1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 62 -- AL-JUMU'AH (Friday)
20 June 2012
Revelation: Medina, 622-625 AD.
(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)
The quotes and comments
001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.
002 62/1a: “Whatever is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth, doth declare the Praises and Glory of Allah - - -”. Absolutely anything which exists have a mind able to praise Allah? Animism - a hallmark of primitive pagan religions.
003 62/1b: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.
004 62/1c: "- - - the Praises and Glory of Allah - - -". Read 1/1a above - does he deserve it?
005 62/1d: "- - - (Allah*) the Sovereign, the Holy One - - -". This only may be true is he exists and in addition is a god, none of which is ever proved.
006 62/1e: "- - - (Allah*) the Sovereign, the Holy One - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the sovereign - and holy - god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
007 62/1f: "(Allah*) the Exalted in Might - - -". He in case never unmistakably has shown his might.
008 62/1g: “(Allah*) - - - the Wise - - -*)”. Wrong if the Quran is representative for his wisdom.
009 62/2a: “It is He (Allah*) Who has sent (Muhammad*)”. It is difficult to believe that an omniscient god sent a messenger with a message containing so much wrong, and a messenger taking so good care of himself. It simply is not correct. No omniscient god would do so.
##010 62/2b: “It is He (Allah*) Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a Messenger - - - “. All Muslim literature say Muhammad was an-alphabetic, and use that for a proof for his inability to make up the Quran - not mentioning that many a good teller of tales in the old times was an-alphabetic. But there also are two other possible meanings of this verse: That his audience were unlettered persons ("- - - amongst the Unlettered - - -"), or that they were persons without a holy book.
(In just this case the sentence instead may mean the people without a holy book).
*As for Muhammad's inability to read: The statement is questioned: A man of good and not poor family not knowing how to read and write? A rich widow marrying an an-alphabetic, knowing he was to run her business? An intelligent businessman with admission to learned men, with a drive for power, not learning how to read and write? It is not likely - but there are no neutral sources about Muhammad from that time. It will never be possible to find out for sure, one way or the other. There also at least one place is mentioned that Muhammad himself wrote parts of the Hudaybiyah treaty in 628 AD. Hadiths also tell that on his dying bed he wanted to write something, and that the Muslims around him later regretted they had not let him do so.
Contradicted, but not proved wrong by the laws of probability and by Hadiths. Well, actually Hadiths prove he knew how to write as mentioned, but Hadiths is even more unreliable than the Quran, so that proof alone is not reliable enough to make a final judgment.
But also see 62/2c just below - may be Muhammad is not the main person in this verse.
**011 62/2c: “It is He (Allah*) Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a Messenger - - - “. See 62/2b just above - may be Muhammad is not the prime subject here. It actually is likely it here is meant the common people in the area. They were unlettered in the meaning that many - quite likely a majority - did not know how to read and write (beware here that Muhammad did not belong to the common people - his tribe belonged to the ruling classes). And they were unlettered also in the meaning that they of the old did not have a holy book. Which Muhammad felt slightly humiliating.
**012 62/2d: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a above.
**013 62/2e: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
**014 62/2f: “It is He (Allah*) Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a Messenger from among themselves - - - “. Muhammad made much out of his claim that he was from among his own people like all other prophets, and used the claimed fact that all prophets were from among their own people - according the Quran, not in reality - as a "proof" or at least an indication for that he was a real prophet. (The claim was wrong, though, as some of the Biblical prophets did not work among their own people - Abraham and Lot both were from what is now Iraq, but worked in Canaan (now Israel), Joseph was from what is now Israel, but worked in Egypt, Moses was a native of Egypt, but worked 40 years in Midian in what likely is now Arabia, the Jew Jonah worked in Nineveh (the capital of Assyria), to mention some of the Quran's prophets.
015 62/2g: “- - - His (Allah’s*) Signs - - -.” There are no signs clearly from Allah neither in the Quran, nor any other place. See 2/39b and 2/99 above.
**016 62/2h: “(Muhammad was to*) instruct them (the Unlettered Arabs*) in Scripture - - -” To instruct them in scripture, he hardly could be an an-alphabetic himself, but that aside: See 40/75 and 41/12.
**017 62/2i: “(Muhammad was to*) instruct them (the Unlettered Arabs*) in Scripture and Wisdom - - -”. There is not much wisdom in a book full of mistakes, contradictions, etc., and with a partly immoral moral code like the Quran.
018 62/2j: "- - - they (the Arabs*) were in manifest error". Were they in less error afterwards? Are they in less error today? That will depend on if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth - and if Allah exists and is a god. Read the Quran - skip the glorious words and the loose claims, and read the realities and judge for yourself.
019 62/2k: "- - - manifest - - -". See 2/2b above.
020 62/2l: "- - - error - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
###021 62/2m: (A62/1) "The designation of the Prophet (Muhammad') as a man 'from among themselves' is meant, in this context, to stress the fact that he, too, was unlettered (ummi) in the primary sense (= had not learnt to read and write - a claim science is skeptical to*) of this word, and could not, therefore, have 'invented' the message of the Quran or 'derived' its ideas from earlier scriptures". This is wrong at least to the 2. power and dishonesty at least to the 3. There is no connection between knowing how to read and write, and the ability to make up tales. Tellers of tales made up good stories, legends, fairy tales, etc., etc., for perhaps a million years before writing was even invented. Similar goes for the claim that as he could not read, he could not have got his "information" and ideas from the Bible, but has to have got it directly from Allah. You do not have to be able to read yourself to get information about religions and other things - a lot of what anybody even today get of information, is verbal. And this was even more so the case in the old times when telling of tales, histories, legends, fairy tales, etc. was a popular pastime in long evenings - in Arabia like in most primitive cultures. The argument and the claim is even more stupid as the tales in the Quran mostly are not even from the Bible, but from tales and legends and folklore (that is why they are different from the Bible - not falsifications of the Bible like Muhammad claimed, but the use of verbal tales based on, but different from the Bible).
The mildest word possible to use for claims and arguments used here - and often used by Muslims - is rubbish. This even more so as the facts we have pointed to here, are so well known, that there is no chance at all for that Muslim scholars do not know them, and all the same they use the claims and arguments - - - and uneducated or lower intelligent (or wishful) believers even believe them!
The only thing use of such claims and "arguments" prove, is that Muslims have no real arguments. If they had had, they would not have to use stupidity like this for "proofs".
022 62/3a: "- - - He (Allah^*) is Exalted in Might - - -". He in case never unmistakably has shown his might.
023 62/3b: “- - - (Allah is*) Wise - - -”. Not if he made the Quran. Also see 13/1g + 40/75 above.
024 62/4a: (A62/3): “Such is the bounty of Allah, which He bestows on whom He will - - -.” Or: “He grants it to anyone who is willing (to receive it).” These two interpretations are equivalent compared to the Arab text. Clear speech? – the meanings so definitely are different. And these variants naturally also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has/have more than one meaning. Allah (?) really uses a clear language.
025 62/4b: "- - - Allah is the Lord of the highest bounty". Easy to claim, but never proved. And also it is contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the highest lord, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
026 62/4c: "- - - the highest bounty". Paradise.
027 62/5a: "The similitude of those (Jews*) who were charged with the (obligations of the) Mosaic Law, but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not". And if the Quran is not from a god, is it a good similitude to compare Muslims with a man carrying a heavy burden of stones, believing he is carrying gold because someone has painted them golden and made him believe and buy it at a high price? - or a horrible price if there somewhere is a real god Islam is prohibiting him to look for.
028 62/5b: "The similitude of those (Jews*) who were charged with the (obligations of the) Mosaic Law, but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not". A much better story for Muhammad to tell than to admit the plain truth: The real reason was that most Jews saw something was very wrong in Muhammad's tales.
029 62/5c: "- - - the Mosaic Law - - -". The laws of Moses in the Bible - - - and in connection to the claimed "Mother Book" in heaven a historical anomaly when it was written, if man has the slightest grain of free will.
030 62/5d: "- - - (the Jews*) who subsequently failed in those (obligations (to keep the Mosaic a pure and clean Islam according to Muhammad*)) - - -". Here once more is Muhammad's claim that the Bible is falsified. The claim is thoroughly proved wrong by science and even more so by Islam, both being unable to find one single falsified relevant manuscript among the many thousands which exist. Not one - and the best proof for this, is Islam's silence on this point.
031 62/5e: "Evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
032 62/5f: “Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of Allah - - -”. What does it mean that invalid signs are claimed falsified? Especially in a book with so many mistakes?
033 62/5g: “- - - the Signs of Allah - - -.” See 2/39b and 2/99 above.
034 62/5h: "- - - Allah guides not - - -". Allah can guide nobody unless he exists - and if he uses the Quran with all its errors, what is the value of such guiding?.
035 62/5i: "- - - Allah guides not people who do wrong". Sizable parts of the Quran’s moral code are obviously wrong - easy to see for anyone who is not indoctrinated that the immoral parts are good moral - easy to see if you compare it to the "gold standard": "Do against others like you want others do against you". The same goes for some parts of the sharia laws. Are then Muslims living according to the mentioned parts, not guided by a god?
036 62/5j: "- - - people who do wrong". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.
037 62/5k: "- - - do wrong". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
038 62/6a: "- - - Judaism - - -". A historical anomaly. We may mention that the name derives from the name Judah, one of the 12 sons of the Jewish patriarch Jacob (Jacob was renamed Israel by Yahweh according to the Bible (1.Mos. 32/28)). It became the name of the tribe descending from him, and later the name of the southern country of the Jews (the northern one was called Israel), and finally the name Jews derives from it).
039 62/6b: "(Jews)! If ye think ye are friends to Allah - - -". There hardly is a Jew thinking he is a friend to Allah - they think, or hope, they are friend to Yahweh - in spite of Muhammad's repeated, but as normal for him never proved, claims, the two are not the same god.
###040 62/6c: “- - - then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!” An impossible demand for pious Jews and Christians: For one thing life has its values for everybody. More essential for them: Life is a gift from Yahweh/God – to wish to end it is to diminish a gift from Him. Most serious: To willfully end your own life, is a sin so grave that it automatically sends you to Hell.
Any god had known this – Muhammad obviously not. Then who made the Quran?
In a way worse: Muslim scholars today and for centuries have known the fact that seeking your own death is such a grave sin in Christianity, that it sends you to Hell. But they never mention it, in spite of using this argument. Dishonesty.
The under laying claim contradicted by religious, historical and psychological facts.
041 62/7a: "But never will they (Jews*) express their desire (for Death) - - -". See 62/6b just above.
042 62/7b: "But never will they (Jews*) express their desire (for Death), because of the (deeds) their (Jews, Christians*) hands have sent before them (bad deeds they have done*)!" Muhammad either believes or pretends to believe in his wrong presumption - but see 62/6b above. Anyhow it is psychologically a good argument for inducing distaste for them in his followers.
043 62/7c: "- - - the (deeds) their (here Jews*) hands have sent before them - - -". This is a Muslim expression for (the balance of) your good and bad deeds on this earth which the god will judge you from when he decides whether to send you to Heaven or Hell at the Day of Doom. The underlying meaning in just this case is that the Jews are so big sinners, that they will end in Hell.
044 62/7d: "And Allah knows well those who do wrong". The hard fact: Not unless he exists and is something supernatural.
045 62/7e: "- - - do wrong". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
046 62/8a: "The Death from which ye (Jews*) will flee will truly overtake you - - -". According to the Quran it is not possible to make your death come later than what Allah has predestined. His predestination is absolute, and nothing and nobody can change it.
047 62/8b: "- - truly - - -". See 2/2b above.
048 62/8c: “- - - ye will be sent back - - -”. At the day of Doom.
049 62/8d: “- - - ye will be sent back to the Knower of things - - -”. As for “the Knower“: See 13/1g + 40/75 above. Also: This claim only may be true if Allah really exists and is a major god.
050 62/8e: "- - - the Knower of things secret and open - - -". = Allah, but this claim is wrong if he made the Quran - the maker of that book knew little or nothing of what at that time was secret and made huge lots of mistakes when postulating f. ex. scientific facts - facts any omniscient god had known. Then who made the Quran?
051 62/8f: "- - - the Knower of things secret and open - - -". See 2/233h above.
052 62/8g: "- - - the Knower of things secret and open - - -". Not if he made the Quran.
053 62/8h: "- - - (the truth - - -) - - -". See 2/2b, 13/1g and 40/45 above.
054 62/9a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". Muslims.
055 62/9b: "When the call is proclaimed to prayer on Friday - - - hasten earnestly to the Remembrance of Allah, and leave off business (and traffic) - - -". The Friday afternoon prayer is the most significant prayer in Islam. But note that unlike many religions, Islam does not have a day of rest during the week. Every day of the week is a workday, except during the prayer. You may work till the prayer starts, and start working again when the prayer is finished. (Seemingly this gives Muslims an edge in production. On the other hand science has found that a day of rest now and then benefits both body and soul and makes one able to work more efficient and steady in between. We have never seen any study studying the plusses and minuses of these two systems, and which one comes out ahead in overall efficiency and production. Also see 62/10 below.
As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not, many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)
###056 62/9c: "- - - prayer - - -". What is the idea with and the effect of prayers in Islam. The Quran MANY places states that Allah predestines absolutely everything, and he predestines it according to his Plan, which nobody and nothing can change. And he predestines it long time before it is going to happen - he f.x. according to Hadiths predestines whether you are going to end in Hell or Heaven already when you are a 4 months old fetus = 5 months before you are born. Now the Quran tells that man also has free will - a necessary claim not to make Allah very unjust when he sends a person to Hell for sins (or for that case rewards him for good deeds) - but those are two things which are impossible even for an omniscient and omnipotent god to combine. Give man even the slightest degree of free will, and the laws of chaos inexorably finish off predestination - the god can make things happen by adjusting this and that, but the moment man gets the possibility to change his mind once more about something, full predestination is gone - and the same is full precognition. Even Islam admits that full predestination is impossible to combine with free will of man (some claim that partly free will is possible, but that is wrong - the laws of chaos is very clear on that point; the so-called "butterfly effect" kicks in): We quote (A6/141 - comment to verse 6/149): “In other words, the real relationship between Allah’s knowledge of the future (and, therefore, the ineluctably of what is to happen in the future) on one side, and man’s free will, on the other – two propositions which, on the face of it, seem to contradict one another – is beyond man’s comprehension; but since both are postulated by Allah, both must be true". But here Islam is leaving religion, and entering pure mysticism. In the non-material realms of life there are things impossible even for an omniscient and omnipotent god. Proofs for this in 6/149a above.
If there is complete predestination in Islam like the Quran states as absolute several places in the Quran, prayers can have no effect in this religion - everything is already decided and nothing can be changed in Allah’s long since predestined Plan. To claim the opposite just is mysticism, not religion.
057 62/10a: "And when the Prayer is finished, then may ye disperse through the land, and seek of the Bounty of Allah (= try to make money*) - - -". See 62/9b above.
058 62/10b: "- - - prayer - - -". See 62/9c above.
059 62/10c: "- - - celebrate the Praises of Allah - - -". This will be in vain if he does not exist and in addition is a god (not to mention the effect if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces, which a number of his(?) rules may indicate).
060 62/10d: "- - - celebrate the Praises of Allah - - - that ye (Muslims*) may prosper". There will be no such effect unless he exists and is something supernatural (not necessarily a god).
061 62/11a: "But when they (people*) see some bargain or some amusement, they disperse headlong to it, and leave thee (Muhammad*) standing". This may refer to once Muhammad was leading the prayer and making a speech, when a caravan arrived. His congregation melted away to meet the caravan to take part in the excitement and also hopeful to make good business. Muhammad was not pleased. (The incident also showed the real strength in his listeners’' interest in his speech and his religion).
062 62/11b: "But when they (people*) see some bargain or some amusement, they disperse headlong to it, and leave thee (Muhammad*) standing". A historical anomaly.
063 62/11c: "But when they (people*) see some bargain or some amusement, they disperse headlong to it, and leave thee (Muhammad*) standing". How could this reliably be written in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened? One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:
When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.
The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.
The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".
This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.
And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.
Also see 3/154e, 6/149a, 7/34a, 14/22b, and not least 27/22-26 above.
064 62/11d: "Say (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
065 62/11e: "The (blessing) from the Presence of Allah is better than any amusement or bargain". Definitely wrong if Allah does not exist or is not a (good) god, like the reality in and with the Quran indicates.
066 62/11f: "And Allah is the Nest to provide for all needs". A good slogan and a good claim - but as always in the Quran never clearly proved.
Surah 62: Sub-total: 66 + 18.760 = 18.826 comments.
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