1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 4 -- An-Nisa (The Women)

Revelation: Medina, 622-624 AD (the first full surah in Medina).

(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)


 

The quotes and comments

001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free, captives and slaves - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, etc., we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are more reliable. Glorifying words are words, demands and deeds are reality. Glorifying words and claims anyone can use and disuse. When you read, read what was demanded, advised and done, and distrust the glorious words - judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 4/1a: “Reverence your Guardian-Lord (Allah*)- - -". He is no guardian if he does not exist or if he is not a major god - Islam will have to prove so. And even if he exists, he is no guardian like the Quran claims unless he is behind the stories in the Quran and the Quran in addition tells the full and only truth about this. And no omniscient god is behind a book so full of mistakes, etc. like the Quran.

003 4/1b: “Reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you (people*) - - -“. Man was not created, according to science, but developed from earlier primates. Besides: Even if man had been created, Islam has never brought a proof for that he was created by a god (not by f.x. a devil), and neither for that the god in case was Allah.

004 4/1c: “- - - created you from a single person - - -“. Man could not come from a single person, there had to be at least 2 – male and female. But even if there was a couple, that would be too little – the DNA variety would be too small for the “tribe” to be viable. Man simply developed little by little – like the Quran – from earlier primates (as for the archaeological Eve and the archaeological Adam whom science talks about, and whom some Muslims disuse trying to “prove” something: See the chapter: “Some wrong arguments – and their answers” in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran".)

005 4/1d: (A4/1): ”- - - created you from a single Person (”nafs”) - - -.” Is this the correct meaning? Or f.x. ”- - - from humankind - - -” (Muhammad ’Abdu)? Or ”- - - from a soul - - -.” Or “- - - from a spirit - - -”? Or ”- - - from a living entity - - -.”? Or ”- - - from a vital principle - - -”? Or “- - - from self - - -.”? Etc. The word ”nafs” is very vague and has many meanings – far from the clear language Muslims claim. At least 7 possible varieties of meaning - "ways of reading". Is this a sample of a god's clear speech?

006 4/1e: "- - - for Allah ever watches over you (Muslims*)". See 4/1a above.

007 4/2a: “To orphans restore their property (when they reach their age) - - -". If you have taken care of the valuables of an orphan, give it back to him or her when they come of age. If you are poor, you can have taken from it for the child’s necessities, but preferably not – and if you have made it grow, then even better. The Quran's treatment of orphans is one of the positive sides with Islam - perhaps because Muhammad lost his father before he was born and his mother when he was 6.

008 4/2b: “To orphans restore their property (when they reach their age), nor substitute (your) worthless things for (their) good ones; and devour not their substance (by mixing it up) with your own. For this is indeed a great sin". One of the verses behind the Sharia laws.

009 4/3a: “If ye (Muslims*) fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice – two or three or four - - -“. Sometimes an ok excuse for a marriage?

#010 4/3b: “If ye (Muslims*) fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice – two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess." This is one of the verses behind the Sharia laws. Actually it is the verse which permits Muslims to have 4 wives (+ slave women and concubines of course).

###011 4/3c: “- - - marry women of your choice, two or three or four - - - or (a captive) that your right hand possesses - - -.” The distance between a poor Muslim and a slave was less than in a similar situation in the Americas – it was acceptable to marry a slave woman. The woman then formally often was given her freedom and was no more a slave – though as the more or less forced wife of a man, her freedom was not necessarily very real. The social position was better though, and she normally kept her freedom if there was a divorce.

#012 4/3d: “- - - marry women of your choice, two or three or four - - -.” This is the verse where the Muslims are told they can have up to 4 wives - and in addition as many concubines and slave women as you want and can afford.

+013 4/3e: (A4/3): “- - - marry women of your choice, two or three or four - - -.” Is this the correct meaning? (Exact literal meaning: “- - - such as are good for you - - “). Or “- - - as are lawful for you - - -“ (Muhammad Asad)? Or (“- - - you must apply the same consideration to the rights and interest of the woman you intend to marry (as to the orphan*) - - -.” (Sa’id ibn Jubair and others)? Or does it simply mean “- - - such as are good for you - - -.”? Here either the Quran or the Muslim scholars have made at least 4 meanings. And these variants also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word there has more than one meaning. Clear language in the Quran?

##014 4/3f: “- - - marry women of your choice, two or three or four - - -.” Guess if this is contradicted by the Bible, which clearly states: Only one wife. This is one of the points where the difference between the Bible and the Quran is so clear and the principles so fundamentally different - this even more so as in Islam a man in addition can have any number of concubines, which the NT does not permit - that this verse singlehanded proves that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. And then there are all the other proofs in addition.

015 4/3g: "- - - deal justly - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is meant in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

016 4/3h: "- - - deal justly with them (your wives*) - - -". This only concerns the material things. It is very clear that Muhammad did not value all his wives similar - f.x. the child Aishah was his favorite wife - and thus such differences are permitted for all Muslims. But their material sustenance shall be equal.

017 4/3i: "- - - (a captive) that your right hand possess". = A slave - this is a common expression for a slave in the Quran.

018 4/3j: "- - - doing injustice - - -". See 4/3g above.

019 4/4a: "And give the woman (on marriage) their dower as a free gift.” Where do you find anything about a dower in NT? The same god?

020 4/4b: "And give the woman (on marriage) their dower as a free gift - - -”. The dower is an essential part of the Muslim marriage ceremony - without a dower the ceremony is not valid. The dower, however, can be just a token one if the man is poor. This is one of the sentences behind the sharia laws.

021 4/4c: “And give the woman (on marriage) their dower as a free gift.” The dower formally is for the woman only to spend. Sometimes it works like this, sometimes it in a way works like that, as the realities of life forces the woman to spend it on her family and daily tasks. Sometimes it does not work like that at all, as there are many ways to pressure a woman in a family to spend it for other things than she herself really wishes. The quote is, however, behind the sharia laws.

022 4/4d: "- - - but if they (your wives*), of their own good pleasure, remit any part

023 4/5a: "To those weak of understanding make not over your property - - -". Do not transfer any of your property to persons with little intelligence - it is likely here is meant mentally retarded. But NB: Mentally retarded should be treated well. Another plus for Islam - just a pity there are few and not too big plusses.

024 4/5b: "To those weak of understanding make not over your property, which Allah hath made a means of support for you, but feed and clothe them therewith, and speak to them words of kindness and justice". One of the verses behind the sharia laws.

025 4/5c: "- - - property, which Allah hath made a means of support for you - - -". Everything you have got is not from your own brain or toil, but it is gifts from Allah. At least according to the Quran.

026 4/5d: "- - - justice". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code and the sometimes unjust sharia laws.

027 4/6a: “Make a trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment in them, release their property to them - - -”. See 4/2 above.

028 4/6b: “Make a trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment in them, release their property to them; but consume it not wastefully, nor in haste against their growing up. If the guardian is affluent, let him claim no remuneration, but if he is poor, let him have for himself what is just and reasonable. When ye release their property to them, take witnesses in their presence - - -". One of the verses behind sharia laws.

029 4/6c: "- - - but all-sufficient is Allah in taking account". Do not try to cheat - Allah will punish you.

030 4/7a: "From what is left by parents and those nearest related there is a share for men and for women - - - a determinated share". There is nothing about determinated shares in the Bible.

031 4/7b: "From what is left by parents and those nearest related there is a share for men and for women - - - a determinated share". This is one of the verses behind the Sharia laws.

032 4/7c: "(From inheritance*) there is a share for men and a share for women - - -". The sharia laws concerning inheritance are in some ways a bit peculiar. One thing is that men inherit the double of women. More peculiar is that each inherits fixed shares which far from always add up to 1. If the share adds up to less than one it is not too big a problem - there are others who like a share. But when they add up to more than 1 = more than the total inheritance - well, then sometimes the lawyers make good money sorting things out to reduce the shares in "correct" ways. See 4/11-12 below.

033 4/8a: "But if at the time of division other relatives, or orphans, or poor, are present, feed them out of the property - - -". One of the verses behind the sharia laws.

034 4/8b: "- - - justice - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral rules.

035 4/9: “Let those (disposing an estate (for an orphan or a widow/children*)) have the same fear in their minds as they would have for their own if they had left a helpless family behind - - -“. This part of Islam – care for orphans – is one part where the ethics and the moral may be did not wither and dies after 622 AD.

036 4/10a: “Those (guardians*) who unjustly eat up the property of orphans, eat up Fire into their own bodies - - -.” It was – and is – a grave sin to disuse the property of an orphan.

037 4/10b: "- - - a blazing Fire". Hell.

038 4/11: “Allah (thus) directs you as regards to your children’s (inheritance): to the male, a proportion equal to that of two females.” One man = two women, like in other cases in Islam (in some cases less - f.x. men decide and men often can do what they want).

039 4/11+12a: The verses about inheritance are far from clear in Islam. Muhammad stated fixed proportions. But the trouble is that those proportions may add up to more than the full value of the property. If there f.x. are these inheritors after a man’s death: 1 wife = 1/8 (3/24), 3 daughters = 2/3 (16/24), 1 father = 1/6 (4/24) and 1 mother = 1/6 (4/24). If you add these you will see that they are to inherit 27/24, which is mathematically and practically impossible. Or if a man dies and leaves only a sister and a brother: The sister gets ½ and the brother the double of what the sister gets = 3/2, which is an absurd joke. And what if a man had 2 wives, one with a child and the other not? Does the one with child get 1/8 and the other ¼? Etc. Juridical problems concerning inheritance are complicated under Islam because of these mistakes. But the shares are said to be ordained by Allah, the All-knowing!!!

040 4/11+12b: These verses are among the ones behind the sharia laws. Also see 4/11-12a just above. There is nothing similar in the Bible.

041 4/12a: (YA520): “- - - Their share is a fourth - - -.” But the Arab word used here “kalalah” had no fixed meaning at the time of Muhammad (it is one of the 3 words Umar wished Muhammad had defined before his death – the other two being “khilafah” and “riba” = usury). Has Islam guessed correctly? Nobody knows. Allah (?) uses a distinct and clear language impossible not to understand, and the claimed clear and not to be misunderstood language in the Quran, is claimed to be a proof for that the book is from a god. Any comments?

042 4/12b: "Thus is it (the inheritance law in 4/11 and 4/12*) ordained by Allah - - -". As it is ordered by Allah, it is inflexible and forever, and as the shares often does not add up to 1, they have made many a lawyer rich. Not to mention that as the shares often do not add up to 1, it is clear the rules are not made by a god - an omniscient god knows his mathematics.

043 4/12c: "- - - Allah is All-knowing, All-wise". Not if he made the inheritance laws in sharia, and definitely not if he made the Quran.

044 4/12d: (In the last edition of this book): "- - - Allah is - - - Most Forbearing - - -". See 1/1a above.

045 4/13a: "Those are limits set by Allah (when inheriting*) - - -." Which is a pity, because in some cases the omniscient Allah has added his fractions - the shares - incorrect; they do not add up to 1. In the cases they add up to less than 1 = less than the total inheritance, the solution is elegantly given: The rest is inherited by other relatives. The real trouble is when the fractions add up to more than 1 = more than the total inheritance. As far as we have found out the maximum mistake gives the sum of the fractions = 1.5 - the inheritance f. ex. is 1 million, and the fractions add up to 1,5 million! - an interesting situation, and work for Islamic lawyers. (The quotation instead may refer to the rest of verse 4/13, but in that case the first word should have been "these").

046 4/13b: "- - - those who obey Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muslims.

047 4/13ca: "- - - those who obey Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) will be admitted (to Paradise*) - - -". Strongly contradicted by the Bible, and especially by NT. Muhammad's and his Quran's religion of war and partly immoral moral code, etc. does not qualify for Yahweh's Paradise, and NT's religion of love hardly qualifies for the Paradise of the war religion of the Quran - on of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god.

048 4/13cb: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his god and platform of power.

049 4/13cd: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". To believe that an omniscient god sent a messenger with a teaching so full of mistakes, etc. like Muhammad and his Quran, we need strong proofs.

050 4/13ce: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

051 4/13d: "- - - Gardens with rivers flowing beneath - - -". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below. Also typical is the central value given to water - valuable and a dream situation for desert dwellers. (For the sake of convenience, we call such local connections, marks or values, etc. "Arabism" as they in the Quran describes the situation in and around Arabia - and typical for the Quran there is no other climatic or other local characteristics than what you meet in dry and hot places used as background in the book, except for the corresponding dreams people living in such places had about what would be pleasant or a paradise. Any god had known about the rain forests, the pleasant summer sun of 60 - 70 degrees latitude, the unpleasant drizzle of winter England, the cold of Siberia, etc., whereas Muhammad obviously did not know about this. Did an omniscient god create his own holy book in such a way that only a small part of his intended followers could recognize their own life and situation, and all the rest would feel like outsiders or even sometimes not understand what was meant? - or did someone with little knowledge of what was the reality outside what we now call the Middle East compose it?). The above mentioned is the most frequently used Arabism in the Quran, but there are many others - f.x. things found in dry countries or for the area in or around Arabia, the total dominance of Muhammad and of his period of time, things which happened to and around Muhammad and his followers, etc., etc., in a book claimed sent down to all prophets in all times (124ooo and more according to Hadiths) and all places on Earth. Or to be more exact: They all got their copy of the claimed "mother book" which Allah and his angels revered in Heaven, and which also the Quran was a copy of. But how many from Greenland or Siberia or the rain forests in Brazil or Congo would understand the Arabisms in their copy of the "mother book"/Quran, which necessarily had to be similar to Muhammad's Quran as they were copies of the same claimed "mother book"? Not to mention how many hundreds and thousands of years earlier would understand all the references to Muhammad and his family and co-workers and daily life?

Then there is another kind of related questionable points - the historical anomalies. As these as said are related and in addition both are historical anomalies and Arabisms, we in this overview treat them together, though marked "Arabism" or "anomalies". In this overview we use the word "historical anomaly" (or just "anomaly") - as opposed to historical errors - for "historical" "information" given in the Quran, which makes problems for the claims related to the claimed "Mother Book" the Quran claims exists in Allah’s Heaven where it is revered by Allah and his angels according to the Quran. Still according to Muhammad and the Quran this book is copied and sent down to all(?) prophets and messengers through the times and all over the world (f.x. 10/47: "To every people (was sent) a Messenger - - -") - Hadiths mention the number 124ooo, but even that may be a symbolic number, and the real one perhaps bigger.

We remind you that even if we omit all older sub-groups of humans, Homo Sapiens - modern man - is between 160ooo and 200ooo years old according to science - a likely number seems to be some 195ooo years. As the Quran claims Allah has sent his prophets and messengers through all times, he has had his representatives spread over the globe at least that long (may be longer if Allah wanted to save also earlier sub-groups like f.x. Homo Neanderthalis, Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus or all the others). According to the Quran all these old prophets, etc. god their book - a copy of the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven - just like Muhammad did.

As these books all were copies of the claimed "Mother Book", they of course have to be similar - copies of the same book are similar, no matter how many are made (f.x. 10/64: "- - - no change can there be in the Words of Allah."). As mentioned also the Quran is claimed to be a copy of that book, they naturally also are similar to the Quran. A very natural concept for Islam, as Islam - and the Quran - claim that Islam is the original religion from the oldest times and all over the world (though not even Islam has found the slightest traces of a book or a religion like the Quran and Islam older than 610 AD - the closest they are able to come, are claims - only claims - about Allah being the same god as Yahweh, a claim which is impossible unless the god is strongly schizophrenic, as the teachings and the fundamental thoughts, ethics, morality, etc. are far too different).

But if we all the same pretend that Allah is an existing god who has had his prophets, etc. spread over the Earth through all times, and that these prophets, etc. each has got a copy of the "Mother Book" - a Quran - we run into another problem: As mentioned copies necessarily are similar to the "Mother Book" - if not they are not copies - and thus similar to the Quran. But the Quran tells about lots and lots of things and persons and happenings the older prophet would not understand about:

Abraham would not understand references to f.x. Moses or what he meant to the people and the religion.

To Moses references to the Judges or David or Solomon would tell or explain exactly nothing.

The names Ezra or Isaiah or Jeremiah would be empty names for David.

Etc., etc., etc., etc.

Jesus might mean some to many of them, but only if you used the title Messiah - names like Jesus or titles like Christ would be totally void of any meaning or information.

Not to mention that none of them would get one millimeter of information from names like Muhammad, Medina, Battle of Uhud, etc. Well, perhaps Jesus may have understood some if he was supernatural, but he in case never mentioned any such names (in spite of Islam's pathetic try to claim the opposite - to claim that a man born some 500 years after the last disciples of Jesus was dead, should be the helper of the disciples, is pathetic).

And if we go from the prophets and others among the Jews, to more distant people, the situation grows even more "joyful": Say a prophet in Congo or Amazonas or Nunavut, Canada, or Arizona or New Guinea or Moscow or Hawaii or Japan f.x. some 3000 BC sat down to read his Quran, how much would he understand? - less than half the book. Or what if it happened 15ooo BC - before man had learnt how to read and write? - and remember even then man/Homo Sapiens had existed with his claimed Qurans for may be 180ooo years, and not one of the really ancient ones knew even how to read a book.

Historical anomalies.

What at least is for sure, is that things happened. And that if the book referred to things which had not yet happened, the people reading the book only would understand bits and pieces - if anything - from those references, as they naturally did not know the stories it referred to.

Another aspect of this point is that if the prophets and messengers of the old received copies of the timeless and unchangeable "Mother Book" - and it has to be unchangeable if it is written before man was created and even more so if it has existed since eternity - these copies were perfect foretelling about the things the Quran - one of the copies - tells about which had still not happened when the local prophet received his copy. If f.x. Abraham or Isaac or Jacob had received their copies, they knew very well what was going to happen to Joseph and where to find him. Admittedly some Muslims claim there was one Quran for each time, but that is not possible if the "Mother Book" which it is a copy from, is as old as the Islam and its Muslims claim. Only Muhammad got no foretelling, because there is not one single real foretelling in the Quran about the times after Muhammad and onwards. Both facts are thought provoking.

Of course it is possible to try to explain the problems away.

One may claim Allah knew everything, and wrote what was going to happen. But in that case free will for man disappears - full and detailed precognition is not possible even for a god, if man has free will - he always can make a new decision or change his mind once more. Some Muslims claim that what the Quran and Allah "really mean" is partly free will - without ever explaining what that means. But this is not what the Quran says, and besides it does not change one iota, except perhaps the time scale a little - just read a little about chaos theory and see where you end. In the non-physical realm there are things impossible even for gods, included detailed precognition. It here also is symptomatic that if Allah wrote the book from his precognition, that precognition had to be limited, as he was unable to write about anything which happened after Muhammad's death in 632 AD - there is not one single real foretelling about things which were to happen after Muhammad.

One may drop the claim that the Quran is from eternity and never made. But in that case it cannot have been made until during the lifetime of Muhammad, as a lot of things which happened then is described - not to mention that Muhammad speaks some places in the Quran. But where then are the similar copies the older prophets received according to the Quran?

Or one may claim that the Quran was old, but that Allah changed it now and then as time went by so that he could add things which happened. But where then end Allah's unchangeable words, his unchangeable predestinations and his unchangeable Plan? And is a Quran - a "Mother Book" which are changed as things happen, worthy of reverence from an almighty and omniscient god and his angels?

Arabism in our meaning of the word in principle is closely related to historical anomalies, only that there are other facts than time which makes them logical anomalies, f.x. different culture, geography, climate, etc.

You find lots of Arabism and historical anomaly in the Quran. What do they tell you?

052 4/13e: "- - - abide therein (in Paradise*) (for ever) - - -". But 11/108c may indicate that it is not forever.

053 4/13f: "- - - that (life in the Quran's Paradise*) will be the supreme achievement". Yes, but only if the Quran tells the full and only truth about it, and not least about how to deserve it.

054 4/13g: "- - - that (life in the Quran's Paradise*) will be the supreme achievement". Life in the Quran's Paradise mainly is bodily pleasures - luxury, good food and drinks, shade, nice cloths and place of living, plenty of sex, etc., and in addition there is a god at some distance. Is that a supreme achievement compared to f.x. Yahweh's Paradise, where you according to the Gospels "become like angels", also in the neighborhood of their god? (The differences between the two Paradises is one more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are different gods.

055 4/14a: "But those who disobey Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) and transgress His limits will be admitted to the Fire - - -". In other words: Obey Muhammad as he is the representative of the god, or else -!!

056 4/14b: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad glues himself to the god throughout the Quran.

057 4/14c: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". To believe that an omniscient god sent a messenger with a teaching so full of mistakes, etc. like Muhammad and his Quran, we need strong proofs.

058 4/14d: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

059 4/14e: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

060 4/14f: "- - - transgress His limits - - -". Whose limits? The intended meaning is Allah's limits, but as the Quran is not from a god and thus not from Allah if he is a god, this needs documentation.

061 4/14g: "- - - a Fire - - -". Hell.

062 4/14h: "- - - a humiliating punishment". See 3/77b above.

063 4/15a: “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness (unlawful sex*) - - - confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way”. (The last part of the sentence must be understood as a “way” metered out especially for each woman who gets such an “ordain”.) This was in 626 AD. But contradiction - and abrogation - 1-2 years later – in 627 or 628 AD:

24/3: “The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication – flog each of them with a hundred stripes - - -“.

It also must be added that in Islam there is a persistent rumor claiming that about 100 verses disappeared and never made it into the Quran when Caliph Uthman had the official Quran made, and that one of the verses was one which demanded stoning for this crime. The fact that stoning for it is prescribed for it in Hadith, and that Hadith (Al-Bukhari) tells that at least once Muhammad himself took part in such a stoning, may strengthen this rumor. If true this would abrogated both those verses, but only some places in the Islamic world one believes this strongly enough in this to use mean stoning today instead of the after all milder punishment prescribed by the Quran.

There is one more moral and judicial question here: If the Quran is the highest authority and Hadiths a lower one, is it then right - if the woman really is guilty - to punish her according to the Quran or to murder her in a bestial way like the Hadiths wants?

This is an even more serious question as a raped woman who cannot bring 4 male witnesses to the very act (which normally is impossible) is to be punished for unlawful sex - probably the most unjust and immoral law on Earth. This means that in such cases Muslims and their sharia laws murder not guilty women if they stone them.

064 4/15b: “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness (unlawful sex*) - - - confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way”. (The last part of the sentence must be understood as a “way” metered out especially for each woman who gets such an “ordain”.) There is nothing similar to this in the Bible.

065 4/16a: "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness (homosexuality*), punish them both". Homosexuality was not liked in the Quran - but is to a degree overlooked and unofficially accepted many places in Muslim area.

066 4/16b: "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness (homosexuality*), punish them both. If they repent and amend, leave them alone". We have found nowhere in the Quran where to repent and amend was enough to be left alone after unlawful sex where one or more women was/were involved. One law for men, another for women. This even though homosexuality generally is reckoned to be more debased than heterosexuality.

067 4/16c: "- - - Allah is - - - Most Merciful - - -". Read 1/1a above and see if you agree.

068 4/17a: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

069 4/17b: "- - - Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom". Not if he made the Quran.

070 4/18a: “Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil, until Death faces one of them, and he says, ‘Now I have repented - - -’” But there is at least one contradiction: Pharaoh screamed (another place in the Quran) as he was about to drown that now he believed in Allah, and this was the result:

10/92: “This day (when the Egyptian army caught up with Moses and the Jews*) shall We (Allah*) save thee (Pharaoh’) in the body - - -.” The expression “in the body” should mean the same as “bodily” or “safe and (relatively at least) sound”. That may be true, as Ramses II did not drown in reality.

071 4/18b: “Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil, until Death faces one of them, and he says, ‘Now I have repented - - -’” This is another fundamental difference between the Quran and the Bible - the Bible accepts regret up to the very end, if it is an honest regret. Remember "in the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8-13).

072 4/18c: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

073 4/18d: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

074 4/18e: "- - - a punishment most grievous"." See 3/77b above.

075 4/19a: "- - - ye who believe!" = Muslims.

076 4/19b: (A4/17): “Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will.” Can this mean you cannot inherit from what she owned after she died, if she protested before she died? Hardly – not with the Islamic laws for inheritances. Zamakhshari proposes that it may mean it is prohibited to force an unwilling or not loved wife to stay with you, in the hope of inheriting her. Other authorities say it means that you are not permitted to inherit the woman as a person – for an extra wife or for your harem (it of course is permitted if she is a slave) against her will (to inherit free women in this meaning, is prohibited also by other laws). This is about very essential points in human life – no omnipotent god had used so vague words in their law.

077 4/19c: "Nor should ye (Muslims*) treat them (women*) with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower ye have given them - - -". The dower was the wife's personal property, but there were many ways to pressure or force her to return some or all of it, or spend it in ways you wanted. But it is prohibited to do so, and beware that even if humans often cannot know what really happens, Allah will know (this last is not said here, but is clear from what is said other places in the Quran).

078 4/20a: "But if you (Muslim*) decide to take one wife in place of another - - -". This is one more place where the NT and the Quran collides so formidably that it singlehanded proves that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god, and their religions not the same ones, except some similarities on some superficial points - like you also will find between Islam and several of the old pagan religions. NT simply does not accept divorce except for very heavy reasons - in the Quran divorce is a standard factor both in life and in the religion. (In OT the rules for divorce were a bit looser than in NT. In NT the marriage was strengthened, and divorce hardly accepted any more. An omniscient god may change his rules when he finds there is a reason for it, but he does not play "try and fail" and then go back to his old rules or worse if his tries fail. For a god to strengthen essential rules - essential for the stability of life and communities and not least for the children - and then suddenly dislike his own improved rules and have to lift the most basic ones and reduce them to become ruled just by whims and wishes (here mainly by what a man likes this day or dislikes the next day like the rules for divorce in the Quran) is not the work of an omniscient god. It also may be remarked that in the NT children in some ways are central, whereas in the Quran's rules for divorce the man's wishes - his wishes - is what counts. The values of the marriage - or ending the marriage - for a woman, counts very little, and the value for children - f.x. a stable life and reliable conditions - are not mentioned at all.)

079 4/20b: (If you replace your wife for a new one) "even if you have given (the old one*) a whole treasure for a dower, take not the least bit of it back - - -". The dower belongs to the woman personally, nearly no matter what.

080 4/20c: (If you replace your wife for a new one) "even if you have given (the old one*) a whole treasure for a dower, take not the least bit of it back - - -". This is one of the verses behind the sharia laws.

081 4/22a: "And marry not women whom your fathers married - except for what is past - - -". One of the verses behind the sharia laws.

082 4/22b: "- - - except what is past - - -". It you have committed these sins before their verse was sent down (?) or before you became a Muslim, you will be forgiven.

083 4/22 - 24a: These verses list some women who are unlawful for a man to marry (a similar list for women is not given - Islam is mainly for men). Notice that some of the prohibitions has no zoological meaning - they come from old pagan tradition: Married women (except slaves), step-mother, foster-mother, step-daughters, two sisters at the same time - and "wives of your sons proceeding from your loins (= real sons*)". But NB: In the old Arabia and into Islam some years it also was reckoned to be incest and a grave sin to marry the (former) wife of not only your real son, but also the wife of your adopted son, simply because he was reckoned to be your son. Then Muhammad fell for Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son Zaid! Quickly Allah changed the age-old laws: You in realty could not adopt children - "a boy should be called by his father's name and not by your". Foster-son, yes. Adopted son, no. Allah often was quick to obey Muhammad's wishes (!!?). Not only that: Allah ordered(?) Muhammad to marry Zaynab, "to prove to people that it is permitted to marry the former wife of your foster-son" (a small verse in the Quran or a small Hadith had had just the same effect - - - but then Muhammad had not got a new wife in his harem). But it is not to be denied that many had and some still have problems accepting the "proof", as it as mentioned was age-old incest in Arabia + a betrayal of Zaid + it did not help that Zaynab still was married to Zaid when the story started. Even today some Muslims are not 100% glad when they defend just this deed of Muhammad. There also is no doubt that Allah's ordering Muhammad to marry her for the mentioned reason is one of the "thinnest" and most helpless "explanations" we have ever met for a serious deed.

084 4/22 - 24b: These verses list some women who are unlawful for a man to marry. They are parts of the background for the sharia laws.

085 4/23a: "Prohibited for you (Muslims*) (for marriage) are - - - your - - - daughters - - -". Lot in the Quran is a prophet to Allah. All the same he got children with his 2 daughters (1. Mos. 19/31-36). (Islam "solves" the problem by claiming that it cannot be true.)

086 4/23b: "Prohibited for you (Muslims*) (for marriage) are - - - your - - - sisters - - -". Abraham - the highest idol in Islam except Muhammad - was married to his half-sister Sara (1. Mos. 20/12). Muslims never mention this.

087 4/23c: "Prohibited for you (Muslims*) (for marriage) are - - - two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time - - -". Jacob, who according to the Quran was a prophet to Allah, was married to the two sisters Leah and Rachel at the same time (1. Mos. 29/22-30). We have never seen any Muslim comment on this.

088 4/23d: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful - - -". Read 1/1a above and see if you agree.

#089 4/24a: “Also (prohibited (for Muslims to marry*) are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess - - -“. = You can rape or marry slave women even if they were/are married before. No comments. In this connection remember that not until in unbelievable 1982 AD was slavery abolished in the last Muslim country – Mauritania. (And not until even more unbelievable 2007 did it become a punishable crime there). That is to say; we have heard that Niger was even later, but we have found no confirmation on this. Also remember that according to UN (2008 AD) some 24 million humans today “live as slaves or under slave like conditions” – a good percentage of them in Muslim areas. And not least: According to old Islamic laws (later than Muhammad though), all so-called “new ideas” became prohibited and punishable early in the Islamic period. That meant everything not in the Quran or traditions (Hadith) was prohibited. This turned out to be too harsh, and they were forced to accept some changes: Changes which could be said to build on the Quran or Hadith were called “god new ideas” and permitted, whereas all other were called “bad new ideas” and still prohibited. And if times are reversed sometime in the future the "bad new idea" (= not in the Quran or Hadiths) of ending slavery, may well be abolished as sinful. No matter how Muslims boast about that abolishing of slavery was/is an integrated part of Islam, that claim only is rubbish to be very polite. Islam was forced backwards and fighting into abolition slavery by the west, and if the situation changes sufficiently (f.x. in a future world dominated by Islam) slavery may well be reintroduced - Muhammad practiced slavery, and the abolishing it thus was and is "a bad new idea", like it or not, as everything Muhammad said and did was right.

Muhammad both took, raped (at least Rayhana bint Amr and Safiyya bint Huayay), used as gifts, accepted as gift (at least his colored concubine Mariah, who bore him his son Ibrahim, who died as a baby, though) and sold slaves – and Muhammad is the great icon in Islam: Everything he did is permissible, good, and morally and ethically fine. So if Islam gains the upper hand and the pressure and ideas from the outside come to an end, will then to continue abolishing slavery be thought to be a “good new idea” or a “bad new idea” – and in the latter case: Will slavery then little by little be reinstated like said above? – at least as long as the slaves are not Muslims? There are many who would not be surprised. Especially slave women is a temptation.

090 4/24b: “Also (prohibited (for Muslims to marry*) are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (= slave women*) - - -“. Guess if permission to marry an already married slave woman is contradicted by the NT! In the Bible, and especially in NT the marriage is sacred. Actually this "small detail" represents such a strong collision of fundamental principles in the two books, that this difference alone proves that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. And then there are all the other proofs in addition.

Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

091 4/24c: "- - - those whom your right hand possess - - -". An Arabism (see 4/13d above) - an Arab expression meaning your slaves.

092 4/24d: "- - - seek (them (female slaves*) in marriage) with gifts from your property - - -." Well, Muhammad took Safiyya prisoner, made her his slave, raped her, then later married her, and her "gift" was release from slavery (but not from marriage). A very cheap "gift" from Muhammad's property in reality. (He wanted to get a cheap new wife in the same way with Rayhana bint Amr, but she refused.) You do the same like Muhammad!!!

093 4/24e: "- - - seek (them (female slaves*) in marriage) with gifts from your property - - -". Dower is not a necessary part of the marriage in the Bible. We will not use the strong word "proof" for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god here, but it is an added indication.

094 4/24f: "- - - Allah is All-Knowing, All-wise". Not if he made the Quran - when there is divergence between big words - even often repeated big words - and reality, we always believe reality.

095 4/25a: (A4/29): “If any of you have not the means - - -.” The Arab expression says: “lam yastadi’ tawlan” literally means: “cannot afford” – but do this in this case mean “have not money”, or does any other hindrance count (Muhammad ‘Abduh)? The book gives no answer, even if this concerns central happenings in a human’s life.

096 4/25b: “If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women - - -". The likely meaning here is that you cannot afford the dower. As a dower is not a necessary part (hardly a part at all) in the Bible, this problem is not from the Bible. (As mentioned other places, the demand for dower as part of the ritual of marriage, is one more indication for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god.)

097 4/25c: “If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from those whom your right hand possess - - -”. “The ones whom your right hand possess”, is an Arab expression for slaves. To marry a slave girl is far down socially, but acceptable. Willing or not willing slave girl - the question is never asked in the Quran (besides it is likely that many would be willing, as it often meant they formally became free women, not slaves any more).

098 4/25d: "- - - those whom your right hand possess - - -". An Arabism (see 4/13d above) - an Arab expression meaning your slaves.

099 4/25e: "- - - Allah hath full knowledge about your Faith". Why then does he have to test people, included Muslims?

100 4/25f: "- - - Faith". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

101 4/25g: "- - - we them (slave girls*) with the leave of their owners, and give them (the slave women Muslims marry*) their dowers, according to what is reasonable - - -". Some of the background for the sharia laws. 

102 4/25h: "- - - give them (the slave women Muslims marry*) their dowers, according to what is reasonable - - -". Part of the background for the sharia laws. We may add that it was a custom that the dower for a slave woman was her formal freedom from bondage. (Some even did like Muhammad: He took Safiyya captive, then married her - after having first murdered her husband and raped her - and then used her new slave status as a dower. A cheap wife.)

103 4/25i: “- - - their (slave women married to a free Muslim*) punishment (for crime or indecency*) is half of that for free women.” This was softer than in the Americas, as far as it was practiced (slaves in the house often fared not too bad in Muslim areas (like in the Americas), whereas slaves in the fields, mines, etc. could have a terrible life – not unlike the worst situations in the Americas).

104 4/25j: “- - - their (slave women married to a free Muslim*) punishment (for crime or indecency*) is half of that for free women.” Part of the background for the sharia laws.

##105 4/25k: (YA540): A serious quote from today's Islam (printed 2006 AD): "- - - see to it that she (the (slave) woman you are to marry*) too believes (= is a Muslim*). In that case, after all, she too is of the human brotherhood - - -." No comments. As said: Printed in 2006.

106 4/25l: "And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above and see if you agree.

107 4/26a: "Allah doth wish to make clear to you - - -". Allah or the maker of the Quran? (No god was involved in the making of the Quran - far too much is wrong).

#108 4/26b: "Allah doth wish to make clear to you (by means of the Quran*) - - -". Another indication for that Allah (?) means the Quran has an easy language meant to be understood like the words say - not meant for searching for hidden meanings, etc.

0109 4/26c: "Allah doth wish to make clear to you (by means of the Quran*) - - -". No book so full of mistakes and unclear points makes much clear to anybody.

110 4/26d: "- - - Allah is All-knowing, All-wise". Not if he is behind the Quran - too much is wrong in that book.

111 4/27a: "- - - those who follow their lusts - - -". Yet another of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

112 4/27b: "- - - those who follow their lusts - - -". = The non-Muslims. It was essential for Muhammad to impress on his followers that the ones who did not believe him, did so because they were morally inferior persons. (The real reason was that they saw that Muhammad's claim that Allah and Yahweh were the same god and Islam was this god's religion, could not be true - the religions and the gods were too different).

113 4/27c: "- - - the wish of those who follow their lusts (the non-Muslims*) is that ye (Muslims*) should turn away (from Him (Allah*)) - far, far away". Is that a bad idea if Allah does not exist - perhaps only is a dressed up, non-existing pagan god? This even more so if the non-Muslim should happen to believe in an existing god?

114 4/28: "Allah doth wish to lighten your (difficulties)". By giving you a religion of war, hate, apartheid and inferior women?

115 4/29a: "- - - ye who believe!" = Muslims.

***116 4/29b: (A4/38): “Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanity”. But is that the correct meaning? “The Message of the Quran” has: “Do not devour one another’s possessions wrongfully – not even by way of trade based on mutual agreement” – which roughly says the same (something like “do not cheat each other” or worse) in a few more words. But the Arab word “illa” in front means “except” or “unless it be”, which means that the literal meaning in reality is “do not eat up one another’s possessions wrongfully, unless it be (an act of) trade based on mutual agreement” - - - which means that wrongful profit is ok if the parts agree on it – f.x. by a sheer swindle where the buyer believes he/she gets a fair deal. This strongly contradicts other Islamic laws. It takes some highly advanced verbal gymnastics to explain it away. Every scholar agrees that the literal meaning must be wrong, but words have to be used in special meanings to make that meaning disappear. At very best very unusual use of the language – in spite of that the Quran itself boasts of that the language it to be understood literal, and that it is easy to understand. More likely it simply is a big mistake a la 6/151a below.

###117 4/29c: "- - - nor kill (or destroy) yourselves - - -". A most essential sentence in a time with lots of self murder terrorists - self murder clearly is against this verse in the Quran.

118 4/29d: "- - - for verily Allah hath been to you (Muslims*) most Merciful". See 1/1a above, and add the introduction of a war religion you have to participate in. And there in addition is the question; does he exist?

119 4/29e: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

120 4/29+30a: "- - - nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: - - - If any of you (Muslims*) do that in rancor or injustice - soon shall We (Allah) cast them into fire". Worth thinking over for terrorists? - if for no other reason than because you do injustice when you kill - at least if you kill person a real court would not sentence to death, you are doing injustice and will end in Hell. Most likely also for killing yourself, but clearly for killing persons with too small sins to be judged to death sentence by a real court. There also are the cases where some ones are suspected, but not guilty - in a court they can clear up the story, but not if they simply are killed.

121 4/29+30b: "- - - nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: - - - If any of you (Muslims*) do that in rancor or injustice - soon shall We (Allah) cast them into fire". At least when you do not think things over like in 4/29+30a just above, this may seemingly permit self murder terrorists. Some religion! - not to mention some "religion of peace"!!

122 4/30a: "- - - injustice - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant in accordance with the book's own partly immoral moral code.

123 4/30b: "- - - the Fire - - -". Hell.

124 4/30c: "- - - it is easy for Allah". If he exists and if he in addition is a god.

125 4/31a: "If ye (Muslims*) (but) eschew the most heinous of the things which ye are forbidden to do, We (Allah*), shall expel out of you all the evil in you, and admit you to a Gate of great honor". In plain words: If you do not do big sins, the small sins will be forgiven you and you will end in Paradise - an easy religion - - - if it is not a made up one (remember that the Quran is not from any god - too much is wrong).

126 4/31b: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant in accordance with the book's own partly immoral moral code.

127 4/31c: (A4/40): “And admit you to a Gate of great honor” = admit you in an honorable way. This is among other Razi’s interpretation. But what is the real meaning of the Arab word “mudkhal”? It may as well mean “- - - enter an abode of glory” = a glorious place. Clear? The underlying meaning, though, simply is Paradise.

128 4/32a: "And in no wise covet those things in which Allah hath bestowed His gifts more freely on some of you than on others - - -." The old problem: "I am a good Muslim. Why do others have better lives than me?" This is explained away several places in the Quran - explained away. The most used "explanation" simply is that Allah in his deep wisdom has decided it like that - and that in the claimed next life you will be on top and they punished - - - quite a comfort for you to "know".

####129 4/32b: - - - but ask Allah for His bounty". Why? If Allah has predestined everything, prayers is a waste of time - nobody and nothing can change Allah's Plan according to the Quran.

This in reality is one more - but never mentioned - utmost severe contradiction in the Quran: If Allah has predestined everything according to his unchangeable Plan, like the Quran states several places, it is cheating and a parody to tell Muslims that prayers may have an effect.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 6/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

130 4/32c: "For Allah hath full knowledge of all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

131 4/33a: Here the Quran suddenly and totally changes subject. This is something you meet MANY places in the book: It jumps back and forth, hither and thither between the subjects. Also in this way the Quran is not good literature.

132 4/33b: "To the benefit of everyone - - -". It had been to much more benefit - but less income for lawyers - if the shares always added up. But the omniscient Allah(?) was unable to do so.

133 4/33c: (YA543): “To (benefit) every one, We (Allah*) have appointed sharers and heirs - - -.” But the Arab word used her - "mawali"/plural: "mawla" - may mean: A. Closely related. B. Heir. C. Sharer or partner. D. Neighbor. E. Friend. F. Protector. G. Client. H. Lord or master. At least 8 different meanings. Clear language in the Quran?

134 4/33d: "For truly Allah is witness to all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

135 4/33e: "- - - truly - - -". See 2/2a above.

136 4/34a: “Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength (only the physical strength counts*)) than the other, and because they support them from their means (because the women hardly had any other choice in Muhammad's Arabia*). Therefore, the righteous women are devoutly obedient (and chaste*)”. As for support: In many Arabian societies before Islam, the woman was working and doing her share of supporting the family and herself. In those many cases the reason why she needs support, is that Islam denies her the possibility to do it herself. (Actually one reason why a war religion like Islam may be will not succeed in conquering the world, simply is the inefficiency of the female workforce - and another that Muslims cannot be trained to think for themselves (and be innovative) because then they may start asking questions about Islam - among other things about all the mistakes, contradictions, and invalid proofs and logic - and some aspects with its morality, ethics and humanity - or the lack of such. As for empathy it is so far from Islam, that it is an open question to what degree an average, but strongly believing Muslim is able to feel empathy, at least for anything not Muslim - it is too foreign to the ideals of Islam).

137 4/34b: “Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength (only the physical strength counts*)) than the other, and because they support them from their means (because the women hardly had any other choice in Muhammad's Arabia*). Therefore, the righteous women are devoutly obedient (and chaste*)”.

138 4/34c: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant in accordance with the book's own partly immoral moral code.

139 4/34d: "- - - and because they (men*) support them (women*) - - -". This was/is a result of the culture, not a necessary side of human nature. Given the possibility a woman can well support herself, and in many old cultures the woman did her share of the work to feed and to bring up the family - in some cultures more than her share. But because some places in Arabia - not all - a woman could not do that, it is used as an argument for that she is inferior to the man - in Mecca (originally not in Yathrib/Medina or among many other Arabs) and soon in Muslim societies (partly because of Umar) and now in all the world (though with variations - many places women are permitted to work outside the family).

140 4/34e: (A4/43): “- - - the righteous woman - - - guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard.” But what? – is it a warning about unlawful sex? – has it to do with felicity in the wider sense? – to guide her husband’s property? Who knows – it is one of the unclear points for Muslims, even though it is a central point in life.

141 4/34f: “As to those women on whose part ye fear (!!) disloyalty and an ill-conduct - - - (if not words help*) chastise them (lightly) - - -.” We are told that the word “lightly” is not in the original Arab texts. And it is enough that you fear it - nothing more is necessary.

142 4/34g: “As to those women on whose part ye fear (!!) disloyalty and an ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) chastise them (lightly (according to one source this word is not in the Arab original*)) - - -". Not to be found in the Bible.

143 4/34h: “As to those women on whose part ye fear (!!) disloyalty and an ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) chastise them (lightly (according to one source this word is not in the Arab original*)); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance) - - -". Part of the background for the sharia laws.

144 4/34i: (YA547): “- - - spank them (lightly) - - -.” But the Arab word used here – “daraba” – “is used in the Quran with about 17 - seventeen - different meanings - - -.” Has Allah so limited a vocabulary that he has to use such a diffuse speech? At least it is very clear that the texts in the Quran frequently are very unclear.

145 4/34j: "- - - Allah is Most High, Great (above you (people*) all". If he exists. And if he in addition is like told in the Quran - the full and only truth.

146 4/35a: "If ye (family, etc.*) fear a breach between the two of them (the married ones*), appoint (two) arbiters, one from his family, and the other from hers - - -". Part of the background for the sharia laws.

147 4/35b: "- - - Allah hath full knowledge - - -". Not if he made the Quran.

148 4/35c: "- - - Allah hath full knowledge, and is acquainted with all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

149 4/36a: "Serve Allah, and join not partners with Him - - -". In reality an Arabism, because only the Arabs could be accused of joining other gods with al-Lah/Allah. All others simply did not believe in al-Lah/Allah and had one or more god not in addition to him, but instead of him (and the old Arabs really believed in the pagan al-Lah, not in Muhammad's version of him.

150 4/36b: “- - - do good - to parents, kinfolks, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, neighbors who are strangers, the Companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hand possess - - -”. Allah likes people who do good - even to slaves. Your slaves are mentioned after even wayfarers you happen to meet, but they are mentioned. Proving Islam was planning to end slavery?

151 4/36c: "- - - do good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant in accordance with the book's own partly immoral moral code.

152 4/36d: "- - - what your (Muslims*) right hands possess - - -". An Arab expression meaning slaves - an Arabism (see 4/13d above).

153 4/37a: "- - - the bounties which Allah hath bestowed on them - - -". Everything you have, are gifts from Allah according to the Quran (and as Allah predestine what you are going to have, why work?)

154 4/37b: "- - - We (Allah*) have prepared, for those who resist Faith, a punishment that steeps them in contempt - - -". See 3/77b above.

155 4/37c: "- - - those who resist Faith - - -". Non-Muslims.

156 4/37d: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

157 4/38: "- - - if any take Satan for their intimate - - -". It is normal for Islam to tell that non-Muslims have Satan for their intimate. A bit ironic as it is clear the Quran is from no god - too much is wrong - and one of the theories for who is the maker is just the Devil (the partly immoral code, the hate and war religion, etc. may indicate such an explanation).

158 4/39a: "- - - what Allah hath given them (Muslims*) for sustenance - - -". Everything you have, is given you from Allah according to the Quran.

159 4/39b: "For Allah hath full knowledge of them". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

***160 4/40a: “Allah is never unjust in the last degree - - -.” Wrong. Examples: Suppression of others (non-Muslims) is “good and lawful and just” . The same is stealing and robbing if it is possible to find an excuse to call it jihad (to do things like this in the name of the god makes it extra disgusting) – and the same for rape of any not pregnant female captive or slave. But a top of injustice is: A raped woman is to be punished strongly for indecency if she cannot produce 4 male witnesses to the actual rape - nearly always impossible. Allah in the Quran at times is extremely unjust.

161 4/40b: "- - - unjust - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant in accordance with the book's own partly immoral moral code.

162 4/40c: "- - - good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant in accordance with the book's own partly immoral moral code.

163 4/40d: "- - - and giveth from His (Allah's) own presence - - -". If he exists, if he in case cares about what is said in the Quran - which is moderately likely as it is not from any god with all its errors, etc. - and if the Quran tells the full and only truth here. 

164 4/40e: "- - - and giveth from His (Allah's) own presence a great reward". Often claimed, never proved - and a promise any Pagan can tell about his god, as long as he are able to evade all requests for proofs.

165 4/41a: "How then if We (Allah*) brought from each People a witness - - -?" But why - WHY - does a god who Islam claims is omniscient and predestining, need witnesses??!!

166 4/41b: "- - - and We (Allah*) brought thee (a Muslim*) as a witness against these People!" See 4/41a just above.

167 4/42a: "On that day - - -". The Day of Doom.

168 4/42b: "On that day those who reject Faith and disobey the Messenger (will be strictly punished)". A seldom used, but strong version of Muhammad's mantras to glue himself to his platform of power - his god. Do not disobey Muhammad!

169 4/42c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

170 4/42d: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

171 4/42e: "- - - those who reject Faith - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative - to Muslims - names for non-Muslims.

172 4/42f: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

173 4/42g: "- - - never will they (not good Muslims* and non-Muslims*) hide a single fact for Allah." Such - never proved - claims are good comfort for Muslims; "they" will be punished. They also are good whips for Muhammad and his successors - "behave, or Allah will punish you". And if Islam is a made up religion: It was and is good and cheap words for Muhammad and for his successors.

174 4/42h: "- - - never will they (not good Muslims* and non-Muslims*) hide a single fact for Allah". See 2/233h above and 35/38 below.

175 4/43a: "- - - ye who believe!" = Muslims.

176 4/43b: “Approach not prayers with a mind befogged (drunk*) - - -.” Abrogated later by making it stricter by f.x.:

5/90: “Intoxicants and gambling - - - (are*) of Satan’s handiwork: eschew such (abomination) - - -.” (Surah 4 is from ca. 626 AD, surah 5 from ca. 632 AD.)

177 4/43c: “Approach not prayers with a mind befogged (drunk*) - - - nor in a state of ceremonial impurity - - -”. One of the points behind the sharia laws.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

178 4/43d: "- - - in a state of ceremonial impurity - - -". Beware that when the Quran so strongly stresses cleanliness, it is the formal - ceremonial - cleanliness which really counts, not the physical reality. This said, however, there is little doubt that the stress on ceremonial cleanliness also influences Muslims' view on physical cleanliness.

179 4/43e: “- - - (if*) ye have had contact (in this case; had sex*) with a woman (you are unclean*)”. We have found no corresponding statement about a woman having had sex with a man becomes unclean - but then women from nature are more unclean. Sex is nice and necessary according to Islam, but it also is unclean. Not only physically unclean, but also ceremonial unclean. The same goes for the juices from a woman, and hence partly to the woman herself, at least when she has her monthly period. Therefore it is essential for the man to clean himself afterward – and if real washing is not possible, then at least ceremonial cleansing, if by no other means then by dust or some kinds of earth. The women is ceremonial restricted when she has her periods – she is unclean – and has to do a thorough ceremonial cleaning each time the period is finished. This even though according to Islam it is Allah who has made also the women, and he created the humans perfect.

180 4/43f: "- - - if ye find no water, then take for yourself clean sand or earth and rub therewith your face and hands". It was the formal cleanliness which counted, not the reality (all the same it is highly likely that the Quran's demand for formal cleanliness also had a general effect).

181 4/43g: "- - - if ye find no water, then take for yourself clean sand or earth and rub therewith your face and hands". You do not find this kind of pretending in the Bible.

182 4/43h: "- - - Allah doth blot out sins and forgive - - -". Not unless he exists and is a god, and if he behaves like described in the Quran - and if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth about this.

183 4/44a: "- - - those who were given a portion of the Book (the Quran*)". According to Yusuf Ali (YA366) it is not entirely clear what is meant by the expression "a portion of the Book" - the Quran often is unclear in stark contradiction to what Muslims like to claim - but it is clear that the Quran here means Jews and Christians.

184 4/44b: "- - - they (Jews and Christians*) traffic in error - - -" = they have falsified the Bible - a never documented claim science long since have proved untrue, not to say is a lie - and just to mention it: Islam has proved the same by being unable to find even one proved falsification. Even more: If Muslims demand a proof from you for this, first demand proof for falsification from them, as they put forth the claim and thus have the burden of proof - such proof does not exist and the best documentation for this is that if it had existed, Islam had put it in the wall of every mosque in gold. But as said it really is proved by science and by Islam (by not finding one single proved falsification among literally tens of thousands of relevant old manuscripts) beyond any reasonable and unreasonable doubt that the Bible is not falsified - some mistakes, yes; falsifications, no.

185 4/44c: "They (Jews and Christians*) traffic in error - - -". Muhammad's standard claim: These people did not believe in him because they had falsified the Bible to have riches in this life. (The real reason was that they knew the Bible and saw that many of Muhammad's claims about its contents were wrong. Also see 4/44b just above.

186 4/44d: "They (Jews and Christians*) traffic in error - - -". Strongly contradicted by the Bible - and the Bible is deemed more reliable than the Quran by science. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

187 4/44e: "- - - the right path". The road to the Quran's paradise (see 10/9f below). But is a religious "path" advised by a "guide-book" full of mistakes and not from a god - too much is wrong - the right path?

188 4/45a: "But Allah hath full knowledge of your enemies - - -". If he exists and is a god, and if he behaves like described in the Quran - and if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth about this.

189 4/45b: "- - - Allah is enough for a Protector - - -". See 4/45a just above.

190 4/45c: "- - - Allah is enough for a Helper". See 4/45a above. We may add that in 1400 years and more there has not been one single proved case of help from Allah to anyone - a lot of claims, but no proved case.

191 4/46a: "Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

192 4/46b: "Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places - - -". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places. If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man, and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined.) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

193 4/46c: "We (Jews*) hear and we disobey", etc. It seems like Jews waged a low-scale psychological war against Muhammad - - - if Muhammad here tells the truth.

194 4/46d: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

195 4/46e: "We hear and we obey". This was the slogan Muhammad idolized for his followers. And who did they in case obey here on this Earth? - Muhammad.

196 4/46f: "(If the Jews only had obeyed Allah/Muhammad*) it had been better for them, and more proper - - -". Only if Islam is a real religion based on a real god, and only if in addition Yahweh does not exist.

197 4/46g: "- - - Allah hath cursed them (non-Muslim - in this case Jews*) for their unbelief - - -". One more strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god: Yahweh - especially in NT - might curse persons for bad deeds, but not for disbelief itself. He instead would try to reach them and save them - compare Allah here to f.x. "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8-13).

198 4/46h: "- - - their (the Jews'*) Unbelief - - -". It is not unbelief unless Allah exists and Yahweh not - and for Yahweh there exist a lot of proofs if the old books tell the truth, whereas for Allah there only - only - are claims from a not very reliable person.

199 4/47a: "- - - People of the Book (in this case the Bible*) - - -". = Jews, Christians and Sabeans (most likely from the mainly Christian Saba/Sabah/Sheba in what now is Yemen - but see 2/62f above).

200 4/47c: "- - - what We (Allah*) have (now) revealed - - -". No omniscient god ever revealed texts containing so much wrong like in the Quran.

201 4/47c: "- - - revealed - - -". There only are claims for that anything at all was revelations. And what he had "revealed" in dreams (only in the bed of Aishah - his child wife - it is said one place in Hadiths), and what he got "by inspiration" - are any parts of this his own good ideas? - - - inspirations do not necessarily always come from a god (the alternative of "inspiration" is not even mentioned in the Bible - see f.x. 4. Mos.12/6). There are verses in the Quran which even Muslim scholars admit do not belong in a holy book - f.x. the whole surah 111. And there are all the mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, unclear explanations, etc. which no god would make.

*202 4/47d: (The Quran is*) “confirming what was (already) with you (= the Bible, the Torah, etc.*) “. There are too many basic thoughts which are too different between the Quran and the Bible – especially compared to the NT and its new covenant (f.x. Luke 22/20). Incitement to war against non-believers vs. the “lost lamb”, “do not kill” vs. “do not kill except for a good reason”, all the incitements to war, etc., etc. The Quran is no confirmation of the Bible, and definitely not of NT. It is also not possible that the same god is behind so different ideas, unless he is mentally ill. See also 2/89b, 2/139a-b and 3/3e+f above 29/46 and 29/46c-e below + "Falsification of the Bible?" in https://www.1000mistakes.com

*203 4/47e: (The Quran is*) “confirming what was (already) with you (= the Bible, the Torah, etc.*) “.

204 4/47f: "- - - We (Allah*) cursed the Sabbath-breakers - - -". An interesting piece of information, as Muslims does not celebrate the Sabbath, and break each and everyone.

205 4/47g: "- - - the decision of Allah must be carried out". Only if Allah is a reality.

206 4/48a: “Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him, - - -.” See 2/255a and 6/106b above, and 25/18a below.

207 4/48b: “Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him, - - -.” Contradicts at least this one:

4/153: “Yet they (Moses’ Jews*) worshiped the (gold*) calf - - - even so We (Allah*) forgave them - - -“ – which he said he would not/never do in 4/48.

208 4/48c: "- - - to set up partners with Allah, is to devise a sin most heinous indeed". Only if Allah exists and in addition is a god.

209 4/48d: "- - - set up partners with Allah - - -". Non-Muslims do not set up partners with Allah. They simply do not believe he exists and set up another god - or other gods - instead. But Muhammad use the mentioned expression to claim that they know about Allah (and thus certifies his claims about Allah's existence), but have other gods in addition. Wrong. There are in this case oceans between "instead of " and "(together*) with".

210 4/48e: "- - - set up partners with Allah - - -". This only happened in Arabia, as the old Arabs believed in al-Lah and other gods. As Muhammad claimed al-Lah was his god Allah, he could claim the old Arabs set up other gods together with al-/Lah/Allah. But this as said only goes for Arabia -

211 4/48f: "- - - a sin most heinous indeed". Only if the Quran is without mistakes about this and about Allah and his existence.

212 4/48g: "- - - indeed". See 2/2b above.

213 4/49a: "- - - those (Jews*) who claim sanctity for themselves - - -". The Jews claimed to be "the god's chosen people", much to the irritation of Muhammad. Muhammad used to claim they claimed this special status because they were descendants of Abraham, even though he well knew about the real background; the Jews' covenant with Yahweh. Perhaps "descendants from Abraham" were easier to ridicule than a covenant with a god? Muhammad also did his best to claim the Jews' covenant with the god was terminated, but this is nowhere said by Yahweh according to the old books.

214 4/49b: "- - -Allah doth sanctify whom He pleaseth". Once more a fundamental difference between the Quran and especially NY: Yahweh sanctifies anyone who really wants and qualify, Allah only whom he wishes.

215 4/49c: "- - - justice - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code and partly unjust sharia laws.

216 4/50a: "How they (Jews and Christians*) invent a lie against Allah". = How they have falsified the Bible! = the only defense Muhammad had against the fact that there were large differences between what he told about the Bible and what really was in the Bible. See 2/75b, 2/89ab, 2/130 and 4/47d above and "Falsifications in the Bible?" in https://www.1000mistakes.com .

217 4/50b: "But that (to lie about Allah*) by itself is a manifest sin!" Is that also the case for the makers of the Quran? With that many errors, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc. it is not from a god, but invented by someone or something and just pretended to be from a god - but no god makes a book of a quality like the Quran.

218 4/50c: "But that (to lie about Allah*) by itself is a manifest sin!". Wrong if Yahweh really exists - and even more so if Allah in addition is a made up, originally pagan god.

219 4/50d: "- - - manifest - - -". See 2/2b above.

220 4/51a: "- - - those who were given a portion of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". = Jews, Christians and Sabeans (most likely from the mainly Christian Saba/Sabah/Sheba - see 2/62f above - in what now is Yemen). But also see 4/44a above.

221 4/51b: "- - - a portion of the Book - - -". The Bible, though it is unclear exactly what is meant by the expression (YA366).

222 4/51c: (A4/69): “They believe in Sorcery and Evil - - -.” But the Arab (in reality unlikely to be Arab according to Lisan al-Arab) word “al-jibt” which A. Yusuf Ali says mean sorcery and evil, is an unclear word. This sentence in reality may mean: “They believe in baseless mysteries” (M. Asad). Or: “They believe in something in which there is no good” (Baydavi, Qamus). Or: “They believe in enchantment” (Umar ibn al-Khattab). Or: “They believe in anything that is worshiped instead of Allah” (Zamakhshari). And a number of other possibilities included “soothsaying”, “fanciful ideas”, “superstitious divinations” and more. Very unclear language to use for a god making a book which is “clear and easy to understand.” Another point: On the net there are claims that Muhammad among other things believed in "the evil eye" (It is said to be from the Hadiths).

223 4/51d: "- - - and say to the Unbelievers that they are better guided in the (right) way than the believers". This sentence is a bit unruly. What is meant is that the People of the Book tell other Unbelievers that they - the People of the Book - are better informed than the believers about what is the right religion. Especially if Allah is a made up god, they may be right.

224 4/51e: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

225 4/51f: "- - - the (right) way - - -". Here = the right religion (other places in the Quran it simply may mean the Quran/Islam).

226 4/51g: "- - - they (Jews, Christians*) are better guided - - - than (Muslims*) - - -". If Yahweh exists like both the Bible and the Quran tells, but Allah not - or if Allah is not a dominant god - this may be correct. Yahweh has proved himself if the old books tell the truth, Allah has proved exactly nothing.

227 4/51h: "- - - Believers - - -". Muslims.

228 4/52a: "They (the People of the Book - Jews, Christians, Sabeans*) are (men) Allah hath cursed - - -". To use small letters: BAD PEOPLE!

229 4/52b: "They (the People of the Book - Jews, Christians, Sabeans*) are (men) Allah hath cursed - - - have no one to help". Wrong if the god(s) they believe in - f.x. Yahweh - really exists.

230: 4/53a: "Have they (non-Muslims*) a share in dominion and power?" Yes, if their god - f.x. Yahweh - is a real and powerful god.

231 4/53b: "Behold, they give not a farthing to their fellow-men". A bit strange claim as generosity always has been a positive thing in Christianity. And not less strange as hardly any of the really international aid or help NGOs started in Muslim countries, but in Christian ones. Claims are cheap, reality is reliable.

232 4/54a: "- - - the people of Abraham - - -". The people at the time of Abraham or Abraham's descendants? Unclear.

233 4/54b: "- - - the people of Abraham - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

234 4/54c: "- - - the Book - - -". In this case the Bible.

235 4/54d: "- - - and conferred upon them ("the people of Abraham"*) a great kingdom". This kingdom is Paradise. - Or may be the kingdom of David and Solomon if the answer of 4/54a just above is "Abraham's descendants"?

236 4/55: "- - - enough is Hell for a burning fire". See 3/77b above.

237 4/56a: “Those who reject Our (Allah’s) Signs - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

238 4/56b: “Those who reject Our (Allah’s) Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire - - -”. As long as no reliable sign is sent, there should be no excuse for casting anyone into the Fire. Also see 3/77b above.

239 4/56c: “- - - Our (Allah's) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39 above.

240 4/56d: “- - - the Fire - - -”. Hell.

241 4/56e: (In Hell:) "As often as their skin is roasted through (takes ca. 5 min. in a good fire according to science), We (Allah!! NB!!) shall change them for fresh skins (to give maximum pain*)".

1: Is this a good and benevolent god?

2: Why is Allah working in Hell? Is the Islamic rumor true that Hell is part of Allah's system and the Devil only a proprietor permitted by Allah? - in that case Allah definitely is no good and benevolent god (if he exists).

242 4/56f: "(Allah is*) - - - Exalted in Power - - -". He in case never clearly proved it.

243 4/56g: "(Allah is*) - - - Wise". Not if he made the Quran.

244 4/57a: "- - - those who believe - - -". = The Muslims.

245 4/57b: "- - - deeds of righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is meant in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code - f.x. one of the very best deeds is to fight and kill and steal and suppress for Muhammad and his claimed god.

246 4/57c: "- - - Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath - - -". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below. Also the most frequently used Arabism (see 4/13d below) in the Quran.

247 4/57d: "- - - Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath - - -". The desert dwellers' dream of a paradise - an Arabism.

248 4/57e: "- - - (Paradise will be*) their (Muslims'*) eternal home". But 11/108c may indicate that it is not quite eternal.

249 4/57f: “- - - therein (Paradise*) shall they (deserving Muslim men*) have companions pure and holy (houris*) - - -.” Houris are a bit special kind of women, but the “fact” that they are given to the men arriving in Paradise as repayment for good (?) deeds, tells kilometers about Islam’s view on women, about the Quran's moral code and about the Muslim Paradise.

250 4/57g: “- - - therein (Paradise*) shall they (deserving Muslim men*) have companions pure and holy - - -.” Very different from the Bible's Paradise to use an understatement (f.x. Luke 20/36 - "they are like angels") - very different. The same god? You bet! Actually this - the concubines in Paradise - is one of the points where the difference between the Bible and the Quran is so big and so fundamental, that it singlehanded roves that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

251 4/57h: "- - - companions pure and holy - - -". The famous houris - the virgin concubines in the Quran's paradise. See 4/57e just above. There never is mentioned how these women likes to be sex-toys for rough and primitive and uneducated selfish warriors. It also is remarkable that it mainly is these women which are mentioned in the Quran, not the wives of the men. This tells something sinister about Islam and about women in Islam. There are light-years between this and the Bible's paradise. Simply not the same god.

252 4/57i: (A4/74): “We shall admit them to shades, cool and deepening.” One thing is that here is one more of the many cases of “only Arabian references” - Arabisms - (or at least hot parts of the globe) in a claimed world religion from a god for the entire world. More down to earth is: Is the sentence correctly understood? Today the Arab word “zill” mainly means “shade” and “zill zahil” something like “dense shadow” (no good thing for one from cold countries who dreams about good sunshine). But all languages change – so also Arab. In old Arab it also meant “a covering” or “a shelter” and also “protection” or even “a state of ease, pleasure and plenty” or “happiness” (Lane 1915) – and the “zill zahil” which is used here then may mean f.x. “abundant happiness” (Razi). There is a difference between “deep shade” and “abundant happiness” – except perhaps for home-grown dwellers of hot deserts. Clear language in the Quran?

####253 4/57j: This is what the Muslim paradise has to offer: Good food and drink (and never to the toilet), lots of women (a small share of their husband for women - if they are able to compete with the houris), peace and quiet, nice shades and enough water, nice clothes and riches. You must be primitive, uneducated, poor, and from a hot desert to be able to think about this as the ultimate Paradise. F.x. exceedingly boring in the long run. Very different from the Bible's "You become like angels" (f.x. Luke 20/36). The very different paradises is one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

254 4/57k: "We (Allah*) shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening". An Arabism - see 4/13d above.

255 4/58a: "- - - judge with justice - - -". On the face of it, this is a good demand. The minus is that it is meant "justice" according to the Quran's partly immoral moral code and the sometimes very unjust sharia laws.

256 4/58b: "- - - verily, how excellent is the teaching He (Allah*) giveth you (Muslims*)". Wrong. For anyone following a normal moral philosophy, parts of the Muslim moral code (they have little or no moral philosophy, not to mention an ethics one, just Muhammad's somewhat twisted moral code) are horrible and inhuman. Compare it to "do against others like you want others do against you" and go home.

257 4/58c: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

258 4/58d: "- - - how excellent is the teaching (the Quran*) which He (Allah*) giveth - - -". Wrong. No god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.

259 4/58e: "- - - excellent - - -". See 2/2b above.

260 4/58f: "- - - how excellent is the teaching (the Quran*) which He (Allah*) giveth you - - -". There is little excellent in a teaching where very much is wrong.

261 4/58g: "For Allah is He Who heareth and seeth all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

262 4/59a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

263 4/59b: "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -." This is one of Muhammad's standard mantras to glue himself to Allah and his platform of power - here in a strengthened version - doubly nice as "Obey Allah" on Earth = obey Muhammad. An interesting and often repeated order from Allah(?) - at least interesting for a man who obviously liked power (and respect).

264 4/59c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below./p>

265 4/59d: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

266 4/59e: "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger (Muhammad*), and those charged with authority among you." A clear order from the god: Obey the authorities.

267 4/59f: "If you differ in anything among yourself, refer it to Allah and his Messenger - - - that is best and more suitable for final determination." Yes, leave the final decisions to Muhammad in reality. Any comments necessary?

268 4/59g: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his platform of power; Allah.

269 4/59h: "- - - his Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below./p>

270 4/59i: "- - - his Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

271 4/59j: "- - - the Last Day - - -": The Day of Doom.

272 4/59k: "(To believe in Allah*) is the best and most suitable for final determination". Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which claims it is better to believe in Yahweh. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

273 4/60a: "- - - those who declare that they believe in the revelations that have come to thee (Muhammad*) and to those before thee - - -". This is the Jews and Christians. "- - - those before thee - - -" is a clear reference to them, and "revelations that have come to thee" - well, Muhammad liked to claim that many Jews and Christians believed in his teachings. F.x. the Qurayza proved it was not true. (Though here he may mean that they lied when they said they believed in him.)

274 4/60b: "- - - revelations - - -". See 4/47c above.

275 4/60c: "- - - the revelations that have come down to thee (Muhammad*) - - -". In case they came, they at least came from no god - too much is wrong. Then from whom?

276 4/60d: "Their (non-Muslims'*) (real) wish is to resort together for judgment (in their disputes) to Satan - - -". That is the kind of people non-Muslims are!

277 4/60e: "But Satan's wish was to lead them astray - - -". The Quran intends that "they" are Jews, Christians, etc. But a pertinent question as it is clear the Quran is from no god, and as the Quran's moral code at points are horrible, is: Are the Muslims included in "they"? Or perhaps the Muslims = "they"? (some of the rules in the Quran may be made by a devil).

278 4/60f: "- - - (from the Right (the teaching of the Quran*)) - - -". With all those mistakes, etc. that teaching at beast is partly right. At best. And no god has sent down a book with that many errors.

279 4/61a: "Come to what Allah hath revealed - - -". Can an omniscient go have revealed a book with that many mistakes, etc.? Simply no.

280 4/61b: "Come to what Allah hath revealed, and to the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A version of Muhammad's mantra to glue himself to Allah - his platform of power.

281 4/61c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

282 4/61d: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

283 4/61e: "- - - reveled - - -". Is the Quran really revealed? - and in case from whom as no god ever was involved in a book so full of mistakes, etc.? Also see 4/47c above.

284 4/62: "- - - because of deeds their hands have sent forth?" = because of sins (and good deeds) they have done in this life. But how can man sin if Allah decides and predestines everything? - at least: How can sins be punishable if Allah has decided and enforced them? Allah decides and predestines everything, the Quran says, and then man in case cannot have free will - and thus not be punishable. Some Muslims try to explain that man has limited free will, but not even this is possible if Allah decides everything (Islam is unable to explain this - f.x. comment 141, surah 6, in Asad "The Message of the Quran", short: Impossible to explain or understand, but must be true because it is said so in the Quran(!!!).

285 4/63: “Those men (not good Muslims or apostates*) - - - keep clear of them, but admonish them, and speak to them a word to reach their very soul.” To keep clear of the not good Muslims, not to mention the possible apostates, was not the real – and shortly also not the official - line for a long time. It soon was: Punish them! This verse is contradicted and often “killed” and abrogated by at least these verses demanding stricter actions: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

286 4/64a: "We sent not a Messenger (included Muhammad*) but to be obeyed - - -". Obey Muhammad! - no comment.

287 4/64b: "We sent not a Messenger but to be obeyed - - -". Jesus was sent not to be obeyed, but to be followed - and Jesus according to the Bible - was not just a messenger boy, but at least a prophet. Quite different holy or "holy" books the Bible and the Quran.

288 4/64c: "- - - a Messenger (Muhammad?)*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

289 4/64d: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

290 4/64e: "- - - the Will of Allah". As the Quran is not from any god, it is not possible to know what the will of Allah is - if he exists - as there is no reliable source of such information.

291 4/64f "- - - unjust - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

292 4/64g: "- - - asked Allah's forgiveness - - -". To what avail is such a request if it is true that Allah predestines everything according to his unchangeable Plan? As everything is predestined according to an unchangeable Plan, prayers can have no effect - the Plan is unchangeable.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

Or is this one more of the many contradictions in the Quran? - a most serious one even?

293 4/64h: "- - - asked Allah's forgiveness - - -". Only 2 can forgive - the victim and a god. Thus in cases where Allah - if he exists - is not the victim, he cannot forgive unless he is a real god.

294 4/64i: "- - - Allah (is*) - - - Most Merciful." See 1/1a above.

295 4/65a: "- - - by the Lord (Allah*) - - -". The Quran is swearing by Allah. Most sentences in the Quran beginning with "by", are oaths. In this case the oath means that Allah is swearing by himself - but if you have said or say something and swear by yourself, you do not strengthening your words, as it is the same "person" who is the grantor for the truth in what you have said, as the one - you - who said it. To swear by oneself thus is without meaning.

###296 4/65b: "- - - they (persons*) can have no (real) Faith until they make thee (Muhammad*) judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against thy decisions - - -". = You only are a real believer if you accept Muhammad's total dictatorship had never question his decisions. This is a sentence which alone tells books about Muhammad and about Islam.

#297 4/65c: "- - - they (persons*) can have no (real) Faith until they make thee (Muhammad*) judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against thy decisions - - -". Totally contradicted by the Bible - such a clash of fundamental principles that this verse alone proves that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god. And then there are all the other proofs in addition. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

298 4/65d: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith in the Quran.

**299 4/66a: “If We (Allah*) had ordered them to sacrifice their lives or to leave their homes, very few of them would have done it (also most Muslims do not like war*): but if they had done what they were (actually) told, it would have been best for them - - -”. Allah had liked them better if they went to war, and willingly so. Like f.x. the Old Norse religion, Islam glorifies war, at least war for Allah and Muhammad (and his successors). And like the Old Norse religion, to die in battle meant to go to Paradise. That makes ferocious warriors - and today: Ferocious terrorists. Terrorists often do not qualify for Paradise even according to the rules of the Quran (their “war” is not really jihad, even if their leaders have told them so, and/or they practice their “war” in ways not accepted by the Quran - killing the not guilty, f.x. - even though the terrorists “define” the victims as guilty - and self murder is not accepted according to the Quran, etc., but as long as terrorists believe they are right, the effect is the same.

300 4/66b: "(To go to war and*) sacrifice their (Muslims'*) lives - - - would have gone farthest to strengthen their (faith)". A paradox if Islam claims to be "the religion of peace".

301 4/66c: "- - - (faith) - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith in the Quran.

*302 4/67a: “And We (Allah*) should have given them (the ones reluctant to give their lives, see 4/66a) from Our Presence a great reward (if they went to war*)”. One of the many incitements to war for a good and peaceful god or religion or prophet. Sometimes we feel that the ugly West may be after all have a better moral philosophy and ethics - sometimes to say the least of it. And may be a more human god, even though it is politically correct to dismiss and slander him.

303 4/67b: "- - - a great reward". Paradise - see 10/9f below.

*304 4/68a: “And We (Allah*) should have shown them (see 4/67 above) the Straight Way (if they went to war*)”. War was essential for Muhammad - and still is for some Muslims - and there are lots of incitements to go to war. Like it or not - NT is far, far more peaceful. Yes, even OT, as that tells about old wars, but does not incite to war forever - and a limited war to gain a country for the Jews, not a global war to suppress all non-Muslims on the entire globe - - - or make them Muslims, often by force or pressure backed by force. It is far from true when Muslims tell Islam is a peaceful religion (except towards fellow Muslims of the same sects).

*305 4/68b: “And We (Allah*) should have shown them (see 4/67 above*) the Straight Way (if they went to war)”. One more never proved claim from a man who had a lot to gain and who according to Islam was not very reliable (overlook the glorious words and read what he really demanded, introduced and did, and you will see how reliable he was and his real moral - demands and deeds, etc. are much more reliable than cheap words.

306 4/68c: "- - - the Straight Way". The road to the Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

307 4/68d: "- - - the Straight Way". How can a crooked guide-book show any straight way?

308 4/69a: "All who obey Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad*) (are liked by Allah*)". Double plus for Muhammad: Glue him to Allah + obey him. Strengthening the platform of power. An extra point here - like many other places in the Quran - is that here on Earth the one they had to obey, was Muhammad, a nice situation for any leader wanting power.

309 4/69b: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

310 4/69c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

311 4/69d: "- - - of the Prophets (included Muhammad*) - - -". But Muhammad did not belong in such a company - he was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet was a person who could see at least parts of the unseen, and thus a person who:

Have the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.

Makes prophesies which always or at least mostly come true.

Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for any person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not guess the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking. (Dearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion. Definitely not a problem any omniscient god would have had).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying, that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen (extra revealing here is that the old Biblical title for a prophet, was "a seer" - one who saw the unseen (see further down)) and also that there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran” (prophesying is a kind of miracle - seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracle connected to Muhammad "except the revelation of the Quran" also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories). We also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah, according to Hadiths (f.x. Al-Bukhari) states that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden and what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet.

Also relevant here is as said that the original title of the Jewish prophets was not "prophet", but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F.x. 1. Sam. #9/9, 1. Sam. 9/11, 1. Sam. 9/18, 1. Sam. 9/19, 2. Kings. 17/13, 1. Chr. 9/22, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1. Chr. 29/29, 2. Chr. 9/29, 2. Chr. 16/7, 2. Chr.16/10, 2. Chr. 19/2, 2. Chr. 29/25, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side in transition periods). Muhammad thus so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen".

Many liked - and like - the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for this title - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something or himself - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.

***This is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why. It also is anybody's guess why he more often used the far less imposing title "Messenger" - a messenger boy is something far smaller than a prophet. Did he know or suspect that it was not true, and that an explanation for the lack of prophesies from a self proclaimed prophet would be difficult to explain? Like the reason why he so seldom claims he is found in the Bible, may have been that he knew or suspected it was not true?

Besides: To belong in a special line of prophets, the teachings and the prophesies of course must be in line with the other prophets in that line, because a god follows a steady course and teaching (one of the proofs for that something is wrong with the Quran - Allah changes too much back and forth in his claimed teachings, and especially so if he had been identical to Yahweh: From rather harsh up to Jesus, then mild under the new covenant, then harsher, but reasonably mild under Muhammad in Mecca, and finally a full and partly immoral and unjust war god in Medina from ca. 622 - 624 AD when Muhammad started to need warriors to gain riches (mainly for bribes) and power). If not, one either belongs to another line - another god with another teaching/religion - or one simply is a false prophet (there have been many more false prophets than real ones through the times). Muhammad's religion was far from both the OT and even much further from NT, and in addition he was unable to make prophesies - even if he had been a prophet, he is far too far from the teaching of Yahweh and Yahweh’s Jewish prophets. He is not in that line of prophets and not speaking for the same god - too much is different. The Quran simply may be one of the many apocryphal - made up - manuscripts/books more or less loosely built on biblical traditions and "adjusted" to fit the religious teaching of sects more or less distant from the mother religion - the Quran in case is one of the more distant ones.

It also is remarkable that Muhammad relatively seldom used the title "prophet" about himself in the Quran. He mostly used the title "Messenger", even though messenger in reality means an errand-boy (Muslims try to make this title something big and imposing, but this is the meaning of it). "Prophet" on the other hand is a heavy and impressive title telling a lot about the person. May the reason for why he did not use it so often, be that he knew he did not have what it took to merit that title, and was a little careful using it, so as not to provoke questions or comments? (And is this also the reason why Muslims try to pretend that "messenger" is something more impressive and heavy than "prophet"?)

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h below.

312 4/69e: "- - - the Sincere (lovers of Truth) - - -". The man who in reality institutionalized al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) even though it only was formalized later, who believed in deceiving ("war is deceit" - and everything is jihad) and who advised his followers to break their words/promises/oaths if that gave a better result (according to the Quran: 2/224e-f, 2/224-225, 5/89a+b), so definitely did and do not belong here. "Ausgeschlossen".

313 4/69f: "- - - Truth - - -". See 13/1g and 40/75 below. Also beware that al-Taqiyya (lawful lies) and Kitman (lawful half-truths) at times could and can be used instead of the truth. Islam is a bit special religion on the point of honesty, and especially so when defending or promoting the religion.

314 4/69g: "- - - the Witness (who testify) - - -". A man like Muhammad would not be reckoned to be a reliable witness in any just court. See f.x. 4/69c+d above.

315 4/69h: "- - - the Righteous - - -". See 4/69d+e above, and add facts like stealing/robbing, rape, suppression, murder, and more. Muhammad was the anti-these to the company of the Righteous.

316 4/69i: "- - - Righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

317 4/69j: "- - - (who do good) - - -". See 4/69h+i above.

318 4/69k: "What a beautiful fellowship (Islam)!" Look at Islam's treatment of non-Muslims outside Muslim area f.x. during raids , wars and conquest, of non-Muslims inside Muslim areas at times, of Muslims disagreeing with the mainstream religion, of their own women, of slaves and slave women, and not to forget look at the Quran's moral code and sharia law, and then say this once more - if you are able to.

319 4/70a: "- - - the Bounty from Allah - - -". We are back to the worn out topic: He only can give you of his claimed bounty if he exists.

320 4/70b: "- - - the Bounty from Allah - - -". Does the Quran here mean what the Muslims stole/steal, raped/rape and enslaved during raids and wars?

321 4/70c: "- - - and sufficient is it that Allah knoweth all". This is strongly contradicted by the fact that Allah time and again and again had and has to test his followers - Allah's knowledge is not enough. Or was it Muhammad's wish for warriors which dominated?

322 4/70d: "- - - and sufficient is it that Allah knoweth all". All the mistakes, etc. in the Quran prove beyond not only any reasonable doubt, but beyond any doubt at all that he knows far from all - - - if it is he who made that book.

323 4/71a: “- - - ye who believe!" = Muslims.

##324 4/71b: “O ye who believe! Take your precautions, and either go forth (in war*) in parties or go forth all together”. Be strong when you attack. "The religion of peace"? On the contrary - Islam is a typical religion of war. The only reason why this Islamic slogan is not dead long time ago, is that non-Muslims do not know the Quran well enough to laugh from that claim. (But beware that many Muslims also do not know the book well enough or are too indoctrinated, and are unable to see the hypocrisy - or al-Taqiyya (lawful lie) - in the claim. They simply and honestly believe it!)

##325 4/71c: “O ye who believe! Take your precautions, and either go forth (in war*) in parties or go forth all together”. You find nothing like this in NT (and like in the Quran the newer parts normally supersedes the older ones). One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

326 4/72+73a: Pep-talk for war.

327 4/72+73b: As mentioned in 4/72+73a just above these two verses are pep-talk for war. You NEVER find such pep talk in NT - NEVER. One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

*328 4/74a: “Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter”. If you are willing to exchange your life here on Earth for a future life in Paradise, you should be permitted to - and qualified to - wage war for Allah. (Only let us hope you are not cheated. If something is wrong in the Quran - and at least a huge number of facts and much of the logic are wrong, etc. - you may be in for quite a surprise if there is a next life. Not to mention what a rude awakening you will have if Islam is a dreamed-up religion, and there is another religion which is true. But in the meantime Muslim leaders have a cheap source for power, warriors and terrorists).

*329 4/74b: “Let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter”. You NEVER find things like this in NT - NEVER - and not even in OT (there they fought for (establishing) their country). One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

330 4/74c: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - - -". Notice that the Quran never talks about the 3. alternative: The ones who becomes invalids. In any non-atomic battle there normally are to the size of 10 wounded for each killed. A good percentage of these will be so seriously hurt, that they never regain their health, and become a burden to their families instead of a plus. The book also never mentions the situation for families and children who have to live on with an invalid - or dead - father. May be Allah forgot this alternative? 

331 4/74d: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give him a reward of great (value) (= Paradise*)”. What can be a better reward - - - if it is true? And what can be a cheaper way for leaders to get warriors, than promises of payment in the next life? - especially if the religion is made up (and remember that this is likely, as the Quran with all its mistakes is from no god) and the Quran's paradise thus does not exist.

332 4/74e: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give him a reward of great (value) (= Paradise*)". Guess if this is a contradiction to NT!!! Yahweh and Allah the same god? You NEVER find things like this in NT - NEVER - and not even in OT (there they fought for (establishing) their country). One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

333 4/74f: "- - - a reward of great (value)". Paradise - a cheap reward for Muhammad, especially if Islam just is a made up religion.

334 4/75a: “And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah - - -?" The most clear-cut reason is that all the mistakes in the Quran makes it clear that something is seriously wrong + it makes it as clear that there is no god behind the book - no god makes such and so many errors. And when there is no god behind a religion, you do not fight for a god if you go to war.

335 4/75b: “And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah - - -?" Another strong contradiction to NT - there are legion reasons in NT for avoiding war and fighting. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Only if he is strongly schizophrenic. One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

336 4/75c: “And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Men, women and children (crying for help and rescue*) - - -.” Muhammad’s version of the glorious hero on the white horse - and "forgetting" to add "- and power and riches for Muhammad". Another inciting dream "pushed" by good psychology - claimed help to women and children is a good motif.

337 4/75d: "- - - rise for us (the weak ones*) from Thee (Allah*) one who will protect, and raise us from Thee one who will help!" Guess if the warlord Muhammad here is telling that the warlord Muhammad is sent from the god, and that the weak ones are praying for help from the great warrior on the white horse - the warlord Muhammad - to help them!! Have you heard dictators glorifying themselves and glorifying war of aggression before?!

338 4/76a: “Those who believe - - -". = Muslims.

***339 4/76b: “Those who believe (Muslims*) fight in the cause of Allah - - -". This is about as far from NT as you can come. Allah and Yahweh the same god? One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

***340 4/76c: “Those who believe (Muslims*) fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith (non-Muslims*) fight in the cause of Evil: so fight ye against the friends of Satan - - -.” To say the least of it: The words are not to be misunderstood: Fight the non-Muslims, because they are the friends of Satan. Though we personally – and as far as we know also others – just wonder: Some great force or religion which teaches stealing, destruction, rape, enslavement, suppression, murder, hate, war – is that a god, benevolent something or not? – or is it a devil? – perhaps a devil in disguise?

341 4/76d: "- - - those who reject Faith - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

342 4/76e: "- - - those who reject Faith fight in the cause of Evil - - -". Non-Muslims opposing Muhammad are bad people. There is a good reason to fight and kill or suppress them - and steal their possessions and women.

343 4/76f: "- - - those who reject Faith - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

344 4/76g: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

345 4/76h: "- - - Evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant in accordance with the book's own partly immoral moral code.

346 4/76i: “- - - fight ye against the friends of Satan - - -“. Of course you want to do that – and of course all non-Muslims are friends of Satan. Hate mongering. There is more like this in the Quran.

##347 4/76j: "- - - the friends of Satan - - -". A name used by Muhammad and the Quran for non-Muslims. Quite understandable that Muslims may be reluctant to be integrated with such detestable persons. (If this had been a novel or sect religion, it had been prohibited in most civilized countries for hate mongering, incitement to war and discrimination, etc. The only reason why the Quran is not prohibited in all civilized countries for such reasons, is that Islam is too strong and that most non-Muslims do not know the book and its very fascistic and hateful message, not to say Nazi-like message of discrimination, murder and war.)

348 4/77a: "- - - those who were told to hold back - - -". Muslim scholars say this refers to the ones eager to fight for loot and other personal gain, and that it indicates that only "true" Muslims were reliable warriors. Whether this is the true interpretation or not, is another question (the next sentences indicate that the interpretation may be wrong) - not to mention how many Muslims who in reality went on raids or to war only/mainly/partly because of the permission to steal, rape and enslave. Besides: Where are words comparable to Jesus' words in this? The same god behind the religions?

*349 4/77b: “Our Lord! Why hast Thou ordered us to fight?” This is a question from a Muslim not wanting to fight (though see 4/77a just above) - and we should remember that after all today they are the majority (but the trouble for non-Muslims is that it is difficult and impossible to know who are terrorists, who are helping terrorists, who give money to terrorists, who has sympathy with terrorism and who are just plain - and often sympathetic - humans). But the verse makes it very clear - as do many other verses in the Quran - that war for the religion is a duty and an order. Who said that terrorists have to disuse the Quran to find incitement and reasons?

*350 4/77c: “Our Lord! Why hast Thou ordered us to fight?” Jesus never ordered anyone to fight, except for by intellectual means - never. On the contrary he was extremely pacifistic. One more of the many points which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

351 4/77d: “Short is the enjoyment of this world: the Hereafter is best for those who do right - - -.” You may flee from war in this short life – but those who go to war will have a much better next and everlasting life. Become a warrior and fight for Muhammad – and for Allah (if he exists). The ones doing right, are those who fight wars for Allah and for Muhammad. The religion of peace!?!

352 4/77e: "- - - the Hereafter is best (for Muslims*) - - -". If it exists, if Islam is a real religion (not a made up one), and if the Quran tells the full and only truth. And if points 2 and 3 are wrong, the hereafter is not god for Muslims even if it exists.

353 4/77f: "- - - those who do right - - -". Here it is meant the Muslims. But see 4/77f just below.

354 4/77g: "- - - do right - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

355 4/77h: "- - - never will ye (Muslims*) be dealt with (by Allah*) unjustly in the very least!" If Allah exists, if he is a major god, and if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth about him. But also see 4/77h just below.

356 4/77i: "- - - never will ye (Muslims*) be dealt with (by Allah*) unjustly in the very least!" Wrong. Muslims have to live according to the Quran's moral code and according to the sharia laws (at least if they are believing Muslims), which both at least partly are highly unjust - compare to the gold standard: "Do against others like you want others do against you" and judge for yourself.

357 4/77j: "- - - unjustly - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

***358 4/78a: “Wherever you are, death will find you, even if ye are in towers built strong and high!” The predestination once more - Allah has decided when you are to die (Hadiths tell he decides on this - and on whether you are to end in Hell or Paradise - 5 months before you are born). You can as well go to war and do "good" things for Allah – and get rewards and spoils of war from him – because you will die no sooner and no later all the same. No comments should be necessary. Beware that this is the belief also today, even though it is ever so easy to prove by statistics - and also by simply using your brain - that this is wrong.

359 4/78b: "- - - thee (O Prophet) - - -". But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet was a person who could see at least parts of the unseen, and thus a person who:

Have the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.

Makes prophesies that always or at least mostly come true.

Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for any person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not guess the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking. (Dearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion. Definitely not a problem any omniscient god would have had).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying, that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen (extra revealing here is that the old Biblical title for a prophet, was "a seer" - one who saw the unseen (see further down)) and also that there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran” (prophesying is a kind of miracle - seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracle connected to Muhammad "except the revelation of the Quran" also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories). We also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah, according to Hadiths (f.x. Al-Bukhari) states that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden and what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet.

Also relevant here is as said that the original title of the Jewish prophets was not "prophet", but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F.x. 1. Sam. #9/9, 1. Sam. 9/11, 1. Sam. 9/18, 1. Sam. 9/19, 2. Kings. 17/13, 1. Chr. 9/22, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1. Chr. 29/29, 2. Chr. 9/29, 2. Chr. 16/7, 2. Chr.16/10, 2. Chr. 19/2, 2. Chr. 29/25, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side in transition periods). Muhammad thus so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen".

Many liked - and like - the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for this title - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something or himself - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.

***This is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why. It also is anybody's guess why he more often used the far less imposing title "Messenger" - a messenger boy is something far smaller than a prophet. Did he know or suspect that it was not true, and that an explanation for the lack of prophesies from a self proclaimed prophet would be difficult to explain? Like the reason why he so seldom claims he is found in the Bible, may have been that he knew or suspected it was not true?

Besides: To belong in a special line of prophets, the teachings and the prophesies of course must be in line with the other prophets in that line, because a god follows a steady course and teaching (one of the proofs for that something is wrong with the Quran - Allah changes too much back and forth in his claimed teachings, and especially so if he had been identical to Yahweh: From rather harsh up to Jesus, then mild under the new covenant, then harsher, but reasonably mild under Muhammad in Mecca, and finally a full and partly immoral and unjust war god in Medina from ca. 622 - 624 AD when Muhammad started to need warriors to gain riches (mainly for bribes) and power). If not, one either belongs to another line - another god with another teaching/religion - or one simply is a false prophet (there have been many more false prophets than real ones through the times). Muhammad's religion was far from both the OT and even much further from NT, and in addition he was unable to make prophesies - even if he had been a prophet, he is far too far from the teaching of Yahweh and Yahweh’s Jewish prophets. He is not in that line of prophets and not speaking for the same god - too much is different. The Quran simply may be one of the many apocryphal - made up - manuscripts/books more or less loosely built on biblical traditions and "adjusted" to fit the religious teaching of sects more or less distant from the mother religion - the Quran in case is one of the more distant ones.

It also is remarkable that Muhammad relatively seldom used the title "prophet" about himself in the Quran. He mostly used the title "Messenger", even though messenger in reality means an errand-boy (Muslims try to make this title something big and imposing, but this is the meaning of it). "Prophet" on the other hand is a heavy and impressive title telling a lot about the person. May the reason for why he did not use it so often, be that he knew he did not have what it took to merit that title, and was a little careful using it, so as not to provoke questions or comments? (And is this also the reason why Muslims try to pretend that "messenger" is something more impressive and heavy than "prophet"?)

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h below.

360 4/78c: "- - - thee (O Prophet (Muhammad*)) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

361 4/78d: “All things are from Allah.” From other places in the Quran one knows that “all things” means everything which happens, is given, is taken, and anything else. Then 4/78 is clearly contradicted by 4/79: “- - - but whatever evil happens to thee, is from thy (own) soul”. In addition this sentence from 4/79 is wrong – there f.x. are the natural and other catastrophes and accidents impossible for you to cause, and there are other peoples’ and animals’ actions. In addition every verse telling that man has free will, is contradicted by this (and many others) verse – free will for man and full predestination, and even only full precognition are absolutely impossible to combine even for a god. Even Islam admits that it is impossible to combine, “but all the same it has to be true as Allah says so (in the Quran)” (!!!!!) (“The Message of the Quran” 6/149, note 6/141).

362 4/78e: "But what hath come over these people (contemporaries of Muhammad*) that they fail to understand a single fact (that the best is to go to war and end in Paradise)?". If man has full or partly free will, that they failed to "understand" that war was best, could not reliably be written in the claimed "Mother Book" until after it had happened. One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places. If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man, and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined.) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

 

363 4/78f: "- - - fact". See 2/2b above. Also see the comments about al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) etc.

364 4/79a: "Whatever good, (O man!) happens to thee, is from Allah - - -". Nothing good is from your toil or brain - it is a gift from Allah. (But then why toil or think?).

365 4/79b: “- - - but whatever evil happens to thee, is from thy (own) soul.” But:

4/78: “All things are from Allah.” See remark to 4/78c above and 14/22b below. There are MANY verses claiming that Allah decides everything.

It also is thought provoking that whatever you do, it can have no good result for you, because all the good results come from Allah.

How is it possible that everything evil which happen to you is your own fault if Allah predestines everything, like the Quran states many places?

366 4/79c: "And We (Allah*) has sent thee (Muhammad*) as a Messenger - - -" No god sends a messenger telling tales where so much is wrong.

367 4/79d: "And We (Allah*) has sent thee (Muhammad*) as a Messenger - - -". Another version of Muhammad's mantra to glue himself to his platform of power - his religion.

368 4/79e: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

369 4/79f: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

####370 4/80a: "He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah - - -". It is not possible to express Muhammad's mantra more directly than this. The ultimate dictator with ultimate power.

##371 4/80b: "He who obeys the Messenger, obeys Allah - - -". If Muslims insists on that Yahweh = Allah, this is one more very strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

372 4/80c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

373 4/80d: "- - - Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

374 4/80e: "We (Allah*) have not sent thee (Muhammad*) to watch over their (evil deeds)". This was in 626 AD, shortly before Muhammad's power really took off. Guess if this sentence was abrogated (made invalid) buy later and harsher verses!! - f.x. 9/5. The ones doing right, are those who fight wars for Allah and the ones who suppress the non-Muslims.

375 4/80f: "- - - (evil deeds) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

 

376 4/81a: "But Allah records their (claimed hypocrites' or non-Muslims’*) nightly (plots) - - -". = Remember: Allah will punish them. - if he exists, if he is a god, and if the Quran tells the full and only truth about everything.

377 4/81b: “- - - so (Muslims*) keep clear of them (“infidels”/hypocrites*) - - -.” Social pressure, etc. also is pressure - or compulsion – especially when everybody knows it is backed by the sword if you protest. This verse contradicts (and abrogates) at least these verses which demands stricter reactions (here f.x. are 88 out of the 124 Muslim scholars say are abrogated by 9/5): 2/109, 2/190, 2/256, 2/272, 3/20, 4/62, 4/81, 4/90, 5/3, 5/28, 5/48, 5/99, 6/60, 6/66, 6/70, 6/104, 6/107, 6/112, 6/158, 7/87, 7/188, 7/193, 7/199, 8/61, 9/68, 10/41, 10/99, 10/102, 10/108, 11/12, 11/121, 13/40, 15/3, 15/94, 16/35, 16/82, 16/125, 16/126, 16/127, 17/54, 18/29, 18/56, 19/39, 20/130, 21/107, 21/112, 22/49, 22/68, 23/54, 23/96, 24/54, 26/216, 27/92, 28/50, 28/55, 29/18, 29/46, 32/30, 34/25, 34/28, 35/23, 35/24a, 36/17, 39/41, 41/34, 42/6, 42/15, 42/48, 43/83, 43/89, 44/59, 45/14, 46/9, 46/135a, 46/135b, 46/135b, 50/39, 50/45, 51/50-51a, 51/54, 52/45, 52/47, 53/29, 67/26, 73/10, 73/11, 79/45, 86/17, 88/22, 109/6. They are all quoted under 9/5 in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran". (At least 88 contradictions).

378 4/81c: "- - - put thy (Muslims'*) trust in Allah - - -". A bit risky if he does not exist.

379 4/81d: "- - - put thy (Muslims'*) trust in Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which wants you instead to put your trust in Yahweh - a much milder god with a more honest teaching. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

380 4/81e: "- - - enough is Allah as a disposer of affairs". If he exists, if he is a major god, and if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth about this.

381 4/82a: "Do they not consider the Quran (with care)?" At least a number did - and found too much wrong and too much wanting. Those were the real reasons for a large number of skeptics - not the base reasons Muhammad accused them of./p>

***382 4/82b: “Had it (the Quran*) been from other than Allah, they would surely therein found much discrepancy.” What a proof!!! The ultimate joke and irony! In addition to all the mistakes, contradictions, etc. (roughly at least unbelievable 3000 (!!!) everything included), there is so much discrepancy in the Quran, that Islam has a special rule how to solve such problems - the so called rule of abrogation: If there is discrepancy between two (or more) places in the Quran, the youngest one normally is the correct one - the omniscient Allah so often (300 times or more according to "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran") had to change his mind or got new information which forced him to change his words, that one needs a special rule how to behave in such cases (this is one of the reasons why it is essential for Islam to know the age of the surahs and verses, or at least which is older than which - to know which is valid and which is abrogated). And there is so much discrepancy between the Quran and modern knowledge that it is clear that either Islam has a lot of good explaining to do, or the Quran is not made by an omniscient god. (Islam has a lot of explanations, but most of those are not about explaining the mistakes, etc., but about explaining them away, and such "explanations" often are invalid or highly dubious - use your brain and knowledge when you listen or read, and you will see this is true). The quoted sentence really is an indirect, but strong proof from the Quran itself that the Quran is not sent down from an omniscient god - and a reason why Muslims cannot afford to admit there is one single mistake in the book, no matter how unlikely explanations they have to use to “explain” the mistakes away: If there are mistakes, there is something fundamentally wrong with the religion. That is too difficult to face.

(It should be mentioned that some Muslims denies there is a rule of abrogation (an omniscient god would not need to adjust or further specify his own rules - it spoils the picture of perfection and of omniscience), but anyone can read and see for him-/herself: Many points are adjusted, extended or given other limits - larger or smaller - in the Quran. We have never counted, but we have read numbers from ca. 100 to more than 500 abrogations depending on how strictly you judge. Actually it is said by some Islamic scholars that only 9/5 – “the Verse of the Sword” – abrogates 124 older mild verses).

In addition to the internal discrepancies in the Quran, one has all the mentioned mistakes – they are discrepancies compared to the reality. Besides: Even if it had been without the least contradiction, that had meant nothing as a proof - Muhammad had plenty of time to be careful and think his words over as after all this not big book took 23 years (but he was unable to make it perfect). But there are more than 300 internal contradiction (see http://www.1000mistakes.com about this) + all external contradictions (contradiction with reality).

383 4/83a: "When there comes to them (contemporaries of Muhammad*) some matter touching (public) safety or fear, they divulge it". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places. If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man, and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined.) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

 

384 4/83b: "- - - some matter touching (public) safety or fear - - -". = Rumors or information about war and danger for war. Do not spread such ones - tell it only to Muhammad or other leaders.

385 4/83c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

386 4/83d: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

387 4/83e: "- - - the Grace and Mercy of Allah - - -". See 1/1a above.

388 4/83f: "- - - all but a few of you would have fallen into the clutches of Satan." This sentence is a bit ironic, as one of the theories about the origin of the Quran, is that the maker is Satan/the Devil. It cannot be from a god, as no god would make so many discrepancies, mistakes, etc., and many of the verses, especially from Medina, are so devilish and inhuman - stealing/robbing, dishonesty, raping, apartheid, discrimination, enslaving, murder, mass murder, war, hate, strong fascism and even Nazism often, that there is a good reason for suspecting dark forces. But personally our group does not believe so - not even a devil would make a book with that many errors, as he/she had to know he/she would be found out sooner or later and loose credence. Well, there may be one possibility: People in religious fervor and blindness often are unable to see the reality if it do not fit their unshakable blind belief - it is like this among strong believers in all religions, included Islam. May be a devil gambled on this fact? Or maybe he only was permitted by the god to try to lead more humans to Hell, on the condition that the trap should be easy to see by persons able to think?

***389 4/84a: “Then fight in Allah’s cause - - -.” One more verse which contradicts and abrogates many of the peaceful verses from mainly Mecca and early Medina (this is from 626 AD and the harsher religion Islam had developed into). At least 10 contradictions and as many abrogations. Remember that when the Quran talks about fight, it normally always means armed combat (as opposed to NT where it refers to intellectual conflict).

***390 4/84b: “Then fight in Allah’s cause - - -”. The religion of peace? - from a good and benevolent god?

***391 4/84c: “Then fight in Allah’s cause - - -.” This one is strongly contradicted both by OT (where one fought first to establish a country and later to defend it), and even far more - 180 degrees opposite - by NT (which does not accept physical fighting at all - "turn the other cheek"). One of the many points in the Quran which singlehanded proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs.

392 4/84d: "- - - rouse the Believers (to armed combat*)". May be this is what some imams, mullahs and others are doing? Well, drop "may be".

393 4/84e: "- - - rouse the Believers (to armed combat*)". This one is strongly contradicted both by OT (where one fought first to establish a country and later to defend it), and even far more - 180 degrees opposite - by NT (which does not accept physical fighting at all - "turn the other cheek"). One of the many points in the Quran which singlehanded proves that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs.

394 4/84f: "- - - Believers - - -". = Muslims.

395 4/84g: "It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the unbelievers". Once more we are back to the fact: Not unless he exists and has the power to do this.

396 4/84h: "- - - unbelievers - - -". One more of Muhammad's - for Muslims - negative names for non-Muslims.

397 4/84i: "- - - for Allah is the strongest in might - - -". A might he in case never clearly has proved.

398 4/84j: "- - - for Allah is the strongest in might - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which claims Yahweh is strongest - and Yahweh has proved himself if the old books tell the truth, whereas nothing is proved about Allah, except that he has not sent down the Quran - no omniscient god is behind a book of that quality. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

399 4/84k: "- - - for Allah is the strongest in - - - punishment - - -". A good and benevolent god? Also see 3/77b above.

400 4/85a: "- - - a good cause - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

401 4/85b: "- - - whoever recommends and helps an evil cause; shares its burden." Is f.x. indiscriminate killing by terrorists of persons who would not be sentenced to death in a normal court, part of a good or a bad cause? Is inflicting pain and terror on persons a normal court would not sentence to such a punishment - or raping a woman just because you have taken her captive and the Quran thus permits you to rape her and hurt or destroy her life, just because you want some minutes of pleasure and may be enjoy the feeling of power over a helpless victim, part of a good cause or a bad cause? Etc. No other of the large religions has such a rotten moral code as Islam on points like this - but you find similarities in some old and primitive and luckily more or less forgotten war religions; pagan religions. Also most big religions have moral philosophy/thinking, but Islam not - Islam only have the old code made from what Muhammad said and did (and Muhammad was not a very moral man - just look at what he demanded, wanted and did; deeds, introduced rules and moral standards, and demands, etc. are much more reliable than glorious words or propaganda). As for punishing and killing, the Quran says that no parent shall be punished for what their children do and the other way around - but many Muslims, not to mention terrorists, punishes far more remote relatives, or not relatives at all (f.x. innocent persons who just happen to be from a disliked country), and that killing of the innocent is a great sin.

402 4/85c: "- - - whoever recommends and helps an evil cause; shares its burden." This also should be the case for Muslim clergy - imams, mullahs, etc. - who incite to evil deeds, and NB; evil deeds according to normal moral codes, not the Islamic sometimes rather peculiar ones.

403 4/85d: "- - - an evil cause - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

404 4/85e: "- - - Allah hath power over all things". Often claimed, never proved. (And remember a proof is not just a claim or a reference to an authority. A proof is "one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". The reason why claimed proofs from Islam normally are invalid, is that they do not build on proved facts, only on loose words or claims - or on thin air).

405 4/85f: Un-Arabic word: Qur’an - from "qyrn", Syriac = “scriptural lesson” or “reading” (the word is used also MANY other places in and outside the Quran).

#406 4/86a: "When a (courteous) greeting i offered you, meet it with a greeting still more courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy". This sometimes is forgotten by Muslims during debates.

407 4/86b: "Allah takes careful account of all things". = Conform to the rules - and do not try to cheat, because Allah sees it. Good psychology from any leader who wants his followers to follow his rules.

408 4/87a: "There is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". See 2/255a above and 6/106b and 25/18a below - and for that case 2/165c above.

409 4/87b: "- - - of a surety He (Allah*) will gather you (people*) together against the Day of Judgment". Only if Allah exists, if he has made the rules in the Quran, and if the Quran in addition has made no mistakes on this point.

410 4/87c: "- - - of a surety He (Allah*) will gather you (people*) together against the Day of Judgment". Contradicted by the Bible, which claims it is Yahweh who does this. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

411 4/87d: "- - - a surety - - -". See 2/2b above.

412 4/87e: "- - - the Day of Judgment, about which there is no doubt." Wrong - there is good reason for doubt. There will come a last day for humanity - but there is no special reason to believe there will be a Day of Doom a la the one Islam claims. For one thing not one single thing is proved about this, and for another the claims are from a book so full of errors, that it is impossible to know what is correct and what not - except that such a book is not from a god. Strong and often blind belief is possible, but not blind knowledge. Blind knowledge simply is not knowledge.

413 4/87f: "- - - no doubt - - -". See 2/2b above.

414 4/87g: "And whose words can be truer than Allah's?" Allah - al-Lah - was a pagan main god from Arabia made sole god on basis of a book full of mistakes, contradictions, etc., dictated by a man of very doubtful morals - believing f.x. in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and even the breaking of oaths and on deceit - and a man liking power and riches (at least for bribes - and women), but unable to prove one single of his claims about his god or his connection to a god. Is this a god basis for believing what is said to be the truth? And 100% sure: If the Quran is Allah's words, much of his words are not the truth.

415 4/87h: "And whose words can be truer than Allah's?" Reality can be truer when Allah - or at least the Quran - is wrong; facts are facts even if a claimed god makes mistakes. And honestly: When Allah is wrong - like many places in the Quran - many a person can be truer.

416 4/87i: "And whose words can be truer than Allah's?" Contradicted by the Bible who claim Yahweh is the most reliable. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

417 4/88a: (A4/105 – in 2008 edition 4/107): “Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites?” Who were they? Muslim elite scholars like Ibn ‘Abbas and Tabari have speculated a lot, but the only result is “various conjectures”. And when top Islamic thinkers through 1400 years ends up with “various conjectures" – yes, then the language in the Quran is “clear and easy.”

418 4/88b: "- - - (evil) deeds - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

419 4/88c: "Would ye guide (by means of the Quran*) those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way?" Read f.x. about "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), and "the 11. hour (Matt 20/8-13). No further comments.

420 4/88d: “For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the way, never shalt thou find the way.” When Allah has decided – and he decides everything – there is no way to have things your own way. Yahweh on the other hand according to NT would NEVER throw anyone out of the way who honestly wanted to be in - and he would go far out of his way to lead those on a wrong track back to the right one. Cfr. f.x. "the lost sheep" (Matt.18/12-14). Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

421 4/88e: "- - - those whom Allah hath thrown out of the way - - -". But is it Allah or the fact that many of them see that something is seriously wrong with the Quran and with Islam, which make them look for other roads?

422 4/88f: "- - - the Way - - -". = The road to the Quran's Paradise.

423 4/89a: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

424 4/89b: “- - - take no friends from their (hypocrites’/non-Muslims‘*) ranks”. Direct order. No wonder Muslims often are reluctant mingling with non-Muslims. And there are many similar points in the Quran.

425 4/89c: "- - - (- - -what is forbidden) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

***426 4/89d: “But if they (the ones not believing strongly enough in the Quran and in Muhammad*) turn renegades (= leave Islam*), size them and slay them: and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their rank”. Two quotes from the New Testament: “Love your enemies”, “You shall not kill”. The ones believing Allah and Yahweh is the same god, has to study psychology.

###427 4/89e: "- - - seize them (the ones leaving the religion*) and slay them wherever you (Muslims*) find them - - -." To say the least of it: Contradicting Jesus' words in NT. It is not possible that the Quran and NT is from the same god - and not possible that Muhammad and Jesus is from the same line of prophets. Too different fundamental ideals, moral, ethics, etc. in the religions.

###328 4/89f: "- - - seize them (the ones leaving the religion*) and slay them wherever you (Muslims*) find them - - -." The religion of peace practicing no compulsion in religion.

####429 4/89g: "- - - seize them (the ones leaving the religion*) and slay them wherever you (Muslims*) find them - - -." You find nothing similar in NT. One of the really strong profs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Their moral codes at points are so different that there are no connections at all.

430 4/89h: "- - - and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their (non-Muslims'*) ranks - - -". Similar to 4/89b above, but stronger. How to integrate believing Muslims in other cultures?

431 4/89-90a: "But if they (Muslims*) turn renegades (leave Islam*), seize them and slay them wherever you find them; and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks; Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining from fighting you as well as fighting their own people." Background for the sharia laws.

432 4/89-90b: "But if they (Muslims*) turn renegades (leave Islam*), seize them and slay them wherever you find them; and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks; Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining from fighting you as well as fighting their own people." Such killing is totally opposed by the moral rules in NT - totally. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

433 4/90a: "- - - hearts restraining them (persons from the enemies*) from fighting you as well as fighting their own people". This refers to persons among the opposition who does not want to fight Islam - may be they wants to become Muslims even - but on the other hand cannot make themselves fight against their own people.

***434 4/90b: “- - - hearts restraining them (persons from the enemies*) from fighting you as well as fighting their own people”. The ideal is fighting for Muhammad/Allah. One of the many points in the Quran which singlehanded proves that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs.

435 4/90c: “If Allah had pleased - - -". See 14/19d below.

436 4/90d: “If Allah had pleased, He could have given them (the non-Muslim enemies*) power over you - - -”. Non-Muslims have had power many places at times. But it hardly was because it pleased or displeased Allah - Islam in case will have to prove such a claim.

#437 4/90e: “- - - if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them.)” That this verse both is contradicted and abrogated is very clear from among other facts, the reality that all the 4 law schools of Islam agreed on that the fact that “infidels” were not Muslims, was reason enough for declaring an attack on them holy war – jihad. This law was not even disputed until during the 1. half of the 20th century (ca. 1920 - 1930). This verse is contradicted and often “killed” and abrogated by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

**438 4/91a: “If they (“infidels”*) withdraw not from you, and nor give you (guarantees) of peace (remember that in nearly all the conflicts, the Muslims were the aggressors*) besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever you get them - - -.” No comments about “Let there be no Compulsion in Religion”. A clear and nice order. Not even an incitement, but an order. This verse contradicts (and abrogates) at least these verses (here are 88 out of the 124 Muslim scholars say are abrogated by 9/5): 2/109, 2/190, 2/256, 2/272, 3/20, 4/62, 4/81, 4/90, 5/3, 5/28, 5/48, 5/99, 6/60, 6/66, 6/70, 6/104, 6/107, 6/112, 6/158, 7/87, 7/188, 7/193, 7/199, 8/61, 9/68, 10/41, 10/99, 10/102, 10/108, 11/12, 11/121, 13/40, 15/3, 15/94, 16/35, 16/82, 16/125, 16/126, 16/127, 17/54, 18/29, 18/56, 19/39, 20/130, 21/107, 21/112, 22/49, 22/68, 23/54, 23/96, 24/54, 26/216, 27/92, 28/50, 28/55, 29/18, 29/46, 32/30, 34/25, 34/28, 35/23, 35/24a, 36/17, 39/41, 41/34, 42/6, 42/15, 42/48, 43/83, 43/89, 44/59, 45/14, 46/9, 46/135a, 46/135b, 46/135b, 50/39, 50/45, 51/50-51a, 51/54, 52/45, 52/47, 53/29, 67/26, 73/10, 73/11, 79/45, 86/17, 88/22, 109/6. They are all quoted under 9/5 in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran". (At least 88 contradictions).

##439 4/91b: "- - - seize them (unreliable non-Muslims*) and slay them wherever you (Muslims*) get them - - -.” Whoever believes NT and the Quran is from the same god, has never seen a Bible - let alone opened one. One more of the clear proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

440 4/91c: "- - - We (Allah*) have provided you (Muslims*) with a clear argument against them (non-Muslims you do not rely on*)". And the clear argument is: If you do not trust them, kill them - and how many non-Muslims do f.x. extremist Muslims rely on? The Quran and NT from the same god? You bet!!

**441 4/92a: “Never should a believer kill a believer - - -”. In the NT in the Bible the corresponding order is: “You shall not kill”. But non-Muslims of course count less and really do not matter. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

**442 4/92b: “Never should a believer kill a believer - - -”. In the NT in the Bible the corresponding order is: “You shall not kill”. But non-Muslims of course count less and really do not matter.

Every inch of building up discrimination may count for the leader of highwaymen and warriors. Inferior beings it is not bad to kill. In this case the verse simply may have been meant what it says - though even then it tells a lot about the mentality of the god - or man - behind Islam. And of course about Islam itself. But an intelligent man like Muhammad may have intended the other implications, too. Also see 4/93a below.

**443 4/92c: “Never should a believer kill a believer, but (if so happens) by mistake, (compensation is due): if one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing (!*) slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If he belonged to a people with whom ye have a treaty of mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running - - -". Background for the sharia laws. Also in those laws there of course is difference between the value of Muslims and non-Muslims.

#444 4/92d: "If the deceased (killed by accident*) belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing (Muslim*) slave (is enough)". If he on the other hand was not a Muslim, compensation is not even mentioned. And only a Muslim slave is sufficient for compensation. Non-Muslims do not count. Something to think over for non-Muslims in a possible future Muslim world?

445 4/92e: "If anyone finds it beyond their means (to free a Muslim (NB) slave) - - -". In connection to among others this verse and its expression according to M. Azad "- - - if anyone has not (the wherewithal) - - -" you may find - or meet - a nice sample of Islamic honesty in debate - or in propaganda: (A58/7): "As regard the phrase 'he who does not find the wherewithal (lam yajid)', it may indicate either lack of financial means or the impossibility of finding anyone else who could be redeemed from factual of figurative bondage (- - -). According to many Islamic scholars of our times (e.g., Rashid Rida - - -), this relates, in first instance, to circumstances in which 'slavery will have been abolished in accordance with the aim of Islam' (Manar V, 337)'". This simply is an al-Taqiyya - a lawful lie - and even a distasteful such one.

First note that the translation of the Arab text is changed a little compared to Yusuf Ali's one, and "by coincidence"(?) fits the "explanation" of the claim about Islam's intention of abolishing slavery better. The Quran in reality is clear on that it speaks about the economy of the person.

There is nowhere in the Quran said that slavery is bad or for other reasons should be terminated,

There is nowhere in the Quran even indicated that slavery is bad or for other reasons should be terminated. Not one place.

There is nowhere in the Quran said or in other ways indicated that slavery is morally wrong.

There is nowhere in the Quran even indicated that it would be good moral or good ethics to abolish slavery. To set free a slave - at least a Muslim slave - is a good thing, but slavery as an institution is nowhere attacked or even questioned.

The main Islamic idol - Muhammad - took and traded (sold or gave away for bribes) at least a few thousand slaves and expressed no qualms for doing this. Everything Muhammad said - or not said - or did, is the right thing to do for any Muslim, if it is not directly prohibited (f. x. a Muslim can have only 4 wives - a number mentioned in the Quran - as he is forbidden to have as many as Muhammad had).

Muslim countries were forced backwards and kicking and protesting into abolishing slavery - Mauritania as late as in unbelievable 1982 AD (and made it a punishable crime as late as in 2007 AD)!! - by forces and ideas from the west. We at least have never seen a Muslim whisper from old times about abolishing slavery as an institution.

Abolishing slavery is a "new idea" and a "foreign idea" in Islam. Such ideas were not accepted by Islam through most of Islam's history - well, necessity after long time made some "new ideas" acceptable if they clearly were in accordance with ideas in the Quran or strong Hadiths. We have found nowhere in older Islamic literature where the "new idea" of abolishing slavery was even aired, not to mention received serious backing.

The claim that Islam/Muhammad/the Quran promotes abolishing of slavery you ONLY meets from Muslim scholars born and raised in modern times - times when foreign, mainly Western, thinking, has made slavery extremely immoral. As it is not only permitted in Islam to lie, but advised "if necessary" to defend or promote the religion (and permitted in a number of other wide cases - f.x. to cheat women or save your money), this al-Taqiyya (lawful lie) is launched: 'Islam is the best also on this - Islam all the time intended to abolish slavery". (You even meet Muslims boasting that Islam forced Europe to end slavery, by stopping the trade from Africa. This simply is nonsense. For one thing European slaves mainly came from the Slavic areas in the East - it was not for nothing that the name "slave" was coined. And for another there hardly has been an area or a time in all history where trade between areas and countries and cultures has stopped for long times if good profit was possible to make. Slavery in Europe died out partly because in agriculture in chilly countries the work season is short and slaves had to be fed all the year, and ordinary workers were cheap, but mainly because it was opposed to Christian basic moral and ideas (this even though it is not directly discredited or forbidden in the Bible).

There are in the world today some 24 million humans "living as slaves or under slave-like conditions" according to UN (the number is from 2006 if we remember correctly). A good percentage of these live in Islamic areas. We have seen little or nothing of negative reactions from Islam or Muslims to this fact. There may have been, but in case not enough to reach us, even though we have been looking for such reactions.

As abolishing of slavery as mentioned is "a new idea" and on top of that "a foreign idea" both of which are despised by conservative Islam, and as Muhammad showed what was right and wrong for Islam in this question by taking and trading and keeping slaves (f. x. his concubines Marieh and Rayhana bint Amr), you can be pretty sure that if the world ever returns to medieval conditions, official slavery will reemerge in Islamic areas "lawful and good".

So much for this Islamic al-Taqiyya - lawful lie.

446 4/92f: "- - - Allah hath all knowledge and wisdom". Not if he made the Quran. Also see 2/233h above.

447 4/93a: “If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell - - -”. Not a word is said about killing a non-Muslim intentionally. Compare NT: "You shall not kill". But then there is the difference that Muslims are valuable, non-Muslims less so. Also see 4/92b above.

448 4/93b: "- - - to abide therein (Hell*) (for ever) - - -". But the verses 6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74d, 51/13c, and 78/23 indicate that may be Hell is not quite forever - at least not for Muslims. (and 11/108c also may indicate that not even the Quran's Paradise is forever).

449 4/93c: "- - - a dreadful penalty - - -". See 3/77b above.

450 4/94a: "- - - ye who believe!" = Muslims - only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

451 4/94b: "When ye (Muslims*) go abroad in the cause of Allah (here: To wage war - this expression often in the Quran is synonymous with waging war*) - - -". When you go abroad for waging war, it normally is a war of aggression, not of defense - and this so definitely was the case for Islam, too. It is symptomatic that nearly all raids and wars of Muhammad, were wars of aggression - but named jihad (holy war) anyhow. Even the battles of Badr, Uhud and the Trench in reality were battles in a war of aggression started and kept alive by Muhammad's raids for wealth against Mecca's caravans, etc.

452 4/94c: "When ye (Muslims*) go abroad in the cause of Allah (here: To wage war - this expression often in the Quran is synonymous with waging war*) - - -". To go abroad to fight in the cause of the god is unheard of in OT and strongly contradicted by the thinking and moral rules in NT. One more of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

453 4/94d: “Say not (warrior during raid/war*) to anyone who offers you solution: ‘Thou art none of a believer!” – coveting the perishable goods of this life - - -.” Most of Arabia and many other places were turned Islamic in this way – people became Muslims to save life and what they owned. But some were not believed or pretended not to be believed, so that the warriors could steal – or kill or rape – as they wished. It is told in the Hadiths that Muhammad disliked cases where the victims said they were Muslims and all the same were killed - this verse may - may - be a try to stop such cases.

But it is thought provoking that the rule only was and is for Muslim victims - anyone else you can kill to steal his property or enslave his family (enslavement is more difficult today, but ok in the Quran).

454 4/94e: "- - - with Allah are profits and spoils abundant". Fight wars for Allah and get profits and spoils aplenty! Stealing/robbing, raping, enslaving, was an essential part of raids and wars for many of the warriors - and leaders. Compare this to NT and the New Covenant, and not even weeping can express the abyss between the religions. The same god?

455 4/94f: "- - - with Allah are profits and spoils abundant". One more sentence which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

456 4/94g: (A118 (A120 in the 2008 English edition)): “Even thus were ye yourself before - - -.” Literal meaning: “thus have you (too) been aforetime”. Does this refer to the feeble start of Islam in Mecca? – or to you personally before you became a Muslim or Allah helped you in other ways? – or the same for a community? – or for a country? The context favors the first meaning, but it is far from clear. And if that is the meaning: Why does Allah make a purely Arab religion based on Arabia 600-650 AD + legends and contorted stories picked up in Arabia during the same period of time about neighboring religions, etc., if he is omnipotent, omniscient and clairvoyant and wants to create a universal, timeless religion?

457 4/94h: "- - - therefore carefully investigate (if they were Muslims or not)". If they were Muslims you should not kill them. If not you could do so and steal their property, rape and enslave their families, etc. Some contradiction to NT's strong: "You shall not kill". Yahweh and Allah the same god? Simply no. One more sentence which alone proves that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

458 4/94i: "For Allah is well aware of all that ye do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

##459 4/95a: “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive in the cause of Allah with their goods and their person". Background for the sharia laws.

##460 4/95b: “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive in the cause of Allah with their goods and their person. Allah hath granted a grad higher to those who strive with their goods and their persons”. Clear words: Go to war or terrorism and end in a better part of Paradise - there are at least 4 or 6 different qualities of Gardens there + the higher heavens according to the Quran. Incitement “de luxe”.

##461 4/95c: “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive in the cause of Allah with their goods and their person." You find nothing similar to this in the Bible. In OT the Jews fought to gain a country and later to defend it, in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

462 4/95d: "- - - strive in the cause of Allah - - -". In the Quran this expression normally means to wage war on claimed behalf of Allah and Muhammad and later leaders.

463 4/95e: "- - - strive in the cause of Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible - in OT the Jews fought to gain a country and later to defend it, in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

464 4/95f: "Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive (fight*) with their goods and persons than those who sit (at home)". Strongly contradicted by especially in NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

#465 4/95g: “Unto all (in Faith (= all Muslims*)) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by special reward -.” Are any comments necessary? - except f.x. compare this to NT. The Quran is war and murder. Compare it to the pacifistic and anti-war NT or f.x. Buddhism!

What a nice verse for a terrorist!

But what if the Quran is a made up book? - by man or dark forces? (with all its mistakes, etc. it is not from any god). Where will Muslims end if there is a next life?

#466 4/95h: “Unto all (in Faith (= all Muslims*)) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by special reward -". But what is such a promise worth unless Allah exists and is a powerful god?

#467 4/95i: “Unto all (in Faith (= all Muslims*)) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by special reward -". Strongly contradicted by especially in NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and one of those many proofs which each alone proves this. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

468 4/95j: "- - - (in Faith) - - -". = In Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

469 4/95k: "- - - a special reward - - -". Paradise - or at least an easier way there.

470 4/95+96a: “- - - those who strive hath Allah distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward – Ranks specially bestowed by Him (Allah*), and Forgiveness (for anything if you are killed in battle*) and Mercy.” No doubt who is the best Muslim and what is the best deed in Islam – the warrior and the war are most pleasing to Allah. (To call Islam “The religion of peace” is an insult to the intelligence of everybody who has read the surahs from Medina with an open mind.)

471 4/95+96b: “- - - those who strive hath Allah distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward – Ranks specially bestowed by Him (Allah*), and Forgiveness (for anything if you are killed in battle*) and Mercy.” The total and 180 degree difference from NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and one of those many proofs which each alone proves this.

472 4/96a: "- - - Forgiveness - - -". Allah can forgive only if he exists and if he is a real god.

473 4/96b: "For Allah is Oft-Forgiving - - -". See 4/96a just above.

474 4/96c: "For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

475 4/97a: "When the angels take the souls - - -." A small (?) contradiction: Other places it is Allah or the Angel of Death who does this, not "angels" in plural.

476 4/97b: "- - - (from evil) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like "evil" it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

477 4/97c: "Such men (women as normal is forgotten in the Quran*) will find their abode in Hell - - -". See 3/77b above.

478 4/99a: "- - - forgive - - -". Allah can forgive only if he exists and if he is a real god.

479 4/99b: "- - - Allah doth blot out (sins)again and again". This he can do only if he exists and if he really is a god - there only is the words of a not much reliable man for both, and a man who had much to gain from making people believe that this claimed god existed.

480 4/100a: “He who forsakes his home in the cause of Allah - - - should he die as a refugee from home for Allah and his Messenger, his reward becomes due and sure with Allah - - -”. Even if you do not die in battle, just die in war - f.x. from illness or accident - or if he has had to flee from persecution, it seems like you go directly to Paradise. (Perhaps this also goes for refugees). War for Allah really is valuable for Muslims - - - if the Quran tells the truth. A fact(?) any terrorist "knows" - most of them are Muslims.

481 4/100b: “He who forsakes his home in the cause of Allah - - - should he die as a refugee from home for Allah and his Messenger, his reward becomes due and sure with Allah - - -”. Too different from the Bible - there it only is your belief in the god and your life in accordance with his rules for (real) good moral which can save you in a possible next life. To suffer for Yahweh is on par with doing good deeds, but alone no guarantee for Paradise. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god.

482 4/100c: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his platform of power - his god.

483 4/100d: "- - - (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -! See 63/5a below.

484 4/100e: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

485 4/100f: "- - - his (dead Muslim*) reward becomes due and sure with Allah - - -". This only is possible if Allah exists and if he really is a god - there only are the words of a not reliable man seeking power for both.

486 4/100g: "- - - sure - - -". See 2/2b above.

487 4/100h: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

488 4/101a: "When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for the fear that the unbelievers may attack you: for the unbelievers are unto you open enemies". You do not find similar in the Bible - especially to Jesus and the NT unbelievers were not automatically enemies.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

489 4/101b: "- - - for the unbelievers are unto you open enemies." Not strange when you attack and rob them frequently enough.

490 4/101c: "- - - for the unbelievers are unto you open enemies." An unmistakable message - no good basis for building trust between religions, or for integration of Muslims in non-Islamic cultures. Hate mongering simply.

491 4/101d: "- - - unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad’s many negative names for non-Muslims.

492 4/102a: "When thou (O Messenger (Muhammad*)) art with them (Muslims*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

493 4/102b: "- - - (O Messenger (Muhammad*)) - - -". See 63/5a below.

494 4/102c: (A4/130 – in 2008 English edition A4/132): “But there is no blame on you if ye put away your arms because of the inconvenience of rain - - -” – i.e. if your weapons could be damaged by rain according to “The Message of the Quran”. But the only weapons they had which could be damaged by rain, were things made from iron which could rust – mainly the sword (arrows were for use and perhaps only once, and a little rust did not matter much) and coats-of-mail – and from skin or leather which could grow soft (on shields + coats of leather – not as good a defense as coats-of-mail, but much cheaper). But they knew ever so well that use a little fat on iron, and it does not rust, and impregnate skin/leather with fat, and it repels water. Then why this sentence? Well, there also are other meanings of the Arab word “matar” (= rain), as it also means (translated from Swedish) “duress”, “dire need”, “accident”, “an affliction”. The real meaning may thus be very different - f.x.: “But there is no blame on you if you put away your arms if you suffer from an affliction”. Not “a clear and easy to understand” language used by this god (?). At least - at least - two very different meanings. And these variants also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word there has more than one meaning.

495 4/102d: "- - - unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad’s many negative names for non-Muslims.

496 4/102e: "For the unbelievers Allah hath prepared a humiliating punishment." See 3/77b above.

497 4/103a: (YA619): “When ye, pass (congregational) prayers - - -.” 2 meanings possible: “When ye have finished congregational prayers”, or “When (because of grave danger) ye have to pass over congregational prayers - - -.” Pick your choice. At least: Clear language (?).

498 4/103b: "- - - set up regular prayers: for such prayers are enjoined on believers on stated times". The 5 fixed prayers is one of the pillars of Islam. If Yahweh had meant the number and times of prayers were of any essence to him, he had enjoined it on the Jews and Christians. But such rules are not mentioned anywhere in the Bible. Because they are so essential in the Quran, but completely of no interest to Yahweh - he says pray when you want or need - this is one of the real strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. (And a curiosa here: If Allah has no connection to the old Jewish god Yahweh, Abraham and Ishmael and the others are not part of Islam. Well, this in case is no surprise - there are more indications for the same.)

499 4/103c: "- - - believers - - -". = Muslims - only Muslims are believers according to the Quran.

500 4/104a: "And slacken not in following up the enemy - - -". The religion of peace (!!). (Compare it to NT: Forgive your enemy.)

501 4/104b: "And slacken not in following up the enemy - - -". Absolutely contradicted by NT. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and in addition there are all the other proofs. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

502 4/104c: "- - - ye (Muslims*) have hope from Allah, while they (non-Muslims*) have none". Wrong. They had hope in their god/gods. But one of these two parts likely were wrong - perhaps both. Contradicted by the Bible. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

503 4/104d: "Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom". Not if the Quran is representative for it.

504 4/105a: (A131 – in the 2008 edition A133): “We (Allah*) have sent down to thee the Book (the Quran*) - - -.” The word thee/thou/ye/you often is used in ways that makes it difficult to decide who “you” is (f.x. you have the same in 4/113). Here it is likely, but far from sure, that it means Muhammad. But it may also mean “you Muslims” or “you people”, etc. – and some places the guesswork is more difficult and the answer more unsure than here. Far from a “clear and easily understood” language” – any omniscient god should be able to do better than this.

505 4/105b: “We (Allah*) have sent down to thee the Book (the Quran*) - - -”. With so many mistakes and dubious arguments - can it really be sent down by a god? No.

506 4/105c: “We (Allah*) have sent down to thee the Book (the Quran*) in truth, - - -”. With so many mistakes, it is without doubt that it at best can be only partly true (if not there had been no mistakes).

507 4/105d: "- - - in truth - - -". See 2/2b above, and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

508 4/105e: "- - - as guided by Allah (= the Quran*) - - -". See 7/192a and 16/107 below.

509 4/105f: "- - - those who betray their trust - - -". Hypocrites and/or doubters.

510 4/106a: "- - - the forgiveness of Allah - - -". Only 2 can forgive - the victim and a god. Thus Allah can forgive if he is the victim - which he never is unless he exists - or if he is a god.

511 4/106b: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

512 4/107a: "Contend not on behalf of such as betray their own souls - - -". Well, a clear order. But different from - and contradicting the moral of - "search for the lost lamb" in NT.

513 4/107b: "- - - such as betray their own souls - - -" = the ones who leave Islam, or may be all non-Muslims - one of Muhammad's many intended negative names for non-Muslims.

514 4/107c: "- - - Allah loveth not one given to perfidy and crime". A most thought provoking sentence, as much of what the partly immoral Islamic moral code permits or even encourages, is crime or worse according to all normal moral codes and normal moral philosophy, the essence of which is "do against others like you want others do against you", (beware here that the Quran - and Islam - has no moral or ethical philosophy, only an old and partly immoral moral code = "what did Muhammad say or do in such a situation?").

515 4/108a: "They (non-Muslims*) may hide (their crimes) from men, but they cannot hide (them) from Allah - - -". Cheer up - Allah will punish them. And also a reminder: Do not try to cheat, because Allah will see you, too.

516 4/108b: "- - - Allah doth compass round (= notice and outdo *) all that they do." A moral infusion: Allah will punish "them". And a whip: Allah will see if I so something Muhammad will not like.

517 4/108c: "- - - Allah doth compass round (= notice and outdo*) all that they do." One of the alibis for al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), deceiving, etc. in Islam - if Allah can outdo bad people, all Muslims have the permission to do the same as long as it is not prohibited - which it is not (the Quran is not teaching an absolute on honesty - even oaths can be broken).

 

518 4/109a: "- - - but who will contend with Allah on their (hypocrites', non-Muslims'*) behalf on the Day of Judgment - - -". None of course - they are too bad. At least if it should not happen that their belief was the right one.

519 4/109b: "- - - but who will contend with Allah on their (hypocrites', non-Muslims'*) behalf on the Day of Judgment - - -". According to the Bible it is Yahweh you will have to contend with that day.

520 4/110a: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

521 4/110b: "- - - wrongs his own soul - - -". = To sin.

522 4/110c: "- - - (to*) wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

523 4/110d: "- - - Allah (is*) Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

524 4/111a: "- - - earn sin - - -". How can anyone earn sin if it is Allah who predestines everything everyone does, like the Quran claims many places? Predestination actually is one of the cornerstones of the Quran, not to mention for Muhammad's recruiting of warriors. Muhammad actually placed more stress on predestination in later years. (On the other hand full predestination like the Quran claims many places is impossible to combine with the claim that man has free will (and thus are responsible for his deeds) or with the claim that prayers can have any effect).

525 4/111b: "- - - Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom". Not if the Quran is representative for it.

526 4/112: "- - - if anyone earns a fault or a sin - - -". How can anyone earn sin if it is Allah who predestines everything everyone does, like the Quran claims many places? Predestination actually is one of the cornerstones of the Quran. Also see 4/111a above.

527 4/113a: "- - - the Grace of Allah - - -". See 1/1a above.

528 4/113b: "- - - His (Allah's*) Mercy - - -". See 1/1a above.

529 4/113c: "But (in fact) they (non-Muslims*) will only lead their own soul astray - - -:" Because of all the wrongs in the Quran, everything there is doubtful if it is not proved, included this - at least it is no proved fact. And if they believed in Yahweh or some other perhaps existing god, there is a chance that they were not led astray especially if Allah is a made up one, which is highly likely as the Quran with all its mistakes is from no god.

530 4/113d: "- - - (in fact) - - -". See 2/2b above.

531 4/113e: ”For Allah hath sent down to thee the Book (the Quran*). See 4/105a+b+c above.

532 4/113f: “For Allah hath sent down to thee the Book (the Quran*) and Wisdom - - - “. As said before - f.x. in 4/105a+b+c - there is good reason for doubt as to if the Quran is sent down by a god, and no reason for doubt that much of the contents are not true - not much wisdom.

533 4/113g: "- - - (Allah has*) thought thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) what thou knewest not (before) - - -". At least someone has done so. The big question is if the teaching is right or wrong. At least some of it is morally highly wrong, not to mention all the wrong facts it gives.

534 4/113h: "- - - great is the Grace of Allah unto thee (Muhammad/Muslims*)". Only if he exists and is a major god.

535 4/113i: "- - - the Grace of Allah - - -". See 1/1a above.

536 4/114a: "- - - We (Allah*) shall soon give a reward of the highest (value) (Paradise*)". Often claimed, never proved - and a claim any "prophet" can make on behalf of his god(s) free of charge as long as the demands for proofs can be evaded.

537 4/114b: "- - - We (Allah*) shall soon give a reward of the highest (value) (Paradise*)". But is a paradise of mainly bodily pleasures the highest value?

538 4/115a: "If anyone contends with the Messenger (Muhammad*) even after guidance has been plainly conveyed to him (he ends in Hell*)". Disagree with Muhammad and you end in Hell! The perfect commandment for the total dictator.

539 4/115b: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 93/5a below.

540 4/115c: "- - - the Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

541 4/115d: "- - - guidance - - -". There is not much guidance in a religion built on a book with so much wrong like the Quran.

542 4/115e: "- - - plainly - - -". See 2/2b above.

543 4/115f: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

544 4/115g: "- - - We (Allah*) shall leave him in the (claimed wrong*) path he has chosen - - -". Very different from "search the lost sheep" in NT - contradicting the basic idea of NT on this point. Impossibly the same religion. And Jesus and Muhammad impossibly can be in the same line of prophets when they express so fundamentally different teachings.

545 4/115h: “We (Allah*) shall leave him (the one on a track not to Islam's Paradise) in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell”. It is mathematically sure it is not the same god as in NT - cfr. "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10), "the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), "the 11. hour" (Matt.20/8-13). (NB: This is one of the places where the translation differs a little in the last edition).

546 4/115i: “We (Allah*) shall leave him (the one on a track not to Islam's Paradise) in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell”. What if he has chosen the path to Yahweh? - Yahweh exists even according to the Quran, even though the book wrongly mixes him with Allah.

547 4/115j: "- - - and land him (non-Muslim*) in Hell - - -". See 3/77b above.

548 4/115k: "- - - and land him (non-Muslim*) in Hell - - -". Allah can land nobody anywhere unless he exists and is a god.

549 4/116a: “Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this - - -.” This in reality is identical to 4/48a-f above. See this. Also see 25/18a below.

550 4/116b: "- - - one who joins gods with Allah - - -". Non-Muslims do not join gods with Allah. They simply do not believe he exists, and believe in their own god(s). An exception may be the old Arabs, who believed in their main pagan god, al-Lah, which Muhammad claimed in reality was the only god Allah - this in case is one of the Arabisms in the Quran.

551 4/116c: "- - - one who joins gods with Allah, hath strayed far, far away (from the Right)". Only if Allah really exists and is correctly described in the Quran. Not if another god they believe in - f.x. Yahweh - really exists, and especially if Allah on top of all is a made up god - quite likely as the Quran is not from any god. Also see 2/165c and 2/255a above and 6/106b and 25/18a below.

552 4/116d: "- - - Right - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

553 4/117: (A138 – in the 2008 edition A140): “(The Pagans) leaving Him (Allah’), call but upon female deities - - -.” This may be correct, as Arab “inath” may mean “a female being”. But is also may mean “inanimate things” (Lance I, 112) or “lifeless symbols”. May be the real meaning is something like “- - - call but on your lifeless (wooden) idols - - -.”? Not a language “clear and easy to understand.”

554 4/118a: "Allah did curse him - - -". "Him" here refers to Iblis - the Quran's Satan/Devil.

555 4/118b: "- - - a portion marked off - - -". This indicates that the ones bound for Hell, have a recognizable mark - and it also once more confirms the predestination in the Quran.

556 4/119a: "I (Iblis, the Muslim Devil*) will mislead them (humans*) - - -". As the Quran is not from a god, one possibility is that it is from the Devil and made to mislead them. The immoral parts of its moral code, the unjust and/or immoral parts of the sharia laws, not to mention the inhuman rules for behavior in war, etc. may indicate this. Irony in case.

557 4/119b: "- - - I (Iblis, the Muslim Devil*) will create in them (humans*) false desires - - -". Here we are back to the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, which permits Muslims to go for a lot of immoral desires. Study the Quran's moral code, compare it to "do against others like you want others do against you", and see for yourself.

558 4/119c: "- - - nature created by Allah - - -". See f.x. 2/22d above and 11/7a and 21/56c below.

559 4/119d: "Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes Satan for a friend - - -". The one does not necessarily implicate the other, especially if Allah just is a dressed up, non-existing pagan god (al-Lah - renamed by Muhammad to Allah - simply was the main Arab pagan god at that time). And especially not if there exist other real gods - f.x. Yahweh.

560 4/119e: "- - - manifest". See 2/2b above.

561 4/120a: "Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; But Satan’s promises are nothing but deception". One of the possible creators of the Quran, is Satan - this even more so as all the mistakes, contradictions, etc. make it clear that it is not made by a god, and in addition parts of the Quran's moral code fits better a devil than a benevolent god. If this is the truth - and all the satanic "unmoral" in the Quran after all may indicate this - this verses is very informative (but actually we personally believe that not even devils would make a book with so many errors - the only really believable creator is a (or some) human(s)). (There is one possible exception, though; if the Devil only got permission from the god for trying to cheat people into a made up religion, only on the condition that it should be easy for thinking persons to see through the trap.)

562 4/120b: "- - - false desires - - -". See 4/119b above.

563 4/120c: "- - - but Satan's promises are nothing but deception". An interesting piece of information if Satan is the real maker of the Quran and f.x. the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code may indicate that something dark is involved..

564 4/121a: "They (Satan's dupes*) will have their dwelling in Hell - - -". See 3/77b above.

565 4/121b: "- - - from there (Hell*) they (non-Muslims*) will find no way of escape". But at least Hell may not be forever - these points may indicate this: 6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74d, 51/13c, 78/23. Number 11/108c also may indicate that even the Quran's paradise is not forever.

566 4/122a: "- - - those who believe - - -". = Muslims.

567 4/122b: "- - - deeds of righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

568 4/122c: "- - - Gardens - - -". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

569 4/122d: "- - - Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath - - -". The dream of desert dwellers is a paradise with plenty of water - the most frequent Arabism in the Quran. See 4/13d above.

570 4/122e: "- - - Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath - - -". The most frequently used Arabism in the Quran. See 4/13d above.

571 4/122f: "- - - to dwell therein (Paradise*) forever". 11/108c may indicate that Paradise is not forever. Muslims explains it with that the residents will be transferred to an even better place, but this is not said in the Quran.

572 4/122g: "Allah's promise is the truth - - -." Is it? - there are too many points which are not the truth in the Quran. Also see 2/2b above. Besides there in all history and prehistory have never been one single proved case of Allah keeping a promise - many claims, but not one proved case.

573 4/122h: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/2b above and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

574 4/122i: "- - - whose words can be truer than Allah's?". Very many, if the Quran is the kind of "truths" Allah tells, not to mention if Allah is something made up. We may also mention Yahweh. Also see 57/8a below.

575 4/123a: "- - - the People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". = Jew and Christians mainly, but also the Sabeans (most likely the inhabitants of the mainly Christian Saba/Sabah/Sheba in what now is Yemen, but see 2/62f above).

576 4/123b: "- - - the People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". A not understandable expression before the book was written - a historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

577 4/123c: "- - - whoever works evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

578 4/123d: "Nor will he (non-Muslim*) find, besides Allah, any protector or helper". Perhaps not besides Allah - especially if Allah does not exist - but perhaps instead of Allah - - - if f.x. Yahweh exists?

###579 4/124a: "If any do deeds of righteousness - - - and have faith, they will enter Heaven - - -". Here is one of the fundamental differences between Islam and Christianity: In Islam what count is faith and good deeds. In NT the main things are faith and the belief in your god - good deeds counts, but the major point is your belief in your god and forgiveness from him.

580 4/124b: "- - - deeds of righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

581 4/124c: "- - - faith - - -". = Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

582 4/124d: "- - - they (Muslims*) will enter Heaven - - -". If the Quran represents a god and in addition tells the full truth and only the truth.

583 4/124e: "- - - and not the least injustice shall be done to them (Muslims*)". If the Quran tells the truth and only the truth about everything.

584 4/124f: "- - - and not the least injustice shall be done to them (Muslims*)". Injustice according to the Quran's moral code, or injustice in accordance to how well they have lived after the real and fundamental moral law: "Do onto others what you want others do onto you"?

585 4/124g: "- - - injustice - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

586 4/125a: "Who can do better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah - - -". Anybody if Allah does not exist - and there are at least 3 very good indications for that he is fiction: 1) Muhammad was never able to prove anything. 2) Allah has never in 1400 years given the slightest clear indication for his existence. 3) And the Quran is not from a god - no god would ever be connected to a book of that quality.

587 4/125b: "Who can do better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah - - -". Well, the Bible claims it is better to submit to Yahweh.

588 4/125c: "- - - does good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. F.x. one of the best deeds is to wage raids and wars and suppress - and worse - others.

589 4/125d: "- - - true - - -". See 2/2b above.

590 4/125e: "- - - faith - - -". See 4/124b above.

591 4/125f: "- - - the way of Abraham the true of faith - - -". If the Quran is a made up book, there are every indication for that there is no connection between Abraham/Ishmael and Arabia, and no connection between Abraham and Islam. It at least is clear that the Quran with all its errors is not from a god.

592 4/125g: "For Allah did take Abraham for a friend". Often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere - and according to the Bible it was Yahweh who was Abraham's friend - - - if Abraham ever existed.

593 4/125h: "- - - Abraham - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

594 4/126a: "- - - to Allah belong all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved - and it is one of those many claims any believer in any religion can make on behalf of his god(s) as long as he does not have to prove anything.

595 4/126b: "- - - to Allah belong all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". The Bible claims it belongs to Yahweh.

596 4/126c: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d above.

597 4/126d: "- - - He (Allah*) is it that encompasseth all things". We are back to the old black fact: This claim only can be true if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth about everything. And if Allah really exists and is a major god.

598 4/126e: "- - - He (Allah*) is it that encompasseth all things". The Bible claims it is Yahweh who does this.

599 4/127a: “They ask thy (Muhammad’s*) instruction concerning women. Say: Allah doth instruct you about them: and (remember) what hath been rehearsed unto you in the Book, concerning the orphans of women to whom ye give not the portions prescribed, and yet whom ye want to marry, as also concerning the children who are weak and oppressed: that ye stand firm for justice to orphans". Some of the background for the sharia laws.

600 4/127b: “They ask thy (Muhammad’s*) instruction concerning women. Say: Allah doth instruct you about them - - -”. Treat them like the Quran instructs you. The Quran has no instruction the other way round, though. Besides: Even if the Quran is not too bad against woman in some ways, in other ways the “instructions” in the Quran are such that no man would accept it for himself - - - and no human should demand that other humans have to live under conditions he will refuse himself, and especially not that his closest family - wife and daughters - should be forced to live like that. Also: In spite of what Muslims like to claim, Islam represented a step towards the worse for women most places - they refer to strict rules in Mecca, and "forget" that women most places were much freer than in Mecca. Even in Medina they were better off until Islam took over. (F.x. some of Muhammad's nearest co-workers in Medina complained about the freedom of the women there, according to Hadiths.)

601 4/127c: “- - - and (remember) what hath been rehearsed unto you in the Book, concerning the (girl*) orphans of women to whom ye give not the portions prescribed, and yet whom ye desire to marry, as also concerning the children who are weak and oppressed; that ye stand firm for justice to orphans.” If you had a young orphan girl in the house, the temptation to make her an additional wife for you could be considerable - especially if she had inherited riches.

602 4/127d: “- - - the orphans of women - - -.” Does this mean orphans after widows that have died? – or female children? Islam does not know. A clear(?) language “doctored” by the translator – there is too much of that in translations of the Quran (though A. Yusuf Ali is not too bad).

603 4/127e: "- - - stand firm for the justice to orphans". One of the plusses for the Quran, is its insisting on good treatment of orphans. This may be because Muhammad himself early became an orphan.

604 4/127f: "- - - good deeds - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

605 4/127g: "- - - Allah is well acquainted therewith". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below. And also: Do not cheat - Allah sees you.

606 4/128a: “If a wife fears cruelty or dissertation on her husband’s part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves (husband and wife*); and such settlement is best - - -.” Muhammad was not very fond neither of family troubles nor of divorces, so that even though he made divorces easy, especially for men, he – and Islam – favors settlements and stability (stability also makes administration and ruling easier for the ruler).

607 4/128b: “If a wife fears cruelty or dissertation on her husband’s part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves (husband and wife*); and such settlement is best - - -.” Part of the background for the sharia laws.

608 4/128c: "- - - do good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

609 4/128d: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with all ye (Muslims*) do". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below. Though in just this case it may be meant as a "carrot" for a peaceful settlement.

610 4/129a: “Ye are never able to be fair and just between women (wives*) - - -”. This sentence is often used by Muslims as a "proof" for that polygamy (many wives) is not much used in Muslim societies. The trouble is, though, that this paragraph is a most sleeping one for men who can afford and really wants more wives. (Also serial monogamy - frequent divorces and marriages - exists. Media have reported up to more than 60 marriages for a man. Among Shi’a Muslims also short time/fixed time marriages exists - marriage for a month, f.x.)

611 4/129b: "- - - Allah (is*) Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

612 4/129c: (A4/145, English 2008 edition A4/147):"Ye are never able to be fair and just between women (wives*) - - -". This is how Muslims makes it possible - we quote (translated from Swedish): "- - - in other words, that the required equality in treatment relates only to the outward behavior towards and practical dealing with one's wives". Very sufficient that is for the women! But Islam has to have some such explanation, as it is well known that Muhammad preferred some wives - especially the child and later teen-ager Aishah - above others. As long as the formalities are right, the human values which is what really should count in a marriage, does not matter.

613 4/130a: "But if they (a married couple*) disagree (and must part), Allah will provide abundance for all - - -". This is so obviously wrong that we do not squander time on comments - poverty is the result for all too many of the women.

614 4/130b: "- - - Allah is He that careth for all - - -". But there have not been one single case in all history or prehistory where it is proved that Allah cared for anybody at all. Not one single case - only some claims and words.

615 4/130c: "- - - Allah - - - is Wise". Perhaps - if he exists. But in case he shows little of it in the Quran.

616 4/131a: "To Allah belong all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth". Often claimed, never proved. It also is one of those many claims any believer can make on behalf of his god(s), as long as he can evade the demands for proofs.

617 4/131b: "To Allah belong all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth". Contradicted by the Bible, which claims it belongs to Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

618 4/131c: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

619 4/131d: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

620 4/131e: “- - - We (Allah*) have directed the People of the Book before you (Muslims*) - - -.” Wrong. The "People of the Book" believe in Yahweh, and Allah and Yahweh is not the same god – not unless the god is seriously ill mentally – the teachings are too different and Islam also never has been able to do anything but claiming that it is the same god – never a proof or any kind of documentation. They only show you to a book with very many mistakes, (told by a very doubtful man who also never was able to prove anything) and wrongly claim – without documentation also here – that this is a proof. After all a proof is "one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". The "signs" and "proofs" in the Quran all are invalid, perhaps with the exception "borrowed" from the Bible, and which in case prove Yahweh - mostly because they do not build on proved facts, only on claims or on nothing.

621 4/131f: “- - - We (Allah*) have directed the People of the Book before you (Muslims*) - - - to fear Allah.” Wrong - the "People of the Book" were directed to fear Yahweh.

622 4/131g: "- - - the People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". = Jews and Christians mainly, but also the Sabeans (most likely the inhabitants of the mainly Christian Saba/Sabah/Sheba in what now is Yemen - see 2/62f above).

623 4/131h: "- - - the People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

624 4/131i: "- - - unto Allah belong all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved. Claims are cheap.

625 4/131j: "- - - unto Allah belong all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says this belongs to Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

626 4/131k: “- - - heavens - - -“ (plural, but the number not mentioned. NB: In Arab plural means at least 3, as Arab is among the languages which have a special form - dual or dualis - when talking about two. But the word here is plural and refers to the 7 heavens Muhammad believed in). Even if the statement is repeated 2 times in the same verse like in this one, there still are no 7 material heavens (see 2/22c). Any god had known, but Muhammad believed in the contemporary Greek and Persian astronomy – Muslims NEVER mention that 7 heavens was the astronomy of the area at the time of Muhammad, and neither does Islam. Everybody is free to wonder why.

627 4/131l: "- - - Allah is - - - worthy all praise". Read 1/1a and see if you agree.

628 4/132a: "- - - unto Allah belong all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". See 4/131a above.

629 4/132b: "- - - unto Allah belong all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which claims this belongs to Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

630 4/132c: “- - - heavens - - -“. See 2/22c and 4/131h above.

631 4/132d: "- - - and enough is Allah to carry through all affairs". Only if he exists and only if he in addition is a god of some power, neither of which is in any way proved.

632 4/133a: “If it were His (Allah’s*) Will, He could destroy you, O mankind, and create another race; for He hath power this to do”. Well, neither he nor Islam has been able to finish off mankind yet - though Islam and Muslims have done enormous destruction through the times. If Muslims will be able to finish off mankind in the future, it hardly will be because of Allah’s wish, but because of fanatics being more “Muslim” than Allah.

633 4/133b: “If it were His (Allah’s*) Will - - -". This is one of very many places where the Quran tells about what Allah could do if he would - - - it just happen that he never will. Similar to what you often hear from children and immature persons wanting to impress others. An impolite word for this is boasting. Also see 14/19d below.

634 4/133c: "- - - create another race - - -". You several places in the Quran meet the claim that Allah created or can create life, but there nowhere is proved anything (there 1 or 2 places are referred tales that he did, but nowhere firsthand witnesses), whereas if the old books - included the Quran - tell the truth on this point, Yahweh both created life (f.x. the bird from clay according to the Quran (though that is likely to be from an old legend)) and resurrected many times (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke, 7/15, Matt.27/52, Acts 9/40, Act 20/40, and Jesus himself). An interesting fact.

635 4/133d: "- - - for Allah hath power this to do". He in case never clearly has proved that power - not once in 1400 years.

636 4/134e: "- - - in Allah's (gift) is the reward (both) of this life and of the Hereafter - - -". Often claimed, never proved - the only thing which is really proved in the Quran, is that so much is wrong in the book, that no god has been involved in making it, and thus that something is seriously wrong with the book and with the religion - and not to mention with Muhammad.

637 4/134f: "- - - for Allah is He that heareth and seeth (all things)". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

638 4/135a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". = Muslims.

639 4/135b: "Stand out firmly for justice - - -". This had been a good point, if it was not for the fact that the Quran's "justice" and the moral code it rests on, both often are sick rules. Compare some points in them to "do towards others like you want others do against you" and be horrified. And ethics we hardly ever even mention in connection to the Quran, as you may be have noticed.

640 4/135c: "- - - justice - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code and its partly as unjust and immoral sharia laws. F.x. one of the best deeds is to wage raids and wars and suppress - and worse - others.

641 4/135d: "- - - a witness to Allah - - -". But why does a presumed or at least claimed omniscient and predestining god need witnesses? This even more so as even in this same verse it is stated that Allah knows everything one does!? See 4/135f below.

642 4/135e: "- - - Allah can best protect - - -". If he if he is a god, if he sent down the Quran, and if Muhammad told the truth and only the truth about this when reciting(?) it.

643 4/135f: "- - - decline to do justice - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. F.x. one of the best deeds is to wage raids and wars and suppress - and worse - others.

644 4/135g: "- - - verily - - -". See 272b above.

645 4/135h: "- - - Allah is well acquainted with all that ye do." This cannot be written by a god; in one end of the verse he needs witnesses, and in the other end he knows everything. When you know everything you do not need witnesses - at least not unless you think people will disbelieve you. Also see 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

646 4/136a: "- - - ye who believe - - -". _ Muslims.

647 4/136b: “Believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -”. A strengthened version of Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his platform of power - his god.

648 4/136c: “- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -”. There is nowhere proved that Muhammad was the messenger of a god. Not even that he really had any connection to a god. All the errors and worse even proves his teaching was not from a god - and all the blood and injustice and immoral prove that it in no case was from a good god. No omniscient god uses a messenger telling so much wrong like Muhammad.

649 4/136d: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/6a below.

650 4/136e: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

651 4/136f: “- - - and the scripture which He (Allah*) hath sent to His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - - ”. It is very obvious to anybody with some knowledge and the ability to read and think, that there are many mistakes in the Quran. It is a question if it is advisable to believe in a book where you know there are many mistakes - and may be many more you do not see. The fact that there are many mistaken facts - and dubious statements + contradictions + numbers of invalid “signs” and “proofs” + cases of unclear language, also make one doubt the not proved claim that the book is sent down by an omniscient god and a copy of a book revered in Heaven. It simply is impossible that it can be true. It is heresy and slander and an insult to blame a book of a quality like the Quran on a god.

652 4/136g: “- - - and the scripture which He (Allah*) hath sent to His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - - ”. A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

653 4/136h: “- - - and the scripture which He (Allah*) hath sent to His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - - ”. One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

654 4/136i: "- - - the scripture which He (Allah*) sent to those before (him Muhammad*))". = The Bible. But the Bible's/NT's fundamental ideas, moral code, ethics, etc. are too different from the Quran's - it is not possible it is from the same god, not unless the god is strongly schizophrenic. (The standard Muslim "explanation" is that the Bible is falsified, but both science and Islam have thoroughly proved this is not true by being unable to find a single proved case of falsification among the literally tens of thousands of relevant old scriptures.)

*655 4/136j: “Any who denieth Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray”. Hardly. When you know how full of mistakes, contradictions and wrong logic the book on which all Islam rests on is, it takes some more proof to decide that it is the non-Muslims that are “far, far astray”. As everything in Islam rests on the Quran and on the if possible even less reliable Hadiths, the chances are that Muslims are the ones who are most astray. This even more so as all the mistakes, etc. proves that no god was involved in the Quran, and that nothing - absolutely nothing - ever was proved about the existence of Allah or about Muhammad's connection to a god. In all other aspects of life blind belief is the easiest way to be cheated - and it is normal for false prophets (there have been many through the times) to rely on fast talk, bluffs and demands for blind belief.

*656 4/136k: “Any who denieth Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray”. Strongly contradicted by the Bible. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

657 4/136l: "- - - His (Allah's*) Books - - -". It is heresy and slander and an insult against a god to claim he has made a book so hopelessly full of mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, unclear language, etc. like the Quran.

658 4/136m: "- - - His (Allah's*) Books - - -". The plural here indicates that Allah also is behind the Jewish scriptures and NT, a claim which only can - can - be correct if the god is strongly mentally ill, as the fundamental differences compared to the Quran are too deep, especially if you compare to NT and its New Covenant (f.x. Luke 22/20).

659 4/136n: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". There is nowhere any proof for that Muhammad was the representative of a god. He was frequently asked for proofs, but was unable to deliver anything but fast-talk to explain it away - the mark of a deceiver? Also see 63/5a below.

660 4/136o: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". There in reality is known only one claimed messenger for Allah: Muhammad. All the other claimed ones just are not proved - and highly unlikely - claims.

661 4/137a: "Those who believe - - -". = Muslims - only Muslims have belief according to the Quran.

662 4/137b: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

663 4/137c: "- - - Allah will not forgive - - -". Only 2 can forgive: The victim and a god. Thus Allah cannot forgive unless he is a god - and of course not unless he exists.

664 4/137d: "- - - Allah will not - - - guide - - -". Allah cannot guide unless he exists.

665 4/137c: "- - - guide - - -". The Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is not much of a guide-book - and as Muhammad preached the same, he is not much of a guide. Too much and even more is wrong in the book.

666 4/137e: "- - - the Way". The road to Allah and to Islam's Paradise.

667 4/138: "- - - a grievous Penalty - - -". See 3/77b above.

668 4/139a: “Yea, to those who take for friends Unbelievers rather than Believers (you will not get honor from Allah*)” You are permitted to have non-Muslims as friends - in the real world it is impossible to prohibit it - but not close friends. Beware of possibility of social extrication and of punishment from Allah if you "sin" against this.

669 4/139b: "- - - all honor is with Allah." May be correct - but only if Allah exists and is a god - and only if he in addition is reasonably correctly described in the Quran. And NB: Only if there is no other god.

670 4/140a: “Already has He (Allah*) sent you word in the Book (the Quran*).” Wrong. A book with so many mistakes and so much invalid logic is neither made nor sent down by a god – omniscient or not.

671 4/140b: "- - - when ye hear the Signs of Allah held in defiance and ridicule, ye are not to sit with them - - -". Abrogated by being made much harsher by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threat, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 28 abrogations).

672 4/140c: "- - - Signs of Allah - - -". Wrong. See 2/39b above.

673 4/140d: "For Allah will collect the Hypocrites and all those who defy Faith - in Hell". Often claimed, never proved. It is not even proved that Allah exists or that he has the power for doing this.

674 4/140e: "For Allah will collect the Hypocrites and all those who defy Faith - in Hell". As far as the ones who believe in the Bible this is contradicted by the Bible. The same goes for the ones who believe in the Quran - the ones living according to the harsh parts of the Quran's partly immoral moral code, etc. hardly will have a chance to be accepted by a god behind something like NT (if that god exists, the chances for which at least exists). But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

675 4/140f: "- - - those who defy Faith - - -". One of Muhammad's many - to Muslims - strongly negative names for non-Muslims.

676 4/140g: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

677 4/140h: "- - - in Hell - - -". See 3/77b above.

**678 4/141a: "- - - they (contemporaries of Muhammad*) say: 'Were we not with you (Muslims*)?" A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

679 4/141b: “And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers”. Go to war – in the long run you are sure to win. The development seemed to justify this verse for Muslims for 110 years - they lost battles, but hardly ever a war, at least not as they stormed westwards. Not until they lost the war in France against Carl Martell (battle of Tours in 732 AD). That made an impression - at least for some - and for a time made some doubt the infallibility of the Quran. The same effect - and stronger - one got over the losses against the west during the 1800s and early 1900. Allah - why did he not let Muslims win?

But the verse is meant as pep talk. And an efficient pep talk it really is. Most active Muslims expect to win total power on Earth sooner or later in accordance with Allah’s/Muhammad’s word.

Will it be like living in Saudi Arabia, Algeria, North Pakistan, Libya, Ethiopia, or Iran? Or Afghanistan?

680 4/141c: "And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers". Wrong. This has happened many, many times.

681 4/141d: "- - - unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many names for non-Muslims - intended to sound negative.

682 4/141e: "- - - believers - - -". Muslims.

####683 4/142a: “The hypocrites – they think they are overreaching Allah, but he will overreach them (literal meaning: 'He (Allah*) is their deceiver'*) - - -.” This is one of Islam’s alibis for Al-Taqiyya and Kitman: When Allah could cheat, then of course his followers can do the same.

Just for the record: Al-Taqiyya and Kitman can be used at least in the cases mentioned below (for broken oaths there are given no real limitations if the broken oath will give a better result. By implication this also goes for ordinary promises, as an oath is something stronger than a normal promise. For cheating/deceit/betrayal there may - may - be the limit that it is to be used in connection to war - but many things are called part of a war especially by extremists.)

To save your or others' health or life.

To get out of a tight spot or a dangerous problem.

To make peace in a family.

When it will give a better result than honesty or honoring one’s oath.

To cheat women (should be remembered by girls with Muslim boyfriends wanting sex - or wanting a marriage to get work permit or residence permit in a rich country.)

To deceive opponents/enemies.

To betray enemies.

To secure one’s money (very clear from Hadiths).

To defend Islam. (Advice if necessary to succeed.)

To promote Islam. (Advice if necessary to succeed.)

But al-Taqiyya is a double-edged sword: In the short run you may cheat and deceive some ones – actually also in the long run if the opposite part does not know about this side of Muslims and of Islam, or if he/she is naïve. But in the long run one discovers that Muslims can lie without sinning, and thus that it is impossible to rely 100% on a Muslim’s word in serious cases - he may be using an al-Taqiyya, a Kitman or even be relying on Muhammad's words about deceiving or about breaking oaths if this gives a better result.

Also see 4/142b just below.

Rules and permission like this for the use of dishonesty only exists in Islam - "the Religion of the Truth". No other of the big religions accepts and partly relies on dishonesty.

####684 4/142b: (A4/157 – in 2008 edition A158): “The hypocrites – they think they are overreaching Allah, but He will overreach them (non-Muslims*) - - -“. Literal meaning: “He is their deceiver”. But f.x. Rezi has: “He (Allah*) will requite them for their deception.” There is a clear distinction here: In the first case Allah deceives the non-Muslims so that may be the plans crumble before they give any Muslims problems. In the other case he avenges what they did. 2 different meanings. And these variants also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word there has more than one meaning. Clear language in the Quran?

We also add that this sentence: “He (Allah*) is their deceiver” is one of the moral alibis Islam uses for its doctrines of “al-Taqiyya” (the lawful lie) and “Kitman” (the lawful half-truth) – a kind of permitted dishonesty included in Islam, but in no other of the major religions. Al-Taqiyya and Kitman and also broken oaths can be used without sinning in a number of cases – f.x. to save your life, to get you out of serious problems, to save your money, to cheat women – and it shall be used if necessary to promote or defend the religion. (It only is guesswork how many proselytes who have been cheated by al-Taqiyya and/or Kitman when wondering if Islam is a true and good religion or not. Or how many non-Muslims who have been cheated to believe that the Quran is not the basis for a teaching of suppression, inhumanities and blood, but a peaceful and benevolent book promoting peace. Not to mention how many girls who have been deceived into marriage, when the Muslim boy just wanted a residence or work permit - or simply into sex.) Also see 4/142a just above.

We finally point to the fact that the literal meaning - "He (Allah*) is their deceiver" - tells gigabytes about the Quran, Muhammad and Islam. It also is legion miles away from the NT - one of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

685 4/143a: "Whom Allah leaves straying - - -". Jesus in NT: "Search for the lost sheep." Different religions, different lines of prophets (in addition to that Muhammad did not have the gift of prophesying - he in reality was no prophet, but just "borrowed" that imposing and impressive title).

686 4/143b: "Whom Allah leaves straying - never wilt thou (Muslims/Muhammad*) find for him the Way". Wrong if there exists another god, f.x. Yahweh. Then he may find if not "the way", then a way - and may be a better one if the old books tell the truth.

687 4/144a: "- - - ye who believe". = Muslims.

***688 4/144b: “Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers - - -". A clear order.

###689 4/144c: “Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?” This is really a strong one: To make good friends with non-Muslims is a clear proof that you are not a good Muslim - this even for Allah, not to mention for all the Muslim society. This verse may give a strong social pressure NOT to associate with non-Muslims.

690 4/145: "The hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire (Hell*) - - -". See 3/77b above.

691 4/146a: "- - - the believers". = The Muslims - only Muslims are believers according to the Quran.

692 4/146b: "And soon will Allah grant the believers a reward of immense value". Often claimed, never proved.

693 4/146c: "And soon will Allah grant the believers a reward of immense value". Not possible unless Allah really exists and is a major god.

694 4/146d: "- - - a reward of immense value". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

695 4/147a: "Nay, it is Allah that recogniseth (all good), and knoweth all things". See 2/233h above and 35/38b below.

696 4/147b: "- - - (all good) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. F.x. one of the best deeds is to wage raids and wars and suppress - and worse - others.

###697 4/148a: "What can Allah gain by your punishment, if ye are grateful and ye believe?" Yes, that is one of the big mystery if it is true like the Quran claims many places, that Allah predestines everything, included everything every human say and do, and all the same he predestine that many will have to live a life sending them to Hell.

<>698 4/148b: (A160 – in English 2008 edition A161): “Allah loveth not that evil should be noised abroad in public speech - - -.” What does this mean? As it is said in a context where the book has been talking about sinners who repent and become Muslims and getting absolution (4/146-147), f.x. Rezi says this concerns slander about former, but now repented and forgiven sins. Others say it means to talk about all things evil. (Do they also mean even if what said is true?) Unclear text.

 

699 4/148c: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. F.x. one of the best deeds is to wage raids and wars and suppress - and worse - others.

700 4/148d: "- - - injustice - - -". See 4/148c just above.

701 4/148e: "- - - Allah is He Who heareth and knoweth all things". See 2/233h above.

702 4/149a: "- - - a good deed - - -". See 4/148c above.

703 4/149b: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. F.x. one of the best deeds is to wage raids and wars and suppress - and worse - others.

704 4/149c: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

705 4/149d: "- - - Allah doth blot out (sins) - - -". This only is possible if he exists and is a real god.

706 4/149e: "- - - Allah - - - hath power (in the judgment of values)". If Allah is behind the moral and hardly existing ethical codes in the Quran, the book proves this claim wrong.

707 4/150a: "Those who deny Allah and His Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

708 4/150b: (A4/161 – in English 2008 edition A4/162): “Those who deny Allah and His Messengers, and (those who) wish to separate Allah from His Messengers - - -.” Or does it mean: “We believe in some and we deny the others” – we believe in Allah but not in his apostles (Zamakhshari)? Or: “- - - we believe in some of the apostles, but not in others - - -“ (Tabari)? Unclear language.

709 4/150c: "- - - Allah and His Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". This is a variety of Muhammad's main mantra to glue himself to the god - at the same time his platform of power. In this case he also claim to belong to the (Jewish) line of messengers/prophets, which is wrong because both his messages and his teaching differ too much from the prophets in that line.

710 4/150d: "- - - His (Allah's*) Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

711 4/150e: "- - - we (non-Muslims*) believe in some but reject others". This may refer to Jews and Christian who accepted what Muhammad correctly quoted from the Bible, but refused what he quoted from fairy tales, legends, and apocryphal stories claiming it was from the Bible. (Muhammad did not know the Bible well, and his stories are a mixture of real quotes and made up tales he seemed to believe in.)

712 4/150+151: "- - - (those who) wish to separate Allah from His Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - - They are in truth (equally) unbelievers - - -". A stronger version of the mantra - see 4/150b just above.

713 4/151a: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

714 4/151b: "- - - unbelievers - - -". Non-Muslims.

715 4/151c: "- - - a humiliating punishment". See 3/77b above.

716 4/152a: "- - - Allah and His Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". A version of Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his platform of power - his god.

717 4/152b: "- - - Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

718 4/152c: "- - - make no distinction between any of the Messengers". Now, Muslims tell that "messenger" is something more distinguished than "prophet", even though messenger only means an errand-boy, whereas prophet is a distinguished title which demands special gifts and abilities. A prophet in reality is something quite a lot more than a messenger-boy, but when Muslims try to tell the opposite, the reason may be that they react to the vague feeling that Muhammad in reality does not merit the title "prophet" (which he in reality does not, as he did not have the gift of prophesying), but all the same want him to have a glorious title. May be there were similar reasons for why Muhammad often used the title "messenger" instead of "prophet" in the Quran.

But that aside: Muslims at least distinguish 4 "prophets" above all the others: 1. Muhammad, 2. Abraham, 3. Moses + 4.Jesus. (1. Muhammad in reality was not a real prophet as mentioned. 2. Abraham in the Bible behaved - and is mostly reckoned to have been - a patriarch, more than a prophet, though there one or two places (f.x. 1.Mos. 20/7) in the Bible is said he was a prophet. 3. Moses also is not mainly a prophet in the Bible, but more clearly was one. 4. On the other hand Jesus no doubt was a prophet, but is played down in the Quran for the obvious reason that if not, he could easily outshine Muhammad, because both the Bible and the Quran make it clear Jesus was tightly connected to something supernatural: His birth, his life, his miracles, his foretelling and in the Bible his death, resurrection and disappearance alive to Heaven, in the Quran his being taken up to Heaven (alive) by the god. The special case Jesus, and Muhammad's strong wish to be the greatest, may be the reason why the Quran some places stresses that no prophet is different from the others - and the danger that he should outshine Muhammad, highly likely is the reason why Jesus is played so much down in the Quran and the Hadiths (f.x. ending in 2. Heaven vs. Muhammad in seventh and close to the god).

719 4/152d: "- - - make no distinction between any of the Messengers". In spite of 4/152c just above, this may be meant to single out Jews and Christians, who did not believe in Muhammad, and thus according to the Quran made distinctions between the claimed messengers. Unclear point. Also see 4/152e just below.

720 4/152e: "- - - make no distinction between any of the Messengers". Finally (see 4/152c+d above) it may be meant to single out Christians who make a distinction concerning Jesus. But in any case what the verse is talking about, is the Muslims, who in spite of 4/152c here is claimed to make no distinctions between the different messengers/prophets.

721 4/152f: "- - - make no distinction between any of the Messengers". Contradicted by the Bible which recons Jesus to be special (and ironically also by the Quran itself, which recon Muhammad to be special). But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

722 4/152g: "- - - Allah (is*) Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

723 4/153a: “The people of the Book - - -". Normally Jews, Christians and Sabeans, but in this case the local Jews.

724 4/153b: “The people of the Book - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

725 4/153c: (A4/164 – in 2008 English edition 4/165): “The people of the Book ask thee (Muhammad*) to cause a book to descend to them from heaven - - -” – as a proof for his prophet-hood. Alternatively: “- - - that thou (Muhammad*) causes a revelation to be sent down to them (the Jews*) from heaven” (M. Asad) The result would be the same – a proof (but Muhammad never was able to prove even the famous comma - - - which did not even exist in Arab at that time) – but there would be quite a difference in the means used. Very indistinct language – two very different meanings of the sentence. And these variants like all the others also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word there has more than one meaning.

But a pertinent question: There is a difference between "sending down a book" like M. Azad here says, and "Show us Allah in public" like A. Yusuf Ali translate it, isn't it?

726 4/153d: "- - - they (the Jews*) said (to Moses*): 'Show us Allah (Yahweh*) in public'". A strong contradiction to the Bible - and something there was no reason for falsifying: The Jews did not ask Moses to show them the god. It was Yahweh who for some reason wanted them to see him. (1. Mos. 19/3-24).

727 4/153e: "- - - they (the people of Moses*) said: "Show us Allah in public". One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

728 4/153f: "- - - they (the people of Moses*) said: "Show us Allah in public". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

729 4/153g: “Yet they (the Jews of Moses*) worshipped the (gold*) calf - - - even so We (Allah *) forgave them - - -.” That he should do so, is contradicted by - or contradicting:

4/48: “Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him - - -.”

4/116: “ Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him - - -.” - and there are more ones.

(2 contradictions).

730 4/153h: “Yet they (the Jews of Moses*) worshipped the (gold*) calf - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

731 4/153i: “Yet they (the Jews of Moses*) worshipped the (gold*) calf. One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

732 4/153j: "- - - even so We (Allah*) forgave them (the people of Moses*) - - -". The problem of Yahweh contra Allah aside: According to the Bible the god forgave them, but for a price (2. Mos. 32/27-27 and 32/35).

733 4/154a: "And for their (the Jews') Covenant We (the god*) raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai) - - -". The god - in the Quran claimed to be Allah - held the mountain above them (there is an old legend saying so, from which Muhammad got this idea), but our Muslim sources refrain from this way of understanding the words - too unbelievable, without really giving any explanation.

734 4/154b: "And for their (the Jews') Covenant We (the god*) raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai) - - -". This is not from the Bible, but from a legend/fairy tale.

735 4/155a: "- - - signs of Allah - - -". There are no signs specific for Allah in all the Quran or anywhere else. There hardly is one single one proving a god in the Quran (with the possible exceptions of the samples "borrowed" from the Bible), and if there is, any priest in any religion can claim it as easily for his god(s), as long as Islam does not prove it really was Allah who was behind it (there may be exceptions for the stories borrowed from the Bible, but they in case prove Yahweh). Loose words and loose claims are very cheap, but proves nothing.

736 4/155b: "- - - slew the Messengers - - -". This is frequently repeated in the Quran and is a serious accusation against the Jews. But read the OT and see how many - or few - in reality were killed.

737 4/155c: "- - - Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy - - -." Compare this to "the lost coin" (Luke 15/8-10),"the lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14), "the lost son" (Luke 15/11-31), and "the 11. hour" (Matt. 20/8-13)in NT: Two very different gods.

738 4/156a: "- - - they (the Jews*) rejected Faith (Islam*) - - -". For the very good reason that they saw something was very wrong in Muhammad’s teaching.

739 4/156b: "- - - Faith - - -". Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

*740 4/156c: “- - - they uttered against Mary a grave false charge (that Jesus was crucified and dead*)”. There were so many witnesses, included many who knew Jesus well (f.x. Matt.27/54, Mark 15/40, John 19/25), and included so many who hated him and definitely had made revolt if he was not executed – the Jewish clergy was powerful - that this charge was definitely not false. If Islam says something else, they will have to provide good proofs, not only bring forth lofty statements taken out of thin air 600 years later. Because that is all the Quran has got to offer: A few lofty statements backed by nothing - no proofs and not even an indicium indicating that all those witnesses - and the rulers and the hateful Jewish clergy - were wrong. Words are very cheap - - - and the only fact Islam can produce is that neither Muhammad nor Islam can accept that Jesus died and was resurrected - in that case he clearly was a greater prophet and/or had closer connections to the god than Muhammad - or were slightly divine - and that is taboo for Muslims. It simply is unacceptable for them.

741 4/157a: "They said (in boast), 'We killed Christ Jesus'". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d below.

742 4/157b: “We killed Christ Jesus - - -”. Wrong name. The word Christ did not exist as a name for Jesus until years later, and then it came from Asia Minor, (the Turks had not arrived there at that time), and then as a title, (see 3/45d). Any god had known this. (Christ in Greek = Messiah in Hebrew (= the anointed one). Because of this some translations of the Bible use Christ instead of Messiah in the NT. But the title Christ – not a name originally, but a title – in reality was not used for Jesus until years after his death.)

743 4/157c: "We killed Christ Jesus - - -". Wrong. This they did not say, simply because the reason why they killed him, was that they refused to believe he was the Messiah (Messiah in Hebrew = Christ is Greek and on top of that "Christ" was not used for Jesus yet). As the Hebrew form of the name Jesus was Joshua, they in case may have said something like "We killed Jesus ben Joseph" or "We killed Joshua ben Joseph" or something like that, but not "We killed Christ/Messiah - - -". - this even more so as the Greek form of the title was not used until a couple of decades later. Any god had known, Muhammad obviously not.

744 4/157d: "- - - Christ Jesus - - -". A double historical anomaly: For one thing the name - or really title - Christ connected to Jesus did not exist at that time. For another: People in earlier times reading copies of the claimed "Mother Book" like the Quran claims - copies thus similar to the Quran if the claimed "Mother Book" was not changed now and then, which the Quran claims it was not - would not understand references to the name Jesus. Also see 4/13d above.

745 4/157e: "- - - the son of Mary - - -". See 5/110a below.

746 4/157f: "We killed Christ Jesus - - - the Messenger of Allah - - -". Wrong. For one thing not even his worst enemies claimed Jesus was a prophet of Allah (or al-Lah) - the pagan god al-Lah "lived" in the not too distant Arabia, and not one soul in Jerusalem thought about al-Lah there and then. But neither did they call him a prophet or messenger of Yahweh - the reason why they killed him was just that it was claimed, and many believed, he was a false prophet claiming to be a prophet for Yahweh, directly opposing of what the Quran here tells they said.

*747 4/157g: “- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear for them - - -”. See 4/156c above. In addition to what is said in 4/156c: If no one else made sure that it was no impostor and that the correct killing really took place, the angry and spiteful Jewish clergy and scholars would see to that. This claim is made up by someone that could not accept that Muhammad was not the greatest prophet (even though Muhammad in reality was not really a prophet – he did not have the gift of being able to make prophesies), and who did not know the political and religious situation in Israel at that time. If Islam wants to say something else, they will have a lot of explanation and proving to do - this even more so as the Quran always demands proofs for what non-Muslims say about their religion, but Islam NEVER itself offers any real proofs for Islam or Allah or for Muhammad's connection to a god. In spite of all the “signs” it boasts of, not one single of those “signs” - with the possible exception of some taken from the Bible - proves any god at all, and definitely not one single one proves anything about Allah or the teachings of Muhammad. Words are very cheap, and there is not one single of those “signs” which cannot as well and as easy be used by priests or believers or "prophets" of all other religions: Manito did this, Thor did that, Kali made something, Osiris something else, Baal created the Earth, and al-Uzza is great. Islam always only claims that Allah did this and this and that this is a “sign” or a “proof” for Allah. But they NEVER prove that it really was Allah who did this and this. Because of that each and every such “sign” and “proof” are intuitively and logically and even judicially invalid as an indication or a proof – and for the same reason any priest in any religion can say exactly the same valueless words about his god(s). The claims are totally invalid as indications or indicia, not to mention as proofs. There is not one single valid proof for Allah or for the teachings of Muhammad anywhere - - - or for the undocumented claim that Jesus was not crucified and died. Similar claims f.x. in 4/156c as mentioned (above).

No matter – it is reckoned as a fact that Jesus really was a historical person . He was heard and seen by so many after his death and resurrection, that it is possible also this part of the story may be true – that he really existed after his execution. (He also is mentioned by the old writers Josephus Flavius, Tacitus, Suetonius, and Plinius the younger - just mentioned, but mentioned.)

But he was never heard or seen after his final farewell to his disciples.

And actually: Whether he died and was resurrected like told in the Bible, or he was miraculously saved and taken up to Heaven alive like claimed in the Quran, it very clearly indicates a much closer connection to the god than what Muhammad had. This even more so if the Quran is a completely or partly made up book and Muhammad a cheat.

##748 4/157h: (YA 663):"- - - nor crucified him - - -." We quote from the book "The Meaning of the Holy Quran" one of the "heavy" ones in Islam - comment 663: "The Gospel of St. Barnabas supported the theory of substitution (another man than Jesus was crucified*) on the Cross". This is one of Islam's pet claims for explanation of the claim that Jesus was not crucified, this in spite of that nothing neither in the Quran, nor in Hadiths indicates anything like this. But we must admit we reacted when we saw the so called "Gospel of Barnabas" used as a documentation for this claim in a book told by Islam to be of high quality - "The Gospel of Barnabas" is a well known apocryphal - made up - scripture. Now many of these made up scriptures were made by fringe semi-Christian sects in the old times. But this one most likely is not even one of them. It is likely it is written by Islam - most likely one of the many falsifications which were made in Spain around 800 - 900 AD during its Muslim period, to prove pet Muslim theories or to cheat people. But it also is a possibility that it was made in Baghdad at the court of the caliph - remember that Muslims are not only permitted to lie (al-Taqiyya, Kitman, etc.) when defending or forwarding Islam, but are told to lie "if necessary" if that gives a better result. That it is a falsification is so well known, that there is no chance Yusuf Ali did not know this. The use of this well known falsification, then tells quantities about how reliable even presumed high quality Islamic religious literature sometimes is - or not is. It also tells mountains about lack of true facts and arguments - or total lack of such (no sane person uses arguments he knows are faked, if he has true arguments). And not least: It tells something about even top Muslim scholars. Honestly we had preferred not to meet things like this - there are more than enough facts which document that something is wrong, so we did not need this al-Taqiyya. It makes the Islamic religion so dirty and "small" - we had preferred honest mistakes. And the sad thing is: It is not the only time we have met this kind of debate from Muslims.

To repeat the final point: The use of known falsifications prove that Islam has no honest arguments and no real proofs for their claim - if they had, they had not been forced to use known falsifications as a last resort as "proofs".

749 4/157i: “- - - of a surety they killed him (Jesus*) not - - -”. If Islam is not able to produce really hard proofs for this statement, it is very obviously wrong. See 4/156c and 4/157f-g-h for further explanations.

750 4/157j: "- - - those who differ therein (believe that Jesus was crucified*) are full of doubts, with no certain knowledge, but only conjecture to follow - - -". Good propaganda if the listeners were naive enough or eager enough to believe what they wanted to hear - but wrong information (no Christian believer doubt this point).

751 4/157k: "- - - for a surety they (the Jews*) killed him (Jesus*) not - - -". This is one of the strong claims in the Quran (if Jesus was killed and resurrected he clearly is something much more special than Muhammad), but like all his other central claims it only is a claim. Muhammad never was able to prove any - any - of his central claims. They just are words from an ambitious man with a doubtful moral. At least it is wrong that they for a surety did not kill Jesus.

752 4/157l: "- - - surety - - -". See 2/2b above.

753 4/157m: The verse 4/157 is completely contradicted by the Bible. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

754 4/158a: “Nay, Allah raised him (Jesus*) up to Himself (in Heaven*) - - -.” But Jesus is reckoned by Islam and the Quran to be a false god to the Christians, and consequently this is contradicted by:

21/98: “- - - and the (false) gods that ye worship besides Allah, are (but) fuel for Hell!” 4/158 says Jesus was no fuel for Hell.

755 4/158b: (YA664): “Nay, Allah raised him (Jesus*) up unto Himself - - -“. There is difference among Muslims what this exactly means: Was Jesus raised up to heaven bodily and never died? Or did he die later than the crucifixion Islam denies and spared the indignities the Jews intended for him? Muslims will give you different answers, because the text is not clear - but it is clear that the god somehow was involved even according to the Quran. (But none we have ever met has given a clear answer to where Jesus disappeared if he lived on on Earth – a person like Jesus would have left traces no matter where he fled – if he fled, which he absolutely did not do according to the Bible).

What is for sure is for one thing that a person like Jesus could not disappear anywhere - he was too special a personality. And for another: If he was taken up to Heaven alive - which is the most often met explanation - that is just a good proof for the involvement of something supernatural - a god - as resurrection. And thus a clear indication for that Jesus was something much more than the self proclaimed, never proved messenger and prophet Muhammad.

756 4/158c: “Nay, Allah raised him (Jesus*) up to Himself (in Heaven*) - - -.” Contradicted by the Bible, which tells that this only happened after Jesus' death and resurrection. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

757 4/158d: "- - - Allah is Exalted in Power". He in case never clearly has proved it.

758 4/158e: "- - - Allah is - - - Wise - - -". Not if the Quran represents his wisdom.

759 4/159a: (YA665): “And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him (the claimed Muslim prophet Jesus*) before his death - - -.” Wrong. If some of the People of the Book believe, they believe in Yahweh and if they are Christian also in the Christian Jesus, not in Allah. It is not the same god unless something is very wrong with the god. Islam will have to prove so in case. Also: Does “his death” refer to Jesus (as he did not die on the cross according to Islam, but perhaps will die and be resurrected in connection with the Day of Doom, according to Muslims scholars) or to the individual “Person of the Book”? Who knows? – the text is too unclear.

760 4/159b: (YA665): “And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him (the claimed Muslim prophet Jesus*) before his death - - -.” This seems to refer to a claim that in the moment of death the dying person discovers that Islam is the right religion. As normal for Islam the claim is never proved. This is not from the Bible. Believe it if you want.

761 4/159c: "- - - the People of the Book - - -". = Jews and Christians mainly, but also Sabeans - see 2/62f above.

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762 4/159d: "- - - the People of the Book - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

763 4/159e: "- - - on the Day of Judgment he (Jesus*) will be a witness against them (sinners*) - - -". Why does an omniscient god need witnesses? Especially if he predestines everything?

764 4/160a: "For the iniquity of the Jews We (Allah*) made unlawful for them certain (food) - - - which had been lawful for them - in that they hindered many from Allah's Way - - -". How come? The laws here referred to, are the Laws of Moses, which the Jews got ca. 1235 - 1230 BC, shortly after the exodus from Egypt. Before that they have been slaves in Egypt - no power to hinder many from any religion. And before that they were too few to do so - the group which Jacob took to Egypt counted 70 persons, his daughters-in-law not included, and they did not go procelyting. This accusation simply needs a lot of strong proofs to be believed, because before the Jews received the mentioned law, they simply did not have the power to hinder anyone from believing if someone wanted. Something simply is wrong. Another thing: There is no reference to such a reason in the "Books of Moses" - the only perhaps reliable source about this. As the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is not from any god, from where did Muhammad get this claim or information?

This "information" simply is not from the Bible, and there is no basis in the Bible for that it can be correct.

765 4/160b: "- - - they (the Jews*) hindered many from Allah's Way - - -". Two never documented claims: They hindered people from finding their god, and this god was Allah. It is highly likely that both claims are wrong, as it is contradicted by the only existing source, the Bible. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

766 4/160c: (A4/174 – in 2008 edition A/175): “- - - in that they (the Jews*) hindered many from Allah’s way - - -.” “The Message of the Quran:”- - - for their (the Jews’*) having so often turned away from the path of Allah - - -.” But the Arab verb “sadda” and the corresponding noun “sadd” both may be transitive or intransitive. If you guess that they are meant transitive, you get the meaning written above. But if you guess they are intransitive, the meaning becomes: “- - - for their having (so) often (themselves*) turned away from the path of Allah - - -.” Allah(?) does not exactly use a “clear language, easy to understand” in the Quran. One extra thought here: This reason cannot be valid - they had not turned away from their god many times at the time they got the Laws of Moses, at least this is not mentioned in any reasonably reliable source. The same goes for the claim that they had hindered people to find their god.

767 4/161a: "(A reason for forbidden food in the Laws of Moses, is among others:*) That they (Jews') took usury - - -". At this time the Jews had been slaves in Egypt for a long time - some hundreds of years. Few slaves have money or valuables to lend against usury. Also there is no hint about such a reason in the Bible.

768 4/161b: "- - - they (the Jews*) took usury - - -". A never documented claim - also one with no basis in the Bible. Also see 4/161a just above.

769 4/161c: "(he Jews*) devoured men's substance wrongfully - - -". Another never documented claim with no basis in the only source, the Bible.

770 4/161d: "- - - those - - - who reject Faith - - -". = Non-Muslims, in this case Jews. One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

771 4/161e: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

772 4/161f: "- - - grievous punishment". See 3/77b. above.

773 4/162a: Grammatical mistake: mukiimiin (feminine plural) should be mukiimuun (masculine plural - see 7/160 below).

774 4/162b: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 26/83a below.

775 4/162c: "- - - the believers - - -". = the Muslims.

776 4/162d: "- - - what (the Quran*) hat been revealed - - -". Was it really revealed? And as it is not from any god with all those mistakes etc.: In case from whom or what?

777 4/162e: "- - - what (the Quran*) hat been revealed to thee (Muhammad*) - - -". The stories Muhammad told were from no god - too many mistakes, contradictions, etc.

778 4/162f: "- - - what was revealed before thee (Muhammad*) - - -". = The Bible.

779 4/162g: "- - - those (Jews*) who establish regular prayer and practice regular charity and believe in Allah and the Last Day: to them shall We (the god*) soon give a great reward". Also Jews may come to Paradise - - - if not this verse from 626 AD is abrogated (made invalid) by later verses. Though you will meet Muslims saying this is about believing Jews from before they learnt about the Quran (Allah often does not punish sins the sinner did not know was a sin), even if it is written in present tense.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

780 4/162h: "- - - those who establish regular prayers - - -". Muslims.

781 4/162i: "- - - regular prayers - - -". 5 prayers a day: One of the pillars for Allah and Islam, of no interest for Yahweh in the Bible. One of the so essential and deep differences between the two books that it alone prove that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.

782 4/162j: "- - - regular charity - - -". One of the pluses for Islam, is the value it places on charity. The effect is somewhat weakened, though, by the fact that the main thing is not to help, but to gain merit in Heaven, and by the additional fact that you gain as much merit from helping your nearest family, as from helping strangers - then why help strangers (though it is done)?

783 4/162k: "- - - the Last Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

784 4/162l: "- - - to them (Muslims*) shall We (Allah*) soon give a great reward". Only possible if Allah exists and is a god.

785 4/162m: "- - - a great reward". Muhammad's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

786 4/163a: "We (Allah*) have sent thee (Muhammad*) inspiration - - -". Muhammad claimed he got many of the verses and surahs for the Quran by means of inspiration - a most convenient way, as it was impossible for others to check - - - and easy to "edit" if he should wish so. But: The word "inspiration" is not used anywhere in the Bible in such connections. Actually Yahweh tells (4. Mos. 12/7-8) that to prophets he speaks through visions, in dreams or by means of direct speech. Inspiration - Muhammad's main claim - is not even mentioned.

787 4/163b: "We (Allah*) have sent thee (Muhammad*) inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him - - -". As Muhammad claimed he got much of the Quran by inspiration, it was good psychology to claim also earlier prophets got messages from the god the same way - it "documented" that Muhammad was a prophet like the older ones. This in spite of that the alternative "inspiration" is never mentioned in the Bible.

788 4/163c: "- - - Noah and the Messengers after him - - -". Muhammad claimed there to all times and all places had been messengers/prophets from Allah teaching Islam - included the Biblical prophets and other Biblical persons which all are claimed to have been good Muslims. Hadiths mention the number 124ooo through the times. Neither science nor Islam has been able to find a single documented trace of Islam older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his mission. Also neither science nor Islam has ever found a trace of relevant messengers/prophets. (Just to mention it: As both science and Islam have proved beyond any reasonable and unreasonable doubt that the Bible is not falsified - neither has found one single documented falsification among the some 44ooo relevant scriptures and fragments - it is clear that the Biblical prophets are irrelevant here, as they believed in Yahweh, the old originally Jewish god who in spite of strong, but as normal for Muslims never documented claims, is not identical to Allah, as the teachings and the fundamental elements of the religions are too different.)

789 4/163d: "- - - Noah - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

790 4/163e: "- - - We (Allah*) sent it (messages by inspiration*) to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the (12 Jewish*) Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and to Salomon - - -". As Muhammad claimed he received his verses from Allah by inspiration, it was essential to "prove" that this was a normal way for prophets to receive information from the god. And NB: He used these claimed Muslim prophets as proofs for that "inspiration" was a normal way of communication. The word "inspiration" is not used anywhere in the Bible in such connections. Also it is nowhere in the Bible mentioned that Ishmael had a close enough connection to Yahweh to be a prophet.

791 4/163f: "- - - Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the (12 Jewish*) Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon - - - and David - - -". 11 different historical anomalies - see 4/13d above.

792 4/163g: “- - - to David We (Allah*) gave the Psalms”. Wrong: According to science they are some centuries younger than King David, at least most of them. (And besides – Allah hardly was involved. If there was a god, it was Yahweh).

793 4/164a: "- - - and to Moses Allah spoke direct - - -". Omitting the fact that the Quran wrongly mixes Yahweh and Allah, Yahweh also spoke directly to others - f.x. Samuel (1. Sam. 3/4-14) and Jesus. (Muhammad knew very little about the Jewish prophets, but any god had known.)

794 4/164b: "- - - and to Moses Allah spoke direct - - -". The Bible contradicts this and says it was Yahweh who spoke to Moses.

795 4/164c: "- - - Moses - - -". A historical anomaly - see 4/13d above.

796 4/165a: "- - - Allah is Exalted in Power". He in case never clearly has proved it.

797 4/165b: "- - - Allah is - - - Wise." Not if the Quran represents his wisdom.

798 4/166a: "But Allah beareth witness that what He hath sent (the Quran*) onto thee (Muhammad)- - -". No god has ever sent a book with that many mistakes, contradictions, etc.

799 4/166b: "(The Quran*) He (Allah*) hath sent from His (own) knowledge - - -". The Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is from no god's knowledge.

800 4/166c: "- - - knowledge - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it normally only means knowledge about the Quran and Islam.

801 4/166d: "- - - the angels bear witness - - -". Why does an omniscient, predestining god need witnesses?

802 4/166e: "- - - enough is Allah for a witness". Only if he exists and in addition is reliable in spite of the Quran's and Islam's points of view concerning al-Taqiyya (lawful lies), Kitman (lawful half-truths), deception ("war is deceit" - and everything is war), broken words/oaths, etc.

803 4/167a: “Those who reject Faith - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative - for Muslims - names for non-Muslims.

804 4/167b: “Those who reject Faith and keep off (men) from the way of Allah - - -". Non-Muslims are bad people.

805 4/167c: “Those who reject Faith - - - have verily strayed far, far away”. Only if Allah really exists and if the Quran has told the full truth and only the truth. Also see 4/136.

806 4/167d: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

807 4/167e: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

808 4/167f: "- - - strayed - - -". Who has strayed if the Quran is a made up book? - and at least it is not from a god with all its mistakes, etc.

809 4/167g: "- - - the Path". = The road to Allah and his Paradise.

811 4/168b: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

812 4/168c: "- - - do wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. F.x. one of the best deeds is to wage raids and wars and rob and suppress - and worse - other people.

813 4/168d: "- - - Allah will not forgive - - -". Allah simply cannot forgive unless he exists and in addition is a god, neither of which is proved. Muhammad was not able to prove anything at all concerning central points in his new religion. Claims based on nothing is a hallmark of cheats, swindlers and deceivers - was Muhammad a such one?

814 4/168e: "- - - guide - - -". See 7/192a and 16/107 below.

815 4/168-169: "- - - Allah will not - - - guide them (non-Muslims*) to any way - Except the way to Hell - - -". Compare this to f.x. "search for the lost sheep" in NT. Definitely not the same god.

816 4/169a: "- - - the way to Hell - - -". See 3/77b above.

817 4/169b: "- - - to dwell therein (Hell*) forever". But there are verses in the Quran which may indicate that Hell is not quite forever - at least not for Muslims who all the same ended in Hell. See 6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74d, 51/13c, and 78/23 below. (One verse - 11/108c - may even indicate that also Paradise may once come to an end).

818 4/169c: "And this to Allah is easy". Similar is often claimed in the Quran, but Allah/Muhammad was unable to give any proof at all for Allah's power - yes, not even for his existence.

819 4/170a: “The Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

820 4/170b: “The Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d below.

821 4/170c: “The Messenger (Muhammad*) hath come - - - from Allah - - -”. There is no place proved that Muhammad is a messenger from any god - Allah or someone else - and all the mistakes in his book make such a connection impossible.

*822 4/170d: “The Messenger (= Muhammad*) hath come to you in truth from Allah: - - -”. With so many mistaken facts in Mohammad’s tales (the Quran), it is impossible he really got the surahs and verses from a god, at least not from an omniscient god. Also see 13/1g and 40/75 below.

823 4/170e: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b above and 13/1g below.

824 4/170f: "- - - believe in him (Muhammad*): it is best for you." This only is true if the Quran is true, and it contains so much which is wrong that it maximum can be partly true.

825 4/170g: "- - - believe in him (Muhammad*): it is best for you". Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which means it is best to believe in Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

826 4/170h: "- - - Faith - - -". = Islam.

827 4/170i: "- - - to Allah belongs all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". Often claimed, never proved.

828 4/170j: "- - - to Allah belongs all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which means this belongs to Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

829 4/170k: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

830 4/170l: "- - - Allah is All-knowing, All-wise". Not if he made the Quran - too much is wrong in that book.

831 4/171a: "- - - People of the Book - - -". = Jews and Christians mainly, but also the Sabeans - see 2/62f above.

832 4/171a: "- - - People of the Book - - -". A historical anomaly

833 4/171b: "- - - nor say of Allah aught but the truth - - -". Another hint to the claim that Jews and Christians had falsified the Bible (impossible to be true for MANY reasons, but it was Muhammad's only possible explanation for the differences between his teaching and the real Bible".

834 4/171c: "- - - nor say of Allah aught but the truth - - -". But there is a good chance that that was just what the Jews did - said the truth about Allah, revealing that something was seriously wrong with Muhammad's new religion.

835 4/171d: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/2b above and 13/1g and 40/75 below.

836 4/171e: “- - - Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was (no more than) a Messenger- - -.” Well, he frequently called Yahweh (the Jewish and Christian god) his father - the word is used for Yahweh in the relationship between Yahweh and Jesus at least 204 times in the Bible, and the word "son" at least 87 times, many of those times by Jesus himself - and Jesus was reliable also according to the Quran (and remember: Neither science nor Islam has been able to find one single falsification in the Bible - lots of claims from Islam, but not one documented case (just guess how loudly Islam had screamed about it, if they had ever found one!)).

837 4/171f: "- - - Christ Jesus - - -". "Christ" was not part of his name - it was a title given him after his death - it is the Greek version of the Hebrew title Messiah, which means the anointed one. The word Messiah was sporadically mentioned during his lifetime, but not Christ, which only emerged some years after his death and resurrection. Unknown to Muhammad, but known to any god - then who made the Quran?

838 4/171g: "- - - the son of Mary - - -". See 5/110a below.

839 4/171h: “Christ Jesus was - - - a Messenger of Allah - - -”. Islam will have to prove this, as he definitely was no messenger of Allah but for Yahweh - for explanations about this see 3/51a above.

840 4/171i: “Christ Jesus was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah - - -”. Muhammad could not afford that Jesus was anything more than a normal prophet - in that case he himself impossible could be the greatest.

841 4/171j: "Christ Jesus - - -". A historical anomaly. See 4/13d above.

#842 4/171k: "- - - a Spirit proceeding from Him (Allah*) - - -". One of the few references in the Quran to the Holy Spirit.

#843 4/171l: "- - - a Spirit proceeding from Him (Allah*) - - -". A contradiction to the Bible - in the Bible the Holy Spirit belongs to Yahweh.

844 4/171m: "- - - so believe in Allah and His Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". The most sure way in life to be cheated, is to believe blindly in things you are told - especially when the tales not proved and are from persons of low moral standard, but with ambitions.

845 4/171n: "- - - so believe in Allah and His Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". A strengthened version of Muhammad's standard mantra for gluing himself to his god and his platform of power.

846 4/171o: "- - - Messengers (included Muhammad*) - - -". See 63/5a below.

847 4/171p: "- - - say not 'Trinity' - - -". Here Muhammad may have a point, as the trinity is not from the Bible. (But Jesus did say that he and his father (Yahweh) were one - may be literally, may be figuratively meant. And there was the Holy Spirit.)

848 4/171q: "- - - Allah is One God - - -" = there is no god but Allah. See 2/255a above and 6/106b and 25/18a below.

849 4/171r: "- - - glory be to Him (Allah*) - - -". Please read 1/1a above and see if he deserves any glory - if he exists.

850 4/171s: “- - - (far Exalted is He (Allah*)) above having a son”. If the Quran here talks only about Allah, that may be correct. But if it talks about an Allah identical to Yahweh, we have to remind Muslims of the fact that Jesus many times and in front of many witnesses called Yahweh his father – the word “father” as a statement of the relationship between Jesus and Yahweh is used at least 204 times in the NT according to our latest leafing through it, and the word “son” at least 87 times, many of those times by Jesus himself. And even the Quran agrees to that Jesus was reliable. And we remind you that in spite of what Islam and the Quran claim without any documentation about falsifications of the Bible, science clearly has documented that those never proved claims are not correct. Islam has given even stronger proofs for this by being unable to find one single proved falsification in all the literally tens of thousands of relevant old manuscripts or fragments.

Besides; what do humans know about what a god wishes? - f.x. of some company?

851 4/171t: "To Him (Allah*) belong all things in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth". Often claimed, never proved - - - and a claim any believer in any religion can make on behalf of his god(s) as long as no proof is required - words are that cheap.

852 4/171u: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

853 4/171v: "And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs." One more claim which never was proved.

854 4/172a: “Christ disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah.” In 3/51a is implicated in the explanation why this is wrong. The only possible exception is if Yahweh and Allah really is the same god. But only Islam states that, and the teachings of Yahweh (especially in NT and the New Covenant – f.x. Luke 22/20) are so different at essential points from the teachings of Allah, that they cannot be the same god unless he is mentally ill (schizophrenic). Islam will in case have to prove what they say, not only to claim it.

855 4/172b: “Christ disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah.” Strongly contradicted by the Bible, which says Jesus' god was Yahweh. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

856 4/172c: "- - - those who disdain His (Allah's*) worship and are arrogant - - -". = Non-Muslims.

857 4/172d: "- - - those who disdaineth His (Allah's*) worship - - -". One of Muhammad's to Muslims negative names of non-Muslims.

858 4/172e: "- - - He (Allah*) will gather them (non-Muslims*) all together unto Himself to (answer (and to punishment*))". See 3/77b above.

859 4/173a: "- - - those who believe - - -". = Muslims.

860 4/173b: "- - - deeds of righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. F.x. one of the best deeds is to wage raids and wars and rob and rape and suppress - and worse - other people.

861 4/173c: "- - - He (Allah*) will give (the good Muslims*) their (due) rewards - - -". If he exists. If he is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth about this.

862 4/173d: "- - - (due) reward - - -". The Quran's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f below.

863 4/173e: "- - - those who are disdainful and are arrogant - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

864 4/173f: "- - - a grievous penalty - - -". See 3/77b above.

865 4/173g: "- - - nor will they find , beside Allah, any to protect or help them". Well, if they are Jews or Christians may be there is Yahweh.

866 4/174a: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

867 4/174b: “- - - there hath come to you (mankind*) a convincing proof (the Quran*) - - -“. With that many mistakes, contradictions, etc., and so much wrong logic, etc., etc. the Quran is not very convincing, and its “proofs”/”signs” are no more convincing - see 2/39b above.

868 4/174c: "- - - convincing - - -". See 2/2b above.

869 4/174d: "- - - proof - - -". See 2/2b above.

870 4/174e: “- - - there hath come to you (mankind*) a convincing proof (the Quran*) from your Lord (Allah*) - - -“. No book with that much wrong is from a god.

871 4/174f: "- - - a light (the Quran*) (that is) manifest." What is absolutely manifest is that a book with so much wrong and with such a detestable pre-medieval moral - or immoral - code is no light for anyone. NB: Some Muslims claim the "light" is Muhammad. To call a man with a morality like the real historical Muhammad a "light" for people, is a bit far from realism.

873 4/175a: "- - - those who believe in Allah - - -". Muslims.

874 4/175b: "- - - soon He (Allah*) will admit them (good Muslims*) to (Paradise*) - - -". If he existed. If he is a god. If he is behind the texts in the Quran. And if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth.

875 4/175c: "- - - Mercy and Grace from Himself (Allah*) - - -". See 1/1a above and see if you agree.

876 4/175d: "- - - guide them (Muslims*) to Himself (Allah*) - - -". A guide like the Quran can guide no-one to something good - too much is wrong in the book.

877 4/175e: "- - - a straight Way". The claimed road to the Quran's and Islam's claimed paradise - see 10/9f below.

878 4/176a: This verse is an example of how the Quran often jumps from one subject to something entirely different. The mullahs and imams who boast that the Quran is top literature, seem to know a lot about the Quran, but nothing about literature - or they are using an al-Taqiyya.

879 4/176b: This verse is about inheritance, and thus one of the verses behind the sharia laws.

880 4/176c: "- - - (his (Allah's*) law) - - -". But is it Allah's law when the Quran is not from any god, included the possible Allah? - no god is involved in a book of that quality.

881 4/176d: “And Allah hath the knowledge of all things”. Obviously not in this case, too. F.x.: Given the right combination of inheritors, their shares add up to 125% or even 150% of the inheritance (this has given lawyers and lawmakers much work – and at least the lawyers much money - through the times.)

Surah 4: Sub-total 881 + 2553 = 3434 comments.

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##### 8/69a-d: "- - - lawful and good - - -". If these words and the context they are taken from ("- - - enjoy what (loot, slaves, and women* + destruction and murder) ye took in war (normally of aggression*), lawful and good - - -") were all you knew about the Quran and Islam, this alone would be enough to remove them from the civilized world, and transfer it to the dark, harsh, and inhuman Medieval ages or earlier. This even more so as this is not "abrogated" (made invalid) by today's Islam, but on the contrary are preached many places all over even today in some Islamic fora and groups and countries. (And even practiced during armed conflicts - Bangladesh, East Timor, East Africa, and Indonesia a "short" time ago. Low intensity active in f.x. Indonesian New Guinea and parts of Africa even now (2010).)

Just remember that most Muslims are ok. Only a minority is militant - 1-2% according to Muslims (but 2% of 1.2 billion = 24 million). Then according to international science some 30% (= some 360 million) are willing to help the militants actively or with money, or at least "understand" them. The rest - the majority - are ok. (But our problem is to know who is who.)

But what is absolutely sure, is that apologists telling that "there are verses in the Quran which can be misused by terrorists", are talking nonsense. According to the Quran it is very clear it is the peaceful Muslims who are not good Muslims, and the activists who are laudable and obeying Muhammad and Allah.

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10/32: "- - - apart from the Truth, what (remains) but error?"

(A6/92 - English 2008 edition A6/93): "- - - it is in the nature of man to regard the beliefs which have been implanted in him(!) from his childhood, and which he now shares with his social environment, as the only true and possible one - - -". This goes for Muslims more than for any other, because the imprinting is much stronger.

"Religious "knowledge" nearly always in reality only is belief - often strong belief, but only belief". (In Islam exactly nothing of any consequence is proved.)

A world dominated by Islam is quite possible - Islam is expanding. Will it end up like North Pakistan or Afghanistan or like Saudi Arabia without oil - or somewhere in between? - and this because of a religion which itself proves that something is seriously wrong with its teaching, and also that there is no god behind its "holy" book (no omniscient god makes mistakes), and thus not behind the religion.

A nice future for our grandchildren?


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