1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 41 -- FUSSIAT (Expounded)
20 June 2012
Revelation: Mecca, 616 - 618 AD
(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)
The quotes and comments
001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.
002 41/1: "Ha Mim". This is one of the many surahs which start with - in this case two - Arab letters the meaning of which no-one understands. They are called abbreviated letters. In some cases the letters make a word by design or co-incidence, but the word in those cases has no meaning relevant for that surah. Clear language in the Quran?
003 41/2a: "A revelation - - -". But was it in reality revealed? - and in case by whom? No god was ever involved in a book with so much wrong. Personally we also are reluctant to believe a devil would deliver that kind of quality - he had to know the mistakes would be discovered sooner or later, and then he would lose credence (the only possibility is that the god would not permit him to make the book to lure people unless there were so many and so obvious mistaken facts and other mistakes that it was easy for humans to see the trap and evade it.) The other two possibilities are a mental illness like TLE - temporal Lobe Epilepsy - like modern medical science suspects, or one or more cold, scheming brains.
004 41/2b: “A revelation (the Quran*) from (Allah) - - -”. No god ever sent down a book of a quality like the Quran. See 38/29a-d and 40/75.
005 41/2c: "- - - (Allah), Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, and the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we at least always believe in the demands and deeds - words are too cheap to use and disuse. If you want to find the real Muhammad and the real Allah - if he exists - you will have to overlook the cheap, glorious words and claims, and look for what they demanded and did and what rules and moral and ethical codes they introduced. Deeds, moral codes, etc. tell a reliable truth, glorious words and claims are just that: Cheap words. Even the most brutal and rotten dictator uses them to glorify himself.
*006 41/3a: “A Book (the Quran*) whereof the verses are explained in detail - - -”. Many verses are not explained in detail - see f.x. all the extra explanations that has been necessary concerning Islamic laws.
###007 41/3b: “A Book (the Quran*) whereof the verses are explained in detail - - -”. As mention in 41/3a just above, far from enough details are included. But the words at least make it clear that there are no hidden meanings behind them (unless othervice is specified). This means that when Muslims and Islam explain away mistakes, etc. with that it is not the clear and /or explained meaning which is meant, but some hidden meaning or parable or something behind it, they are wrong. Muslims often try such ways of "explaining" errors, etc. away. Also see 41/3d and 41/3e below
008 41/3c: “A Book (the Quran*) whereof the verses are explained in detail - - -.” Oh, no! They are not explained in detail, according to Islam and Muslims – they are allegories with the meaning hidden, or with a very different meaning, so we must explain it - - - especially if that is the only way to “explain” away errors and mistakes. Also see 3/7 and 11/1 and 41/3b above and 41/3d just below.
009 41/3d: “A Book (the Quran*) whereof the verses are explained in detail - - -.” See 42/3b just above. But also literally the claim is wrong. F. x. all the laws and judicial additions Islam has had to add.
###010 41/3da: "A Book (the Quran*) whereof the verses are explained in detail - - -.” The main and the essential point with this verse, is that it is one of those verses which kills Muslims' nearly innumerable tries to explain away mistakes, etc. by trying to claim it "in reality" means something else than what it is saying. Here - and in f.x. 3/7 and 11/1b - is clearly stated that the verses are explained in detail = they are meaning exactly what they say and explain - which often is wrong. Also see 41/3b above.
Anyone wanting to try to “explain” away difficult points like mistakes or invalid logic or contradictions by calling them allegories etc. should read this sentence. It even is written 4 times and thus a solidly cemented and nailed truth: The Quran is to be understood literally, and search for hidden meanings is only for Allah, and such search only is for the ones “in whose hearts is perversity - - -.” . This is mentioned at least these places: 3/7, 11/1b, 19/97, 26/2, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/17, 54/22, 54/32, and 54/40.
011 41/3e: "A Quran in Arabic - - -". That it was in Arabic meant much to Muhammad, who had felt that Arabs were inferior to Jews and Christians because the Arabs had no holy book. For a god wanting to reach the whole world, however, Arab was a miserable choice. For one thing Arab was a "small" language - understood mainly by Arabs - whereas languages like Latin or Greek or Persian or some others were widely understood languages, especially among learned people. It also was a language spoken mainly by primitive desert nomads. But the main problem was that Arab at that time had not a complete alphabet - it consisted mainly of the consonants only, and the reader had to guess which vowels and signs had been intended. The result was that even today it in very many cases is impossible to know what really was meant with many words and sentences in the Quran. Therefore Islam was forced to decide that all reasonable meanings possible you find in a word or a sentence were "correct" meanings - even if they varied wildly (An example in English which shows the problem: You have the consonants "h" and "s" and know they represent a word. But is the word "hose" or "house" or perhaps "his" or "has"? The result was a large number of varieties of the Quran, depending on which vowels and which signs one later put into the manuscripts). At a time there were at least 14 officially accepted version of the Quran. Today there are two (a fact most Muslims do not even know, because it is something their religious leaders never tells them): The version after Warsh in parts of Africa, and the one after Hafs in the rest of the world. Islam hides the fact that there still are many possible versions of the Quran, by calling it "different ways of reading" - but this expression simply is another way of pronouncing "versions". Had Allah (?) chosen f.x. Greek or Latin or Persian, these problems had not existed, because they had complete alphabets - - - and it had forever been possible to know exactly what Allah (?) said and meant. As it is today, whenever a Muslim - mostly in honest belief because he does not know the history of his own holy book - claims that "the Quran is exactly Allah's words down to the last comma" it in reality is a joke - even though an unintended one - a joke with an extra and also unintended point, as also the comma did not exist in Arab around 650 AD when the Quran was written.
Also as said the book is not very pure Arabic:
The old Arab alphabet as mentioned only had the consonants - it even today is unclear what is the real meaning of many sentences.
The old Arab alphabet did not have the points (“diacritical marks”) used later to mark different letters.
The old Arab alphabet did not have marks like full stop or comma – even though many a Muslim today claims that the Hafs version of the Quran he is reading – or may be the Warsh version if he is from Africa – is an exact copy of Muhammad’s words “down to the last comma”.
The written Arab language and alphabet was not perfected until ca. 900 AD - perfect writing was impossible around 650 AD when the official Quran was made.
But all the same the use of imported words in a book trying to use perfect Arab language as a proof for divine origin, tells that it is not made by an omniscient god - he had not made such mistakes.
We stress that the following samples partly are taken from Internet, as our Arab is not up to that standard. Therefore it must be used carefully, and if you find mistakes, please inform us. It only is meant as a taste - according to experts there are a lot more:
Adam = man or mankind. The correct Arab word: Basharan or insane.
Eden = garden. The correct Arab word: Janna.
Qiyama = resurrection.
Abraham/Ibrahim - a name. The correct Arab equivalent: Abu Raheem.
Pharaoh = king or potentate (also a title). Used 84 times in the Quran.
Malak = angel (2/33)
Iblis - corruption of the Greek word diabolos = devil.
Injil - corruption of the Greek word eua(n)ggelion = Gospel. Correct.
Ahbar = teacher.
Darasa = to find the deepest meanings of the scriptures by exact and thorough studies.
Furquan (also used in Syriac, pwrqn) = to make free, salvation.
Issa or Isa = Esau (brother of the patriarch Jacob). The Quran says it means Jesus. Correct Arab for Jesus: Yeshuwa (close to Hebrew Joshua which is the Hebrew version of the name Jesus).
Jahannam (Gehinnom or Gehenna) = originally the valley of Hennom or Hinnom near Jerusalem, intensely used for Pagan (Baal) sacrifices to fire, and it therefore later gave the name to Hell.
Jannatu Adn = paradise, Garden of Eden (today reckoned by science to have been in south Iraq – if it ever existed).
Malakut = reign, the country of Allah/God. NB: No original Arab word ends with -ut.
Masani = repetition.
Maun = to find sanctuary.
Rabbani = teacher.
Sabt = day of rest (Sabbath).
Sakinat = the presence of Allah/God.
Tabut = ark.
Taghut = mistake.
orah (Taurat) = Jewish holy scriptures, the Torah.
Tufan = deluge
There also are Hebrew words like; heber, sakinah, maoon, turat, jehannim.
Firdaus = the highest or 7. Heaven. Correct Arab: Jannah.
Haroot or Harut = Persian name for angel. Also see “Maroot”.
Hoor = disciple. Correct Arab: Tilmeeth.
Jinn = good or bad demon. Correct Arab: Ruh.
Maroot or Marut = Persian name for angel. May in reality be the Hindu god of the wind.
Sirat = path. Correct Arab: Altareeq.
Syriac (liturgical language used in Eastern Christian churches - derived from Aramaic).
57/12 muhaymin - from mhymn’, Syriac = “the faithful”.
16/102 ruh al-qudus, from rwh.qwdsh’, Syriac = “Holy Spirit”.
20/80 tuur - from t.wr’, Syriac = “mountain”.
52/29 kaahin - from khn, Syriac = “priest” - meaning a pagan soothsayer or diviner (69/47).
There also are f.x. Syriac words like; taboot, tag hoot, zakat, malakout.
012 41/3f: "- - - for people who understand - - -". Psychologically correct soft pressure - who, especially among the naive ones - wants to be outside the ones who understand things? - and as psychologically correct flattery; who - especially among the naive ones - does not like to hear they are among the ones who understand things? Muhammad uses this kind of psychology quite a lot in the Quran - he was intelligent, and he understood people. See 13/3j above.
013 41/4a: "Giving Good News - - -". Including mongering in discrimination and war and promoting stealing/robbing, enslaving, terrorism, rape, lying and even breaking of oaths, torturing, murdering and so on. Yes, good news. Though perhaps we should not judge this verse too harshly, as it was made around 616 - 618 AD while the religion still was a rather peaceful on - Muhammad or Allah did not change it to a war religion until after 622 AD and Muhammad's flight to Medina. Also see 2/97i and 17/9d above and 61/13 below.
014 41/4b: "- - - Admonition - - -". From a book as full of errors, etc. plus partly immoral moral and ethical codes, etc. as the Quran? - a so miserable quality that it is from no god!
015 41/4c: "- - - most of them (non-Muslims opponents of Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
016 41/4d: "- - - most of them (non-Muslims opponents of Muhammad*) turn away - - -". How could this reliably be written in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened? One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:
When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.
The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.
The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".
This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.
And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.
Also see 3/154e, 6/149a, 7/34a, 14/22b, and not least 27/22-26 above.
017 41/4e: "- - - most of them (non-Muslims opponents of Muhammad*) turn away, and so they hear not". The reality was that many understood a lot was wrong in Muhammad's new religion - but it was better psychology to explain the skepticism and disbelief like this.
018 41/5a: "They (opponents of Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
019 41/5b: "They (opponents of Muhammad*) say: 'Our hearts - - -". See 41/4d above.
020 41/5c: "- - - so do thou (non-Muslim Arabs*) (what you wilt) - - -". The plain story later on: This verse is abrogated – made invalid - and contradicted by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 28 abrogations).
021 41/6a: "Say thou (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
022 41/6b: "- - - it has been revealed to me (Muhammad*) by inspiration - - -". To get information by inspiration is a very unreliable way. For one thing even the best person will have problems being sure which of his inspirations really come from an angel, and which from other sources. And for another thing it has to be a man with a strong moral not to be tempted to get "inspirations" solving his personal problems - like Muhammad had them solved several times - - - and neither Muhammad, nor the Quran, nor Islam were/are against lying when there is a reason (al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), breaking of oaths, advocated by Muhammad).
023 41/6c: "- - - revealed - - -". See 41/2a above.
024 41/6d: "- - - your (people's*) God (Allah*) is one God - - -". See 2/165c, 2/255a, 6/106b and 25/18a above
025 41/6e: "- - - ask for His (Allah's*) Forgiveness". Allah can forgive only if he exists and only if he in addition is a god.
026 41/6f: "- - - those who join gods with Allah - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.
027 41/6g: "- - - join gods with Allah - - -". See 2/165c, 2/255a, 6/106b and 25/18a above
028 41/6h: (YA4468): "There is nothing but pity for those who reject Truth - - -". As the Quran with all its errors is not from any god, it at most can be partly the truth - a fact Muslims reject. Does then this sentence tell something about the Muslims?
029 41/7a: "Those who practice not regular Charity, and who even deny the Hereafter". = One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.
030 41/7b: "- - - regular Charity - - -". One of the pluses in the Quran, is its insistence on charity. But the point is blunted by 2 facts: The main thing is not to help others, but to gain merit in Heaven. And: You get as much merit from helping your nearest, as from helping strangers, and then strangers easily end up far down on the priority list. The fairy tale about the poor fisherman who in a storm promised his god to give his biggest fish to the poorest person he knew, if the god saved him, and then gave the fish to his wife, has a very different meaning among Muslims, compared to people from religions or cultures with more normal moral codes.
031 41/8a: "For those who believe and work deeds of righteousness are a reward that will never fail". True only if Allah exists, if he in addition is a major god, and if the Quran in addition has made no mistakes when describing him.
032 41/8b: "- - - those who believe - - -". Muslims.
033 41/8c: "- - - deeds of righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.
034 41/8d: "- - - a reward - - -". Here: The Quran's and Islam's Paradise. See 10/9f above.
035 41/8e: "- - - a reward that will never fail". It will never fail if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth - and if Allah exists and is a major god. It will always fail if not.
036 41/9a: "Say (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
037 41/9b: "- - - Him (Allah*) Who created - - -". Often claimed, never proved - see 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c above.
038 41/9c: “(Allah first*) created the earth in two Days - - -”. Wrong. Earth was far from created first. The universe was created some 13.7 billion years ago – our sun and the Earth some 4.6 billion years ago (or actually 4.567 billion according to the latest numbers) - - - and trillions of stars and most likely plants were created in the more than 9 billion years in between. Any god had known, but Muhammad not. Then who created the Quran?
An extra point: According to 65/12 Allah created no less than 7 (flat) Earths. Hadiths tells they are placed one above the other, are populated(!), and have these names:
In addition there is our world, scientific name Tellus. That makes 8 Earths. But Muslim literature tells that Iblis/the Devil lives in Ajiba, and if Ajoba is named Hell, 65/12 is "correct": 7 Earths + Hell.
039 41/9d: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -”. Wrong. It took the better part of 4.567 billion years to get it like today - and hundreds of millions of years just to make it fit for life.
040 41/9e: "- - - join equals with Him (Allah*) - - -". See 2/165c, 2/255a, 6/106b and 25/18a above
041 41/9f: "He (Allah*) is the Lord of (all) the Worlds (plural and wrong*)". Often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere.
042 41/9g: "He (Allah*) is the Lord of (all) the Worlds (plural and wrong*)". Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the Lord of the World, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
043 41/9h: “- - - (all) the Worlds - - -“. The famous 7 flat Earths of the Quran – one above the other and named, according to f. ex. Al-Bukhari. See 65/12.
###044 41/9-12a: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them (living entities*) nourishment in due proportions, in four Days - - - (and*) So he completed them (the sky*) as seven firmaments, in two Days - - -”. This makes 8 days - very inconsistent and very wrong compared to what the Quran normally says: 6 days. (Not to mention the 4.567 billion years science has found out). One more contradiction. We have been told we have to be very stupid who does not understand that the two first days are included in the next four. We admit that is the only way Islam can try to “explain” this away - but that very clearly is not what the text says. (“The Message of the Quran” has “doctored” the Quran a little (at least in the English translation) saying "two eons" to make the “explanation” not quite so dumb - but only “not quite so”, as Yusuf Ali’s translation is very clear. It also is a typical Muslim "explanation away" - "solving" one part of a problem, just to crash headlong into another; here: How do you place a few eons into 6 or 8 days? You find a number of "explanations" like this in Islam - they "explains" details, but forget the big picture, and the big picture makes a lie or even a joke out of the "explanation". But it partly works, because many Muslims so strongly wants to believe or have so little education - at least in critical thinking - that they do not see the new mistake or they simply are so little used to use their brain for critical thinking, that they are unable to compare the new claim to their own knowledge and thus unable to see that also the new claim is a mistake).
###045 41/9-12b: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them (living beings*) nourishment in due proportions, in four Days - - - (and*) So he completed them (the sky*) as seven firmaments, in two Days - - -”. This makes 8 days - very inconsistent and very wrong compared to what the Quran which all other places says: 6 days. (Not to mention the 4.567 billion years science has found out). One more contradiction.
###046 41/9-12c: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them (living entities*) nourishment in due proportions, in four Days - - - (and*) So he completed them (the sky*) as seven firmaments (plural and wrong*), in two Days - - -”. This makes 8 days - very inconsistent and very wrong compared to what the Quran normally says: 6 days. (Not to mention the 13.7 billion years science has found out - or 4.567 billion years for Earth - or hundreds of millions of years till it got the first primitive life). One more contradiction. We - as said - have been told we have to be very stupid who does not understand that the two first days are included in the next four. We admit that is the only way Islam can try to “explain” this away - but that very clearly is not what the text says. (“The Message of the Quran has “doctored” the Quran a little (at least in the Swedish translation) to make the “explanation” not quite so dumb - but only “not quite so”, as Yusuf Ali’s translation is very clear).
This means that everything was made in 6 or 8 days – a small intern contradiction. But nothing compared with the contradiction reality makes: 13.7 billion years.
047 41/9-12d: These verses tell that Allah created the Earth in 2 days, the mountains and everything on Earth in 4 days and finally the heaven (“the seven firmaments” – plural and wrong) in 2 days. 2 + 4 + 2 = 8 days. But:
7/54: “- - - Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in six Days - - -.”
10/3: “- - -Allah, Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in six Days - - -.”
11/7: “He (Allah*) is it Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in six Days”.
25/59: “He (Allah*) Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth and all that is between, in six days - - -.”
50/38: “We (Allah*) created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth and all between them in six Days - - -.”
57/4: “He (Allah*) is it Who created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in Six Days”.
048 41/10a: “He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm, high above it - - -“. Wrong. The mountains were not set (down) on Earth – they grew up.
049 41/10b: “He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm, high above it - - -“. The Quran claims that without the firm mountains the (flat) Earth could start shaking. In reality it talks about that it could start wobbling and tip around (and thus drop you off). Modern Muslims tries to claim that the Quran means it hinders earthquakes - but even this is wrong, as mountains do not hinder quakes - on the contrary they sometimes are connected to them (For one thing the making of mountains often gives earthquakes, and for another the imbalance which mountains represents - f.x. enlarged by water or snow - sometimes even causes earthquakes.) Any god had known this.
050 41/10c: “He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm - - - - - and measured therein all things to give them (animals or humans?*) nourishment in due proportions, in 4 days - - -”. Wrong. That took millions of years - only the cooling down of the Earth to make any kind of life possible, took at least 300 million years. And the development from the first life to the first "real" animal took some 2.5 - 3.5 billion years (science has believed it took something like one billion years or more before the first primitive life happened, but these last few years they have found that may be it happened a bit earlier). The first "real" animals came in late Pre-Cambrium, in the period some 500 – 600 million years ago that a few years ago was named Ediacarian. (And then animal life “exploded” during the next period named Cambrium.)
051 41/10d: "- - - (Allah do*) give them (all living beings*) nourishment - - -". According to the Quran everything are gifts from Allah. Does nature do and make nothing?
052 41/10e: (YA4473): “- - - those who seek (sustenance)”. But even if the Arab word “sa’ilin” may mean “those who seek”, it also may mean “those who ask or enquires” - - - and then the meaning changes – like so often in the Quran.
053 41/11a: "- - - His (Allah's*) design - - -". Often claimed, never proved.
***054 41/11b: “- - - it (the sky) had been (as) smoke - - -)”. The sky according to Muhammad was something material (the stars were fastened to the lowermost heaven, f.x. - impossible if the heaven was not material) and had to be made from something. But it is wrong. The sky as we see it, is just an optical illusion.
Some Muslims discover the Big Bang and the cloud-like state after that, and in triumph present you for this “proof” of Islam being scientific and correct. But the Big Bang happened 13.7 billion years ago according to science. The cloud-like state lasted for 300ooo – 380ooo years and was not clouds (micro particles floating in gas) but only ionized gas, mainly hydrogen + a little helium. - - And our sun and earth did not coalesce until 9 billion years later – 4.567 billion years ago - and are on top of all 3. generation creations. The connection between the "clouds" after the Big Bang and Earth is highly feeble and has nothing to do with our sky.
More logical but less frequently quoted, are the tales saying the sky was made from the cloud of dust and gas slowly coalescing into the sun, the planets, etc. But that material ended up as the sun, the planets, etc. - an optical illusion like our sky is not made from gas or dust or clouds. It is made from the bending of light in near vacuum only. (And the illusion which makes the night sky seem like a hemisphere is made by our inability to see the 3. dimension at those distances). See 41/11c below.
055 41/11c: “Come ye (Earth and sky*) together - - -”. Earth and sky never were separated in two or more parts which then could come together. (Islam tries to explain that what is meant is gas, mainly H2 – hydrogen. But hydrogen – or other gases - has nothing to do with smoke – any god had known. (Smoke = micro particles floating in gas – without the micro particles no smoke).
***056 41/11d: “He (Allah*) said to it (the sky) and the earth: ’Come ye together - - -’”. The sky as we see it by day is just an optical illusion that is a result of the refraction - bending - of light in the rarefied upper atmosphere - it is blue because blue light bends the least. It simply is physical laws at work - there is no question of “coming together” (and physically impossible).
The night sky is another optical illusion - the day sky and the night sky are not even “made” in the same way. Here we see a "sky" because we are unable to see 3 dimensions at those distances. At night it is if possible even more wrong to talk about things coming together. Any god knew this. Muhammad believed in the local wrong astronomy. Who composed the Quran?
057 41/11e: "They (the sky and the Earth*) said - - -". Animism - a thing you normally find in more primitive religions or in legends and fairy tales.
058 41/11f: “They (the sky and the Earth*) said: ‘We do come (together), in willing obedience.” They not only are thinking and answering; they even have will and obedience.
059 41/11g: Grammatical error: "at’e’een" should be "at’e’atain".
*060 41/12a: “So He (Allah*) completed them as seven firmaments - - -”. (Firmament is another name for the heaven or sky – mainly used for the night sky). But there are no 7 firmaments. All the same you find these claims about 7 heavens/firmaments/tracts in 2/29d+e, 17/44a, 23/17a, 23/86a, 41/12a+b, 65/12a, 67/3a+b and 71/15a+b - all together the Quran mentions "heavens" in plural at least 199 times; there is no doubt the Quran means there are 7 heavens (and as the stars are fastened to the lowermost of them - f. x. 67/5a - they have to be material ones - if not the stars could not be fastened to it). In 67/3 you also are told that the heavens are places one above the other, which means they of course are built successively higher above the Earth - which also is clear from most places in the Quran where the place of the heavens are indicated. Some modern Muslims try to place the heavens in space, deep space included. But among others 67/3 prohibits this, as "up" and "down" ("one above the other") has no meaning as part of the real space.
By the way: 65/12b also claims there are 7 Earths, and gives their names according to Islam.
061 41/12b: “So He (Allah*) created them (heaven(s)*) as seven firmaments (wrong - there only is one*) in two days - - - Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might“. Just look up, and you see the firmament - it may be especially impressive at night. Nature at its most colossal, even though it looks petite from Earth. Did any god make it? Was that god in case Allah? There are few reasons to believe so, and definitely no proofs. And what is 100% sure: It was not made in two days - it all started 13.7 billion years ago according to science, and may be the first stars became visible not much later - - - and the creation is still not completed.
Allah decreed this in the Quran - a most unlucky choice for a “proof, as it is wrong.”
Sometimes our impression is that Muhammad/the Quran behaves like some second rate politicians: They steal arguments and claims, then run in front of people and say they are leading them - in this case leading them to stolen riches, slaves and power. Muhammad/the Quran finds good phenomena and tell that Allah has made them. Only statements, only claims, and only words any “prophet” for any god can use just as cheaply - and sometimes like here 120% wrong. Impressive profs - but for what?
##062 41/12c: "- - - and He (Allah*) assigned to each heaven its duty and command". A debate about the claimed 7 heavens in the Quran is never started by Muslims, and when they get involved in such a debate, they try to get out of it or to explain it away in some fancy way (there exist no real explanation). But as you see here there is absolutely no doubt that Muhammad really told that there are 7 real heavens. And as they were used for practical purposes - f.x. to fasten the stars to, and for placing material humans in Paradise on - included really good Muslims on the higher heavens - the heavens have to be material ones. As wrong as wrong can be - and any god had known this. Then who made the Quran?
063 41/12d: “He (Allah*) assigned to each heaven its duty and command”. How could he do that when there were no 7 heavens?
####064 41/12e: “And We (Allah*) adorned the lower heaven with lights (= stars*) - - -”. This is one of the points Muslims are very reluctant to try to explain, as it is obviously and impossibly wrong - and impossible to “explain” away in any believable manner. We know from old astronomy that the moon and the planets were fastened to different heavens, and that means that the stars have to be between us and the moon (the Quran another place also says that the moon is between the heavens) - at less than some 384ooo km distance - as the stars were fastened to the lowest heaven. In addition to all the other impossibilities, humans would not be even crisps in a millisecond. Once more: Any existing god knew this, Muhammad not. Contradicted by almost anything – except as said: Not by fairy tales. Is Allah non-existing? Or who composed the Quran?
065 41/12f: “- - - and (provided it) (the lowest heaven*) with guard”. We know from other places in the Quran, that this “guard” is stars mistaken for shooting stars used against bad spirits and jinns wanting to spy on the heavens. The only place such “information” fits today, is in fairy tales. Who composed the Quran? Contradiction: See 42/12a just above.
066 41/12g: "(Allah*) the Exalted in Might - - -". Might he in case never have clearly proved.
*067 41/12h: “(Allah is*) full of Knowledge.” Something is wrong. Either Allah is not omniscient - then he may have sent down the Quran. Or he is full of knowledge - omniscient. Then he did not send down a book like the Quran with that many mistakes - see 41/75. If not Allah, then who composed the Quran?
068 41/12i: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 26/83a above.
069 41/13a: "- - - if they (opponents of Muhammad*) turn away, say thou (Muhammad*) - - -". 2 historical anomalies.
070 41/13b: "- - - a stunning Punishment - - -". See 3/77b above.
071 41/13c: "- - - the 'Ad and the Thamud - - -". 2 tribes from Arab folklore - they may or may not have existed in the far past, but are not mentioned in the Bible - who Muhammad claimed (as normal without the slightest proof) were killed by Allah because of sins.
072 41/13d: "- - - the 'Ad and the Thamud - - -". 2 historical anomalies.
073 41/14a: "- - - the messengers came to them (the 'Ad and the Thamud*) - - -". The Quran claims - as normal without any documentation - that all societies all over the world and to all times have been sent messengers preaching about Allah and Islam. The Hadiths mention the number 124ooo through the times. But with the exception of the Jewish ones and Muhammad, not one of them has left a trace anywhere or in any way.
074 41/14b: "Serve none but Allah". It is unclear when this is claimed to have happened, but some time after Noah (likely 5ooo - 6ooo or more years ago), but well before Moses some 1300 - 1400 BC. Neither science, nor Islam has found any traces of anyone worshipping Allah or practicing Islam until after 610 AD, when Muhammad started his mission.
075 41/14c: "They (the 'Ad and the Thamud*) said, 'If our Lord - - -'". See 41/4d above.
076 41/14d: “If our Lord (Allah*) had so pleased, He would certainly have sent down angles (to preach).” There clearly were questions for proofs, but Muhammad - or earlier claimed Arab prophets - never was able to prove anything. Instead he used fast talk, wrong facts, bluffs and glorification of himself and of blind belief - and at least some clear lies.
077 41/14e: Notice how remarkably well these claimed messengers' situation mirrors Muhammad's situation around 616 - 618 AD when this surah was made. You find numbers and numbers of stories in the Quran paralleling Muhammad's own situation at the time the story was told. The tales "informed" his followers and others that Muhammad's situation was normal for messengers and prophets, and by implication that he was a normal messenger, and they also were pep-talks for his followers. True or not is not always essential - the main thing is what you are able to make people believe.
078 41/15a: "- - - the 'Ad - - -". See 41/13b+c above.
079 41/15b: "- - - truth and reason - - -". In this case texts similar to the Quran claimed sent down to the claimed prophet of the tribe 'Ad from Arab folklore. But anything similar to the Quran at best could be partly the truth and reason - too many mistakes, etc.
080 41/15c: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b and 13/1g above.
081 41/15d: "- - - reason - - -". See 2/2b above.
082 41/15e: "Who is superior to us ('Ad*) in strength?" When you read the Quran, you may notice that the people Muhammad claimed Allah had destroyed, normally were claimed to be much superior in strength and riches than the Arabs of Muhammad's time. This made the god more imposing. But really: How impressing is it that a people is strong, when the opponent is a claimed omnipotent god? If a man tramples down a bunch of lilies, it tells little about the man's strength whether the lilies were healthy and strong or undernourished and weak. But naive people not thinking things over, obviously was - and is - impressed by the tales.
083 41/15f: "- - - Allah, Who created them (people*) - - -". This interesting, but never proved claim surfaces a number of times in the Quran - interesting because Allah never was able to prove he was able to create anything at all, whereas Yahweh/Jesus proved this many times if either the Bible or the Quran tells the truth on this point. Also see 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c+e above.
084 41/15g: "- - - Allah - - - was superior to them (the 'Ad*) in strength - - -". The old fact once more: Not unless he existed and was something supernatural.
085 41/15h: "But they ('Ad*) continued to reject Our (Allah's*) Signs!" Naturally - at least if they were among the many who saw that something was seriously wrong in the new religion.
086 41/15i: “- - - Our (Allah's) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.
087 41/16a: “So We (Allah*) sent against them a furious Wind through days (NB: Plural*) of disaster - - -.” ( 69/7 = 6 nights and 7 days.) But:
54/19: “For We (Allah*) sent against them (the people of Ad*) a furious wind, on a Day of violent Disaster.” Here it lasted only one day.
088 41/16b: "- - - the Penalty of the Hereafter (Hell*) - - -". Se 3/77b above.
089 41/17a: "- - - the Thamud - - -". See 41/13b above.
090 41/17b: "- - - the Thamud - - -".
091 41/17c: "- - - We (Allah*) gave them Guidance - - -". If the guidance was similar to in the Quran, it was doubtful guidance in case - fit mainly for robber and war groups or tribes or nations.
092 41/17d: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) preferred blindness - - -". Who are the really blind ones - the ones who blindly believe and who accept more or less anything without checking if it is true, or the ones who refuse to believe blindly because they see something is very wrong?
093 41/18a "But We (Allah*) delivered those who believed - - -". = Sent them to the Quran's Paradise. See 10/9f above.
094 41/18b: "- - - those who believed - - -". Muslims.
085 41/18c: "- - - righteousness". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.
096 41/19a: "On the Day - - -". The Day of Doom.
097 41/19b: "- - - the Fire - - -". Hell.
098 41/20: "- - - witness - - -". The Quran never explains why an omniscient good needs witnesses. Any god would have known this was unnecessary.
099 41/21a: Similar to 41/20 just above.
100 41/21b: "He (Allah*) created you (people*)- - -". See 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c and 41/15f above.
101 41/21c: "- - - unto Him (Allah*) were you (people*) to return". If Allah exists, is a god and is correctly described in the Quran. For the needed resurrection see 7/158i above.
102 41/22a: Similar to 41/20 above.
103 41/22b: "- - - witness - - -". Why does an omniscient god need witnesses?
104 41/23a: "- - - (now) have ye become of those utterly lost!" Only if the Quran i not a made up book, Islam is not a made up religion, and only if the non-Muslim does not believe in a real god - - - and only if there exists a next life.
105 41/23b. "- - - those utterly lost - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims - here after claimed arrival in Hell.
106 41/24a: "- - - the Fire - - -". Hell.
107 41/24b: "- - - the Fire will be a Home for them (non-Muslims*)!" If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth on this point. And as there are so large differences between a good person according to Yahweh compared to Allah's way of thinking, may be Yahweh will intervene for his followers?
108 41/25a: “And We (Allah*) have destined for them intimate companions (of like nature), who made alluring to them what was before them and behind them - - -.” Is this a description of Muslims surrounded by other Muslims telling them how nice and good the Quran's moral, ethical and judicial laws and rules are?.
109 41/25b: (A41/25 - English 2008 edition A42/24): “And We (Allah*) have destined for them intimate companions (of like nature), who made alluring to them (negative things*) - - -.” But the Arab word “quarana/quarin” is better translated with: “We assigned to them (their own evil impulses as their) other self - - -.” There are a lot of “to the last commas” between the two meanings.
110 41/25c: "- - - Jinns - - -". A being "borrowed" from old Arab folklore and pagan religion. In spite of Muhammad's claims of being in the same tradition and the really same religion as the old prophets, not one of the old Jewish prophets has mentioned them. They also are not mentioned other places in the Bible.
111 41/25d: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) are utterly lost". Only if Islam is a true religion and only if the claimed, but never proved god Allah exists - and only if there is/are no other god(s) like f.x. Yahweh.
112 41/26a: "The unbelievers - - -". The non-Muslims.
113 41/26b: "The unbelievers say (to Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
114 41/26c: "The Unbelievers say (to Muhammad*): 'Listen not to this Quran - - -". See 41/4d above.
115 41/27a: "But We (Allah*) will certainly give the Unbelievers a taste of severe Penalty - - -". Only if Allah exists and is a dominant god, and only if he and the claimed Day of Doom are correctly described in the Quran in spite of all its other mistakes, etc.
116 41/27b: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.
117 41/27c: "- - - the Unbelievers - - -". The non-Muslims.
118 41/27d: "- - - severe Penalty - - -". See 3/77b above.
119 41/27e: "- - - and We (Allah*) will requite them for the worst of their (non-Muslims'*) deeds". See 41/25d above.
120 41/27f: "- - - the worst of their (non-Muslims'*) deeds". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
121 41/28a: "Such will be the requital of the enemies of Allah - - -". One of the many, many never proved claims in the Quran - a book not from any god, as no god would deliver a book so full of mistakes, etc.
122 41/28b: "- - - the enemies of Allah - - -". Each and every non-Muslim - one more of Muhammad's many enmity inducing names for non-Muslims. But all is invalid if Allah does not exist or is nothing supernatural.
123 41/28c: "- - - the Fire - - -". Hell.
124 41/28d: "- - - (Hell*) the Eternal Home - - -". But 6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74c, 51/13c, and 78/23 all may indicate that Hell is not quite forever (and 11/108c that also Paradise may not be quite forever), at least not for Muslims who have not qualified for Paradise at once.
125 41/28e: "- - - (Hell is*) a fit requital, for that they (non-Muslims*) were wont to reject Our (Allah's*) Signs". See 41/25d above.
126 41/28f: “- - - Our (Allah's) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39a above.
127 41/29a: "- - - the Unbelievers - - -". The non-Muslims.
128 41/29b: "- - - Jinns - - -". See 41/25c above.
129 41/30a: "- - - those who say, 'Our Lord is Allah'". Muslims.
##130 41/30b: "'Fear ye (Muslims*) not' (they suggest (= this is something happening "now")), 'nor grieve! But receive the Glad Tidings of the Garden (of Bliss), that for which ye were promised!'" (Also see 41/31 and 41/32 below.) Some Muslims claim that the Quran - or really the "mother book" in Heaven which the Quran is an exact copy from - is never made, but has existed since eternity. Here it is proved once more that this claim is not correct: It is angels who are speaking. Which proves that the claimed "mother book" must be younger than the first angels - yes younger than the first humans, as they are speaking to humans - , and the angels have not existed since eternity - actually they are created by Allah from light, according to the Quran. Worse: They are speaking to Muslims, which means that the claimed "mother book" cannot be older than the first Muslims. Worst: The first sure trace from Muslims is from 610 AD. Is 610 AD the age of the oldest parts of the claimed "mother book"? Also see the rest of this verse and the next two ones.
131 41/30c: "- - - the angels descended on them (good Muslims*) (from time to time) - - -". Remember this in the cases where Muhammad explains away his inability to prove Allah or his own connection to a god by f. x. the claim that Allah cannot send angels down to humans, because that will mean the Day of Doom,
132 41/30d: “- - - Glad Tidings - - -.” Wrong. Islam is no glad tiding, except for the ones not suppressed – and really glad only for the ones looking for booty and slaves and stolen riches, and not least for the ones near the top of the pyramid that got – and get – a lot of power in addition. It often is like that in war religions, especially when made to fit a strong and charismatic leader (and his successors), though many war religions have not been as hypocritical as Islam in trying to make its members and others believe it is good and just and humane and benevolent. And well, it may have been glad tidings for the small percentage of people who need a religion to lean on – at least for the possible ones where the old pagan religion was not strong enough. Also see 2/97i and 17/9d above and 61/13 below.
133 41/30e: "- - - the Garden (of Bliss) - - -". The Quran's and Islam's Paradise. See 10/9f above.
##134 41/30f: "- - - the angels continue to descend on them (Muslims*) (from time to time) - - -". A verse to remember each time a Muslim tries to tell you that Allah could not prove his existence to Muhammad and his followers, because that would mean the Day of Doom had arrived (it is said so in the Quran, and you may meet this "explanation" from Muslims).
135 41/31a: The angels continue to speak. See 41/30b above - and this and next beres below.
136 41/31b: “We (the angels or Allah *) are your protector in this life and in the Hereafter.” But contradicted at least by this:
2/107: “And beside Him (Allah*) ye have neither patron nor helper.”
137 41/31c: "- - - therein (Paradise*)shall ye (Muslims*) have all that your soul shall desire; therein shall ye have all that ye ask for". See 10/9f and see if you find all you ask for - nearly all you find are bodily pleasures. On top of that this only is a never proved claim.
138 41/32a: The angels finish their speech in this verse. Also see the two verses above above.
139 41/32b: "- - - a hospitable gift (Paradise*) - - -". If the Quran has told the full truth and only the truth, and if Allah exists and is a god correctly described by the Quran.
140 41/32c: "- - - One (Allah*) Who is Oft-Forgiving - - -". Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god.
141 41/32d: "- - - One (Allah*) Who - - - Most Merciful". Please read the Surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral and ethical codes, and the unjust and/or immoral parts of the sharia laws and see if you agree. When there is divergence between the nice words and the rest, at least we believe much more in reality, actual demands, and in deeds, than in nice words.
142 41/33a: “Who is better in speech than one who calls (men) to Allah, works righteousness, and (is Muslim*)?” Of course “we” - the Muslims - are best. (This may also point to Muhammad only*) Muhammad did not know the word psychology, we think, but he understood people and how to pep them up. But what in reality is the really correct answer - especially as the Quran is not from a god?
143 41/33b: "- - - righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral and unethical moral and ethical codes.
144 41/33c: "I am of those who bow in Islam". = I am a Muslim.
145 41/34a: "Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal". This is food for thinking and philosophy when you look at parts of the Islamic moral code, which often are from bad and unjust to horrible and worse. The only ones unable to see this, are the Muslims, because they have been thought from they were babies that this is what is just and good and according to the benevolent Allah's wishes - like in some other war and terror religions through history and prehistory. Words in the Quran about dark forces making the bad look good, is here very easy to remember.
136 41/34b "- - - Goodness and Evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like these, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral and unethical moral and ethical codes.
147 41/34c: “Repel (Evil) with what is better (Good*); then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate”. This is like taken from Jesus’ words in the NT - - - but this was around 616 – 618 AD, and long before Muhammad and Islam started to change - to become an ethically and morally destroyed robber baron and his convenient religion of theft, rape, destruction and blood. This verse is contradicted and often “killed” by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).
148 41/34d: “Repel (Evil) with what is better (Good*); then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate”. To be friendly towards enemies was good when this was told around 616 – 618 AD - - - but that was before Medina and blood. This verse is abrogated – made invalid - by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 28 abrogations).
##149 41/34e: "Repel (Evil) with what is better: then will he between whom and thee (a Muslim) was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!" This is the essence of one of Jesus' central thoughts. But as far as we can find, it is the only place in the entire Quran we find something like this - it is not central in Islam to say the least of it. The nearest is that it is good in the eyes of Allah if you forgive misdeeds.
150 41/35: "And none will be granted such goodness (the ability to answer bad with good*) except those who exercise patience and self-restraint - none but persons of the greatest good fortune". This is what Jesus recommended for all his followers, not only for the very, very best.
151 41/36a: "And if (at any time) an incitement to discord is made to thee (Muslim*) by the Satan, seek refuge in Allah". In some cases like stealing/robbing, raping, enslaving, suppressing, lying, killing, warmongering, etc. - do a Muslim really need a Satan? - and what are in these cases the difference between Satan and Allah?
152 41/36b: "- - - seek refuge in Allah". This will only mean anything - may be - if Allah exists and is a god.
153 41/36c: "He (Allah*) is the One who hears and knows all things". See 2/233h above.
154 41/37a: “Among His (Allah’s*) Signs are the Night and the Day - - -”. The night and the day are made by the sun and the revolving of the Earth - physical facts at work. If Islam claims the sun and the Earth and the physical laws are made by Allah, they will have to prove it - it is nowhere proved neither in the Quran nor in the Hadiths - cheap words and invalid signs anyone can use, f.x. any priest in any religion: Baal made the sun and makes it rise in the east. Allah can neither unmake it nor make it rise in the west - then Baal is a real god and Allah a false one. It only is cheap words which prove not a thing, except that resorting to such fake arguments are among the hallmarks of cheats, swindlers, and deceivers, which may prove or indicate something or other about the one(s) using such arguments.
155 41/37b: “- - - His (Allah's*) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39 above.
156 41/37c: "- - - the sun and the moon (are signs for Allah*) - - -". A parallel to 41/37a above.
157 41/37d: "- - - adore Allah, Who created them (the sun and the moon*) - - -". The same claim as most religions put forth - and just as reliable, as the Quran is never able to prove anything at all, just claims and words and glorification of blindness in religion (blind belief).
158 41/38a: "- - - (Unbelievers) - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative words for non-Muslims.
159 41/38b: "- - - those who celebrate His (Allah's*) praise - - -". Here: Angels.
160 41/39a: "And among His (Allah's*) Signs is this: thou seest the earth barren and desolate; but when We (Allah*) sends down rain, it is stirred to life - - -". Once more a natural phenomenon Muhammad claims for glorification of or proof for his god - as always without the slightest proof for that it really is Allah who does it - - - just like similar claims from other religions. Islam ONLY is words, not one single proof. Also see 177/a above. And all only on the basis of words from a man even the Quran and other central Islamic books tell was not very reliable plus wanting riches for attracting and keeping followers, and power - - - and women. Bluff?
161 41/39b: “- - - His (Allah's*) Sign(s) - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.
162 41/39c: “He (Allah*) Who gives life to the (dead) earth (by sending rain*)”. Earth which comes alive just by adding water, is not dead - only looks like that. It is alive with seeds and perhaps roots.
163 41/39d: "- - - We (Allah*) send down rain - - -". Allah - or some-one else - or nature? See 11/7a above.
164 41/39e: "Truly - - -". See 2/2b above.
165 41/39f: "Truly, He (Allah*) Who gives life to the (dead) earth - - -". See 41/39a above.
166 41/39g: "Truly, He (Allah*) Who gives life to the (dead) earth can surely give life to (men) who are dead". See 7/158i above.
#167 41/39h: "Truly, He (Allah*) Who gives life to the (dead) earth can surely give life to (men) who are dead". You have to have a lot of blind belief to believe in this - the two things compared are incommensurable (they cannot be compared). The difference between making seeds grow because of water and resurrection of something which really is dead, is too fundamental for comparison. Invalid both argument and logic - and one of the cases where an intelligent man like Muhammad had to know that the logic, and thus everything in the argument, was invalid.
168 41/39i: "For He (Allah*) has power over all things". He in case never has unmistakably demonstrated his power - in Islam everything just is only unproved claims, unproved words, demands for and glorification of blind belief - normally a sure way to be deceived - etc.
169 41/40a: "Those who pervert the Truth in Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -". But what about those who see real mistakes, contradictions, wrong logic, etc. of which there is plenty in the Quran, included in the claimed signs?
170 41/40b: "Those who pervert the Truth in Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -". It is not possible to pervert the truth in something which is wrong or in something which does not exist. (But one can pervert the truth around it, f.x. by claiming something which exists exists, or that something which is wrong, is right. Also see 41/40d below.
**171 41/40c: “Those who pervert the Truth - - -". This normally is one of Muhammad's many distaste or more inducing names for non-Muslims. It normally refers to Jews and Christians and Muhammad's claim that they had perverted the Bible, which he claimed originally was like the Quran - both of which claims have been proved wrong by both science and by Islam (by being unable to find even one clear proof for the claims among tens of thousands of old relevant manuscripts.
**172 41/40d: “Those who pervert the Truth in Our (Allah’s) Signs - - -.” It is not possible to pervert the truth in invalid signs, they are already invalid - not one (with the possible exceptions of a few pointing to another god, Yahweh, taken from the Bible) has any value as signs or proofs, as they without exception are logically invalid, because they all are hanging in the air – just unproven claims - or resting on other invalid - not proved - “statements”, “signs” or “proofs”. Any priest in any religion can say the same about his god(s). A real god would not use invalid “signs” and “proofs”, proofs he had to know would be seen through sooner or later. (Actually it has been seen through long time ago, but the weight of the number of believers and Islam’s rules for social or real murder of the ones thinking “heresy” even if it is the full truth, make it roll on - away from the real god if such one exists, and if Islam is wrong.) Also see 41/40b above.
173 41/40e: “- - - the Truth - - -“. With all these mistakes, etc., the Quran at best is partly true. Also see 13/1g and 40/75 above.
174 41/40f: “- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39 above.
175 41/40g: “Which is better? - he (the non-Muslim*) that is cast into the Fire, or he (the Muslim*) that comes safe through - - -”. Does anyone feel a wisp the word “discrimination”? - or lack of proof?
176 41/40h: “Which is better? - he that is cast into the Fire, or he that comes safe through - - -”. But as the Quran is not from any god - Allah or whoever - who is who?
177 41/40i: "- - - the Fire - - -". Hell.
178 41/40j: "- - - verily - - -". In a book where so much is wrong, words like "verily" cannot be taken at face value unless there are proofs.
179 41/40k: "- - - verily He (Allah*) seeth (clearly) all that ye do". See f.x. 2/233h above.
180 41/40l: "- - - verily He (Allah*) seeth (clearly) all that ye do". Only possible if he exists and in addition is something supernatural.
181 41/41a: "Those who reject the Message - - -". Non-Muslims.
182 41/41b: "And indeed it (the Quran*) is a Book of exalted power". This really needs proofs - especially because of all the errors, etc. in the book, and the fact that it is not from any god - too much is wrong.
183 41/41c: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.
184 41/42a: "No falsehood can approach it (the Quran*) from before or behind it - - -". No falsehood can approach a book full of errors, etc., advocating breaking of even your oaths, advocating betrayal (f.x. the 29 from the peace delegation from Khaybar), advocating and dictated by the man who in reality institutionalized al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc.?!! Whenever there is divergence between nice words and reality, we always believe reality. What is here, is not even a divergence, but a real al-Taqiyya.
#185 41/42b: "No falsehood can approach it (the Quran*) from before or behind it - - -". For one who really knows the Quran - and knows normal moral, ethical, and judicial codes - this stands out like an unintended, black joke.
186 41/42c: "- - - it (the Quran*) is sent down by One (Allah*) Full of Wisdom - - -". Wrong - no god ever sent down a book with so many mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc. It simply is a grave insult and heresy to accuse an omniscient god of having made a book like the Quran.
187 41/42d: “- - - One (Allah*) Full of Wisdom - - -“. The way Allah is manifested in the Quran, he is very far from full of wisdom.
188 41/42e: “- - - Worthy of all Prize.” Is a claimed, but never proved deity that makes so many mistakes worthy of all praise? Hardly. Also see 1/1a above.
###189 41/43a: “Nothing is said to thee (Muhammad*) that was not said to the messengers before thee (Muhammad*) (f.x. to Jesus and the old Jewish prophets*) - - -.” Wrong. As both science and Islam thoroughly have proved that the Bible is not falsified – and especially strong proofs for NT – it is very clear that what Muhammad claimed to have been told, often is far from what the real prophets and patriarchs had been told. And this is strengthened by the fact that it very often is very clear that Muhammad took his “biblical” stories not from the Bible, but from religious legends (often even based on apocryphal scriptures and stories, not the Bible) that circulated in the area, and which Muhammad believed was from the Bible - - - and then later he had only one way out how to explain the errors compared to the real Bible: To claim he was right and the Bible falsified!!!. As for the quotation above, it is not true that nothing was said to Muhammad that was not said to earlier (real) prophets – a fact that Islam even confirms sometimes – f.x. in the statement from Muhammad that he was the first “messenger/prophet” who had got permission from the god to steal and rob and rape, which the god according to the Quran even confirms is “god and lawful”.
To be impolite, but truthful: The Quran's claim here is rubbish.
190 41/43b: "- - - Forgiveness - - -": Allah only can forgive if he exists and in addition is a god.
191 41/43c: "- - - a most grievous Penalty (Hell*)". See 3/77b above.
192 41/44a: "Had We (Allah*) sent this as a Quran - - -". No god has sent the Quran - see 41/42b above.
#193 41/44b: "Had We (Allah*) sent this as a Quran (in a language) other than Arabic- - -". For Muhammad it was of great value to have a claimed holy book in Arabic - he felt this made him "on par" with Jews and Christians in a way. But for a god aiming for all the world, such a language was a stupid choice, partly because of its lack of a complete alphabet - even today nobody knows for sure what really is meant many (some hundreds) places in the book because of the incomplete alphabet Arab had at that time, and partly because of the limited circulation a book in such a language could get, except over long time.
194 41/44c: "- - - a Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.
195 41/44d: "Say (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.
196 41/44e: “It (the Quran*) is a Guide - - -”. A book containing that many mistakes - see 40/75 - is no real guide. Or it is a guide to something inhuman.
197 41/44f: "- - - those who believe - - -".
198 41/44g: "It (the Quran*) is - - - healing - - -". It takes a very special mentality to find healing in a book with such moral, ethical and judicial codes like some of the ones you find in the Quran.
199 41/44h: "- - - those who believe not - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.
##200 41/44i: "- - - blindness - - -". Who are most blind - the ones believing blindly, normally the easiest way to be cheated, and the dream situation for cheaters, deceivers, charlatans, and swindlers, included religious ones - or the ones thinking things over and evaluate if claims and loose words can be true? After all: If there somewhere is a god who has made you, your brain is the second most valuable gift you got, after life itself. Why are so many insulting that possible god by not using his gift, but instead believe blindly no matter how much is wrong?
201 41/45a: “We (Allah*) certainly gave Moses the Book aforetime - - -”. Wrong. Those books were written much later according to science. (Moses according to the Bible only got the 10 commandments in writing. In addition he got the law verbally – parts of what now is “the Book of Moses” (actually the first 5 books in the Bible) – which he himself wrote down later. Nothing else. And as said: Science confirms that the Torah - the Book of Moses - is centuries younger than Moses).
202 41/45b: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.
203 41/45c: "- - - Moses - - -". A historical anomaly.
204 41/45d: "- - - a Word that went forth - - -". Unclear what is meant here. Muslim scholars give different comments, but it all is guesswork.
205 41/45e: "- - - they (the local Jews*) remained in disquietening doubt thereon". One more of the psychologically correct things to tell his followers. The truth was that most of the Jews were so little in doubt, that they preferred to flee or to be killed instead of accepting Muhammad's new religion.
206 41/45f: "- - - disquietening doubt - - -". Wrong. The majority of the local Jews were so little in doubt that Muhammad was wrong, that they later choose to flee or death instead of accepting his new religion. But of course the words sounded nice to his followers.
207 41/46a: "Whoever works righteousness - - -". Normally in the Quran a name for Muslims.
208 41/46b: "- - - righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral and unethical moral and ethical codes.
209 41/46c: "- - - whoever works evil - - -". Normally in the Quran one of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.
210 41/46d: "- - - whoever works evil, it is against his own soul - - -". But what about other souls if he leads them to an invalid or made up religion? a relevant question as the Quran is not from a god - too many mistakes, etc.
211 41/46e: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral and unethical moral and ethical codes.
212 41/46f: "- - - nor is thy (people's*) Lord (Allah*) ever unjust (in the least) to His servants". This is wrong to a high power. F. x. the law that a raped woman shall be seriously punished for unlawful sex if she cannot bring forth 4 male witnesses to the very act, is most likely the most unjust and immoral law which has ever existed in a presumably civilized country. And the fact that a man correctly accusing a woman for unlawful sex, is guilty unto Allah of lying if he cannot produce 4 witnesses, even though an omniscient god should know that he speaks the truth, is nearly as bad.
213 41/46g: "- - - unjust - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code, partly unethical ethical code, partly unjust judicial code, etc.
214 41/46h: "- - - His (Allah's) servants". In the claimed clear and not to be understood language in the Quran, this expression can have 3 - 4 meanings. In this case it seems to mean "all humanity".
125 41/47a: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 26/83a above.
216 41/47b: "The Day - - -". The Day of Doom.
217 41/47c: "To Him (Allah*) is referred the Knowledge of the Hour (of Judgment: He knows all): no date-fruit comes out of its sheath, nor does a female conceive (within her womb) nor bring forth (young), but by His (Allah's*) Knowledge". A number of claims - and like always in the Quran, no essential claim is proved. The claims just are loose words.
218 41/47d: "- - - the Partners - - -". Other gods.
219 41/47e: "- - - the Partners (other gods*) (ye (non-Muslims*) attributed to Me (Allah*)?" See 25/18a above.
220 41/48: "The (deities) they (non-Muslims*) used to invoke aforetime will leave them in the lurch - - -". There remain to disturbing questions:
Is Allah any better - especially if he does not exist? - after all the Quran with all its mistakes is not from any god, and then Islam may be a false religion.
Will f. x. Yahweh - whom the Quran admits exists, even though it wrongly mixes him with Allah - really leave his followers in the lurch? That in case is not in accordance with Jesus' words, and even the Quran says Jesus was reliable.
221 41/49: "- - - he (man*) gives up all hope (and) is lost in despair". Wrong. This is not the nature of all men.
222 41/50a: "- - - sure - - -". See 2/2b above.
223 41/50b: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.
224 41/50c: "- - - the truth - - -". In a book with so much wrong like in the Quran, words like "the truth" cannot be taken at face value without proofs.
225 41/50d: "- - - a severe penalty". See 3/77b above.
226 41/51: "- - - prolonged prayer - - -". What is the idea of prayers in Islam? If everything is predestined long time before, and according to a divine Plan nobody and nothing can change like the Quran states many times, prayers cannot have any effect.
As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not, many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)
227 41/52a: "See ye (non-Muslims*) if the (Revelations) - - -". Were they really revelations? - and in case from whom?
228 41/52b: "See ye (non-Muslims*) if the (Revelations) is (really) from Allah - - -". No god ever sent down a book with that much wrong contents - it would be heresy to claim so.
229 41/52c: "Who is more astray than one who is in a schism far (from any purpose (here Islam*))?" The answer depends on two things: Does Allah exist - and is he in case a major god. And: Do other gods - f. x. Yahweh exist?
230 41/53a: “- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.
231 41/53b: "- - - manifest - - -". See 2/2b above.
#232 41/53b: “- - - this (the Quran*) is the Truth.” See 13/1g and 40/75 above. Also contradicted by the Bible, which tells the Bible is the truth, not the Quran (it is not possible that both can be true - utterly impossible; f.x. NT the gospel of honesty and love, the Surahs from Medina the "gospel" of dishonesty, suppression, apartheid, rape and war. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
233 41/53c: "- - - thy (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) doth witness all things - - -". Why then 2/233h above?
234 41/54a: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.
235 41/54b: "It is He (Allah*) that doth encompass all things!". If he exists. If he is a major god. And If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth about him and his or Muhammad's religion.
Surah 41: Sub-total - 235 + 15.974 = 16.209
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