) spoils of war (riches and slaves and sometimes land*). Say: (Such) spoils are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*)”. This is one of the rules Muhammad or the omniscient Allah had to change later (and not much later) - in the end Muhammad only got 20%, except if the victims gave in without a fight (then Muhammad still got 100%). (Islam has another explanation - all belongs to Allah, but 80% may be given to the warriors and to their leaders. But when a "may be" becomes a rule, it is not a "may be" any more). You meet Muslims saying Allah/the Quran never changed anything, but here is one point which was changed shortly afterward. Often Muslims explains changes with that the rules really were not changed, only made stricter or clarified (why should that be necessary for an omniscient god?) Here is an absolute rule which later had to be changed - the warriors demanded their share of the spoils. Besides: How primitive or greedy has a person to be in order to see a good and benevolent god in a god who permits stealing/robbing, rape, enslaving, suppression, murder, etc. in his name?Incompatible with NT.

005 8/1d: “(The spoils of war*) “are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” All that was stolen and looted and robbed in raids and war included, slaves and prisoners for extorting money (this early – 624 AD – it mainly was raids to steal/rob/extort) belonged to Allah – represented by his envoy on earth: Muhammad. But his officers and warriors were too greedy to accept this – they wanted a share of the riches, too. So a bit later in the surah – a few “revelations” later (?) there came a contra order – and abrogation:

***8/41: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah - - -.” Muhammad had to give the warriors their share – except that he saved everything for himself in the cases where the victims gave in without fighting – then the warriors had done nothing and could not demand a share. Muhammad needed riches. Though it is likely it is true he was not much interested in much luxury, he needed riches for bribes/"gifts" and for waging war to get more power and more riches, included slaves – war cost money even if he paid his warriors with religion and religious promises, then all the same food and equipment cost money – and he needed riches for “gift” to attract more warriors/followers/believers and to keep some of the lukewarm-warm ones - - - and some for social use (help to the poor). Muslims tries to explain away this contradiction and abrogation by saying that it all belongs to Allah/the leader, but 80% is given to the warriors/robbers. But the moment it becomes a right for the robbers in raids and warriors in war, the rank and file’s share no longer belongs to the leader.

006 8/1e: “(The spoils of war*) “are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” Incompatible with the Bible. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad was not in the same line of prophets - Just try to think about Jesus demanding his share of things stolen in war, not to mention his share of slaves taken!! - the very thoughts are utterly impossible for anyone knowing NT. In OT it was permitted to take booty, but for the warriors. Only once (4. Mos. 31/28-29) did Yahweh ask for a share of the booty: 1 in 500 from half and 1 in 50 from the other half for the priests and Levites (the priest tribe). In NT there is no question about booty at all. Allah demands 1 in 5 if there was fighting and everything if the victim gave in without fighting. The same god? Just guess!! (When it comes to treatment of victims and also of their possessions, it is easy to think about the Mafia or the Triads, and about primitives and greed, when we read about Muslims' raids and wars).

007 8/1f: "- - - Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -." A variation of Muhammad's main mantra to glue himself to the god and to his platform of power.

***008 8/1g: “- - - the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -“. But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet was a person who could see at least parts of the unseen, and thus a person who:

Has the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.

Makes prophesies which always or at least mostly come true.

Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for any person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not guess the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy, and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking (nearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying - of "seeing the unseen" - that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen (extra revealing here is that the old Biblical title for a prophet, was "a seer" - one who saw the unseen (f.x. 1. Sam. 9/9)) and also that Islam even today admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran” (prophesying is a kind of miracle - seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad "except the revelation of the Quran" also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories - but all the same many a mullah and imam and scholar use these stories, which Islam admits are made up ones, as "proofs" for that Muhammad had supernatural powers and was a prophet. Honesty is not the strong side of Muslim religious leaders.) Also see 30/40a and 30/46a, and we also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah according to Hadiths (f.x. Al-Bukhari) stated that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden or what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet. Similar in 6/50a, 7/188b, 10/20c+d, 10/49a, and 72/26.

As mentioned: Also relevant here is that the original title of the Jewish prophets as mentioned was not "prophet" but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F.x. 1. Sam. 9/9#, 1. Sam. 9/11, 1. Sam. 9/18, 1. Sam. 9/19, 2. Kings. 17/13, 1. Chr. 9/22, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1. Chr. 29/29, 2. Chr. 9/29, 2. Chr. 16/7, 2. Chr.16/10, 2. Chr. 19/2, 2. Chr. 29/25, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side). Muhammad thus so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen". One more proof for that he was not in the same line - not to say league - as Jesus, if the Bible and/or the Quran tell the truth about Jesus on this point.

Many liked - and like - the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for this title - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.

***This is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why.

It also is remarkable that Muhammad relatively seldom used the title "prophet" about himself in the Quran. He mostly used the title "Messenger", even though messenger in reality means an errand-boy (Muslims try to make this title something big and imposing, but this is the meaning of it). "Prophet" on the other hand is a heavy and impressive title telling a lot about the person. May the reason for why he did not use it so often, be that he knew he did not have what it took to merit that title, and was a little careful using it, so as not to provoke questions or comments? (And is this also the reason why Muslims try to pretend that "messenger" is something more impressive and heavy than "prophet"?)

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h below.

009 8/1h: "- - - obey Allah and His Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". A nice order for Muhammad, because here on Earth that in reality meant "obey Muhammad - completely (as he represent the god)".

010 8/1i: "- - - obey Allah and His Prophet (Muhammad*) - - - if ye do believe". You were not a good Muslim and believer unless you obey Allah and Muhammad - which here on Earth just meant Muhammad.

011 8/1j: "- - - Allah and His Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". The main (here actually strengthened) version of Muhammad's mantra - see 8/1g above".

012 8/1k: "- - - His (Allah's*) Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". No omniscient god has a prophet who tells lots of things which are wrong, in his name.

013 8/1l: "- - - Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". As for prophet see 8/1g above.

014 8/2a: "- - - Believers - - -". = Muslims - only Muslims are believers according to the Quran.

015 8/2b: “- - - His (Allah's*) Signs - - -“. There are no signs proving Allah or anything else in or outside the Quran. See 2/39b above.

016 8/2c: "- - - put (all) their trust in their Lord (Allah*) - - -". A bit risky, as the Quran with all its errors, contradictions, etc. is not from a god, and thus Allah most likely do not exist - or he may be the pagan al-Lah Muhammad dressed up and changed name of to Allah.

017 8/3a: "- - - establish regular prayers - - -". But what is the idea with prayers in Islam if Allah predestines everything long before and according to his unchangeable Plan? - a plan "nobody and nothing can change". If nothing can change the predestination, prayers have no effect in Islam and are just a waste of time and effort.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

018 8/3b: "- - - and spend (freely) out of the gifts We (Allah*) have given - - -". There were three main causes to give to: The needy, to defend and promote Islam, and the expenses of war. That to give much was a good deed, is frequently mentioned in the Quran (though not more than you could afford).

019 8/3c: "- - - the gifts We (Allah*) have given them for sustenance". All money, etc. you made - or robbed/stole - in reality was/is not from your labor or raiding - it is a gift from Allah, according to the book.

020 8/4a: (A8/5): “Such in truth are the Believers: they have grades of dignity with their Lord (Allah*), and forgiveness, and generous sustenance - - -.” Yes, generous sustenance, etc. – but where? Many or most scholars say “in Paradise” – this has the extra benefits that the promises of luxury can be bigger, and one does not have to explain why pious people on Earth often are not very well off. But others – like Razi – claims it is in this world, with the good feelings one have when one believes strongly, as the main benefit. The text itself is silent about the mystery. And these variants also - as always - are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has more than one meaning.

021 8/4b: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

022 8/4c: "- - - forgiveness - - -". But Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god (his moral code and laws may f.x. indicate that he is something dressed up from the dark side).

023 8/5a: “Just as thy Lord (Allah*) ordered thee (Muhammad*) out of your house in truth - - -“. That is one of the main questions – was Muhammad ordered? – and in case by whom? (The surahs from Medina makes one think more about the Devil than about a good god.)

024 8/5b: “Just as thy Lord (Allah*) ordered thee out of your house in truth (to make war against the Quraysh – battle of Badr 624 AD*) - - -.” The Muslims went out to raid a military weak caravan - - - and met a small army instead, “according to Allah’s will”. Allah likes warriors – and he needs war to promote his power and religion, even if he is omnipotent. Remembering his claimed omnipotence, this is a strange "fact".

025 8/5c: “Just as thy Lord (Allah*) ordered thee out of your house in truth (to make war against the Quraysh – battle of Badr 624 AD*) - - -.” A historical anomaly. See 4/13 above.

026 8/5d: “Just as thy Lord (Allah*) ordered thee out of your house in truth (to make war against the Quraysh – battle of Badr 624 AD*) - - -.” If man had free will, Allah could not know for sure millions of years earlier that Mecca would march against Badr just then. One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

***027 8/5e: "- - - in truth - - -". There are so much wrong in the Quran that one cannot accept anything there as true unless there is extra documentation. Confirmation of this point of view: Even though the Quran is pretended to come from a god and should be 100% correct and reliable, no serious scientist - not one single in all the wide world - uses the book as a reliable source for information of any kind on subjects from before 610 AD - nearly everything is wrong or unreliable.

028 8/5f: "- - - even though a party among the Believers disliked it (to go to war*)". Not all Muslims liked - or like - to wage war. A fact that should be remembered - most Muslims (at least 70% as an average for the entire world according to science) are just like any other human being. The rest is everything from slightly understanding and sympathetic to fighting "the others", to terrorists and every stage in between, and perhaps only 0.5% (this number is from a Muslim source on Internet, but sounds reasonable) are fanatics. But 0.5% of 1.2 billion make 6 million - or say 4 million if you subtract the children - and the real problem is that it is difficult to impossible to know who is who. All the same: Given the situation there may be a little reason for being somewhat careful and to use your brain in contact especially with unknown Muslims. But there is no reason to judge each and every one you meet as bad or dangerous - mostly they are not.

029 8/5+6: “- - - even though a party of the Believers disliked it (to do battle against the Quraysh at Badr 624 AD*). Disputing with thee (Muhammad*) concerning the truth after it was made manifest - - -“. See 8/5d just above. In this case (Badr) some Muslims refused to take part in the battle against the seemingly much stronger small army and fled before it started “even after it had been made clear that it was Allah’s will that they should do battle against the Quraysh” according to “The Message of the Quran”. War seems to be a pleasure for Allah, and necessary to augment his power and promote his religion, even though he is said to be omnipotent. Or maybe it only is to test his followers and find out their quality – even though he is omniscient and predestining and knows everything before. The unsolvable contradiction made by the claims: Allah decides everything vs. man has free will, are also put to a test? But at least it is clear that Allah wants war.

030 8/6a: “Disputing - - - the truth after it was made manifest (had appeared in a verse or surah *)”. That something appears in a verse does not prove that it is true – far from it, as there are too many mistakes about a lot of things. Islam will have to produce proofs, not only claims about what is true and what not. Also see 8/5f above.

031 8/6b: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b above, and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

032 8/6c: "- - - manifest - - -". See 2/2b above.

033 8/6d: "- - - as if they (Muslims going to war*) were driven to death - - -". Many of them were.

034 8/6e: (A8/6): “- - - (some of your followers are*) disputing with thee (Muhammad*) after it was manifest (that there would be a battle at Badr*), as if they were driven to death - - -.” But it is unclear what the Arab word “kama” (“just as” or “even as”) points to, and then there is at least one more possible meaning (Mujahid, Tabari): “Just as some of the believers were adverse to going forth from Medina to fight the Quraysh (Mecca*), so, too, they would argue with thee as to whether it was really willed by Allah.” Unclear language = more than one possible meaning. A clear and impossible to misunderstand text in the Quran? And these variants naturally also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has more than one meaning.

035 8/7a: “Allah promised you one of the two (enemy) parties - - -". The Muslim spies had reported a rich caravan to plunder. There is no documentation even in the Quran that Allah had promised it to them. And the army from Mecca they did not even know about, until they met it at Badr - absolutely not promised them.

036 8/7b: “Allah promised you one of the two (enemy) parties (either the caravan or the small army at Badr) - - -“. Allah promised the Muslims a nice little fight – very nice of him. “The Religion of Peace”???

037 8/7c: "- - - one of the two (enemies) - - -". Muhammad and his some 300 men set out from Medina to attack and plunder a big and rich caravan - some 1000 camels with much to steal. That was the first of the two enemies. Instead they met a small army which had come to the rescue of the caravan. That was the second enemy.

038 8/7d: “- - - the Truth according to His (Allah’s) words (the Quran*) - - -“. With that many mistakes, etc. in the Quran, it at best is partly true. Well, they won the battle - with some losses. But the caravan got away.

039 8/8a: "- - - Truth - - -". There is so much wrong in the Quran, that at best it represents partly the truth. See also 2/2b above, and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

040 8/8b: "- - - Falsehood - - -". Normally in the Quran, this is one of the sympathetic names Muhammad used for other religions than Islam, and for arguments against Islam.

041 8/8c: "- - - Falsehood - - -". May be it here is not meant as a name. In that case see 2/2b above.

042 8/8d: "- - - those in guilt". Those not believing in Islam and not obeying Muhammad’s orders. Or may be non-Muslims.

043 8/9a: "- - - ye (Muhammad’s Muslims*) implored - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

044 8/9b: "- - - ye (Muhammad’s Muslims*) implored - - -". Something Allah could not know for sure eons earlier, if there is not total predestination. See 8/5 above.

045 8/9c: (YA1184): “I (Allah*) will assist you with a thousand of angels (f.x. in battle)” But Islam itself questions if the numbers are exact or figurative. Another question: If Allah is omnipotent and just can say “be, and it is” to quote the Quran, why then does he have to send angels? He just can decide the outcome of any battle. And actually: Why did he need any battle at all? - he just could decide how he wanted the world. (The propaganda tells it is to test his followers - but why does an omniscient and predestining god need to test anyone at all?)

046 8/9d: "- - - He (Allah*) answered you - - -". In all history and prehistory there is not one single proved case of an answer - or anything else - from Allah. Guess if Muslims had kicked you in the head with it if there had been even one single proved case!!

047 8/10a: "Allah made it but a message of hope - - -". The only claimed messages from Allah, are what one finds in the Quran. And as the Quran is not from any god with all those mistakes, also the messages are not from Allah - even if he should happen to exist and be a god. And even if Muhammad used to claim he got messages, he never proved they were from a god (he never proved anything at all of any essence).

048 8/10b: "- - - there is no help except from Allah". But is there from him? - he has never clearly proved it one single time in 1400 years.

049 8/10c: "- - - there is no help except from Allah". Contradicted by the Bible in clear words - it claims the main helper is Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

050 8/10d: "- - - Allah is Exalted in Power - - -". See 8/10b above.

051 8/10e: "- - - Allah is - - - Wise." Not if the Quran is the average of his wisdom".

052 8/11a: "- - - He (Allah*) caused rain to descend - - -". Allah or nature?

053 8/11b: "- - - rain - - -". The Muslims had set out with little water, as they expected to plunder a caravan with plenty of food and water. Instead they met an army - an army which on top of all blocked the way to local wells. Things take time, also when preparing for battle, and the shortage of water is said to become a problem for the Muslims. But then there came a shower of rain which solved the problem - this even though it seldom rains in the desert. The rain also made the soft ground a bit harder - a better battleground.

054 8/12a: “I (Allah*) will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers - - -". If Allah is omnipotent, why did he then not install enough terror to make them flee without a battle? Is Allah a small boy sitting at his PC playing "exiting" battles on his screen?

055 8/12b: “I (Allah*) will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them (making them unable to use a bow*) - - -.” “The god of Peace heading the Religion of Peace”? To call this religion “the Religion of Peace” is an insult to the intelligence of the world – and the reason why the world does not laugh at the claim, is lack of knowledge about the Quran.

But is this really “The god of Peace" heading "the Religion of Peace”? To call this religion like it emerges from the Quran, for “the Religion of Peace” really is an insult to the word and to the world – and the reason why the world does not laugh at the claim, really is lack of knowledge. (That is to say: If they knew what the Quran demands against non-Muslims, few would laugh.)

056 8/12c: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". Any non-Muslim - one of Muhammad’s many negative names for them.

057 8/12d: "- - - smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them." This is told by Muslims (comment A8/15 translated from Swedish) to be an Arab expression meaning : "Kill absolutely every one of them". (Only to smite off their fingertips, would make them unable as good archers afterwards). A good and benevolent religion full of mercy.

058 8/13a: "This (kill them*) because they contended against Allah and His Messenger - - -". How much Allah and how much Muhammad?

059 8/13b: "This (kill them*) because they contended against Allah and His Messenger - - -". When you know practically all Muhammad's armed conflicts were initiated by Muhammad, there is not a little irony in this.

060 8/13c: (A16): “This because they (opponents of Muhammad*) contended against Allah and his Messenger - - -.” A historical anomaly. See 4/13d

061 8/13d: (A16): “This because they contended against Allah and his Messenger - - -.” See 8/5d above.

062 8/13e: (A16): “This because they contended against Allah and his Messenger - - -.” But the Arab word “shaqqahu” in reality means “he separated (or cut) himself off from him”. Is the correct meaning: “This, because they have cut themselves off from Allah and his Apostle - - -“? The meanings wary and the texts in the Quran is as unclear here as so many other places.

063 8/13f: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's main mantra to glue himself to his god and to his platform of power - the god.

064 8/13g: "- - - Messenger - - -". See 63/5a below.

065 8/13h: "- - -Allah is strict in punishment". See 3/77b above.

066 8/14a: "- - - for those who resist Allah, is the penalty of the Fire". As practically all the may be 82 armed "episodes" - one every 6 weeks in Medina for "the Religion of Peace"!! - ( http://www.1000mistakes.com/jihad-holywar/index.php names more than 60 of them and what was the purpose of each of them) under Muhammad, were aggression from Muhammad and his Muslims - mostly for loot, slaves and extortion - this is an interesting statement: Defend yourself against Muhammad's raiders who wants to steal everything you have got, rape and enslave your women and children, kill or enslave yourself - - - and go to Hell for "resisting Allah" as everything and every attack Muhammad made were "holy battles" and "holy war" - jihad. Included every single attack and raid for wealth which made up 80-90% of his raids or more!

067 8/14b: "- - - for those who resist Allah - - -". And as Muhammad was Allah's only representative on Earth, this in reality meant "for those who resist Muhammad", and the threat of Hell was and is a mighty whip.

068 8/14c: "- - - the penalty of the Fire". See 3/77b above.

069 8/14d: "- - - the Fire". Hell.

070 8/14e: "- - - Allah is strict in punishment". See 3/77b above.

071 8/15a: “When ye who believe meet the Unbelievers in hostile arrays, never turn your backs to them”. Fleeing warriors were of no value to Muhammad and other leaders.

072 8/15b: "Ye who believe!" = Muslims.

073 8/15c: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". Any non-Muslim - one of Muhammad's many negative names for them.

074 8/15d: "- - - in hostile array - - -". In battle. The Religion of Peace!

075 8/16a: “If any (Muslim warrior*) do turn his back to the (the enemy*) on such a day (during battle) - - - he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell - - - “. Fight for Allah and Muhammad or end in Hell. One verse is the carrot, this one the whip. War is a central part of the life and the religion - - - "the Religion of Peace"!!! (This claim is a joke for anyone who really has read the Quran).

075a 8/16aa: “If any (Muslim warrior*) do turn his back to the (the enemy*) on such a day (during battle) - - - he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell - - - “. Incompatible with NT. In reality also with OT as in OT the fighting was for securing a national territory, not to fight "holy" wars. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets - if Muhammad had been a real prophet? Answers not necessary.

076 8/16b: “If any (Muslim warrior*) do turn his back to the (the enemy*) on such a day (during battle) - - - he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell - - - “. This also is mirrored in the sharia laws.

077 8/16c: “If any (Muslim warrior*) do turn his back to the (the enemy*) on such a day (during battle) - - - he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell - - - “. Compare this to NT. Jesus and Muhammad are miles apart - many miles.

078 8/16d: "(Flee from battle*), and his abode is Hell - an evil refuge (indeed)". See 3/77 b above.

079 8/16e: "- - - (indeed) - - -". See 2/2b above.

080 8/17a: "It is not ye (Muslims*) who slew them; it was Allah - - -". = By killing for Muhammad, you are doing the work of the god.

081 8/17b: (The fights are acts of Allah) "in order that He might test the Believers - - -". But why - why - should Allah need to test his Muslims if he is omniscient and knows everything on beforehand? - not to mention if he on top is omnipotent and decides everything before it happens? There is no logic in this. But if the real story was that Muhammad needed an "explanation" for why a mighty god wanted them to fight - in reality for Muhammad - then this sentence suddenly is easy to understand; it is unbelievable what you can make people believe if they are naive or uneducated or both, not to mention if they want to belief from f.x. religious reasons or to have an excuses to steal and enslave and rape women and to become rich.

081a 8/17ba: (The fights are acts of Allah) "in order that He might test the Believers - - -". Incompatible with especially NT. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad - if he had been a real prophet - in the same line of prophets? We do not bother to give the answers.

082 8/17c: "- - - Allah is He Who heareth and knoweth (all things)." A proud, but never documented claim - but also a reminder you frequently meet in the Quran: Allah sees everything, so be good and be obedient to Allah's representative Muhammad (and his successors) - if not punishment will reach you in this or the next life. A good "fact"(?) at least for Muhammad - - - and it was Muhammad who told this to his followers. Also see 2/233h above.

083 8/18a: "- - - Allah is He Who makes feeble the plans and stratagem of the Unbelievers". True or not true - it is good for the moral of warriors to believe things like this.

084 8/18b: "- - - Unbelievers". One of Muhammad's many distaste inducing names for non-Muslims.

085 8/19a: (A22 – in 2008 edition A21): “(O Unbelievers!) if ye prayed for victory and judgment, now hath the judgment come to you: if ye desist (from wrong), it will be best for you: if you return (to the attack) so shall We (Allah*).” This seems to be a clear-cut warning to the enemy (the Quraysh/Mecca at Badr). But remember that what is written in ( ) is put there by the translator to explain or to make things more clear – and if the translator has guessed wrong, the explanations are wrong. F.x. Razi thinks the meaning is this: “If you have been praying for victory (O believers) – victory has now indeed come onto you. And if you abstain (from sinning), it will be for your own good; but if you revert to it, We (Allah*) shall revoke (Our promise of aid).” Unclear language opens for many ways of understanding verses. And these variants of course also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has/have more than one meaning.

086 8/19b: "- - - Unbelievers". One of Muhammad's many distaste inducing names for non-Muslims.

087 8/19c: "- - - (- - - wrong) - - -". Beware that when such words are used in the Quran, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

088 8/19d: “Not the least good will your (the enemy’s) forces be to you even if they were multiplied: for verily Allah is with those who believe”. Perhaps discouraging the enemy, but surely encouraging his own warriors. “Gott mit uns.” Just this one is as old as the oldest religion - and still valid for everyone who believes it, and the uneducated, naïve early followers did believe - - - as do many Muslims even today.

089 8/19e: "- - - for verily Allah is with those who believe - - -". If he exists and if he is behind the war religion Islam.

090 8/19f: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2a above.

091 8/19g: "- - - Allah is with those who believe". Some difference from NT: "Yahweh is with those who do good and right".

092 8/20a: "Ye who believe!" = Muslims.

093 8/20b: "Ye (contemporary Muslims to Muhammad*) who believe!" A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

094 8/20c: "Obey Allah and His Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". Perhaps the for Muhammad best version of his main slogan gluing him to his god and his platform of power.

095 8/20d: “- - - His Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -“. But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet was a person who could see at least parts of the unseen, and thus a person who:

Has the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.

Makes prophesies which always or at least mostly come true.

Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for any person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not guess the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy, and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking (nearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying - of "seeing the unseen" - that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen (extra revealing here is that the old Biblical title for a prophet, was "a seer" - one who saw the unseen (f.x. 1. Sam. 9/9)) and also that Islam even today admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran” (prophesying is a kind of miracle - seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad "except the revelation of the Quran" also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories - but all the same many a mullah and imam and scholar use these stories, which Islam admits are made up ones, as "proofs" for that Muhammad had supernatural powers and was a prophet. Honesty is not the strong side of Muslim religious leaders.) Also see 30/40a and 30/46a, and we also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah according to Hadiths (f.x. Al-Bukhari) stated that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden or what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet. Similar in 6/50a, 7/188b, 10/20c+d, 10/49a, and 72/26.

As mentioned: Also relevant here is that the original title of the Jewish prophets as mentioned was not "prophet" but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F.x. 1. Sam. 9/9#, 1. Sam. 9/11, 1. Sam. 9/18, 1. Sam. 9/19, 2. Kings. 17/13, 1. Chr. 9/22, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1. Chr. 29/29, 2. Chr. 9/29, 2. Chr. 16/7, 2. Chr.16/10, 2. Chr. 19/2, 2. Chr. 29/25, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side). Muhammad thus so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen". One more proof for that he was not in the same line - not to say league - as Jesus, if the Bible and/or the Quran tell the truth about Jesus on this point.

Many liked - and like - the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for this title - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.

***This is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why.

It also is remarkable that Muhammad relatively seldom used the title "prophet" about himself in the Quran. He mostly used the title "Messenger", even though messenger in reality means an errand-boy (Muslims try to make this title something big and imposing, but this is the meaning of it). "Prophet" on the other hand is a heavy and impressive title telling a lot about the person. May the reason for why he did not use it so often, be that he knew he did not have what it took to merit that title, and was a little careful using it, so as not to provoke questions or comments? (And is this also the reason why Muslims try to pretend that "messenger" is something more impressive and heavy than "prophet"?)

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h below.

096 8/21: "Nor be like those who say (to Muhammad*), 'We hear' - - -". See 8/5d above.

097 8/22a: "- - - the worst beasts - - -". A not flattering name for the non-Muslims who did not believe in the preaching of Muhammad.

098 8/22b: "- - - deaf and dumb - - -". Non-Muslims must be deaf and dumb not to hear that Muhammad preaches the truth. But it is one of the big facts in life that nobody is as deaf - and blind - as the one who is sure he has the answer - right or wrong and often wrong - and does not want to hear or see anything which can disturb his belief, or alternatively he is so sure that his belief is right that he does not bother to listen to conflicting information.

099 8/22c: "- - - those who understand not". One of Muhammad’s many negative names for non-Muslims.

100 8/22d: "- - - those (non-Muslims*) who understand not". It is good psychology - and practiced within more or less all sects - to tell that you have chosen this sect or religion because you are intelligent - especially the naive ones like to hear they are intelligent - and that "the others" still are "outside" because they understand not. Especially the naive ones and the ones who really want to believe it for some reason or other, may believe such words and even feel good because they are intelligent enough to understand and be inside. The irony is that the effect is the same in all sects and religion, even though most of them for obvious reasons are wrong.

101 8/22e: "- - - those (non-Muslims*) who understand not". Perhaps the real explanation was that they understood too well that something was wrong?

102 8/23a: "If Allah had found in them any good, He would indeed have made them (non-Muslims*) listen - - -". Take it easy - there is nothing wrong with "our" belief. The reason why they do not believe in "our claimed truth, is that they are so bad that Allah do not want them. Muslims use the same logic today: If anyone does not believe in Islam, it is because they do not know what they are talking about, or because they are bad, or because they are Islam-haters, or things like that - easy ways to flee from the fact that many who rejects Islam are intelligent people with much knowledge, and perhaps there is a reason why they reject it.

103 8/23b: "- - - (faith) - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

104 8/24a: “- - - ye who believe - - -". Muslims.

105 8/24b: “Oh ye who believe! Give your response to Allah and His Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

106 8/24c: “Oh ye who believe! Give your response to Allah and His Prophet (Muhammad*), when He calleth you to that which will give you life - - -.” To follow the call for war, will give you a beautiful next life – - - and Muhammad a cheap and committed warrior.

107 8/24d: "- - - Allah and His Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". The standard version for Muhammad's mantra to glue himself to his god and to his platform of power".

108 8/24e: "- - - His (Allah's*) Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". But Muhammad was no real prophet. See 8/20d above.

109 8/24f: "- - - that which will give you life - - -". = Islam - at least that is the claim.

110 8/24g: "- - - that which will give you life - - -" According to the Bible it is Yahweh who will give you life.

111 8/24h: "- - - it is He (Allah*) to whom ye shall (all) be gathered". If the Quran tells the truth - which it all too often does not; many mistakes and other kinds of errors.

112 8/24i: "- - - it is He (Allah*) to whom ye shall (all) be gathered". Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which tells it is to Yahweh one is to be gathered (at the Day of Doom). Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

113 8/25a: "- - - those of you who do wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. It f. ex. was very wrong not to go to war and kill and steal for Muhammad/Allah.

114 8/25b: "Allah is strict in punishment". See 3/77b above.

115 8/26a: "Call to mind when ye (Muhammad's followers*) were a small (band*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

116 8/26b: "Call to mind when ye (Muhammad's followers*) were a small (band*), despised through the land, and afraid that men might despoil and kidnap you - - -". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

117 8/26c: "- - - He (Allah*) provided you a safe asylum - - -". Claimed - but only a claim like normal in the Quran.

118 8/26d: "- - - strengthened you (Muslims*) with His (Allah's*) aid - - -". There is nowhere in history a clear case of aid from Allah - you bet Muslims had told about it if there had been.

119 8/27a: "O ye that believe!". = Muslims - only Muslims are believers according to the Quran.

120 8/27b: "Betray not the trust of Allah - - -". Why should Allah have to rely on trust? - he according to the Quran knows everything, and has no need to rely on trust. But see 8/27c just below.

121 8/27c: "Betray not the trust of Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". But (see 8/27b just above) Muhammad to a large degree had to rely on his followers f.x. in battle, which may be the reason for this sentence.

122 8/27d: "- - - Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's standard mantra to glue himself to Allah and to his platform of power, Allah. You meet it nearly legion times in the Quran in some variations.

123 8/27e: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

124 8/28a: "- - - a trial - - -". But why does an omniscient god who knows absolutely everything, included your innermost thoughts, and who on top of all according to many places in the Quran predestines everything and every detail on Earth and in everyone's life, need trials of his people?!? There exists no logic in it - not unless it in reality was Muhammad who needed an explanation for why Allah wanted his followers to fight for Muhammad.

Predestination - Muhammad even came to stress predestination more and more as the years went by in Medina - one can speculate if the reason was that he needed warriors.

And this is a serious point: THROUGH 1400 YEARS ISLAM HAS BEEN UNABLE TO EXPLAIN THE CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE STATEMENTS THAT MAN HAS FREE WILL, AND THE STATEMENTS THAT ALLAH DECIDES EVERYTHING. THE MORE OR LESS OFFICIAL POINT OF VIEW (THOUGH NOT AMONG THE UNEDUCATED ONES THAT HARDLY UNDERSTANDS THE PROBLEM) IS THAT THE TWO STATEMENTS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO COMBINE, “BUT IT ALL THE SAME HAS TO BE TRUE AS ALLAH SAYS SO IN THE QURAN”(!!!). ALSO THE SENDING PEOPLE TO HELL FOR A FAIR PUNISHMENT COMBINED WITH THE “FACT” THAT ALLAH DECIDES EVERYTHING BY PREDESTINATION, IS IMPOSSIBLE TO COMBINE WITH THE PRESUMPTION OF A BENEVOLENT AND/OR FAIR GOD. Some Muslims back paddle very much on the point of predestination and try to explain that it is not real predestination, without explaining what it then is - but the Quran is too clear on this.

PREDESTINATION ALSO MAKE PRAYERS INVALID IN ISLAM. IF EVERYTHING IS PREDESTINED LONG TIME AGO, AND PREDESTINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALLAH'S PLAN - A PLAN NOBODY AND NOTHING CAN CHANGE ACCORDING TO SEVERAL VERSES IN THE QURAN, AND WHICH THUS ALSO PRAYERS CANNOT CHANGE, TO PRAY FOR HELP OR ANYTHING FROM ALLAH JUST IS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT.

125 8/28b: "- - - it is with Allah with whom lays your highest reward". If the Quran tells the truth - which it all too often does not. And if Allah exists and is a benevolent god.

126 8/28c: "- - - it is with Allah with whom lays your highest reward". Contradicted to say the least of it, by the Bible, which tells this lays with Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

127 8/29a: "O ye who believe!" = Muslims - only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

128 8/29b: "- - - He (Allah*) will grant you a Criterion - - -" Only possible if he exists and is a god.

###129 8/29c: "- - - He (Allah*) will grant you a Criterion (to judge between right and wrong),- - -". In 1400 years he has not been able to do so. The Muslims have got the Quran included the basis for the sharia laws - perhaps from Allah if he exists and is no go (no god was ever involve in a book of that quality), may be from dark forces (the immorality and inhumanity in the Quran and in the sharia laws may indicate this), may be from a mental illness (TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) like modern medical science suspects, or may be from one or more cold scheming brain(s), perhaps Muhammad himself, like all the mistakes which are in accordance with wrong science in Arabia at that time used in the Quran, and also the wide use in the Quran of local Arab folklore, legends and fairy tales may indicate this. Compare the Quran and the sharia laws, though, to the basis for all true ethics, moral, and just laws: "Do against others like you want others do against you", and there is only one possible conclusion: After 1400 years Muslims still have not received a criterion telling the difference between right and wrong. Also see 8/29d just below.

130 8/29d: "- - - (- - - right and wrong)- - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

131 8/29e: "- - - forgive you - - -". Only two can forgive - the victim (or his representative) and a god. Is Allah really a god - if he exists? Muhammad is the only source for claims about him, and the real Muhammad was not very reliable (cfr. al-Taqiyya - lawful lies, Kitman - lawful half-truths, broken oaths, deceptions, etc.). Also his book, the Quran, is choke full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. and not from any god.

132 8/29f: "- - - Allah is the Lord - - -". Often claimed, never proved. Not even his very existence is proved.

133 8/29g: "- - - Allah is the Lord of grace unbounded". Similar often claimed, never proved.

134 8/30a: "Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/14d above.

135 8/30b: "Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee (Muhammad*) - - -". See 8/26b above.

136 8/30c: "- - - Unbelievers". One of Muhammad's many distaste inducing names for non-Muslims.

####137 8/30d: “They (non-Muslims*) plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah”. When Allah can make devious and cheating plans, of course his followers also can. This verse is may be the main alibi for the institution of al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and its brother Kitman (the lawful half-truth) - two lawful ways of dishonesty you find in no other of the large religions. Worse: For promoting or defending Islam, they are not only permitted, but advised to use "if necessary".

Just for the record: Al-Taqiyya and Kitman can be used at least in these cases (for broken oaths there are given no real limitations if the broken oath will give a better result. By implication this also goes for ordinary words and promises, as an oath is something stronger than a normal word or promise):

To save your or others' health or life.

To get out of a tight spot or a dangerous situation.

To make peace in a family.

When it will give a better result than honesty or honoring one’s oath.

To cheat women (should be remembered by girls with Muslim boyfriends wanting sex - or wanting a marriage to get residence permit in a rich country.)

To deceive opponents/enemies.

To betray enemies.

To secure one’s money (very clear from Hadiths).

To defend Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)

To promote Islam. (Advised if necessary to succeed.)

But al-Taqiyya is a double-edged sword: In the short run you may cheat and deceive some ones – actually also in the long run if the opposite part does not know about this side of Muslims and of Islam, or if he/she is naïve. But in the long run it means that people learn Muslims cannot be relied on in serious questions. And it also means p0roblems for Muslims telling a plain truth without being believed - there is no way for them to strengthen their words, as even oaths are unreliable.

Also remember that Muhammad in addition to "normal" dishonesty - he f.x. knows he is lying at least a few places in the Quran - used both betrayals, deceiving and broken oaths - the Islamic personification of truth and honesty?

All this is "good and lawful" in Islam.

138 8/31a: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -." Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

139 8/31b: "- - - they (non-Muslims at the time of Muhammad*) say - - -". A historical anomaly.

140 8/31c: "- - - they (non-Muslims at the time of Muhammad*) say: 'We have heard - - - (etc.*)". See 8/26b above.

141 8/31d: "- - - these (Muhammad's tales in the Quran*) are nothing but tales of the ancients". Something the skeptics had every right to say, as the tales in the Quran may be absolutely all are taken from older tales well known in Arabia at that time - folklore, tales, legends (even seemingly Biblical stories mostly were not from the Bible, but from legends - that is the real reason why they differ so much from the Bible), and even fairy tales were given some twists and repeated by Muhammad as true stories from his god. No god would need to do this - and if he did, he would not need to take stories only from in and around Arabia.

142 8/32a: "- - - they (non-Muslims at the time of Muhammad*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

143 8/32b: "- - - they (non-Muslims at the time of Muhammad*) said: 'O Allah, if indeed - - - (etc.*)". See 8/26b above.

144 8/32c: “- - - they said: ’O, Allah if this is indeed the Truth from Thee, rain down on us a shower of stones from the sky or send us a grievous Penalty”. No doubt that proofs really were wanted and needed and would have had effect - but never an answer. And honestly - if Allah is a fiction from a made up book, he could not do or prove anything. This may be the simple reason.

145 8/32d: "- - - if this (the Quran*) is indeed the Truth from Thee (Allah*) - - -". No god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran - it is not from Allah if he is a god. May be if he is a devil and was not permitted to make it better.

146 8/32e: "- - - the Truth - - -". See 2/2b above, and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

147 8/32f: "- - - grievous Penalty". See 3/77b above.

148 8/32-33: “Remember how they (non-Muslims*) said: ‘O, Allah, if this is indeed the Truth from Thee, rain down on us a shower of stones from the sky, and send us a grievous Penalty. But Allah was not going to send them a penalty whilst thou (Muslims*) wast among them; nor was He going to do it whilst they could ask for pardon.” Of course it was nice for Muslims that Allah would not risk hurting them when punishing the bad ones. But it would be no problem for a presumably omnipotent god to punish only the guilty ones. For believers wanting to believe, and not used to – or trained in – critical thinking, it may have been a satisfying fast-talk/"explanation".

That Allah only would punish the bad ones after it was too late for them to ask for pardon (= the Day of Doom) may have added to the glee.

149 8/33a: "But Allah was not going to send them a Penalty whilst thou (Muslims*) wast amongst them - - -". - you, too, could be hurt. One of the weaker of Muhammad's ways of explaining away requests for proof of Allah and of his own claimed, but never proved connection to Allah; there is no problem for an omniscient and omnipotent god to pick his victims.

150 8/33b: "- - - nor was He (Allah*) going to send it (the penalty*) whilest they (bad people/non-Muslims*) could ask for pardon". There are two possible ways to understand this: He would not send it until at or after their moment of death, or until the Day of Doom - which in reality means the same, as the dead ones experience no time between their death and the Day of Doom according to the Quran (a "fact" to remember when Hadiths tell about punishment in the grave - impossible if there is no time between death and the Day of Doom).

151 8/34a: "- - - when they (Meccans*) keep out (men) from the Sacred Mosque - - -". During the years from 622 AD and the flight to Medina, and until 629 AD the Muslims were denied admittance to the Kabah by the people of Mecca.

152 8/34b: "- - - the Sacred Mosque - - -". = The Kabah mosque in Mecca.

153 8/34c: A small thought here: The Kabah is very central to Allah - his most holy place on Earth. But Yahweh does not even bother to mention neither Kabah nor Mecca. And pilgrimage to Mecca? - Jesus does not mention any kind of pilgrimage at all. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad - if he had been a real prophet - in the same line of prophets?

154 8/34d: "- - - they (the people of Mecca*) are not its (the Kabah mosque's*) guardians - - -". The people of Mecca were reckoned to be the guardians of the Kabah, but Muhammad disagreed, as they did not believe in his new religion.

155 8/34e: "No men can be its (the Kabah's*) guardians except the righteous - - -". - and only Muslims were righteous, Muhammad claimed. But see 8/34e just below.

156 8/34f: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

157 8/34g: "- - - most of them (the people and the leaders in Mecca*) do not understand". At least they understood that something in the new religion was wrong, and also they understood it was a war for power. Dominating the Kabah meant power - and riches.

158 8/35a: "- - - the House (of Allah) - - -". Another name for the Kabah mosque in Mecca.

159 8/35b: "- - - the House (of Allah) - - -". A small thought here: The Kabah is very central to Allah - his most holy place on Earth. But Yahweh does not even bother to mention neither Kabah nor Mecca. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Also see 8/34c above.

160 8/35c: "Their (the pagan Arabs*) prayer at the House (of Allah) is nothing but whistling and clapping of hands - - -". Muhammad’s haughty description. The deep irony here is that in reality there were a number of pagan customs and ceremonies connected to the Kabah, and Muhammad took over most of these pagan ways of worship more or less unabridged - the pagans obviously had known the correct ways of worship Allah, but only the pagans in Arabia. Two remarkable coincidences?

Besides: What is the value of Muslims' prayers if Allah had predestined everything according to his unchangeable Plan a long time ago, like the Quran states several places? If such predestination is true, prayers just are waste of time and effort (and if it is not true, something more is severely wrong with the religion).

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

161 8/35d: "Taste ye (the pagans of Mecca before Muhammad took over*) the Penalty because ye blasphemed". See 3/77b above.

162 8/35e: "- - - blasphemed". The pagan Arabs' belief only were blasphemy against Allah if Allah exists (unlikely as the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is not from a god - and his existence never proved) and their beliefs in addition were wrong (likely, but also never proved).

163 8/36a: "- - - the Path of Allah - - -". The claimed road to the Quran's paradise - see 10/9f below. But if Allah does not exists, also this claimed paradise does not exists.

164 8/36b: "The Unbelievers will be gathered together in Hell - - -". See 3/77a.

165 8/36c: "The Unbelievers will be gathered together in Hell - - -". As far as the "unbelievers" instead believe in the Bible, the Bible contradicts this.

166 8/36d: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". = Non-Muslims - one of Muhammad’s many distance inducing names for them.

167 8/36-37: A pep-talk.

168 8/37a: "In order that Allah may separate the impure from the pure - - -". Does an omniscient god need means to separate believers from not believers? Where is the logic?

169 8/37b: "- - - the pure - - -". = Good Muslims.

170 8/37c: "- - - the impure - - -". = Non-Muslims and failed Muslims.

171 8/37d: "- - - the pure - - - the impure - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like these, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

172 8/37e: "- - - cast them (the bad ones*) into Hell". See 3/77b above.

173 8/37f: "They (mainly the non-Muslims*) will be the ones to have lost". If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth about the claimed next life. And only if none of the non-Muslims happen to believe in a real god (if such one exists). It here is ironic that Muslims all will be among the lost ones if the Quran does not tell the full truth - and on many points it is full of mistakes, so full that it is not made by any god.

174 8/38a: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". = Non-Muslims - one of Muhammad’s many distance inducing names for them.

175 8/38b: "- - - (- - - Unbelief) - - -". Any religion but Islam (atheists were very few at that time, but are included here).

176 8/38c: "- - - their (sinners'/non-Muslims'*) past will be forgiven them - - -". This only is possible if Allah is an existing god, and in addition a benevolent and forgiving god. (In spite of all big and glorious words, f. x. 1/1a above indicate that he - if he exists - is not much forgiving. And remember that demands and deeds are much more reliable than cheap, big words. To find the real truth in a piece of propaganda, skip the glorious words and read the demands and deeds.

177 8/38d: "- - - the punishment of those before them (non-Muslims*) is already (a matter of warning for them)." See 3/77b above.

178 8/38e: "- - - the punishment of those before them (non-Muslims*) is already (a matter of warning for them)." How can it be a warning, as the Day of Doom has not arrived yet, and thus no punishment given? The claims about what is going to happen may be a warning, but not the happening itself, as it has not happened. But then perhaps Muhammad means the ruins in and around Arabia and/or folk tales about former tribes, both of which Muhammad claimed were destroyed because of sinning against Allah? The text is not clear on this.

**179 8/38-39a: “Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief (become Muslims*)), their past would be forgiven them, but if they persist, the punishment for those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). And fight with them until there is no more tumult and oppression, and there prevail justice (sharia?*) and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere”. Well, this to say the least of it contradicts and abrogates and kills:

2/256: “Let there be no compulsion in Religion” and some other older, “soft” verses.

##5/28: “If thou (“infidels”, Cain*) dost stretch thy hand against me (Muslims, Abel*), it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee - - -.” When you read this, remember that Muslims have few if any overall moral codes and no moral philosophy - only the words and example of Muhammad. What they have to do is to look for “What did Muhammad say about such things?” If he has said something, they take that as a codex – good moral or not. If not, they have to look in the book: “Is there a parallel situation somewhere?” If they find – sometimes by stretching imagination – that is the way to act, or the alibi for how one wishes to act. Mind also that this verse is one of the very few in all the Quran that is in accordance with the teachings of Jesus – one of the very few. And it is totally “murdered” by abrogations.

(2 abrogations).

#180 8/38-39b: “Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief (= becomes Muslims*)) their past will be forgiven them; but if they persists - - - fight whit them - - -”. Muslims like to quote the Quran saying that there shall be no forcing others to become Muslims - it is used as a proof for that such things never happen (f.x. 2/256). But here it is said just the opposite: Become Muslims or fight. This in reality was often the choices the other part had: Come to Islam or die - though it should be mentioned that this mostly were the case when Islam waged war on pagans, not so often when the other part were Jews or Christians - though this, and also pogroms, happened frequently. Some Muslim wars of conquest were rather bloody (understatement) - included mass murders after the victory.

These two verses are interesting because:

They oppose - contradicts - another verse (2/256: "Let there be no compulsion in religion") - which the Quran, Islam and Muslims say never happen.

They prove that force may be used to convert people to Islam.

They tell that refusing to convert to Islam is a valid reason for attack according to the Quran. (Actually all the 4 law schools in Islam accepted that the fact that an opponent was non-Muslim as sufficient reason for declaring holy war - jihad - on him and attack. This right up to the first part of the 20th century.)

###181 8/39a: “And fight with them (the Unbelievers who will not convert to Islam*) on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere”. Comments should be unnecessary. Fight war till Islam dominates everywhere. An order and an incitement.

We may add that “The Message of the Quran adds (remark 41 to surah 8) that only war in self defense is permitted, but self defense in “the widest meaning of the word”. And the “widest meaning” is a very wide expression – absolutely anything can be (and is) explained as being done in self defense, as the non-Muslims are the guilty ones for everything. One striking sample you may meet, is the “fact” that “all Americans are guilty of aggression against Islam and can be killed, because they pay tax to the state of USA”. No concession because they after all are forced to pay tax – few do it gladly. No concession to the millions that do not pay tax. No concession to the ones that oppose the war in the Middle East. Not even concession to the - still some millions (f.x. youths) - who do not pay tax (f.x. students) and in addition oppose that war. Everybody is guilty – slay them. That is how “in the widest meaning” sometimes is used. "Only in self defense" here in many cases simply is a bitter joke with no real meaning or value except as propaganda.

###181a 8/39aa: “And fight with them (the Unbelievers who will not convert to Islam*) on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere”. Religious war is incompatible with the Bible, not to mention the NT.

#182 8/39b: “- - - there (shall*) prevail justice and faith in Allah all together and everywhere - - -”. There shall be the rule of law - but the Muslim rule of law, where f.x. a non-Muslim cannot witness against a Muslim. But to be fair, the Quran several places tells that judges shall judge correctly, so if there is no special reason, if the judge is not against non-Muslims, if he is not corrupt, etc., there was a reasonable chance to get a fair decision - fair according to Muslim laws. At least as long as your opponent was not a Muslim, or worse, a powerful Muslim. In that case the law was/is not fair.

But Islam should - and shall - be the dominant religion.

####183 8/39c: “- - - there (shall*) prevail - - - faith in Allah all together and everywhere - - -”. No compulsion in religion? At least this is a clear declaration of Islam's goal.

184 8/39d "- - - justice - - -". Take a look at the sharia laws and see how much in them which already are injustice. Then compare them to a normal code of moral instead of the Muslim one - and you find even more which is injustice or immoral.

185 8/39e: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

186 8/39f: "- - - verily Allah doth see all that they (non-Muslims*) do". Why then does he have to test people? - Muslims and non-Muslims alike?

187 8/40a: “If they (the enemy*) refuse (to stop fighting – and remember that for hundreds of years the Muslims mostly were the aggressors*), be sure that Allah is your Protector - - -.” Allah helps you in any fight against “infidels”- real defense or "defense in the widest meaning of the word" = attack or raids for wealth and slaves and power and for expanding Islam.

188 8/40b: "- - - Allah is your (Muslims'*) Protector - the Best to protect and the Best to help". If he exists and is a god approximately like the Quran claims. But remember that there is not one single documented case of help or protection from Allah throughout the times anywhere in the world - a number of claims, but not one documented case".

189 8/40c: "(Allah is*) - the Best to protect and the Best to help". Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the best one for this. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

190 8/41a: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” These 20% - 100% in some cases - in reality were for Muhammad to use. Did he "demand no payment for what he did" like he claims some places in the Quran?

191 8/41b: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” Part of the background for paragraphs in the sharia law.

192 8/41c: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) (an all if the victims gave in without a fight*) - - -.” Try to find something like this in the Bible, not to mention in the NT! Yahweh and Allah the same god? An imbecile question. (The only time Yahweh asked for part of a booty - and then for his priest and the Levites (4. Mos. 31/28-29) he asked for 1/500 of half and 1/50 of the other half).

193 8/41d: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” Which means that 80% is for the warriors and leaders in the war – an economical incentive which for many a poor man counted much more than the religion – war and terror = good business. Many became well-to-do, many became rich, and some became very rich – and were dream models for new generations of robber warriors and robber barons. But Muslims and Islam never mentions the cost in destruction and destroyed lives which were the price millions had to pay for this unjust prosperity of the robbers and destroyers. It frequently took (the surviving) locals 100-200 years and more just to regain their standard of life, not to mention freedom. The warriors of the good and benevolent god of “the Religion of Peace” frequently mass murdered and massacred and enslaved “en gross” – and stole everything. Jerusalem f.x. got a hunger catastrophe after being occupied in 638 AD - the Muslims stole everything, included the food.

194 8/41e: "- - - out of all the booty that ye may acquire - - -a fifth share is assigned to Allah - and to the Messenger (and to be paid to Muhammad*) - - -". No place in the NT Yahweh or Jesus demand part of stolen things (politely called booty). One single place in OT Yahweh demands a small share (see 8/41c above). Even compared to this Muhammad - not one, but each time - demanded on behalf of Allah 10 - 100 times as much - and not for sacrifice (mostly for "gifts" (bribes) to stay popular and stay in power, for "gifts" to buy new or keep doubting followers, to pay for more war, and some for Muhammad and his family - and some for the poor). The same god, like the Quran and Islam claims? - and Muhammad and Jesus in the same line of prophets like that book and Islam claims? - believe it if you want, but you have to want to believe it to be able to do so".

195 8/41f: "- - - to Allah - and to the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A version of Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his platform of power; his god.

196 8/41g: "- - - to Allah - and to the Messenger (Muhammad*), and to near relatives (In YA1209 we find "In the Prophet's (Muhammad's*) lifetime a certain portion was assigned to him and his near relatives"), orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer- - -". He forgot to mention (?) for the expansion of Islam and for war. Also see 63/5a above.

197 8/41h: “- - - the revelation (the Quran*) We (Allah*) sent down - - -“. A book with that many mistakes, that much invalid logic, etc. is neither made by a god, nor revered as a Mother Book in his heaven, nor sent down by an omniscient god.

198 8/41i: "- - - revelation - - -". See 4/47c and 5/59e above.

199 8/41j: "- - - sent down to Our (Allah's*) servant (Muhammad*) - - -". Can a man whose preaching has so much errors and a man whose moral is so doubtful be the accepted servant of a god, not to mention a claimed benevolent and just god?

200 8/41k: "- - - the Day of Testing (in the battle of Badr*) - - -". But WHY do an omniscient and omnipotent and claimed benevolent god need to test people by making them kill each others, when he as an omniscient knows everything, and as an omnipotent makes a satirical joke of all tests because in his Plan he has decides all that will happen in the battle and everything else before and after it happens? The whole concept just is black humor and sadism. But if it was Muhammad who needed a way to explain away his need for battles to gain wealth for bribes and power, then suddenly there is logic in it - people who wants to believe, may believe even stories like this, especially if they are naive and/or uneducated.

201 8/41l: "- - - the Day of the meeting of the two forces". Here the Battle of Badr.

202 8/41m: "- - - the Day of the meeting of the two forces". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

203 8/41n: "For Allah hath power over all things". A power never really proved in case.

204 8/42a: "Remember ye (Muslims*) were on the hither side of the valley, and they (the army from Mecca*) on the farther side, and the caravan on the lower ground - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

205 8/42b: "- - - ye (Muslims*) were on the hither side of the valley, and they (the army from Mecca*) on the farther side, and the caravan on the lower ground - - -". See 8/26b above.

206 8/42c: "- - - ye (Muslims*) were on the hither side of the valley, and they (the army from Mecca*) on the farther side, and the caravan on the lower ground - - -". At Badr Muhammad had left Medina to rob a big caravan, but instead met an army from Mecca.

207 8/42d: "Even if ye had made a mutual appointment to meet - - -". No miracle or influence from any god was necessary to explain this meeting: The Meccans were searching for the Muslims, and as they knew where the caravan was, they knew approximately where to look for them.

208 8/42e: "- - - those who died might die after a clear Sign (had been given), and those who lived might live after a clear Sign (had been given)". Or does this in reality mean: "- - - so that the denial of the truth on the part of him who has denied it, and the faith of him who has attained it, might become clearly evident"? (Zamakhshari). The language in the Quran is very far from clear, in spite of Islam's and the Quran's and Muslims' claims about this.

209 8/42f: “- - - clear Sign - - -“. There is not one single clear sign/proof in the Quran or any other place – neither for Allah, nor Muhammad having connection to a god, nor for warriors going to Paradise, nor for a Paradise as described in the Quran. See 2/39b and 2/99a above.

210 8/42g: "- - - Clear Sign - - -". See 8/42c just above.

211 8/42h: "And verily Allah knoweth and heareth (all things)". See 2/233h above.

212 8/42i: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

213 8/43a: "Remember in thy (Muhammad's') dream Allah showed them (the warriors from Mecca*) as few - - -". This refers to a dream Muhammad is said to have had just before the battle of Badr, in which he dreamt that the enemies were few. There is no clear report about this dream or about exactly what it contained, however.

214 8/43b: "- - - thy (Muhammad’s*) dream - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13 above.

215 8/43c: "- - - For He (Allah*) knoweth well all (secrets) of (all) hearts". See 2/233h above.

216 8/44a: “And remember when ye met (in battle at Badr*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

217 8/44b: “And remember when ye met (in battle at Badr*), He (Allah*) showed them to you as few in your eyes, and He made you appear as contemptible in their eyes - - -.” Remember – because this Allah may do the next time, too, and you will win like at Badr. Comforting to know.

218 8/44c: "For to Allah do go all questions go back (for decision)." All and everything ends with Allah for decision - because it is Allah who decides absolutely everything, and he decides it by predestination and according to his unchangeable Plan, which nobody and nothing can change, according to the Quran. (But if nothing can be changed from his predestined plan, which help can then f.x. prayers to Allah make? - everything is unchangeably locked to his Plan already according to the Quran!? - and man can have no free will).

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

219 8/45a: "O ye who believe!" = Muslims - only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

220 8/45b: “When ye meet a force, be firm - - -.” Order and pep-talk. But why if Allah already has decided what is going to happen? There is no logic in this in that case - and in many other cases. (But there is logic if all the tales about predestination just are tales to make Muhammad's naive and blindly believing warriors believe that war and battles are no more dangerous than playing with your children or tending your fields back home. But how come that Allah had predestined the time of your death, but not when you were to become rich? - you only became rich if you went on raids or wars and stole things, not if you at just the same time instead were sleeping in your bed.

221 8/46a: "And obey Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Likely the most valuable version of this mantra Muhammad often used in the Quran, if his wish was to make his followers obey himself. MANY other "prophets" have said and done similar things for that reason.

222 8/46b: "And obey Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

223 8/46c: "- - - Messenger - - -". See 63/5a below.

224 8/46d: "- - - and fall into no disputes, lest ye lose heart - - -". Do not debate the religion - you may come to know the weak spots of it and see that something is wrong and start thinking. A normal point of view from leaders of extreme sects. Procelyting, yes, disputing and perhaps getting unwanted facts, no.

225 8/46e: "- - - be patient and persevering - - -". This is an expression which is imprinted and imprinted and impressed on Muslims in the Quran - and an expression and a word no non-Muslim should never forget: Be patient and persevering and sooner or later the opposite part or enemy grows tired and gives in, and you win, whereas the "enemy" must withdraw or accept suppression.

###226 8/46f: "- - - Allah is with those (Muslims*) who patiently persevere - - -". Well, at least it is very clear that this stratagem works, and especially against democracies, as one of the weak sides of democracies is that all too often fractions - often big fractions - do not like to fight, and wants to evade fighting, or if it starts they wants to stop it too early.

227 8/46g: "- - - patiently persevere." See 8/46c just above.

228 8/47a "- - - the path of Allah - - -". The road to the Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

229 8/47b: "- - - for Allah compasseth round about all that they (non-Muslims*) do". = Allah easily outwits them.

230 8/48a: "Remember Satan made their (sinful) acts seem alluring to them - - -". A number of acts accepted or advocated or even ordered in the Quran are from sinful to extremely sinful in all other of the large religions - and nearly all of the small ones - and also conflicting human rights and against all normal moral laws and rules. Not to mention the it conflict with the very basis of all inter human moral: "Do onto others like you want others do onto you". The Quran is not made by any god, not to mention a good or benevolent god - too many errors, etc. and too horrible moral - or immoral - code. If the Quran is made by dark forces or even by one or more selfish humans, it is not strange if Satan has made the Muslims' sinful acts just and alluring to them. May thus Muslims be included here?

231 8/48b: "- - - for Allah is strict in punishment." A strong reminder: Be good, be obedient, fight in battle - if not Allah will punish you strictly. The good and benevolent "Religion of Peace"? Also see 3/77b above.

232 8/49a: "The hypocrites (at the time of Moses*) say - - - : 'These people - - - (etc.*)'". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

233 8/49b: "- - - those in whose hearts is decease - - -". One of Muhammad's many distaste inducing names for non-Muslims.

234 8/49c: "Allah is exalted in Might - - -". Two more of all the never proved or documented statements or claims the Quran is overflowing with. Use your brain and your knowledge, and not only your eyes and ears, and you will find lots of them - in the Quran and in the words from Islam and from Muslims. In this case it is told about often claimed, never proved might.

235 8/49d: "Allah is - - - wise". Not if he made the Quran.

236 8/50a: This is one of the many pep-talks in the Quran - we point to a few of them. Look, and you will find a lot more.

237 8/50b: "- - - Unbelievers - - -" = non-Muslims - only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

238 8/50c: (A8/57): “If thou ((Muslims*) couldst see, when the angels take the souls of the (unbelievers) at death - - -.” This is the meaning if you guess that the Arab word “yatawaffa” refers to the angels. But if you guess it refers to Allah, the sentence becomes like this: “- - - when He (Allah*) causes (them) to die - - -”. A detail in difference for the one who dies. But for a text which is “correct and identical to Muhammad’s and Allah’s words to the last comma”, even this is a significant proof for that this claim is wrong. And these variants of course also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has/have more than one meaning.

239 8/50d: "Taste (non-Muslims and hypocrites*) the Penalty of the blazing Fire - - -". See 3/77b above.

240 8/50e "- - - the blazing Fire - - -". Hell.

**241 8/50-51: "Taste the Penalty of the blazing Fire (of Hell*) - Because of (the deeds)which your (own) hands sent forth". This is a Quranic way of saying: "Because of the bad (or good) deeds you have done" - you meet this expression some times in the book. If a person does not have free will - or even limited free will like some Muslims try to explain the problem away with - it is against all and any moral law and feeling of justices to judge him guilty and judge him to Hell. If Allah does this, he is a very unjust or worse god. Because of this the Quran and Islam have to insist on that man has free will and commits the bad deeds from his own will contradicting and breaking Allah's laws and wishes and his Plan. But this is not possible if another and many times repeated 100% clear statement in the Quran is true: Allah decides everything - even the smallest details - and he decides it long time before it happens, as everything is part of his unchangeable Plan. These to statements are impossible to combine - even Islam admits this (here we are speaking about Islam, not about separate Muslims, many of whom do not have enough education and/or intelligence to be able to see the impossibility). What Islam/Muslim high scholars say is (A6/141 - 6/143 in the English 2008 edition): "This is impossible to explain and impossible for humans to understand or explain. But all the same it has to be true; as it is said (by Allah) in the Quran, it must be true (!!*)" The ultimate surrender to blind belief, not to say to blindness.

###This even more so as there exist immaterial laws which are unbreakable also for omnipotent gods to break. (A sample which is easy to understand, is that if you add the mathematical 1 to another mathematical 1, there only is one possible answer even for a god - the mathematical 2. Among the immaterial laws you will find a number of such samples, included some of the laws of logic, one of which the statement "full predestination + free will for man = true" is trying to break. Impossible. And beware that "partly free will" - a Muslim way of trying to explain the problem away - is as meaningless as full free will, if there is complete predestination like the Quran claims many places. And the other way around: Full clairvoyance or precognition - ability to see or know the future - is impossible for a god if man has even partly free will; after Allah thinks 'now I know the future', a man always can change his mind once more. But partly precognition is possible (this is what Yahweh has the Bible makes clear)).

##242 8/51: “Allah is never unjust to his servants”. Wrong. A star example: A woman is to be strictly punished for illegal sex after being raped, if she cannot produce 4 male eye witnesses to the rape. This is one of the most inhuman, immoral and unjust laws which exists on this Earth – at least in civilized or semi-civilized cultures.

243 8/52a: "- - - the People of Pharaoh (Ramses II*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

244 8/52b: "- - - the People of Pharaoh (Ramses II*) - - - they rejected the Signs of Allah - - -". See 8/49a above.

245 8/52c: “- - - Signs of Allah - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above. (Though just in this case there may have been valid signs if the old books tell the truth, but for Yahweh in case.)

246 8/52d: "- - - Allah punished them for their crimes - - -". At least for the pharaoh and his people, according to the Bible it was yahweh who punished them.

247 8/52e: "- - - Allah is strong - - -". Often claimed, never proved.

248 8/52f: "- - - Allah is strong, and strict in punishment - - -". See 3/77b above.

249 8/53a: "- - - until they (a people*) change what is in their (own) souls - - -". This is not possible for them if Allah predestines everything like the Quran tells many places. Then only Allah can change it. Full predestination + free will - even partly free will - is an impossibility even for an omnipotent god. As said before, in the realm of the immaterial world there are things impossible even for gods.

250 8/53b: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

251 8/53c: "- - - Allah is He Who heareth and knoweth (all things). The often repeated warning: Allah sees everything and knows everything. If you do good he will be kind to you (at least in the next life), but mind you: If you do bad he will punish you. Be good and obedient to Muhammad! Also see 2/233h above.

252 8/54a: "- - - the People of Pharaoh (Ramses II*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

253 8/54b: "- - - the People of Pharaoh (Ramses II*) - - - treated as false the Signs of their Lord (Allah*) - - -". See 8/49a above.

254 8/54c: “- - - Signs - - -“. Invalid as a proof for Allah. See 2/39b above. But also see 8/52a above.

255 8/54d: "- - - We (the god*) drowned the People of Pharaoh, for they were all oppressors - - -". What then about Muslims, as the Quran and its rules and orders about oppressing all other people are not from a god? (No god makes a book of a quality like the Quran - it would be heresy and an insult to any god to blame him for a book where so much is wrong.)

256 8/54e: "- - - they were all oppressors - - -". An ironic accusation from a religion whose official and broadcasted (though not to non-Muslims) intended aim is to suppress all non-Muslims in the world. See f. ex. 8/60 in the Quran.

257 8/54f: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

258 8/55a: "For the worst beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him - - -". Quite likely - - - if the Quran is not a made up book and Allah a fiction. At least that book is not from a god - too much is wrong.

259 8/55b: "- - - the worst beasts - - -". One of the many names Muhammad uses for "non-Muslims". Is it strange that Islam and many Muslims have a superiority complex towards all non-Muslims? - or that they often are reluctant to mingle too much with non-Muslims?

But here is a fact that is even more chilling: In YA1223 we read about non-Muslims: "The same brute creatures - - -". The distaste and inferiority propaganda against non-Muslims is not a phenomenon of the old times, but is the same now - the comments are written in modern times and are the words of modern commentators.

If the Quran had been any other book than just a claimed "holy" book belonging to a religion with much political power, it had been prohibited in most civilized countries for inciting to discrimination and apartheid and for distaste mongering, hate mongering, and war mongering.

(There will come a separate small chapter about this when we finish our "operation Quran" - in 2012 AD we hope).

260 8/55c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) will not believe (in Muhammad and his Quran*)- - -". Perhaps the real reason - at least for some - was that they had too much knowledge and saw that something was - and is - very wrong and, therefore, were unable to believe in it. It is difficult or impossible to believe in things which are proved wrong, for people able to see.

261 8/56: "They are those with whom thou (Muhammad? Muslims?) make a covenant, but they break their covenant every time, and they have not the fear (of Allah)." Muslim hypocrites? Jews? Christians? Pagans? Jews, Christians and for that case Pagans did not - and do not - have any fear of Allah, as they did - and do - believe that the Quran is a made up book and Allah a made up god. There are good reasons for such beliefs.

Muslim comments say this is about Banu Quraysh and its "repeated treachery".

#262 8/57a: “If you gain the upper hand over them in war, disperse, with them those who follow them, that they may remember.” Many a Muslim warrior and warlord followed this order thoroughly – they certainly were remembered many places - - - except by all those who were dead. Sind (now approximately Pakistan), India, Armenia, Greeks in Turkey to mention a few - and not to forget Africa, included the slave hunters - tens of millions to the Muslim areas north of Sahara and in Asia (15 millions arrived alive according to Encyclopedia Britannica - the lowest number we have found (to all the Americas 14 mill. and a much lower death rate during transport, also this number according to E. B.)), plus the millions of slaves in Muslim areas south of Sahara and the millions sold to American slave captains. (The American and other slave traders seldom hunted for slaves themselves. They bought from local slave hunters - a large percentage of them Muslims.)

#263 8/57b: “If you gain the upper hand over them in war, disperse, with them those who follow them, that they may remember". Please compare this to NT.

264 8/58a: “If thou fearest treachery from any group, throw back (their Covenant) to them - - -”. It was enough to “fear treachery” - or say they did - then the situation for non-Muslims suddenly became more unsafe. This has happened many times throughout history - sometimes resulting in pogroms and massacres. A late one was in Indonesia some years ago some 2ooo ethnical Chinese Indonesian citizen were murderer and a huge ransacking spree took place against ethnic Chinese Indonesian citizens (and that was not even because of fear, but because of the Chinese worked more and often were better educated and had become richer than Muslims), and one where at least 200ooo ethnic Chinese were killed 1 - 2 generations ago. A much worse story was against Armenians around 1900 AD. Some 1.2 million killed and no one knows how many girls/women were kidnapped for rape and/or harems. This story was in the news in 2007, and Turkey still does not have the backbone to face it. The same for Greeks in Turkey early in last century - the Turks do not have the backbone to tidy up after those atrocities, too. Darfur with at least 200ooo slaughtered civilians - takes place today. And there is no guaranty for the future, as there are many verses in the Quran telling Muslims how to treat non-Muslims. There always are verses to be found in the Quran telling Muslims to kill or suppress any non-Muslims.

There have been many more of the same kind (see our book about Jihad) - even though Muslims never talk about other facts than that at times - sometimes even long times - Muslim countries were relatively safe for Jews, etc. if they accepted inferior status and no power, little legal security and extra taxes - jizya and land tax (which sometimes could be heavy, because the Quran limited the rulers' possibilities to tax Muslims but put no limit on the jizya or land tax).

265 8/58b: “If thou fearest (“fearest” not “understandest” or “knowest”*) treachery from any group, throw back (their Covenant) to them, (so as to be) on equal terms: for Allah loveth not the treacherous.” – except Muslims - - - remember Muhammad’s betrayals and his words “War is betrayal” and "War is deceit" (Ibn Ishaq) Also remember al-Taqiyya (the lawful lies), Kitman (the lawful half-truth) and Muhammad's advice about breaking ones promises, words and oaths if that gave a better result.

266 8/58c: "- - - Allah loveth not the treacherous". What then about Muslims when they follow their great idol Muhammad, who said - and practiced - "War is betrayal", "War is deceit"?

267 8/59a: This verse is pep-talk.

268 8/59b: "- - - the Unbelievers - - -". All non-Muslims - only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

#269 8/60a: “Against them (the unbelievers*) make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, included steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies (and Muhammad’s enemies*) - - -.” Inside information from “the Religion of Peace”.

We may add the modern Muslim point of view (YA1226): "It is your duty to be ready against all, for the sacred Cause under whose banner you are fighting". (YA1227): Be always ready to put your resources (wealth and life*) into your Cause. You will not do so in vain. Allah's reward will come in various forms. He knows all, and His reward will always be more generous than you can possibly deserve". (YA1228) "It (fighting for Islam*) should be a joyful duty not for itself, but to establish the reign of peace and righteousness (remember here that words like this is used in accordance with the Quran's partly immoral moral code*) and Allah's Law". There are more like this. Also today Islam really is "the Religion of Peace".

270 8/60b: "- - - strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies - - -). Compare this to NT: "Turn the other cheek" (if someone strikes you on the cheek, do not take revenge, but turn the other cheek towards him), an "Love your enemies and pray for them" (f.x. Matt.5/43-48).

##271 8/60c: (A8/64 - 2008 English edition 8/65): "- - - the enemies of Allah - - -". Definition according to A8/64: "(The enemies of Allah are*) everyone who deliberately opposes and seeks to undermine the moral laws lay down by Allah" - and those people automatically are "an enemy of those who believe (Muslims*) in Him (Allah*)". The definition of "the enemies of Allah" is very interesting because of the Quran's too often very primitive, medieval or even pre-medieval, and at too many point immoral moral code based on a Nazi-like apartheid suppressive ("Übermench" rule, "Umtermench" suppressed) war ideology, and because of the extremely immoral moral underlying and expressed in some of the Sharia laws (f.x. "a woman is to be seriously punished for unlawful sex if she is raped, but cannot bring 4 male witnesses to the act" or: "a man who correctly accuses a woman for unlawful sex is unjust unto Allah, if he cannot bring 4 witnesses" - even though an omniscient Allah knows he is speaking the truth). The definition is given is these words: Allah's enemy is "everyone who deliberately opposes and seeks to undermine the moral laws laid down by Allah (= Muhammad's quoted words in the Quran*) - - -". Oppose f.x. the "lawful and good" military (nearly always Muslim) aggressions and raids, stealing/robbing, raping, extortion, enslaving, betraying ("war is betrayal"), murdering, etc., etc. during "holy wars" - and practically everything is called jihad (holy war) - or opposing the incitements for going to war on the slightest religious reason or alibi ("self defense in the widest meaning of the word" - the ideology that makes every disagreement a jihad) and you are an enemy of Allah.

And at least as bad: As the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is from no god, also its so-called moral also is not from any god, included Allah if he was a god.

Also of sinister meaning is YA's comment that "- - - everyone one - - - who actively opposes and seeks to undermine - - - (Allah's/Muhammad's (im)moral laws*) is, "eo ipso", an enemy of those who believe in Him (Allah*)". If you talk against Islam and its partly immoral moral rules, etc. you do not disagree with the Muslims, but you are an enemy of them. No wonder connections - or lack of such - sometimes are strained, and no wonder killing non-Muslims often are ok. Who wants to make friends with enemies? - enemies it is ok to kill. "The Religion of Peace" founded by a good and benevolent god?

272 8/60d: "- - - and others beside (other enemies of Allah or of you*), whom ye may not know - - -". YA (comment YA 1226): "There are always lurking enemies whom you may not know, but whom Allah knows. It is your duty to be ready against all, for the sacred Cause under whose banner you are fighting". There always are non-Muslims wanting to attack you, so always beware and be prepared for war with the untrustworthy unbelievers (NB: "the untrustworthy unbelievers", not "the untrustworthy of the unbelievers"). And remember: These comments are not written around 650 AD, but in modern times - they represent today's thinking of (many of) today's influential Muslims.

273 8/60e: “Whatever (money, time or your life*) ye shall spend in the Cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly”. Resources counts – for you to go to Paradise, for Muhammad (and Allah) to be able to make war. And warriors like you count – for you to gain loot or be sure to go to Paradise, for Muhammad (and Allah? – an omnipotent god really should not need war and mass murder and inhumanities? – especially not a good god,) to be able to make war and gain riches for f.x. “oiling” (bribes), and power and followers for his religion and platform of power.)

274 8/60f: "- - - unjustly". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. F.x. to kill and steal and rape and suppress in the name of Allah is to behave justly, if you do not want to go to war for Muhammad or his successors, you are behaving very unjustly. And for you not to be treated unjustly? - promises about claimed payment in a possible next life from a claimed, but never proved god are very cheap wages from a warlord.

275 8/61a: “But if the enemy inclines towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace.” Well, that was what was said. All too often it was not heeded if the Muslims were strong enough – or it resulted in a piece of terror or at best of suppression.

276 8/61b: "- - - trust - - -". See 2/2b above.

277 8/61c: "- - - trust in Allah - - -". Risky as long as Islam is not able to prove one millimeter about him - just claims and cheap words. In all other aspects of life blind belief is the most sure way to be cheated, and the one only serving claims and fast words in real world all too often is a cheater and deceiver - most often looking for power or wealth and sometimes women for himself.

278 8/61d: "- - - He (Allah*) is the One who heareth and knoweth (all things)". See 2/233 and 8/53a+c above.

279 8/62a: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

280 8/62b: "He (Allah*) it is that hath strengthened thee - - -". Often claimed, never proved.

281 8/62c: "He (Allah*) it is that hath strengthened thee with His aid - - -". Frequently claimed, never clearly proved. In all history of Islam there is not one single proved case of aid or help from Allah. Many claims, but not one proved case.

282 8/62d: "- - - Believers". = Muslims - only Muslims believe - not "believe right", but "believe" - according to the Quran.

#283 8/63a: "- - - He (Allah*) is Exalted in might - - -". One of the many never proved claims in the Quran. Just look for them - they are so many and so easy to see. Claims anyone can make on behalf of his god(s) free of charge - words are that cheap. If either the Bible or the Quran is correct about this, both Jesus and some of the older prophets in the Bible - at least Elisha /1.Kings 17/22 and 2. Kings 4/34-35), the disciple Peter (Acts 9/40) and even Paul (Acts 20/10) proved their connections to a god by resurrecting the dead, and many others by other miracles and/or real foretelling (a special kind of miracles). Muhammad was totally unable to prove anything at all - just claims and fast words. Even Islam (though not all Muslims) admits there exists no proofs for Allah - a main reason why Islam praises blind belief and scorns questions for proofs so much.

284 8/63b: "- - - He (Allah*) is - - - Wise". Not if he made the Quran - too much is wrong.

285 8/64a: "O Prophet! (Muhammad*)" But Muhammad was no real prophet - see 8/65a below.

286 8/64b: "O Prophet! (Muhammad*)". A historical anomaly. See 4/13 above.

287 8/64c: "Sufficient unto thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) is Allah - - -". Only if the Quran tells only the truth and the full truth - - - and if Allah exists and is a god, none of which is never proved.

288 8/65a: “O Prophet (Muhammad*)!“. But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet was a person who could see at least parts of the unseen, and thus a person who:

Has the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.

Makes prophesies which always or at least mostly come true.

Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for any person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not guess the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy, and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking (nearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying - of "seeing the unseen" - that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen (extra revealing here is that the old Biblical title for a prophet, was "a seer" - one who saw the unseen (f.x. 1. Sam. 9/9)) and also that Islam even today admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran” (prophesying is a kind of miracle - seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad "except the revelation of the Quran" also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories - but all the same many a mullah and imam and scholar use these stories, which Islam admits are made up ones, as "proofs" for that Muhammad had supernatural powers and was a prophet. Honesty is not the strong side of Muslim religious leaders.) Also see 30/40a and 30/46a, and we also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah according to Hadiths (f.x. Al-Bukhari) stated that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden or what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet. Similar in 6/50a, 7/188b, 10/20c+d, 10/49a, and 72/26.

As mentioned: Also relevant here is that the original title of the Jewish prophets as mentioned was not "prophet" but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F.x. 1. Sam. 9/9#, 1. Sam. 9/11, 1. Sam. 9/18, 1. Sam. 9/19, 2. Kings. 17/13, 1. Chr. 9/22, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1. Chr. 29/29, 2. Chr. 9/29, 2. Chr. 16/7, 2. Chr.16/10, 2. Chr. 19/2, 2. Chr. 29/25, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side). Muhammad thus so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen". One more proof for that he was not in the same line - not to say league - as Jesus, if the Bible and/or the Quran tell the truth about Jesus on this point.

Many liked - and like - the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for this title - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.

***This is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why.

It also is remarkable that Muhammad relatively seldom used the title "prophet" about himself in the Quran. He mostly used the title "Messenger", even though messenger in reality means an errand-boy (Muslims try to make this title something big and imposing, but this is the meaning of it). "Prophet" on the other hand is a heavy and impressive title telling a lot about the person. May the reason for why he did not use it so often, be that he knew he did not have what it took to merit that title, and was a little careful using it, so as not to provoke questions or comments? (And is this also the reason why Muslims try to pretend that "messenger" is something more impressive and heavy than "prophet"?)

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h below.

289 8/65b: "O Prophet! (Muhammad*)". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

290 8/65c: “O Prophet! (Allah says*) Rouse the Believers to the fight.” Some words for a presumably good and peaceful god. And some task for a god and perfect kind man representing and the great idol of a religion insisted to be a good, human and peaceful one - "the Religion of Peace"(!).

291 8/65d: “O Prophet! (Allah says*) Rouse the Believers to the fight.” Is Muhammad in the same line of prophets as Jesus??!!

292 8/65e: “O Prophet! (Allah says*) Rouse the Believers to the fight.” But the Arab words "'ala 'l-qital" may have another meaning, and then do this sentence perhaps mean "Inspire the believers to conquer all fear of death when fighting"? (A8/68 - in the English 2008 edition A8/69). As said before: The language in the Quran is far from clear often.

293 8/65f: "- - - Believers - - -". = Muslims - only Muslims believe - not "believe right", but "believe" - according to the Quran.

294 8/65g: “If there are twenty amongst you (Muslim warriors*), patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred (non-Muslims*), if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are people without understanding”. A good pep talk, at least to blind believers. During the civil war in USA the South said something similar - but lost the war. But the Quran is right on one point: Non-Muslims tends not to understand the fanatic and fatalistic way of thinking impressed on Muslim warriors and terrorists - they go on and on and refuse to give in. On the other hand Japanese soldiers were just like that during WWII, but they all the same totally lost the war - even Americans were able to learn.

*295 8/65h: You often see claimed that this verse is abrogated by 8/66. But 8/65 is generally speaking, whereas 8/66 is "For the present - - -". For the present Allah has lightened your task. An exception, not an abrogation. If you hunt for abrogations, beware of this: An exception given at the same time and in connection to a statement, is an exception, not an abrogation. But if the exception is found another place or is from another time - normally afterwards - it often is an abrogation. There are plenty of both contradictions and abrogations - you do not have to use for abrogations the ones which in reality only are exceptions meant as part of the meaning there and then.

296 8/65i: "- - - patient and persevering - - -". This (to be patient and persevering) is impressed and impressed on Muslim warriors and terrorists - a fact non-Muslims tends not to know or to forget.

297 8/66a: "For the present, Allah hath lightened your (task) - - -". See 8/65f above.

298 8/66b: “- - - but (even so (even if Allah has lightened the fight for you - by sending angle warriors?*)) if there are a hundred of you, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah - - -”. Another pep talk, and somewhat more realistic than 8/65e above. Besides: If you lose, know that is was not the enemy who was too strong for you, but Allah in his unfathomable wisdom who wanted it like that. (And Allah always has a good reason leading to a final victory).

But why cannot an omnipotent god just decide how he wants things to be and make it like that? Why does a presumably good and kind and loving and benevolent and omnipotent god have to let humans live through so much blood and murder and hate and rape and misery? Something in the Quran just does not add up.

299 8/66c: “- - - for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.” This is a pep talk all non-Muslims should forever remember - fanatic Muslim warriors never give in and never stop. And also: How many soldiers in the future did Spain kill by pulling out their few men from the East, and proving to Muslims just these words which are repeated and repeated in the Quran? - a proof that now may be strengthened by Australia pulling out, and by USA pulling out too early.

But a good and efficient pep-talk for Muslim warriors? Yes.

***300 8/67a: “It is not fitting for a Prophet (Muhammad*) that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land”. One of the moral and ethical real pinnacles in Islam. It takes an effort - and resources - to take care of prisoners. This Muhammad did not like - and voila! - Allah ordered him to kill all prisoners (of course with the exception of the ones one wanted as slaves or wanted to keep for extorting money for from their families - or women and girls for "personal use").

No doubt at all: A morally and ethically superior god and religion, and with lots of empathy - not to forget the perfect and good and kind and good-hearted Muhammad who was free from sins. (Actually there never were philosophers thinking on morality and ethics in Islam like f.x. in the old Greece or later in the West. Muhammad just picked from the contemporary traditions - in some cases he picked good ideas, in other cases he chose rather inhuman ideals, and that was it, as it never later has been permitted to think about whether his rules are good - or the best - or not.)

Does anybody wonder why Muslim warriors and terrorists sometimes murder prisoners - guilty or not?

301 8/67b: "- - - a Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". But Muhammad was no real prophet. See 8/65a above.

#302 8/67c: "- - - Allah looketh to the Hereafter - - -". Perhaps - if he exists and if he is a god (well, perhaps even if he is no god, but someone or something dressed up from the dark forces - also Hell is a Hereafter).

303 8/67d: "- - - He (Allah*) is Exalted in might - - -". One of the many never proved claims in the Quran. Just look for them - they are so many and so easy to see. Claims anyone can do on behalf of his god(s)free of charge - words are that cheap. If either the Bible or the Quran is correct about this, both Jesus and some of the older prophets in the Bible and f.x. Peter and Paul proved their connections to a god by miracles and/or real foretelling (a special kind of miracles). Muhammad was totally unable to prove anything at all - just claims and fast words. Even Islam (though not all Muslims) admits there exists no proofs for Allah - a main reason why Islam praises blind belief and scorns questions for proofs so much.

304 8/67e: "- - - He (Allah*) is - - - Wise". Not if he made the Quran - too much is wrong.

305 8/68a: "Had it not been for the previous ordainment from Allah, a severe penalty would have reached you for the (ransom) ye took." This somewhat obscure text is said to refer to an episode connected to the battle of Badr. Muhammad's uncle al 'Abbas (his descendants later founded the Abbasside dynasty of caliphs) was taken prisoner during that battle, and the Muslims took ransom for him - which they should not have done. But as Allah (?) then explained (Allah normally cleared up troubles for Muhammad afterwards, instead of explaining first, so trouble could have been avoided - not very considerate of an omniscient god) that this was part of his preordained Plan ("previous ordainment" - predestined) it was ok. Muhammad never did anything wrong - and if he all the same did, Allah fixed a rule which told that it all the same was not wrong. Convenient.)

1. Allah often solved problems or believed sins for Muhammad - and always in such a way that Muhammad was right or the sin in reality was no sin or a forgivable sin. Reason for thinking?

2. As said above: Such solving normally came after things were done - not before so that the problem or sin could have been avoided. Reason for thinking for you and us?

3. There are many details - or not details - in the Quran specific for Arabia or specific for the time of Muhammad, or specific for the life of Muhammad, but in reality irrelevant for the religion - here Muhammad's uncle. How come that all this ended in the Quran? The Quran after all is claimed to be a copy of the "mother book" in Allah's part of heaven, and how come that it ended in that book, written billions of years ago? Not to mention: Do Allah really revere a book full of such prosaic details and mistakes? - it is said in the Quran that the "mother book" is revered at Allah and by his angels. And how come that all these details are from Arabia and from the time of Muhammad mostly? - the world is much wider, the time is much longer both ways - a god for all the world and all the times should not be obliged to be time and place specific? And what about all the 124ooo former prophets (according to Islam)? - not one of them could understand what this one and many other details meant, as they did not know what the Quran was talking about, or in other cases they lived far off and could not understand Arab references. No omniscient god wanting to be understood by all people to all times would write so time and place specific. Reason for thinking things over for us?

306 8/68b: "- - - the ransom ye (Muhammad’s Muslims*) took - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d below.

####307 8/69a: “ "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good - - -”. This is one more of the moral and ethical pinnacles in the Quran: Wage war, and then it is “lawful and good” to steal and rob and plunder - and rape the women and girl children and take slaves. It actually is connected to 8/68a above, but like so often in the Quran specific episodes, etc, is given general meaning.

But of course this made it easy and cheap for Muhammad and his successors to get warriors. That such behavior is a catastrophe for any and all victims - and in some cases set back the civilization may be some hundred years like in Persia/Iran - does not count, as non-Muslim “Untermench” ("sub-humans" in Nazi German) do not count.

This even more so as for fanatics nearly every situation they do not like, can be defined as war against Islam “in the widest meaning of the word” - not to mention that according to Islam’s definition all areas not dominated by Islam are “land of war”. Really a morally and ethical superior religion - compare f.x. to the silly and invalid "Do unto others like you want others do against you", which many religions and culture have as their "constitution". And really a peaceful one.

And honestly the word “good” in ”lawful and good” classifies Muhammad, the Quran and Islam. Laws can be twisted and remade and it is no problem for an absolute dictator to make what laws he wants and thus make things “lawful” – quotation marks used on purpose. But the word “good” is an absolute – flexible “borders”, but fundamentally an absolute. Allah’s/Muhammad’s real rules for behavior against all outsiders is way outside “good”, and the hypocrisy in the using of abrogated verses in the Quran to make outsiders believe something else, makes this aspect of the religion and its hypocrisy even more disgusting.

308 8/69b: "- - - lawful and good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral code - sometimes very immoral.

#####309 8/69c: "- - - lawful and good - - -". If these words and the context it is taken from ("- - - enjoy what (loot, slaves, and women* + destruction and murder) ye took in war (normally of aggression*), lawful and good - - -"), were all you knew about the Quran and Islam, this alone would be enough to remove it from the civilized world and transfer it to the dark, harsh, and inhuman Medieval ages or earlier. This even more so as this is not "abrogated" by today's Islam, but on the contrary preached and even practiced today (during armed conflicts) in some Islamic fora and groups.

310 8/69d: "- - - good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral code - sometimes very immoral. In just this case the use of this word is a black joke compared to the fundamental sentence of all inter-human moral: "Do onto others like you want others do onto you".

311 8/69e: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

312 8/70a: “- - - Prophet - - -.” Wrong. See 8/65a above.

313 8/70b: “O Prophet! Say to those who are captives in your hands: ‘If Allah findeth any good in your hearts, He will give you something better than what has been taken from you - - -.” Muhammad was a great taker of slaves, and here he promises the slaves a better life in Paradise – the always cheap words. Some religion.

314 8/70c: “O Prophet! Say to those who are captives in your hands: ‘If Allah findeth any good in your hearts, He will give you something better than what has been taken from you, and He will forgive you - - -.” It also is a bit ironic that Muhammad had attacked and stolen and raped and murdered and enslaved - - - but it was his victims who needed forgiving. Some religion.

315 8/70d: "- - - He (Allah*) will forgive you (Muhammad's victims*) - - -". But Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and in addition is a god.

316 8/70e: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

317 8/71a: “- - - if they (prisoners of war) have treacherous designs against thee - - -”. How can an enemy prisoner “have treacherous designs” against someone? Per definition an enemy - even a prisoner - can fight you with different means (a prisoner f.x. can try to flee), but that is fighting, not betrayal. (To betray someone there has to be some sort of positive connection between the two parts - if not it is not betrayal or “treacherous designs“). Some Muslims say this refers to captives pretending to become Muslims to save themselves - but the Quran clearly says that what a Muslim is forced to say against his will, is not to sin, and why should it be different for non-Muslims?

318 8/71b: "- - - (O Messenger) - - -". See 63/5a below.

319 8/71c: "- - - (O Messenger (Muhammad*)) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

320 8/71d: "And Allah is He Who hath (full) knowledge and wisdom". See 8/53c and 8/63a above.

321 8/71e: "And Allah - - - hath (full) knowledge and wisdom". Not if he made the Quran.

322 8/72a: “Those who believed - - -". The (early) Muslims.

**323 8/72b: “Those who believed, and adopted exile, and fought for the Faith, with their property, and their persons - - -". = The earliest followers of Muhammad.

**324 8/72c: “Those who believed, and adopted exile, and fought for the Faith, with their property, and their persons - - -". A historical anomaly.

**325 8/72d: “Those who believed - - - and fought for the Faith, with their property (= gave money - like many Muslims do even today*) and their persons (= went to war personally*), in the cause of Allah, as well as those who gave them (warriors, terrorists*) asylum and aid (like what a large numbers of Muslims do today also - at least giving money and sympathy and aid to “the cause” included terrorism*) - all these (are good Muslims*)”. Comments unnecessary.

326 8/72e: "And (remember) Allah seeth all that ye do". A warning and a promise. But also see 3/77b above.

327 8/73a: "The Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad’s many distaste inducing names for non-Muslims.

##328 8/73b: "The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another - - -". Comment in "The Message of the Quran" (A8/82): (The fact that non-Muslims denies that the Quran is the truth) "precludes the possibility of their ever being real friends to the believers (Muslims*)". A clear message to all Muslims.

329 8/73c: “- - - unless you do this, (protect each other (included warriors and terrorists*)), there would be tumult and oppression on earth, and great mischief (because of the bad non-Muslims*)” No comments - especially since there is neither suppression of, nor mischief against non-Muslims in Muslim countries(?), or for that case in non-Muslim countries (terrorism).

330 8/73d: Comment to this verse in A8/82: "The fact of their (non-Muslims'*) being bent on denying the truth the divine message (the Quran*) constitutes - - - precludes the possibility of their ever being real friends to the believers (the Muslims)". Clear words for your money: If they are not Muslims, you cannot be real friends to them. Add to this the demand for dominance and you have a modern word: Apartheid.

331 8/74a: "Those who believe, and adopt exile (here the ones who fled Mecca*)- - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

332 8/74b: "Those who believe, and adopt exile, and fight for the Faith (today potentially ca. 0.5% according to Muslims on Internet = ca. 6 mill. - or some 4 million excluded the children (future fighters/terrorists*) - say some 3-4 million youths and adults), in the cause of Allah, in the cause of Allah as well as those who give (them) asylum and aid (potentially some 10 - 15% = 120 - 180 million included the 0.5% and children) and aid ((often money) some 30% according to science at least "understand why" the activists are active = some 360 million included children - children are included for the simple reason that we only have the total numbers of Muslims) - these are (all) in very truth the Believers - - -". Next time you meet a Muslim or someone else claiming terrorists and other Muslim warriors disuse the Quran to do their bloody work, show them this verse. The terrorists are not disusing the Quran - they are obeying it.

Tell the world how many Muslims there really are who "understand" the activists and how many potential terrorists there really are. But again: Remember that 70% of the Muslims are very ok. Be perhaps a little careful in given situations, but do not judge all and any Muslim to be a bad person - most of them are not, not even many of the 30%.

But there of course remains the problem: Who is who of them?

333 8/74c: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to Islam.

**334 8/74d: “- - - for them (warriors, terrorist and all their helpers and those giving them aid*) is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous”. This sentence tells a lot about Islam. And it also is a good pep talk.

It also may explain some of all the help terrorists get from “normal” Muslims.

But a serious question as a book with so many errors as the Quran is not from a god: Are these never proved claims true?

335 8/74e: "- - - very truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

336 8/74f: "- - - Believers - - -". = Muslims.

337 8/74g: "- - - for them (Muslims) is the forgiveness of sins - - -". Allah only can forgive if he exists and in addition is a god (not f.x. someone from dark forces dressed up like a god or like Gabriel - Muhammad would not have a chance to see the difference).

338 8/74h: "- - - for them (Muslims) is the forgiveness of sins and a provision most generous". Often promised, never anything proved - and besides: Who is behind the promise as there is no god behind the Quran? - no god makes that many errors.

339 8/74i: This verse is not from the Bible. (Actually very little in the Quran is from the Bible, though a lot is from Biblical legends, apocryphal - made up - scriptures and fairy tales inspire by the Bible - these, however, often varies much from the Bible. And We remind you: Both science and Islam have proved very thoroughly that the Quran's never documented claim that the Bible is falsified, is wrong.)

340 8/75a: “And those (non-Muslims*) who accept Faith (become Muslims*) subsequently, and fight for the Faith in your company - they are of you”. If you become Muslim and wage war for Islam, you have proved you are a real Muslim. A good kind of proof for any Muslim leader who needs warriors or terrorists.

341 8/75b: "- - - fight for the Faith - - -". This is not from the Bible. There is fighting in the OT, but for the nation. In NT fighting hardly is accepted at all. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets? 2 imbecile questions. Incompatible with the Bible.

342 8/75c: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to Islam.

343 8/75d: "But kindred by blood have no rights against each other in the Book of Allah". Family ties were strong in Arabia, but Islam all the same split many families. It was essential to break down the family ties not to lose followers. This always have been a norm in extreme sects and is a normal custom for such sects even today.

344 8/75e: "- - - the Book of Allah - - -". Normally the Quran, here Allah's Plan and rules.

345 8/75f: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

346 8/75g: "Verily Allah is well acquainted with all things". Similar to 8/53c and 8/63a above. But also see 2/233h above.

Surah 8 subtotal: 346 + 3 + 5609 = 5958 comments.

#####219a 8/69c: "- - - lawful and good - - -". If these words and the context it is taken from ("- - - enjoy what (loot, slaves, and women* + destruction and murder) ye took in war (normally of aggression*), lawful and good - - -"), were all you knew about the Quran and Islam, this alone would be enough to remove it from the civilized world and transfer it to the dark, harsh, and inhuman Medieval ages or earlier. This even more so as this is not "abrogated" by today's Islam, but on the contrary preached and even practiced (during armed conflicts) today in some Islamic fora and groups.

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For the mistakes also see "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" ( http://www.1000mistakes.com ), and for Jihad: "1000+ points on Jihad and on the greed, lust, distaste-mongering, apartheid-mongering, hate-mongering and war-mongering used building up to Jihad in the Quran and in Hadiths" ( http://www.1000mistakes.com/jihad-holywar/index.php ). And for tit-bits from this page see http://www.1000quran-comments.com .

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#####8/69c: "- - - lawful and good - - -". If these words and the context they are taken from ("- - - enjoy what (loot, slaves, and women* + destruction and murder) ye took in war (normally of aggression*), lawful and good - - -") were all you knew about the Quran and Islam, this alone would be enough to remove them from the civilized world, and transfer it to the dark, harsh, and inhuman Medieval ages or earlier. This even more so as this is not "abrogated" (made invalid) by today's Islam, but on the contrary are preached many places all over even today in some Islamic fora and groups and countries. (And even practiced during armed conflicts - Bangladesh, East Timor, East Africa, and Indonesia a "short" time ago. Low intensity active in f.x. Indonesian New Guinea and parts of Africa even now (2010).)

Just remember that most Muslims are ok. Only a minority is militant - 1-2% according to Muslims (but 2% of 1.2 billion = 24 million). Then according to international science some 30% (= some 360 million) are willing to help the militants actively or with money, or at least "understand" them. The rest - the majority - are ok. (But our problem is to know who is who.)

But what is absolutely sure, is that apologists telling that "there are verses in the Quran which can be misused by terrorists", are talking nonsense. According to the Quran it is very clear it is the peaceful Muslims who are not good Muslims, and the activists who are laudable and obeying Muhammad and Allah.

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10/32: "- - - apart from the Truth, what (remains) but error?"

(A6/92 - English 2008 edition A6/93): "- - - it is in the nature of man to regard the beliefs which have been implanted in him(!) from his childhood, and which he now shares with his social environment, as the only true and possible one - - -". This goes for Muslims more than for any other, because the imprinting is much stronger.

From 6/149a: "You meet this lack of moral backbone and the ability in Islam and in Muslims to overlook or explain away even the strongest facts, at every point in the Quran where there are mistakes, contradictions or other proofs for that something is wrong in the Quran, and thus with Muhammad and with his religion - proofs they are unable to face for that Islam as told in the Quran is not a religion, but a superstition".

"Religious 'knowledge' nearly always in reality only is belief - often strong belief, but only belief". (In Islam exactly nothing of any consequence is proved - on the contrary: Much is proved wrong and thus that it is from no omniscient god.)

A world dominated by Islam is quite possible - Islam is expanding. Will it end up like North Pakistan or Afghanistan or like Saudi Arabia without oil - or somewhere in between? - and this because of a religion which itself proves that something is seriously wrong with its teaching, and also that there is no god behind its "holy" book (no omniscient god makes mistakes), and thus not behind the religion.

A nice future for our grandchildren?


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