1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 29 -- Al-'Ankabut (The Spider)

Revelation: Late Mecca or early Medina; 621 - 624 AD?

(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)


 

The quotes and comments

001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 29/1: "Alif Lam Mim". Some Arab letters starts a number of the surahs. They are called abbreviated letters - "muqatt'at". In most surahs they definitely have no meaning, in others they may or may not have one, but even in the cases they may have a meaning, that meaning has no connection to the contents of the actual surah. Nobody knows why they are there. Clear language?

*003 29/2a: “Do men think - - - they will not be tested?” But why is it necessary to test anyone if Allah is omniscient and knows everything before? – yes, in spite of that he even decides everything before? (in spite of the claim that man has (limited?) personal freedom to decide – though even Islam is unable to explain how it possible to combine the statement that Allah decides everything before, with the statement that man has free will - full or partly - (not strange, as it is a version of the time travel paradox, and that paradox is proved unsolvable)) – if all this, then why are tests necessary to find an answer Allah already knows?

004 29/2b: "We believe". = We are Muslims - only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

005 29/3a: "We (Allah*) did test those before them - - -". But why is it necessary to test anyone if Allah is omniscient and knows everything before according to the Quran? – he even decides everything before (in spite of the claim that man has (limited?) personal freedom to decide – though even Islam is unable to explain how it possible to combine the statement that Allah decides everything before, with the statement that man has free will (not strange, as it is a version of the time travel paradox, and that paradox is proved unsolvable)) – if all this, then why are tests necessary to find an answer Allah already knows?

006 29/3b: "- - - Allah will certainly know - - -". As Allah is claimed to be for one thing omniscient, and for another thing predestines everything before it is said or happens, he of course knows everything. (All the same he had/has to test even his followers - f.x by sending them on raids for riches and slaves/victims for extortion for Muhammad.)

007 29/3c: "- - - Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false". See 2/233h above.

008 29/3d: "- - - Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false". In this case "true" and "false" stands for "good Muslims" contra "hypocrites and non-Muslims".

009 29/3e: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.

010 29/3f: "- - - good - - - bad - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it normally is meant in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

011 29/4a: "- - - those who practice evil - - -". In the Quran expressions like this sometimes refer to real evildoers - though not to jihadists (warriors in "holy wars" - jihads - which is the name of nearly every conflict where Muslims are at least one part) doing even horrible things - and sometimes simply to non-Muslims. The expression has psychological negative effect on relationship to non-Muslims - even stronger than "wrongdoers" which mostly simply means non-Muslims. Often it simply is one of the many negative names Muhammad used for "non-Muslim".

012 29/4b: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

013 29/4c: "Evil is their (evildoers*) judgment". When used for real evildoers - included jihadists (whom Islam never include) - this may be correct. When used simply for non-Muslims, it is a very loaded accusation - one of Muhammad's many distaste-producing names for non-Muslims.

014 29/5a: "- - - those whose hopes are in the meeting with Allah - - -". Muslims.

015 29/5b: "- - - strive - - -". Often in the Quran this refers to armed actions, but this early (621 - 624 AD) there is a reasonable chance it only means to toil or similar. (Islam did not become a war religion until after the arrival in Medina in 622 AD).

016 29/5c: ”- - - for the Term (appointed) by Allah is surely coming - - -.” Predestination - Allah decides.

017 29/5d: (YA3427): “- - - for the Term (appointed) by Allah is surely coming - - -“. Does this refer to the time appointed for death and thus the end of this life, or to the time left of this life and thus the possibility to prepare for the next life? Nobody knows - as mentioned other places the language in the Quran often is unclear (in spite of Islam's strong claims about the opposite).

018 29/5e: "- - - surely - - -". See 2/2b above.

019 29/5f: "- - - He (Allah*) hears and knows (all things)". See 2/233h above.

020 29/6a: “And if any strive for (with might and main) - - -". This is an expression which in the Quran normally means fight in raid or war (raids mainly were for stealing and for taking captives for extortion or slaves).

021 29/6b: “And if any strive for (with might and main), they do so for their own souls - - -“. If you f.x. go to war or take part in raids, you gain merit with Allah.

022 29/6c: "- - - Allah is free of all needs from all creations". Similar is claimed several places in the Quran, but like always concerning central claims in the book, never proved. It may be true if Allah exists and is a god. It of course is true if Allah does not exist. It may be not true if Allah exists and belongs to the dark forces.

023 29/7a: "Those who believe - - -". Muslims - this kind of names only are used for Muslims in the Quran.

024 29/7b: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when words like this are used in the Quran, it is with references to the partly immoral moral code in the Quran.

025 29/7c: "- - - blot out all evil - - -". = Forgive. Forgiving from the god is an essential part also in the Quran, but forgiving is less central and your deeds more central in the Quran, than in f.x. NT. This distance is enlarged by the effect of the Quran's often big gap between its (im)moral code and "do unto others like you want others do unto you"

026 29/7d: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

027 29/7e: "- - - We (Allah*) shall reward them (good Muslims in the possible next life*) according to their best deeds (and the best deed for Muslims, is war or raids for Allah and Muhammad and his successors*)". This only is true if Allah exists and is a major god, and if the Quran in addition has told the full truth and only the truth on relevant points.

028 29/8a: "We (Allah*) have enjoined on man kindness to parents - - -". Clearly contradicted by 6/151: "Come, I (Muhammad*) will rehearse what Allah (really) prohibited you from: - - - (among other things*) - - - be good to your parents". On the other hand 6/151 is one of the points in the Quran Muslim scholars agree on must be wrong. The Quran all other places says you shall be good to your parents (unless they denies you to become a Muslim).

029 29/8b: "- - - join with Me (Allah*) (other gods*) - - -". This only can be the case if Allah exists - you cannot join something to nothing.

030 29/8c: "- - - join with Me (Allah*) (other gods*) - - -". See 25/18a above.

031 29/8d: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 26/83a above.

032 29/8e: "- - - knowledge - - -". Comment (A29/4): "According to Razi, this phrase may also allude to concepts not evolved through personal knowledge but, rather, acquired through a blind, uncritical acceptance of other people's views (taqlid)". How many Muslims have become Muslims because they have studies diverse religions and found that in spite of all the errors in the Quran, this must be the one and true religion, and how many simply have accepted what their surroundings have claimed to be the truth?

033 29/8f: "- - - anything of which ye have no knowledge - - -". In this case = false gods. (Another question is if Allah in reality belongs to them, as there never was a proof for his existence.)

034 29/8g: "Ye (humans*) have (all) to return to Me - - -". See the comment to 29/7e above.

035 29/8h: "- - - (the truth) - - -". See 2/2b above.

036 29/9a: "Those who believe - - -". Muslims - this kind of names only are used for Muslims in the Quran.

037 29/9b: "- - - righteous deeds - - -". See 29/7b above.

038 29/9c: "- - - them (good Muslims*) shall We (Allah*) admit to the company of the Righteous". The ones who are going to end up in the Quran's Paradise - see 10/9f above.

039 29/9d: "- - - the Righteous - - -". Good Muslims.

040 29/10a: "There are among men such as say (to Muhammad's followers*), 'We believe - - -'". This could not reliably be written into the Quran long time before, unless predestination is 100%.

041 29/10b: "- - - if help comes (to thee (people*) from thy Lord (Allah*) - - -". There has not been one single proved case of help from Allah in all history or prehistory. Guess if Muslims had told about it if such a case had existed!. There have been lots of claims, but not one proved case.

042 29/10c: "Does not Allah know best all that is in the heart of all Creation?" See 2/233h above.

043 29/11a: "And Allah most certainly knows those who believe, and as certainly those who are Hypocrites". See 2/233h above.

044 29/11b: "- - - most certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.

045 29/11c: "- - - those who believe - - -". In the Quran this and similar expression only refers to Muslims.

046 29/12a: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

047 29/12b: "- - - the Unbelievers say to (the followers of Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

048 29/12c: "- - - the Unbelievers say to (the followers of Muhammad*): 'Follow our path - - -". How could this be reliably written into the claimed "mother Book" long time before it happened, unless predestination is 100%? Left alone the laws of chaos would mean changes in the reality after short time with even only 1% free will for man or less.

049 29/12d: "- - - those who believe - - -". Muslims - only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

050 29712e: "- - - in fact they (non-Muslims*) are liars!" Not good people - shun them.

#051 29/12f: "- - - fact - - -". See 2/2b above - especially when you meet words like "fact" and "truth" and a few others, you should check carefully, as most often it really only are claims, not facts or proved truth.

052 29/13a: "They (non-Muslims*) will bear their own burdens (of sins*), and (other) burdens along with their own, and on the Day of Judgment they will be called to account for their falsehoods". In the Quran sinners on some occasions have to carry also the burden of sins of the one you have sinned against. F.x. if you kill someone "unjustly", the victim loses the chance of being forgiven by Allah later in life, and then he/she is forgiven and you have to take over his/her burden of sins.

If this principle really is valid in a possible next life, it will have serious effect for many a Muslim if Allah is a made up god and/or the Quran has not told only and the full truth in everything. In that case all the millions of killings and murders and assassinations done by Muslims throughout times are "unjust killings" - and the killers only can hope for that there is no next life and no god judging their deeds.

053 29/13b: "- - - falsehood." See 2/2b above.

054 29/14a: "We (Allah*) (once) sent Noah - - -". According to the Bible, the god of Noah was Yahweh. We may add that the story in the Quran about Noah, roughly is similar to the one in the Bible. But many details are different or added. As the Quran with all its errors and weaknesses is from no god, so that he cannot have got those details that way (in spite of strong claims), it is an open question from where Muhammad got them.

055 29/14b: "- - - Noah - - -". A historical anomaly.

056 29/14c: "- - - they (the people of Noah*) (persisted in) sin". How could this be reliably written into the claimed "mother Book" long time before it happened, unless predestination is 100%? Left alone the laws of chaos would mean changes in the reality after short time with even only 1% free will for man or less.

057 29/14d: "- - - Sin - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exists.

058 29/15a: "But We (Allah*) - - -". See 29/14a above.

059 29/15b: "But We (Allah*) saved him (Noah*) and the Companions of the Ark - - -". Well, according to the Quran Noah lost one of his sons. (Not so in the Bible, where all his 3 sons were saved - 1. Mos. 7/13.) But as he was not on board the Ark, formally the text in the Quran is not wrong.

060 29/15c: "- - - him (Noah*) and the Companions of the Ark - - -". A historical anomaly.

061 29/15d: “- - - Sign - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

062 29/16a: Abraham delivered from Nimrod's fire. Taken from the story "Midrash Rabbah", not from the Bible - there is nothing similar in the Bible about Abraham in the Bible, but there is one about Daniel 1000+ years later, which may have inspired this "story"). And another point: Abraham and Nimrod did not live at the same time (if they ever lived). Nimrod was the great grandson of Noah (1. Mos. 10/1-8: Noah - Ham - Cush - Nimrod), and if he is not a fiction, he lived 4ooo - 6ooo BC. Whereas Abraham - if he ever lived - lived some 1800 - 2ooo BC. Muhammad had a strong tendency to mix persons from different times (f.x. Haman and Ramses II/Xerxes - some 800 years wrong. Or Mary and Miriam - some 1200 years wrong.)

063 29/16b: "- - - Abraham - - -" For one thing according to the Bible, his name was Abram - he did not get the name Abraham until he was 99 years old (1. Mos. 17/1-5). In addition here he is a historical anomaly.

064 29/16c: "Serve Allah - - -". Abraham was a good Muslim - some 2500 years before Muhammad. Believe it if you want. But at least it is a clear contradiction to the Bible, which tells that Abraham's god was Yahweh.

065 29/16d: "- - - if ye (some non-Muslims*) understand!". The problem is that if people really have knowledge and understanding, they also understand that many things are wrong in the Quran, and thus that there is no god behind that book - or in this case a similar one, as this is from the time of Noah (a prophet of Islam according to the Quran - with all its errors).

066 29/17a: "The things that ye (Abram/Abraham's people*) worship besides Allah have no power - - -". May be right - but the never answered question: Is Allah any better? Nothing is proved and the Quran is full of mistakes, etc.. The only thing which is sure, is that the Quran is not from a god - too much is wrong in the book. Also see 25/18a above.

067 29/17b: "The things that ye (Abram/Abraham's people*) worship besides Allah have no power - - -". It is not unlikely that Noah's people had more than one god - actually it is quite likely. But in the Bible there is mentioned no kind of religious strife, neither between Abram/Abraham and his people (1. Mos. 11/27-31), nor between Abram/Abraham and his father (1. Mos. 11/27-32 and 12/1-5).

068 29/17c: "- - - besides Allah - - -". According to the Bible his god was Yahweh, not Allah. (But as Allah - or al-Lah before Muhammad renamed him - seems originally to have been an old moon-god, it is not unlikely that Abram's people had a similar moon-god, but perhaps with another name.)

069 29/17d: "- - - seek ye (Noah's people*) sustenance from Allah - - -". It is Allah who gives you all things, according to the Quran. Not dissimilar to 11/7a above.

070 29/17e: "- - - be grateful to Him (Allah*) - - -". Reasonable only if he exists and is a god, a joke if he does not exist, an irony if he exists and belongs to the dark forces.

071 29/17f: "- - - to Him (Allah*) will be your (humans'*) return". Always claimed, never proved. True only if Allah exists and is a major god and is like what the Quran claims - thought-provoking as no god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran (far too many errors, etc.).

072 29/17g: "- - - to Him (Allah*) will be your (humans'*) return". Contradicted by the Bible, which says your return will be to Yahweh, not to Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

073 29/18a: "And if ye (Noah's people*) reject (the Message (Islam*) - - -". Like all the other heroes in the Quran, Abram/Abraham was a good Muslim. Believe it if you want.

074 29/18b: "And if ye (Noah's people*) reject (the Message (Islam*), so did generations before you - - -". As so often in the Quran a parallel to Muhammad's situation at the time when the verses emerged, and a clear message to his followers: This situation is normal for prophets and thus Muhammad is a normal prophet.

But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet is a person who:

Have the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.

Makes prophesies that always or at least mostly come true.

Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for a person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not see the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking (nearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying, that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran”; prophesying is a kind of miracle -seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracle connected to Muhammad also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories). Also see 30/40a and 30/46a, and we also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah according to Hadiths (f. x. Al-Bukhari) states that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden and what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet.

Also relevant here is that the original title of the Jewish prophets was not "prophet" but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F. x. 1. Sam. 9/9, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1.Chr.29/29, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side). Muhammad so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen".

Many liked the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for the name - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.

***And this is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why.

Also see 30/40 and 30/46below.

075 29/18c: “- - - the duty of the messenger is only to preach publicly (and clearly).” Well, as Muhammad grew more powerful, so did his wish for controlling the locals’ and later the Arabs’ lives and religious ideas - - - force and punishment became means to a goal. With the necessary changes in the religion, and contradictions and necessary abrogations compared to the more peaceful 12 years in Mecca. This verse is abrogated – made invalid - by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 28 abrogations).

076 29/18d: "- - - messenger - - -" Also this title is a parallel to Muhammad. But see 63/5a below.

077 29/19a: "See they (people*) not how Allah originates creation - - -". How is it possible to see that, when it nowhere is shown? An interesting claim, really, as Allah nowhere has proved his power neither for creation, nor for recreation, whereas Yahweh has done so according to both the Bible and the Quran - if they tell the truth on these points (1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Mark 5/41, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt. 27/52, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10, the Quran 5/110i). Also see 21/56c+e above.

078 29/19b: "- - - then (Allah*) repeats it (creation i. e. recreation* - - -". See 7/158i and 29/19a above.

079 29/19c: "- - - truly - - -". See 2/2b above.

080 29/19d: "- - - that is easy for Allah". Often claimed, never proved. Claims are cheap.

081 29/20a: "Say (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

082 29/20b: "Travel through the earth and see how Allah did originate creation". ???! It is nowhere shown in all this wide world. 

Actually we have travelled through a good part of the Earth. We have seen a lot of nature and culture - even seen and heard about some things worth a god (and some worth a devil - like war and terrorism). But we have seen or heard no proof of a god - and absolutely no proof of Allah, with the possible exception that such a gruesome and warlike god - in spite of all words about kindness and benevolence - may be the explanation of some horrific actions taking place f. x. in the name of Allah here and there.

Also see 21/56c+e above.

083 29/20c: "- - - Allah originates creation - - -". See 29/19a above.

084 29/20d: "- - - so will Allah produce a later creation - - -". Easy to claim, not even tried to prove. Also see 29/19a above.

085 29/20e: "- - - Allah has power over all things". Often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere.

086 29/20f: "- - - Allah has power over all things". Contradicted by the Bible, which says this power it is Yahweh who has - a book which not at all even mentions the claimed god Allah or his followers or his somewhat special "moral" codes. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

087 29/21a: "He (Allah*) punishes whom He pleases - - -(remember here that according to Hadiths, he f.x. decides who is to end in Hell, 5 months before they are even born)". Contrasting NT where Yahweh punishes only the ones who deserves it - even up to the last moment salwation is possible.

088 29/21b: "- - - He (Allah*) grants Mercy to whom He pleases - - -". Contrasting the NT where Yahweh grants mercy to anyone who deserves it + the ones who does not really deserve it, but who honestly regrets and asks for forgiving.

089 29/21c: "- - - (Allah's*) Mercy - - -". See 1/1a above.

090 29/21d: "- - - towards Him (Allah*) are ye (Muslims*) turned". Perhaps - but according to the Bible, they had done better turning towards Yahweh, and especially so if Allah does not exist (not to mention if he belongs to the dark forces, which too many points for comfort may indicate in the Quran).

#####091 29/22a: “Not on earth nor in heaven will ye be able (fleeing) to frustrate (His Plan) - - -“. Predestination. No-one can change what Allah has destined in his Plan. What then about the effect of prayers? - and what about free will for man? - not to mention: What then about man's moral responsibility for his words and deeds?

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not, many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

092 29/22b: "- - - nor have ye (humans*), besides Allah, any protector or helper". Contradicted by verses in the Quran telling that Muslims are the protectors and helpers of Muslims, and by verses telling that angels are the protectors and helpers of Muslims.

093 29/22c: "- - - nor have ye (humans*), besides Allah, any protector or helper". Perhaps not besides - but what about f.x. Yahweh instead of?

094 29/23a: "Those who reject the Signs of Allah - - -". One of Muhammad's many distaste inducing names for non-Muslims.

095 29/23b: “- - - Sign of Allah - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

096 29/23c: "- - - the Meeting with Him (Allah*) (in the Hereafter) - - -". - at the Day of Doom.

097 29/23d: "- - - the Meeting with Him (Allah*) (in the Hereafter) - - -". Always claimed, never proved. True only if Allah exists and is like what the Quran claims - thought-provoking as no god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran (far too many errors, etc.).

098 29/23e: "- - - it is they (non-Muslims*) who shall despair of My (Allah's*) Mercy - - -". Not unless Allah exists and their own god - f.x. Yahweh - does not exist.

099 29/23f: "- - - My (Allah's*) Mercy - - -". See 1/1a above.

100 29/23g: "- - - it is they who will (suffer) - - -". See 29/23d above.

101 29/23h: "- - - a most grievous Penalty." See 3/77b above.>7P

102 29/24a: "- - - (Abraham's) people - - -". A historical anomaly.

103 29/24b: "- - - (Abraham's) people - - - said: "Slay him (Abraham*) - - -". How could this be reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" in Heaven may be before the Universe was created, unless predestination is 100%?

104 29/24c: "- - - (Abraham) - - -". According to the Bible his name was Abram. Not until he was 99 years and long after he had come to Canaan (now roughly Israel - he was 75 when he left for Israel (1. Mos.12/4)) - Yahweh changed his name to Abraham, all this according to the Bible (1. Mos. 17/1-5).

105 29/24d: "Slay him (Abram/Abraham*) or burn him". Actually there is said nothing in the Bible about Abram/Abraham having troubles in Ur in Chaldea where he came from (1. Mos. 11/29-31). And actually this tale is "borrowed" from the story "Midrash Rabbah", and as for Nimrod's fire - another point here is: Abraham and Nimrod did not live at the same time (if they ever lived). Nimrod was the great grandchild of Noah and lived (?) 2ooo - 4ooo years before Abraham. Muhammad had a strong tendency to mix persons from different times (f.x. Haman and the time of Ramses II/Xerxes - some 800 years wrong. Or Mary and Miriam - some 1200 years wrong.)

106 29/24e: "But Allah saved him (Abram/Abraham*) from the Fire (of Nimrod*)." This is not from the Bible - neither fire nor Nimrod is mentioned there in connection with Abraham.

107 29/24f: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

108 29/24g: "- - - Signs - - -". There nowhere exist any kinds of signs proving Allah. Some of the signs taken from the Bible may be exceptions, but they in case prove Yahweh, who in spite of the many, but never proved claims from Islam, are not the same god as Allah - too fundamental differences in the teachings. And remember: Science has proved that there are no falsifications in the Bible - also these claims from Islam only were based on air and on other loose claims. Also this is one of the cases where this kind of claims in the Quran are extra ironic: A claim from a made up tale is a "Sign" - Quran-speak for "proof" - for Allah!

109 29/24h: "- - - people who believe". Muslims - expressions like this in the Quran only are used for Muslims. 

110 29/25a: "And he (Abraham*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

111 29/25b: "- - - idols besides Allah - - -". See 25/18a.

112 29/25c: "- - - out of mutual love between yourself in this life - - -". Muhammad normally claimed non-Muslims did not believe in him because they wanted the good things in this life. For one thing it was a "better" explanation than to have f.x. to admit that many of them saw there were serious wrongs in his new religion, and besides to make opponents low quality for many naive souls means to make yourself - and your followers - represent a quality superior to that.

113 29/25d: "- - - your (non-Muslims'*) abode will be the Fire - - -". = You will go to Hell in the claimed next life. Also see 3/77b above.

114 29/25e: "- - - and ye (non-Muslims*) shall have none to help". Contradicted by the Bible, which says that Yahweh is a good helper - at least for believers in him. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

115 29/26a: "But Lut (Lot*) had faith in Him (Allah*)- - -" - and followed him. Actually the context indicates that here is referred to Abraham, not to Allah, but for Abraham Muslims would not use capital H*. According to the Bible Lot lost his father, Haran (1. Mos. 11/27-28), and Terah (Azar in the Quran) - Abram/Abraham's and Haran's father and Lot's grandfather - later moved north and simply took his son and grandson along.

116 29/26b: "- - - Lut (Lot*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

117 29/26c: "I (Lot*) will leave home for the sake of my Lord - - -". Differs from the Bible. See 29/26a just above. From where did Muhammad get this information? As it is not from a god (the Quran with all its errors is from no god) and not from the Bible, there only remain apocryphal (made up) stories, legends, fairy tales or fantasy.

118 29/26d: "- - - for He (Allah*) is Exalted in Might - - -". This is about the Lord of Lot. In the Bible this was Yahweh (or El - see 29/27a below) - a god who has proved his might several times if either the Bible or the Quran tells the truth on this point. But here in the Quran it is claimed to be Allah. Allah has never proved any power in any way (the Quran tries to claim he has proved himself, by claiming that Allah is the same god as Yahweh, but this never proved and not provable claim is wrong, as their teachings fundamentally by far are too different. And we here remind you that also Muhammad's pet claim - like normal for central points in the Quran never proved - that the "explanation" was that the Bible is falsified, also is proved wrong by science beyond any reasonable and unreasonable doubt, and even more so by Islam's inability to find even a single falsified relevant old manuscript among the many thousands which exists.

119 29/26e: "- - - for He (Allah is*) - - - Wise". See 29/27a just below - Allah never has proved his wisdom either.

120 29/27a: "And We gave (Abraham,) - - -". According to the Bible it was Yahweh who did this - or El, which was the older name for Yahweh, and the name it is likely Abraham knew. El was the main god in some religions in that area in very old times.

121 29/27b: "- - - (Abraham) - - - Isaac - - - Jacob - - -". 3 historical anomalies.

122 29/27c: "- - - in the Hereafter (of the company) of the Righteous". = He (Abraham*) ended in Heaven, not in Hell.

123 29/27d: "- - - the Righteous - - -". Beware that when words like this are used in the Quran, it is with references to the partly immoral moral code in the Quran - though perhaps reasonably correctly used just here.

124 29/28a: “- - - Lut (Lot*); behold, he said to his people (the people of Sodom and Gomorrah*) - - -.” Wrong. Those people for one thing were not Lot’s “natural” people, as he was a stranger from very far away (Ur in Chaldea in what now is South Iraq, but now living near the Dead Sea), and for another both the Bible and the Quran make it very clear that he also was not a naturalized member of those communities – he was an outsider. (May be the Quran tells they were his people so as to be able to say he was a prophet to his own people, like they falsely claim every prophet was – in spite of Joseph (Egypt), Moses (Sinai 40 years), Abraham (Canaan), Lot (Dead See area), Jonah (Nineveh).

125 29/28b: "- - - Lut (Lot*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

126 29/28c: “Do you (men of Sodom and Gomorrah*) commit lewdness (homosexuality*), such as no people in Creation (ever) committed before you.” Wrong. Homosexuality was nothing new – it even exists among some “higher” animals, sometimes as a sign of dominance – and it is in the DNA of a minor part of humanity (women with this gene has a tendency to get more children than average, therefore the gene has survived). Islam also will have to answer what all the young slave boys for the harems were for (2/3 of the slaves imported to Muslim areas were women and children, included boys, according to Encyclopedia Britannica - to the Americas 2/3 were men for the plantations). If Islam stays on their claim that this was something “no people in humanity (ever) committed before”, they will have to prove it. Any god had known this - then who made the Quran? Similar claim in 7/80.

127 29/29a: (YA3450): “Do ye (the men of Sodom and Gomorrah*) indeed approach men, and cut off the highway - - -.” Does the “- - - cut off the highway - - -“ refer to attacking and raping homosexually the travelers, or does it refer to robberies? Islamic scholars disagree and the Quran does not make it clear - like so often in the Quran.

128 29/29b: "- - - they (the people of Sodom and Gomorrah*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

129 29/29c: "- - - they (the people of Sodom and Gomorrah*) said: 'Bring us the Wrath of Allah - - -". How could this reliably be written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39a, 43/4b+c, 85/21+22) - a timeless book written by Allah before the creation of the world or perhaps existed since eternity, and revered by Allah and by his angels, a book of which the Quran is claimed to be an exact copy - how could this be written into this claimed book eons before it happened, if predestination was/is not 100% (and if there are 100% predestination, in spite of the Quran's never documented claims, free will for man is impossible even for an omniscient and omnipotent god - in the nonmaterial realms of life there are things impossible also for gods. And not less: What is the meaning, purpose and effect of prayers in Islam, if everything is predestined like the Quran states most clearly several times?

130 29/29d: "Bring us (people of Sodom and Gomorrah*) the wrath of Allah if thou tellest the truth". Also in the old times people asked for proofs. Muhammad never was able to bring any neither for his god nor for his own connection to a god (Sodom and Gomorrah is a proof for Yahweh if it is true, not for Allah).

131 29/30a: "He (Lot*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

132 29/30b: "- - - people who do mischief - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

133 29/30c: "- - - do mischief - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. When f.x. Muslims went raiding for wealth and captives and power, it was not mischief, but heroism. And terrorists today are not making mischief - they are heroes - - - for a book not from a god - and a god most likely made up.

134 29/31a: "When Our (Allah's*) Messengers (angels*) came to Abraham - - -". This contradicts verses in the Quran which tell that messengers to humans only were men.

135 29/31b: "When Our (Allah's*) Messengers (angels*) came to Abraham - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells they were from Yahweh - or to be more exact: The three visitors he god were Yahweh himself (1. Mos. 18/1+10+13+17+20+26+30+31+33) and 2 angels (1. Mos. 18/2 and 19/1). Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

136 29/31c: "When Our (Allah's*) Messengers (angels*) came to Abraham with good news (intention of destructing Sodom and Gomorrah*) - - -". But according to the Bible this was not good news to Abraham - he tried to save them (from pity or empathy?) (1. Mos. 18/23-32).

137 29/32a: "He (Abraham*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

138 29/32b: "Lut (Lot*) - - - and his wife". 2 historical anomalies.

139 29/32c: "- - - we (the angels*) will certainly save him (Lot*) and his following - - - except his wife - - -". In the Quran her death was predestined, in the Bible it was caused by a mistake she did.(1. Mos. 19/26).

140 29/33a: "When Our (Allah's*) Messengers (angels*) came to Lut (Lot*) - - -". See 29/31a-c above.

141 29/33b: "- - - Lut (Lot*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

142 29/33c: "- - - except thy (Lot's*) wife - - -". Similar to 29/32c above.

143 29/33d: "- - - thy (Lot's*) wife - - -". A historical anomaly.

144 29/34: "- - - this township - - -" There actually were two according to both the Bible and the Quran. Lot seems to have lived in (the outskirts of ?) Sodom, but there also was Gomorrah.

145 29/35a: “- - - an evident Sign - - -.” There are no evident or clear signs for Allah – or for Muhammad’s connection to a God - in all the Quran or anywhere else. See 2/39a and 2/99 above. Besides if Sodom and Gomorrah are signs for anything, it is for Yahweh, not for Allah. Not to mention: Nobody knows where Sodom and Gomorrah were (if they really were), except that it was in the region of the Dead Sea - not much of an evident sign for the posteriority at least.

146 29/35b: "- - - people who (care to) understand". This kind if indicated flattery you meet many places in the Quran. Muhammad knew and understood people - and how to manipulate them.

147 29/36a: "- - - the Madyan (people) - - -". A historical anomaly.

148 29/36b: "- - - the Madyan (people) - - -" It is likely this is the same area which in the Bible is called Midian, and where Moses later lived for 40 years after his fight from Egypt, according to the Bible. (Also according to the Quran, but there it is not said for how long).

149 29/36c: "- - - Shu'ayb - - -". A historical anomaly - if he ever existed.

150 29/36d: "- - - Shu'ayb - - -". A claimed prophet - a self proclaimed one - claimed working in Madyan. You find him no other places than in the Quran - - - except that a few Muslims claim he was the father-in-law of Moses (There is no rational reason for this claim, and also most serious Muslim scholars disagree to it. Moses lived in Midian once upon a time, and the claimed Shu'ayb was claimed to have lived in Madyan - likely just another name for the same area - once upon a time (but likely centuries before Moses), is the only basis for this claim. But Muslims sometimes do not need more to be sure. There is a good reason for our telling that research in Muslim literature, etc. sometimes is quite a job.

151 29/36e: "Serve Allah". This is pretended to be from the time well before Moses. Science had found no traces from teachings about Allah earlier than 610 AD.

152 29/36f: "Serve Allah". Risky and in vain if he does not exist - not to mention if there somewhere exists a real god Muslims have been prohibited from looking for. Or if Allah belongs to the dark forces.

153 29/36g: "- - - the Last Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

154 29/36h: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

155 29/36i: "- - - mischief". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. This word in the Quran frequently has a very different meaning from in normal languages, not to mention civilized languages.

156 29/37a: "- - - they (the people of Madyan*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

157 29/37b: "- - - they (the people of Madyan*) rejected him (Shu'ayb*) - - -". How could this end up in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened? One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

Also see 3/154a, 6/149a, 7/34a, 14/22b, and not least 27/22-26 above.

158 29/37c: Non-Muslims naturally are punished. See 3/77b above.

159 29/38a: "- - - the 'Ad and the Thamud (people) - - -". Two tribes from old Arab folklore - they may be have existed and maybe not. There may be some traces indicated that they have existed, but what is told about them in the Quran, you only find in the Quran. From where is the information?

160 29/38b: "- - - the 'Ad and the Thamud (people) - - -". 2 historical anomalies - if the tribes ever existed (in this case it is not unlikely, but the Quran's tales about them hardly are correct.)

161 29/39a: "- - - Qarun - - -". See 28/76-82 above. Also: A historical anomaly it he is not fiction.

162 29/39b: "- - - Pharaoh - - -". Pharaoh Ramses II definitely is a historical person, but just in this connection all the same a historical anomaly.

163 29/39c: "- - - Haman - - -". See 28/6c above. Also: A historical anomaly it he is not fiction.

164 29/39d: "- - - Moses - - -". A historical anomaly.

165 29/40a: "- - - some of them (here the Egyptians*) We (Allah*) drowned - - -". This refers to the claimed drowning of the pharaoh - but it is wrong: Pharaoh Ramses II did not drown (and because of that Muslims wants it to have happened earlier under more obscure pharaohs, but science is in little doubt. Also this fits the number of years given in the Bible.)

166 29/40b: Different ways the Quran claims Allah has used for punishing sinners. See 3/77b above.

167 29/40c: "It was not Allah Who injured (or oppressed) them (non-Muslims*): they inquired (and oppressed) their own souls". Wrong if they were forced to do what they did by Allah's predestination - a predestination the Quran several places says is total and according to Allah's unchangeable Plan.

168 29/41: The spider building himself a house. From Arab (mainly oral) literature - this (and some other places) perhaps from the "Saba Moallaquat of Imra 'ul Cays".

169 29/42a: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

170 29/42b: "- - - whatever (false gods*) they call upon besides Him (Allah*) - - -". See 25/18a above.

171 29/42c: "- - - He (Allah*) is Exalted (in power) - - -". Well, in case he has never clearly proved his power.

172 29/42d: "- - - He (Allah*) is - - - Wise". Not if the Quran is representative for his wisdom.

173 29/43: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 26/83a above.

174 29/44a: "Allah created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". See 6/1e, 11/7a and 21/56c above.

175 29/44b: "Allah created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in true (proportions) - - -". F. ex. 7 material heavens, one above the other, and 7 flat Earths (65/12 - according to Hadiths also here one above the other). See 6/1e, 11/7a and 21/56c+e above.

176 29/44c: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

177 29/44d: "- - - true - - -". See 2/2b above.

178 29/44e: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

179 29/44f: “- - - Sign - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

180 29/44g: "- - - those who believe". Muslims.

181 29/45a: "Recite what is sent down of the Book (the Quran*) - - -" At least the Quran is not sent down from a god - too many mistaken facts, other mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc.

182 29/45b: "Recite what is sent down of the Book (the Quran*) - - -". This also includes reciting it and procelyting at home and abroad. It then is relevant to mention that in many Muslim countries it is prohibited for other religions to proselyte - some places with death penalty for it. One law for me, another for you. And no compulsion in religion.

183 29/45c: "- - - sent down the Book (the Quran*) by inspiration - - -". This is a very diffuse way - very open to ideas, convenient inclusions, and so on.

184 29/45d: "- - - by inspiration - - -". This word is never used in the Bible in connection with transferring messages from the god to someone. Yahweh only used direct contact, visions, and dreams (4. Mos. 12/6-7).

185 29/45e: "- - - regular prayers - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 23/9b above.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not, many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

186 29/45f: "- - - Prayer restrains from shameful and unjust deeds - - -". Like f.x. rape a female captive in the name of Allah - or stone a raped woman who cannot bring 4 male witnesses to that it really was rape? Also see 29/45d just below.

187 29/45g: "- - - shameful and unjust deeds - - -". Beware that when words like this are used in the Quran, it is with references to the partly immoral moral code in the Quran itself - raping captive women or girls or stealing/robbing, all in the name of Allah, f. x. is not shameful.

*188 29/45h: “- - - remembrance of Allah is the greatest (thing in life) without doubt.” There is much doubt about this if he has composed the Quran - the mistakes proves he in case is very far from omniscience, the valueless “signs” and “proofs” proves he is not very good at logical thinking, and his use of invalid excuses and his inability to send proofs of his existence, proves he is not omnipotent. And if someone else made the Quran, the doubt is even greater, as then both the Quran and Islam are without any value at all - or with negative value, as much of the religion is rather inhuman (f.x. wars, terrorism, suppression of all non-Muslims, suppression of women and freedom to rape many of them, thoughts about slavery, and enmity towards non-Muslims, and more).

189 29/45i: "- - - without doubt". See 2/2b above.

190 29/45j: "And Allah knows the (deeds) that ye do". The old reminder: Allah knows - do not try cheating him or his representatives. Also see 2/233h above.

191 29/45-46: (A40): “Recite what is sent of the Book by inspiration to thee - - -.” But who is or are “thee” in this case? Muhammad? – or Muslims generally? In the last case the meaning of Arab “ma uhiya ilayka mina ‘l-kitab” may be “- - - whatever of the divine writ has revealed itself to thy understanding”. Islam has to guess what is really meant here – you do the same. Yes, the Quran is a very clear scripture.

192 29/46a: “And dispute ye not with the People of the Book - - -.“ No comments – but read 9/29 and 9/5 once more. This verse is contradicted and often “killed” (abrogated) by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

193 29/46b: “And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation) - - -". With force or weapons? A clear message in reality.

194 29/46c: “- - - the People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". Jews, Christians and Sabeans. Who the last ones were, is somewhat unsure, but most likely the people of Saba/Sabah/Sheba in what now roughly is Yemen. This part of Arabia was conquered from East Africa - a Christian region - around 350 AD and was mainly Christian at the time of Muhammad. There are a couple of other possibilities - a group in Persia (which still exists - some 2ooo members only) and a monotheistic sect in Arabia - but Sheba is the most likely answer.

195 29/46d: "- - - the People of the Book (here the Bible*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

196 29/46e: "- - - inflict wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

197 29/46ea: "- - - revelation (the Quran*) - - -". Is the Quran a revelation? There are 3 alternatives: Revelation (though not from a god as too much is wrong in the book - also hardly from a devil unless the god made all the mistakes a condition to give man a chance to see something was wrong), illness (f. ex. TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy), or cold planning for power, like so many self proclaimed "prophets". Or a combination of 2 or 3 of these

198 29/46eb: "- - - the revelation (the Quran*) which has come down to us (Muslims*) - - -". No god has had anything to do with a book of a quality like the Quran - too much is wrong.

199 29/46ec: "We (Muslims*) believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which has come down to you (Jews/Christians*) - - -". The implication here is that the Bible originally had the same messages as the Quran (but that it has been falsified). For one thing science has proved beyond any even unreasonable doubt (but beyond blindness or wishful thinking is impossible) that there is no falsification in the Bible - and Islam has proved it even stronger by being unable to find one single case of falsification among the many thousands of old papers which exist.

And for another thing the two teachings are so fundamentally different - too different to come from the same god. This claim simply is one of the many loose and never documented claims in the Quran which is wrong. Unless Islam for once proves something. The Quran simply is no confirmation of the Bible - not by many long shots.

####200 29/46f: “- - - our (Muslims*) and your (Jews and Christians*) god is one - - -”. This is not correct unless he is schizophrenic, as too many fundamental aspects are too different between the two teachings. To mention a few points:

Islam:

The New Testament:

Do not kill without a good reason.

Do not kill.

To wage war is a religious duty.

Do not kill.

An eye for an eye.

Turn the other cheek.

You cannot carry another’s burden.

Carry your fellow man’s burden.

Religion shall run the country.

My land is not of this world.

Be killed for Allah and go to Paradise.

Become like a child to go to Paradise.

Paradise = Earth-like luxury plus women

Paradise = Heaven for your soul.

(for women = Earth-luxury and a share of the husband).

(for women = Heaven for your soul.)

Paradise = resurrected body.

Paradise = the soul lives on.

Do not lie except for good reason.

Do not lie.

Do not mourn the unbeliever.

“The lost lamb”.

Break an oath and pay expiation for it.

To break any oat is a severe sin.

Al-Taqiyya – Muslims’ lawful lie.

Do not lie.

Kitman - Muslims' lawful half-truth.

Do not lie.

To rob and steal may be “good and lawful”.

Do not steal.

To rape a female slave is “good and lawful”.

So immoral that it is not even mentioned.

Help others to gain merit in heaven.

Help others because they need it – and gain merit in heaven.

*A similar sentence exists also in Islam (in Hadiths), but it is so well hidden and forgotten and sleeping, that we never have heard it quoted even from Muslims trying to prove what a benevolent religion Islam is.

(For those who do not know: Jesus said that if someone hit you on one cheek, turn the other towards him = answer bad with good. And: Jesus said that a good shepherd would search for a lost lamb = to save a lost soul is very valuable, and there is reason to mourn the not saved ones.)

We know both religions have been misused – though with one serious difference: Christ has been misused in contradiction to his teaching, Islam very often because of and in accordance with the Quran’s often bloody teaching and lack of real moral.

But these are some of the teachings – some of the fundamental points. And it is worth repeating here that science (and even more so Islam) has proved that the Bible is not falsified – a few mistakes, but no falsifications. This in spite of the Quran’s and Islam’s never documented claims of much falsification. Islam will have to show proofs for the claims if they wants to be believed – proofs they have been unable to find in 1400 years. (We also reminding you that the only other alternative is that something is seriously wrong with the Quran and hence with Islam, as no god makes a book full of errors, etc.). Only Islam says it is the same god - and they are wrong, unless the god is mentally ill. Similar claims in 2/139 -3/64 – 42/13.

(For those who do not know: Jesus said that if someone hit you on one cheek, turn the other towards him = do not take revenge, and answer bad with good. And: Jesus said that a shepherd would search for a lost lamb (or sheep) = to save a lost soul is very valuable, and there is every reason to mourn the not saved ones.)

We know both religions have been misused – though with one serious difference: Christ has been misused in contradiction to his teachings, Islam very often in accordance with its teachings, because of the Quran’s often bloody religion and lack of real moral on too many points. The sentences above are some of the teachings – some of the fundaments.

Also see separate chapter - hopefully to be launched in 2012 AD - in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran", Book A under http://www.1000mistakes.com .

Only Islam says it is the same god - and they are wrong, unless the god is mentally ill.

201 29/47a: “- - - We (Allah*) have sent down the Book (the Quran*) - - -“. No god ever sent down a book with that many mistakes, etc. – not to mention revered it in his own “home” as the "Mother Book". (13/39 - 43/4 - 85/21-22.)

202 29/47b: "So the people of the Book (Jews and Christians mainly*) believe therein (in the Quran*)". Simply wrong. A few became Muslims according to Islam, but most not. There were few Christians, but a lot of Jews in the area - who mainly refused to accept Islam. They preferred to flee or even be killed or enslaved instead of accepting Islam. At this time (621-624 AD - and at least after 622AD) Muhammad knew this very well, and at least if this verse is younger than 622 AD, this is one of the places Muhammad knew he was lying when he said things like this. "Some Jews" could be possible to explain, but not "the Jews" or an even somewhat bigger group "the People of the Book".

203 29/47c: "- - - the People of the Book - - -". See 29/46c-d above.

204 29/47d: "- - - none but the Unbelievers reject Our (Allah's*) Signs". Did they refuse the claimed signs because they were unbelievers - or were they unbelievers because the "signs" were without value as real indications or proofs? The use of invalid "proofs" tell something sinister to everyone who discovers the wrongs.

205 29/47e: “- - - Our (Allah's) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

206 29/48a: "And thou (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

207 29/48b: (A29/46): "It is historically established that Muhammad, the "unlettered prophet", could neither read nor write (not correct - science for several reasons believe this is not true, but an alibi Muhammad used against the ones who claimed he made up things himself - his statement was that as he could not read or write, he could not make up a book. Wrong logic, but it worked), and could not, therefore, have derived his extensive knowledge of the contents of earlier revelations from the Bible or other scriptures: which - as the Quran points out - ought to convince any unprejudiced person that this knowledge must have come to him through divine revelation". 

This is helpless kindergarten nonsense. For one thing Muhammad had no extensive knowledge of the Bible or the Jewish scriptures - most of his tales in the Quran were taken not from there, but from apocryphal (made up) tales, legends, fairy tales, etc. told in lazy evenings and other times for pastime in Arabia like in all primitive and not so primitive societies. The sources for his stories in the Quran mostly are known, so there is no doubt about this - except that he afterwards claimed that his fancy stories were the true ones from the Bible, and that the Bible and the other scriptures were falsified, and that was why they did not agree with his "revelations".

But this aside, and even if he in addition could not read: There was no problem for a well off businessman with a rich wife to pay someone a little for reading for him.

"Arguments" like this tell a lot about Islam and about Muslim scholars - not to mention about lack of real arguments. We could tell what we mean about this level of argumentation, but we do not use words like "rubbish", etc.

208 29/48c: "- - - in that case (if Muhammad could read and write*), indeed, would talkers of vanities have doubted (in his tales*)". Many did - and looking at all the mistakes in his stories, they had plenty of reasons for doubt.

209 29/48d: "- - - talkers of vanities - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

210 29/48e: "- - - talkers of vanities - - -". To talk "dirt" about opponents is no new invention - it often works.

211 29/49a: “- - - Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

212 29/49b: "- - - Signs self-evident - - -". Wrong to say the least of it. There is not one single proved sign for Allah or for Muhammad's connection to a god in all the Quran, and also not anywhere else. If a proved or self-evident sign really had existed, Islam had quoted it to every living soul in each preach and each debate and book and article ever performed or published. There also does not exist "signs" anywhere which are self evident proofs of a god, not to mention for Allah. It simply does not exist.(You bet religious people had found it if it really had existed).

Another question: Who use arguments and "proofs" of this quality? The cheat, the swindler, the fast-talker, the deceiver.

213 29/49c: "- - - Signs self-evident - - -". It may be impolite to mention it, but even today Muslims have to resort to arguments of this quality - a proof for that they have very little of real arguments.

214 29/49d: "- - - those endowed with knowledge - - -". See 13/3j above.

215 29/49e: "- - - those endowed with knowledge - - -". Comment YA3479: "'Knowledge' ('ilm) means both power of judgment in discerning the value of truth and acquaintance with previous revelations." As we have mentioned several places, words like knowledge in Islam only means knowledge related to religion and the Quran/Islam. Other knowledge was "foreign knowledge" and unwanted (and more or less came to an end in Muslim area in 1095 AD - a century later in the far vest - with the book "The Incoherence of the Philosophers" by "the greatest Muslim after Muhammad", al-Ghazali.

Besides YA here is wrong: "Knowledge" represents the facts. The rest - the ability to evaluate the knowledge - is "wisdom".

216 29/49f: "- - - none but the unjust reject Our (Allah's*) Signs." Wrong. They also are rejected at least by everyone who see that the claimed "signs" are just loose and never proved claims, and thus without value as indication or proof for Allah or for Muhammad's connection to a god. And they are not "believers", but "knowers".

217 29/49g: "- - - the unjust - - -". One of Muhammad's many (very) negative names for non-Muslims.

218 29/49h: “- - - Our

219 29/50a: "- - - they (opponents of Muhammad*) say - - -". A historical anomaly.

220 29/50b: "- - - they (opponents of Muhammad*) say: 'Why is not - - -'". See 29/27b above.

221 29/50c: "Why are not Signs (proofs*) sent down to him (Muhammad*) from his Lord (Allah*)?" One of the many requests for proofs. Muhammad never was able to prove any of his central claims.

222 29/50d: "- - - Signs - - -". See 2/39b above.

223 29/50e: "The Signs are indeed with Allah - - -". One of Muhammad's ways of explaining the requests for proofs away: It was for Allah to decide showing signs (and Allah did not want, because miracles would not make anyone believe anyhow. Wrong.)

224 29/50f: "The Signs - - -". Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

225 29/50g: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

226 29/50h: "- - - I (Muhammad*) am indeed a clear Warner". This surah is from 621 - 624 AD. It was around or shortly after this time he started to also indeed become an enforcer.

227 29/51a: "And is it not enough for them (non-Muslim opponents of Muhammad*) that We (Allah*) have sent down to thee (Muhammad*) the Book - - -". Of course it was not enough to send down(?) a book which every Jew and every Christian saw was full of mistakes!

228 29/51b: "And is it not enough for them (non-Muslims*) that We (Allah*) have sent down to thee (Muhammad*) the Book - - -". Comment (A29/50): "I.e., 'are the contents of this revelation not enough for them (the skeptics*) to make them grasp its intrinsic truth without help of 'miraculous proofs' of its divine origin?'" This is logical nonsense on the same level as 29/48b above - and even more so when one remembers all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran.

229 29/51c: "- - - We (Allah*) have sent down the Book (the Quran*) - - -". No god has sent down a book with that many mistakes, etc.

230 29/51d: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

231 29/51e: "- - - in it (the Quran*) is mercy - - -". Is it? See 1/1a above.

232 29/51f: "- - - a Reminder - - -". Here it is indicated that the Quran is the correction of the falsified Bible and a reminder of the correct - earlier and not falsified scriptures. The problem is that both science and Islam thoroughly have proved that the Bible is not falsified - some mistakes, but no falsifications (identical to the old scriptures, except for minor deviations normal for hand copied scriptures).

233 29/51g: "- - - those who believe". Muslims.

234 29/52a: "He (Allah*) knows what is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth". See 2/233h above.

235 29/52b: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22.

236 29/52c: "- - - those who believe in vanities - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative - to Muslims - names for non-Muslims.

237 29/52d: "- - - believe in vanities - - -". To slander opponents and their meanings, is an old art.

238 29/53a: "They ask thee (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

239 29/53b: "They ask thee (Muhammad*) to hasten the Punishment- - -". See 29/37b above.

240 29/53c: "They ask thee (Muhammad*) to hasten the Punishment- - -". Opponents repeatedly dared Muhammad to send punishment to them as a proof for his tales. Muhammad never was able to do so - his only replies were fast-talk of different kinds.

241 29/53d: “- - - had it not been for a term (of respite) appointed - - -.” The predestination decides everything.

242 29/53e: “- - - had it not been for a term (of respite) appointed, the Punishment would certainly have come to them - - -.” Are you able to recognize fast-talk?.

243 29/53f: “- - - had it not been for a term (of respite) appointed (by Allah*), the Punishment would certainly have come to them (non-Muslims*) - - -”. Very well - then Muhammad had an explanation why “bad” people lived a good life, and he had to prove nothing - it just was Allah’s unfathomable will which did it, or like in this case; his predestined Plan.

244 29/53g: "- - - the Punishment - - -". Here: Death and then Hell.

245 29/53h: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.

246 29/54a: "They ask thee (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

247 29/54b: "They ask thee (Muhammad*) to hasten the Punishment- - -". See 29/37b above.

248 29/54c: "They ask thee (Muhammad*) to hasten the Punishment- - -". Opponents repeatedly dared Muhammad to send punishment to them as a proof for his tales. Muhammad never was able to do so - his only replies were fast-talk of different kinds.

249 29/54d: “- - - of a surety, Hell will encompass the Rejecters (non-Muslims*) of the Faith (Islam*).” No, this is no surety with all the mistakes in the Quran strongly reducing a reader’s belief in the reality of the religion. Even more: If someone has made up the Quran, and there exists another, real religion, the rejecters of Muhammad and Islam have a chance of finding that religion, but Muslims not.

250 29/54e: "- - - surety - - -". See 2/2b above.

251 29/54f: "- - - Rejecters of Faith - - -". One of Muhammad's many very negative names for non-Muslims.

252 29/54g: "- - - Faith - - -". Islam - only Islam is faith according to the Quran.

253 29/54-55: Punishment. See 3/77b above.

254 29/55a: "- - - the Day that Punishment shall cover - - -". The Day of Doom.

255 29/55b: "Taste ye (sinners*) (the fruits) of your deeds!" In the Quran your good and bad deeds counts heavily for whether you will end in Heaven or Hell - but mind you: Judged according to the Qurans partly immoral moral code.

256 29/56a: "- - - servants who believe - - -". Muslims.

257 29/56b: "Truly - - -". See 2/2b above.

258 29/56c: "- - - My (Allah's*) Earth - - -". One of the Quran's many never proved claims.

259 29/56d: "- - - serve ye (people*) Me (Allah*) - (and Me alone)!" Rather risky as long as all the religion rests just on a book full of errors, contradictions, a few lies, etc. from a man even central Islamic literature admits used lies, cheating, broken oaths, etc. If no god exists, it does not matter. But if there some place exists a real god, but Allah is a mad up one, it is a pity. Not to mention if the other and real god is a good and benevolent one not liking injustice and terror, whereas also Allah exists, but belongs to the dark forces. It will in case not be a good experience.

260 29/57a: "- - - in the end to Us (Allah*) shall we be brought back". If Allah exists. If he is behind the Quran. And if the Quran tells the truth on this point. The sorry fact here, is that no god ever was involved in a book full of mistakes, etc.

261 29/57b: "- - - in the end to Us (Allah*) shall we be brought back". Contradicted by the Bible which says you will be brought back to Yahweh (on the Day of Doom). Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

262 29/58a: "- - - those who believe - - -". Muslims.

263 29/58b: "- - - Work deeds of righteousness - - -". The sum of your good and bad deeds will count a lot on the Day of Doom for the decision about Hell or Heaven for you. Just remember that the Quran is a bit abnormal on what is good and what is bad deeds - compare to "do unto others like you want others do unto you" and see for yourself.

264 29/58c: "- - - righteousness - - -". Beware that when words like this are used in the Quran, it is with references to the partly immoral moral code in the Quran.

265 29/58d: “- - - to them (Muslims*) shall We (Allah*) give a Home in Heaven, lofty Mansions beneath which flow rivers, to dwell therein for aye - - -”. Like life of the super rich on Earth plus plenty of water and women. Pretty different from Yahweh's Paradise: "- - - they will be like angels in heaven"(f. x. Matt. 22/30). The same god?! Answer not necessary. Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets - or even in related lines? Still no answer necessary.

266 29/58e: "- - - beneath which flow rivers - - -". And two of these rivers are the Nile and the Euphrates, as they start in Paradise according to Hadiths.

267 29/58f: "- - - to dwell therein for aye - - -". See 11/108c above.

268 29/58g: "- - - an excellent reward - - -". The Quran's paradise - see 10/9f - offers peasant weather, top food and drink, top clothes, top housing, easy life, and plenty of sex for the men - - - but nothing to do and no mental activity and nothing else. An excellent reward?

269 29/58h: "- - - those who do (good) - - -". In the Quran this normally is another name for Muslims.

270 29/58i: "- - - do (good) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

271 29/59a: "- - - persevere - - -". A word non-Muslims should never forget.

272 29/59b: "- - - put their trust in their Lord and Cherisher (Allah*)". Risky as long as nothing really is known about him - lots of claims, etc., but no real knowledge. Not even if he really exists is proved.

273 29/60a: "It is Allah who feeds (both) them (all living beings*) and you - - -". See 11/7a above.

274 29/60b: "- - - He (Allah*) hears and knows (all things)". See 2/233h above.

*275 29/61a: “If indeed thou ask them who has created the heavens (plural and wrong - like at least 198 other places in the Quran*) and the earth - - - they (non-Muslims*) will certainly reply, ’Allah’”. Wrong. If they believed a god created it, they would certainly name their own god (which in the old Arabia might have been the polytheist al-Lah, which Muhammad could claim meant his Allah).

276 29/61b: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

277 29/61c: "- - - subjected the sun and the moon (to His (Allah's*) Law) - - -". One more of Muhammad's many never proved claims, See 11/7a above.

###278 29/61d: "- - - they will certainly reply,’ Allah*". Wrong. If they believed the Earth and the rest were created by a god, they would say the name of their own god. But in Arabia a small cheating was easy: The old Arabs would say the name of their god al-Lah, but this is so close to Allah in pronunciation that it was easy to claim they said Allah. (A similar trick is used today, when Muslims and Islam in the west calls Allah "God" - the Christian name for Yahweh. This camouflages a lot of the differences between God/Yahweh and Allah, at least on the surface."

279 29/61e: "How are they (non-Muslims*) then deluded away (from the truth)?" Who is most likely deluded: The one who believe in a book full of mistakes, clearly not from a god, and dictated by a man believing in using lies (al-Taqiyya), half-truths (Kitman), broken oaths according to the Quran, deceit ("war is deceit" - and "everything" jihad), and liking power and women. Or the one not believing? Or the one believing in something else, which just might be a real god?

280 29/61f: "- - - away (from the truth) - - -". See 2/2b and 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

281 29/62a: The reason why some has a meager life but others a rich one, is that Allah in his wisdom decides it like this. Allah decides and predestines.

282 29/62b: "- - - for Allah has full knowledge of all things". See 2/233h above.

283 29/63a: “And if indeed thou ask them (non-Muslims*) who it is that sends down rain from the sky - - - they will certainly reply,’ Allah’”. Wrong. If they at all had mentioned a god, they had mentioned their own god – or the one of them that has to do with rain. Also see f.x. 11/7a and 29/61a+d above.

284 29/63b: "- - - they will certainly reply,’ Allah'". Wrong. See 29/61a+d above.

285 29/63c: "Praise be to Allah!" See 1/1a above - does he deserve it?

286 29/63d: "But most of them (people*) understand not". Perhaps that was exactly what at least some of them did - understood too much.

287 29/64a: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

288 29/64b: "What is the life in this world but amusement and play?" Often claimed, never reliably answered. It may be the only life there is.

289 29/64c: "- - - that (Paradise*) is life indeed - - -". Often claimed, never reliably documented.

290 29/64d: "- - - if they (non-Muslims*) but knew". See 29/63d above.

291 29/66a: "- - - Our (Allah's*) gifts - - -". It is Allah who gives you everything? Easily claimed, never proved.

292 29/66b: "But soon they (non-Muslims*) will know". One more of the many not proved claims - here really a threat - from Muhammad. Especially ironic if what really happened, was that that they knew - knew that things were wrong with his teachings.

293 29/67a: "Do they (opponents of Muhammad*) not - - -". A historical anomaly.

294 29/67b: "- - - a sanctuary secure - - -". The area around the Kabah (Mecca) where fighting and killing is prohibited. Muhammad broke this rule - but like so often got ok from Allah afterwards.

295 29/67c: "- - - men are being snatched away (killed, etc.*) from all around them (people*) - - -". To be flippant - but not only flippant: Is this a reference to the Muslims' killings, raids and wars?

296 29/67d: "- - - do they (opponents of Muhammad*) believe - - -". A historical anomaly.

297 29/67e: "- - - believe in that which is vain - - -". Believe in other gods than Allah. But Muhammad accepted that the old Jewish god Yahweh was real - is belief in him in vain? And the Quran is not from any god - is then belief in Allah in vain or not?

298 29/67f: "- - - the Grace of Allah - - -",. See 1/1a above.

299 29/68a: "And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against Allah?" If Muhammad or someone has made up the Quran, that means they have invented Allah as a single god of the world. But has/have he/they in case sinned against Allah if he does not exist? Advanced philosophy?

300 29/68b: “- - - rejects the Truth (the Quran*) - - -”. Wrong. With such a number of mistakes, it maximum is partly the truth.

301 29/68c: "Is there not a home in Hell for those who reject Faith?". Punishment. See 3/77b above.

302 29/68d: "- - - those who reject the Faith - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

303 29/68e: "- - - Faith - - -". Islam. In the Quran this word only is used for Islam.

304 29/69a: “And those who strive in Our (Cause) – We (Allah*) will certainly guide them to Our Paths - - -“. With so much wrong in the Quran, it is likely that this is wrong, too. At least it is far from a certainty. Also see 29/6 above.

305 29/69b: "- - - strive - - -". In the Quran this word normally refers to armed fighting.

306 29/69c: "- - - We (Allah*) will certainly guide - - -". Anyone using the Quran as a guidebook, is not a reliable guide - too much is wrong, and for religious guidance: A book with so many errors is not from a god.

307 29/69d: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.

308 29/69e: "- - - Our (Allah's*) Paths - - -". The road to Islam's Paradise. See 10/9f above.

309 29/69f: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

310 29/69g: "- - - Allah is with those who do right". One more never proved claim. Claims are cheap, proofs are reliable.

311 29/69h: "- - - those who do right". Muslims.

312 29/69i: "- - - do right - - -". Beware that when words like this are used in the Quran, it is with references to the partly immoral moral code in the Quran. Compare with "do unto others like you want others do unto you", and judge for yourself.

Surah 29: Sub-total: 312 + 12.682 = 12.994 comments.

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