1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 5 -- Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread)

Revelation: Medina, 632 AD (one of the very last ones; some verses belong to earlier period)

(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)


 

The quotes and comments

001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free, captives and slaves - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are more reliable. Glorifying words and claims anyone can use and disuse. When you read, read what was demanded, advised and done, and distrust the glorious words - judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 5/1a: "- - - ye who believe!" = Muslims - only Muslims believed according to the Quran.

003 5/1b: "Fulfill (all) obligations." On the face of it this is a good order. But remember here that one of the strongest obligations was - AND NB: IS - the duty to go to war for the religion and its leaders. (If you read modern Islamic literature meant for Muslims, you see this duty stressed again and again and again also for today and for the future - whereas similar literature meant for non-Muslims talks more about "the Religion of Peace", etc.)

004 5/1c: "Lawful unto you (Muslims*) (for food) - - -". The practical exceptions one normally run into, is the prohibition against meat from pig and blood (but also see 5/3a below). About the prohibition against meat from pig it is only explained that it is an abomination, but no-one knows why. There have been proposed these - and a few more - explanations:

The danger for trichinosis. A danger which is easy to guard against.

Pigs like to wallow in mud to cool down. This looks dirty. It may be a reaction against a "dirty" animal.

Pigs often eat food which could be eaten directly by humans. It thus is "expensive" meat. May be old leaders have found it too expensive and placed a taboo on it.

Meat and fat from pig are tasty and highly nourishing. It may in the really old times have been used for religious ceremonies and purposes, and may slowly have become sacred for normal use and then taboo. This in case partly is a parallel to what happened to horse meat in the north when the old Viking religion was ousted by Christianism - horse meat was the prized meat for the old religious ceremonies, and overnight became prohibited to eat - a prohibition which lasted nearly until modern times.

As for the taboo against food from blood, it may be connected to an old belief one meets some places, that life is in the blood, and one should not eat life.

There also are a number of other taboos, but meat from pig and blood are the two one most often meet in daily life when Muslims live in non-Muslim areas.

We may also mention a bad kind of "fun" a few non-Muslims sometimes indulge in: To cheat Muslims (and Jews - and perhaps also Hindus) into eating forbidden food - f.x. by solemnly, but wrongly telling that there is no such-and-such meat in those sausages. For one thing it is done in vain - f.x. a Muslim who eats meat from pig, does not sin if he honestly believes he is eating something which is not forbidden (or if he is forced to do it or have to eat it from sheer hunger and has nothing else to eat). This kind of "fun" thus tells nothing about the victim, but a lot about the "fun"-maker. Besides there is the fact that most Muslims are as human as anybody else, and to try to insult his/her feelings in this way, just is a case of childish intellectual capacity and of bad taste.

005 5/1d: "Fulfill (all) obligations." This is the general rule in the sharia laws. But see the points about f.x. al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), deceiving/betrayal, and breaking of promises/word/oaths.

##006 5/1e: (A5/2): “Lawful (as food*) for you (Muslims*) are all four-footed animals, with the exceptions named - - -“. But the literal meaning of Arab “bahimat al-an’am” is “four-footed cattle” or “beast of cattle”. But “cattle” is something very different to “all four-footed animals”. To add to the mystery Rezi and others say: “- - - all animals that resembles (domesticated) cattle insofar as it feeds on plants and is not a beast of prey.” (One essence of this is that Muslims theoretically cannot eat marine mammals – some (whales) are not 4-footed and most of them are beasts of prey (all except the dugong and its closest relatives). But we have not seen any prohibition about this.) The main essence of this verse is that no Arab scholar really is sure how to understand exactly what it means, but that they agree on that “four-footed cattle” is a tautology which must be wrong – one more case where the majority agrees on that some text in the Quran is wrong (there are a few like this – see separate small chapter in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran"). And when not even the greatest Muslims scholars understand what the text really means, it is not “a clear and easily understood language”.

It must be added to the defense of the Muslims scholars who try to “adjust” the meaning of this verse, that the Quran clearly permits hunting, and often they did go hunting for food - - - and you do not go hunting for cattle. It thus is very clear that they are right when they say this tautology is wrong.

007 5/1f: “Lawful (as food*) for you (Muslims*) are all four-footed animals, with the exceptions named: but animals of the chase are forbidden while ye are in the Sacred Precincts or in pilgrim grab: for Allah command according to his Will and Plan". Background for the sharia laws.

008 5/1g: "- - - but animals of the chase are forbidden while ye are in the Sacred Precincts or in pilgrim grab: for Allah command according to his Will and Plan". There is nothing similar in the Bible. In itself it only is an indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, but as Allah(?) strengthens the prohibition by stressing that it is according to his will and Plan, whereas Yahweh does not care enough to even mention it, it becomes one of the many proofs for that the two are not the same god.

009 5/1h: "- - - the Sacred Precincts - - -." Around the mosque Kabah in Mecca.

010 5/1i: "- - - animals of the chase is forbidden while ye (Muslims*) are in - - - pilgrim garb - - -". Hunting and the use of game is forbidden when a Muslim is in the special pilgrim clothes (ihram).

011 5/1j: "- - - Allah doth command according to His Will and Plan". Here the predestination surfaces again: Allah decides everything, and does so according to his Plan where everything of the future is planned, and not possible to change.

012 5/2a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims - only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

013 5/2b: "Violate not the sanctity of the Symbols of Allah, nor the Sacred Month, nor of the animals brought for sacrifice, nor the garlands that mark out such animals, nor the people going to the Sacred House, seeking of the bounty and good pleasure of their Lord. But when ye are clear of the Sacred Precincts and of pilgrim garbs, ye may hunt and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part)". Some of the background for the sharia laws.

014 5/2c: "- - - Sacred Months - - -". A tradition - one of many - taken over from the old Pagan times in Arabia. No other of the large religions have such holy months - funny how many things the pagan old Arabs had correct, but nobody else, according to Allah. There were 4 such months (number 1, 7, 11, 12), when f.x. fighting and war was not permitted - but the Muslims broke it at least once. Muhammad afterwards - as normal - got a "revelation" which sanctified the breaking. By the way: Hajj - pilgrimage - is in month number 12, but beware that the Muslim year is a little - ca. 11 days - shorter than the natural year, and thus it wanders along the normal year over a period of ca. 33 years. 100 normal years = ca. 103 Muslim years. (As the expression here is in singular, the book just here may indicate the month of pilgrimage only.)

015 5/2d: "- - - Sacred Month/Months - - -". An Arabism taken over from the old pagan Arab religion. Also see 4/13d above.

016 5/2e: "- - - Sacred Months - - -". This is not from the Bible - there is nothing similar there.

017 5/2f: "- - - Sacred Months - - -". One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - the months are sacred for Allah, but to Yahweh not interesting enough to even mention.

018 5/2g: "- - - Sacred House - - -". The mosque Kabah in Mecca (you will also find this name written Makkah and once in a seldom while Bakkah.)

019 5/2h: "- - - Sacred House - - -". The Bible never mentions a sacred place in Arabia, not even in connection with Moses who visited the Arabian Peninsula according to the Bible (Midian/Madyan). (That Abraham visited Arabia - and Mecca - just is wishful thinking or psychological strategy on behalf of Muhammad. The Bible gives the routes Abraham travelled, and he never was even close to that peninsula. We also may mention that the Bible tells about what Abraham built, and he never built anything but a few altars made from not chiseled natural stone - not even a small chapel anywhere. Even the grave of his wife Sarah was a cave, not something built. You find all this in 1. Mos. f.x. 12/7, 12/8, 12/18. These are facts Muslims never mention, even though at least their scholars know it - it is not possible to go hunting in the Bible for tit-bits they can cherry-pick, without also seeing the information which tells that the Quran is wrong on many points.)

020 5/2i: "- - - Sacred House - - -". May be the strongest of all Arabisms. There is not one chance that a god would not mention his most sacred place, and all the same this originally old pagan temple in Arabia became a most holy place.

#021 5/2j: "- - - Sacred House - - -". The mosque Kabah in Mecca is one of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. There is not one chance that a god had not mentioned his most sacred place and the duties and benefits connected to it, to his strongly believing followers relatively near by - f.x. Abraham and Moses or a powerful king like David, who could have tried to conquer the area to get it into his country.

022 5/2k: "- - - the Sacred Precincts - - -." The holy area in connection to the Kabah mosque in Mecca.

023 5/2l: "- - - shutting you (Muslims*) out of the Sacred Mosque - - -". Muhammad and his Muslims had to flee from Mecca in 622 AD, and for some 5 years they were shut out from the town and the Kabah mosque.

024 5/2m: "- - - Sacred Mosque - - -". The mosque Kabah in Mecca (you will also find the name Mecca written Makkah and once in a seldom while Bakkah.)

025 5/2n: "- - - let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque - - -". From the year 622 AD, when they fled Mecca, Muslims were shut out from the town and the mosque Kabah - the Sacred Mosque - until Muhammad grew strong enough to force his way back (and take over Mecca in 630 AD).

026 5/2o: "- - - righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with the book's own partly immoral moral code.

027 5/3a: “Forbidden to you (Muslims*) (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows; that is impiety." Part of the background for the sharia laws.

028 5/3b: “Forbidden to you (Muslims*) (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine - - -.” This is abrogated by Sunna (Hadith) by enlarging the list of prohibition, as Muhammad made a very clear rule during the siege of Khaybar in 628 AD: Meat of donkey is forever forbidden to eat. Remember: Also to make a rule of law stricter is an abrogation – the god had to try and fail to find the best laws. Or he forgot or changed his mind. That Sunna abrogates the Quran, is not the normal rule, but far from unheard of (veils for women are f.x. not introduced in the Quran – but is so in some Hadiths). A more special case here is that this verse was abrogated (by being made stricter) before it was released in 632 AD. The main rule is that the youngest verse abrogates the older one(s), but after a hard debate in the old times Islam agreed on that in some cases the older one can abrogate the younger - - - and as far as we have been able to find out, the prohibition against eating donkey meat still stands (if we are wrong here, we would appreciate very much to be corrected). Also see 6/145a+b below.

One small point here: Some ones think it is fun or that they make a point by cheating Muslims - or Jews - to eat forbidden food, f.x. meat from pig. This just is to be impolite and unfriendly - and for no reason, as if they are cheated or forced to eat it, it is no sin neither for Muslims, nor for Jews.

029 5/3c: "This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your (Muhammad's/Muslims'*) religion - - -". Notice how this and the next sentence are inserted in a verse about food. You MANY places in the Quran find such sudden changes of subjects, and some places even stuff not relevant for that place in the text is inserted into totally different contexts - like here. The Quran has very little to do with good literature in spite of Muslims' claims about the opposite - like so often in Islam, the claims are not true.

030 5/3d: "This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your (Muhammad's/Muslims'*) religion - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

031 5/3e: "This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your (Muhammad's/Muslims'*) religion - - -". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

032 5/3f: "- - - those who reject faith - - -". = Non-Muslims - only Muslims have faith according to the Quran. One of Muhammad's negative names for non-Muslims.

033 5/3g: "- - - faith - - -". = Islam.

034 5/3h: "This day have I (Allah*) perfected your (Muslims'*) religion for you - - -". This sentence always fascinates us - was the religion not perfect earlier? And how could the religion be perfected - made better - without changing the claimed "Mother Book" which is claimed to be the unchangeable and timeless basis for Islam? How could Abraham be a perfect Muslim - or a Muslim at all - if the religion was not perfected until this day in 632 AD? Etc., etc.

035 5/3i: "This day have I (Allah*) perfected your (Muslims'*) religion for you - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

036 5/3j: "This day have I (Allah*) - - - chosen for you Islam as your religion". Did Muhammad preach Islam - first 12 years a peaceful religion, and then changed to a religion of war - for 23 years before Allah did chose Islam as the Muslims' religion?

037 5/3k: "This day have I (Allah*) - - - chosen for you Islam as your religion". A historical anomaly (earlier readers of the twin of the Quran, copied from the claimed "Mother Book" like the Quran is claimed to be, could not know which day or year*) - see 4/13d above.

038 5/3l: "But if anyone is forced by hunger, with no intention to transgression, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". One small point to be repeated here: Some ones think it is fun or that they make a point by cheating Muslims - or Jews - to eat forbidden food, f. ex. meat from pig. This just is to be impolite and unfriendly - and for no reason, as if they are cheated or forced to eat it, it is no sin neither for Muslims, nor for Jews.

039 5/3m: "But if anyone is forced by hunger, with no intention to transgression, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". Part of the basis for the sharia laws.

040 5/3n: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

041 5/4: "They (people*) ask thee (Muhammad*) what is lawful to them (as food). Say: Lawful unto you are (all) things good and pure: and what ye have taught your trained hunting animals (to catch) in manner directed to you by Allah: eat what they catch for you, but pronounce the name of Allah over it - - -". One of the points behind the sharia laws.

042 5/5a: "This day are (all) things good and pure to them (Muslims*) made lawful unto you (Muslims*). The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you (Muslims*) in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time - when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues". Parts of the basis for the sharia laws.

043 5/5b: "This day are (all) things good and pure to them (Muslims*) made lawful unto you (Muslims*)". A historical anomaly (earlier readers of the twin of the Quran, copied from the claimed "Mother Book" like the Quran is claimed to be, could not know which day or year*) - see 4/13d above.

044 5/5c: "The food of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians*) is lawful unto you (Muslims*) - - -". One small point here: You will meet Muslims claiming that the restrictive food laws of Moses really are binding also for Christians as they are not explicit cancelled in the Gospels. We quote MA: "The Massage of the Quran", comment 14 to surah 5: "- - - there is no statement whatsoever in the Gospels to the effect that these prohibitions were cancelled by Jesus". No, but for one thing the Gospels only make up a little better than 40% of the NT, and it is clear in the other parts of the NT that the strict Jewish food laws only are for Jews, not for Christians, and for another it is clear that Jesus did not accept everything in those laws - see f.x. his reaction when some ones scolded his disciples for harvesting grains and eating them during the Sabbath. And not least: Even the Quran tells that Jesus changed some of the Jewish laws (3/50a above).

045 5/5d: "- - - the People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". = Jews, Christians and Sabeans - the Sabeans play nearly no role in the Quran, and it even is unclear who they were, see 2/62f above.

046 5/5e: "- - - the People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.<

047 5/5f: “(Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book”. Contradicts – and abrogates:

2/221: “Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters (is this word in the Arab text?)), until they believe”. Then at least Christian women should not be accepted according to 2/221, as at least Catholics use religious icons, etc. If the word “idolaters” are not in the Arab text (text in ( ) sometimes is explanation, sometimes specification – and sometime a “help” to the text to sound more correct) this (5/5c) goes for all Christian and Jewish women.

It also is worth mentioning that women not at all can marry non-Muslims, and if their Muslim husbands leave Islam, the marriage automatically is terminated even if the two refuse this. "No compulsion in religion"?

048 5/5g: "- - - believers - - -". Muslims.

049 5/5h: “(Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the (Jews and Christians*) - - -.” This is told to men – women are too insignificant for such debates. But it concerns women. Muslim men can marry women who are Jews, Christians (though the Quran other places seems to be against it unless they become Muslims) or Muslims, but not Pagan ones (though there is no prohibition for having them as concubines or similar). Muslim women can marry only Muslim men – the prohibition is so strict that if a woman marries a non-Muslim, or her Muslim husband converts to another religion, her marriage is invalid and nullified. "No compulsion in religion".

050 5/5i: "- - - the Book, revealed before your (Muhammad's*) time". The Jewish scriptures and the Bible.

051 5/5j: "- - - dower - - -". Dower is a necessary part of the Muslim wedding ceremony - no dower = no valid marriage. The dower does not have to be something big, though - if the man is poor, it can be more or less a token gift. But small or big the dower is the woman's personal property.

052 5/k: "- - - dower - - -". Dower is a necessary part of the Muslim wedding ceremony - no dower = no valid marriage. This means that this rule is contradicted by the Bible.</>

053 5/5l: "- - - dower - - -". There is no demand for dower in the NT - one more contradiction to the Bible. And as dower is a must to Allah, but of no interest to Yahweh, thus is another difference so essential that it is clear Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

054 5/5m: "If anyone rejects Faith - - - in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost". Strongly contradicted by the Bible as far as Jews and Christians go. Not to mention that few if any Muslims living according to the militant lines of Islam, will qualify to Yahweh's paradise.(May be no Muslims at all, as they believe in another god - likely a made up pagan one just dressed up a little).

055 5/5m: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

056 5/5o: "- - - in the Hereafter he (non-Muslim*) will be in the ranks of those who have lost - - -". See 3/77b above.

057 5/6a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

058 5/6b: “When ye prepare for prayer, wash (face, hands, lower arms, feet till ankles, and rub your head*) - - - if you are in a state of impurity, bathe (in reality wash – Hadiths tell Muhammad used 3-4 liters of water for a “bath”, and that only means wash) your whole body. If - - - you have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand and earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands.” The rules for cleanliness did make the Muslims a somewhat cleaner people than many others, but that was a side effect, not the intention. The main thing was the formal, ceremonial cleanliness, not the physical cleanliness. And one normal source of becoming formally unclean, was – and is – women.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

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059 5/6c: “When ye prepare for prayer, wash (face, hands, lower arms, feet till ankles, and rub your head*) - - - if you are in a state of impurity, bathe (in reality wash – Hadiths tell Muhammad used 3-4 liters of water for a “bath”, and that only means wash) your whole body. If - - - you have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand and earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands.” The formal cleanliness was essential for Allah. This you do not find in the NT - Jesus even told that it was not what was outside a person which sullied him, but what came out of him - his words and deeds. Totally different points of view at least on outside cleanliness - another indication for that Yahweh and Allah were/are not the same god.

060 5/6d: "- - - have been in contact with women - - -". A polite expression for sex.

061 5/6e: "- - - (if*) ye find no water, then take for yourself clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands." As you see it was the formal cleanliness which counted, not the real. That said there is little doubt that the demand for formal cleanliness also influenced the view on real cleanliness). On this point the Muslims were more forward than at least the Christian of the old time, who many did not take physical cleanliness too serious. All the same the fact that formal cleanliness was essential for Allah and not for Yahweh, is one more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

062 5/6f: "Allah doth not want to place you in difficulty - - -". Perhaps not on after all minor points like cleanliness, but he demanded that you fought, suffered hardship, was crippled (never mentioned in the Quran) and died. You may call that difficulties, too.

063 5/7a: "And call in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you (Muslims*) - - -". There never in all history and prehistory was a documented case of a favor to anyone from Allah. Claims, yes - proved cases, no. Guess if Islam had told about it if it had happened!

064 5/7b: "- - - His Covenant, which He (Allah') ratified with you (Muslims*), when ye said: 'We hear and we obey'- - -". Once upon a time the Boers of South Africa made what they called a covenant with Yahweh/God. They promised that if Yahweh/God would help them, they would do so-and-so. What they over-looked was that a covenant must be agreed on by at least two parts; and as Yahweh/God was not an involved participant in an agreement about the case, they in reality only made promises, not a covenant. Is this something of the same? Another point: According to the Bible the god did not make any covenant with Ishmael and his descendants, only with Isaac and his line (1.Mos. 17/21). This even more so as in spite of Arabs' claims of being descendants of Ishmael, it is unlikely they are. For one thing and for what it is worth the Bible tells that Ishmael's descendants settled not in Arabia, but in vest Sinai "near the border of Egypt" (1. Mos. 25/18) where they became 12 tribes with "twelve tribal rulers" (1. Mos. 25/16) = the god's promise of making Ishmael's descendants mighty. But easier and more solid proved: Modern DNA analyses have shown that the Arabs not are and never were a pure "race". The original Arabs seems to have been people from here and there who settled in the desert something like 4ooo - 5ooo years ago, partly because the introduction of tamed camels around that time made life in the desert a real possibility. And this mixed group has been even much more mixed up through the times, partly by traders and others passing through on the caravan "highways" crossing Arabia and leaving off-springs now and then - remember that before Islam, "the two delightful things" in Arabia were sex and alcohol - and also Arab traders bringing home brides from abroad. But perhaps the biggest source for foreign blood to further mix up and dilute the claimed race, was import of slaves from all around, both long before Muhammad and far more later. All the girl and women slaves were definitely not imported just for decoration, and the "pure Arab blood" never was much more than an illusion - originally started by Ishmael or not. (And in addition: Even if Ishmael had settled in Arabia, there also lived many others - so even if this had been true, only a small percent - less than 0.01 percent (= if there at that time lived only 10ooo in all Arabia) - of the Arab DNA could have been from Ishmael already at that time, and it would have been far more diluted by now.)

There is no rational or scientific reason for believing in the claim that the Arabs are descendants of Ishmael and Abraham - on the contrary: What knowledge which exists, makes the claim highly unlikely, and even if there should be a connection, it in case is an extremely diluted one.

065 5/7c: "We hear and we obey". As the only one they could hear was Muhammad, the one they in reality could hear and obey, was Muhammad. Well and good if the Quran were 100% true and if everything Muhammad said in addition to the Quran were also 100% true. If not, the position of the leader, robber baron and later warlord Muhammad was extremely comfortable.

066 5/7d: "- - - fear Allah, for Allah knoweth well all the secrets of your (Muslims') hearts." The often used warning: Do not try to cheat, because Allah knows everything. (But also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below).

067 5/8a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

068 5/8b: (A5/19): “- - - and not let the hatred of others (non-Muslims*) to you (Muslims) make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice.” The alternative meaning is (translated from Swedish): “- - - the hatred against a people - - -.” And that is the directly opposite meaning: In the first case you are hated by one or more persons, in the second it is you who are hating, and not only a few persons, but “a people”. A clear and impossible to misunderstand language in the Quran?

069 5/8c: "- - - justice". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code and its partly unjust and immoral sharia law.

070 5/8d: "Be just - - -". See 5/8c just above.

#071 5/8e: "Be just, that (justice*) is next to Piety - - -". Compare this to NT, which says something like "Faith, Hope and Love - but strongest is Love". The same god? Believe so if you are able to. (And remember that this was written in Greek, which has two words for "love" - "eros" = the erotic or bodily love, and "agape" = the higher kind of love - the love between souls. This was written "agape".)

072 5/8f: "- - - fear Allah. For Allah is well acquainted with all that ye do". The carrot and the stick: Be good and be obedient and Allah will like you, be bad or disobedient and Allah will punish you. Efficient if the religion is a true one. Efficient for Muhammad and later leaders for keeping the people in line also if Islam is a made up religion. You meet similar sentences many places in the Quran.

073 5/8g: "- - - fear Allah. For Allah is well acquainted with all that ye do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

074 5/9a: "- - - those who believe - - -". = Muslims.

075 5/9b: "- - - deeds of righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

076 5/9c: "- - - hath Allah promised - - -". The thought provoking fact here is that there is not documented one single case in all history where Allah has kept a promise. Many claims, no proved case - just listen to the silence on this point from Islam. Islam had not been silent here if they had had even one single proved case.

077 5/9d: "- - - hath Allah promised forgiveness - - -". Allah cannot forgive unless he exists and in addition is a god.

078 5/9e: "- - - a great reward". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

079 5/9f: "- - - a great reward". True only if Allah exists, if he is behind what is told in the Quran, and if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth about this. And not least: Only if this paradise really exists. Nothing is ever proved - like always for central claims in the Quran.

080 5/10a: "Those who reject faith - - -". = Non-Muslims.

081 5/10b: “- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

082 5/10c: "- - - Companions of the Hell-fire". = They will go to Hell.

083 5/10d: "- - - Companions of the Hell-fire". See 3/77b above.

084 5/11a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

085 5/11b: "- - - the favors of Allah onto you - - -". A claim saying that Allah helped "the believers", but the claim is too vague to indicate what - perhaps during the early times in Mecca? Nothing is documented - as normal for Islam and the Quran just a claim. More essential: There is documented not one case of proved help from Allah to anyone - nowhere and throughout the times. (The best proof for this: If there had been even one proved case, Islam had broadcast it to say the least of it. There is no such broadcast.)

086 5/11c: "- - - Believers - - -". = Muslims.

087 5/11d: "And on Allah let the Believers put (all) their trust". A bit risky if Allah is a made up god - and remember here that a book of a quality like the Quran is not from a god. It is slander, insult and heresy to blame a god - not to mention an omniscient one - for such work.

088 5/12a: “Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel - - -.” Wrong. See 4/159a. The covenant was with Yahweh, not with Allah. (As the two teachings basically are very different, the two gods cannot have been just two names for the same god like the Quran claims - they were two different (if one or both existed) if the god was not a mentally ill one.)

089 5/12b: “Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel - - -.” A time anomaly - see 4/13d above.

090 5/12c: "- - - We appointed twelve captains among them - - -". Well, Yahweh in one case said that the tribe leaders should lead. But the splitting in 12 tribes was not built on this, but on the 12 sons of Jacob (or to be more exact: Levi's descendants became priests and were split on the other tribes in a way not reckoned as a separate tribe in some connections - though kept apart an counted separately mostly. Then remained 11 of Jacob's sons. But the descendants of Joseph were split in 2 tribes, as his two sons Ephraim and Manasseh each founded a tribe (called half-tribes) = 12 tribes all together if one wants to count this way.)

091 5/12d: "I (Allah*) am with you (the Jews*) - - -". The Bible claims it was Yahweh who was with them.

##092 5/12e: "I (Allah*) am with you (the Jews*): if ye (but)establish regular Prayers - - -". There is no demand, request or even mentioning of a fixed number of prayers of fixed times for prayers in the Bible. As this is so essential to Allah that it is one of the pillars of Islam, but of no interest at all for Yahweh - pray when there is a reason or when you feel for it - the 5 fixed prayers of the Quran is one of the absolute proofs for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

093 5/12f: "- - - Messengers - - -". The word "messenger" is not used as a title in the Bible - a small, but significant difference between the Bible and the Quran - - - and especially so as many Muslims try to tell that "messenger" is something bigger than "prophet" (in spite of that "messenger" just means a messenger-boy, whereas "prophet" is a weighty title.

094 5/12g: “- - - and loan to Allah a beautiful loan - - -.” This normally is “Quran-speak” for “risk or lose your life in battle for Muhammad and Allah”. In just this case it is claimed to be said to the Jews of old times, which gave it double value: A good pep-talk and “documenting” that messengers wanting war, was nothing new.

095 5/12h: “- - - and loan to Allah a beautiful loan - - -.” This normally is “Quran-speak” for “risk or lose your life in battle for Muhammad and Allah”. You never find anything similar in the Bible.

096 5/12i: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

097 5/12j: "- - - Gardens - - -". Paradise - and the Quran's Paradise is rather similar to a primitive, uneducated person's ideas about royal luxury life here on Earth, included lots of women. See 10/9f below.

088 5/12k: "- - - Gardens with rivers flowing below - - -". The most repeated Arabism (see 4/13d above) in the Quran.

099 5/12l: "- - - faith - - -". Islam.</>

100 5/12m: "- - - truly - - -". See 2/2b above.

101 5/12n: "- - - the path rectitude". The road to Allah and Islam's Paradise - see 10/9f below.

102 5/12o "- - - the path rectitude". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

103 5/13a: "- - - We (the god*) cursed them - - -". Some Muslims claim this means the god lifted the covenant with the Jews. But this is not what is said - it is easily possible to become angry with someone without retracting serious agreements because of that. There is no indication for that Allah here - or any other place in the Quran or the Bible - terminated the covenant. On the contrary it is very clear that in spite of disagreements, the covenant lived on - the Bible even reports it was renewed several times. This covenant is till this day the reason why the Jews believe they are Yahweh's special people - not that they are the descendants from Abraham, like Muhammad liked to claim. Because the covenant nowhere is reported terminated, it at least formally still is valid - if the books tell the truth. Besides; the essential point here is what Yahweh said and did - and he is not reported terminating the covenance - not even in the Quran. (Also remember: In spite of the Quran's strong claims, Yahweh and Allah is not the same god.

**104 5/13b: “- - - they (the Jews*) change the words (of the OT*) and forget a good part of the Message that was sent them (OT*)”. The claim here is that the Bible is falsified.

There exist some 12ooo scriptures (included some 300 from the Gospels) or fragments older than 610 AD (when Muhammad declared himself a messenger) plus some 32ooo manuscripts or fragments of the same age with references to/quotes from Biblical verses. Many of them also are older than 325 AD - Muslims' main claim for the falsifications is the council of Nicaea in 325 AD (which did not discuss such changes - the agenda is well known - and there were also no Jews participated, so it does not "explain" how come that the Jews made just the same falsification in OT and about f.x. foretelling about Jesus' life, as the Christians). The some 44ooo old manuscripts show that neither OT nor NT is falsified – nor is anything forgotten (omitted). But Islam HAS to insist on this. For one thing this was the excuse Muhammad used when explaining away the differences between the Bible and the Quran – and Muhammad and the Quran has to be true and speaking only the truth, because if not the very foundation under the religion collapses; absolutely everything rests on Muhammad's words, and even according to central Islamic religious literature, his moral was very doubtful (look at what he demanded and did, etc., not at beautiful words and claims about him). And for another thing – if the Quran is wrong and the Bible correct, Islam is a made up religion.

But one fact remains: Islam has not found any proof for their claim about a falsified Bible, even though they have searched for it for 1400 years. They have trumped up a number of arguments, but like so often Islam only have cheap words behind their claims – if they had found one single real proof for their claim among the some 44ooo scriptures or other places, you can bet large money on that the world had been informed quickly and thoroughly about it. This is an even better proof than the proof from science.

When science in addition tells that the Bible is unabridged except for better translations and the small varieties normal for handwritten manuscripts spread over hundreds of years and thousands of kilometers - and there were many thousands of scriptures spread all over - and each and every single one had to be falsified in just the same ways (facts Muslims never mention or explain), and not one of them have marks from falsifications – well, when all this is added up, it is up to you to decide which – if any – of the two books is most reliable. (Also see 2/75b and 3/24d above).

105 5/14a: "- - - Christians - - -". This name was coined a few decades after Jesus only. A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

106 5/14b: "- - - the Message - - -". Here indicated to be similar to the Quran.

107 5/14c: "We (the god*) did take a Covenant (with the Christians, too*) - - -". It is crystal clear that this covenant was confirmed by Jesus' words the last supper (Luke 22/20). This is so well known and so central in the Christian religion, that not one single Muslim really educated in religion do not know this. All the same this almost always is omitted when Muslim scholars write or talk - and the lay Muslim mostly have never heard about it. And then you even in presumably good quality Islamic literature meet claims like this - claims which have to be written against the writers knowledge, as it is so well known (YA: The Meaning of the Quran", comment 715): "The Christian Covenant may be taken to be the charge which Jesus gave to his disciples, and which the disciples accepted, to welcome Ahmad (= Muhammad*)":

1. There exists a verse in the Quran where it is claimed Jesus said there should come a messenger named Ahmad (= Muhammad) - but only in the Quran, a book dictated by Muhammad. Not very strange if Muhammad foretold himself. BUT NOT EVEN THERE IT IS SAID THAT JESUS' DISCIPLES ACCEPTED THE MESSAGE. (It is claimed in the Quran that the disciples said they were Muslims, but not that they got the claimed message about Muhammad). Honesty in argumentation?

There is no-where in the Bible said anything even remotely similar to this. And it is worth remembering that science - and Islam - long since has proved the claims in the Quran about falsifications in the Bible wrong - not to say fakes.

Jesus' order to his disciples before he left them (according to the Bible and not opposed by the Quran) was to find proselytes and make them Christians by baptizing them - something very different from what here is said.

Jesus also told them he should send them a helper - and they received their "parts" of the Holy Spirit some days later, something which helped them quite a lot according to the NT. But Islam strongly claims this helper Jesus promised, was Muhammad - who was born nearly 500 years after the last of the disciples was dead! (But this is the only place they can twist the NT so much that an al-Taqiyya may look distantly believable for the ones not knowing the Bible, and as it is told in the Quran that Muhammad was foretold also in the Gospels, they HAVE to find such a foretelling, come Hell or high water. See 7/157e below.

Another fact worth mentioning here is that in absolutely no foretelling in the Bible about anybody not in the foreteller's near future, are names given - sometimes titles, but never names. In the verse in the Quran claimed to be parallel to one in the Bible, there is a clear name - typical for a deceiver overdoing his "job".

108 5/14d: “For those, too, who call themselves Christians, We (Allah*) did take a Covenant, but they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent them - - -“.

= Also the Christians falsified the Bible - with all the falsifications identical all over the known world and without traces in tens of thousands of manuscripts spread all over the known world. And not least: Christians and Jews used identical falsifications!!. (And on top of all: There was not one Jew at the Council in Nicaea). No comments necessary.

 

109 5/14e: “For those, too, who call themselves Christians, We (Allah*) did take a Covenant, but they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent them - - -“.

Comment (A5/27): “I. e. their going astray from the genuine teachings of Jesus - - -.”

Comment (A5/28): “- - - it is obvious that what is alluded to in this context is the concealing of something from oneself; in other words, it is a reference to the gradual obscuring (read; falsification*), by the followers of the Bible, of its original verities which they are now unwilling to admit even to themselves.”

This claim that the Bible is falsified you find many places in the Quran. But we have written about this so many places, that here we only remind you of that this is the only possible “explanation” Islam has and Muhammad had to “explain” away all the many differences between the Bible and what the Quran claimed the Bible said - - - and that science long since and quite clearly has proved this undocumented claim wrong – the Bible may have mistakes here and there, but not one sample of falsification has been found. On the contrary: All the many old manuscripts show that the Bible today is the same as in the old times. The best proof for this is Islam: If one single real proof for falsification had ever been found, the world had been informed about it each and every time there is a debate between Christians or Jews and Muslims. Not a single consonant or vowel has ever been aired about a real proof – only undocumented statements and claims.

110 5/14f: “- - - but they (Christians*) forgot a good part of the Message (Bible/NT*) that was sent them - - -“. See 2/75b, 3/24d and 5/13b (above). When it comes to NT, science is on even more secure “ground” for saying "nothing is falsified" than for OT, as one has original documents going back nearly to the first churches – included some 300 Gospels or fragments of Gospels – and there are found no falsifications. The texts simply are the same as today, except for minor variations normal for handwritten manuscripts. Islam will have to offer proofs, not only claims taken out of the air like they normally only do. With so many old documents it should have been easy enough to find falsifications - - - if it had been true. Actually Islam's silence when it comes to proved falsifications is an even stronger proof than the words of science for that nothing was falsified. Also see 2/75b, 2/89b and 2/130a above.

111 5/14g: “- - - but they (Christians*) forgot a good part of the Message (Bible/NT*) that was sent them, so We (the god*) estranged them - - -“. But as the claim that the Christians falsified the Bible is untrue (see 2/75b, 2/130a, 3/24d, 3/77a and 5/13 above) - something an omniscient god knew - this should mean that he did not estrange them - the reason for doing so did not exist. Besides no such message is reported anywhere (except in the Quran - a book with heavy reasons for claiming this, a book with hundreds and more of other mistakes, and a book dictated by a man who f.x. believed in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth) and even in deception and in breaking his own oaths (2/225b above and 5/89a+b, 16/91e, and 66/2a below) if that gave a better result).

112 5/15a: "- - - People of the Book (here the Bible) - - -". Mainly Jews and Christians, but also Sabeans (see 2/62f above).

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113 5/15b: "- - - People of the Book (here the Bible) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

114 5/15c: "- - - our (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A man preaching a teaching with so many mistakes, contradictions, etc, is not the messenger of an omniscient god. Also see 63/5a below.

115 5/15d: "- - - our (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

116 5/15e: “- - - revealing to you (Jews and Christians*) much of that ye used to hide in the Book (the Bible*) - - -“. To believe in the theory that the Bible is falsified, one has to know very little about how to make identical falsifications of tens of thousands of copies of many different manuscripts, where on top of all all the different falsifications have to be synchronized in all the different manuscripts, so that the different manuscripts do not tell widely different facts. And not least: All references to and from the different papers must have been synchronized – try to do that even today with 100ooo papers spread over large areas and without using mass communications, or even a post office.

With 12ooo relevant papers or scraps of papers still existing today, there must have been at least 100ooo and many more in the old times, spread all over – papers are destroyed or rot or disappear over the centuries - all identically falsified or falsified so that each corresponded to all the others, because at that time nobody knew which papers would survive until today!!! And then we have not even included the some 32ooo other manuscripts with quotes from the Bible which also have survived till today. All together at least half a million papers had to be falsified - on 3 continents - from 2 religions + sects - in a time nearly without communications. And all had to be falsified in exactly the same ways and no point where falsification was necessary could be forgotten - and EVERY relevant paper had to be found and falsified (if not they could be found in the future). And not least: The falsifications all had to be so cleverly done that it is impossible for modern technology of today to find any traces of it.

It is up to you if you will weep or laugh - the two only normal reactions to a claim like this, if it was not because it was so serious.

Judge for yourself after you also have read all under 2/75, 3/24, 5/13 and 5/14.

But a plot like this could not be used in a novel - nobody would believe in it.

117 5/15f: "- - - and passing over much (that is now unnecessary) - - -". How is this possible to pass over much, if the Quran is an exact copy of the unchangeable "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven, like the Quran claims?

118 5/15g: "- - - and passing over much (that is now unnecessary) - - -". There is quite a lot of stuff in the Bible you do not find in the Quran - some of it rather essential for the religion (and not a little very different from the Quran, included a lot of the essential stuff - and we remind you here that in spite of Muslims' never documented claims, it is empirically proved that the Bible is not falsified).

*119 5/15h: “- - - there hath come to you (Jews, Christians*) from Allah a (new) light (Muhammad*) - - -“. Well, that is one of the questions: Did a man so morally degenerated and preaching a religion based on a book with so many mistakes, etc. and so much wrong logic, really represent a god? And did a war religion with a partly immoral moral code represent a benevolent god? Simply no to each of the questions.

120 5/15i: "- - - a (new) light - - -" may refer either to the Quran or to Muhammad. With so many errors and such a horrible morality neither of the two brought much light to humanity. Riches to some Muslims, yes. Power to some Muslims, yes. Peace to some searching souls - like believers find in any religion - yes. But no light - actually the period from around or shortly after 1000 AD when Islam finally gained full control in Muslim countries and up to some 50 - 90 years ago, yes, some places right up till today, Islam represents the "dark middle age" in the Muslim area - - - and little peace and no progress for humanity.

121 5/15j: “- - - (Allah has sent down*) a perspicuous Book (the Quran*)”. No god has sent down – not to mention revered it as the "Mother Book" in his own Heaven – a book with that many mistakes and contradictions, with and that much wrong and invalid logic.

122 5/15k: "- - - perspicuous - - -". See 2/2b above.

123 5/15l: "- - - a perspicuous Book - - -". Perspicuous?

124 5/15-16: "- - - a perspicuous Book, Wherewith Allah guideth - - -". No god guides by means of a book full of mistakes - and no good and benevolent god uses a book which in addition has partly immoral and unjust moral code and laws, and neither does a good and benevolent god launch a war, hate and suppression religion like in the Quran.

125 5/16a: "- - - to ways of peace and safety - - -". Read the surahs from Medina with all its hate and blood and war, and laugh - or weep.

126 5/16b: "(A book - the Quran which*) leadeth them (Muslims*) out of darkness - - -". Is there any of the big and medium religions which to a greater extent than Islam represents the dark sides if the darkest Middle Age? - into which the Quran not only leads, but condemns its followers.

127 5/16c: "- - - the light - - -" may refer either to Muhammad or more likely to Islam. With so many errors and such a horrible morality neither of the two brought much light to humanity. Riches to some Muslims, yes. Power to some Muslims, yes. Peace to some searching souls - like believers find in any religion - yes. But no light. And no peace on Earth.

128 5/16d: "- - - guideth (by means of the Quran*) them (non-Muslims*) - - -". A book of this quality is no guide.

129 5/16e: "- - - guideth (by means of the Quran*) them (non-Muslims*) to a Path that is Straight". Does Islam represent a straight way? - and in case where? - when it builds on a book no god would ever have made or sent, not to mention revered? It is blasphemy and insults and slander to a god to accuse him of having made a book so full of errors, contradictions, etc. like the Quran.

130 5/16f: "- - - a Path that is Straight". Claimed to be the road to the Quran’s and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

131 5/17a: "In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ - - -." No Christian - not one single one - says that Allah (or Yahweh) = Jesus. They are separate, but closely connected only. To use an Irish picture: Together with the Spirit they make up the 3 parts of a clover leaf. As for the Trinity, though, Islam may be right, as this is not clearly a part of the Bible (though Jesus said: "My Father (Yahweh/God) and I are one" - may be figuratively meant). But no Christian says Yahweh/God = Jesus.

A picture may be: Yahweh = the god. Jesus = a co-worker and/or friend. The Holy Spirit = the messenger - an errand boy and helper.

*132 5/17b: “In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ (= put another god by Allah’s side – the ultimate and unforgivable sin according to 4/48 and 4/116)". No Christian says that Jesus is Allah or the other way around. Neither do they say that Jesus is Yahweh. Also Muhammad never understood the trinity dogma of the Christians. (He believed the trinity consists of Yahweh, Jesus and Mary!!!). But if one looks only at that dogma, Islam may be right that it is not correct - may be. It is only a dogma decided on by humans after much discussion; it is not part of the Bible - but see 5/17a just above. But no-one in his right mind and with some knowledge about the Bible, would ever believe Mary was part of the trinity. Any even baby god had known. Then who made the Quran?

133 5/17c: "In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ - - -." Part of the background for the sharia laws.

134 5/17d: "- - - those that say that Allah is Christ - - -." Contradicting the Bible - but Muhammad did not know the Bible well.

135 5/17e: "- - - the son of Mary - - -". See 5/110a below.

136 5/17f: "Who then hath the least power against Allah - - -". Many if Allah is a fiction. Perhaps f.x. Yahweh if not.

137 5717g: "- - - if His (Allah's*) Will were - - -". See 14/19d below.

138 5/17h: "- - - to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved - one of the many claims any believer in any religion can make free of charge on behalf of his/her god(s) as long as all requests for proofs can be evaded. Words are that cheap.

139 5/17i "- - - to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and earth - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says this belongs to Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

140 5/17j: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

141 5/17k: "He (Allah*) creatheth what he pleaseth". A most interesting claim, as Allah/Muhammad never proved any power to create things. Yahweh proved it if the old books tells the truth, but Allah? - nothing. Also see 2/22d above and 6/1e, 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c below.

142 5/17l: "For Allah hath power over all things". A power he in case never clearly has demonstrated.

*143 5/18a: “(Both) the Jews and the Christians say: ‘We are sons of Allah, and (we are*)His beloved’”. Neither Jews nor Christians say they are real sons - or daughters - of Yahweh (not of Allah) (though they often figuratively - but only figuratively - refer to Yahweh as the “Father in Heaven” or humans as "Children of God".)

*144 5/18b: “(Both) the Jews and the Christians say: ‘We are sons of Allah, and (we are*)His beloved’”. A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

*145 5/18c: “(Both) the Jews and the Christians say: ‘We are sons of Allah, and (we are*) His beloved’”. One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

**146 5/18d: “Why then doth He (the god*) punish you for your sins (if he loves you*)”. Wrong psychology, and a naïve question, as anyone knows you sometimes have to punish even children you love to teach them how to behave.

147 5/18e: "- - - the men He (Allah*) hath created - - -". See 5/17k above and 6/2b and 11/7a below.

148 5/18f: "He (Allah*) forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and punish whom He pleaseth". Whereas the Christian god according to the Bible forgives anyone who regret honestly and tries to make amends, and punishes only those who deserve it. The same god? Guess twice.

149 5/18g: "- - - to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". See 5/17d above.

150 5/18h: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

151 5/18i: "- - - unto Him (Allah*) is the final goal (of all)". If he exists, if he in case is a major god - and if the Quran has told the truth.

152 5/18j: "- - - unto Him (Allah*) is the final goal (of all)". Contradicted by the Bible, which says that the final goal is unto Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

153 5/19a: "- - - People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". = Jews and Christians mainly, but also the Sabeans (see 2/62f above).

154 5/19b: "- - - People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d below.

155 5/19c: “O People of the Book! Now hath come unto you, making (things) clear unto you - - -". A preacher using and a preaching containing so many errors like the one of Muhammad, does not make things clear. (Sometimes it even messes up things.)

156 5/19d: “O People of the Book (mainly Jews and Christians, but also Sabeans - a Christian sect in Sabah, now part of Yemen (though there are other explanations - and see 2/62f) - and later after a fashion and in some circles also Zoroastrians*)! Now hath come unto you, making (things) clear unto you, Our (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -”. A man preaching from a book with that much error of many kinds, was not from any omniscient god. And a man preaching so immoral a moral code and similar law, did not represent any good and benevolent god. Also see 63/5a below.

157 5/19e: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d below.

###158 5/19f: "- - - after a break in (the series of Our (Allah's*) Messengers - - -". Muhammad and the Quran pretended/pretend Muhammad belong(ed) in the Jewish line - or series - of prophets. This is not correct, as both the god, the teaching and the fundamental ideas, ethics and moral codes are too different - Muhammad and his god and teaching often are even the antithesis of the prophets in the Bible and especially of the NT. Muhammad definitely is not in that line.

159 5/19g: "- - - bringer (Muhammad*) of glad tidings - - -". Please read the surahs from Medina + 1/1a above and see what "glad" tidings he brought - especially as it is clear that his claimed tidings - the Quran with all its mistakes, contradictions, etc. - are not from a god.

160 5/19h: "- - - bringer (Muhammad*) of glad tidings - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

161 5/19i: “- - - glad tidings - - -.” Wrong. See 2/97g above and 61/13e below.

162 5/19j: "- - - a warner (Muhammad*) - - -". At this time (632 AD) this at least was a Kitman (a lawful half-truth). In 632 AD Muhammad also was an enforcer - most of Arabia and much of the rest of the now Muslim area became Muslim by some kind of force - weapons, money, social pressure, work, etc. (Arabia mainly by greed - the Arabs wanted parts of the loot from raids and wars - or force: "Become Muslims or fight and die - and see your women and children become slaves".)

163 5/19k: "- - - a warner (Muhammad*) - - -". But after ca. 623 AD little by little also an enforcer.

164 5/19l: "- - - (- - - evil) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with the book's own partly immoral moral code.

###165 5/19m: "- - - but now hath come to you (Jews, Christians, Sabeans*) a bringer (Muhammad*) of glad tidings and a warner (from evil)." Read the Quran - skip the glorious words, and read the realities; the demands, the introduced rules, the deeds, the (im)moral code, the lack of ethics, the sharia law, the code of war, etc. Glorious words are cheap to use for propaganda, the underlying realities are the realities. Read these realities and see what "glad tidings" and warning from real evil you find. Muhammad probably is the single man throughout the existence of man who has brought most terror and misery into this world - and if his Quran with all its errors, etc. is made up or from dark forces, also into the possible next world for his followers, if there is a real god somewhere.

166 5/19n: "And Allah hath power over all things". Often claimed, never reliably proved - not once in 1400 years.

167 5/20a: Moses talked about Allah. Especially as it is clear Yahweh and Allah cannot be the same god, and as all the really old manuscripts mention Yahweh, it is highly unlikely Moses mentioned Allah - not to say it stronger. Also a contradiction to the Bible, which tells he talked about Yahweh.

**168 5/20b: “Remember Moses said to his people: - - - Allah - - - made you kings”. This is the correct literal meaning of the Arab text, but it is historically wrong. The first Jewish kings were Saul (Talut in the Quran) and then David some 200 - 300 years after Moses (around 1000 BC whereas Moses - if he was a real person - lived around 1300 BC). Any - even minor - god had known this. We have heard Muslims explain that this is not what the Quran means, but that Allah made all Jews like kings. But anyone who knows a little about Jewish history and about Jews before and now, knows very well that most Jews never were or are or behave(d) like kings. It is an obvious “explanation”. To circumvent and hide the mistake you find this translation in “The Message of the Quran: “- - - and (Allah*) made you your own masters - - -.” Honesty in religion? – al-Taqiyya? - - - a language “clear and easy to understand”?

Any omniscient god knows the full history of the Jews, Muhammad did not - this is clear many places in the Quran - and believe the Jews had had kings even before Moses. Then who made the Quran?

169 5/20c: "- - - Moses - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

170 5/20-21: "Remember Moses said to his people: - - - O my people! Enter ye (the land which were to become Israel') - - -". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

171 5/21a: “- - - the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you (Moses and his Jews*) - - -“. Allah or Yahweh? (See also 3/51 above).

172 5/21b: "- - - the holy land - - -". Wrong. This expression (name for Israel) did not exist at the time of Moses - it is a much, much younger name (coined sometimes in the first millennia AD as far as we have been able to find out). It also never is used in the Bible, not to mention in OT. A glaring historical anomaly - see 4/13d below.

173 5/22a: "They (the Jews*) said: ' O Moses - - - (etc.*)". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

174 5/22c: The Jews were frightened by the people living in Canaan, and Moses never entered it. That did not happen until under the next leader, Joshua ben Nun. (There may be a symbolism in that Joshua led them into the promised land - Joshua (Hebrew) is the same name as Jesus (Greek).)

175 5/22d: The Jews were frightened by the people living in Canaan, (and Moses never entered it). See comment to 5/20-21 above.

176 5/23a: “- - - two (of Moses’ Jews*) on whom Allah hath - - -“. Allah or Yahweh? See also 3/51 above.

#177 5/23b: “- - - two (of Moses’ Jews*) on whom Allah hath - - -“. Note how often the Quran is vague on details - f.x. names. Muhammad simply did not know, and thus he simply found a name (perhaps from Arab legends?) - like for the father of Abraham (Azar instead of Terah) or the first Jewish king (Talut instead of Saul), or he used vague words like here. In just this case the Bible simply tells that Joshua ben Nun and Caleb ben Jephunneh (4. Mos. 14/6) - both later leaders - wanted the Jews to enter Canaan at once. (There is no doubt which is the best piece of literature of the Bible and the Quran also in this case).

178 5/23c: "- - - they (Joshua and Caleb*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

179 5/23d: "- - - they (Joshua and Caleb*) said: "Assult them - - - etc." See comment to 5/20-21 above.

180 5/23e: "Assault them (the Canaanites*) at the proper Gate - - -". What does this mean? - you may attack a walled town through a gate, but not a country.

181 5/23f: “- - - but on Allah put your (Jews*) trust if you have faith”. It is highly unlikely Jews at the time of Moses told their fellow Jews to trust Allah, as the name of the god of the Jews was Yahweh (and besides the name Allah was introduced by Mohammad only some 2000 years later (as a substitute for al-Lah). Actually Muhammad often uses the name Allah where it should have been Yahweh. The switching of names is so obvious, that mostly we do not comment on it.) Contradicted by the Bible. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

182 5/24a: "They (the Jews*) said: ' O Moses - - - (etc.*)". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

183 5/24b: This verse is not from the Bible. (Though it is correct Moses did not start invasion because it was thought they could not succeed, according to the Bible). From where did Muhammad get this verse as it is clear the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is not from a god? The alternatives are: It is made up by men - perhaps Muhammad - it is from a fairy tale or a legend, it is from dark forces.

184 5/24-26: These verses do not give the moral explanation why Moses himself was denied access to Canaan. In the Bible you find it - Moses chickened out together with the others and did not follow Yahweh's order and Joshua's and Caleb's advice. (4. Mos. ch. 14). In the Quran his wish is different (5/25), which makes the Quran lose the moral reason for punishing him.

185 5/25a: "He (Moses*) said - - - (etc.*)". See comment to 5/2021 above.

186 5/25b: "- - - separate us (Moses and Aaron*) from this rebellious people (the Jews*)!" Not from the Bible.

187 5/26: See 5/24-26 above.

188 5/27a: "- - - the truth of the stories of the two sons of Adam (Cain and Abel*)". Well is it the truth? The murder is from the Bible, but the dialogue between the two just before the murder is borrowed from the made up scripture the Targum of Jerusalem (better known as pseudo-Jonathan).

Did an omniscient and omnipotent god really have to borrow from made up texts and then call it "the truth"?

189 5/27b: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

190 5/27c: "- - - the two sons of Adam - - -". Like so very often the Quran is vague on relevant details, like here the names - Muhammad simply did not know them. Not good literature. (You find them in the Bible: Cain and Abel). Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

191 5/27d: "- - - Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible which says they addressed Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

192 5/27e: "- - - righteous". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

193 5/27-31 Cain and Abel (the names not mentioned in the Quran): A lot of this is neither in the Bible nor in any other somewhat reliable source (actually the Bible is the only existing source about them). See 5/27a above.

194 5/28a: “If thou (“infidels”, Cain*) dost stretch thy hand against me (Muslims, Abel*), it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee - - -.” When you read this, remember that Muslims have no overall moral philosophy. What they have is a code telling them to look for “What did Muhammad say about such things?” If he has said something, they take that as a moral code – good moral or not. If not, they have to look in the book: “Is there a parallel situation somewhere?” If they find – sometimes by stretching imagination – a "right" way to act, or the alibi for how one wishes to act, that is the moral code. Mind also that this verse is one of the very few in all the Quran which is in accordance with the teachings of Jesus – one of the very few. And it is totally “murdered” by abrogations. This verse is contradicted and abrogated and “killed” by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256 in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran". (At least 29 contradictions). Besides: This sentence or similar is not mentioned in the Bible or any other somewhat reliable source.

195 5/28b: “If thou (“infidels”, Cain*) dost stretch thy hand against me (Muslims, Abel*), it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee - - -.” This is not from the Bible. See 5/27a above.

196 5/28c: "- - - I (Cain*) do fear Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says his god was Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

197 5/28d: "- - - Allah, the Cherisher of the worlds". Only if he exists and is correctly described in the Quran.

198 5/28e: "- - - Allah, the Cherisher of the worlds". Contradicted by the Bible, which claims this was the job of Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

199 5/28f: "- - - the worlds". Wrong. This refers to the 7 worlds claimed in 65/12b below (one on top of the other according to Hadiths). But there exist only one Earth.

200 5/28-29: The dialogue between the two is "borrowed" from the made up scripture Targum of Jerusalem (better known as pseudo-Jonathan) - see 5/27a above.

201 5/29a: (YA732): “- - - my sin as well as thine - - -.” The meaning is that a murderer according to the Quran also carries the sins of the victim – as the victim was robbed his possibility to regret his sin and be forgiven (this is one of the dogmas in Islam). But there also is another possible meaning: “my sin” may mean the sin against me who is murdered, and “thy sin” may then be the committing of the murder or “thy sin against yourself by committing such a grave deed and rob yourself for Paradise.”

There is no similar text in the Bible, etc. Actually just this part of the story of Cain and Abel as said is from "the Targum of Jerusalem" also known as "pseudo-Jonathan", not from the Bible.

202 5/29b: "- - - Companions of the Fire - - -". The ones destined to end in Hell.

203 5/29c: "- - -(Hell is*) - - - the reward for those who do wrong”. See 3/77b above.

204 5/29d: "- - - do wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

205 5/31: The raven and Cain. This tale is not from the Bible, but is to be found in "The Targum of Jonathan ben Uzziah" and also in "The Targum of Jerusalem" also called "pseudo-Jonathan". You also find it in Mishna Sanhedrin. All these 3 are made up Jewish tales. Muhammad "borrowed" from many places. Would a god need to borrow from made up tales?

206 5/31-32: "'Woe is me!' said he (Cain*); 'Was I not even able to hide the shame of my brother?" Then he became full of regrets - On that account (which account? - there is no meaningful reason here for what follows*): We (Allah*) ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a people - - - it would be as if he slew the whole people - - -". This sentence refers to something, but what it refers to here - Cain's regret - does not give meaning, as it is not a reason for such a drastic and unconnected conclusion.

If you look in the Bible (1. Mos. 4/10) you find: "Your (Cain's*) brother's blood cries out to me (Yahweh*) from the ground". And if you go from there to Mishna Sanhedrin (4/5) you find the full story the Quran is partly repeating: "The voice of your brother's blood (NB: This word is in plural*) cries out. Man was created individually, so as to show that if someone kills a single individual, it shall be reckoned like if he had killed the whole people".

The difference - and the reason Muhammad missed - is the word "blood" in plural, which means the victims own blood and the blood of his semen = the blood of all his descendants who will never be born because he was killed. The killer thus kills not only the victim, but also all his unborn descendants - "all the people".

Muhammad here simply quotes Mishna Sanhedrin (4/5), but did not know the tale well enough to see the crucial point here - and got a conclusion hanging in the air.

207 5/32a: "We (the god*) ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - - - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people". This is not from the Bible - there neither is anything similar in the Bible. (See 5/32b+c just below).

208 5/32b: "- - - if anyone slew a person - - - it would be as if he slew the whole people (often quoted/translated "- - - as if he killed the whole mankind/world - - -") - - -". (Also see 5/31-32 above.) This is a sentence much quoted by Muslims to prove how peaceful Islam is. But this was not said to the Muslims; for some reason or other, they without exception drop the first part of the quote: "We (Allah*) ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person - - - it would be as if he slew the whole people - - -". They never "remember" to mention that this was said to the Jews, not to the Muslims or Arabs. Forgotten?

It is also worth to note that the Quran often is quoted/translated: "- - - as if he killed the whole mankind - - -" or "- - - as if he killed the whole world - - -". There is a difference between killing a people and killing the whole mankind/world. Also see 5/31-32 just above.

 

Is the Quran really the work of an omniscient god?

209 5/32c: "- - - if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people." A parallel to 5/31-32 and 5/32a above.

210 5/32d: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Messengers - - -". Included here of course is Muhammad. But no god sent a messenger with a message containing so much wrong facts, etc. Also see 63/5a below.

211 5/32e: "- - - Clear Signs (for Allah*) - - -". Wrong. See 2/39b above.

212 5/33a: “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and his Messenger (Muhammad*) - - - is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from the opposite sides, or exile from the land.” Remember that this surah is from 632 AD, and that practically all raids and wars were wars of aggression from the Muslims, mostly raids for riches – even the battles of Badr, Uhud and Medina/the Trench were battle in a war of aggression started and kept alive by Muhammad – so mostly the victims who “fought war against Allah and his Messenger” were fighting in desperate and sheer self defense to defend themselves against the on-slaughter of Islam - - - and to defend themselves obviously was a great sin. Muslims attacked for gaining loot, land, slaves, power - - - and force Islam on their neighbors. Arabia mainly was made Islamic by the sword. In spite of Islam’s peaceful words some places, the local Arabs normally only got two choices: Become Muslims or fight/die. A clear contradiction – and abrogation of 2/256: "Let there be no compulsion in religion".

213 5/33b: “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and his Messenger (Muhammad*) - - - is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from the opposite sides, or exile from the land.” When you read this verse from 632 AD when Muhammad had became powerful, remember all the verses from Mecca telling that his job just was to preach. Muhammad - and his religion - had changed quite a lot.

214 5/33c: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's standard mantra to glue himself to his god and thus to his platform of power.

215 5/33d: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

216 5/33e: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

217 5/33f: "- - - (making*) mischief through the land - - -". Most of the mischief was made by the Muslims in their aggressive attacks for riches, slaves/extortion and for forcing Islam on its neighbors - most of Arabia was made Muslim by the sword and by Arabs' lust for looting, which made many become Muslims so as to have the permission to loot and rape, enslave and extort.

There exists an old folk tale: A bear was drinking from a river. Further down a lamb also was drinking. "You dirty the water for me", the bear said to the lamb. "No, that is impossible, sir", the lamb answered. "You are further upriver from me, and the water is streaming from you to me, and not from me to you". "I say that you dirty the water for me", the bear repeated, and killed the lamb.

 

Often Muslim claims and "explanations" make us think about this small tale.

 

218 5/33g: "- - - a heavy punishment is theirs (non-Muslims'*) in the Hereafter". See 3/77b above - and the irony in this point on the background of 5/33a above.

##219 5/33h: This verse is the antithesis of the underlying of the moral philosophy about this in the NT, and a strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - one of those many who singlehanded prove it. And then there are all the other proofs, indicia and indications in addition.

220 5/34a: "Except for those (opponents of Islam*) who repent before they fall into your (Muhammad's*) power." If you are negative to Islam and fall into Muslim hands it is too late to change your mind - punishment is just and right and to be expected. With Muhammad the great idol, there is no wonder terrorists murder victims, guilty or not guilty of anything.

Compare this f.x. to "the 11. hour" - f.x. Matt. 20/8-13 - or "love your enemies" - f.x. Matt. 5/44. Yahweh and Allah the same god? The claim is not even nonsense.

221 5/34b "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

222 5/35a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

223 5/35b: “Do your duty to Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which means you should do your duty - and ask for help and forgiving - to/from Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

224 5/35c: “Do your duty to Allah, seek the means of approach unto Him, and strive with might and mind (= make war*) in His Cause: that ye may prosper”. You prosper if you do like this. Islam after fighting non-religious knowledge for a few centuries (ca 1100 AD - or actually 1095 AD in the eastern and central Muslim area and ca. 1198 in the western) found that there was no prosperity in thinking and researching and studying - except just studying and repeating the religion and related subjects - to fight and steal/rob/suppress/enslave on the other hand was good. The result was stagnation after some time, and not prosperity.

225 5/35d: “- - - strive with might and main (normally in the Quran this means “fight in war”*) in His (Allah’s*) cause.” A clear order.

###226 5/35e: “- - - strive with might and main (normally in the Quran this means “fight in war”*) in His (Allah’s*) cause.” It is not possible to be the antithesis of NT about such things than this. This sentence alone is a 110% proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. And there in addition are many more proofs, indicia and indications.

227 5/35f: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b just above*) in His (Allah’s*) cause: that you may prosper.” Fight for Allah (and Muhammad) – then you may get a prosperous life. The alternative - death - was glorious. The alternative war cripple is never - not once - mentioned in the Quran. Only the "two glorious fates": Rich from stealing/loot or dead and in Paradise. 20-30-40 years as a cripple dependant on others or as a beggar because you were too much hurt to work - may be in pain - such alternatives are never mentioned. The same for what about your children and your family if you are crippled or killed.

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####228 5/35g: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b just above*) in His (Allah’s*) cause - - -”. For us this is one of the most detestable points in all the Quran and Islam: Fight and steal and rob and mutilate and rape and enslave and hate and murder and suppress in the name of your god - a claimed good and benevolent god.

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229 5/36a: "- - - those who reject Faith - - -". One of Muhammad's many to Muslims negative and thus distaste or more inducing names for non-Muslims.

230 5/36b: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

231 5/36c: "- - - if they (non-Muslims*) had everything on earth - - - to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Judgment, it would never be accepted from them". Pep-talk.

232 5/36d: "- - - if they (non-Muslims*) had everything on earth - - - to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Judgment, it would never be accepted from them". This only can be true if the Quran is true and from a god.

233 5/36e: "- - - if they (non-Muslims*) had everything on earth - - - to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Judgment, it would never be accepted from them". As for Jews and Christians the Bible strongly contradicts this.

234 5/36f: "- - - grievous Penalty". See 3/77b above.

235 5/37a: "- - - never will they (sinners*) get out therefrom (the fire of Hell*) - - -". Well, there are at least these verses in the Quran which may indicate that Hell is not really forever, but will come to an end after a very long time: 6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74d, 51/13c, and 78/23. (And 11/108c) may indicate that also Paradise is not forever.) Islam is not sure what to believe about this.

236 5/37b: "- - - their (non-Muslims*) Penalty will be one that endures". See 3/77b above.

237 5/38a: (YA742): “- - - cut off his or her (the thief’s*) hands - - -.” One hand or both hands? Islam normally says one hand first time, but the text is not clear as it here is used plural. Besides: Does this go also for petty theft? – Muslims disagree, yes or no? - and the text is not clear. Would a benevolent god not be clear as daylight in a question as serious as this one?

238 5/38b: (YA742): “- - - cut off his or her (the thief’s*) hands - - -.” This is not from the Bible, and definitely not from NT.

239 5/38c: (YA742): “- - - cut off his or her (the thief’s*) hands, a punishment by way of example, from Allah - - -”. Whatever one can say about Allah, he is merciless - big, nice words, but reality, demands and deeds tell the real truth here like in many other cases in the Quran.

240 5/38d: "- - - Allah is Exalted in Power." Often claimed, never clearly shown.

241 5/39a: "- - - Allah turneth to him (a repenting sinner*) in forgiveness - - -". Allah cannot forgive unless he exists and in addition is a real god.

242 5/39b: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

243 5/39c: "- - - oft-Forgiving - - -". See 5/39a above.

244 5/40a: "Knowest thou not that to Allah (alone) belongeth the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth?" No, we do not know so. There is no reliable information saying so, only the word of a little reliable man liking power and believing in using also lies and deception.

245 5/40b: "- - - to Allah (alone*) belongeth the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved. One of the many cheap claims any believer in any religion can make on behalf of his/her god(s) as long as the requests for proofs can be evaded.

246 5/40c: "Knowest thou not that to Allah (alone) belongeth the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth?" Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which says this belongs to Yahweh. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

247 5/40d: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

248 5/40e: "He (Allah*) punisheth whom He pleaseth, and He forgiveth whom He pleaseth - - -". If you think the world is unjust, remember that it is Allah in his unfathomable wisdom who runs it - and accept that Allah is just even if you do not understand it.

249 5/40f: "He (Allah*) forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and punish whom He pleaseth - - -". Whereas the Christian god according to the Bible forgives anyone who regret honestly and tries to make amends, and punishes only those who deserve it. The same god? Guess.

250 5/40g: "He (Allah*) forgiveth - - -". See 5/39a above.

251 5/40h: "Allah hath power over all things". Often claimed. never really proved.

252 5/41a: "O Messenger (Muhammad*)!" See 63/5a below.

253 5/41b: "O Messenger (Muhammad*)!" A historical anomaly - see 4/13d below.

254 5/41c: “Let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief”. (In last edition: "To unbelief"). No comment necessary, except compare to f.x. "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14), "the lost son" (Luke 1/11-31), "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8-13) - the same god? You bet no.

255 5/41d: “Let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief”. Strongly contradicted by the Bible who grieves for them - so strong a contradiction that this is one of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

256 5/41e: "- - - those - - - who race each other into unbelief - - -". One of Muhammad's negative names for non-Muslims - here for hypocrites and Jews and perhaps also for those leaving Islam.

257 5/41f: "- - - those - - - who race each other into unbelief - - -". As the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is from no god, and as the Jews and Christians (and may be others) believe in a book which may basically be true - who is racing into unbelief?

258 5/41g: "- - - men who will listen to any lie - - -". Psychologically a much better explanation to use for Muhammad about the ones not believing in him, than to admit the reason might be that they understood something was seriously wrong in his new religion.

259 5/41h: (YA745): “- - - (some*) came to thee (Muhammad*) - - -“. But the Arab words can just as well mean “- - - came for thee - - -“ which sounds a lot more ominous. Clear language?

260 5/41i: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) change the words - - -". This may refer either to Muhammad's (wrong) claim that they falsified the Bible, or to his claim that they sometimes changed Muhammad's words.

261 5/41j: "If anyone's trial is intended by Allah - - -". Why would an omniscient and predestining god need to try anybody - anybody at all? There is no logic in this.

262 5/41k: "(For non-Muslims or hypocrites*) it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts". Compare with f.x. "the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14). One more strong indication, not to say proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

263 5/41l: "- - - and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment". See 3/77b above.

264 5/42a: "- - - listening to falsehood - - -". Psychologically a much better explanation for Muhammad to use about the ones not believing in his new religion, than to admit that the reason might be that they understood something was very wrong in his teaching.

265 5/42b: "- - - falsehood - - -". See 2/2b above.

266 5/42c: (YA747): “- - - devouring anything forbidden.” Does this refer to food or to deeds – f.x. taking usury (the expression "devouring usury" is used several times in Islam)? Or perhaps devouring knowledge not in accordance with Muhammad’s teaching? No-one knows – perhaps all three? Clear language.

267 5/42d: "If thou (Muhammad*) judge, judge in equity between them (non-Muslims*)". The words are good - and varieties of these words are repeated some times in the Quran, also concerning Muslims. But is it possible always to judge fair and just, if you have to go by the sharia laws and its partly immoral and unjust rules?

268 5/42e: "For Allah loveth those who judge in equity". Pleas study the Quran's moral code and the sharia laws, and then read this sentence once more.

269 5/43a: "- - - people of the Faith". Muslims.

270 5/43b: "- - - Faith". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

271 5/44a: "It was We (Allah*) who revealed the Law (to Moses) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible which says it was from Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

272 5/44b: "It was We (Allah*) who revealed the Law (to Moses) - - -". The law was not revealed to Moses - though that word might fit Muhammad better, as he could compare himself with Moses then - but told to him. Yahweh spoke directly to Moses.

273 5/44c: "- - - the Law (of Moses*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d below.

274 5/44d: "- - - the (Jewish*) Prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's Will - - -". You can be pretty sure it was to Yahweh's will. Muslims claim the two gods, Allah and Yahweh, were the same one, but the fundamental elements in Islam and in the Mosaic religion, not to mention in Christianity are too different - it is not possible it is the same god (unless he is seriously mentally ill), and not possible that f.x. Jesus and Muhammad were in the same line of prophets - the teachings were too different (and the only "explanation" offered by Islam - falsified Bible - is proved wrong by science and even more so by Islam).

275 5/44e: "- - - to them (the learned Jews*) was entrusted the protection of Allah's Book - - -". The often repeated claim: The Jews got a book similar to the Quran from Allah, but falsified it so that it became OT. See 5/44c just above.

276 5/44f: "- - - barter away My (Allah's*) Signs for a miserable price". See 3/77a above.

277 5/44g: “- - - My (Allah's*) Sign(s) - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

278 5/44h: "- - - (the light of) what Allah hath revealed (the Quran*) - - -". There is little religious light in a claimed holy book full of mistakes and not from a god.

279 5/44i: "- - - what (the Quran*) Allah hath revealed - - -". No god ever revealed a book with so many errors, etc.

280 5/44j: "- - - they are (no better than) Unbelievers". Sentences like this are quite revealing about what Muhammad wanted - and wants - Muslims mean about non-Muslims.

281 5/44k: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

282 5/45a: "We ordered for them: 'Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal'" This is approximately what the OT says - and the Quran is even more specific as it recons different values for different lives: "Free man for free man, woman for woman (half value*), slave for slave (no human value, only economic one*)". The "turn the other cheek" from NT and its New Covenant (f.x. Luke 22/20 and other places in NT) you never find in the Quran or mentioned by Muslims (you may forgive, but that is based on quite another moral idea). Why - if the gods had been the same one like the Quran claims - should that god have gone from the on this point rather harsh law of Moses (which was much milder than the customs for revenge before that time, though), to mildness in the NT and its New Covenant, and then back to something at least as harsh as the laws of Moses?

283 5/45b: "- - - judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed - - -". Judge by the rules in the Quran and by its (partly immoral) moral code.

284 5/45c: "- - - (the light of) what Allah hath revealed (the Quran*) - - -". There is little religious light in a claimed holy book full of mistakes and not from a god.

285 5/45d: "- - - what (the Quran*) Allah hath revealed - - -". No god ever revealed a book with so many errors, etc.

286 5/45e: "- - - they are (no better than) wrongdoers". Sentences like this are quite revealing about what Muhammad wanted - and wants - Muslims mean about non-Muslims.

287 5/45f: "- - - wrongdoers". One of the negative names the Quran uses for non-Muslims.

288 5/46a: “- - - we (Allah*) sent Jesus - - -". Well, according to the Bible Jesus was sent by Yahweh.

289 5/46b: "- - - Jesus - - -". A historical anomaly.

290 5/46c: “- - - we (Allah*) sent Jesus the son of Mary - - -". See 5/110a below.

*291 5/46d: “We (Allah*) sent - - - the Gospel”. Any person with some knowledge about this, knows the Gospels were not sent down by anyone. They were written by men.

*292 5/46e: “We (Allah*) sent him (Jesus‘) the Gospel (a Gospel = the story about Jesus' life, death, resurrection and ascension to heaven) - - -”. Any god had known that the Gospels did not exist at the time of Jesus - the oldest of the 4 was written about 1 generation after his death.(Islam tries to get out of this fix by claiming the Quran talks about an older Gospel. And actually there may have existed an older one. But as a Gospel as mentioned is the story of Jesus' life, death and resurrection, also this in case could not be written until after all had happened - not unless there is full predestination, and thus no free will for man. And only the Quran claims predestination - one more serious difference between the two books and the two religions proving once more that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. See 3/3g-k and 3/48 above.

When it comes to foretelling about Muhammad, which is mentioned in the Quran, it seems that just this was and is more essential to Islam and Muslims, than to Muhammad himself, because he did not return to that topic often (or maybe he was careful because he suspected or knew it was not true?). For Islam and Muslims it is an essential question, however, because Islam has not one single valid proof neither for Allah nor for Muhammad’s connection to a god – a real foretelling had been if not a proof, then at least a good indication. There exists no such one in the Bible, in spite of Islam's claims - they cherry-pick and then twist some words and quote them out of context, and try to make it look like foretelling about Muhammad, but they can cheat only people not knowing the Bible.

Besides the Quran tells that Muhammad is easy to find both in OT and NT, and then Islam has to find him “come Hell or high water” – if not the Quran is wrong and then something is wrong with the religion. An indication of how essential this claim is to the Muslim clergy, is that in Hadiths – f.x. Al-Bukhari – you find “quotations” about Muhammad presumably taken from the Bible and presumably quoted from the Bible at about the time of Muhammad (and thus it is impossible even for Islam to claim that the Bible is falsified afterwards), which are not from the Bible, but the commentators do not whisper one word about that the quotes are wrong, but just let readers who do not know the Bible (= f.x. 99.9% of the Muslims) believe it is a “bona fide” and correct quote). An Al-Taqiyya.

293 5/46f: “- - - we (Allah*) sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law (of Moses*)”. According to the Bible Jesus was not sent to change the old laws – that was not his main purpose. All the same he did so – changed some and even nullified some of them, especially most of all the additions made through the times by Jewish religious thinkers and leaders. This was more or less formalized during his last Easter, when the new covenant (f. ex. Luke 22/20) was made. (This covenant is never mentioned by Islam, and most Muslims without religious education have not even heard about it. This even though it is one of the main and most central facts in the Christian religion).

It is worth remembering that at least one place the Quran confirms that Jesus changed old Jewish laws (3/50a above).

294 5/47a: "- - - the People of the Gospel - - -". = Christians.

295 5/47b: "- - - the Gospel - - -". A historic anomaly. See 4/13d above.

296 5/47c: "- - - what Allah hath revealed therein (in the Gospels*)". Allah has revealed pretty little in the Gospel - according to the Bible that in case is done by Yahweh. (This mistake is because Muhammad wrongly claimed Yahweh and Allah were the same god, and also claimed that the Gospels were sent down to man).

297 5/47d: "If any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed (the Quran*), they are (no better than) those who rebel". As the moral and judicial rules are different - often very different - in especially NT compared to the Quran, Christians (and also Jews after all) rebel. Bad people.

298 5/47e: "- - - they are (no better than) those who rebel". Sentences like this are quite revealing about what Muhammad wanted - and wants - Muslims mean about non-Muslims.

299 5/47f: "- - - those who rebel - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative and distaste inducing names for non-Muslims - in this case mainly Jews and Christians.

300 5/48a: “To thee (Muhammad*) We (Allah*) sent the Scripture - - -”. As there are many mistakes, contradictions, etc. in the Quran, there are reasonable doubts about if a god really sent down the Quran, to say the least of it. This even more so as a number of the mistakes is in accordance with what one believed to be true at the time of Muhammad in the Middle East. Muhammad would have believed it was the truth, a god had known it was wrong. Then who made the Quran?

Islam will have to prove the statement to be believed by rational thinkers with some knowledge.

301 5/48b: “- - - We (Allah*) sent the Scripture in truth - - -”. With all the mistaken facts - and perhaps other mistakes - in the Quran, it is at most partly the truth.

302 5/48c: "- - - in truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

303 5/48d: “- - - (the Quran is*) confirming the scripture (the Bible*) that came before it, - - -”. There are so many and so fundamental differences between the Quran and the Bible - especially NT - that the Quran is no confirmation of the Bible, and especially not of the NT. See 2/89b, 3/3g-k and 3/48 above.

304 5/48e: "- - - confirming - - -". See 2/2b above.

305 5/48f "- - - what Allah hath revealed (the Quran*) - - -". No book with so many mistakes is from any omniscient god.

306 5/48g: "- - - revealed - - -". See 4/47c above.

307 5/48h: “- - - diverging from the Truth (the Quran*) that hath come to thee.” With that many mistakes, the Quran at best is only partly the Truth. Islam repeats and repeats and repeats the claim that this is “the Truth”. It is tempting to remember Minister of Propaganda (!) in “Das Reich” – Nazi Germany – Joseph Goebbels: “If you repeat a lie often enough, people starts believing it”. (There also are many other similarities between Islam and Nazism, and Nazism was liked and respected in large parts of the Muslim populations in the Nazis’ satanic days.) It also is tempting to mention that none are more eager to claim he is telling the truth, than the cheater and the deceiver.

308 5/48i: "- - - Truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

309 5/48j: "To each of you (Jews, Christians, Muslims*) have We (Allah*) prescribed a Law - - -". If the same god has prescribed the laws and rules in the Bible and the ones in the Quran, that god is at least schizophrenic. If a god has prescribed the laws and rules in the Quran, that god at least is neither good nor benevolent.

310 5/48k: “If Allah had so willed - - -". One of many places telling that if only Allah would, he could do this and this - - - but Allah never would. Just like hearing children or immature persons trying to impress others. Such talk often is called boasting.

311 5/48l: “If Allah had so willed, He would have made you (Muslims*) a single people - - -”. But local Muslim chiefs, kings, etc. wanting power has made that impossible for some 1400 years. Either one Ummah - nation - is not according to Allah’s will, or the local chiefs or caliphs or whatever are stronger than Allah - easy if he does not exist.

312 5/48m; "- - - (His (Allah's*) plan is) - - -". Allah decides everything, and according to his Plan which no-one can change. Predestination once more.

313 5/48n; "- - - (His (Allah's*) plan is) to test you - - -". But why does an omniscient god who on top of all predestines everything, need to test his followers?!?!

314 5/48o: "- - - what He (Allah*) hath given you - - -". Everything you own is a gift from Allah, according to the Quran.

315 5/48p: “- - - so strive as in a race in all virtues.” In a race of all virtues you strive peacefully. But in the Quran the virtue is war.

316 5/48q: "The goal of you all is to Allah - - -". If he exists. If he is a god. If he is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth.

317 5/48r: "The goal of you all is to Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which claims the goal is Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

318 5/48s: "- - - it is He (Allah*) that will show you the truth - - -". If he exists and is a god. If he is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth.

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319 5/48t: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

320 5/49a: "- - - by what Allah hath revealed (the Quran*) - - -". No omniscient god ever revealed a book of that quality - it is an insult and blasphemy against the god to claim so.

321 5/49b: "- - - revealed - - -". See 4/47c above.

322 5/49c: "- - - their (non-Muslims' - in this case Christians'*) vain desire - - -". The Christians "vain desire" was to follow the Bible, which they saw was very different from Muhammad's new religion.

323 5/49d: "- - - that (teaching)(the Quran*) which Allah hath sent down to thee (Muhammad*)". No god ever sent down a book of such sorry quality like the Quran, not to mention revere it in his "home" in Heaven as a "mother book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22).

324 5/49e: "- - - it is Allah's purpose to punish them (non-Muslims*)". See 3/77b above.

325 5/49f: "- - - truly - - -". See 2/2b above.

##326 5/50a: "- - - (the Days of) Ignorance - - -". Believe it or not, but "the Days of Ignorance" or "the Time of Ignorance" is the official and accepted name for the times before Islam in Muslim area. Extra ironic when you know parts of that area - f.x. Egypt and even more so Persia - were far less ignorant before being conquered by culturally primitive Muslim warriors, not to mention that Islam after some time stopped all scientific thinking except what was connected to religion - from 1095 (100 years later in the far west) after having fought it for centuries, and nearly till today there did not come one new idea or thought which could benefit humanity from all the Muslim area. So when was the real Time of Ignorance?

327 5/50b: "- - - faith - - -". = Islam.

328 5/50c: "But who - - - can give better judgment than Allah?". Judging from some unjust sharia laws and some immoral parts of the Islamic moral code: Quite a number of judges.

329 5/51a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

330 5/51b: “Take not the Jews and the Christians (pagans are not even mentioned*) for your friends and protectors.” If people a leader looks upon as (possible) enemies or as possible subjects for attacking and suppression, are made up to look for you like something bad and degenerated and kept at a distance personally, it is much easier for that leader to make his followers believe that “that vermin” deserves to be attacked and killed and raped and suppressed and to have their possessions stolen - especially if the warriors among his followers are permitted to rob and rape and enslave and steal for themselves valuables and women “justly and right“.

And with no intermingling from the outside the leader also greatly reduces the risk of that his subjects meets unwanted ideas or facts. Thus: No friendship, thank you. The method is known from a number of fanatic sects.

331 5/51c: "- - - Jews and Christians - - -". We do not know when the name Jew was coined, but probably after the founding of the Judah country around 900 BC. The word Christians is from the first century AD. Thus we here have 2 historical anomalies - see 4/13d above.

332 5/51d: "And he (the Muslim*) who turns to them (non-Muslims*) (for friendship) is of them." If you take non-Muslims for friends, you are as bad as they. Have you heard words like "discrimination" or "superiority complex" or similar before? It is not strange that Muslims f.x. in the west are reluctant to mingle with non-Muslims. If Christians - who after all has moral codes much closer to the gold standard; "do against others like you want others do against you", said something similar against Muslims in widespread media (like the Quran after all is), what would happen? Not to mention: How would Muslims react?

333 5/51e: "And he (the Muslim*) who turns to them (non-Muslims*) (for friendship) is of them. Verily, Allah guideth not a people unjust (people seeking such friends*)". No comments - and none necessary.

334 5/51f: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

335 5/51g: "- - - Allah guideth not - - -". See 16/107 below".

336 5/51h: "- - - a people unjust - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative and antipathy creating names for non-Muslim.

337 5/51i: "- - - unjust - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

338 5/52a: “Those in whose hearts is a disease - - -”. If you are not a Muslim, your heart has a disease. One of Muhammad's many negative and antipathy creating names for non-Muslim. Comments?

339 5/52b: “Those in whose hearts is a disease - - - (say*): 'We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

340 5/52c: "- - - a decision according to His (Allah's*) Will". According to the Quran Allah decides absolutely everything, and he decides it according to his will and predestined Plan which nobody and nothing can change (so why pray to him about changes in your or others life? - prayers cannot help as Allah's Plan is unchangeable.

341 5/53a: "- - - those who believe - - -". Muslims.

342 5/53b: "All that they (non-Muslims*) do will be in vain, and they will fall into (nothing but) ruin". What non-Muslims do is without value and in the end will come to naught.

343 5/53c: "All that they (non-Muslims*) do will be in vain, and they will fall into (nothing but) ruin". As for Jews and Christians the Bible strongly contradicts this.

344 5/54a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

345 5/54b: "- - - turn back from his (a Muslim's*) Faith - - -". Leave Islam.

346 5/54c: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

347 5/54d: "- - - a people He (Allah*) will love as they will love Him - lowly with the believers, mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the Way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproaches of such as find fault". A mighty pep-talk for warfare. But the same god as you meet in NT and even in OT? - hopeless.

348 5/54e: “- - - fighting in the way of Allah - - -”. Unlike when you fight for Jesus and Yahweh - and many other gods - with your brain and words and good deeds, when you fight for Muhammad and Allah you fight with weapons and wage war and terror, and is paid by loot and rape and slaves - the laudable thing to do according to the Quran. Or - ?

349 5/54f: “- - - fighting in the way of Allah - - -”. You find nothing like this in the Bible. In the OT the Jews were fighting not for the god, but to establish and later defend their country. In NT physical war hardly is accepted at all. One of the many solid proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. And then there are all the other proofs, indicia and indications in addition.

350 5/54g: "- - - the Grace of Allah - - -". See 1/1a above.

351 5/54h: "- - - the Grace of Allah, which He will bestow on whom He pleaseth". This in one of the differences between Yahweh and Allah - Yahweh spend his grace on anybody who wants and qualify, Allah on those he pleases".

352 5/54i: "- - - Allah encompasseth all - - -". Similar often claimed, never proved.

353 5/54j: "- - - He (Allah*) knoweth all thing". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

354 5/55a: "Your (Muslims'*) (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger (Muhammad*), and the (fellowship of) Believers (Muslims*) - - -." Clear message: Non-Muslims are not your real friends - one step on the road to making an "enemy picture".

 

355 5/55b: "- - - Allah, (and*) His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A variant of Muhammad's standard mantra to glue himself to his platform of power - his god.

356 5/55c: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger - - -". See 63/5a below.

357 5/55d: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

358 5/55e: "- - - Believers - - -". = Muslims.

359 5/56a: "- - - those who turn - - - to Allah - - -". Muslims.

360 5/56b: "- - - Allah, (and*) His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A variant of Muhammad's standard mantra to glue himself to his platform of power - his god.

361 5/56c: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger - - -". See 63/5a below.

362 5/56d: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

363 5/56e: "- - - Believers - - -". = Muslims.

364 5/56f: "- - - the Fellowship of Allah that must certainly triumph". Pep-talk.

365 5/56g: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.

366 5/57a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

367 5/57b: “Take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery and a sport - - -”. The words are reasonable - but the main thing is: Do not mingle with people who have other ideas or who know things which shows that something is wrong with the Quran, Muhammad and Islam.

368 5/57c: "- - - those who received the Scriptures before you (Muslims*) - - -". Jews, Christian, Sabeans according to the Quran.

369 5/57d: "- - - those who reject Faith - - -". = One of Muhammad's many negative and distaste inducing names for non-Muslims - in this case perhaps mainly the ones who leave Islam.

370 5/57e: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

371 5/57f: "- - - (indeed) - - -". See 2/2b above.

372 5/58a: "- - - that is because they are a people without understanding - - -". Just this sample of pep-talk is older than Adam and will never become too old - there always will be lots of naive people falling for it - "we intelligent ones know, those stupid do not know" - - - and it is just the least intelligent and least learned ones who most easily are duped by this worn out claim. Besides: Who is the one without understanding? - the one who believes anything told to him, or the one who is able to think things over?

373 5/58b: "- - - a people without understanding - - -". One of Muhammad's many names for non-Muslims.

374 5/58c: "- - - without understanding - - -". See 2/2b above.

375 5/59a: "- - - People of the Book - - -". Jews, Christians and Sabeans (see 2/62f above) according to the Quran.

376 5/59b: "- - - people of the Book - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

377 5/59c: "O People of the Book! Do ye disapprove of us (Muslims*) for no other reason than that we believe in Allah - - -". This was what Muhammad liked to claim - it sounded much better than the real reason: They saw that much was wrong of what he claimed the Bible said. Also see 5/59d+e just below.

378 5/59d: "Do ye ("People of the Book"*) disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah - - -?" No. When Islam is disliked today, it is mainly because of its partly immoral moral code and its inhuman war religion. And we are not a little incredulous about how it is possible not to see that there is no god behind a "holy" book where so much is wrong - it is at least heresy to blame a work of a quality like the contents of the Quran on a named god. Human ability for blindness, naivety and wishful thinking is incredible. Also see 5/59c just above.

379 5/59e: “- - - the revelation (the Quran*) that hath come to us (Muhammad) - - -“. Well, one of the central questions about Islam is if there really were revelations (with that many mistaken facts, etc.) – and if there were: From whom. There are these alternatives:

Revelations from a god – which the Quran proves is not the case, as no god, omniscient or not, had made so many mistaken facts and other mistakes, contradictions, and so much wrong logic, etc.

Or revelations from an impostor – f. ex. the Devil – pretending to be Gabriel. The inhuman and on some points highly immoral war religion Muhammad founded, may indicate that this really is a possibility.

Or something working on Muhammad’s brain (an illness like TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) which easily would explain everything – see BBC “God on the Brain”, 20. March 2003) – and the inhuman and on some points highly immoral religion the highway-man and later warlord Muhammad founded, may indicate that also this really is a possibility. A sick brain. All the mistakes which were in accordance with what one believed was correct science in Arabia is compatible to this alternative.

Or it is all a “scenario” made by a cold and scheming brain – and Muhammad’s inhuman ruthlessness and easily recognized lust for power (see f.x. how he glues himself to Allah) may indicate this. His obvious lust for power may explain the making up of a religion - many a self proclaimed "prophet" with lust for power or money or women have done so through the times (Muhammad at least liked power and women - and riches to attract and keep followers by means of "gifts" or bribes). Even more so all the mistakes which are in accordance with what one believed was correct science in and around Arabia at that time, may indicate this - humans would believe they used facts, supernatural beings of some class had known it was wrong.

A combination of some of the 3 possible points also is possible.

Also see 2/136a+c and 4/47c above and 13/1f below.

380 5/59f: "(the revelation*) which came before (us (Muslims*)) - - -" = the Bible.

381 5/59g: "- - - (perhaps) most of you ("People of the Book") are rebellious and disobedient?" Or perhaps the explanation simply is that Muslims believe in a "holy" book so full of errors, etc., that it is not from a god, which the People of the Book see?

382 5/60a: “Those who incurred the curse of Allah and his wrath, those of some he transformed into apes and swine - - -”. Hardly likely. This needs strong proofs.

383 5/60b: “Those who incurred the curse of Allah and his wrath, those of some he transformed into apes and swine - - -”. Not from the Bible. (This story in reality is from an old legend.)

384 5/60c: (A5/78 – in 2008 edition A5/77): ”- - - those of whom (non-Muslims*) He (Allah*) transformed into apes and swine - - -.” A number of Islamic scholars say this is literally meant – another number that it is just a figure of speech, referring to moral degeneration to the moral level of apes and swine (Mujahid). The real meaning is impossible to decide, but it likely is meant literally, as that is the Quran's normal intention. A “clear and easy to understand” language? What is highly likely is that Muhammad's original listeners in naivety and religious fervor took it in the literal meaning (it is from a legend).

385 5/60d: “Evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

386 5/60e: "- - - the even Path - - -". = the road to Allah and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f above.

387 5/61a: "When they (Jews*) come to thee (Muhammad*), they say: 'We believe' - - -". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

388 5/61b: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

389 5/61c: "But Allah knoweth fully what they hide". Se 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

390 5/62a: “- - - eating of things forbidden.” See 5/42c above.

391 5/62a: (YA771): “’- - - eating of things forbidden.’ Maybe construed in a literal or a figurative sense”. Islam does not know if this is meant literal or figurative.

392 5/62b: “Evil indeed are the things they (Jews and Christians*) do.” No comments, except that you should detest and hate such people. But see 2/2b above.

393 5/62c: “Evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

394 5/63a: "- - - the Rabbis and the doctors of law - - -". 2 historical anomalies. See 4/13d above.

395 5/63b: "- - - sinful words - - -". Unclear - like so much in the Quran - but may refer to meanings not in accordance with the Quran. But are the words in case sinful if the Quran is a made up book?

396 5/63c: “Evil indeed are their (here Jews*) works.” No comments, except that you should detest and hate such people. Hate mongering.

397 5/63d: “Evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

398 5/64a: "The Jews say: 'Allah's hand is tied up". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

399 5/64b:"- - - (blasphemy) - - -". To talk against Allah is not blasphemy unless he exists and really is a dominant god. There nowhere is any clear indication for that this is the case - only Muhammad's words, a man of doubtful moral even according to Islam's central books (read his demands, deeds, introduced rules, etc., not the cheap and glorious words, and you find the reality behind the glossy blind belief), and a man who had much to gain from deceiving his followers.

400 5/64c: "- - - both His (Allah's*) hands are widely outstretched (for giving*) - - -". This only is possible if he exists. (Most of the riches the Muslims got, simply were stolen from the surrounding people).

401 5/64d: “- - - the revelation (the Quran*) - - -“. A book with that many mistakes, etc. is not from an omniscient god. Is it revelations at all? And in case from whom? Also see 2/136a+c, 4/47c and 5/59e above and 13/1f and 15/1b below.

402 5/64e: “- - - the revelation (the Quran*) that cometh to thee (Muhammad*) - - -". Was what Muhammad claimed he received, revelations or something else? And may at least some of it have been made (up) to measure?

403 5/64f: “- - - the revelation (the Quran*) that cometh to thee (Muhammad*) from Allah - - -“. A book with that many mistakes, etc. is not from an omniscient god.

404 5/64g: “- - - the revelation (the Quran*) that cometh to thee (Muhammad*) from Allah increaseth in most of them (non-Muslims - here mainly the Jews*) their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy". Naturally they reacted negatively when told their and Muhammad's god and religion was the same, as they saw how much was deeply different. "Rebellion and blasphemy"? - it was good psychology, though, for Muhammad to use strong negative words.

405 5/64h: “Amongst them (the Jews*) We (Allah*) have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief”. And why should you love them when Allah obviously did dislike them? Allah’s dislike is a good motif and explanation for ruthlessness against them. (Muhammad treated the Jews in and around Medina very ruthless – chased away (because too strong opposition did that he could not kill them in the beginning) a large part, enslaved big groups of women and children and murdered the rest of the survivors – except some who for some years were permitted to live as semi slaves on what used to be their own farms, for a very stiff price. Plus he personally raped and enslaved for his own harem at least two of the women after having murdered or enslaved their families – Rayhana bint Amr and Safijja bint Huayay (he later married Safijja)). Well, the verse is good hate propaganda – and hate is a good background for incitements to war, and for explanations for atrocities.

406 5/64i: "Every time they (here mainly the Jews*) kindle the fire of war - - -". Irony to say the least of it - and a lot of gall - as practically all raids, wars, and armed skirmishes during Muhammad's stay in Medina (82 in all?) were initiated by and aggression from Muhammad and his followers.

407 5/64j: "And Allah loveth not those who do mischief". Whom Allah dislikes naturally is for "us" to detest. On the other hand: Muslims did and do a lot of mischief according to all normal moral rules - what about their relationship to a possible god? - this question is even more urgent if Allah is a made up god and if there exists another, benevolent god somewhere, not liking lies (al-Taqiyya, etc.), stealing, rape, mistreatment of innocents, torture or murder.

408 5/64k: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) (ever) strive to do mischief on earth". Quite a hypocrisy from the man who was involved in may be 82 armed conflicts during his few years in Medina - nearly all of them initiated by himself to gain riches to use for gaining more power and little by little for forcing his new religion on his surroundings.

409 5/65a: "If only the People of the Book had believed - - -". They did believe, and so much that they rather had to flee or be murdered than to leave their religion. But they believed in the Bible, and saw that so much was different in the Quran, that when Muhammad claimed it was the same religion and Yahweh and Allah the same god, something was seriously wrong - it simply was not true. This even more so as also they did not believe in his unfounded claims that the Bible was falsified.

410 5/65b: "- - - the People of the Book - - -". See 2/146a above.

411 5/65c: "- - - people of the Book - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

412 5/65d: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

413 5/65e: "- - - the Gardens of Bliss". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

##414 5/66a: "If only they (Jews and Christians*) had stood by the Law, the Gospel (Muhammad seems to have believed there was only one - he always uses singular*) and all the revelations that was sent to them from their Lord - - -". That was exactly what they did. But the powerful Muhammad said they lied, and power often wins against the truth - at least in the short run (and even 1400 years is "short run" compared to eternity).

But truth has an uncanny tendency to win in the end - at least if it gets known. And the truth about the Quran is getting known.

415 5/66b: "- - - the Law - - - the Gospel - - -". 2 historical anomalies. See 4/13d below.

416 5/66c: (YA775): “- - - they (like good Muslims*) would have enjoyed happiness from every side.” But the literal meaning of the Arab text is: “They would have eaten from above them and from below their feet”. It is clear that it means something positive, but the exact meaning is impossible for anyone to guess, and any interpretation just is guesswork. Clear as blueberry juice at least.

417 5/66d: "- - - the right course - - -". Here is meant the teaching of the Quran. But as the Quran is not from any god, this is likely to be wrong.

418 5/66e: "- - - a course that is evil". Here is told about "the People of the Book". But as they believed in the Bible and in Yahweh - a god even Muhammad admitted existed, even though he mixed him up with Allah - there is a chance that their course was not the evil one.

419 5/66f: “- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

420 5/67a: "O Messenger (Muhammad*)!" See 63/5a below.

421 5/67b: "O Messenger (Muhammad*)!" A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

422 5/67c: “- - - the (message) which hath been sent to thee (Muhammad*) - - -". Was it sent - and in case from whom? - or was it made up? Most self proclaimed prophets through the times have made up their preaching themselves, and often their religions and gods, too.

423 5/67d: “- - - the (message) which hath been sent to thee (Muhammad*) from thy Lord.” There is no chance that a message (the Quran) that full of mistakes, contradictions, wrong logic, unclear language, etc. is from an omniscient god. See 5/59e above.

424 5/67e: "- - - His (Allah's*) Mission". A mission built on a book full of mistakes, etc., is not the mission of an omniscient god. A mission in addition building on a partly immoral moral code and on partly immoral and/or unjust laws also is not the mission of a god and benevolent god. (When you meet propaganda, always throw away the glossy words meant for blinding and cheating, and look for the reality. The reality often is hidden in the demands, the introduced rules and the deeds, and in the Quran there is a long distance between the glossy words and the demands and deeds, etc. - not strange in the only big religion believing in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and even in the use of deceiving and of broken oaths.)

425 5/67f: “For Allah guideth not those (“infidels”) who reject Faith (Islam*).” No, only good Muslims are worth guiding.

426 5/67g: “For Allah guideth not - - -”. No, Allah cannot guide many if he tries to use a guidebook so full of mistakes, etc. like the Quran.

427 5/67h: “For Allah guideth (via the Quran*) not those who reject Faith (Islam*)." The Quran is so full of mistakes, etc. that it is from no god, and consequently no guidebook in religion.

428 5/67i: “- - - those who reject Faith." Muslims.

429 5/67j: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

430 5/68a: "- - - People of the Book - - -". = Mainly Jews and Christians, but see 2/62f above.

431 5/68b: "- - - People of the Book - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d below.

432 5/68c: "Ye (Jews and Christians*) have no ground to stand upon, unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel (Muhammad seems to have believed there was only one - he always uses singular*) and all the revelations that has come to you from your Lord - - -". See 5/66a above. Besides they believed in what according to the Bible were revelations from the Lord Yahweh, and saw that Muhammad's claimed revelations were not from the same Lord.

433 5/68d: "- - - the Law - - - the Gospel - - -". 2 historical anomalies. See 4/13d below.

434 5/68e: "It is the Revelation that commeth to thee (Muhammad*) - - -". Were they really revelations? And in case from whom? As they were from no god - no god makes that many and often stupid errors - there only are these alternatives:

Dark forces - f.x. the Devil.

A sick brain - f.x. TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - like modern medical science suspects.

One or more cold and scheming man/men - f.x. Muhammad.

A combination of two of these.

435 5/68f: "- - - their ("the People of the Book") obstinate rebellion and blasphemy". Very bad people. Stay away from them - or fight them. Characteristics like this leads up to dislike and worse - - - and the possibility for raids against them and suppression or even enslavement or killing, like we see in Islamic history.

436 5/68g: "- - - blasphemy - - -". Doubting in the Quran is not blasphemy unless Allah really exists and is a god, and in addition is reasonably correct described in the Quran.

437 5/68h: “But sorrow thou not over (these) people without a Faith”. 180 degrees opposite of what is the point of view of Yahweh/Jesus. (Luke 15/8-10, Matt. 18/12-14, Luke 15/11-31, Matt. 20/8-13). Yahweh and Allah the same god? Impossible. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

438 5/68i: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

###439 5/69a: "Those who (believe in the Quran) - - -". Muslims.

##440 5/69b: “Those who (believe in the Quran), and those who follows the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabeans – any who believe in Allah (here "included" Yahweh/God*) and the Last day, and work righteousness – on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” This may indicate that also Jews and Christians (and Sabeans - most likely people from the then mainly Christian Sabah/Sheba, but also a couple of other explanations may be possible - see 2/62f above) may go to Paradise. But see 5/69c just below.

441 5/69c: “Those who (believe in the Quran), and those who follows the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabeans – any who believe in Allah (here included Yahweh/God*) and the Last day, and work righteousness – on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.” Contradicted by:

3/85: “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him - - -.” This alone tells the full story.

5/72: “They (Christians*) do blaspheme who say: ‘God is Christ the son of Mary.’ - - - and the Fire will be their abode.” To say that Jesus is divine is to put another god at Allah’s side – the ultimate and unforgivable sin according to 2/225a and 4/116a-c above and 6/106b and 25/18a below.

5/73: “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity - - -.” This was to put two other gods at the side of Allah – two times the ultimate sin.

(3 contradictions).

442 5/69d: "- - - Christians - - - Sabeans - - -". 2 historical anomalies. See 4/13d above.

443 5/69e: "- - - righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

444 5/69f: Grammatical error: Saabbi’uuna should be Sabi’iina. (= Sabians).

445 5/70a: "- - - Children of Israel - - -". This name derives from the new name Jacob got from Yahweh according to the Bible (1. Mos. 32/28). None could understand this before that time - around 1800 BC. A historical anomaly - see 4/13d below.

446 5/70b: "Every time there came to them a Messenger with what they themselves desired not - some (of these) they called impostors, and some they (go so far as to) slay". Wrong. Not every time - and mostly not all the Jews said/did so). And actually a number of the self proclaimed prophets also in Israel were false prophets. They do not figure in the Bible, but the fact is mentioned there. There may have been reasons for why Muhammad did not mention this.

447 5/71a: "They (the Jews*) thought there would be no trial (or punishment); so they became blind and deaf - - -". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

448 5/71b: "_ - - Allah (in mercy) turned to them (the Jews*) - - -". According to the Bible, their god was Yahweh, not Allah.

449 5/71c: "But Allah sees well all that they do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

450 5/72a: “They (Christians*) do blaspheme who say: ‘God is Christ the son of Mary.’ - - - and the Fire will be their abode.” This clearly contradicts – and abrogates:

2/62: “- - - those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabeans any who believe in Allah (Yahweh = Allah according to the Quran*) and the Last Day, and work in righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord - - -.”

5/69: “Those who (believe in the Quran), and those who follows the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabeans – any who believe in Allah (here included Yahweh/God*) and the Last day, and work righteousness – on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.”

(2 abrogations)

(2 contradictions)

451 5/72b: “They (Christians*) do blaspheme who say: ‘God is Christ the son of Mary.’" One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

452 5/72c: “They (Christians*) do blaspheme - - -". Only if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth. And only if Allah exists and in addition is a god.

*453 5/72d: “They do blaspheme who say: ‘God is Christ the son of Mary’”. No Christians say that Yahweh is the son of Mary, Jesus. (Though catholic people use the expression “Mother of God” meaning “Mother of (the holy) Jesus”, but also they clearly know the difference between God/Yahweh and Jesus).

**454 5/72e: "- - - Christ (Jesus*) the son of Mary." See 5/110a below.

**455 5/72f: "- - - Christ (Jesus*) the son of Mary." 2 historical anomalies. See 4/13d below.

##456 5/72g: “But said Christ; ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord‘”. If Jesus had tried to teach about the in Israel known polytheistic god al-Lah from a heathen neighboring country, he had got very few followers and had been quickly killed by the clergy in the religious climate in Israel at that time. This is told by someone not knowing the religious and political situation in Israel at the time of Jesus.

457 5/72h: "Whoever joins other gods with Allah - - -". See 25/18a below.

458 5/72i: "- - - the Garden - - -". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

459 5/72j: "- - - the Fire - - -". Hell.

460 5/72k: "- - - the Fire will be his (non-Muslim's*) abode". See 3/77b above.

461 5/72l: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". "Quran-speak" for non-Muslims normally. Muhammad had a number of discriminating and often unsympathetic names for non-Muslims.

462 5/72m: "For the wrongdoers there will be no one to help". For those of what Muhammad called "wrongdoers" who were Jews or Christians there perhaps is Yahweh.

463 5/73a: “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity”. Our sources tell that the 3 last words does not exist in the Arab edition, but is added by Yusuf Ali. Then the correct text in case ends: “Allah (Yahweh*) is one of three (gods*).” Which obviously is wrong, as Christians only believe in one god. Besides it is a most dubious way of working to make additions to a text without making the readers aware of that it is an addition – f.x. by at least putting the addition in ( ).

464 5/73b: “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity - - -.” Muhammad never understood the trinity - he even believed it consisted of Yahweh, Jesus, and Mary, a mistake no god - agreeing or not agreeing to the Trinity - would have made. But for once there is a possibility that the Quran has a point; the Trinity is formally not a part of the Bible. On the other hand those are the three special ones: Yahweh, Jesus and the Holy Spirit - we may think of them as God, his co-worker and representative, and his errand boy/messenger boy and helper. Trinity or not - those three have a special status according to both the Bible and the Quran (even though the Quran does not agree to which status - it even say the Holy Spirit = the angel Gabriel, which makes anyone really knowing the Bible laugh.) There also is the fact that according to the Bible, Jesus said that he and his father was one - but figuratively meant.

465 5/73c: “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity - - -.” This was to put two other gods at the side of Allah – two times the ultimate sin. This contradicts – and abrogates:

2/62: “- - - those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabeans any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work in righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord - - -.”

2/256: “Let there be no compulsion in religion - - -.”

5/69: “Those who (believe in the Quran), and those who follows the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabeans – any who believe in Allah (here included Yahweh/God*) and the Last day, and work righteousness – on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.”

(3 contradictions).

466 5/73d: "- - - blaspheme - - -". Only if Allah exists, is a god, and is correctly described, and only if in addition Yahweh and Allah is the same god (he must in case be seriously ill mentally), because Christians talk to and about Yahweh, not Allah.

467 5/73e: "- - - there is no god except One God (Allah*)". See 2/255a above and 6/106b and 25/18a below.

468 5/73f: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

469 5/73g: "- - - grievous penalty - - -". See 3/77b above.

470 5/74a: "Why turn they (Christians*) not to Allah - - -?" For the very simple reasons:<(p>

They believed - and believe - in another religion and saw/see that Islam was/is so far away from that religion, that it could not be the same one.

2. They saw that the teachings were so very different, that it impossibly could be the same god, and preferred their own Yahweh, and believed Allah was something made up.

3. They saw that Muhammad was teaching a very different religion - he impossible could be a prophet from Yahweh.

4. They saw that f.x. according to 5.Mos. 18/21 he could be no prophet at all - he did not even make wrong prophesies, he made no real prophesies at all. He consequently - and also because his teachings were wrong - was a false prophet.

5. Muslims like to claim the reason why Jews and Christians did not accept Muhammad, was that Muhammad was no Jew, but that only is a smokescreen to hide and explain away the real reason: Allah could and cannot be the same god as Yahweh - too much and too fundamental parts of the teachings are too deeply different; Muhammad did not represent Yahweh.

471 5/74b: "- - - and seek Allah's forgiveness - - -". Only the victim or a deity - or one with permission from such ones - can forgive. As Jews and Christians did not believe Allah was a real god, they simply did not - and do not - believe he could/can forgive.

472 5/74c: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving - - -". See 1/1a and 5/74b above.

473 5/74d: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1b.

474 5/75a: “Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; - - -”. The Bible says something else – that Jesus called Yahweh his father (this relationship according to our latest leafing through the Bible, is mentioned at least 204 times as “father” + at least 87 times as “son” in the NT - frequently by Jesus himself), and far from always only his spiritual father - and as the Bible is written relatively short time after Jesus’ death, and on this point on the basis of thousands of witnesses who could tell what Jesus said, and protest if the narrators quoted Jesus falsely, it is likely that the Bible is more reliable here, than the Quran. The Quran is written 600 years later, and offers only unfounded statements and claims without any proof or even indicia backing up the claims. This even more so as the only Islamic source for the claims was a man who demanded to be the greatest prophet of all times, something he definitely could not be if Jesus was a relative of Yahweh – and this even more so as Muhammad in reality was not a prophet: He did not have the gift of being able to make prophesies (he did not even claim to or pretend to have it) – perhaps a messenger for someone or something, or an apostle, but not a prophet. And not least: Muhammad clearly had a deplorable moral - easy to see even in the Quran if you omit all the glossy, big words and look for the facts which are told about him.

Also as mentioned Jesus himself frequently called Yahweh his father - and Jesus is reliable also according to the Quran. A sticky fact Islam cannot accept (as said the Quran/Mohammad cannot accept that Jesus may be the son of Yahweh, because then Muhammad is not the greatest of “prophets” – and the defense of Muhammad also is essential, as he in reality was a dubious and immoral character, and all the same all Islam is built only - only - on this man's words).

475 5/75b: “Christ, the son of Mary - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

476 5/75c: "- - - the son of Mary - - -". See 5/110a below.

477 5/75d: "They (Mary and Jesus*) had both to eat their (daily) food." This is intended to be a proof for that they just were ordinary humans - even lowly angels f.x. visiting Abraham did not eat food. (Funny; Muslims in Paradise have to eat - one of their few pass-times and one of their few things to look forward to in the claimed next life - f.x. absolutely no intellectual activity). But on Earth Jesus was born as a physical normal human who needed food. The "proof" thus is of no value. As for Mary: Here Muhammad tries to prove she was not part of the Trinity, as she was a human. Not even the most imbecile Christian ever said she was part of that. We simply are back to the fact that Muhammad did not understand these central parts of Christianity: No-one ever indicated that Mary was part of the Trinity or divine - some say she was holy, but in the meaning "better than ordinary people", not in the meaning "divine", and some do not even say that. As for Jesus; no matter whether one believes he was divine or not, no-one ever indicated that his life here on Earth was in something other than a normal human body. Muhammad is breaking in open doors. And any god had known this. Who made the Quran?

478 5/75e: “- - - Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

479 5/75f: “- - - deluded - - -.” The mistakes, etc. in the Quran makes it an open question who is deluded and who not.

480 5/75g: “- - - they (the non-Muslims*) are deluded away from the truth.” With all the mistaken facts - and perhaps other mistakes - in the Quran, it at best tells only partly the truth. Also see 5/75f just above.

481 5/75h: "- - - the truth!" See 2/2b above and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

482 5/76a. "Will ye (Christians*) worship, besides Allah (Jesus*) - - -". No Christian worships something besides Allah. They do not believe in Allah at all, and worship another god, Yahweh, INSTEAD OF Allah. There is a huge difference between these two concepts. (Oh, we know the Quran claims - and as normal for the Quran without proofs - that Yahweh and Allah is the same god, but their teachings are far too different for that to be true.)

483 5/76b. "Will ye (Christians*) worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you?" The word "something" here must refer to Mary and Jesus in the previous verse. When it comes to Mary and the Catholics, Muhammad here may have a point - saints is not an idea you find in the Bible. (On the other hand they do not pray to a divine Mary, only to what they believe may be a helper to reach the divine.) As for Jesus we are back to the fact that he several places told he could help - - - and to the old fact that science and Islam both clearly has shown that the Bible is not falsified, even though Islam is dependent on this never documented claim for their religion to survive. (If the Bible is not falsified it is ever so clear that then the Quran is a made up - falsified - book, as so much of what it claims the Bible tells or should tell, is not from the Bible.)

484 5/76c: "- - - besides Allah - - -". See 25/18a below.

485 5/76d: "- - - something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you - - -". The ironic fact here is that in all history there is not one - one - proved case of Allah helping or benefitting one single being, human or not. There only are words and claims, both of which are very cheap as long as they do not have to be proved.

486 5/76e: "- - - He (Allah*) is it that heareth and knoweth all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

487 5/76f: "- - - He (Allah*) is it that heareth and knoweth all things". Contradicted by the Bible, which claims the god is Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

488 5/77a: "People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". = Jews, Christians and Sabeans (see 2/62f above).

489 5/77b: "People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d below.

490 5/77c: "- - - trespassing beyond the truth - - -". Once more the claim - but as always only a claim - that the Bible must be falsified, as it differs seriously from the Quran. But science has proved thoroughly that the Bible is not falsified, and the same has Islam done (by being unable to find even one proved falsification among the literally tens of thousands of relevant old manuscripts). It is not the Bible which differs from the Quran, but the Quran which differs from the Bible, to be a bit cryptic.

491 5/77d: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/2b above and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

492 5/77e: "- - - people who went wrong in times gone by - - -". This refers to the claim that many Jews and Christians falsified parts of the Bible so that it became different from what Muhammad claimed was sent down to them from the god - something like the Quran - and thus they led others astray. See 5/77c above.

493 5/77f: "- - - the even way - - -". The road to the Quran's paradise - see 10/9f below. The Quran uses pictures like "the straight way" and "the even way" = the easy way, for this. NT uses "the narrow road" = the difficult road. There is a symbolism here, and not least an indication for that it is from two different god's religions.

494 5/78a: "Curses were pronounced on those of the Children of Israel who rejected Faith (Islam - only Islam is Faith in the Quran*), by the tongue of David and of Jesus - - -". This is wrong, if for no other reason then because there are found no traces of Islam or claims about Muhammad's Allah older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his religion. There f.x. is not a word about curses because of Allah or al-Lah (the name of the pagan Arab god Muhammad took over and renamed Allah) in the Bible - actually there are no traces neither of Allah nor of Muhammad in the Bible (in spite of Islam's claims about the opposite)).

495 5/78b: "- - - the Children of Israel - - -". According to the Bible (1. Mos. 32/28) the Jewish patriarch Jacob who may have lived around 1800 BC, got the name Israel from Yahweh. The expression "Children of Israel" means the descendants of Jacob = the Jews. In this case a historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

496 5/78c: "- - - David - - -". The greatest of the Jewish kings. When it comes to the old names in the Bible - Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. science are unsure if they really have lived. Also for David there is no sure proof for his existence as far as we know, but we are now so near the first written sources, that we understand most scientists believe he is a historical person. He in case lived around and after 1000 BC. In just this case, however, he is a historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

497 5/78d: "- - - Jesus - - -". The name needs no presentation, but we may mention that when they started to use his year of birth as year 1, they made a small mistake - he really was born ca. 4 - 6 years BC. His mentioning in the Quran in just this case, however, is a historical is a historical anomaly.

498 5/78e: "- - - Faith - - -". As normal the Quran means Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran. Here it thus again insinuates that the "pure" teaching (Islam) was falsified by Jews and Christians to become what is told in the Bible. See f.x. 2/130a above.

499 5/78f: "- - - Jesus, the son of Mary - - -". See 5/110a below.

500 5/79a: "Nor did they (Jews and Christians*) (usually) forbid one another the inequities which they committed - - -." Our sources tell that the word "usually" is not in the original Arab text. In that case this sentence is wrong. Even with the word "usually" the sentence is not correct, as they often corrected each other.

501 5/79b: "Nor did they (Jews and Christians*) (usually) forbid one another the inequities which they committed - - -." One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

502 5/79c: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

503 5/79d: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

504 5/80a: “Thou seest many of them (Jews and Christians*) turning in friendship to the unbelievers. - - - (with the result) that Allah’s wrath is on them - - -”. They seek bad company because they do not listen to Muhammad - Jews and Christians are bad. Apartheid propaganda?

505 5/80b: "- - - unbelievers - - -". Non-Muslims - one of Muhammad’s many negative names for them.

506 5/80c: "Evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

507 5/80d: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

508 5/80e: "- - - (the works) which their (non-Muslims*) hands have sent before them - - -". This is an expression you meet some places in the Quran. It simply mean good and bad (here bad) deeds you have done in this life, and which Allah will take into account when he judges you at the Day of Doom.

509 5/80f: "- - - in torment (Hell*) they (non-Muslims*) will abide". See 3/77b above.

510 5/81a: “If only they had believed in Allah, in (Muhammad*) - - - never would they (Jews and Christians*) have taken them (non-Muslims or Pagans*) for friends - - -”. It is just tragic - most religions are today able to live together in peace and reasonable harmony. But Islam is so bent on distaste and superiority complex against all non-Muslims, and on conquering all other religions and suppressing its peoples, that integration is difficult. The only position Islam really can accept, is superiority.

511 5/81b: "If they (Jews, Christians*) had believed in Allah - - -". It is difficult to believe in a religion and a god when you see that so much is wrong that you honestly believe both the religion and the god are made up ones. That things are seriously wrong with the religion is not even belief, but a proved fact backed by many proofs.

512 5/81c: "- - - believed in Allah, in the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -".A variant of Muhammad's main mantra to glue himself to his god and his platform of power.

513 5/81d: “- - - the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -“. But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet was a person who could see at least parts of the unseen, and thus a person who:

Has the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.

Makes prophesies that always or at least mostly come true.

Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for any person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not guess the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking (nearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying, that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen (extra revealing here is that the old Biblical title for a prophet, was "a seer" - one who saw the unseen (f.x. 1. Sam. 9/9)) and also that there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran” (prophesying is a kind of miracle - seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracle connected to Muhammad "except the revelation of the Quran" also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories). Also see 30/40a and 30/46a, and we also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah according to Hadiths (f.x. Al-Bukhari) states that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden or what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet.

Also relevant here is that the original title of the Jewish prophets as mentioned was not "prophet" but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F.x. 1. Sam. 9/9#, 1. Sam. 9/11, 1. Sam. 9/18, 1. Sam. 9/19, 2. Kings. 17/13, 1. Chr. 9/22, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1. Chr. 29/29, 2. Chr. 9/29, 2. Chr. 16/7, 2. Chr.16/10, 2. Chr. 19/2, 2. Chr. 29/25, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side). Muhammad thus so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen".

Many liked - and like - the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for this title - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.

***This is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why.

It also is remarkable that Muhammad relatively seldom used the title "prophet" about himself in the Quran. He mostly used the title "Messenger", even though messenger in reality means an errand-boy (Muslims try to make this title something big and imposing, but this is the meaning of it). "Prophet" on the other hand is a heavy and impressive title telling a lot about the person. May the reason for why he did not use it so often, be that he knew he did not have what it took to merit that title, and was a little careful using it, so as not to provoke questions or comments? (And is this also the reason why Muslims try to pretend that "messenger" is something more impressive and heavy than "prophet"?)

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h below.

514 5/81e: "- - - the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d below.

515 5/81f: "- - - revealed - - -". See 4/47c, 5/59e above.

516 5/81g: "- - - revealed unto him (Muhammad*) - - -". Revealed unto him? -and on case by whom as all the mistakes, contradictions, etc. proves it is from no god? Or made (up) by him?

517 5/81h: "- - - (if they were good Muslims*), never would they have taken them (non-Muslims*) for friends and protectors - - -". A clear and unmistakable message.

518 5/81i: "- - - most of them (non-Muslims*) are rebellious wrongdoers". "Wrongdoers" is one of several not very sympathetic names Muhammad used for "non-Muslims" - here in a strengthened form. It is not strange that Muslims are reluctant to accept non-Muslims or to be integrated in non-Muslim societies. Pretty distaste - and stronger - inducing.

519 5/82a: "Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou (Muhammad/Muslims*) find the Jews and the Pagans, and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, 'We are Christians'." One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

520 5/82b: "- - - Jews - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

521 5/82c: "- - - nearest among them (non-Muslims*) in love to the believers (Muslims*) are (the Christians*) because amongst these are men devoted to learning - - -". The first part may be right, but the reason is wrong: For one thing many (far from all) Christians are very open-minded towards other religions, but the main thing is that few Christians really have studied the Quran and seen what kind of war and hate religion it really is, and what is its official and ultimate goal on Earth - to suppress all others.

522 5/82d: "- - - Christians - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

523 5/83a: "And when they (Christians*) listen to the revelations received by the Messenger (Muhammad*), thou (Muslims*) wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears - - -". Pure propaganda which was possible for Muhammad to use, as there were few Christians in the area, so that Muhammad's followers could not see it was not true. Today it is easy for all and every Muslim to see that Christians are not moved by the contents of the Quran, and especially not the ones who really has studied that book.

524 5/83b: "- - - revelation - - -". See 4/47c and 5/59e above.

525 5/83c: "- - - revelations received by the Messenger (Muhammad) - - -". The messages Muhammad claimed he got, in case were from no god - no god would ever be involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.

526 5/83d: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

527 5/83e: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

528 5/83f: “- - - they (Christians*) recognized the truth (corresponding to the Quran*)”. As said before: With that many mistakes in the Quran, the teachings of Muhammad at best are partly the truth. Besides: Claiming that others believe and accept that the teaching is true, is good psychology - - - as long as it is not too easy to find out that the claim is not true. (What most Christians quickly in reality understood, was that something was really wrong with the new religion.

529 5/83g: "- - - their (Christians*) eyes overflowing with tears - - -". Remembering the real points of view of the Jews in and around Medina (there were few Christians there) and that at this time (632 AD) most of them had had to flee, were made slaves or semi-slaves, or murdered by the many hundreds (some 700 one believe only from the Qurayza tribe) because they refused to become Muslims, one gets a bad taste in the mouth when reading dramatic claims like this. And one wonders what kind of naivety and religious blindness it takes to believe in fairy tales like this when one knows the truth - after all they had taken part in the atrocities and torture and enslaving and murdering themselves! But it makes it easy to understand why Muslims do not see what they really read in the Quran and the Hadiths: Indoctrination by the religion of the parents since baby age, parents and surrounding telling this is true, religious blindness, wishful thinking, a bent moral code, etc.

530 5/83h: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/2b above and 13/1g and 40/75 below. We may add that like so often when the Quran use this and similar words, the contents of the word is contradicted by the Bible. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

531 5/83i: "- - - write us (learned Christians*) down among the witnesses". This may be 100% propaganda, or there may have been a few (most likely the last alternative). As for all the rest this is pure fantasy - - - but good propaganda. (Also today you see the few Christians converting to Islam used for propaganda by Muslims - and denial of the ones converting from Islam to other religions, mainly to the Christian one.)

532 5/83j: "- - - witnesses - - -". In this connection = Muslims.

###533 5/84a: “What cause can we (Muhammad and the people*) have not to believe in Allah - - -?” Well, there are strong answers to that – all the mistakes etc. in the Quran, the inhumanity of Muhammad and Islam, the at some points sick morality of Muhammad, the Quran and Islam, etc., etc., etc. But the main point is that the question is wrong. The correct and relevant question had been: "What cause can we have to believe in Allah?”

##534 5/84b: “What cause can we have not to believe in Allah and the truth (the Quran*) which has come to us - - -?” F.x. because it hardly is the truth - see among others 13/1g and 40/75 below. In addition - to answer the question: There are heavy reasons for not believing in Allah or in the Quran: The fact that the Quran - the basis of the religion - contains so many mistaken facts in a book which claims to be sent down from their god. Then how many mistakes are there in the religious points which are wrong? Is it really sent down from a god, or is it made up by someone here on Earth? And if it is sent down: In that case Allah very clearly is not omniscient - and not benevolent. Or it may be sent from other - darker - forces. Another fact is that Allah is claimed to be a good and benevolent god, whereas the Quran shows he in reality - if he exists - is an unfair god of war liking inhumanities and blood and accepting dishonesty (skip the glorifying big words, and see the realities they hide - or try to hide). Etc.

####And not least: It is difficult to believe in the claimed truth of a religion founder and a religion believing in and practicing dishonesty - al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), deception (practiced by Muhammad himself), broken words/oaths (practices and advised by Muhammad) - how much is true and how much is not in such a religion and in the arguments of its followers?

535 5/84c: “What cause can we have not to believe in Allah and the truth (the Quran*) which has come to us - - -?” Has it come or is it made?

536 5/84d: "- - - the truth (the Quran*) which has come to us (Muhammad*) - - -". With so many mistakes, etc. the Quran at best only is partly the truth. The intended indication in addition is that it is sent down by a god, which is not the case with that many mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc.

537 5/84e: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/2b above and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

538 5/84f: "- - - the company of the righteous - - -". The ones who are to end in Paradise - or already are in Paradise.

 

539 5/84g: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

540 5/85a: Rather similar to 2/25d-g above.

541 5/85b: "- - - Gardens, with rivers flowing underneath - - -". The most frequently used Arabism in the Quran - see 4/13d above.

542 5/85c: "- - - Gardens, with rivers flowing underneath - their (Muslims'*) eternal home". But 11/108c may indicate it is not quite eternal. Islam tries to explain it away with that this in case means that the dwellers there will be moved to an even better Paradise - not too difficult as the Quran's Paradise is little but a poor desert-dweller's picture of an earthly king's life + Allah at a distance - but this is not said in the Quran.

543 5/85d: "Such is the recompense of those who do good". But the Bible tells another and more tempting story about its Paradise.

544 5/85e: "- - - those who do good - - -". Good Muslims.

545 5/85f: "- - - do good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code - a code which too often sins against the gold standard: "Do against others like you want others do against you".

546 5/85g: Un-Arabic word: qissiis - from qshysh, Syriac = “Christian priest”.

547 5/86a: "But those who reject Faith and belie our Signs - they shall be companions of Hell-fire.

As for Jews and Christians, the Bible tells another story.

If so happen that Yahweh is a true god and Allah not, Few if any Muslims will end in Yahweh's Paradise, partly because parts of the Quran's moral code, etc. are so perverted (compare to the "constitution" of true moral: "Do unto others like you want others do unto you"), that persons living according to those rules are not acceptable for Yahweh, and partly because they do not seek him, but another, quite likely made up, god.

548 5/86b: "- - - those who reject Faith - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative and distaste inducing names for non-Muslims.

549 5/86c: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

550 5/86d: “- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

551 5/86e: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) shall be Companions of Hell-fire". See 3/77b.

552 5/86f: "- - - Companions of Hell-fire". Persons who are bound for Hell.

553 5/87a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

554 5/87b: "Make not unlawful the good things which Allah hath made lawful for you (Muslims, people*) - - -". Do not make additional rules making lawful things difficult for you - or prohibiting them (- like the Jews had a tendency to do). In just this case Muhammad talks about food - quite an abrupt jump from belief in Allah and paradise, but the Quran often makes such jumps. Not god literature technique.

555 5/88: “- - - the things which Allah hath provided for you - - -”. A lose statement only built on the unproved presumption that Allah really has provided it, and not nature itself or your own work. Also see 11/7a below.

###556 5/89a: “Allah will not call you to account for where is futile in your oaths - - -" = oaths you just throw around - f.x. in anger or from habits, or for oaths you for other reasons did not mean, does not count, and is no sin for Allah. Quite a different from normal religions. Besides: How can others know when you mean an oath and when not? (Well, in some cases you can guess, but what about all the border-line cases and the cases where it sounds like you mean it?) The Quran and Islam are very special when it comes to breaking oaths and some other kinds of dishonesty (f.x. al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth)) - it is the only of the big religions with such rules for accepted dishonesty, and the only of the big religions which accepts dishonesty, even as a part of the religion/religious life.

###557 5/89b: “Allah will not call you to account for where is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: (if you break such one*) for expiation, feed 10 indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families: or clothe them, or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the (breaking of*) oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths.” In principle: Keep your oaths, at least if you meant them. But if you break them, not much is lost, as it is just to pay expiation, and everything is ok. And if the oath was made without thinking things over, you are not even bound to it or bound to pay expiation for it. Guess if this is different from NT! (- and from most other religions included all the big ones!)

No other of the big religions has dishonesty as an integrated and accepted part of the religion - also here remember al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) - and "war is deceit". Just for the record: Al-Taqiyya and Kitman can be used at least in these cases (for broken oaths there are given no real limitations if the broken oath will give a better result. By implication this also goes for ordinary words and promises, as an oath is something stronger than a normal word or promise):

To save your or others' health or life.

To get out of a tight spot or a dangerous problem.

To make peace in a family.

When it will give a better result than honesty or honoring one’s oath.

To cheat women (should be remembered by girls with Muslim boyfriends wanting sex - or wanting a marriage to get residence permit or work permit in a rich country.)

To deceive opponents/enemies.

To betray enemies.

To secure one’s money (very clear from Hadiths).

To defend Islam. (Compulsory if necessary to succeed.)

To promote Islam. (Compulsory if necessary to succeed.)

But al-Taqiyya is a double-edged sword: In the short run you may cheat and deceive someone – actually also in the long run if the opposite part does not know about this side of Muslims and of Islam, or if he/she is naïve. But in the long run one learns that there is no way to really be sure a Muslim speaks the full truth - or the truth at all - in serious questions. (This also may be a big problem for Muslims telling the truth about something without being believed - they have no reliable way of strengthening their words.)

###558 5/89c: "That is the expiation for the oaths ye (Muslims'*) have sworn (and broken*)". Even though it is advisable to keep your oats, if you break one, it is just to pay expiation, and everything is ok. The Religion of Truth?!? - an ironical joke.

559 5/89d: "Thus doth Allah make clear to you His Signs - - -". This has little meaning, as it does not show to anything making things/"signs" clear. Or maybe it is just what it does, as the word "thus" points to the sentences about permitted lies/broken oaths and to how to be forgiven for such? Deplorable literature.

560 5/89e: “- - - His (Allah's*) Signs - - -“. Invalid as proof for Allah or anything. See 2/39b above.

561 5/90a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

562 5/90b: “Intoxicants and gambling - - - (are*) of Satan’s handiwork: eschew such (abomination) - - -.” Abrogates elegantly – by being stricter:

4/43: “Approach not prayers with a mind befogged (drunk*) - - -.”

And also abrogating other mild verses on alcohol or gambling by being stricter.

563 5/91a: "Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling - - -". Cynical comment: Perhaps correct.

####564 5/91b: "- - - prayer - - -". What is really the mission of prayers in Islam? As Allah already has predestined everything according to his Plan which nobody and nothing can change, there is no meaning in praying and no possible effect of it.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

565 5/92a: "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". The mantra of Muhammad, here in a strong form - and a form very practical for a warlord (surah 5 is from 632 AD and he is not just a robber baron any more, but a warlord.) Obey Muhammad!

566 5/92b: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

567 5/92c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

568 5/92d: "- - - (of evil) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

569 5/92e: "- - - it is Our (Allah's*) Messenger's (Muhammad's*) - - -". With a message (the Quran) that full of mistakes, contradictions, etc., that message - and hence the messenger - is not from any omniscient god.

570 5/92f: "- - - it is Our (Allah's*) Messenger's (Muhammad's*) duty to proclaim (the Message) in the clearest manner". No doubt - at this time (632 AD) Muhammad had long since started to "proclaim" it by the means of weapons and murder."

571 5/92g: "- - -(the Message) - - -". The Quran/Islam.

572 5/93a: "- - - those who believe - - -". = Muslims.

573 5/93b: "- - - deeds of righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. (F.x. one of the best deeds is to go to war and steal and rob and rape and suppress and kill in the name of the good and benevolent god Allah.)

574 5/93c: "- - - there is no blame for what they ate (in the past) - - -". If you ate food prohibited by Islam before you became a Muslim, you will not be blamed for that, as long as you now and in the future do not do it again. The same principle goes for other sins in Islam. The main thought behind is that it was not a sin as long as you did not know it was a sin. You meet this thought more places in the Quran, and this is a main reason why some non-Muslims from before Islam can go to Paradise.

#575 5/93d: "For Allah loveth those who do good". Whenever we see sentences like this and similar, we remember the golden rule for moral: "Do unto others what you want others do unto you". And then we wonder if Allah is able to like Muslims living according to the harsh parts of the Quran's moral rules, and what that in case tells about Allah.

576 5/93e: "- - - do good - - -". See 5/93b above.

577 5/94a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

578 5/94b: "Allah doth but make a trial of you - - -". But WHY does an omniscient, predestining god need to make a trial of you??!! There is no logic in this - not unless the Quran is a made up book, and Muhammad needs an explanation for hardship his followers meet.

579 5/94c: "- - - that He (Allah*) may test who feareth Him unseen - - -". See 94b just above.

580 5/94d: "- - - a grievous penalty". See 3/77b above.

581 5/95a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

582 5/95b: "Kill not game while in the Sacred Precinct or in pilgrim garb - - -". There is nothing like this in the Bible. The Bible also does not demand pilgrimage or pilgrim garb. As the pilgrimage - hajj - is fundamental to Allah and Islam, this is one more 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. And then there are all the other proofs, indicia and indications.

583 5/95c: "- - - Sacred Precincts - - -". The sacred land around Kabah in Mecca.

584 5/95d: "Allah forgives what is past - - -." See 5/93c above. Deeds which were no sins according to your old religion, but are sins according to Islam, are automatically forgiven if you ask Allah for this, if you do not repeat them after you became a Muslim and learnt they were sins".

585 5/95e: "If any of you doth so (kills game intentionally*), the compensation is an offering - - -". As neither the demand for pilgrimage, nor prohibition against hunting during pilgrimage is to be found in the Bible, also this is not to be found there.

 

586 5/95f: "- - - Allah is Exalted - - -". If he exists, and if the Quran in case has described him correctly.

587 5/95g: "- - - Allah is - - - Lord of Retribution". No comments necessary (though you may see 3/77b above).

588 5/96a: "Lawful for you (Muslims) is the pursuit of water game and its use for food - - -". According to the Quran animals of pray are not permitted to eat. Many kinds of fish are animals of pray. The Quran has no comments on this, but from the texts it is reasonable to guess that all kinds of fish are permitted to eat, even if they are animals of prey - the desert dweller Muhammad may simply not have thought such things over. But "normal" animals living in the sea, like whales, seals, dugongs, etc., is a more questionable question: They clearly are animals, and except for the dugong and its close relatives, they as clearly are beasts of pray. The Quran does not at all touch this problem - most likely because Muhammad did not even know about it - - - but any god had known, and also had known that man hunted such animals and deserved to know if it was permitted or a sin to eat them when on pilgrimage. Then who made the Quran?

589 5/96b: "- - - forbidden is the pursuit of land-game - as long as you (Muslims*) are in the Sacred Precinct or in pilgrim garb". See 5/95b above.

590 5/96c: "- - - the Sacred Precincts - - -". See 5/95c above.

591 5/96d: "- - - Allah, to Whom ye (people/Muslims*) shall be gathered back (at the Day of Doom*)". If Allah exists. If he is a god. If he is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth.

592 5/96e: "- - - Allah, to Whom ye (people/Muslims*) shall be gathered back (at the Day of Doom*)". Contradicted by the Bible, which say it is to Yahweh you shall be gathered then. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

593 5/97a: "- - - the Sacred House - - -". The mosque Kabah in Mecca.

594 5/97b: "- - - the Sacred House - - -". Kabah in Mecca is the most holy place on Earth for Allah, and very central to his religion. Yahweh does not mention it at all in the Bible, which he had done if it meant much to him. One more strong indicium for that Yahweh is another god than Allah.

595 5/97c: "- - - the Sacred Months - - -". Months number 1, 7, 11, and 12 were sacred in the old Arab pagan religion - one of the many pagan rules and rites Islam took over - - - even though when the Muslims broke the religious law that fighting was prohibited those months, Muhammad found an excuse for that it was ok - he and his god sometimes were very pragmatic. Also remember that the Islamic year is an artificial construction not following the natural year, and thus the "holy months" slide trough the natural year once every ca. 33 years (100 natural years = ca. 103 Islamic years). In the old Arabia they had extra months now and then to make their year follow the natural year approximately, but Muhammad stopped that.

These are two ("holy" months and artificial year) of the many Arabisms (see 4/13d above) in the Quran.

596 5/97d: "- - - the Sacred Months - - -". This you do not find in the Bible, and it is was of such value to the old culture, that it had been mentioned there if Yahweh had introduced something like this. One more strong indicium for that Yahweh is another god than Allah.

597 5/97e: "- - - Allah hath knowledge of what is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". If he made the Quran, he will get low marks for knowledge.

598 5/97f: "- - - Allah hath knowledge of what is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

599 5/97g: "- - - heavens - - -". See f.x. 2/22c above or 67/5d below.

600 5/97h: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with all things." This is another of Muhammad's mantras, and which served him well: Behave yourself - and obey Muhammad - or Allah sees you and will punish you. Ok if true. Good psychology from a leader liking power if the Quran is made up. Also see 3/77b above.

601 5/97i: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with all things." See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

602 5/98a: "- - - Allah is strict in punishment - - -". See 3/77b above.

603 5/98b: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving - - -". Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and in addition is a god.

604 5/98c: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

605 5/99a: “The Messenger’s (Muhammad’s*) duty is but to proclaim (the Message) - - -.” This verse is abrogated – made invalid - by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256 in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran". (At least 28 abrogations).

606 5/99b: "- - - the Messenger's (Muhammad's*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

607 5/99c: "- - - the Messenger's (Muhammad's*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

608 5/99d: "But Allah knoweth all that ye (humans*) reveal or ye conceal". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

609 5/100a: "- - - things that are bad - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

610 5/100b: "- - - things that are good - - -". See 5/100a just above.

611 5/100c: "- - - ye that understand - - -". This and similar expressions are used in the Quran as name for Muslims, indicating that intelligent persons believe in Islam. A good argument especially talking to the less intelligent ones. Besides: Flattery often works - also see 13/3j below.

612 5/101a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

####613 5/101b: "Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble". Guess if this is a revealing sentence! Do not ask questions - debate - if the result may be something that put question marks to the Quran!! - the criterion is not to find the truth, but not to find anything which may give you reason to question Islam - true or not is not part of the statement. This tells something serious about Muhammad, about the Quran, and about Islam. And most likely a main reason why Islam ended in its intellectually and culturally blind alley, and petrified and stagnant dark ages from around 1100 AD - dark ages they were forced backwards and protesting (f.x. printing was prohibited in Egypt for 300 years, because "it could be used to hurt Islam") out from by ideas, impulses and technical from the west, and by military realities mainly during the last century only. Also see 5/102a below.

614 5/101c: "But if ye (Muslims*) ask about things when the Quran is being revealed, they (the questions*) will be made clear to you". But will the answers be true? And by the way: The Quran often is not even clear.

615 5/101d: "- - -the Quran is being revealed - - -". See 2/136a+c, 4/47c and 5/59e above and 13/1f and 15/1b below.

616 5/101e: "Allah will forgive - - -". Allah only has the power to forgive if he exists and if he in case is a real god.

617 5/101f: "- - - Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing." See 1/1a above.

618 5/102a: "Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith". May be there were good reasons for losing the faith in Islam when they got knowledge? Also see 5/101b above.

619 5/102b: "- - - faith - - -". = Islam.

620 5/103a: This verse lists some pre-Islamic Arab customs - one of the Arabisms in the Quran - see 4/13d above.

621 5/103b: "- - - blasphemers - - -". No-one can be blasphemers against Allah unless he exists and in addition is a god.

622 5/103c: "- - - wisdom - - -". See 26/83a below.

623 5/104a: "- - - what Allah hath revealed (the Quran*) - - -". No god - omniscient or not - has revealed a book with so many mistakes, contradictions, etc., not to mention kept it in his own "home" a revered "mother book" like the Quran claims.

624 5/104b: "- - - revealed - - -". See f.x. 4/47c and 5/59e above.

625 5/104c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

626 5/104d: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

#627 5/104e: "They (non-Muslims*) say: 'Enough for us (non-Muslims*) are the ways we found our fathers following'". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

###628 5/104f: "Enough for us (non-Muslims*) are the ways we found our fathers following". = We non-Muslims prefer to follow the religion of our fathers. A way of thinking which Muhammad found much wanting - - - but which is just what most Muslims of all times have been and are doing; our parents and our surroundings told this religion was the true one and worthy of blind and unthinking belief, and then we follow their beliefs - as they and others say so, it must be the truth.

###629 5/104g: "'Enough for us (non-Muslims*) are the ways we found our fathers following'

What! Even though their fathers were void of knowledge and guidance?". This is exactly the Muslims' position: The reason why they believe in the Quran, is that their parents and everyone else was and is telling them that the tales of Muhammad must be true no matter if Muhammad is reliable or a Baron von Münchausen - a strong and blind belief only.

630 5/104h: "- - - their fathers (non-Muslims*) were void of knowledge and guidance - - -". Many of the people the Arabs conquered had a lot more knowledge than themselves. But Islam only counts religious and related knowledge.

631 5/104i: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 26/83a below.

632 5/104j: "- - - guidance - - -". See 7/182a and 16/107 below.

633 5/105a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Islam - only Islam is belief according to the Quran.

634 5/105b: "- - - if ye (Muslims*) follow the (right) guidance, no hurt can come to you - - -". This may perhaps be correct, but only if you get the right guidance. A book like the Quran with that many mistakes, contradictions, etc. at the very best can be only partly right - and a lot wrong.

635 5/105c: "(If you follow the Quran), no hurt can come to you from those who stray". No comments - and none necessary.

636 5/105d: "(If you follow the Quran), no hurt can come to you from those who stray". But what about from the Quran if there somewhere is a real god - a god Muslims have been prohibited from looking for?

637 5/105e: "- - - those who stray (leave or not enter Islam*)". They only stray if the Quran really is from a god, and if it in addition tells the full truth and only the truth. (+ that the god they believe in instead of Allah - f.x. Yahweh - may be a true one. In that case they definitely do not stray.)

638 5/105f: "- - - those who stray - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

639 5/105g: "The goal for you all (at the Day of Doom*) is to Allah - - -". Only if Allah exists, if he is a major god, if he is behind what the Quran tells, and if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth.

640 5/105h: "The goal for you all (at the Day of Doom*) is to Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which say it is to Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

641 5/105i: "- - - it is He (Allah*) that will show you the truth of all that ye do". He will show you what you have done of good and bad and judge you from that.

642 5/105j: "- - - it is He (Allah*) that will show you the truth of all that ye do". Contradicted by the Bible, which says it is Yahweh who will do this. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

643 5/105k: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/2b above and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

644 5/106a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims - only Islam is belief according to the Quran.

645 5/106b: "When death approaches any of you (Muslims*),(take) witnesses among yourselves when making bequests - - -." Make a will not later than when you feel death is coming to you. Muhammad himself broke this rule, which made considerable troubles. For one thing: Who was to inherit his considerable wealth? (Muslims like to tell that Muhammad died very poor. It simply is not true - and many of them know it, as it is clearly told in Hadiths. He had estates in Medina, Khaybar and Fadak. But he had said - not willed, but at least said - that this was to be given to the religion, and therefore the caliph, Abu Bakr, confiscated it, much to the anger of Muhammad's only living child, Fatime, who wanted the inheritance from her father. But he neither had made rules for his own inheritors, nor for transfer of power or for succession of leaders of Islam, which resulted in that Fatime did not get her inheritance - and that of the 11 first caliphs only one (Abu Bakr) died a natural death - the line of transfer of power was unclear and many wanted that power. The religion of peace!

646 5/106c: "When death approaches any of you (Muslims*),(take) witnesses among yourselves when making bequests - - -." Part of the background for the sharia laws.

647 5/107a: "But if it gets known that these two (witnesses to your will*) were guilty of the sin (of prejury), let two others stand forth in their places - nearest in kin from among those who claim a lawful right: let them swear by Allah: 'We affirm that our witness is truer than that of those two, and that we have not trespassed (beyond the truth): if we did, behold, the wrong be upon us!". Part of the background for the sharia laws.

648 5/107b: (YA813): “- - - from among those who claim a lawful right - - -“. The Arab word “istahaqqa” (= deserved having something – good or evil – attributed to one) gives 2 meanings: (Deserved to be found guilty as he/she*) had committed or was guilty. Or: Had or claimed a lawful right (to property). Clear language?

649 5/108a: "- - - other oaths would be taken after their oaths". Oaths can be broken in Islam according to Muhammad, though if you really meant the oath when you swore it, you have to pay expiation to Allah to be forgiven. All the same: The main rule is that you shall try to keep your oaths. (But that rule is far from absolute).

650 5/108b: "- - - listen (to His (Allah's*) counsel (the Quran*)) - - -". One thing is listening to a book where so much is wrong. Quite another thing is to follow its advice without using ones brain and ones other knowledge, not to mention blindly to do so.

651 5/108c: "- - - Allah guideth not - - -". Allah cannot guide anyone unless he exists - and it is noteworthy that not one single case has ever been reported where Allah provably has guided anyone at all.

652 5/108d: "- - - guideth - - -". See 16/107 below.<(p>

653 5/109a: "One day will Allah gather the Messengers together, and ask: 'What was the response ye received (from men to your teaching)?' They will say: 'We have no knowledge: it is Thou who knowest in full all that is hidden". This is not from the Bible, and there also is nothing similar there. An indication for that Yahweh is not the same god as Allah.

654 5/109b: "- - - it is Thou (Allah*) Who knowest in full all that is hidden". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

655 5/110a "O Jesus the son of Mary!". This is a claimed name you some places find for Jesus in the Quran. The point is to fortify Muhammad's claim that Jesus was not the son of Yahweh (in that case he may be was divine, and in any case clearly was a greater and more central prophet than Muhammad, which Muhammad would not accept).

But officially Jesus was the son of Joseph (his official and formal father - the least you can say about the connection between those two, is that Joseph "de facto" had accepted Jesus as his adopted son). If anyone used a "full name" for him in the very man-dominated Israel, it would be "Jesus son of Joseph" - "Jesus ben Joseph" and not "Jesus ben Mary" ("ben" means "son of" in Hebrew - the same as "bin" in Arab). Or to be quite complete: Jesus is the Greek version of his name. The Hebrew version is Joshua. So to be exact his name was "Joshua ben Joseph".

And to make the picture of Muhammad's problems with Jesus' name complete: Muhammad uses the name Isa for Jesus in the Quran. This is wrong. Isa is the Arab version of Esau (the brother of the Jewish patriarch Jacob). The Arab form for the name Jesus - or Joshua in Hebrew - is Yoshuwa (the spelling may vary a little). Any god had known this - Muhammad obviously not. Who then made the Quran?

Finally: As for Muhammad's never documented claim that Jesus was not the son of Yahweh, we may mention that the name "father" is used is used for Yahweh in this connection at least 204 times in the Bible, and the name "son" for Jesus in the same connection at least 87 times - many of those times by Jesus, a prophet whom also the Quran admits is very reliable.

But an extra point here is that if the Quran and Muhammad claim that Jesus was not the son of Yahweh, like they strongly do to try do to make Muhammad the greatest of prophets, the only alternative is that he was the son of Joseph. Then in a strongly male society like the Hebrew - or the Arab - no son of a married couple would accept to be named after his mother. F.x. Muhammad never was called Muhammad bin Amina (his mother's name was Amina). In this case the only name possible for Jesus - and the only name one honestly could use in the old Israel - was Joshua(Jesus) ben Joseph. Any god had known - but Muhammad needed a twist to be able to claim he himself was the greatest.

656 5/110b "O Jesus the son of Mary!". 2 different historical anomalies. See 4/13d above.

657 5/110c: "- - - I (Allah*) strengthened thee (Jesus*) with the holy spirit - - -". Contradicted by the Bible which tells it was Yahweh who did this. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

658 5/110d: "- - - the holy spirit - - -". The Spirit is mentioned a few times in the Quran, even though Muhammad did not understand it properly. Muslims today often claim that this is just another name for the angel Gabriel, even though this is not said in the Quran - perhaps because Muhammad used to claim it was Gabriel who brought him many of his claimed revelation (though other times he dreamt them), and once it is mentioned that the Holy Spirit brought him some revelations; viola! - the Holy Spirit = Gabriel. The logic is invalid (the most you can say logically, is: "perhaps the Holy Spirit is Gabriel" - there is a long distance from "perhaps" to "is", but you will often see Muslims doing this kind of logically invalid "jumps" to get answers they wish or want. Just keep an eye open and you will see such logically invalid "conclusions" here and there.) No-one who knows the Bible would get that idea, as the Holy Spirit clearly is something special (and also the old Jews knew the difference between an angel and a spirit) - but Islam as normal just claims without any documentation.

**659 5/110e: “I (Allah*) thought thee (Jesus*) - - - the Book - - -". "The Book" here means the Jewish scriptures and (wrongly as they did not exist yet;) the Gospels.

**660 5/110f: “I (Allah*) thought thee (Jesus*) - - - the Gospel”. Wrong. The Gospels did not exist until some 25 - 30 years after Jesus died (the oldest Gospel). See 3/3g-k and 3/48 above.

661 5/110g: "- - - the Gospels - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

662 5/110h: “And behold, thou (the child Jesus*) makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and you brethest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, - - - “. This is not from the Bible. It is a made up story from the made up legends in the made up (apocryphal) Thomas Child Gospel and also mentioned in a couple of the others of the so-called child gospels (also made up legends in reality) - see 3/49b above. Besides: A wonder like this had not been forgotten in the Bible - and especially not by “wrongdoers” wanting to falsify the Bible to make Jesus more holy, like the Quran frequently says/indicates.

##663 5/110i: "And behold, thou (Jesus*) bringest forth the dead by My leave". For Muhammad it was essential to stress that it was not Jesus himself who resurrected the dead ones, but the god. (If it was Jesus himself, he clearly was a superior prophet to Muhammad - and Muhammad wanted to be the greatest). But the main thing here really is that if the Quran tells the truth here, it confirms that Jesus was connected to something supernatural and powerful - a god. For Muhammad and Allah this never and nowhere is proved - not one single time (of course Islam still will claim Allah = Yahweh, but the teachings fundamentally are so different that this only is possible if the god is strongly schizophrenic).

664 5/110j: "- - - Children of Israel - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

665 5/110k: "- - - Clear Signs - - -". There exists no clear sign (Quran-speak for proof) for Allah in all the Quran, and also nowhere else. To be valid proofs, first what the Quran claims are signs (for Allah) must be proved really is made by a god - which never is proved. Then it must be proved that this god is Allah - which also never is proved. Muhammad frequently got requests for proofs, but all he was able to produce, were some fast words and at least some lies (f.x. that proofs/miracles would not make anyone believe anyhow) to explain away "why Allah did not want to give profs."

666 5/110l: "- - - unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad’s many - to Muslims - negative names for non-Muslims.

667 5/111a: "I (Allah*) inspired the Disciples to have faith in Me - - -". According to the Bible this was done by Yahweh.

668 5/111b: "- - - inspired - - -". This word hardly is used in such a connection in the entire Bible. But as Muhammad claimed he got many of his verses/surahs "by inspiration", it was imperative for him to "document" that this was a "normal" way for the god to communicate.

669 5/111c: "- - - faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

670 5/111d: "- - - My (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

671 5/111e: "- - - My (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

672 5/111f: “(the Disciples*) said: “We have faith, and do thou bear witness that we bow to Allah as Muslims”. A made up story - see 3/51a+b for explanation.

673 5/112a: "Behold, the Disciples said: "O Jesus - - - (etc.*)". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

674 5/112b: "O Jesus the son of Mary!" For one thing your nearest co-workers do not use a long and formal name for you. For another see 5/110a above.

675 5/112c: "O Jesus the son of Mary!" 2 different historical anomalies. See 4/3d below.

676 5/112d: (A138 - in 2008 edition A137): “Can thy (Jesus’*) Lord (Yahweh*) send down to us a Table set (with viands) - - -.” This is based on the use of chosen vowels etc. to give the Arab words “hal yastati rabbuka” (something like “is your Sustainer able to”) this meaning. But if you use other letters, etc. – and Hadith tells that close co-workers of Muhammad read it like this (Ali, ibn Abbas, ibn Jabal, Aishah (wife of Muhammad*)) – you may get “hal tastati’u rabaka” (translated from Swedish): “Can you make your Lord send down - - -.” In the first case one questions the god’s ability to make such a miracle. In the second one questions Jesus’ influence with the god, and Jesus’ ability to make the god do such a thing. There is not a little difference here – and even after 1400 years the Islamic scholars do not agree as to what is the correct meaning.

677 5/112e: "- - - faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

678 5/112-115: This story about a table from Heaven is not from the Bible. Some Muslims think it is a mix-up with the "Lord's Prayer" - "give us today our daily bread" - or a mix-up with Jesus feeding many as told in the Bible, but as likely it is a mix-up with the last supper as it only includes his disciples. Or it may be a legend he "borrowed". A miracle like this had not been forgotten by the writers of the Bible, as it was different from his other miracles. Neither had it been omitted by "bad people" falsifying the Bible to strengthen Jesus, especially as it showed a direct connection in the direction (up) they believed the god to be. Also see 5/114b and 5/114d below.

679 5/113a: "They (the disciples*) said: "We only wish - - -". See 5/112a above.

680 5/113b: "- - - and that we ourselves (the disciples*) may be witness to the miracle". Invalid explanation - they had seen plenty of miracles in other connections according to the old books.

681 5/114a: "- - - Jesus the son of Mary - - -". See 5/110a above.

682 5/114b: "- - - Jesus the son of Mary - - -". 2 different historical anomalies. See 4/13d above.

683 5/114c: "O Allah our Lord - - -". Allah or Yahweh? No comment should be necessary.

684 5/114d: “Send us (Jesus and the Disciples*) from heaven a Table set (with viands), - - -”. A made up story - there is no chance that such a miracle which clearly shows Jesus’ connection to Yahweh, would be omitted from the Bible. Not one single chance. Even if Muhammad had been right and Christians had falsified the NT, this is the kind of stories they had added, not omitted. Some Muslims say this may refer a little to “The Prayer of God” - "give us our daily bread" - in the Bible. Much more likely it is a contorted version of the last Easter supper.

The Quran tells nearly nothing about Jesus as a preacher or about his teachings. The main points for Muhammad were that Jesus was a good Muslim and that even though Jesus was a great prophet – and a real prophet according to both the Bible and to the Quran – he in reality was no match to the greatest: Muhammad. Muhammad claimed to be the greatest prophet - - - but never even proved that he was one.

685 5/114e: “- - - Sign - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above. In just this case: A “sign” from a made up - and definitely not proved - story really is a valuable and worthy sign.

686 5/114f: (Jesus said*): “O Allah our Lord! Send us from heaven a Table - - - for - - - a solemn festival and a Sign from Thee - - -”. This is not a story from the Bible. And if it had been true, you can be 100% sure it had been there, as it would be one more solid proof for Jesus' connections to something supernatural. Muslims explains away any discrepancy between the Quran and the Bible with the (as normal for Islam unproved) statement that the Bible is falsified. But if any Christian had wanted to falsify parts of the Bible, it would have been to strengthen Jesus, not to weaken him. A miracle like this had strengthen his esteem a lot, and it never had been omitted if it was true - falsification of the Bible or not. Science believes the tale is inspired by a twisted recollection (Muhammad did not know the Bible well, and especially not NT) of the last supper of Jesus. This in addition to that Jesus had been killed years before if he had been preaching about the known foreign polytheistic god al-Lah (the name changed to Allah by Muhammad).

687 5/115a: "- - - faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

688 5/115b: "- - - a penalty such as I (Allah*) have not inflicted on anyone among all the people". See 3/77b above.

689 5/116a: "O Jesus the son of Mary!". See 5/110a above.

690 5/116b: "- - - Jesus the son of Mary - - -". 2 different historical anomalies. See 4/13d above.

691 5/116c: “Didst thou (Jesus*) say unto men, ‘worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah’?” Jesus was not involved with Allah - see 3/51a for explanation. As for a divine Jesus, that is not explicitly said in the Bible, but many places it is clearly understood that he was (f.x. if Yahweh really was his father in some way, and also all his miracles – some even confirmed by the Quran (see 5/110 above and the complete verse in the Quran) – indicates something). But when it comes to Mary, Islam is right - saints are not a part of the teaching of the Bible (on the other hand also some Muslims have saints, notably the Shiites). But the Quran also is very wrong: No Christian - not one single - prays to Mary as a god, only as a go-between. The position of Jesus is vaguer - he is divine, but no Christian believes there is more than one god.

*692 5/116d: Mohammad believed the Trinity consisted of God/Yahweh, Jesus and Mary. Wrong. Both Muhammad and the Quran were wrong in the extreme when he/they thus believed Mary was part of the Trinity. (It consists (?) of God/Yahweh, Jesus and the Holy Spirit – also called the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of God, or only the Spirit, the Spirit of the Lord, and perhaps a few other names). Muhammad never understood the trinity and he never understood the Holy Spirit, even though he used the Spirit a few times in the Quran – and some Muslims refer to the Holy Spirit in the Quran as another name for the arch angel Gabriel(!) as it is “known” that Gabriel brought surahs and verses, but it is also said in the Quran that the Spirit brought some. (No knower of the Bible would ever get this idea).

693 5/116e: "For Thou (Allah*) knowest in full all that is hidden". See 2/233h above.

694 5/116f: Verse 5/116 is not from the Bible, and there also is nothing similar to it in the Bible.

*695 5/117a: (Jesus said*): “Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord”. A story made up to strengthen Islam. If Jesus had said things like this about the known foreign and pagan god al-Lah, he had had very few followers - - - and had been killed within months by the Jewish clergy. See 3/51a above for further explanation.

696 5/117b: "- - - Thou (Allah*) art a witness to all things". See 2/233b above.

697 5/117c: Verse 5/117 is not from the Bible, and there also is nothing similar to it in the Bible.

698 5/118a: "- - - it Thou (Allah*) dost forgive them (sinners*) - - -". Allah only can forgive if he exists and in addition is a god.

699 5/118b: "- - - Thou (Allah*) art the Exalted in Power - - -". Often claimed, never clearly documented.

700 5/118c: "- - - Thou (Allah*) is* - - - the Wise." Not if the Quran is representative for his wisdom.

701 5/118d: Verse 5/118 is not from the Bible, and there also is nothing similar to it in the Bible.

702 5/119a: Rather similar to 2/25d-j above.

703 5/119b: "- - - the truthful - - -". The good Muslim.

704 5/119c: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

705 5/119d: "- - - Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath - - -". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below - and also the most frequently used Arabism in the Quran.

706 5/119e: "- - - their (Muslims'*) eternal home - - -". But 11/108c may indicate it is not eternal.

707 5/119f: "- - - (the fulfillment of all desires) - - -". The Quran's paradise like described in that book, only satisfy bodily and material desires + not too long distance to the god (for normal good Muslims there are 5 or 6 heavens in between.

708 5/120a: This verse in reality is a repetition of one of Muhammad's mantras: Be good and obedient - also to Muhammad - and Allah will reward you. Be bad and disobedient - also to Muhammad - and Allah will punish you.

709 5/120b: "To Allah belong the dominions of the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved.

710 5/120b: "To Allah belong the dominions of the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth - - -". Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which says it belongs to Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

711 5/120c: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

712 5/120d: "- - - it is He (Allah*) who hath power over all things". Often claimed, never clearly proved.

713 5/120e: "- - - it is He (Allah*) who hath power over all things". Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which says that the powerful is Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

Surah 5: Subtotal 713 + 3434 = 4147 comments.

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For the mistakes also see "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" ( http://www.1000mistakes.com ), and for Jihad: "1000+ points on Jihad and on the greed, lust, distaste-mongering, apartheid-mongering, hate-mongering and war-mongering used building up to Jihad in the Quran and in Hadiths" ( http://www.1000mistakes.com/jihad-holywar/index.php ). And for tit-bits from this page see http://www.1000quran-comments.com .

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#####8/69a-d: "- - - lawful and good - - -". If these words and the context they are taken from ("- - - enjoy what (loot, slaves, and women* + destruction and murder) ye took in war (normally of aggression*), lawful and good - - -") were all you knew about the Quran and Islam, this alone would be enough to remove them from the civilized world, and transfer it to the dark, harsh, and inhuman Medieval ages or earlier. This even more so as this is not "abrogated" (made invalid) by today's Islam, but on the contrary are preached many places all over even today in some Islamic fora and groups and countries. (And even practiced during armed conflicts - Bangladesh, East Timor, East Africa, and Indonesia a "short" time ago. Low intensity active in f.x. Indonesian New Guinea and parts of Africa even now (2010).)

Just remember that most Muslims are ok. Only a minority is militant - 1-2% according to Muslims (but 2% of 1.2 billion = 24 million). Then according to international science some 30% (= some 360 million) are willing to help the militants actively or with money, or at least "understand" them. The rest - the majority - are ok. (But our problem is to know who is who.)

But what is absolutely sure, is that apologists telling that "there are verses in the Quran which can be misused by terrorists", are talking nonsense. According to the Quran it is very clear it is the peaceful Muslims who are not good Muslims, and the activists who are laudable and obeying Muhammad and Allah.

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10/32: "- - - apart from the Truth, what (remains) but error?"

(A6/92 - English 2008 edition A6/93): "- - - it is in the nature of man to regard the beliefs which have been implanted in him(!) from his childhood, and which he now shares with his social environment, as the only true and possible one - - -". This goes for Muslims more than for any other, because the imprinting is much stronger.

"Religious "knowledge" nearly always in reality only is belief - often strong belief, but only belief". (In Islam exactly nothing of any consequence is proved.)

A world dominated by Islam is quite possible - Islam is expanding. Will it end up like North Pakistan or Afghanistan or like Saudi Arabia without oil - or somewhere in between? - and this because of a religion which itself proves that something is seriously wrong with its teaching, and also that there is no god behind its "holy" book (no omniscient god makes mistakes), and thus not behind the religion.

A nice future for our grandchildren?

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Small things to remember:

Surah 6 is a bit hard upon the wishful thinking of Muslims:

In 6/50 Muhammad confirms he cannot see what is hidden - f.x. the future - documenting that he was no prophet - not knowing the future = unable to make prophesies, and a person unable to make prophesies is no prophet. (F.x. 5. Mos. 18/21 - in the same speech of Moses where Islam claims Moses foresees Muhammad when talking about "a prophet like me" - it is told that a prophet is a person making correct prophesies (if not he is a false prophet) - quite an irony when 18/21 indirectly, but clearly tells Muhammad was not even a prophet (he does not even make prophesies) - he only "borrowed that impressive and imposing title. (And among many others 18/2 tells Moses was speaking about Jewish "brothers" - Islam has cherry-picked and twisted 18/15 and 18/18 in an al-Taqiyya.)

Also connected to 6/50;(A6/39): "This denial on the part of the Prophet (Muhammad*) of any claim to supernatural power - - -". This states that Islam admits Muhammad had no supernatural power at all = absolutely no prophet - and no miracles (A6/39 - like other Islamic educated sources - here confirms the miracles claimed in Hadiths, are made up stories).

Then 6/91c: "Who then sent down the Book which Moses brought?" This is intended as a rhetoric question with only one possible answer: The god. But as Moses did not get any book(s) both according to the Bible and according to science, this try to make up a "proof" for that Allah might have sent down the Quran, was a total miss. Any god had known this and not made such a flop. Then who made the Quran?

In connection to 6/106 (6/106b) Allah's very existence is doubted.

In connection to 6/108 "The Message of the Quran" (comment6/93) explains "- - - it is in the nature of man to regard the beliefs which have been implanted in him from childhood, and which he now shares with his social environment, as the only true and possible ones" - which explains in details why Muslims believe in spite of all facts proving something is seriously wrong with the religion.

In connection to 6/148 (comment 6/141 in the same book) Islam has to admit that the claim that Allah decides everything - predestination - is impossible to combine with the claimed free will for man (and without free will it is morally wrong to punish man for sins). But "it all the same must be true, because Allah says so (in the Quran*)" - the ultimate defeat for brain against blind belief.

And in 6/151 may be the most well-known of the mistakes in the Quran accepted by Islam to be a mistake: "You are prohibited from - - - being good to your parents" (well, may be "Mary, sister of Aaron" is even more well-known, but that one is frequently tried explained away).

Finally: To 6/6a there is the comment to the Quran's habit of just claiming and never giving valid proofs for central claims or statements: "It is tempting to quote Christopher Hitchens: 'What can be asserted without evidens can also be dismissed without evidence'" - they have to bring proof to be believed by rational minds.


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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".