1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 78 -- An-Naba (The Great News)
20 June 2012
Revelation: Mecca, 620 - 622 AD.
(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)
The quotes and comments
001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.
002 78/1: "Concerning what they (Non-Muslims*) are disputing". Like so much in the Quran it is unclear what Muhammad meant here, but likely the possible next life.
003 78/2-3: "- - - the Great News about which they (non-Muslims*) cannot agree." It is unclear what here really is meant - as you understand the language in the Quran is claimed to be clear, distinct, and easy to understand (?). The two most likely meanings either is the Quran (on which many could not agree for very understandable reasons (f.x. too many mistakes)), or the resurrection in body - which also and for understandable reasons were difficult to believe in for many. Or even resurrection at all? As showed many times the language in the Quran often is far from clear and easy to understand.
004 78/4a: "Verily - - -". See f. x. 2/2b and 61/4a above.
005 78/4b: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) shall soon (come to) know!". This most likely refers to the Day of Doom.
006 78/5a: "Verily, verily - - -". See f. x. 2/2b and 61/4a above - a doubtful claim does not become less doubtful even if one repeats a suspect word.
007 78/5b: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) shall soon (come to) know!". This most likely refers to the Day of Doom.
008 78/6a: “Have We (Allah*) not made the earth a wide expanse - - -?” We know from other places in the Quran that this expanse is flat, and may be round like a disk, but flat. Wrong: The real Earth is a sphere.
009 78/6b: “Have We (Allah*) not made the earth as a wide expanse.” The Quran has been saying the same before - Allah made the (flat) Earth. But here it is used as a proof - - - without ever having been proved - without ever having been more than statements built on loose words. A claim just taken from nature and used many times in the Quran. The Quran tried to give Allah the credit, but only words - words any priest or “prophet” for any god could/can use just as cheaply and just as empty for value as a proof for their god or gods. To mention it ones more: Cheats, swindlers and deceivers often use tactics like this. Also see 11/7a above.
010 78/7: “(Allah made*) the mountains as pegs - - -“. Some Muslims say: Hip, hurray – here is a proof for Muhammad and the Quran: The science talks about the “roots” of the mountains – the mountains are like pegs! How could Muhammad know?!" But mountain “roots” are not like pegs, but like bulges or distorted sheets (as mountains and mountain chains often are long and narrow – look at the Rocky Mountains – Andes chain f. ex.) or as distorted hemisphere. There exist deep pegs – or really sheets – pointing far down into the mantel (melted stone), but not in connection to mountains or mountain ranges really, though they may co-exist: They exist some places where large pieces of the Earth’s crust – tectonic plates – are forced downwards because of movements of the crust (tectonic movement). But that has nothing to do with mountains (even though mountains may be secondary results of the movement) – it is something entirely different. Contradicted by geological facts.
011 78/8: “And (have We (Allah*)) not created you - - - ?” An unproved statement used as (invalid) proof - it is never proved that Allah created man. See 6/2b, 11/7a, and 78/6b above.
012 78/9: “(And has not Allah*) made your sleep for rest - - -”. Unproved statement used as (invalid) proof. Did Allah really invent sleep? See 11/7a and 78/6b above.
013 78/10: “(And has not Allah*) made the night as a covering - - -”. Did Allah invent the night? - unproved statement used as proof. See 11/7a and 78/6b above. And is lack of light - nothing - a covering?
014 78/11: “(And has not Allah*) made the day as a means of subsistence?” Did Allah really invent the day - or is it a by-product of the sun’s shining and the Earth‘s revolving? And was it really meant for subsistence, or was that, too, a by-product of the shining of the sun? Two statements used as proofs - both just unproved statements and both suspect. And both invalid as proof as long as it is not proved that Allah made it. Also see 11/7a and 78/6 above.
##015 78/12a: “And (have We (Allah*) not) built over you - - - firmaments - - -?” For something to be built, materials have to be used – the heavens also from other pieces of information must be made from something material. Wrong: The sky as we see it, just is an optical illusion – or actually 2 (bending of sunlight makes the blue "sky" at day, out inability to see in 3 dimensions at those distances, makes the night sky look like being in 2 dimensions at night). That the Quran believes the firmaments are material, also is proved by the fact that it tells the stars are fastened to the lowest heaven - they could not be fastened unless there was something material to fasten it to.
**016 78/12b: “And (have We (Allah*) not) built over you the seven firmaments - - -?” Wrong: See 67/3 a, 67/3b, 67/5a and 67/5b above. Simply and doubly wrong.
017 78/12-13: “And have We (Allah*) not built over you the seven firmaments, and placed (therein) a light of Splendor (= the sun*)?” The sun is not placed among (“therein”) the 7 firmaments.
018 78/13: “And (has not Allah*) placed (therein) a Light (the sun*) of Splendor - - -”. One more loose and suspect statement (did Allah create the sun?) without proofs, used as a proof. Entirely without value - and a kind of proof no god would use. Also see 11/7a and 78/6 above.
019 78/14: “And do We (Allah*) not send down from the clouds water in abundance - - -”. Invalid as a proof, as it is not proved that Allah has anything to do with the rain at all. See also 11/7a and 78/6 above.
020 78/15: “(And*) That We (Allah*) may produce therewith (rain) corn and vegetables - - -”. Also this proof is invalid because it is based on loose presumptions, not proved facts - it is nowhere proved that Allah has anything to do with the growing of anything. Also see 11/7a and 78/6 above.
021 78/16: “And (do not Allah produce) gardens of luxurious growth?” See 11/7a, 78/6 and 78/15 above.
022 78/17a: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.
023 78/17b: "- - - the Day of Sorting Out - - -". The Day of Doom.
024 78/17c: "- - - the Day of Sorting Out is a thing appointed - - -". Once more the predestination - Allah predestines everything included the Day of Doom according to his unchangeable Plan.
025 78/18a: "The Day that the Trumpet shall be sounded - - -". The Day of Doom.
026 78/18b: "- - - ye (people*) shall come forth (for doom*) in crowds - - -". This is one of the many never proved claims in the Quran, which cannot be true unless Allah exists, a claim which is proved nowhere. (But it is one of the many places where Allah - if he exists - may act even if he is from the dark forces, if only he has enough power).
027 78/19a: “And the heavens (plural and wrong*) shall be opened as if there were doors - - -”. There is nothing to open in open space.
028 78/19b: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.
029 78/19c: (A78/10): “And the heavens (plural and wrong*) shall be opened as if they were doors.” But is this meant literally or figuratively? – in the last case you get: “The heavens’ mysteries will be opened to man’s understanding.” There is quite a difference between these two. The language in the Quran sometimes seems “clear as ink”.
030 78/21: "Truly - - -". See f. ex. 61/4a above.
031 78/22a: "For the transgressors a place of destination - - -". If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth - which it too often does not do.
032 78/22b: "- - - the transgressors - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative and repulse inducing names for non-Muslims.
033 78/22c: "- - - transgressors - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses this and related words, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral cod, partly unethical ethical code, partly unjust judicial code, etc., and when it is used in religious connection, it means anyone resisting or disagreeing with the Quran and Islam.
034 78/23: (A12): “They (sinners*) will dwell therein (Hell*) for ages.” This is a not too well known, but deep enigma in Islam: The Quran is unclear about if you are to stay in Hell forever, or only for a limited time – a kind of long time Purgatory simply. Many places the book says clearly and unmistakably that it is forever. Other places it uses words that indicate a limited time – perhaps a long time, but a limited time, or that Allah can do something at least for Muslims in Hell (see f.x. 6/128c, 11/107b, and 43/74d). In this case the Arab word that is used, “huqb” or “hiqbah” (remember that some of the letters have to be guessed) have vague meanings as for how long time, but definitely not “for ever”. Also some Hadiths clearly indicate that Hell may be is not forever. (And 11/108a may indicate that also Paradise is not quite forever). Clear?
035 78/24a: "Nothing cool shall they taste therein - - -". Also in Hell (and in Paradise) you need food.
036 78/24b: "Nothing cool shall they taste therein - - -". Contradicted by at least one verse in the Quran telling about icy - too cold - drinks in Hell (78/25).
037 78/26: "(Hell is*) A fitting recompense (for them) (sinners*)". Wrong. There is no reasonable correspondence between the sins of a normal sinner, and the horrible and sadistic punishment in Hell.
038 78/28: “- - - our (Allah's*) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.
039 78/29: "And all things have We (Allah*) preserved on record". Why does a claimed omniscient and predestining god need a record?
040 78/30a: "So taste ye (non-Muslims*) (the fruits of your deeds) - - -". Is it in any way fair for a claimed good and benevolent god to punish for deeds he himself has predestined and thus forced the person to do? (We are aware of the Islamic claim that man has free - or partly free - will, but that is not possible even for an omniscient and omnipotent god to combine with full predestination unmistakably stated many places in the Quran - that claim simply is not true).
041 78/30b: "- - - no increase (in your good marks in Heaven*) shall We (Allah*) grant you (non-Muslims*), except in Punishment". Contradicting points in the Quran stating that good deeds shall get added "marks", whereas bad deeds shall count only for what they are.
042 78/30c: "- - - no increase (in your good marks in Heaven*) shall We (Allah*) grant you (non-Muslims*) - - -". Allah can grant nothing, unless he exists and is something supernatural.
043 78/30d: "- - - no increase (in your good marks in Heaven*) shall We (Allah*) grant you (non-Muslims*), except in Punishment". See 3/77b above.
044 78/31a: "Verily - - -". See f. x. 2/2b and 61/4a above.
045 78/31b: "Verily, for the Righteous there (in Paradise*) will be a fulfillment of (the Heart's) desires - - -". Is this really fulfillment of the heart's desires of Muslims?? - good food, good things to drink, good cloths, a nice climate, a nice and peaceful place to live, no work - and plenty of sex for the men? Is that all? Nothing to do and nothing to do for the mind, f. x.? Primitive dreams. A primitive and in a short time a very boring paradise. And now we talk about the men, for whom Islam and its paradise both are made to measure. We have not even mentioned the women and how life in Paradise must be for them.
046 78/31c: "- - - the Righteous - - -". Muslims.
047 78/31d: "- - - Righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
048 78/31e: "- - - fulfillment (in Paradise) of (the Heart's) desire". The Quran tells about lots of earthly luxury + for men plenty of sex (little for women). Personally I have fantasy enough to have a number of other desires in my heart/brain than good food, non-alcoholic wine, silk cloths, etc. - desires not satisfied in Islam's paradise, at least not according to the description in the Quran.
049 78/31-36: Like 76/14-21 above, but without the two extra words.
050 78/32: "Gardens enclosed - - -". The Quran's and Islam's Paradise - see 10/9f above.
051 78/33: "Companions of Equal Age" - the famous houris. As mentioned, sex is not named in Paradise in the Quran, bur it all the same is a very essential part - - - for the men. In all the Quran, in all the many Hadiths, in all Islamic literature, we have not seen one single word about how it feels for the houris to be sex toys for rough, uneducated, primitive warriors. And not one word about how it is for the wives to share their husbands with lots of likely much more beautiful women. Not one word.
Also you do not find the houris in the Bible and in Yahweh's paradise (the houris is an idea "borrowed" from the Persian religion). On the contrary: There you will be like the angels (Mark 12/25), and angels are not bent on sex. One more of the at least 200% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.
052 78/34: "And a Cup full (to the Brim)". Indicated: Of wine (though some Muslim scholars try to put something more spiritual into it) - alcohol and sex were "the two delightful things" in old Arabia.
053 78/36a: "(Paradise is*) Recompense from thy Lord (Allah*) - - -". Only if the Quran on this point tells the full truth and only the truth - neither the existence of Allah nor of his paradise are proved - - - and the Quran is proved wrong on impossibly and unbelievably many points.
054 78/36b: "- - - (Paradise is*) a Gift (amply) sufficient - - -". See 78/31b above.
055 78/37a: "(Paradise is a gift from) the Lord (Allah*) - - -". Similar often claimed, never proved - - - and it is a normal claim for most religions, Islam included.
056 78/37b: "- - -(Allah is*) the Lord of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the master of that, not Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
057 78/37c: “- - - heavens - - -.” Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.
058 78/37d: "(Allah) Most Gracious - - -". See 1/1a and see if you agree. That nice words are used, does not necessarily mean they are true - and especially so in a book so full of mistakes and so "colored" like the Quran.
059 78/37e: "- - - none shall have the power to argue with Him (Allah*)". Power he in case never clearly have shown - not once in 1400 years.
060 78/37f: "- - - none shall have the power to argue with Him (Allah*)". Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the most powerful, not Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
061 78/38a: "That Day shall the Spirit and the angels stand forth - - -". The Day of Doom.
062 78/38b: "That Day shall the Spirit and the angels stand forth - - -". It is unclear what the Spirit her is. You will find it translated as the souls (of the people), but more common it to believe it is the Holy Spirit from the Bible (it is mentioned a very few times in the Quran). Some go one step further and say that it must be the angel Gabriel, as he is the Holy Spirit. This is a claim - as always from Islam not proved - you often meet from Muslims, at least from lower educated ones. Our short comment is that no-one who really has read the Bible, would ever get such an idea - not unless he had decided if before he started reading and skipped reading what did not fit his idea. How could f.x. an angel split (parts of) himself in 12 at Pentecost (Acts 2/3-4)?
063 78/38c: (YA5911): "Some(!*) Commentators understand by 'the Spirit' the angel Gabriel, as he is charged specially with bringing Messages to human prophets". An interesting piece of information, as this is not from the Bible, and arch angel Gabriel also hardly is mentioned as a messenger boy in connection with biblical prophets. (But the claim of course makes Muhammad look like a prophet at this point as he claimed he god his messages via Gabriel.)
064 78/38d: "(Allah) Most Gracious - - -". See 1/1a and see if you agree. That nice words are used, does not necessarily mean they are true - and especially so in a book so full of mistakes and so "colored" like the Quran.
065 78/38e: "- - - he (Allah*) will say what is right". If he exists and is a major god, this may be correct. If he does not exist, and not to mention if he exists, but is from the dark forces like parts of the Quran and parts of its moral code may indicate, it is wrong.
066 78/38f: "- - - right". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
067 78/39a: "That Day - - -". The Day of Doom.
068 78/39b: "That Day will be a sure Reality - - -". Wrong. With so much wrong in the Quran, it is no sure reality that there will come a day of doom like the one the Quran claims. A last day for humanity, yes. That kind of Day of Doom, not sure.
069 78/39c: "- - - sure - - -". See f. ex. 2/2b and 61/4a above.
070 78/39d: "- - - Reality - - -". See f. x. 2/2b and 61/4a above.
071 78/39e: "- - - let him (Muslim*) take a (straight) Return to his Lord (Allah*)!" This is not possible unless Allah really exists. On the other hand if Allah exists, it is possible no matter whether he is a god or only something from the dark side posing as a god.
072 78/40a: "Verily - - -". See f. ex. 61/4a above.
073 78/40b: "- - - We (Allah*) have warned you of a Penalty near - - -". See 3/77b above.
**074 78/40c: (YA5914): Is Judgment very near? Yes. There are three stages of Judgment. (1) Many of our sins and wrongdoings find their penalty in this life. It may not be an open and striking event, but it corrodes the soul and conscience all the time. Let us therefore turn back to Allah and ask for forgiveness. (2) Where the Penalty is not actually perceived in this life, Death is considered the Lesser Judgment for each individual soul. - - - Death may come to anyone at any time, and we must be ready for it. (3)Then there is the final Judgment, when the whole of the present order passes away - - -". An interesting fact here is that this is not a clear part of the Quran - the Lesser Penalty is nowhere clearly mentioned in the book.
Also see (YA5822) under 75/22c above - a detail is interestingly different: Here death is the Lesser Judgment, there it is some pain after death which is that judgment.
075 78/40d: "- - - the Day - - -". The Day of Doom.
076 78/40e: "- - - (the Deeds) which his (a person*) has sent forth - - -". The good and bad deeds you have done in this life, and from which you according to the Quran will be judged at the Day of Doom.
077 78/40f: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.
Surah 78: Sub-total: 77 + 19.991 = 20.068 comments.
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