1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 28 -- Al-Qasas  (The Narrations)

Revelation: Mecca 621 AD (verse 85 = 622 AD?)

(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)


 

The quotes and comments

Beware that this surah is full of historical anomalies - we explain just a few of them. See heading and 28/4a.)

001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 28/1: "Ta' Sin Mim". Some surahs start like this with 2 - 5 Arab letters without any meaning, or in the cases they may be have a meaning, that perhaps meaning has no connection to the contents of the surah it belongs to. Nobody knows why they are there. Clear text in the Quran?

###003 28/2: “These are verses of the Book (the Quran*) that makes (things) clear”. With that many mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, and suspect arguments in the book, at most some things can be made clear. But the verse makes it clear that Allah(?) means he is using a clear language with clear information and clear words - not a lot of hidden meanings , like Muslims often claim when what the Quran tells, is wrong. "Oh, no! The book does not mean what it says! It is a parable for a hidden meaning, and must mean so-and-so!" It is one of Islam's standard methods for explaining away even obvious errors. Also see f.x. 26/2 above.

*004 28/3a: “We (Allah*) rehearse to thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) some of the story of Moses and Pharaoh in Truth - - -”. The story about Moses contradicts and differs not a little from the one told in the Bible - which for this part is more than 1000 years nearer in time to what (may be) happened - and with stronger traditions concerning Moses. It is a question, which one is most reliable. In any case: Both have the death of Pharaoh Ramses II wrong (but when it comes to the Bible it is possible to explain this - not so with the Quran, which is told by Allah (or even has existed since eternity and is never made), as Allah is omniscient and omniscient gods makes no mistakes (the human narrator of the Bible may have mixed Ramses II with one of his 67(?) sons or one of his generals - for Allah such a mistake is impossible)).

Moses and his brother Aaron came to Pharaoh Ramses II (one of the really strong and mighty pharaohs in the history of Egypt - may be the mightiest ever). A lot is known about Ramses II, among other things that he did not drown. Because of this you often meet Muslims claiming this happened earlier and under more unknown pharaohs which we do not know from what they died, but science is not in real doubt, and also the years then does not add up.

005 28/3b: “- - - in Truth - - -“. With all the mistakes etc. in the Quran, it at best is just partly true. Also see 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

006 28/3c: "- - - people who believe". Muslims.

007 28/3d: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

008 28/4a: "Truly - - -". See 2/2b above.

009 28/4b: "- - - (Pharaoh*) broke up its (Egypt's*) people in sections - - -". Comment YA3329: "For a king or a ruler to make individual distinctions between his subjects, and especially to depress or oppress any particular class of his subjects, is a dereliction of his kings duties - - -". Is it here pertinent to remind the reader about how Muslims at times and places have treated non-Muslims and sects of Muslims? Or the Arabs' superiority compared to other Muslims, especially the first centuries. Not to mention that it is the Quran's official policy that all non-Muslims shall be suppressed.

010 28/4c: "- - - their (f. x. the Jews'*) sons he (Ramses II*) slew - - -". Remember this sentence the places in the Quran where it is said Ramses II would (start to) kill the sons. Muhammad has mixed up his arguments a little and contradicts himself. (The reason according to the Bible why his mother put Moses to the river, was a desperate try to save him from being killed - the Quran does not give a reason for the god's advice)

011 28/4d: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

###012 28/4e: Historical anomaly: If - like Muslims often claim - the Quran was written before man was created or even has existed since eternity, and everything is predestined - this cannot have happened if man has free will - if man has free will, the laws of chaos had disrupted things long time ago. If there is free will - even partly - any predestination which the god does not carefully follow up and adjust the course of, will be spoiled by the laws of chaos. If there is any marked degree of predestination, man has no free will. And if man has free will, predestination, except in special cases, is impossible. The claim that general predestination is possible to combine with free will for man, simply is one of the mistakes in the Quran (a fact Muslims never can afford to admit, because that means something is seriously wrong with the religion, and it is better to believe in a religion and refuse to see, than to meet the alternative: That the never in any way proved religion is a made up one.)

There are very many historical anomalies in the Quran - we only point (not all of) them. Also see heading over the surahs. But as the Quran claims full predestination, predstination gives all these time anomalies. Yes, even a miniscule piece of free will for man, will destroy full predestination - the laws of chaos guarantees that.

013 28/5a: "And We (Allah*) wished to be gracious to those who were being depressed in the land - - -". There were others who were depressed/slaves in Egypt than the Jews. The Quran here says Allah wanted to help all - contradicting the Bible, where Yahweh this early only took care of the Jews. We only hear about help to the Jews - neither the Bible nor the Quran mentions freeing of other slaves (though it is said that others came along on the Exodus).

014 28/5b: "And We (Allah*) wished to be gracious to those who were being depressed in the land, to make them leaders (in Faith) and make them heirs". This directly contradicts the Bible - and actually also other parts of the Quran: It here says that Allah wanted to make them - in reality the Jews - the religious leaders and the heirs (of Egypt?). But in the Bible and most places in the Quran it is very clear that the subject only was to get the Jews out of Egypt and out of the slavery.

015 28/5c "- - - leaders (in Faith" - here indicated Islam) - - -". But neither Islam, nor any Muslim has till this day found a reliable proof for Islam older than 610 AD. (Moses lived some 2ooo years earlier.)

016 28/5-6: "- - - and make them (the Jews*) heirs, to establish a firm place for them (the Jews*) in the land (Egypt*) - - -". According to the Bible they simply wanted out of Egypt and back to their promised land further north, Canaan and around there.

017 28/6a: "To establish a firm place for them (the Jews*) in the land (Egypt*), and to show Pharaoh, Haman, and their hosts - - - the very thing (the Jews taking over the power in Egypt*) against which they were taking precautions." Wrong - and strongly contradicting both the Bible and parts of the Quran - also see 28/5b above.

018 28/6b: "- - - Pharaoh, Haman, and their hosts - - -". Historical anomalies in the Quran, if that book is from before creation like Muslims claim.

019 28/6c: “- - - Haman - - -”. Science says this is the Haman from the book of Esther in the Bible. Another question also is: Was the name Haman at all used in Egypt? – it is said to be a Persian name. Uneducated Muslims say it just was another man with the same name. Educated Muslims are more careful with that claim.

Haman was according to the Bible, a powerful minister under the Persian king Xerxes (Hebrew: Ahasuerus) (486 - 465 BC) and a central person in the mentioned book - Muhammad may well have heard about him. In that case something is very wrong, because Ramses II naturally was king/pharaoh in Egypt, and on top of that lived some 800 years earlier. Haman could not be his top minister.

Here Islam has an explanation that just may be true: One of the main gods in Egypt at that time was Amon. According to “the Message of the Quran” the title of the high priest of Amon, was Ha-Amen - which could be understood as Haman. Not very likely, especially as this is the kind of “explanations” one frequently finds when Islam has problems finding better stories. But after all possible. Except that a god does not make such mistakes either - a mistake like this means the surah is based on human fallibility. And except for 28/38a: “Pharaoh said: ‘O Chiefs! No god do I know for you but myself - - -”. Pharaoh cannot at the same time be the only god in Egypt ("- - - no other god than me" - very wrong as said, as Egypt was polytheistic), and have the high priest (Ha-Amen) of another god as his second in command. Contradicted by historical facts and by reality - and by the Quran itself. We may mention that such slips you often find in Muslim "explanations" - the "explanation" "explains" some aspects of a mistake or something, but stumble against others and thus shows the "explanation" is a made up one.

So this actually and simply may be one more of the famous Muslim “half-explanations” – They as said explain one aspect with a problem, but are unable to find “explanations” that do not collide with other aspects with the same – or other – problems. Like when they explain the Universe without explaining the stars all fastened to the lowest and material heaven, and the moon among the heavens = outside the stars.

Some Muslims then instead want to explain this with that it was another Haman. But science is not in doubt, it is the same. Another question here is: Was the name Haman at all used in Egypt? – it is said to be a Persian name.

020 28/7a: "- - - inspiration - - -". Nothing is mentioned in the Bible about transferring information or orders from the god to any of the prophets or others by inspiration. But as this was Muhammad's claimed main method, it was of value for him to establish that this also was a normal way of the old. (In the Bible you either find direct contact, visions or dreams when Yahweh wanted to give messages (f.x. 4. Mos.12/6-8).

021 28/7b: The baby Moses: The story here is very lame compared to in the Bible. The details also varies from the Bible - the only old source for Muhammad's claimed story.

022 28/7c Historical anomaly. If the claimed "Mother Book" of the Quran is written before things happen, like Islam claims - may be existed since eternity - the story only can be correct if there is 100% predestination. If even 99% predestination, the laws of chaos would in relatively short time change the story. See heading and 28/4c.

023 28/8a: "Then the people of Pharaoh picked him (Moses*) up (from the river) - - -". The Bible here is much more precise: The daughter of the Pharaoh picked him up from the Nile (2. Mos. 2/5-6). That it was just the daughter of the Pharaoh has a huge significance later, as it means that Moses and Ramses II knew each other well - if numbers are right they were of roughly similar age even.

024 28/8b: “- - - Haman - - -”. See 28/6b above.

025 28/8c: "- - - (it was intended) that Moses should be to them (the Pharaoh and his men*) an adversary and a cause of sorrow, for Pharaoh and Haman and (all) their hosts were men of sin." That it was predestined is nowhere said in the Bible.

026 28/8d: "- - - (it was intended) that Moses should be to them (the Pharaoh and his men*) an adversary and a cause of sorrow, for Pharaoh and Haman and (all) their hosts were men of sin." According to the Bible (no age is given in the Quran) Moses was 80 years when he later returned to free his people. If science has the numbers correctly and we now are around 1235 BC. The old pharaoh had died (2. Mos. 2/23), and Ramses II had now taken over as pharaoh. Haman was a name, not a title (and as far as we have found out not an Egyptian name). A man old enough to have a high position when baby Moses was found, would not be alive 80 years later - not to mention still have a high position. Two plain facts the Quran has "forgotten". (A possible explanation is that Muhammad did not know how old Moses was when things started to happen).

027 28/8e: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

028 28/9a: "The wife of Pharaoh - - -". One thing is that pharaohs normally had several wives. Another that the Bible tells it was a daughter of the Pharaoh (2. Mos.2/5-6), not a ("the") wife.

029 28/9b: "- - - we (Pharaoh and one of his wives*) may adopt him (Moses*) as a son." How likely is it that a mighty pharaoh would even think about adopting a slave baby as a son without a good reason? (Also Ramses II's father, Seti I, which may be the pharaoh involved here, was one of the really mighty pharaohs - and he had children, so there was no cause for adopting more). One thing is for the daughter of a pharaoh to do so, if she or her husband f.x. was sterile. Quite another thing it was for a Pharaoh - with children - to do so.

030 28/9c Historical anomaly. If the claimed "Mother Book" of the Quran is written before things happen, like Islam claims - may be existed since eternity - the story only can be correct if there is 100% predestination. If even 99% predestination, the laws of chaos would in relatively short time change the story. See heading and 28/4c.

031 28/10a: "- - - she (the mother of Moses*) was going almost to disclose his (case)". Also this is not from the Bible - but typical drama like described in cheap books.

032 28/10b: "- - - so that she (the mother of Moses*) might remain a (firm) believer". The word "believer" in the Quran always means "Muslim". Thus according to the Quran, the mother of Moses was a firmly believing Muslim. Believe it whoever wants to.

033 28/11a: The mother of Moses ordered Miriam, to follow him. This order must have been given somewhat earlier than indicated in the Quran - if not Miriam (the sister of Moses according to the Bible - the Quran often is poor on details and facts) could not have followed her brother.

034 28/11b: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

035 28/12a: "And We (Allah*) ordained that he refused the suck at first - - -". Sucking whom? Also here the Quran deviated from the Bible. There Miriam (Moses' sister) simply went up to the daughter of the pharaoh shortly after Moses was found and asked if she should find someone to care for the baby for her (2. Mos. 2/7). From where did Muhammad get this information? As the Quran is not from a god, and as the Bible is the only known written source, there only remains legends, fairy tales and fantasy.

036 28/12b: "And We (Allah*) ordained that he refused the suck at first - - -". This is not from the Bible - the only old, written source about this at the time of Muhammad.

037 28/12c: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

038 28/13a: "- - - the promise of Allah is true - - -". If you ask all Islam even today to show you one single proved case of a promise given by Allah which has been fulfilled by Allah throughout the times, they will not be able to answer you. No such case exists. Lots of claims, some co-incidences, not one proved case.

039 28/13b: "- - - true - - -". See 2/2b above.

040 28/13c: "- - - but most of them (the listeners to Muhammad's tales - non-Muslims*) do not understand". But maybe that was just what at least some of them did - understood that something was very wrong in Muhammad's new religion.

041 28/14a: "- - - We bestowed on him (Moses*) wisdom and knowledge: for thus do We reward those who do good". Simply wrong - you can be as good as the most goodhearted, and it does not influence your intelligence much./p>

042 28/14b: "- - - knowledge - - -". Beware that in the Quran this word normally means religious knowledge mainly.

043 28/14c: "- - - those who do good". Beware that in the Quran words like this normally means people acting according to the Quran's partly immoral moral code.

044 28/15a: "- - - one of his (Moses'*) religion - - -". In the Bible even here it is not a question of religion, but that the victim beaten by an Egyptian, was a Hebrew like Moses. In the Quran everything is religion, in life also other things may play a role.

045 28/15b: "- - - manifestly - - -". In this case it may be true, but see 2/2b above.

046 28/15c: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

047 28/16a: "So (Allah) forgave him (Moses) - - -". There only are two who can forgive: The victim and a god. Thus this sentence only can be true if Allah exists and is a god.

048 28/16b: "- - - He (Allah*) is the Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See f.x. 27/30b above.

49 28/16c: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

050 28/17a: "- - - never shall I (Moses*) be a help to those who sin". T somewhat thought-provoking sentence, as a person who does not sin never existed. (But as the Quran sometimes mean non-Muslims when it says sinners, may be the meaning is that he never would help non-Muslims - - - but how many Muslims existed in reality at the time of Moses?

051 28/17b: "- - - Sin - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exists.

052 28/17-18: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, these verses - and other ones - are historical anomalies and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

053 28/18-19: This scene is a bit differently described in the Bible (2. Mos. 2/13-14).

054 28/19a: "- - - an enemy of both of them - - -". = an Egyptian. In the Bible they in this case both were Hebrews (2. Mos. 2/13).

055 28/19b: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

056 28/20a: "A man came running - etc." Also this is not from the Bible - and the Bible is the only somewhat reliable source for information about this. From where is this - and other - information? From legends? - fairy tales? - fantasy?

057 28/20b: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

058 28/21a: "- - - wrongdoing - - -". Normally in the Quran this word is a synonym for not acting according to Islam and its somewhat "special" moral code.

059 28/21b: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

060 28/22: "- - - Madyan - - -". Islam claims this is the same as the Bible's Midian, and this most likely is correct.

061 28/23a: "And when he (Moses*) arrived at the watering (place) in Madyan - - -". Wrong. Madyan/Midian is a large area with more than one watering place. A detail - but an omniscient god does not have even his details wrong.

062 28/23b: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

063 28/23-28: The story is roughly like in the Bible - the only source - but many details are different.

064 28/24: "Truly - - -". See 2/2b above.

065 28/24-25: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, these verses - and other ones - are historical anomalies and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

066 28/26a: "O my (dear) father! Engage him (Moses*) on wages - - -" According to the Bible it was on his own initiative that Jethro (the name is from the Bible) engaged Moses (2. Mos. 2/20). A minor, but clear contradiction to the Bible.

067 28/26b: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

068 28/27a: "I (Jethro*) intend to wed one of these my daughters to thee, on condition that you serve me for eight years - - -". This is not from the Bible (though the Bible tells he married one of the 7 daughters of Jethro, Zipporah. (2. Mos. 2/21). Maybe a mix up with Jacob's work for 7 years for each of his wives Leah and Rachel (1. Mos. 29/16-28). Jethro also must have been busy getting rid of his daughters, if he the very first day he met a roaming vagabond, told the stranger that he intended to marry a daughter to him.

p>069 28/27b: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it means acting according to the book's partly immoral moral code. 

070 28/27c: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

071 28/28: If the claimed "Mother Book" of the Quran is written before things happen, like Islam claims - may be existed since eternity - the story in this and the neighboring verses only can be correct if there is 100% predestination. If even 99% predestination, the laws of chaos would in relatively short time change the whole story. See heading and 28/4c.

072 28/29a: "- - - Mount Tur - - -". In the Bible it is Mt. Horeb.

073 28/29b: "- - - a burning firebrand, that we (Moses & co.) may warm ourselves". It is extremely unlikely nomads had to rely on wildfire to get fire to warm themselves - or make food. Islam will have to prove this to be believed by us. The sentence also contradicts the Bible (2. Mos. 3/2-3).

074 28/30a: "But when he (Moses*) came to the fire, a Voice was heard from the right bank of the valley, from a tree in a hallowed ground - - -". The Bible says from within the burning bush. A small, but clear contradiction. From where is this piece of information? As the Quran is not from a god, and as it is not from the Bible, there only remain apocryphal (made up) scriptures, legends, fairy tales and fantasy.

075 28/30b: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

076 28/30c: "Verily, I am Allah - - -". In the Bible it is Yahweh who is speaking. Muhammad claims and pretends and perhaps even believes that these two gods just are two names for the same god, but both the gods and their teachings are too different for that this can be true. Muhammad claimed the reason was that the Bible was falsified, but at least on some points he had to be aware that he was not speaking the truth - like when he claimed that even if the god proved himself - by means of f.x. miracles - people would not believe anyhow.

077 28/30d: "Verily, I am Allah the Lord of the Worlds..." Often claimed in the Quran, but never proved. On the other hand the Bible claims it was Yahweh - another god with fundamentally another teaching - who was speaking. Yahweh has proved himself if the Quran and/or the Bible speaks the truth on this point, Allah not.

078 28/30e: "- - - Allah, the Lord of the Worlds - - -". Often claimed, never documented.

079 28/30f: “- - - Worlds - - -“. The Quran falsely tells there are 7 Earths. See 26/77 above and 65/12 below.

080 28/30g: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

081 28/31: A main difference between the Bible and the Quran, is that - like in this verse - the story is transformed from telling a history and indirect speech to direct speech. This gives the tale more drama - - - but from where did he get the words and the added details (unlike many places where the same story is told in the two books, the Quran hers has more details than the Bible).

082 28/32a: "- - - it (Moses' hand) will come forth white without stain (or harm) - - -". In the Bible it came out "leprous like snow" (2. Mos. 4/6) - more and real drama, as leprosy was an illness giving stigma - - - and more dramatic when it afterwards was healed (2. Mos. 4/7).

083 28/32b: "- - - Those (the rod/snake and the white hand) were the two credentials - - -". In the Bible there is one more: If Moses took some water from the Nile and poured it on the ground, it would become blood (2. Mos.4/9).

084 28/33: "- - - truly - - -". See 2/2b above.

085 28/33b: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

086 28/34a: "- - - my (Moses'*) brother Aaron - - -". 2 historical anomalies.

087 28/34b: If the claimed "Mother Book" of the Quran is written before things happen, like Islam claims - may be existed since eternity - the story in this and in the neighboring verses only can be correct if there is 100% predestination. If even 99% predestination, the laws of chaos would in relatively short time change the whole story. See heading and 28/4c.

088 28/34c: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/.

089 28/35: “- - - Our (Allah’s*) Signs - - -“. See 27/81, 2/39b and 2/99 above.

090 28/36a: “- - - Our (Allah’s*) Clear Signs - - -“. See 27/81 and 2/99 above.

091 28/36b: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

092 28/37a: "- - - guidance - - -". See 2/2b above.

093 28/37b: "- - - certain is it - - -". With so much wrong in the Quran, little is certain without additional proofs.

094 28/37c: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". Normally "Quran-speak" for non-Muslims. The word is not a little "loaded". One of Muhammad's many distaste provoking names for non-Muslims.

*095 28/38a: “Pharaoh said: ‘O Chiefs! No god do I know for you but myself - - -”. This is one of the really good ones, because Egypt at the time of Ramses II had a good number of gods, included some central ones with a strong clerical organization - not to mention: How then explain Islam‘s own story about Ha-Amen in 28/6 above? (It is typical for many “explanations” of mistakes in the Quran that Muslims “explain” some aspects of it, but are then unable not to “collide” with other information in the book - f.x. explaining the heavens as the modern universe without telling how the stars then could be fastened to the lowest heaven). But at the time of Muhammad the old gods were reduced - Egypt was partly Christian (the forefathers of the present-day Copts). A real god had not made this blunder, but Muhammad could not know. Then who composed the Quran?

Islam tries to explain this away with that it is not meant literally - only that Ramses II was the top. But in this case - like so often - it is very clear what the Quran says. And also remember that the Quran - and most Muslims - say that the Quran is to be meant literally where nothing else is said - - - and to call something an allegory or say it is figuratively meant, we think is the for Islam the most used means of explaining away of things/mistakes in the Quran which has no explanation.

096 28/38b: “- - - Haman - - -”. See 28/6b above.

097 28/38c: “(Pharaoh said*) “O Haman (minister for Xerxes some 800 hundred years later and hundreds of km further east – in Persia - and not an Egyptian name either*)! - Light me a (kiln to bake bricks) out of clay - - -". Egypt at that time did not use burnt bricks, but bricks made of a mixture of clay and straw (this actually is mentioned in the Bible in 2. Mos.5/7-15) dried in the sun. It even would be meaningless to burn this kind of bricks, because the straw would be burnt to ashes. Egypt had the technology for burning clay - they had pottery. But sundried bricks were much cheaper, and good enough for most purposes in that very dry climate. Any god had known, Muhammad obviously not. Who made the Quran?

098 28/38d: (A28/37 – YA3371): “(Pharaoh said*) “O Haman (minister for Xerxes several hundred years later and hundreds of km further east, in Persia - and not an Egyptian name either*)! - - - build me a lofty place, that I may mount up to the god of Moses - - -.” Muslims like to tell this does not refer to something like the tower of Babylon (built from bricks), but to a pyramid - - - and without mentioning a single word about well known facts like it took some 20-30 years to build a big pyramid (and Ramses II at the time science believe this happened if it happened, was not young), or that the pyramids in Egypt were built from natural stones, not from brick, so a kiln has no connection to them. There also is quite a difference between a palace and a pyramid.

099 28/38e: (A28/37 – YA3371) A real question here is, is this (see 28/38d just above) the correct meaning of the Arab word “ittali’u”. Or did Pharaoh wish that “- - - haply I may have a look at the god of Moses - - -”? Or (translated from Swedish): “- - - that I may get some information about the god of Moses - - -.” Not too big variations in the meanings, but far from “exact to the last comma” like Muslims like to boast of.

Another open question: Is this sarcasm or a seriously meant order? – the Quran does not tell and nobody knows. The famous exact language of the Quran!

100 28/38f: If the Quran was written before this happened, or if the book has existed since eternity, like Islam often claims, this verse - and other ones - is a historical anomaly and could not be reliably written in the claimed "Mother Book" unless there is full predestination, because the laws of chaos in a short time would change first details and then bigger things, a fact which makes the claim impossible, except if there is 100% predestination of everything (and in that case free will for man does not exist - not even a small piece. In spite of the Quran's claims, not even an omnipotent god can combine those two claims). See heading and 28/4e.

101 28/39a: "- - - they (the Egyptians*) thought they would not have to return to Us (Allah - at the Day of Doom)!" If Allah does not exist or if he is not a major god, none of which is clear (there only are claims from a morally doubtful and not entirely reliable person), they were right.

102 28/39b: "- - - they (the Egyptians*) thought they would not have to return to Us (Allah - at the Day of Doom)!" Comment YA3372: "They (the Egyptians*) did not believe in the Hereafter." This is an unbelievable comment, as there have been few cultures ever which have been so concentrated on the next life as the old Egyptians. That f.x. was the reason for mummifying and pyramids.

103 28/39c If the claimed "Mother Book" of the Quran is written before things happen, like Islam claims - may be existed since eternity - the story only can be correct if there is 100% predestination. If even 99% predestination, the laws of chaos would in relatively short time change the story. See heading and 28/4c.

*104 28/40a: “So We (Allah*) sized him (Ramses II*) and his hosts, and flung them into the sea - - -”. Wrong at least for Ramses II himself - he did not drown and he died years later.

105 28/40b: “So We (Allah*) sized him (Pharaoh*) and his host, and Flung them into the sea: now behold what was the End of those who did wrong!” Well, one thing is that according to the Bible, they were not flung into the sea. But more essential just here is this contradiction:

19/92: “This day (the same day as 28/40*) shall We (Allah*) save thee (Pharaoh Ramses II*) in the body - - -.” Not “save the body” like many Muslims like to insist, but “in the body”. Save him bodily - alive.

106 28/40c: "- - - those who did wrong!" In the Quran normally synonymous with non-Muslims - one of Muhammad's many distance-inducing names for non-Muslims.

107 28/40d: "- - - did wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran

108 28/41-42: Punishment. See 3/77b above.

109 28/41: "- - - the Fire - - -". Hell.

110 28/42: "In this world We (Allah*) made a Curse to follow them (Ramses II and his people*) - - -". Not from the Bible (like many of the details in this story). Then from where, as the claim that it is from a god is wrong? - too many errors in the book.

111 28/43a: “We (Allah*) revealed to Moses the Book”. Wrong. Moses got no book. The books of Moses were written centuries later - they just were named after him. (According to the Bible Moses got the 10 commandments only in writing. In addition he was told the law, which he himself wrote down later - sometimes called "the Book of Covenant". The laws are parts of the later Books of Moses).

The claim is even more wrong as Muhammad's claim was that earlier prophets got a book similar to the Quran (copies of the same claimed "Mother Book" - though with some claimed variations as time passed to adjust it to new situations, without we have ever seen or heard Muslims explain how exact copies of a claimed timeless book revered by a god and his angels, can vary), and the naked laws in the "Books of Moses", are something quite different from the Quran.

112 28/43b: “We (Allah*) revealed to Moses the Book (wrong - the books of Moses were written centuries later according to science*) after We had destroyed the earlier generations - - -”. More generations between Noah and Moses killed off - Allah was a far keener worker than Yahweh, at least in the killing business. But which generations? (The Bible tells the Jews did not enter their promised land until the generation who had lived in Egypt had died off - 40 years later under Joshua. But if this is what is meant, there is a difference between "died off naturally" and "destroyed".

113 28/43c: "- - - Insight - - - Guidance - - -". No book claimed similar to the Quran gives reliable insight or guidance - too much is wrong.

114 28/43d: "- - - Mercy (indicated from Allah*) - - -". See 1/1a above.

115 28/43e: "- - - that they (the Jews*) might receive admonition". You do not receive much admonition from a made up - or at least not from a god - book like the Quran with all its errors. If Muses like the Quran indicates got another copy of the same claimed "Mother Book", the reality will be the same there - 2 copies of the same book will be pretty similar - at least if Muslims do not engage mysticism to change the different copies.

116 28/45a: “- - - Our (Allah’s*) Signs - - -“. No omniscient god would use invalid signs. See 27/81, 2/39 and 2/99 above.

117 28/45b: "- - - it is We (Allah*) Who sent messengers - - -". The Quran claims that Allah sent lots of prophets (124ooo or more according to Hadiths), but not one of those claims are proved, and not a single trace from all those claimed prophets are ever found neither by science, nor by Islam. The only one which is "proved" sent by Allah, is Muhammad - and was he really sent, and in case by whom as no god sends anyone teaching something full of mistakes, etc.?

118 28/45c: "- - - (with inspiration) - - -". This word is hardly mentioned in the Bible as a means for the god to give information or orders. But as this was the method by which Muhammad claimed he got(?) most of his verses, it was essential to impress on his followers that this was a normal way of communication between the god and prophets, you find similar claim connected to many prophets or claimed prophets in the Quran.

119 28/46a: "- - - (the Mountain of) Tur - - -". But the Bible says Moses met Yahweh at Mt. Horeb (2. Mos. 3/1-2).

120 28/46b: "- - - when We (Allah*) called (to Moses) - - -". A historical anomaly.

121 28/46c: "Yet (art thou (Muhammad*) sent) - - -". A historical anomaly.

122 28/46d: "Yet (art thou (Muhammad*) sent) as a Mercy - - -". Muhammad was not much of a mercy to the Arabs - a power, but not a mercy.

123 28/46e: "Yet (art thou (Muhammad*) sent) as a Mercy from thy Lord (Allah*) - - -". Muhammad with his Quran full of errors and mistakes was from no god.

124 28/46f: "- - - (you Muhammad are*) to give a warning - - -". As soon as Muhammad had enough brute power, he started giving much more than a warning".

125 28/46g: "- - - (you Muhammad are*) to give a warning to a people to whom no warner had come before thee - - -". According to the Quran, the Arabs had had at least these warners: Abraham (claimed to have been in Mecca), Hud, Salih, Shu’yab, and Moses (some Muslims claim the Quran tells the truth, because none of these had been in Medina. But when you talk about a people, you talk about a people - in this case the Arabs - unless otherwise is specified. If you make the area small enough in cases like this, you may make anything look true.)

126 28/46h: "- - - that they (Arabs*) may receive admonition". And what value would such an admonition in reality have, when there is no god behind the teaching and the book? - no god was ever behind a book so full of errors, contradictions, etc.

127 28/47a: "If (We (Allah*) had) not (sent thee (Muhammad*) to the Quraysh (the leading tribe in Mecca*)) - - -". But was Muhammad a man from an omniscient god? - impossible; there are too much wrong in his "facts", etc.

128 28/47b: "- - - (- - - the Quraysh) - - -". A historical anomaly.

129 28/47c: "- - - (the deeds) that their hands (in this case the Qurayshs'*) have sent forth - - -". An Arab expression for the good and bad deeds you will be judged from at the Day of Doom. An Arabism - see 4/13d above.

130 28/47c: “- - - Thy (Allah's*) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

131 28/47d: "- - - those who believe - - -". Muslims - the Quran uses such expressions only for Muslims.

132 28/47e: If the claimed "Mother Book" of the Quran is written before things happen, like Islam claims - may be existed since eternity - the story only can be correct if there is 100% predestination. If even 99% predestination, the laws of chaos would in relatively short time change the story. See heading and 28/4c.

*133 28/48a: “- - - When the Truth (the Quran*) has come to them (the Quraysh - the leading tribe in Mecca*) - - -”. If it was not because the word “truth” is so central and so disused in Islam, we had stopped commenting on it long time ago - it is so obvious that the Quran can be only partly the truth, at best. See all the mistakes - some small, some big blunders, some repeated many times and really cemented - - - but even one mistake is impossible for an omniscient god. Is Allah omniscient? Or did someone else compose the Quran? If Allah is not omniscient, that means something is wrong with the religion - not to mention if he does not exist. If Muhammad or another human composed it, it is a false religion. The same and even worse if it in reality is from the dark forces.

***And if it is a false religion and there somewhere exists a real, true one, to which Islam blocks the road to for its believers - - - what then in a possible next life for the Muslims?

*134 28/48b: “- - - When the Truth (the Quran*) has come to them (the Quraysh*) from Ourselves (Allah*) - - -". No god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.

135 28/48c: "- - - the Truth - - -". See 2/2b and 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

136 28/48d: "- - - they (the Quraysh*) say - - -". A historical anomaly.

137 28/48e: "- - - they (the Quraysh*) say, 'Why are not (Signs) sent - - -". How could this reliably be written in the claimed "Mother Book" long time before, is predestination if less than 100%?

138 28/48f: "Why were not (Signs) sent down to him (Muhammad) - - -?" There were frequent questions for proofs - Muhammad never was able to produce anything about it but fast talk and explaining away.

139 28/48g: "- - - Moses - - -". A time anomaly if this is claimed written before Moses - and many Muslims claim it is written long before.

140 28/48h: "They (the Quraysh*) say - - -". A historical anomaly.

141 28/48i: "They (the Quraysh*) say: 'Two kinds of sorcery - - -'". How could this reliably be written in the claimed "Mother Book" long time before, is predestination if less than 100%?

142 28/48j: "And they (the Quraysh*) say - - -". A historical anomaly.

143 28/48k: "And they (the Quraysh*) say: 'For us, we reject- - -'". How could this reliably be written in the claimed "Mother Book" long time before, is predestination if less than 100%?

144 28/48l: “- - - (the Signs) - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39 above.

145 28/49a: “Then bring ye (non-Muslims*) a Book (the Quran*) from Allah - - -". A very easy demand for Muhammad to put forth, especially if he knew Allah did not exist.

146 28/49b: “Then bring ye (non-Muslims*) a Book (the Quran*) from Allah, which is a better Guide - - -“. A book that full of wrong facts, twisted arguments, contradictions, invalid statements and as invalid logic is no good guide for anyone.

147 28/49c: “Then bring ye (non-Muslims*) a Book (the Quran*) from Allah - - - if ye are truthful!" Muhammad always demanded proofs from everybody else - but NEVER proved anything essential himself. This means he meant proofs were essential, but that he himself was unable to produce such essentials.

148 28/49d: "- - - a better Guide than either of them - - -". Which books? The Torah (the old Jewish)?, - the Bible? - the NT? - the Gospels? - the Quran? Muslims have a tendency to say the Torah and the Quran. In that case it is easy to point to better guide - or for that case guides. The NT with its new covenant is way ahead of the Quran, if one believe a possible god is good and benevolent - and intelligent and with much knowledge (the Quran is full of wrong facts - you find mistakes in the NT, too, but not by the shipfulls like in the Quran.

But it is not clearly said in the Quran which books it here means - unclear language like so often in the Quran.

149 28/49e: "- - - I (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

150 28/49f: "- - - if ye (opponents*) are truthful!" It is remarkable that Muhammad demanded truthful speech from others, but he himself accepted lies, deceit, and even broken oaths.

Or perhaps just that is not remarkable.

151 28/50a: "But if they (“infidels”*) hearken not to thee (Muhammad*), know that they only follow their own lusts - - -.” The fact was that many followed their own knowledge - but to use the word "lust" sounded better for Muhammad and his followers naturally.

152 28/50b: "- - - guidance from Allah - - -". Only possible if Allah exists, and in addition is a "guide".

153 28/50c: "- - - guidance from Allah (the Quran and Muhammad*) - - -". There is not much reliable guidance in a guide-book full of mistakes. And what about a guide believing in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), deception ("war is deceit" - and everything is jihad), and breaking his word/promise/oath?

154 28/50d: "For Allah guides not - - -". See 28/50b above.

155 28/50e: "For Allah guides not people given to wrongdoing." Once more a deep difference in the teachings of the Quran and the NT: Just these ones are "the lost lambs" NT/Jesus/Yahweh tries to reach more than any others with guidance. (Luke 15/8-10 + 15/11-31 and Matt. 18/12-14 + 20/8-13).

156 28/50f: "For Allah guides not people given to wrongdoing." One may ask who - if anyone - then guided the Muslims the next centuries? - you find much wrongdoing and worse in Islamic histories during that period.

157 28/50g: "- - - wrongdoing". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

158 28/50h: If the claimed "Mother Book" of the Quran is written before things happen, like Islam claims - may be existed since eternity - the story only can be correct if there is 100% predestinatin. If even 99% predestination, the laws of chaos would in relatively short time change the story. See heading and 28/4c.

159 28/51a: "- - - them (the opponents of Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

160 28/51b: "- - - receive admonition". - from a book full of errors and worse?

161 28/52a: "Those to whom We (Allah*) sent the Book before this - - -". Muhammad claimed the Quran was a confirmation and a correction of the (claimed falsified) Bible. Here thus is referred to Jews and Christians.

162 28/52b: “(Jews and Christians*) – they do believe in this (Revelation) - - -“. Flatly wrong. And flatly dishonest. A few became Muslims according to Islam, but the overwhelming majority had to flee, were made slaves, or were killed/murdered/executed because they refused to believe in Muhammad’s tales. Cfr. f.x. what happened in and around Medina and Khaybar in the years after this surah was told (in 621 AD or later). Contradicted by reality and dishonesty. And: One more place where an intelligent man like Muhammad knew he was lying, because this he knew.

163 28/52c: "- - - they (Jews and Christians at the time of Muhammad*) - - -". A time anomaly.

164 28/52d: "- - - this (Revelation (the Quran*)) - - -". Was the Quran really a revelation? - and in case from whom, as no god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran?

*165 28/53a: “They (Jews and Christians at the time of Muhammad*) say - - -". A historical anomaly.

*166 28/53b: “They (Jews and Christians*) say: ‘We believe therein - - -". This could not be reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" long time before, unless predestination was 100%.

*167 28/53c: “They (Jews and Christians*) say: ‘We believe therein, for it is the Truth from our Lord - - -“. Well, this is what Muhammad claimed. The reality as clearly told in Islamic written sources about what you find in 28/52a above - and like in 28/52a also here Muhammad had to know he was lying, because this he knew was untrue. It may have been true for some, but only for some in case. Also see 28/48a and 28/48b. A few Jews and Christians may or may not have become Muslims - there only are Muslim sources for the claims - but the majority clearly said no, even in the face of persecution and murder.

168 28/53d: “- - - for it (the Quran*) is the Truth - - -”. No. With that many mistakes, etc., the Quran is not the truth - at best partly the truth. At best.

169 28/53e: “- - - for it (the Quran*) is the Truth from our Lord (Allah*) - - -.” A book with that many mistakes, contradictions, and other errors is not from a god – omniscient or not. And the Bible means it was Yahweh.

170 28/53f: “- - - the Truth - - -“. The Quran at best only is partly true – too many mistakes, etc.

171 28/53g: "- - - our Lord - - -" Yahweh or Allah in this case?

172 28/53h: “- - - indeed we (the Jews and Christians*) have been Muslims (bowing to Allah’s will) from before this”. No comments necessary – except see f.x. 28/48a, 28/48b or 28/52 above.

173 28/53i: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

174 28/54a: "Twice they (Jews and Christians converting to Islam*) will be given their reward. It is unclear what here is meant. Some Muslims believe it is meant they will be rewarded for being believers in the god before, and then once more for converting to Islam, but like so often the Quran has unclear speech.

175 28/54b: Rewards. Often promised in the Quran, never clearly proved neither there nor any other place, included not in reality.

176 28/54c: "- - - persevere - - -". This is a word non-Muslims should never forget is impressed and impressed on Muslims: Persevere, and the "enemy" tires and gives in - and you have won. Too often it has proved correct.

177 28/54d: "- - - evil - - - Good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

178 28/54e: "- - - (in charity) - - -". One of the plus point for Islam, is its stressing of charity. But with the minuses that the main point is not to help persons in need, but to gain marks in Heaven, and the fact that you gain as good marks from helping your nearest family, as from helping strangers. Strangers then easily end up a bit down on the priority list.

179 28/54f: "- - - out of what We (Allah*) have given them (Muslims*)". According to the Quran Allah have given you everything you have. But had you had so much if you relied on Allah's predestination - that he according to his Plan shall give you this and this - and stopped working? - or if a warrior; stopped stealing?

180 28/55a: “To us (Muslims*) our deeds, and to you (“infidels”*) yours; peace be to you - - -.” Mecca 621 or 622 AD carried a much more peaceful tone in the Quran than after Muhammad gained strength from 622 – 624 AD and needed a religion more fit for robberies, raids and war – and got it from Allah (or was it Allah who wanted more blood than before?) – resulting in contradiction with and abrogation of the old teachings. This verse is contradicted and often “killed” (abrogated) by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

181 28/55b: "- - - the ignorant - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it normally is meant those who are ignorant of the Quran or refuses it.

182 28/55c: "- - - the ignorant - - -". One of Muhammad's many negatively loaded names for non-Muslims.

183 28/56a: "- - - guide - - -". This is about Muhammad as guide. See 28/50c above.

184 28/56b: "- - - but Allah guides whom He wills". Whereas Yahweh according to NT guides all and everybody who wishes to be guided (f. x. Luke 15/8-10 + 15/11-31 and Matt 18/12-14 + 20/8-13). Just and only here is such a fundamental abyss between the ways Allah and Yahweh thinks and acts, that only this is a 110% proof for that they were not the same god, even if there had not been other differences - but there are many.

185 28/56c: "And He (Allah*) knows best those who receive guidance (become good Muslims*)". Why then does he have to test people?

186 28/56d: "- - - guidance". There is not much true religious guidance in a book with no god behind it - and there is no god behind a book so full of errors like the Quran - and no good forces preaching so much hate, suppression and blood.

187 28/57a: "They (skeptics to Muhammad*) say - - -". A historical anomaly.

188 28/57b: "They (skeptics to Muhammad*) say: 'If we were to follow - - -". This could not reliably be written into the claimed "Mother Book" long time before - and later copied into the Quran - if predestination is not 100% (and then there also is no free will for man - Islam is wrong in claiming that both are possible to combine).

189 28/57c: "- - - guidance with thee (Muhammad*) - - -". Many were skeptical to this already then - may be they understood too much?

190 28/57d: "- - - secure sanctuary - - -". Mecca - the place was holy even before Muhammad, and war prohibited. Or Paradise. Like so often the language in the Quran is not very clear.

191 28/57e: "But most of them (Skeptics*) understand not". May be that was just what they did - understood that something was wrong, and seriously wrong, with Muhammad's new religion.

192 28/57f: If the claimed "Mother Book" of the Quran is written before things happen, like Islam claims - may be existed since eternity - the story only can be correct if there is 100% predestination. If even 99% predestination, the laws of chaos would in relatively short time change the story. See heading and 28/4c.

193 28/58a: "And how many populations We (Allah*) destroy - - -". A good and benevolent god.

194 28/58b: "Now those habitations of theirs, after them, are deserted - - -" We are back to the ruins and deserted houses in and around Arabia: All were killed because they sinned against Allah according to Muhammad. But scientists points to a number of other explanations, and Islam will have to produce (not literally) proofs in order to be believed by them.

*195 28/59a: “Nor was thy Lord (Allah*) one to destroy a population until he had sent to its Centre a messenger - - -”. The Quran speaks about lots of prophets - in the Hadith it is mentioned 124ooo through the times and throughout the world. (And one impolite, but pertinent reminder: Muhammad was unable to make real prophesies – he in reality was no prophet, he only “borrowed” that big title). But with the exception of Israel and to a degree in Persia (and some rulers who did so on their own accord for political reasons + a small sect in Arabia, most likely inspired by Jews and Christians) there are no traces anywhere, any time after prophets for monotheistic religions - not in history, not in archaeology, not in literature, not in art, not in architecture - not even in folklore or fairy tales.

*Besides: MANY places were destroyed by war, famine or other catastrophes through the time without being visited by prophets for a monotheistic religion warning them first (f.x. Ache in Indonesia in the tsunami in 2004) - in spite of the Quran’s saying all such things only happen in accordance with the Plan of Allah.

The verse is wrong. And we are also not sure that such a vengeful and hard god is a good or benevolent god – when someone says or declares one thing, but demands or does something else, we always believe that the demands and the deeds are more reliable than cheap words. Similar claims in 17/15 - 17/16.

196 28//59b: “- - - Our (Allah’s*) Signs - - -“. No god would use invalid signs/proofs. See 2/99.

197 28/59c: "- - - nor are We (Allah*) going to destroy a population except when its members practice iniquity". Does this mean that whenever there are f.x. natural catastrophes the victims are bad people? - f. x. the Muslims of North Sumatra in the Tsunami? (Also others were hit in that tsunami, but Muslims by far hardest.)

198 28/60a: "- - - but that which is with Allah is better and more enduring - - -". Correct - but only if the Quran tells the full truth. And if it is from a god - and if Allah exists and is a god.

199 28/60b: "- - - will ye (non-Muslims*) not then be wise (and become Muslims*)?" The wise thing to do is first to check if a religion can be true. It often is difficult to prove that a religion is true - actually only the god himself can prove this. But sometimes facts shows that it cannot be true, though Islam is the only of the big religions which itself directly proves that something is seriously wrong, to say it politely - to blame a god for a book with so much mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, etc. on a god, is an insult, slander and heresy. And if there is no god behind Muhammad and the Quran, what then is Islam?

200 28/61a: “Are (these two) alike? - one to whom We (Allah*) have made a goodly promise (Muslim*) - - - and one (non-Muslim*) who We have given the good things of this life, but who (will go to Hell*)?” Another rhetoric question with an obvious answer enlarging “our” self-esteem and feeling of righteousness. But with an addition: Many religions have a problem with non-believers or believers who are not really good people who have a good life in this world. So also Islam. But the Quran explains this very simple - like some other religions: It is Allah who in his unfathomable wisdom has decided it like that - to try the bad person or for some other reason only Allah understands - but Allah is going to punish him in the next life. A fulfilling explanation that leaves the others' envy half satisfied, and their gloating also half satisfied - and our self esteem at least on par or a little in plus.

You find this argument in variations time and again and again in the Quran.

But is the underlying explanation valid? - that it is for to try persons? Because why does a predestining, omniscient god have to try anyone at all? - and why, if it in reality is Allah who predestines everything one does according to MANY places in the Quran? If he predestines everything, he also predestines what you do during a test. (With full predestination free will for man does not exist - there are immaterial things impossible also for omnipotent gods, In spite of Islam's lame try to explain away the fact that they see this is impossible: "It must be true all the same, because Allah say so in the Quran" (freely quoted after the Swedish "Message of the Quran" - remark A6/141 to verse 6/149).

201 28/61b: "- - - one to whom We (Allah*) have made a goodly promise (Muslim*) - - -". One should beware, though, that throughout history there is not reported one single really proved case neither of Allah giving a promise, nor of Allah keeping a promise. Especially the last case would have been heavily reported by Islam.

202 28/61c: "- - - one to whom We (Allah*) have made a goodly promise (Muslim*) - - -". But for one thing it has never been documented that Allah ever gave a promise - there only is the word of a man with a doubtful morality and reliability - even according to central Islamic literature - for it. And for another thing there never was documented that Allah ever kept a promise. Yes, not even his existence is in any way documented - there only are Muhammad’s claims. (This is a main reason why Islam can accept nothing negative about Muhammad - true or not. He was in many ways a doubtful person, but he is all they have to build on - if his true nature should be highlighted, Islam might collapse.)

114b 28/61d: "- - - one to whom We (Allah*)have given the good things of this life, but who, on the Day of Judgment, is to be brought up (for punishment) - - -". Muhammad's standard explanations for why some non-Muslims had a good life, whereas some Muslims had a miserable one: Allah’s unfathomable decision. But sooth yourself: They will be punished in the end, and Muslims come out on top (this is a strange thing - in all ideologies the leaders tells that the ones who obeys them and follow the ideology, are the ones who will in some way or other come out on top).

203 28/62a: "That Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

204 28/62b: "Where are My (Allah's*) 'partners'?" It may well be correct that they do not exist. But does a claimed god who in 1400 - and actually thousands according to the Quran - years never has given a clear proof for his existence, really exist? Or is he, too, a made up god?

205 28/62-66: Punishment. See 3/77b above.

##206 28/63: "Those whom we (non-Muslims*) lead astray, as we were astray ourselves - - -”.

Comment A28/66: “In its deepest sense, this passage – as so many similar throughout the Quran – points to the moral inadmissibility of accepting an ethical or intellectual proposition as true on no other grounds than that is was held to be true for older generations.”

For members of a religion based only – only – on a book with many mistakes and wrongs and with partly malevolent moral and ethical rules (but so integrated and accepted in and by their religion and culture, that they themselves are unable to see anything wrong or how bad it really is), this should be a reason for some deep thinking, and especially for Muslims.

207 28/64a: "- - - your (non-Muslims'*) "partners" - - -". Your made up gods.

208 28/64b: "- - - but they (other gods than Allah*) will not answer them (people*) - - -". A central question for Muslims if there is a Day of Doom: Will there really be an Allah able to answer them? and will he in case belong to the light or the dark forces? Oh, there will be a similar first question - the second one we think is answered if the old books tell the truth - to f.x. Jews and Christians, but after all Yahweh at least has proved his existences (which Allah has not) - - - if the old books tell the truth.

209 28/64c: "- - - the Penalty - - -". Hell.

210 28/64d: "If only they had been open to guidance!" If there exists a god, he may say things like this if there is a Day of Doom. But which god? What is sure is that it is not an Allah like described in the Quran, because the Quran is not sent down from any god - no god makes so many errors, etc. like you find in the Quran. And if it is not Allah who asks, what the about all Muslims? - they not only have not been "open to guidance" except from the mentioned "guide-book", but have been blocked from even looking for what may be the truth - Islam or other religions? If there is a god that day, the situation may be little fun for the ones who cannot be accepted by him (or them).

211 28/64e: "- - - guidance - - -". There is little guidance in a guide-book full of mistakes, etc. like the Quran.

212 28/65: "That Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

**213 28/67a: "But any that (in this life) had repented, believed, and worked righteousness, will have hopes to be among those who achieve salvation". Only hope? If you are a warrior you are sure - at least if you are killed in war. This verse tells something.

214 28/67b: "- - - believed - - -". Been a Muslim - only Muslims believe in the Quran. Though there are a couple of indications for that also really god Jews and Christians may - may - be accepted to Paradise.)

215 28/67c: "- - - righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is relative to the book's own partly immoral moral code and hardly existing empathy.

216 28/68a: “Thy (Muslims’*) Lord (Allah*) does create and choose as he pleases - - -". As for creation see 21/56c above.

217 28/68b: “Thy (Muslims’*) Lord (Allah*) does create and choose as he pleases: no choice have they (non-Muslims*) (in the matter)”. No matter what you do, you can do nothing to change the destination Allah has predestined.

218 28/68c: (A28/74): “Thy Lord (Allah*) does create and choose as He pleases: no choice have they (in the matter) - - -.” A clear message and in full compliance to Allah’s power of predestination. But predestination collides with man’s presumed (partly? according to some Muslims) free will (predestination and free will - even partly - is mutually excluding each other. The combination of the two is even theoretically impossible, and Muslims goes to a lot of pain to reduce both (“not real predestination” and “partly free will”) to make space for a little of both, but no matter: It still is even theoretically impossible to combine them - - - except in religious wishful thinking. Can that be the reason why this explanation is preferred by many Muslims (Zamakhshari, etc.): “(Allah) chooses (for mankind) whatever is best for them.” Then the problem of predestination is omitted – and both translations are possible from the Arab text “ma kana lahum al-khiyarah”. (Al-khiyarah or khirah (depending on what vowels you place there) = “choice” or “freedom to choose”). Just you choose - as mentioned a couple of times the texts in the Quran often far from is "clear and easy to understand".

219 28/68d: "- - - glory to Allah!" See 1/1a above and see if he deserves it.

220 28/68e: "And far is He (Allah*) above the partners they ascribe (to Him)". If he is a real god and there are no other gods: Yes. If he is made up: No.

221 28/68f: "And far is He (Allah*) above the partners they ascribe (to Him)" There also is the question about Yahweh. No believer in Yahweh - at least none who also have studied the Quran some - recons Yahweh to be a "partner" of Allah - a god beside Allah. He is instead of Allah. And what then? - especially if Allah does not exist or belongs to the dark forces?

222 28/69a: "And thy (Muslims') Lord (Allah*) knows all that their (peoples')hearts conceal - - -". The old reminder: Do not try to cheat Allah - and hence his representative on Earth.

223 28/69b: "And thy (Muslims') Lord (Allah*) knows all that their (peoples')hearts conceal - - -". But why then does a predestining, omniscient god need to test people - f.x. by sending them into war?

224 28/70a: "And He is Allah". Only if he exists. And he in case only is a god if he is a god and not something else.

225 28/70b: "There is no god but He (Allah)". An often repeated, but never proved claim - and based only on the words of a man whom Islam's book show (not "say", but "show") was a man of depraved moral and with lust for power, riches for "gifts" to attract and keep followers, and for women. Also see 2/255a and 6/106b above.

226 28/70c: "There is no god but He (Allah)". If f.x. Yahweh exists, this claim is not true. And we remind you that even the Quran admits (if it is not wrong here, too) that this old Jewish and Christian god exists (but Muhammad wrongly mixes him with Allah).

227 28/70d: "To Him (Allah*) be praise - - -". Please read 1/1a above and see if He deserves it.

228 28/70e: "- - - for Him (Allah*) is the command - - -". Similar things are often said in the Quran and by Muslims, but never proved anywhere. The only basis for the claim, is a book full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. based only on the word of a man believing in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), deceit ("War is deceit" - and "everything" is jihad/holy war), and the breaking of words/promises/oaths according to the Quran itself - a man liking power and riches for bribes - - - and women.

229 28/70f: "- - - to Him (Allah*) shall ye (all) be brought back". The same comment as for 28/70b just above. Plus: Only if Allah exists and is a major god correctly described in the Quran.

230 28/71a: "If Allah were to - - -". See 14/19d above.

231 28/71b: "If Allah were to make the night perpetual over you to the Day of Judgment, what god is there other than Allah, who can give you enlightenment?" A theoretical experiment totally without logical value as an argument long as it is not proved Allah 1): exists, 2): can do it.

232 28/71c: "If Allah were to make the night perpetual over you to the Day of Judgment, what god is there other than Allah, who can give you enlightenment?" Perhaps Yahweh?

233 28/71d "Will ye (non-Muslims*) not hearken?". Not as long as nothing is proved, and there only is a book full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. based only on the word of a man believing in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), deceit ("War is deceit" - and "everything" is jihad/holy war), and the breaking of words/promises/oaths according to the Quran itself - a man liking power and riches for bribes - - - and women. In all other aspects of life the sure way to be cheated, if blind belief. In reality religion is no exception - the most sure way to be cheated, is not to use your other knowledge and your brain - the second greatest gift a possible god gave you after life itself - and evaluate religions and claims and sort out the made up ones. The stronger a preacher asks for blind belief from you, the more likely it is that this is all he has to offer you.

234 28/72a: "If Allah were to - - -". See 14/19d above.

235 28/72b: Similar to 28/71b above.

236 28/72c: Similar to 28/71c above.

237 28/72d: Similar to 28/71d above.

238 28/73a: "It is out of His (Allah's*) Mercy that He has made for you Night and Day - - -". Claims as empty of value as 28/71a+b+c+d until it is proved it really is Allah who does it.

239 28/73b: "- - - His (Allah's*) Mercy - - -". See 1/1a above.

240 28/73c: "The Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

241 28/74a: "That Day He (Allah*) will call on them (non-Muslims*) - - -". Often claimed, never documented. Also see 28/71c above.

242 28/74b: "He (Allah*) will say - - -". Only if he exists and the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth on this point.

243 28/74c: "- - - (Allah's*) 'partners' - - -". In the Quran this expression means false gods.

244 28/74d: "- - - (Allah's*) 'partners' - - -". For believers in other religions, Allah is a false and made up god, and their god(s) is/are not partner(s) of Allah. But by his choice of words, Muhammad makes it look like Allah is the general god according to all humans, but that they have additional gods. Wrong. Also see 25/18a above.

245 28/75a: "And from each people We (Allah*) shall draw a witness - - -". What for if Allah is omniscient?

246 28/75b: "And from each people We (Allah*) shall draw a witness - - -". According to Muslim scholars here are meant the prophets claimed by Islam sent to every people and nation in the world throughout all times. There never have been found any kind of traces from such claimed Muslim prophets anywhere, older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his preaching - neither by science, nor by Islam.

247 28/75c: "- - - and We (Allah*) shall say: 'Produce your (human's*) Proof - - -". What for if Allah is omniscient? One more point: Muhammad frequently demands proofs from everybody else, but never proves anything of any consequence himself.

248 28/75d: "- - - 'Produce your (human's*) Proof - - -". Muhammad's weight laying on and demand for proofs from others, shows that proofs are valuable - but he never was able to prove even one inch of the essential points in his own, new religion.

249 28/75e: “- - - then they (the non-Muslims*) shall know that the Truth is in Allah (alone) - - -”. That is to be hoped that if Allah is a god. But judging from the Quran, at most in him is partly the truth.

250 28/75f: "- - - Truth - - -". See 2/2b and 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

251 28/75g: "- - - and the (lies) which they invented will leave them in the lurch". This will be the case also for Muslims if Allah is a made up god - and the fact that no god would ever be involved in a book with so many errors, etc. like the Quran, may indicate something ominous.

252 28/76a: "Qarun was doubtless of the people of Moses - - -". There is good reason for doubt about this, partly because no such person is mentioned in the Bible, and partly because so much is wrong in the Quran, that it is wise to doubt what is not really proved - only of mistaken facts there may be 2ooo.

253 28/76b: "- - - doubtless - - -". See 2/2b above.

254 28/76c: "Qarun was doubtless of the people of Moses - - -". This story with Qarun as one of Moses' men is meaningless. Except for his youth in Egypt (where the Jews were slaves and consequently very poor), he was a nomad in Sinai/Midian all his life, both according to the Quran and to the Bible. Qarun may have been a Jew, but not one of Moses' close people. But as for being a Jew: The Jews were poor slaves, and who has heard about so rich a poor slave? Strong contradiction to a slave's reality.

255 28/76d "- - - Moses - - -". A historical anomaly (the same is Qarun if he is not made up).

256 28/76-82: The story about Qarun is not from the Bible (there is a story about a rich man in the Bible, but it is very different and not connected to Moses). Also remember that in the Quran not good people either changes and become good Muslims, or they are punished like here - both endings are good for the moral of the believing Muslims, whether the endings are true or not. And by the way: From where did Muhammad get his story? - as the Quran is not from any god with all its errors, and it is not in the Bible, the only possible sources are legends, fairy tales and fantasy. Also apocryphal - made up - scriptures may be a possible source, but hardly for a story like this. (Some Muslims claim Qarun is Korah in the Bible (Num. 16/1-35), but about the only similarity is that also Korah was swallowed by the earth).

257 28/77a: "- - - the (wealth) which Allah has bestowed on thee (Muslim*) - - -". Everything you own, is a gift from Allah, not a result of your own toil or stealing/robbery.

258 28/77b: "- - - seek not (occasions for) mischief in the land - - -". See 28/77c just below.

259 28/77c: "- - - Allah loves not those who do mischief". The behavior of Muslim warriors, assassins, terrorists and others through the times - is that mischief? If not: What kind of religion and what kind of god is this? And if it is: What then about Muslim warriors, assassins, terrorists and others through the times in the possible next life?

260 28/78a: "He (Qarun*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

261 28/78b: "He (Qarun*) said: 'This has been given - - -". How could this be reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" long time before, if predestination is not 100%? And then free will for man is impossible to arrange even for gods - in spite of the Quran's claims.

262 28/78c: "- - - Allah had destroyed, before him (Qarun - at the time of Moses*), (whole) generations". If you think Yahweh was a big killer in OT, Allah is a much more active and bigger one according to the Quran - and if you say like Muslims wrongly do, that Yahweh and Allah are the same god, Allah has done all Yahweh's killings + all the other ones. A good and mild and benevolent god?

263 28/78d: "- - - superior to him (Qarun*) in strength and greater in the amount (of riches) - - -". You fond sentences like this here and there in the Quran. It is meant to magnify Allah and his power - - - but why did Muhammad need to magnify a claimed omnipotent and omniscient god and his power?

264 28/78e: "But the wicked are not called (immediately) to account for their sins". This is the standard explanation - in different words - you meet many places in the Quran for why bad people often live a better life than good Muslims, and for why bad people are not punished at once.

265 28/78f: "- - - Sin - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exists.

266 28/79a: "- - - he (Qarun*) went forth - - -". A historical anomaly.

267 28/79b: "Said (non-Muslims of Moses (!)*): 'Oh that we had the like - - -". How could this be reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" long time before, if predestination is not 100%? And then free will for man is impossible to arrange even for gods - in spite of the Quran's claims.

268 28/79c: "- - - those whose aim is the Life of this World - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims - as you understand there were non-Muslims among the Jews of Moses, too.

269 28/80a: "- - - those who had been granted (true) knowledge - - -". Muslims - Muhammad claimed that the book Muhammad "really" had got, was a copy of the claimed "Mother Book" in Heaven - the same from which the Quran is claimed copied, and thus the believers among Moses' Jews in reality were Muslims. Believe it if you are able to. And PS: According to the Bible Moses got no book from Yahweh: He got the 10 Commandments in writing (2. Mos. 24/12) + he verbally got the Law. The law he later wrote down (2. Mos. 24/4)- this sometimes was called "The Book of Covenance" - and they centuries later were incorporated in what got the name "The Books of Moses". This partly according to the Bible and partly according to science.)

270 28/80b: "- - - (true) - - -". See 2/2b above.

271 28/80c: "- - - knowledge - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it normally refers to knowledge about the Quran and Islam and related subjects - "Islamic knowledge". All other knowledge was "foreign knowledge" and disregarded by the clergy and the scholars. The sometimes strife and sometimes "war" between the ones who worked for secular sciences and Islam was finally won(?) by Islam in 1095 AD by the book "The Incoherence of the Philosophers" by "the greatest Muslim after Muhammad", al-Ghazali. (In the far west it lasted ca. 100 more years).

272 28/80d: "The reward of Allah (in the Hereafter) is best - - -". If Allah exists, and if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth on this point.

273 28/80e: "- - - those who believe - - -". Muslims.

274 28/80f: "- - - those who work righteousness - - -". Muslims (but is this a correct description of all even fanatically believing Muslims?).

275 28/80g: "- - - righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is relative to the book's own partly immoral moral code and hardly existing empathy.

276 28/80h: "- - - none shall retain - - -". If the Quran tells the truth and only the truth.

277 28/80i: "- - - steadfastly persevere - - -". An expression non-Muslims should never forget is impressed and impressed on Muslims.

278 28/80j: "- - - (good) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is relative to the book's own partly immoral moral code and hardly existing empathy.

279 28//81: It is told other places in the Quran that also Quran's whole family, included the children, was killed, even though there nowhere is said that they were guilty of anything. A fair god?

280 28/81-82: Punishment. See 3/77b above.

281 28/82a: "(Many of Moses' Jews said): It is indeed Allah who - - -". You are permitted to believe Moses' Jews praised Allah, if you are able to believe so.

282 28/82b: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

283 28/82c: "It indeed is Allah Who enlarges the provision or restricts it - - -". This is the Quran's standard explanation for why non-Muslims and bad Muslims often have a better life than good Muslims: Allah in his unfathomable wisdom has decided it like this - the predestination again. But sooth yourself; you will come out best in the next life. Nothing of this is ever proved, but that does not matter, as long as people believe it. And as this was Muhammad's standard explanation, it was - and is - nice to have it "confirmed" by others like her (and some other places).

284 28/82d: "- - - His (Allah's*) servants - - -". In the Quran this sometimes means his claimed prophets or messengers and sometimes (good) Muslims generally speaking.

285 28/82e: "Had it not been that Allah was gracious to us (humans*) - - -". A claim in the same class as "If Allah wanted too - - -". See 14/19d above.

286 28/82f: "- - - gracious - - -". See 2/2b above - and for that case 1/1a above.

287 28/82g: “Those who reject Allah - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

288 28/82h: “Those who reject Allah will assuredly never prosper”. As for a possible next life discussion really is impossible - we know nothing, and can know nothing. Some will say they know, but they will be very wrong - what they do, believes strongly. Knowledge is not possible without solid proved facts, and the only real fact in Islam is that one single man told stories he either refused to or was unable to document - either because a god did not want to (with illogical and/or psychologically wrong excuses) or was unable to, or because a god did not exist. There are lots of words - but words are cheap. There are lots of statements - but statements hanging in thin air without proofs are as cheap. There are lots and lots of “signs” - but a few are downright wrong, and the rest are completely valueless as proofs for Allah, as they in reality are just unproved claims or statements hanging in the air and only proves that words are cheap - they are statements that any priest in any religion can say about his god or gods, as long as he does not have to produce real proofs - - - like Muhammad steadfastly or from sheer necessity did not produce. There even are verses telling they prove Allah. But not one single of them proves anything about him - they are as valueless as the “signs” and for the same reasons - and a few even are plainly wrong. Especially we should mention all the natural phenomena which the Quran says are signs indicating or proving Allah, but without one single time proving that it really is Allah who makes the phenomena, and thus the only thing they prove, is that Islam never has been able to produce a single real proof, for any priest in any religion can say exactly the same cheap words about natural phenomena and his god(s). Which further proves that Islam has had to rely on cheap words to influence their congregations and others. One can speculate about why.

*But when it comes to prosperity in this life, it is clear that the Quran is completely wrong. And it is likely to stay that way, as many Muslim countries forces half their adult population not to work or restricts their work, and the culture is adverse to non-religious knowledge (“foreign knowledge”) and to real or critical thinking - which among other effects means that all the Muslim world has fewer new patents a year, than the single state of California - and the difference is even worse if one looks at patents of knife-edge technique or technology. This among other reasons will forever keep Muslim states in second-class economy, if they do not have natural resources like oil to sell. Or if they do not become strong enough to exploit or tax others.

And then remains a central question: What is the real truth if the Quran is a made up book - not to mention if it in reality is from the dark forces? (Too many facts for comfort may indicate these two possibilities.)

289 28//82i: "- - - assuredly - - -". See 2/2b above.

290 28/83a: "That Home of the Hereafter We (Allah*) shall give to those who intend not high-handedness nor mischief on earth - - -". The behavior of Muslim warriors, assassins, terrorists and others through the times - is that mischief? If not: What kind of religion and what kind of god is this? And if it mischief: What then about Muslim warriors, assassins, terrorists and others through the times, in the possible next life?

291 28/83b: "- - - those who intend not high-handedness nor mischief on earth - - -". Muslims.

292 28/83c: "- - - mischief - - -". According to the Quran there is a lot of mischief done on Earth, which is not mischief, but laudable deeds, when done by Muslims - and especially so if it is done in the name of their claimed good and benevolent god.

293 28/83d: "- - - the End - - -". The Day of Doom or Hell/Heaven.

294 28/83e: "- - - the End is (best) for the righteous". If Allah exists and is a god. And if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth.

295 28/83f: "- - - the righteous". Muslims.

296 28/83g: "- - - righteous". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is relative to the book's own partly immoral moral code and hardly existing empathy.

297 28/84a: “If any does good, the reward to him is better than his deed - - -". If the Quran tells the truth.

298 28/84b: “If any does good, the reward to him is better than his deed; but if any does evil, the doers of evil are only punished (to the extent) of their deeds.” It is not too difficult to reach Paradise for Muslims: Merits for good deeds are multiplied, and by a factor of up to 10 according to the Quran, whereas bad deeds only are valued once. And if you anyhow are on minus you can always do some good deeds like lying, stealing or murdering or waging war/terrorism for the religion and get lots of merit from the benevolent Allah

299 28/84c: “If any does good, the reward to him is better than his deed; but if any does evil, the doers of evil are only punished (to the extent) of their deeds.” Beware that your deeds counts more and the goodness and forgiving from the god is less central in the Quran than in NT.

300 28/84d: "- - - good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is relative to the book's own partly immoral moral code and hardly existing empathy.

301 28/84e: “- - - the doers of evil are only punished (to the extent) of their deeds”. Flatly wrong. There is an abyss of injustice between what sins most sinners have committed, and the sadistic punishment they get in Hell.

302 28/84f: "- - - doers of evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is relative to the book's own partly immoral moral code and hardly existing empathy.

303 28/85a: "Verily - - -". But there is no reliable verity in the Quran, unless it is proved - too many mistakes, etc.

304 28/85b: "- - - He (Allah*) Who ordained the Quran for thee (people*) - - -". No god ever was involved in - or ordained - a book of a quality like the Quran.

305 28/85c: "- - - He (Allah*) Who ordained the Quran for thee (people*), will bring thee back to the Place of Return". If he exists - and if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth.

306 28/85d: (YA3416): “- - - the Place of Return.” Does this mean Mecca or Paradise? Nobody knows. The claimed clear and not to be misunderstood, but easy to understand, language in the Quran once more. According to Islam the claimed clear language in the Quran is a proof for that the book is made by a god - but what then does the reality about the language there prove?

307 28/85e: "My Lord (Allah*) knows best who it is that brings true guidance (Muhammad/good Muslims*), and who (non-Muslims*/bad Muslims*) is in manifest error". See 2/233h above.

308 28/85f: "My Lord (Allah*) knows best who it is that brings true guidance (Muhammad/good Muslims*), and who (non-Muslims*/bad Muslims*) is in manifest error". Once more back to the old fact: Only if he exists and in addition is something supernatural - white or dark.

309 28/85g: "- - - true guidance (= based on the Quran*) - - -". There is not much true guidance in a book full of mistakes. And there is not much true religious guidance in a book so full of mistakes, etc. that it proves that no god has been involved in it.

310 28/85h: "- - - manifest error". See 2/2b above.

311 28/85i: "- - - error - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this one except in physical meaning, it is meant in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

312 28/86a: "And thou (Muhammad/Muslims*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

313 28/86b: "And thou (Muhammad/Muslims*) hadst not expected that the Book (the Quran*) would be sent to thee except as a Mercy from thy Lord (Allah*) - - -". No book like the Quran is sent from a god - or revered by him in his "home" - too many mistakes, etc.

314 28/86c: “- - - lend not thou support in any way to those who reject (Allah’s Message).” As clear an order as 6/68a+c above.

315 28/86d: "- - - those who reject (Allah's Message)". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

316 28/86e: "- - - (Allah's Message) (the Quran*)". No god ever sent a message with so many errors like in the Quran. It is not from a god.

317 28/86f If the claimed "Mother Book" of the Quran is written before things happen, like Islam claims - may be existed since eternity - a story only can be correct if there is 100% predestination. If even 99% predestination, the laws of chaos would in relatively short time change the story/reality. See heading and 28/4c.

318 28/87a: "- - - let nothing keep you (Muhammad/Muslims*) back from the Signs of Allah after they have been revealed to thee - - -". See 28/87b just below: As there are no reliable signs of Allah anywhere, they also never are revealed.

319 28/87b: "- - - Signs of Allah - - -". There is not on single reliable sign which proves Allah. It there had existed one, Islam had written it with letters of fire everywhere.

320 28/87c: "- - - and invite (men (women are of little essence in Islam*)) to thy (Muslim's*) Lord (Allah*) - - -". Procelyting is every Muslim's duty.

321 28/87d: "- - - be not of the company of those who join gods with Allah". A clear order.

322 28/87d: "- - - those who joins gods with Allah". See 25/18a above.

323 28/87e: "- - - those who joins gods with Allah". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

324 28/88a: "And call not, besides Allah, on another god". See 25/18a above.

325 28/88b: "There is no god but He (Allah)". See f.x. 2/255a, 6/106b or 28/70a above.

326 28/88c: "To Him (Allah*) belongs the Command - - -". Similar often claimed in the Quran, but never proved anywhere.

327 28/88d: "To Him (Allah*) belongs the Command - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says the High Commander is Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

328 28/88e: "- - - to Him (Allah*) will ye (all) be brought back (on the Day of Doom*)". Often claimed, but true only if Allah exists, is a major god, and the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth on this point.

329 28/88f: "- - - to Him (Allah*) will ye (all) be brought back (on the Day of Doom*)". Contradicted by the Bible, which says you will be brought back to Yahweh that day, not to Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

Surah 28: Sub-total: 329 + 12.353 = 12.682 comments.

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