1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 23 -- Al-Mu'minum (The Believers)

Revelation: Mecca, 621-622 AD

(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)


 

The quotes and comments

001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 23/1a: "- - - the Believers - - -". Muslims, Islam.

003 23/1b: (YA2865): “The Believers must (eventually) win through - - -.” It may be worth mentioning that communism once said the same - their system was superior and had to win in the long run. The Nazi said the same - better system and better quality humans. Also the South States said the same - they were better quality and better warriors than the "merchants" in the North States.

004 23/1C: (YA2865): “The Believers must (eventually) win through - - -.” Or perhaps “- - - obtain salvation from sorrow and all evil.” The Arab word “aflaha” can give at least 2 meanings. Clear language?

##005 23/1d: (A23/11): “- - - a Quranic allusion to the fact that people often reject a new ethical proposition on no better grounds than that it conflicts with their “inherited” habits of thoughts and ways of life. Indirectly, this allusion implies a condemnation of all blind "taqlid", i. e. an unthinking acceptance of religious doctrines or assertions which are not unequivocally supported by divine revelations, the explicit teachings of a prophet, or the evidence of the unprejudiced reason”.

But the book skips the fact that this also goes for Muslims, especially as the Quran with all its errors is no revelation from any god: If they are strongly indoctrinated, they may react strongly to arguments and facts they do not like – and without thinking over – or being mentally able to think over – even true facts.

The book here has tailor-made a definition to fit Islam. It has forgotten (?) that for one thing that reason is unable to find the right answer without full and correct information – and the Quran is full of mistakes - that claims about divine revelations are 15 to the dozen in some religious circles and invalid as proofs without documentation (something Muhammad and Allah were unable to produce) – and that the same goes for any self proclaimed prophet, and especially so if his teachings are very much wanting and he himself a questionable person (like the real Muhammad was). Not to mention "the evidence of the unprejudiced reason" - a meaningless expression in a culture where unprejudiced reason does not exist. This expression in reality in Islam is a claim for "belief on basis of blind belief". But definitions like this frequently are used in Islam and many Muslims really believe this is ok. logic - - - which make straight thinking difficult for them.

006 23/2a: "Those who humble themselves in their prayers - - -". Muslims.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not, many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

007 23/2b: "- - - prayers - - -". If it is true what the Quran clearly states many places, that Allah predestines absolutely everything in life according to his Plan which nobody and nothing can change - and predestines it years and decades and more in advance, what is then the meaning and benefit from prayers in Islam - or for that case pilgrimage? - it can change nothing anyhow.

008 23/3: "(Those) Who avoid vain talk - - -". In the Quran "vain talk" mostly means any debate that can give you information which makes you doubt Muhammad - a not unusual point of view in religion, and especially in fringe or extreme sects. It is not the truth which is essential, but not to doubt the sect or religion.

009 23/4: "- - - active in deeds of charity". The Quran's standpoint when it comes to charity is one of its (too few) positive sides. This aspect is weakened, though, by 2 facts: One is that the reason for charity mainly is not empathy or sympathy with the ones who need help, but the wish to gain points in Heaven. The other is that you get the same points from Allah if you help your wife or son, as when you help others - and then why help others?

#010 23/5+6a: “(Those Muslims are good*) Who abstains from sex, Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom your right hand possess - for (in their case) they are free from blame”. Catch a girl and make her your captive - and you are free from any blame if you rape her - or gang-rape her - or make more women your captives and rape them, too - or exchange girls with your mates every half hour or day or week. A slave is a slave - and spoils of war you take “just and good”, according to the Quran and Islam. We sometimes wonder if this is the reason for so much mass rape sometimes when Muslims wage war - Darfur and Bangladesh are/were examples to remember. Forget that the women are humans - take them captive and you are free to rape them without any blame. Really a good religion. And we do not mention the word empathy - it is something you hardly find in the Quran. Probably one of the most rotten points in any somewhat civilized pretended moral code.

But it brought Muhammad cheap highwaymen and later cheap warriors.

011 23/5+6b: “(Those Muslims are good*) Who abstains from sex, Except with those joined to hem in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom your right hand possess - for (in their case) they are free from blame (if they rape them)”. Part of the basis for the sharia laws.

012 23/5+6c: "- - - except - - - (the captives) whom their right hand possess - for (in their case) they (Muslim men/warriors*) are free from blame (if they rape the women or girls*) - - -". This is not the most rotten (im)moral rule and sharia law in Islam, but one of them.

####013 23/5+6d: "- - - except - - - (the captives) whom their right hand possess - for (in their case) they (Muslim men/warriors*) are free from blame (if they rape the women or girls*) - - -".

014 23/6a: "- - -(those*) whom your right hand possess - - -". An old Arab - and Muslim - expression for slaves - your captives were your slaves. You were - and are - free to f.x. rape them. One more of the 100+% sure proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of prophets (even if we omit the fact that Muhammad was no real prophet - he only "borrowed" that impressive title (he did not have the gift of making prophesies "to see the unseen".)

015 23/6b: “(Good Muslims*) abstain from sex except with those joined to them in marriage bonds, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess (= slave women*) – for (in their case) they are free from blame - - -:” To rape captive women and slave women was/is completely ok (with one exception; it was prohibited if they were pregnant – but most likely not if they were pregnant with your child). Take a woman captive in a “holy” war – and anything was named “holy war” – jihad - as long as the victims were non-Muslims, not to mention if they were Pagans – and you could freely rape her with Allah’s blessing, because it was “good and lawful”. And even slave raids theoretically could be defined as holy war - “jihad” - as the victims were non-Muslims, and all the 4 Islamic law schools accepted the fact that the "enemies" were non-Muslims as "bona fide" reason for declaring jihad. It was – and is (rape is very common in armed conflicts where Muslims are involved) – a nice life for the warriors. But it tells something about both Islam and some Muslims - something ugly.

#016 23/7: "But those whose desires exceed those limits (see verses 5 and 6*) are transgressors - - -". Which means that you do not transgress Allah's laws if you rape a captive female child or a woman. One more proof for that Allah and Yahweh is not the same god: NT says "Do against others like you want others do against you". Very few Muslim men like to be raped, but rape of girls and women are ok, especially if it is done in the name of Allah in a Jihad - and "every" conflict is a Jihad (holy war). The fact is that this permission for raping, stealing, lying, killing, etc., had been less morally distasteful of it was an open rule, and not one connected to serving the god. Honestly what kind of animal is this claimed god?

017 23/7-11: These (good Muslims) go to Paradise - - - if the Quran is from a god and in addition tells the truth on this point. Also see 10/9f above.

018 23/8a: "Those who faithfully observe their trusts and their covenants - - -". Muslims.

##019 23/8b: "- - - covenants - - -". A covenant is an agreement between minimum 2 parts, who both confirm that they agree to something. In Islam there was never proved that Allah agreed to anything - Muhammad was never able to prove even his existence, let alone his agreement to a covenant. If Allah - existing or not existing - has not agreed to a covenant, it is not a covenant. Muslims may have promised Allah this and this, but without acceptance from Allah to the "deal", it just were promises to Allah, not a covenant with Allah.

020 23/9a: "- - - those who strictly guard their prayers - - -". Muslims.

As for the value of prayers in Islam, also see 62/9c. And if you combine 62/9c with 67/9c - a strong one - you get something thought-provoking. (And relevant here: Muslims often are thought that a question or problem can have 2 or more true and correct solutions - Islam is forced to teach this, because if not, many of the mistakes and contradictions in the Quran become too obvious. But this ONLY is true if parallel true solutions are possible. In cases where 2 or more possible solutions are mutually excluding each other, maximum 1 of the mutually excluding ones can be true. It should be a bit thought provoking for Muslims, that just this "small" difference in theoretical thinking and teaching, was one of the reasons (there were several of course) for why Europe and the West exploded into the Technical Revolution, while the Muslim area stagnated). Two star examples are: 1) Full predestination is not possible even for an omnipotent god to combine with even the smallest piece of free will for man - the two are mutually excluding. The same for full and unchangeable predestination long time before, combined with any claimed effect of prayers - the two are mutually excluding each other.)

##021 23/9b: "- - - those who strictly guard their prayers - - -". The Quran has a central dogma which is confirmed many places in the Quran and in Hadiths: Allah predestines everything in this world - everything. This he does long time before it happens - years and decades and even more; 5 months before you are even born h according to Hadiths f.x. decides when you are going to die and whether you are going to end in Heaven or Hell. And his predestinations he makes according to his unchangeable Plan - a Plan nobody and nothing can change. This dogma was fine for Muhammad when he wanted to recruit warriors, which he needed lots and lots of after Islam was changed from a peaceful religion to a religion of war in 622 - 624 AD (Allah changed his mind about the value of peace and humanity contra war and power and terror and apartheid and stolen riches and slaves?)

But this is incompatible with at least 2 other central dogmas in the religion: Free will for man and prayers:

The debated one is the dogma of free will for man. If Allah predestines everything, free will for man is an illusion, and humans are just puppets-on-a-string playing Allah's theater. But if that is the case, how can Allah punish sinners who have been forced by him to do what they did? - or for that case reward "good" persons who also just were playing their forced role? Muhammad needed the dogma of free will for man to be able to claim Allah was a just and good god who rewarded and punished justly. He needed that dogma and he launched it and he used it - - - but he never was able to explain how it could possibly be combined with the dogma about full predestination. And Islam has never been able to explain it - even today it is unexplained and unexplainable for Muslims. We quote A6/141 (English 2008 edition 6/143,comment to verse 6/149): “In other words, the real relationship between Allah’s knowledge of the future (and, therefore, the ineluctably of what is to happen in the future) on one side, and man’s free will, on the other – two propositions which, on the face of it, seem to contradict one another – is beyond man’s comprehension; but since both are postulated by Allah, both must be true.

Simply the ultimate pinnacle of clear speech. And the ultimate victory not for blind faith, but for blind faith based on naivety and intellectual unconsciousness. IT ALSO IS THE ULTIMATE DEFEAT FOR THE CLAIM THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO COMBINE THE CLAIM THAT MAN HAS FREE WILL WITH THE CLAIM THAT ALLAH DECIDES EVERY DETAIL OF YOUR LIFE. (Some Muslims try to "explain it with that the Quran just means partly free will, but that is just a joke. For one thing the Quran is very clear when it several places tells that Allah predestines everything, and then there is no room left for any even partly free will for man. And for another: Even partly free will for man will make reliable precognition and reliable predestination impossible for Allah - the laws of chaos sees to that. Full predestination for Allah is impossible even for gods to combine with even partly free will for man. In the immaterial realms of life there are things impossible even for omnipotent gods.

Then there is the other conundrum: Full predestination and prayers. What is the mission of prayers - and for that case pilgrimage (hajj) and good deeds - if everything is predestined long before? If everything is predestined years and decades before, and according to a Plan nobody and nothing can change, also prayers can change nothing and have no value or meaning, and just are wasted time and effort.

Worse: If it is Allah who has predestined that you have to make a prayer and pray for so and so, what meaning and value does it then have for Allah, when he knows that your prayer just is a repetition of what he decided you should pray for and what to say in your prayer? Such a "prayer" - or "good deed" or "hajj" - tells nothing about you, and has little value for any sentient being, included for a god.

Also read about "regular prayers" - f.x. 22/78j.

022 23/10: "These (Muslims*) will be the heirs - - -". Here of Paradise.

023 23/10-11: "These (Muslims*) will be the heirs, who will inherit Paradise - - -". Not according to Yahweh's rules for entering Paradise.

024 23/11a: "(Muslims*) will inherit Paradise - - -". If Allah exists and is a god, and if the Quran tells the full and only truth.

025 23/11b: "- - - they (Muslims*) will dwell therein (Paradise*) (for ever)". But 11/108c may indicate that it may not be forever.

026 23/12: “Man We (Allah*) did create from a quintessence (of clay)”. We have never understood what a quintessence of clay is, but it is absolutely sure it is wrong: For one thing man was not created - according to science he developed from earlier primates. For another thing - even if one had accepted Islam’s statement that man is created, Adam in no way could have been created in many ways - see 6/2. And for a third thing: Man is not created from only one or a few minerals like in clay. Besides: This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”. (Also see verse 6/2b in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 29 other verses. But minimum 11 contradictions.) 

027 23/13: “Then We (Allah’) placed him (the future baby*) as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest - - -“. Wrong. Muhammad believed sperm was a kind of seed that could grow to become a human being (and if the man climaxed first, it became a boy, whereas if the woman climaxed first it became a girl, according to him in Hadiths). The reality is that the sperm is not planted in a woman, but unifies with an egg cell and the resulting zygote then starts growing. Also see 6/2b above and 53/45-46 below.

*028 23/14a: “Then We (Allah*) made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood - - -”. Wrong. And doubly wrong:

The sperm is not made into a clot of congealed blood.

Sperm (1 cell from it) combines with an egg cell and becomes a zygote.

Muhammad did not know better, as this was what one believed in Arabia at his time - without a microscope it is impossible to see exactly what happens. But a god had known. There is a saying that “the taste is the proof of the cake”, and this is tasty. Muhammad and the Quran and Islam and Muslims had and have very busy time to find “explanations” - some of them rather unlikely - to “explain” why Allah/Muhammad did not produce one single real proof for that a supernatural being was involved, even though many friends and as many foes asked sincerely for it. But Allah did not even have to make the slightest miracle to prove his existence. All he had to do was to tell the truth in all these cases - like this one - where the Quran now are proved to be wrong. If Allah really did exist, and if he really was/is omniscient - why then did he make up so many wrongs, when correct information had proved something?

As it is, all scientific "facts" in the Quran is in accordance with what was believed to be the truth in Arabia at that time (much of it actually was Greek or Persian "knowledge".)

A disturbing fact is that even today Muslim scholars tries to tell tat in one step of development the fetus is a clot of congealed blood(!!!). F. x. YA2872.

Like it is now, all these facts are incredibly strong proofs for that there was no omniscient god involved in creating the Quran - and what then about Islam? - is it a made up, false religion? Not to mention: What will then in case happen in a possible next life to all humans - Muslims - who have had their chances to look for a real religion (if such one exists) blocked by Islam?

*029 23/14b: “- - - then We (Allah*) made a (fetus) lump; We made of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh”. Wrong - 100% wrong: Flesh is made first, and then bones develop inside the flesh of the fetus. It must be remarked that Muhammad’s tale about how a baby is made, is in accordance with old Greek medical beliefs – f. ex. the famous doctor Galen and Aristotle – which was known in the Middle East at the time of Muhammad (facts Muslim scholars know very well, but never mention.) Any god had known better. Then who made the Quran?

030 23/14c: "- - - Allah, the best to create!" Often claimed, never proved. See f.x. 6/2b, 11/7a and 21/56c above.

031 23/14d: "- - - Allah, the best to create!" Contradicted by the Bible, who thinks Yahweh is the champion, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

032 23/16: "Again (after death*) - - - will ye (people*) be raised up". This is a claim you find in more or less every religion - and if religions are all made up, this may be one of the two rationales behind them; a comfortable soothing against the meaninglessness of a life on Earth without any higher or lasting meaning (the other one is that it may be that it is a cultural glue which makes a group closer knit together, and thus stronger in the fight for survival). Allah has never proved that he has the power of resurrection, but Yahweh has - if the old books tell the truth. (f.x. 1. Kings 17/22, 2. Kings 4/34-35, Mark 5/11, John 11/44, Luke 7/15, Matt. 27/52, Acts 9/40, Acts 20/10, and the Quran 5/110i).

033 23/17a: “And We (Allah*) have made, above you, seven tracts (= seven heavens*) - - -”. Wrong. There are no seven (material) heavens. All the same you find these claims about 7 heavens/firmaments/tracts in 2/29d+e, 17/44a, 23/17a, 23/86a, 41/12a+b, 65/12a, 67/3a+b and 71/15a+b - all together the Quran mentions "heavens" in plural at least 199 times; there is no doubt the Quran means there are 7 heavens (and as the stars are fastened to the lowermost of them - f. x. 67/5a - they have to be material ones - if not the stars could not be fastened to it). In 67/3 you also are told they are places one above the other, which means they of course are built successively higher above the Earth - which also is clear from most places in the Quran where the place of the heavens are indicated. Some modern Muslims try to place the heavens in space, deep space included. But among others 67/3 prohibits this, as "up" and "down" ("one above the other") has no meaning as part of the real space.

By the way: 67/12b also claims there are 7 Earths, and gives their names according to Islam.

034 23/17b; (YA2876): We simply quote: “Thara’iq, tracts, roads, orbits, or paths in the visible heaven. These seven are clearly marked to our eyes (??*), in the immense space that we see around us. We must go to astronomy to form any plausible theories to these motions. But their simplest observation gives us a sublime view of beauty, order, and grandeur in the universe. The assurance given in the next clause, that Allah cares for us and all His Creation, calls out attention to Allah’s goodness, which is further illustrated in the subsequent verses.” A lot of words to avoid explaining anything about the 7 material heavens with the stars fastened to the lowest, which is what the Quran in reality is speaking about. Here things are clear, but is made unclear and wrapped up in verbal wool to tuck away wrongs which the Quran clearly states many places.

035 23/17c: "- - - We (Allah*) are never unmindful of (our) Creation". If he exists - and if he in case has created.

036 23/17d: "- - - (our) (Allah's*) Creation". See 10/7a and 21/56c above.

037 23/18a: "And We (Allah*) send down from the sky - - -". A claim just like from any other relevant god in any other religion. As long as it is not proved Allah really does this, such a claim is worth exactly zero as a proof or indication for Allah - just as much as the similar claim from strong believers in other religions. Also see 11/7a above.

A telling tale here is that the Quran another place tells that Allah breaks the clouds to pieces (to make raindrops). The exactly opposite of what happens when raindrops are formed. The maker of the Quran was not much omniscient - was he a god or a human?

038 23/18b: "- - - We (Allah*) certainly are able to drain it (water*) off (with ease)". Allah or nature? See 11/7a above.

039 23/18c: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.

040 23/19: "- - - We (Allah*) grow for you gardens - - -". See 11/7a above.

041 23/20: “Also a tree springing out of Mount Sinai, which produces oil, and relish for those who use it for food”. Muslim scholars agree on that here it is meant olive trees. But there have been questions – the area around Mt. Sinai is quite dry, and absolutely not known for olive trees.

042 23/21: "- - - We (Allah*) produce (milk) - - -". See 11/7a above.

043 23/23a: "(Further We (Allah*) sent a long line of prophets for your (Muhammad’s*) instruction)". The problem is that Muhammad does not fit in the long line of Jewish prophets. To do that, his teachings, etc. would have had to build on the earlier prophets' teachings and messages from Yahweh, which it to a far too large degree does not do - and Muhammad's claim that the reason is that the Bible is falsified, is proved wrong both by science and by Islam. Besides many of the divergences are so fundamental that they could not have been explained with some falsifications anyhow. Muhammad and his teaching simply differ too much form the old Jewish prophets - he does not fit into that line. To compare f.x. him and Jesus (the last one before Muhammad) hardly is possible.

044 23/23b: "- - - Noah - - -". A historical anomaly.

045 23/23c: "Ye (Noah's people*) have no other god than Him (Allah*)". For one thing the Bible here will claim that Noah's god was Yahweh, and for another see 6/106b above.

046 23/23-28: Noah is from the Bible, but a lot of the details in the Quean about his story are not. From where did Muhammad get these details? - not from a god, as no god made a book with so many mistakes like the Quran, and the only other source about Noah is the Bible - perhaps except legends and fairy tales.

047 23/24a: "The chiefs of the Unbelievers among his (Noah's*) people said - - -". A historical anomaly.

048 23/24b: "The chiefs of the Unbelievers among his (Noah's*) people said: 'He is no more than - - -". How could this end up in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened? One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

Also see 3/154e, 6/149a, 7/34a, and 14/22b above.

049 23/24c: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

050 23/24d: "- - - his (Noah's*) wish is to assert his superiority over you (people*) - - -". This is a very common wish from founders of new sects and religions - f.x. Muhammad was in a similar situation, and he made himself the superior when he gained power. (though just in this case and in some other cases in the Quran from before Muhammad thought he would ever gain much power, it is likely meant as irony: "Hear how stupid their accusations are towards one who just want to teach religion" - and to put himself in line with most of the old Jewish prophets, who most of them had no political or military power.

051 23/24e: "- - - if Allah had wished - - -". This and similar claims you meet many places in the Quran - but for some reason or other Allah never wished (or was able to).

052 23/24f: “- - - if Allah had wished - - - He could have sent down angels (as prophets*) - - -” But for some reasons he either did not wish that, even if that had been far more efficient - or he was not able to (or some human was bluffing?). A NB: Why does the Quran some places tell that Allah cannot prove Islam or Muhammad by sending down angels because that would mean it was the Last Day? Here he tells he could send down if he wanted, and other places he sends them down in the thousands to do battle together with Muslims, or to note down good or bad deeds, or to help. One or a few more would mean nothing for him. Is something a bluff or fast-talk?

053 23/24g: “- - - if Allah had wished - - - He could have sent down angels (as prophets*) - - -”. This is exactly one of the requests Muhammad got from his skeptics - he is using Noah to "show" that earlier Jewish prophets had no angels sent down, too, and thus that this is normal for prophets - and that he himself thus is a normal prophet. Muhammad uses this tactic many times in the Quran.

054 23/24h: “- - - (moreover) we (non-Muslims*) have never heard (anything like) this from our forebears of old!” (Literally: “- - - in connection with (Arab “fi”*) our early forebears!”). There is a distinction in the meaning between "from" and "in connection with".

055 23/24i: “- - - (moreover) we (non-Muslims*) have never heard (anything like) this from our forebears of old!” (A23/11): "(This is*) a Quranic allusion to the fact that people often reject a new ethical position on no better grounds than that it conflicts with their inherited habits of thoughts and ways of life. Indirectly, this allusion implies a condemnation of all blind "taqlid", i.e., an unthinking acceptance of religious doctrines or assertions - - -". The bad fact is that this also goes for Muslims, and even more so as no god revealed a book with so many errors like the Quran.

056 23/25a: "And some said): 'He (Noah') is only a man possessed - - -". See 23/24b above.

057 23/25b: "He (Noah*) is only a man possessed - - -". Muhammad was accused of this, and then it was a psychologically good idea to "show" his followers that this was normal for prophets. But in a way the ones suspecting Muhammad to lack something mentally may be they were right - according to medical science the illness Temporal Lobe Epilepsy (TLE) would explain his claimed experiences very well.

058 23/26a: "(Noah) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

059 23/26b: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) accuse me (Noah*) of falsehood!". Muhammad was accused of this, and then it was a psychologically good idea to "show" his followers that this was normal for prophets. But at least when it comes to Muhammad, his critics may have been right: All the mistaken facts, etc. proves that something was - and is - wrong.

060 23/26c: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) accuse me (Noah*) of falsehood!". See 23/24b above.

061 23/27a: "So We (Allah*)inspired him (Noah*) - - -". There nowhere in the Bible is told that the prophets or others got information or orders from the god by inspiration. But as this was the way Muhammad claimed he got most of his verses, it was good psychology to claim that also the old prophets got their orders from the god this way = Muhammad is a normal prophet. You meet this many places in the Quran.

062 23/27b: "- - - Our (Allah's*) guidance - - -". See 2/2b above.

063 23/27c: "- - - Our (Allah's*) guidance - - -". According to the Bible the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah.

064 23/27d: "- - - and the fountains of the earth gush forth (and make the Big Flood*) - - -". The Quran tells (11/44) that the Ark ended on Mount Al-Judi in Syria (Correction: According to Wikipedia it lies in Anatolia in Turkey). This mountain is 2089 m high. There is no way water in Turkey could be that high unless the flood was universal - it had streamed away to not flooded places in case (a fact Islam knows very well, and all the same tries to explain that the flood only was regional - a clear al-Taqiyya (lawful lie)). But there is no way fountains of the Earth could have gushed forth that much water - not even 10% of it - not even if it was assisted by heavy rain (and there are limits to how much rain the atmosphere can contain and release). And absolutely not without leaving any traces from collapsed enormous chambers or something.

*065 23/27e: (Said by Allah to Noah*)”- - - take thou aboard pairs of every species, male and female - - -”. Impossible. There simply are too many animals + necessary food for any ark or boat or ship to take two of each. Even a modern super tanker fixed up for such a job, had been far too small - and the ark was a wooden boat. See 11/40. And who did the feeding, watering and cleaning for all these animals? And who gathered them and gathered the food for all of them - and how was the food stored so as not to spoil?

Muslims try to tell that most likely Allah meant only the domesticated animals. But that is not what the Quran says. And the Quran is to be understood by the word, if nothing else is said - see 3/7. Besides: Islam tells the Ark stranded on a 2089 m high mountain in Anatolia in Turkey (Mt. Al-Jedi), and in that case there had to be so much water on Earth that all animals had drowned if they were not in the ark.

066 23/27f: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". One of Muhammad's many repulse inducing names for non-Muslims.

067 23/28a: "Praise be to Allah - - -". The Bible disagrees here, and wants it to be Yahweh. More essential: Neither science nor Islam has ever found any trace about Allah older than 610 AD. Noah - if he ever existed - may have lived 4ooo-6ooo BC. (You will find exact years some places - do not believe the rest of what those sources tell you, too. Exact years for Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or anything older in the religions, are bluffs).

068 23/28b: "- - - people who do wrong - - -". One of Muhammad's many repulse inducing names for non-Muslims.

069 23/28c: "- - - do wrong". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

070 23/29: "- - - Thou (here indicated to be Allah*) art the Best to enable (us) to disembark". Once more: According to the Bible the god involved was Yahweh, not Allah.

071 23/30a: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

072 23/30b: "Verily, in this there are signs (for men who understand) - - -". See 13/3j above.

073 23/30c: “- - - signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

074 23/30d: "- - - thus do We (Allah*) try (men)". But why does an omniscient god have to try men? - especially as he according to the Quran predestines everything, and thus knows everything on beforehand?

075 23/32a: "Ye (nobody knows who*) have no other god but Him (Allah*)". See 2/255a and 6/106b above.

076 23/32b: (A23/17): “And We (Allah*) sent them a messenger from among themselves - - -.” Who are “they” and who is the messenger? Islam does not know. Some guess it may be Hud – sometimes mentioned in the Quran, but unknown anywhere else. It may perhaps be Muhammad. Or it may be a vague general description. Clear words?

077 23/33a: "- - - the chiefs of his (Noah's*) people, who disbelieved and denied - - -". See 23/24b above.

078 23/33b: "He (Noah*) is no more than a man like yourself: he eats of that which ye (Noah's contemporaries*) eat, and drinks of what ye drink". This was one of the arguments Muhammad met at home. Here he indicates that this was a normal argument from disbelievers towards prophets (it is not a normal or heavy one in the Bible), and thus that Muhammad is a normal prophet. There is quite n number of similar cases in the Quran.

079 23/34s: "(The chiefs said*) If ye (people at the time of Noah*) obey a man like yourself (a la Muhammad*), behold, it is certain that ye will be lost". This was said by non-Muslims. If the Quran is not made by a god - and no god ever made a book with that many mistakes, contradictions, etc., not to mention revered it in his own Heaven - those non-Muslims may be right.

080 23/34b: "(The chiefs said*) If ye (people at the time of Noah*) obey a man like yourself (a la Muhammad*), behold, it is certain that ye will be lost". See 23/24b above.

081 23/35a: "(The chiefs said to the people of Noah*): 'Does he (Noah*) promise - - -'". See 23/24b above.

082 23/35b: "Does he (the claimed prophet Noah*) promise that when ye (people*) die and ye become dust and bones, ye shall be brought forth (again)?" Remember here that what Muhammad promised and Islam promises, is that Allah shall find all the pieces and juices - all atoms and molecules - you were made by and put everything together again and then wake you up to the claimed next life. The old Arabs knew about a possible waking up of your soul, but this process with putting everything together and waking you up bodily, was a bit hard to swallow - it still is for people knowing some about chemistry, physics, etc. - especially as a life free from the cumbersome body like in NT is a far more attractive alternative for a possible next life. (But in Islam's Paradise most of the pleasures are bodily ones, and then Muhammad needed bodily resurrection - very different form NT where Jesus tells that in Paradise you become like the angels (f. x. Luke 20/36) - the same god and the same Paradise? - impossible.

083 23/36: "(The chiefs said to the people of Noah*): 'far, very far - - -'". See 23/24b above.

084 23/37a: "(The chiefs said to the people of Noah*): 'There is nothing - - -'". See 23/24b above.

085 23/37b: "But we (the people of Noah*) shall never be raised up again!". More or less all religions have some kind of second life. The old pagan Arabs knew this from surrounding religions, but had weak belief about this themselves, and some of them said things like this to Muhammad. Here Muhammad claims the opponents told Noah just the same as Arab opponents told Muhammad - "confirming" that the opposition Muhammad met, was normal for prophets, and thus also that Muhammad was in a normal situation for a normal prophet. But as this was a religious point of view one seldom and few places in the world met, this simply is one more Arabism.

086 23/38a: "(The chiefs said to the people of Noah*): 'He (Noah*) is only a man - - -'". See 23/24b above.

087 23/38b: "He (Noah*) is only a man who invents a lie against Allah, but we (people*) are not the ones to believe in him!". Who - who - in his right mind are able to believe people not believing in Allah, but in other gods, said this (they would not use Allah as a reference if Allah was not their god)? This simply is imbecility.

088 23/38b: "He (Noah*) is only a man who invents a lie against Allah, but we (people*) are not the ones to believe in him!" Exchange "Allah" with "al-Lah" and this is exactly what the people in the old Mecca told Muhammad. Therefore, when Muhammad claimed older prophets had been told the same, his followers could believe Muhammad's situation was normal for prophets and Muhammad a normal prophet.

089 23/39a: "(The prophet (Noah?*)) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

090 23/39b: "(The prophet (Noah*)) said - - -". It is here unclear which prophet. Verse 23/41 shows it is not Noah. Perhaps the claimed prophet Hud. Or perhaps even Muhammad. But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet is a person who:

Have the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.

Makes prophesies that always or at least mostly come true.

Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for a person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not see the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking (nearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying, that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran”; prophesying is a kind of miracle -seeing what has not yet happened). (This last fact also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories). Also see 30/40a and 30/46a, and we also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah according to Hadiths (f. ex. Al-Bukhari) states that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) has knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden and what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet.

Also relevant here is that the original title of the Jewish prophets was not "prophet" but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F. x. 1. Sam. 9/9, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1.Chr.29/29, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side). Muhammad so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen".

***And this is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why.

*091 23/39c: “(The prophet (because of 23/31-32 and 23/41 it is unclear which prophet, perhaps Muhammad but likely someone else*)) said - - -they accuse me of falsehood.” If it was not Muhammad: Similar to Muhammad's situation. Therefore, when Muhammad claimed older prophets had been told the same , his followers could believe Muhammad's situation was normal for prophets and Muhammad a normal prophet.

092 23/40: "In but a little while, they (non-Muslims*) are sure to be sorry!" See 3/77b above.

093 23/41a: “And the Blast overtook them (people some generations after Noah?*) with justice (and killed them*), and we made them as rubbish of dead leafs - - -”. Excellent literature! - either the Quran without remark or explanation has changed from talking about Noah, or Muhammad has mixed up his stories; there was no blast during the Big Flood, neither in the Bible no in the Quran. Most likely here he has switched from one story to another in the middle of the tales. The ones claiming that the Quran is excellent literature, either do not know the Quran, or they know nothing about literature.

PS: Yahweh caused little killing between Noah and Abraham, but Allah seems to have been busy most of the time.

094 23/41b: "- - - people who do wrong!" Muslims.

095 23/41c: "- - - do wrong!" Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

096 23/43: ”No people can hasten their term (time of ending*) nor can they delay it”. Predestination. No matter what they do and how much free will they use – they can do nothing but what is foretold in Allah’s predestination - his Plan. Is there then any free will for man?

097 23/44a: "Then sent We (Allah*) Our messengers in succession - - -". Muhammad claimed that through all times and to all people Allah had sent his prophets. Neither science nor Islam has ever found the slightest traces from such prophets - even though Hadiths claims there have been at least 123ooo of them. When you see what traces the few Jewish prophets left - and Muhammad left even though he was no real prophet (had not the gift/ability to make prophesies) - such a claim does not sound trustworthy.

098 23/44b: "- - - every time there came to a people their messenger, they accused him of falsehood - - -". Not correct according to the Bible - some were accepted. But a convenient way for Muhammad to "explain" away all the disbelievers and all the problems to his followers. (Even the Quran contradicts this - f.x. Solomon was not accused of falsehood, and in the Quran Solomon is a prophet).

##099 23/44c: "- - - so away with a people that will not believe!" Guess if this was and is a good sentence for semi-civilized warriors and terrorists!

100 23/44d: "- - - a people that will not believe!" One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

101 23/44e: "- - - believe - - -". = Believe in Muhammad and his Quran.

102 23/45a: "- - - Moses - - - Aaron - - -". 2 historical anomalies.

103 23/45b: “- - - Our (Allah's*) Signs - - -“. There are no signs in the Quran that clearly come from Allah – see 2/99.

104 23/45c: "- - - manifest". See 2/2b above. But if you say this was from Yahweh, not from Allah, it may be true.

105 23/46: "- - - Pharaoh (here referred to Moses' pharaoh, Ramses II*) and his Chiefs - - -". Historical anomalies.

106 22/47a: "They (Pharaoh Ramses II and his chiefs*) - - -". Historical anomalies.

107 22/47b: "They (Pharaoh Ramses II and his chiefs*) said: 'Shall we believe - - -'". See 23/24b above.

108 23/48: “- - - and they (Pharaoh and his chiefs*) became the ones who were destroyed (drowned*))”. But at least the pharaoh (Ramses II) was not destroyed/drowned. Ramses II did not die by drowning. And we know he died only years after the (possible) exodus in ca 1235 BC - - - if it ever happened..

109 23/49a: “And We (Allah*) gave Moses the Book - - -“. Wrong. Moses never got something even remotely similar to the Quran or the Bible. What he clearly got according to both the Bible and the Quran, was the 10 Commandments. That was all he physically got according to the Bible. But he was told the Laws – later part of the Books of Moses – and wrote them down later himself (sometimes called "the Book of Covenance"). Science tells that what is called The Books of Moses are centuries younger.

110 23/49b: “And We (Allah*) gave Moses the Book - - -“. Contradicted by the Bible, who says the god of Moses was Yahweh, not Allah.

111 23/50a: "And We (here indicated Allah*) made the son of Mary and his mother as a Sign". But according to the Bible and also according to the scientific fact that Allah (or al-Lah) was not believed in Israel at that time, whereas Yahweh was the totally dominant one the among the Jews, involved god was Yahweh.

112 23/50b: "- - - the son of Mary - - -". Jesus. See 5/110a above.

113 23/50c: "- - - high ground - - -". This may or may not refer to the birth of Jesus (which in the Quran is very different from in the Bible). It may also refer to Paradise. This is one of the many, many unclear points in the Quran.

114 23/51a: "O ye messengers (included Muhammad*)!" See 63/5a..

115 23/51b: "O ye messengers (included Muhammad*)! Enjoy (all) things good and pure - - -". Which for Muhammad among other things meant lots of women - we know the name of 36 ones: 11 long time wives, 16 short time wives, 2 concubines, 7 to whom he may be or may be not was married (if he was not married to them, the sex was unlawful according to Islam's rules. As for raping captives we know no number, but at least 2 (Rayhana bint Amr and Safijja bint Huayay). And also supreme power and plenty of riches - when he dised he f.x. had estates in Medina, Khaybar and Fadang - a fact often "forgot" by Muslims claiming he lived a poor man's lif.

116 23/51c: "- - - righteousness - - -". Beware that when words like this are used in the Quran, it is meant relative to the Quran's partly immoral moral code.

117 23/51d: "- - - I (Allah*) am well acquainted with (all) that ye do". Allah knows everything - and predestines everything. If he exists and is a god.

118 23/52a: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

119 23/52b: "- - - verily, this Brotherhood of yours (prophets'*) is a single Brotherhood - - -". Wrong. One may say that the prophets from the Bible, included Jesus and perhaps his disciples and Paul belonged to a brotherhood - clearly the same god, clearly the same teaching - except that "the New Covenant" represented more mildness from Yahweh - the words and teachings and foretelling corresponded to each other, etc., all in the same line of traditions. Muhammad was totally outside that line on every essential point - different god, different teaching, fundamentally different religion, different traditions, outside the foretelling of the older prophets (not only himself, but also what he said and told), very different code of moral, no empathy - even a very different paradise.

In spite of Muhammad's repeated claims: He did not belong in the same line of prophets as the biblical ones. No matter whether he is claimed to be a real or a false prophet, his teachings and his god are too different from that of the biblical prophets - he is not in that line of prophets. It is not a single brotherhood.

120 23/52c: "- - - I (Allah*) am your (the prophets'*) Lord and Cherisher - - -". Wrong - see 23/52b just above - unless Islam brings solid proofs for their undocumented - like always - claim. He may have been Muhammad’s god or made up god, but he was not the god of the biblical prophets, included Jesus - too much is different in the teachings and the traditions. (compare f.x. the teachings of Jesus and Muhammad yourself - they are so different that they are not even at the same planet.

121 23/52d: "- - - fear Me (Allah*) - - -". No reason for that unless he exists.

122 23/53a: "But people have cut of their affair (of unity) - - - into sects - - -". The Quran claims that in the really old times everybody were Muslims, but that people then split off (in spite of how dangerous it was and is to leave Islam) and became pagans, Jews, Christians, etc. The claim is wrong, as neither science nor Islam has found even the smallest trace of a religion similar to Islam anywhere or anytime before 610 AD.

123 23/53b: "But people have cut of their affair (of unity) - - - into sects - - -". We may mention that according to our information there have been some 3ooo Muslim sects through the times, including the now existing ones like shia, sunni, amaddiyya, wahhabism, to mention some of the biggest existing ones. A number of those sects were chocked in blood - no compulsion in religion?

124 23/53c: "- - - each party (sect*) rejoices in that which is with itself". There hardly is any big religion where this is more obvious than in Islam.

125 23/53d: "- - - each party (sect*) rejoices in that which is with itself" = each sect highlights what it means is correct understanding of the religion, and each sect means only they are right. In a war religion this leads to strife, terror and murder - just see the situation between f.x. Shi’a and Sunni Muslims, not to mention between them and the Ammaddiyya.

126 23/54a: “But leave them (“infidels”*) in their confused ignorance for a time”. This was in 621 or 622 AD, shortly before his – Muhammad’s – flight to Medina. When he started to become military strong enough, it was finish with leaving them alone (already then there were small tendencies to the emergence of sects - in one case Muhammad f. x. had his warriors destroy a competing mosque) – and there came a lot of contradictions and abrogations in the teachings and in the religion – from peace to inhumanity and war. This verse is contradicted and often “killed” (abrogated) by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

127 23/54b: "- - - ignorance - - -". As for words related to knowledge, see 2683a below.

128 23/55-56a: (A23/32): “Do they (people*) think that because We have granted them abundance in wealth and sons, We would hasten them on in every good?” Another possible translation of the Arab text: “- - - We (but want to) make them vie with one another in doing (what they consider) good works?” 2 very different meanings from one and the same clear (?) Arab text. To make it clear how clear the text is: The Swedish 2006 edition uses the first variety, the English 2008 edition the second one. Really clear Arab text in the original? And these variants also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has/have more than one meaning.

129 23/55-56b: “Do they (people*) think that because We have granted them abundance in wealth and sons, We would hasten them on in every good? Nay, they do not understand”. The rich ones have gotten their fortunes from Allah whether they are Muslims or not (the non-Muslims will be punished in the next life, though). Also see 12/57 above.

130 23/56a: "- - - every good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. F.x. producing many children in a time when the Earth fast is becoming overcrowded, to mention a modern phenomenon.

131 23/56b: "- - - they do not understand". One of Muhammad's standard "explanations" for why many did not believe in him. It still is one of the standard Muslim "explanations" for why many see things are very wrong in the Quran. This even though the real fact often is that "they" really understand.

132 23/57a: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

133 23/57b: "- - - those who live in awe for fear of their Lord (Allah*) - - -". Muslims.

134 23/58a: "Those who believe in the Signs of their Lord (Allah*) - - -". Muslims.

135 23/58b: “- - - Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

136 23/59a: "Those who join not (in worship) partners with their Lord (Allah*) - - -". Muslims.

137 23/59b: "- - - join - - - (in worship) partners with their Lord (Allah*) - - -". See 25/18a below.

138 23/60a: "And those who dispense their charity with their hearts full of fear, because they will return to their Lord - - -". Muslims.

139 23/60b: "And those who dispense their charity with their hearts full of fear, because they will return to their Lord - - -" In the Quran charity is because of fear, or to gain merit in Heaven, not because of love of or empathy with your fellow humans. This tells a lot about the Quran and about Islam. The same do the facts that in the Quran you never meet the question of loving your fellow humans, except your nearest ones, and no empathy for humans outside your nearest ones not to mention outside Islam. There is a possible exception for children without parents, but it is more a duty than empathy. This lack of love and empathy are two of the significant differences between the Quran and especially NT. It - and in this case perhaps especially the lack of empathy in the Quran and in Islam - also is a frightening aspect with Islam. It de-humanizes all non-Muslims (just see f. ex. the resent debate in conservative Muslim circles about whether non-Muslims have half the value compared to Muslims as human beings or less) and large parts even of Muslims - like women and also Muslims from other sects.

140 23/60c: "- - - because they (Muslims*) will return to their Lord (Allah - on the Day of Doom*)". Which they will not unless Allah and Islam are real and not made up, and not unless the Quran is correct about everything.

141 23/61a: "It is these (Muslims*) who hasten in every good work - - -". A claim Islam will have to prove

142 23/61b: "- - - good work - - -". Beware that when words like this are used in the Quran, it is meant relative to the Quran's partly immoral moral code - the best of works was f.x. to wage war for Muhammad/Allah.

143 23/61c: "- - -these (Muslims*) who are foremost in them (good works*)". See 23/61b just above.

144 23/62a: "On no soul do We (Allah*) place burdens it cannot bear - - -". Wrong. There f.x. are self murder also in Islam - a few of them may even be camouflaged as self murder terrorists. And there are persons fleeing from their families. And persons with mental problems so big that it hurts or destroys them mentally. They are unable to bear their burdens.

145 23/62b: "- - - a record - - -". Why does an omniscient god need a record?

146 23/62c: "- - - the truth - - -". See 2/2b and 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

147 23/62d: "- - - never be wronged". If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth.

148 23/62e: "- - - never be wronged". Ask a girl who is punished for unlawful sex after being raped, because she cannot bring 4 male witnesses who saw the misdeed, if she is being wronged.

149 23/62f: "- - - wronged", Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

150 23/63-64: Punishment. See 3/77b above.

151 23/63: "But their (non-Muslims'*) hearts are in confused ignorance of this - - -". To claim things about an opponent without checking if it is true, is as far as we know called "3. degree of insincerity" - - - but in debate and in propaganda it often works. Muhammad uses this technique frequently - just look for it and you will find it.

152 23/64a: "Until We (Allah*) seize in Punishment - - -". At the Day of Doom.

153 23/64b: "Until We (Allah*) seize in Punishment - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says it is Yahweh who rules at the Day of Doom, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

154 23/64c: "Until We (Allah*) seize in Punishment those of them (bad people*) who received the good things of this world - - -". This is a subject Muhammad often returned to: The reason why what he claimed were bad people could have a good life whereas good Muslims often had a miserable one, was that the wise Allah in his deep wisdom and for reasons mere humans could not understand had decided it so. But bee soothed - he will punish them in the next life if not before, and then you will be the better off. "Schadenfreude" helps quite a lot - good psychology.

155 23/65: "- - - this day - - -". The Day of Doom.

156 23/66: “My (Allah's*) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

157 23/67a: "In ignorance - - -". This was one of Muhammad's standard "explanations" for why opponents did not believe in him - and it is a standard "explanation" today. This even when debating with persons knowing much more than they also about the Quran. It is a safe road to flee.

158 23/67b: "- - - ignorance - - -". When talking about words related to "knowledge" in the Quran, see 26/83a below.

159 23/67c: "- - - talking nonsense about the (Quran) - - -". There is no reason talking nonsense about the Quran - there are more than enough mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, inhuman aspects, lack of empathy, etc., etc. to talk about.

160 23/67d: "- - - like one telling fables by night". Not irrelevant as much of the Quran is taken from fables, legends, apocryphal (made up) scriptures and fairy tales (the exact sources for most of the tales in the Quran are known). This sentence is unintended irony against the Quran itself.

161 23/68a: "- - - the Word (of Allah*) - - -". As the Quran is not from any god - it would be heresy and slander to blame the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. on a god - it is not the words of Allah (not unless Allah is something very different from an omniscient god).

162 23/68b: "- - - has anything (new) come to them that did not come to their fathers of the old?" Yes, two things: Education - the fathers and mothers of the old never learnt much even of the knowledge which existed at that time. And in addition there is all the new knowledge from the last centuries, revealing even more mistakes in the Quran. And one more thing: Science has found that 3. and later generations Muslim immigrants in "the West" on average are a lot less interested in Islam than their grandparents.

163 23/68c: "- - - has anything (new) come to them that did not come to their fathers of the old?" What the Quran really means here, is that the Quran teaches fundamentally just the same religion as the old Jewish scripture and the Christian ones. This is so obviously wrong that we do not bother to throw away time on commenting on it, except that we remind you that both science and Islam thoroughly have proved that the Bible and the Torah, etc. are not falsified, in spite of Muhammad's repeated, but never documented claims.

164 23/69a: "Or do they (non-Muslims*) not recognize their Messenger (Muhammad*), that they deny him?" It is difficult to recognize a self proclaimed "messenger" one understands is telling so much which is wrong like Muhammad did, that he cannot be a messenger - at least not from a god. Also see 63/5a below.</

165 23/69b: "Or do they (non-Muslims*) not recognize their Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

166 23/70a: "Or do they (non-Muslims*) say, 'He (Muhammad*) is - - -'?" A historical anomaly.

167 23/70b: "Or do they (non-Muslims*) say, 'He (Muhammad*) is possessed'?" According to f. ex. BBC there are good medical reasons to believe he was possessed, at least by an illness. Temporal Lobe Epilepsy (TLE) fits his symptoms well.

168 23/70c: “Nay, he (Muhammad*) has brought them the Truth (the Quran*) - - -”. At very best bits and pieces of what Muhammad brought may be true - see all the mistakes. Also see 13/1g above and 40/75 below. 

##169 23/70d: “- - - but most of them (the non-Muslims*) hate the Truth”. Wrong. It in reality seems that the ones really seeking the truth, mostly are non-Muslims. Muslims, and not to mention many of their religious leaders, seem to be seeking - or inciting to and glorifying - blind belief in spite of real knowledge; they seem to be the ones hating the truth in all cases where the truth is not what their religion says.

We ourselves started to study the Quran some years ago to learn about the religion of the Muslim immigrants, and thus better understand their culture. The main thing we have found till now, is that real truths show that there are enormously many mistakes in the Quran, not to mention contradictions, invalid “signs” and “proofs” - hallmarks of deceivers and cheats - etc., so many that it impossibly can come from an omniscient god. And so many mistakes that it is impossible to trust what is said in the book, unless one has solid extra proofs, or at least confirmation from other, reliable sources.

And also that Muhammad in at least some cases has had to know he was not saying the truth - some things he says, contradicts the fact that he was a wise man understanding people. He simply was lying. But then one of his slogans was: “War is deceit”, and he also told that the result counted more than even keeping even one’s oath sworn by Allah. Not to mention al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth). Sorry.

170 23/71a: “If the Truth (as told in the Quran*) had been - - -”. At most bits and pieces of the Quran are true. See all the mistakes, and also 13/1g above and 40/74 below.

171 23/71b: “If the Truth (as told in the Quran*) had been in accord with their (non-Muslims*), truly the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth, and all beings therein would have been in confusion and corruption!" = Only the god Allah can make heaven and earth function. But may be f.x. Yahweh has an as well organized Heaven? - and is the Earth well organized?

172 23/71c: “If the Truth (as told in the Quran*) had been in accord with - - -". If the truth had been in accordance with the wrong facts in the Quran, neither the Earth nor any living being had existed.

173 23/71d: "- - - truly - - -". See 2/2b above.

174 23/71e: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

175 23/71f: "- - -(non-Muslims' desires will cause*) confusion and corruption - - -". Bitter irony; as we are working through this manuscript for the 4. and last time (Jan./Feb. 2011 AD) large parts of the Muslim world is in wild confusion and uproar because of among other things rampant corruption.

176 23/71g: "- - - admonition - - -". Is there much real admonition in a war religion built on a book full of mistakes, dictated by a man liking power and even according to central Islamic literature believing in dishonesty when that paid better (f.x. broken oaths).

177 23/72a: "Or is it that thou (Muhammad*) asks - - -". A historical anomaly.

178 23/72b: "Or is it that thou (Muhammad*) asks them for some recompense?" Muhammad liked to claim and to pretend he demanded nothing from his followers, and it tells volumes about man's ability not to see what he does not want to see that many a Muslim honestly believe him. It is incredible, but in their blind belief they also are blind to facts like he demanded huge sum of money and valuables - mainly for waging war and for "gifts"/bribes to attract or keep followers - lots of women, and nearly unlimited power and full dictatorship over his followers. And in spite of Muslims tales of how poor he was when he died, at that time he had estates in Medina, in Khaybar, and in Fadang (but he had said that his riches should be inherited by Islam, so that his daughter, Fatima - his only remaining living child - and his wives inherited nearly nothing, and this is the fact Muslims have twisted to a fantasy claim about how poor he was when he died).

179 23/72c: "He (Allah*) is the Best of those who give sustenance". See 11/7a above.

180 23/72d: "He (Allah*) is the Best of those who give sustenance". Well, there is the always recurring question: Yahweh?

181 23/73a: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

182 23/73b: "- - - thou (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

183 23/73c: "- - - thou (Muhammad*) callest them (people*) to the Straight Way - - -". Perhaps - but where is that straight way leading as the Quran, the guide-book full of mistakes, etc., is not from any god? Not to mention if the real maker of the Quran was a dressed up Iblis/the Devil, like one of the theories for its creation says?

184 23/73d: "- - - the Straight Way". = The way to the Islamic Paradise. See 10/9f above.

185 23/74a: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

186 23/74b: "- - - those who believe not in the Hereafter - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

187 23/74c: "- - - (non-Muslims*) are deviating from that Way". But it is a way which does not exist unless Allah exists, and as many non-Muslims see that things are seriously wrong with the Quran and thus with Islam, they also see that there are small chances for that Allah exists. Very small.

188 23/74d: "- - - those who believe not in the Hereafter - - -". Practically all religions had and have a "hereafter". Not identical to the Islamic one, admittedly, but so much is wrong in the Quran, that also the description of the Paradise may be wrong (it actually is to be hoped - Islam's Paradise is a primitive, unfair and little inspiring one, except perhaps for primitive souls: Plenty of sex, good food and clothes and pleasant weather for the men, more diffuse rewards for women). F. ex. the Christian Paradise is very different - very. (F. x. Mark 12/25).

189 23/75a: "- - - the distress which is on them (the people in Mecca*) - - -". This refers to a severe famine in Mecca about 4 years before the Hijrah = ca. 618 BC.

190 23/75b: "- - - transgression - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is meant in accordance with its own rules and its own partly immoral moral code.

191 23/76: "We (Allah*) inflicted punishment on them (the people of Mecca*) - - -". Is this referring to the famine mentioned in 23/75a above? - or to the Battle of Badr? (in that case this verse is a bit younger), - or to something else. Islam does not know. Clear language in the Quran?

192 23/77a: (A23/47): “Until We (Allah*) open on them a gate leading to a severe Punishment: then lo, they will be plunged in despair therein.” An alternative understanding of just the same clear Arab language: “- - - they will despair all hope.” As you see in the Quran the texts are so clear and obvious, that they have to be made by a god – if not, things had been possible to misunderstand or there would be double and multiple meanings here and there.

193 23/77b: "- - - a severe Punishment - - -". See 3/77b above.

194 23/77c: "- - - lo, they (non-Muslims - here likely the leading tribe in Mecca, the Quraysh*) in despair therein". = Into the severe punishment of Hell.

195 23/78: "It is He (Allah*) Who has created for you (the faculties of) hearing, sight, feeling and understanding - - -". One more in the long line of never documented claims about natural phenomena claimed for Allah - just like believers from other religions claim it for their god(s). Loose words and as loose claims are that cheap as long as you are able to flee from proving anything. Also see 11/7a above.

196 23/79a: "It is He (Allah*) who gives life and death - - -". This is a claim you meet several times in the Quran, and we find it an interesting one - interesting because neither Allah nor Muhammad ever was able to prove one millimeter of the claim - like all other central claims in the Quran - whereas Yahweh several times proved he had the power, if the old books tell the truth.

197 23/79b: “And He (Allah*) has multiplied you through the earth - - -”. To say the least of it: That is something the nature and we have managed ourselves absolutely without any help - and with pleasure. Proofs for the claims, Muslims?

198 23/79c: "- - - to Him (Allah*) shall ye (people*) be gathered back (at the Day of Doom*)". Often claimed, but not true unless Allah exists and is a major god, and unless the Quran tells the truth about everything.

 

199 23/79d: "- - - to Him (Allah*) shall ye (people*) be gathered back (at the Day of Doom*)". Contradicted by the Bible, which says you will be gathered by Yahweh, not by Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

200 23/80a: "It is He (Allah*) Who gives life and death - - -". See 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c and 23/78 above.

201 23/80b: "- - - to Him (Allah*) (is due) the alternation of Night and Day - - -" See 11/7a and 23/78 above.

202 23/80c: "- - - will ye (non-Muslims*) not then understand!" The problem is that when you read the Quran with an open mind, it is too easy to do exactly that; to understand that something is seriously wrong with the book, and that it consequently cannot be from a god.

203 23/81a: "- - - they (opponents of Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

204 23/81b: "- - - they (opponents of Muhammad*) say things similar to what the ancient said". How could this end up in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened? One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

Also see 3/154e, 6/149a, 7/34a, and 14/22b above.

205 23/82a: "They (opponents of Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

206 23/82b: "They (opponents of Muhammad*) say: What! When we die - - -". See 23/81b above.

207 23/82c: "What! When we die and become dust and bones, could we really be raised again?" See 23/35b above.

208 23/83: "They (Muhammad's tales*) are nothing but tales of the ancient". This to a large degree is correct, as a large part of Muhammad's tales in the Quran are old tales - fables, legends, folk tales, apocryphal (made up) stories from the Bible, fairy tales - known in Arabia at his time, which were given suitable twists to fit his new religion - no god would need to do that.

209 23/84a: "To whom belong the Earth and the beings therein?" Here Muhammad uses a trick you often see him use - and Muslims used it freely ever after, included today: To take a never proved claim, treat it as a fact and use it as basis for claims and arguments. Here the underlying, never proved claim is that Allah is the owner of everything. This question and its intended answers are totally invalid as long as the underlying presumption is not proved; that Allah really is the owner. But who uses dishonest tricks and debate technique like this? - not an omniscient god who has all facts at least.

210 23/84b: "- - - receive admonition". How much real admonition is there in a book so full of mistakes that it is not from any god? And so full of belief in dishonesty, suppression, stealing, rape, war and blood, that if there all the same had been a god behind it, it had not been a good and benevolent god, to say the least of it.

211 23/84-85: "Say: 'To whom belong the earth and all beings therein? - - -.' They (non-Muslims*) will say, 'To Allah'". Wrong. We would say that nobody knows if the beings do not belong to anybody. Religious non-Muslim persons would name their god(s) as owner(s) if they meant there was such an owner. But Muhammad is relying on a trick here - one which only could be used in Arabia (would a god for the entire world have used one valid only in that small part of the world?) as the main god of the old Arabs was named al-Lah. So when the old Arabs answered "al-Lah" it sounded similar to "Allah", and Muhammad had his "proof". It is a similar trick Islam uses today, when they in the west call Allah "God" - the name "God" camouflages some of the real differences between Allah and Yahweh, as the word "God" automatically makes Jews and Christians think about Yahweh and forget to think over: Are there differences?

212 23/85: “They (non-Muslims*) will say, ‘To Allah’”. Wrong. If they name the name of a god, they will say the name of their own god (in old Arabia that might have been the polytheistic al-Lah). Similar claims in 23/87 – 23/89. Also see 23/84-85 just above.

*213 23/86a: “Who is the Lord of the seven heavens - - -?” Wrong. There are no 7 heavens (and remember: They had to be material ones, because according to the Quran, the stars are fastened to the lowest heaven, and you can fasten nothing to something non-material). All the same you find these claims about 7 heavens/firmaments/tracts in 2/29d+e, 17/44a, 23/17a, 23/86a, 41/12a+b, 65/12a, 67/3a+b and 71/15a+b - all together the Quran mentions "heavens" in plural at least 199 times; there is no doubt the Quran means there are 7 heavens (and as the stars are fastened to the lowermost of them - f. x. 67/5a - they have to be material ones - if not the stars could not be fastened to it). In 67/3 you also are told they are places one above the other, which means they of course are built successively higher above the Earth - which also is clear from most places in the Quran where the place of the heavens are indicated. Some modern Muslims try to place the heavens in space, deep space included. But among others 67/3 prohibits this, as "up" and "down" ("one above the other") has no meaning as part of the real space.

By the way: 67/12b also claims there are 7 Earths, and gives their names according to Islam.

It is some irony to see such a huge scientific mistake used as verification for Allah. And it is not the only time a "proof" for Allah simply is scientifically wrong.

214 23/86b: "- - - the Lord (indicated Allah*) of the Throne (of Glory) Supreme - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which means Yahweh is the one and supreme power, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

215 23/87a: “They will say,’ (They belong) to Allah'”. Wrong. See 23/84-85 above.

216 23/87b: "Say (Muhammad) - - -". A historical anomaly.

217 23/87c: "Will ye (non-Muslims*) not then be filled with awe?" There is little reason to be filled by awe because of not documented claims from a book as unreliable as the Quran, unless the claims first are proved.

218 23/88a: "Say (Muhammad) - - -". A historical anomaly.

219 23/88b: "Who is it in Whose hands is the governance of all things - - -". See 11/7a above. 

220 23/88c: "Who is it in Whose hands is the governance of all things - - -". The intended answer to this rhetoric question id "Allah". But the Bible instead answers "Yahweh".

221 23/89a: “They will say,’ (It belongs) to Allah”. Wrong. See 23/84-85 above.

222 23/89b: "Say (Muhammad) - - -". A historical anomaly.

223 23/89c: "Then how are ye deluded?" Who is deluded if the Quran is a made up book? - and it at least is from no god with all its errors. 

224 23/89d: "- - - deluded - - -". See 2/2b above.

225 23/90a: “We (Allah*) have sent them (non-Muslims*) the Truth (the Quran*) - - -”. Either Allah is not omniscient or someone else has made the Quran – it at best is partly true only. Too many mistaken facts, etc.

226 23/90b: "- - - the truth - - -". See 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

227 23/90c: "- - - falsehood". See 2/2b above. Also beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

228 23/91a: “No son did Allah beget - - -”. Perhaps not. But if Islam still says that Allah = Yahweh, it is sure that the Bible says that Jesus called Yahweh his father many times and to MANY listeners. (And we have found far fewer mistakes in the Bible - and especially in NT - than we have found in the Quran, even though we red also the Bible with critical eyes). And: Also the Quran tells Jesus was honest. And finally: Both science and Islam have clearly shown that the Bible is not falsified - in spite of Islam's never documented claim. (According to our latest leafing through the Bible, Yahweh is called the father of Jesus minimum 204 times and Jesus the son of Yahweh minimum 87 times in that book. Roughly half the times this is said by Jesus).

229 23/91b: The rest of the verse is just a claim - and if some god had lorded over others: And so what? Well managed hierarchies work well.

230 23/91c: "- - - nor is there any god along with Him (Allah*) - - -". See 2/255a,6/106b above and 25/18a below.

231 23/91d: "Glory to Allah". Read 1/1a and see if he deserves glorification.

232 23/91e: "(He (Allah*) is free) from the (sort of) things they (non-Muslims*) attribute to him". The Bible disagrees not a little with the Quran on many points - like here. Which one of them is most reliable

233 23/92a: "He (Allah') knows what is hidden and what is open - - -". = See 2/233h above.

234 23/92b: "- - - too high is He (Allah*) for the partners they (non-Muslims*) attribute to Him!" This is a claim Muhammad often repeats in the Quran, but never proves - neither that Allah is too high (yes, not even that he exists), nor that he did not want company - if he exists. Also see 25/18a below.

235 23/93: "Say (Muhammad) - - -". A historical anomaly.

236 23/94a: "- - - people who do wrong." Normally in the Quran this does not mean criminals or such ones, but non-Muslims - one of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims. 

237 23/94b: "- - - do wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

238 23/95a: "And We (Allah*) are certainly able to show thee (Muhammad*) (in fulfillment) that against which they are warned". A good claim, but never done - as so often in the Quran, there only are words. See 14/19d above.

239 23/95b: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.

240 23/96a: “Repel evil with what is best”. Later it became: Repel evil with evil – do against “infidel” like they do against you – at least when it comes to the bad things. Further comments identical to 23/54 above. This verse is contradicted and often “killed” (abrogated) by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

241 23/96b: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

242 23/97a: "And say (Muhammad) - - -". A historical anomaly.

243 23/97b: "- - - I (Muhammad*) seek refuge with Thee (Allah*) - - -". Risky unless Allah exists. Not to mention if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces.

244 23/97c: "- - - the Evil Ones". One more of Muhammad's repulsive names for non-Muslims? Some say it here may be meant the Devil, but in that case it had been written in singular. But (A23/58) says that the literal translation of the Arab word (translated from Swedish) means "the demons" or "bad forces", and we find it likely this is the most correct meaning just here.

245 23/98: "And I (Muhammad*) seek refuge with Thee (Allah*) - - -". Risky unless Allah exists. Not to mention if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces.

246 23/99a: "(In Falsehood will they (non-Muslims*) be) until, when death comes to one of them, he says: 'O My Lord! Send me back (to life) - - -". This only is true if the Quran is made by a god. If it is made by no god, the story may be different - and an interesting question in case is: What then about the Muslims? Especially so as some of their moral codes and laws will horrify any god who really is benevolent, not just claims to be so.

23/99b: "(- - - Falsehood - - -) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

247 23/100a: "- - - righteousness - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is compared to the partly immoral moral code in the book.

248 23/100b: "- - - the Day they (people*) are raised up". The Day of Doom.

249 23/101: "- - - when the Trumpet is blown - - -". = The start of the Day of Doom.

250 23/102: "- - -those whose balance (of good deeds) is heavy - - -". In Islam the main thing for being admitted to Paradise, is the balance between good and bad deeds, as opposed to especially Christianity, where the mercy of Yahweh and forgiveness counts a lot more heavily than in the Quran.

250 23/103: "- - - those whose balance (of good deeds*) is light - - -". See 23/102 just above.

251 23/105a: “- - - My (Allah’s*) Signs - - -“. There is not one single sign in all the Quran or anywhere else clearly made by Allah – only claims that any priest in any religion can make. If there had been such clear signs or proofs, you bet Islam had told about it!

252 23/105b: "Were not MY (Allah's*) Signs (Quran-speak for "proofs for Allah"*) rehearsed to you - - -?" A long list of claimed, but invalid signs were rehearsed, but not one real one - and the use of invalid proofs are a hallmark for impostors only.

253 23/105c: "- - - falsehood - - -". Just in this case: It is natural to treat the use of invalid "signs" misused like "proofs" as falsehood. Also Allah is not going to ask such questions if he does not exist.

254 23/107a: "- - - (- - - evil) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

255 23/107b: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". Normally "Quran-speak" for non-Muslims - one of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

254 23/107c: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

255 23/108: "He (Allah*) will say - - -". - only if he exists.

256 23/109a: "We believe - - -". = We are Muslims - only Muslims believe according to the Quran.

257 23/109b: "- - - Thou (Allah*) art the Best of those who show mercy!" Please read the surahs from Medina - as they are the youngest ones, they are the ones which counts when verses conflict, according to Islam's own rules - and the harshest paragraphs in the sharia laws, and see if you agree. Allah in reality is a harsh god, and we any day believe more in what a man or a god demands and does, than in what he or his followers claim - words are cheap.

258 23/109c: "- - - Thou (Allah*) art the Best of those who show mercy!" According to the Bible he has a heavy competitor in Yahweh.

258 23/110a: "- - - My (Allah's*) Message (the Quran*) - - -". The Quran may well be Allah's message, but in that case he is no omniscient god - too much is wrong in the book.

259 23/110b: In this verse Muhammad is "proving" that the reception he got, will be strongly revenged by Allah in the next life - and that he himself was right.

260 23/111a: "- - - this Day - - -". The Day of Doom.

261 23/111b: "- - - they (the Muslims*) are indeed the ones that have achieved Bliss . . ." If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth.

262 23/111c: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

#263 23/112: (YA2948): “He (Allah*) will say - - -“. Here is an interesting small – or big – detail when you think about all the claims about how exactly like Muhammad’s words the Quran is: A. Yusuf Ali refers directly to the difference between 2 “ways of reading”. One is the Hafs version after Kufah, the other is after Basrah – Islam uses the expression “ways of reading” (“qira’ah”) and pretends that that is something different from versions, which it is not. Islam just use another word to conjure away the fact that there exist and existed different versions of the book – there once were 14 “canonized” ones + a lot of others. We quote: “The Hafs reading is “Qala”, “He will say”. This follows the Kufah Qira’ah. The Basrah Qira’ah reads “Qul”, “Say” (in the imperative).” In itself this is a minor detail – though far more than “correct to the last comma” like Muslims often claim (in the first case the quote if from Allah, in the second case Allah is ordering someone (Muhammad?) to speak) – but it documents that the different versions of the Quran still exist and are used. (Actually the two that are in daily use today, are Warsh in parts of Africa, and Hafs in the rest of the world.)

264 23/113: "We (humans*) stayed a day or part of a day - - -". More unclear speech from the Quran. Muslim scholars do not understand what this means and are just guessing. Life compared to eternity? The meaning of time disappears at the Day of Doom? the subjective time spent in the grave? One is guessing.

265 23/115a: "- - - We (Allah*) created you (people*) - - -". See 21/56c above.

266 23/115b: "- - - (all people will*) be brought back to Us (Allah*) (for account (on the Day of Doom*)) - - -". Only true if Allah exists, is a major god and is correctly described in the Quran.

267 23/115c: "- - - (all people will*) be brought back to Us (Allah*) (for account (on the Day of Doom*)) - - -". Once more: Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh runs the game at the Day of Doom, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

268 23/116a: “Therefore exalted be Allah, the King, the Reality - - -“. If there is one thing which is not proved in Islam, it is the reality of Allah. Everything in the religion rests only on blind belief in a tale told by a man with very dubious moral, but a strong wish for power and for wealth for bribes - - - and women – a man using his religion as his platform of power (like many others). And a self proclaimed prophet unable to make prophesies (= a stolen or “borrowed” title).

269 23/116b: "- - - there is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". See 2/255a and 6/106b above and 25/18a below.

270 23/116c: "- - - there is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". Well, there is the impertinent, but very pertinent question: What about Yahweh?

271 23/117a: "- - - if anyone invokes, besides Allah, any other god - - -". A camouflaged way of telling that of course everyone invokes Allah - but some are bad and invokes other gods, too. The plain truth is that few, if any at all, who invoke another god also invoke Allah. In the old Arabia they may have invoked al-Lah, which was the same god Muhammad took over from the pagans, gave a slightly new name and a new past + a new role. But when the pagans invoked al-Lah, they invoked the old pagan god, not Muhammad's new Allah. Anyhow this only was possible in Arabia as it was there the names were so like that this "mishearing" was possible - another Arabism.

272 23/117b: "- - - he (another god*) has no authority - - -". According to the Quran with all its mistakes this is so. But what if also this is a mistake? And what about Allah? - he has never proved his authority, yes, not even his existence.

273 23/117c: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

274 23/117d: “- - - the Unbelievers will fail to win through!” – but not the Muslims, as they are much better quality - - - if the Quran speaks the truth and only the truth and is from a god. A pep-talk.

275 23/117e: "- - - Unbelievers - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims.

276 23/117f: “- - - the Unbelievers will fail to win through!” The sorry truth is that it is possible Islam will win - because of its militancy, its terrorism, its terror against all who wants to leave the religion, and its demand for blind belief and obedience. It will in case be a poor life economically - stagnant industry and agriculture + a population explosion (Muslims are told many children = in a way to be rich). And the intellectual and cultural life? - please do not mention it (remember f. ex. hardly one single new idea which could benefit humanity in some 900 years from 1095 AD on). Something like a Saudi Arabia without oil?

A tempting future for you and your grandchildren?

277 23/118a: "For Thou (Allah*) art the Best of those who show Mercy!". Read the surahs from Medina and the harshest of the Sharia laws and see if you are able to agree. Also see 1/1a above.

278 23/118b: "For Thou (Allah*) art the Best of those who show Mercy!". Islam is a war religion (in spite of loud claims of being "the religion of peace" - read the surahs from Medina before you protest. NT represents the religion of love. Does this say something in this slightly ridiculous (see 1/1a and judge yourself) claim in this verse?

Surah 23: Sub-total: 278 + 11.050 = 11.328 comments.

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