1000+ Comments on the Quran: Surah 15 -- Al-Hirj (The Rocky Tracts)

Revelation: Medina, 621 AD

(See general comments on Surahs here: Introduction)


 

The quotes and comments

001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captured - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 15/1a: "Alif Lam 'Ra". See 11/1a.

003 15/1b: "- - - ayat - - -" = Verses.

004 15/1c: “These are the ayat of Revelation..." Well, is the Quran a revelation? – and in case by whom? There theoretically are 5 possibilities:

1. A god – but the Quran proves that is not the case; too many mistakes, etc.

2. Some dark forces, f.x. the Devil – perhaps in disguise. Muhammad had not one chance to see the difference between Gabriel and the Devil dressed up like Gabriel. The inhuman religion of war may point in this direction.

3. A mental illness. Modern medical science suspects he had TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy). This illness can give religious experiences and fits just like Muhammad is claimed to have had.

4. Humans at the time of Muhammad. The fact that many of the mistakes in the book are in accordance with wrong science in the Middle East at that time, may point in this direction.

5. Muhammad himself. Muhammad’s lust for power - and women - may point this way. It also easily will explain point 4. Add his lack of ethics and moral and it also may explain point 2.

The clear conclusion is that it at least was not revealed by a god, like the Quran claims - too much is wrong in the book. Points 3 and 5 may be the most likely ones - may be combined.

005 15/1d: “- - - a Quran that makes things clear.” With that many mistakes, etc., and often with diffuse text, it makes few things clear and some things very unclear - f. ex. what is the foundation Islam rests on (see 15/1b)?

006 15/2a: "Again and again will those who disbelieve wish that they had bowed to (Allah's Will) on Islam." Psychologically correct words for his followers - there are many such words in the Quran, as Muhammad understood people. And in the difficult year 621 AD they could need soothing and reassuring words like "we" are right and the "enemy" would be punished and would regret. But no: No regret possible, as there are too many absolute proofs for that something is wrong with the Quran and hence with Islam (f.x. all the mistaken facts)- and too strong indications for that it is a made up religion. No-one regrets not bowing to what is likely to be a made up religion - at least one not made by a god (as repeated many times; too much is wrong in the Quran - no god was involved in making it).

007 15/2b: "- - - those who disbelieve - - -". = Non-Muslims.

008 15/3a: “Leave them (the disbelievers*) alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves - - -.” Many places in the Quran you will find claims similar to this - that the reason why non-Muslims stay non-Muslims, was/is that they were/are so bent on living a good life - or a selfish or bad life - here on Earth, that they were not interested in the next life. Anyone knowing people will know that the truth was not as simple as that, but again it is a psychologically good idea to paint the opposition in dark colors and make them "small" and selfish and unwise - they do not "see the truth" because of stupidity and selfishness. It also makes "us" contrast favorably with "them", a psychology and a technique often used by manipulating leaders, especially in politics and in religion - it works especially well among naive and uneducated followers and among people who want to believe or who have tendencies to wishful thinking and with little of critical sense. Muhammad knew people.

009 15/3b: “Leave them (the disbelievers*) alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves - - -.” This was in 621 AD. It did not take long before Allah needed to change and contradict his word, when he started to change his rather peaceful religion to one of inhumanity and blood (luckily many Muslims do not live according to those parts if the Quran). This verse is contradicted – made invalid - and often “killed” (abrogated) by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

010 15/3c: "- - - (false) Hope - - -". Belief in other gods than Allah. A false hope if not the god they believed in - f.x. Yahweh - is real.

011 15/3d: "- - - knowledge - - -". But the knowledge in the Quran is too unreliable, as too much is wrong, and on top it is not from a god - no god makes such a quality book.

012 15/3e: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 26/83a below.

013 15/4a: (A15/4): “Never did We (Allah*) destroy a people that had not a term decreed and assigned beforehand”. Here Mr. Yusuf Ali once more seems to have translated a bit freely – may be because he knew the real meaning impossibly could be correct. According to Muhammad Asad, “The Message of the Quran”, the literal meaning is: “Never did We destroy a people unless it (the community) had known a divine writ - - -.” Perhaps Mr. Yusuf Ali knew the rules for ”al-Taqiyya” (the lawful lie – a duty when it comes to defending Islam). Homo Sapiens is something like 160ooo – 200ooo (195ooo?) years old. Writing has existed just some thousands of years. But thousands and thousands of tribes and peoples disappeared before that. Can thousands of peoples – not persons, but peoples – have died out without Allah’s knowing it, before writing was invented and in contradiction to the Quran's claim that every people had had prophets and books like the Quran? Here something is wrong to say the least of it. And on top of that: There are not one single trace of something similar to the Quran written - or preached - before 610 AD.

014 15/4b: "- - - a term decreed and assigned beforehand". Everything is predestined by Allah.

015 15/5: “Neither can a people anticipate its term (date when its luck or life runs out - their day of death*), nor delay it”. No matter what people do, they cannot foresee or influence their date of death. Clear predestination - - - except what about self murderers - they decide when to die themselves(?)

016 15/6a: "They (non-Muslims opposing Muhammad*) say - - -". A time anomaly.

017: 15/6b: "They (non-Muslims opposing Muhammad*) say: 'O thou (Muhammad*) - - -". How could this end up in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened? One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

018 15/6c: “O thou to whom the Messages is being revealed!” = Muhammad. (it may be understood as a general rule for what prophets are told, but as far as we find, the scholars mean this is quoted from what was said to Muhammad - and there is no doubt such things were said to him).

019 15/6d: “O thou to whom the Messages is being revealed!” See 4/47c, 5/59e, 15/1b above. Similar claim in 43/43.

020 15/6e: “O thou to whom the Messages is being revealed! Truly thou art mad (or possessed)!" Even at that time many saw that something was wrong with his teaching.

021 15/6f: "- - - revealed - - -". The old question: Was the Quran revealed or not, and in case by whom or what?

022 16/7a: "Why bringest thou (Mohammad*) not angels to us (non-Muslim*) - - -". See 15/6b above.

023 16/7b: "Why bringest thou (Mohammad*) not angels to us if it be that thou hast (speak*) the Truth?" One more of the many requests for proofs - requests Muhammad always had to evade, sometimes with lies like "no-one will believe even if they get sure proofs/miracle". Muhammad was too intelligent not to know this was untrue - some/many had come to believe. The only normally intelligent and educated person believing in excuses like this one, is the person who strongly wants to believe, or who is so brainwashed that his brain does not work.

024 15/7c: "- - - the Truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

025 15/7+8: “’Why bringest thou (Mohammad*) not angels to us if it be that thou hast (speak*) the Truth?’ We (Allah*) send not the angels down unless for just cause: if they came (to the ungodly), behold, no respite would they have (it would suddenly be the Day of Doom*).”

It is no just cause to prove to millions of non-Muslims and to doubting Muslims that Islam is a true religion? See 6/8a+b+c above.

026 15/8a: "- - - just cause - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

027 15/8b: "- - - ( - - - the ungodly) - - -". Non-Muslims.

028 15/8c: "- - - no respite would they (the ungodly*) have". = it would automatically be the Day of Doom for them. But this is contradicted by the "fact" that there all the time are angels around every human being noting down all their good and bad deeds, according to the Quran.

029 15/9a: “We have, without doubt, sent down the Message (the Quran*)”. Wrong. There is a lot of well-founded doubt about that. Too many mistakes, among other things. No god makes that quality book.

030 15/9b: "- - - without doubt - - -". See 2/2b above.

031 15/9c: "- - - We (Allah*) will assuredly guard (it (the Quran*) (from corruption)". Some Muslims mention this as a proof for that the Quran is an exact copy of Muhammad's words - Allah guards it against corruption, and then nothing can possibly have changed even a comma. But the history of the Quran is pretty turbulent, and many versions have existed - nobody knows how many. This mainly because of the unfinished Arab alphabet - it was not completed until around 900 AD. Finally 7 different editions were canonized, each of them in 2 versions = 14 different. Slowly most of them fell into disuse, and today there are 2 versions in daily use - after Hafs and after Warsh. So just you guess if the Quran has been corrupted!

032 15/9d: "- - - assuredly - - -". A prominent example of that such words in the Quran are not reliable: See 15/9c just above! Also see 2/2B ABOVE.

033 15/9e: "- - - We will assuredly guard (it (the Quran*) from corruption)". YA1944: "The purity of the text of the Quran through fourteen centuries is a foretaste of the central care with which Allah's Truth is guarded through all ages". Not one word about the troubles because of the incomplete Arab alphabet around 650 AD. Not one word about the many varieties. Not one word about changes through the time - documented f.x. by the finding of the "Quran-graveyard" in Yemen in 1972. Do you find it strange that persons used to honesty and to straight scientific ways of thinking sometime feel disrespect and distaste when studying Islamic sources? - And Abdullah Yusuf Ali: "The Meaning of the Holy Quran" is one of Islam’s "flagships" on the intellectual medium level!

034 15/10a: "We (Allah*) did send Messengers before thee (Muhammad*) - - -". The Quran claims all people to all times have been sent prophets teaching Islam - the number 124ooo is mentioned (not in the Quran). Neither science nor Islam has found one single trace from them, except the old ones from the Bible - and they spoke about Yahweh and about a religion too different from Islam to be from the same god.

035 15/10b: "We (Allah*) did send Messengers before thee (Muhammad*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

036 15/11: "But never came a Messenger to them (people*) to them but they mocked them." On one side this is not true - there were prophets in Israel who were not mocked (f.x. Samuel) - any god had known this, Muhammad likely not, as he at least in 621 AD hardly knew the real Jewish scriptures. But on the other hand these were good and psychologically nice words for his followers to hear in a difficult year like 621 AD; Muhammad's situation was normal for a prophet - he had to be a prophet.

037 15/12: "- - - sinners - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

#038 15/12-13: "Even so do We (Allah*) let it creep into the hearts of the sinners - That they should not believe in the (Message (the Quran*))." No-one who honestly claim that Allah and Yahweh is the same god, has ever read NT with an open mind. The fundamental differences are too deep and too big. f.x. Allah who here hinders sinners from believing. Yahweh/Jesus goes far out of his/their way to save them - "the lost lamb" (or sheep), etc. - even in "the 11. hour" = up to the very last moment. (Luke 15/8-10 - 15/11-31, Matt. 18/12-14 - 20/8-13)

039 15/14: "Even if We (Allah*) opened out to them a gate from heaven, and they (disbelievers*) were to continue (all day) ascending therein (they would not believe*) - - -". This is one of the places in the Quran where Muhammad explains away the difficult question why he could prove nothing. And it is one of the places where he knew the fast-talk was a lie: If there was opened a gate to Heaven, and people knew it led to Heaven, there would have been a run for it, and "seeing is believing", at least in cases like this - and Muhammad was too intelligent and knew too much about people not to know this. The same goes for any intelligent person today - they know this would be the result. Even intelligent, brainwashed Muslims know this deep down.

040 15/14+15: “- - - They would only say (when experiencing a miracle*): ‘Our eyes have been intoxicated - - -”. Wrong. At least some had come to believe. These two verses are a piece of fast-talk. There is some fast-talking in the Quran - trying to explain away things and facts and ideas and not least questions which are difficult to explain or answer. See the chapter about fast talk in the Quran. And there are even more fast-talk among Muslims today, trying to explain away mistakes, abrogation, changes in Islam around 622, etc., not to mention trying to present Islam as a peaceful religion. Just in this case one tries to explain away questions for proofs for Allah and for Muhammad's connection to a god.

**But the really bad thing about this point is that it is one of the points where Muhammad himself knew he was lying – at least some would believe in Islam if he produced miracles or could in other ways prove his claims. He was too intelligent and knew too much about people not to know this – this even more so as he himself told about heathens becoming Muslims after they had experienced miracles (f. ex. the magicians of Pharaoh), and he also had a good example in Jesus who got many believers from making miracles – some refused to believe no matter, but quite a number of others did after miracles made by Jesus (made also according to the Quran).

***041 15/16a: “It is We (Allah*) Who have set out the Zodiacal signs in the heavens (plural and wrong*)”. Actually we think there is nothing in the universe that Muhammad knew about, which he does not claim credit for on behalf of his god. Only a pity he was limited to what Muhammad believed he knew - which produces extra doubt when things on top of lack of proofs, sometimes are really wrong.

On thinking it over: It really is strange that Allah makes no claims of credit for things Muhammad did not know about - in Muhammad’s and Islam’s future that would have made elegant proofs for Allah. There are none - no true foretelling at all and also no scientific or other facts that were unknown at the time of Muhammad, which would have proved Allah later. (This in stark contradiction to such claims from lay Muslims. But check those claims - till now each and every of them have been wrong. And another curious fact: You meet those claims from lay Muslims without much education, and you meet them in media meant for lay Muslims or sometimes for non-Muslims without too much education - often run by educated Muslims, but aiming at "the masses". You seldom find it in media/books meant for really educated persons. Strange, don't you think so?)

042 15/16b: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

043 15/17a: “- - - We (Allah*) have guarded them (the Zodiacal Signs*) from every evil spirit accursed: - - -” According to the Quran, the stars – included the Zodiacal signs – are fastened to the lowermost of 7 heavens (material ones – they have to be if the stars can be fastened to one of them). But jinns/bad spirits wanted to spy on the heavens, and had to be chased away by stars used as shooting stars. And then the Zodiacal signs were guarded at the same time. According to science this is utter nonsense to at least the fifth power. Any god had known – even baby ones – but Muhammad not. Then who made the Quran with all its mistaken facts, etc.?

###044 15/17b: “- - - We (Allah*) have guarded them (the Zodiacal Signs*) from every evil spirit accursed: - - -”. This is such a nice claim that we like to look at it. Incredible that anyone with a measurable IQ is able to believe such a text.

**045 15/18a: “But any (jinn/bad spirit*) that gains a hearing by stealth (by spying on the heavens*) - - -". According to the Quran, jinns and bad spirits often try to spy on what is going on in the Heavens, by trying to listen to what is said. (If you think this is stuff from a fairy tale, do not blame us).

**046 15/18b: “But any (jinn/bad spirit*) that gains a hearing by stealth (by spying on the heavens*), is pursued by a flaming fire, bright (to see).” According to the Quran, the stars are fastened to the lowest of 7 material heavens (see 15/17a above). The stars are lights and decoration, but are also used for shooting stars for weapons to chase away jinns and bad spirits. (YA comment 1954: "A shooting star appears to be meant".) Muhammad did not know that the mass of a star is somewhere in the range of 1 shooting star x 10 to the 20. or more power and utterly impossible to use as a shooting star in our atmosphere – for the reason of its glaring light, for the reason of heat, for the reason of irradiation, for the reason of gravity, for the reason of sheer size, etc. As said in 15/17a above: Scientific nonsense and insanity to at least the 5. power. No god uttered this fairy tale stuff – but Muhammad did not know any better. Then who made the Quran?

047 15/19a: “And the earth We (Allah*) have spread out (like a carpet); - - -”. In the Quran the Earth is flat - which is wrong. Just ask any god. (Actually it is not directly said in the Quran that it was flat - this was too obvious for Muhammad even to mention. But all things it is compared to, are flat. And in Hadiths it is told that the 7 Earths are placed one on top of the other.)

*048 15/19b: “- - - set thereon (on the Earth*) mountains firm and immovable - - -.” But no mountain was ever set down – not to mention from somewhere above. They without exception did grow up, no matter whether they grew up because of volcanism or because of tectonic activity (the only two ways mountains are made). Any god had known – but Muhammad not.

049 15/19c: "- - - mountains firm and immoveable - - -". A main reason for setting down mountains on Earth, is to stabilize the (flat) Earth, so that it shall not start wobbling and perhaps turn over and drop you off. (Modern Muslims explains that mountains shall stabilize against earthquakes, but that is a newer explanation. Besides mountains do not stabilize against earthquakes - on the contrary sometimes - so also that "explanation" is wrong).

050 15/20: "We (Allah*) have provided therein (the Earth*) means of substance - - -". See 11/7a above.

051 15/20-21: Everything is provided by Allah. See 11/7a above.

052 15/22: "And We (Allah*) send the fecundating wind, then cause rain to descend from the sky - - -". Another place the Quran even tells that Allah breaks the clouds to pieces (and thus makes the raindrops(!)). Muhammad gives Allah the honor for everything. But see 11/7a above.

053 15/23a: "And, verily, it is We (Allah*) who give life, and We Who give death - - -". That Allah can give death Islam and all its raids, wars, pogroms, mass murder, terrorism, etc. have given solid proofs for. But as for giving life, this is something the Quran many times claims, but which neither Muhammad, the Quran, Muslims, Islam, or even Allah himself ever has produced on single unmistakable proof for - only miles of loose words and as loose claims. (Whereas Yahweh/Jesus produced plenty of proof if either the Quran or the Bible tells the truth on this point). Also see 21/56c below.

054 15/23b: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

055 15/23c: "- - - it is We (Allah*) Who remain inheritor (after all else pass away)". After the Day of Doom only Allah remains to inherit Earth.

056 15/23d: "- - - it is We (Allah*) Who remain inheritor (after all else pass away)". But what about f.x. Yahweh?

057 15/24: (YA1965): “- - - those of you who hasten forward, and those who lag behind”. Another cryptic sentence Muslims are not sure what means. The first to accept Islam, and the later ones? Those of the earlier times and those who will come later? The first in war and the reluctant ones? Muslims and doubters? Who knows? The gloriously clear and unmistakeable language in the Quran - a solid proof for that the book is made by Allah, according to Muslim.

058 15/25a: "Assuredly - - -". See 2/2b above.

059 15/25b: "Assuredly it is thy Lord (Allah*) Who will gather them together (at the Day of Doom*) - - -". Similar often claimed, never documented.

060 15/25c: "Assuredly it is thy Lord (Allah*) Who will gather them together (at the Day of Doom*) - - -". Wrong according to the Bible - it says that that will be Yahweh's job.

061 15/25d: "(Allah*) is Perfect in Wisdom and Knowledge". Not if he made the Quran - or did somebody else make it in his name?

062 15/26a: “We (Allah*) created - - -". Ever so often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere - one of those easy claim anyone can use free of charge, as long as no proof is necessary.

063 15/26b: “We (Allah*) created man from sounding clay - - -.” But: This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 55/64 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5,35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses. But minimum 15 contradictions.)

064 15/26c: “We (Allah*) created man - - - from mud molded into shape - - -.” But:

This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5,35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2b in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses. But minimum 11 contradictions.)

065 15/26d: “We (Allah*) created man from - - - mud - - -”. Wrong. See 6/2b and 15/26b+c above.

066 15/27a: “And the Jinn race, We (Allah*) had created before - - -". According to this, the jinns were created before man. Jinns are a typical Arabism - something special for Arabia and its surroundings (you f.x. may find djinnies in Jewish folklore and fairy tales - though not in the Bible). They have a not small, but very unclear share of the supernatural part Islam's world, together with spirits, etc.

067 15/27b: “And the Jinn race, We (Allah*) had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.” Here is something wrong. It is said several places in the Quran that the Jinns were created from fire - and one place it is said from fire without smoke – not from a hot wind.

(At least 3 contradictions).

068 15/28a: “I (Allah*) am about to create man, from sounding clay, - - -.” Wrong - and identical to 15/26a. This is contradicted by 6/2 (see this), 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 55/64 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tells man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5,35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tells man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2b above.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses. But minimum 15 contradictions.)

069 15/28b: “I (Allah*) am about to create man, from - - - mud - - -”. Wrong - and identical to 15/26b. This is contradicted by 6/2 (see this), 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 that tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 37/11 that tells man/Adam was made from sticky clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5,35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly reckoned this contradicts 28 other verses. But minimum 11 contradictions.)

070 15/28c: “I (Allah*) am about to create man, from - - -". It is somewhat thought provoking that an omnipotent god needed anything at all to create man from - this even more so as his raw material was rather primitive and inorganic anyhow. After all the Quran at least two places states that Allah can only say "Be", and it is.

071 15/29a: "- - - fall ye (angels*) down in obeisance unto him (Adam*)". This is not from the Bible, and you find nothing even remotely similar in that book.

072 15/29b: "- - - fall ye (angels*) down in obeisance unto him (Adam*)". Here we have yet another fundamental difference between Yahweh's religious establishment and the one of Allah. That the angels should prostrate themselves for and pay obeisance man, proves that man is high above the angels in the Quran. The relative position between man and angels is not specified in the Bible, but there is no doubt that they are of a higher standing than an earthbound man.

##073 15/30a: "So the angels prostrated themselves (for Adam) - - -". Proving that man is something much higher than Allah's angels. And on background of that in the Bible angels are something of high esteem - not specified, but clearly higher than man - it at the same time is proving that there is a marked difference between the biblical angels of Yahweh and Allah's angels - a clear proof for that the two gods and their divine spheres are not the same, as their angels are of different value and standard compared to man - Allah's ones clearly much lower than Yahweh's , as they are lower than man.

074 15/30b: "So the angels prostrated themselves (for Adam) - - -". Just for the record: You find nothing like this in the Bible - there the angels belong to a higher sphere than man.

075 15/30-31: "So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together: Not so Iblis - - -". This verse makes trouble for Islam. It is nowhere directly said what kind of being Iblis - the Devil - were. Here it is indicated that he was one of the angels. But Allah created the angels from light, whereas it is clearly stated a couple of places in the Quran that Iblis was created from fire, and in that case he should be a jinn. It may also be added that many Muslims mean that all this was theater arranged by Allah to fulfill his great plan - Iblis could not make a Hell against Allah's will, as Allah is omnipotent. But what does that in case tell about the merciful and benevolent god Allah

076 15/31: "Not so Iblis - - -". Iblis refused to accept that man was superior to himself. May be to the anger of Allah - but maybe not. As Allah is omnipotent, nothing can happen without his permission. Therefore Iblis could not do this without Allah's permission, Muslim scholars say - and they continue that this must be the result of a decision made by Allah, because he wanted a Hell, and that this scene was something predetermined - an agreement between Allah and Iblis. In short: Allah wanted or needed a Hell - perhaps for punishing not obedient men and jinns and perhaps others - and set up this scene together with his servant Iblis.

But if Allah set up such a sadistic and horrible Hell, it tells something about him.

And why did he need the theatre - the farce - this scene is?

078 15/32: "(Allah) said: 'O Iblis! What is your reason - - -". Why should an omniscient god ask for this? - if he was omniscient, he knew on beforehand. But as mentioned above it might have been part of a theatre.

079 15/33a: “- - - man, whom Thou (Allah*) didst create from sounding clay, - - -”. Wrong. See 6/2b and 15/28a above.

080 15/33b: “- - - man, whom Thou (Allah*) didst create from - - - mud, - - -”. Wrong. See 6/2b and 15/28b above.

081 15/33c: In short: Iblis' reason was racism to use a modern word but age old way of thinking. He does not point to that he is of a superior group of beings, but he points to a non-essential fact and uses this for setting himself in a higher position - an excuse for a claim of being superior, simply, just like in any earthly society built on discrimination. (It may be impolite to mention it, but Islam is a typical discrimination society: Muslims on top - for some strange reason in a discrimination society the "we" who set up the society always are on top - the "people of the book" lower, and the Pagans at the bottom, and with these layers subdivided according to how bad sinners, etc. the different persons are, etc. The old South Africa or South States of USA, but built on religion, not on color of skin.)

082 15/33-39: “(Iblis (the future Devil*) said): ‘I am not one to prostrate myself to man, whom Thou didst create from sounding clay, from mud molded into shape’. (Allah) said: ‘Then get thee out from here, for thou art rejected, accursed. And the Curse shall be on thee till the Day of Judgment.’ (Iblis) said: ‘O my Lord! Give me respite till the Day the (dead) are raised.’ (Allah) said: ‘Respite is granted thee – till the Day of Time Appointed.’ (Iblis) said: ‘O my Lord! Because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on earth, and I will put them all in the wrong - - -.” This is the essence of how Hell came to. The story is not very logical, and as mentioned many Muslim scholars speculate about if Iblis in reality is working for Allah in accordance with Allah’s secret Plan. Nobody on Earth will ever know. But what kind of god is Allah in this case?

083 15/34: "Then get thee (Iblis*) out from here - - -". This was the exact start of Hell - be it Iblis' decision or Allah's Plan.

084 15/35a: "And the Curse shall be on thee (Iblis - the Devil*) - - -". How seriously can this have been meant if this scene was prearranged between Allah and Iblis?

085 15/35b: "And the Curse shall be on thee (Iblis - the Devil*) till the Day of Judgment". What will happen to Iblis then? We have been unable to find the answer - nothing in the Quran, vague speculations other places. And nothing on if this will in between mean anything to Hell. But: As sinners do not go to Hell until the Day of Doom, that day cannot be the end of Hell - and what then about its ruler, Iblis?

**086 15/36a: "Give me (Iblis/the Devil*) then respite till the Day the (dead) are raised." But this period is just an intermezzo for Iblis - the time he can use for luring men and jinns to Hell - f.x. the Muslims if the theory that Iblis is the reality behind the Quran is correct. His real region is Hell, and his reign over the sinners does not start there until after the sinners are judged and sent into Hell at the Day of Doom. So why respite only to the Day of Doom? The Quran sometimes(?) is not logical./p>

087 15/36b: "- - - the Day the (dead) are raised". The Day of Doom.

088 15/37: "(Allah) said: 'Respite is granted you (Iblis/the Devil*) - - -". Iblis got his respite - or perhaps his order from Allah?.

089 15/38: "- - - the Day of the Time Appointed". = The Day of Doom".

090 15/39a: "Because Thou (Allah*) hast put me in the wrong - - -". This only is correct (as seen by Iblis) if Iblis really was thrown out from Heaven. If this scene only was a prearrangement between Allah and Iblis (for the benefit of whom?), also this is part of the theatre.

091 15/39b: "Because Thou (Allah*) hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on earth, and I will put them all in wrong - - -". This is the claimed rationale and reason behind Hell in the Quran - it is Iblis' revenge for being thrown out from Heaven.

092 15/39c: "Because Thou (Allah*) hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on earth, and I will put them all in wrong - - -". What kind of being did the claimed omniscient Allah create when he created Iblis, if this scene is real? - and what kind of sadist is Allah if it in reality is he who is behind the establishing of a Hell that horrible and that sadistic? - so out of all proportions inhuman compared to fair punishment for the after all medium sins of most sinners.

093 15/39d: "- - - put me in the wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

094 15/40: "- - - except Thy (Allah's*) servants - - -". Iblis did not get permission to hurt good Muslims. (An irony if Iblis in reality is behind the Quran, which is one of the theories for whom in reality made the Quran, as it is not from any god with all its errors).

095 15/41a: "This (way of My (Allah's*) sincere servants) is indeed a Way that leads straight to Me." In plain words: Live according to the Quran and to Muhammad's orders, and you go straight to Heaven - and the straightest way of course is the way of Muhammad's warriors - the jihadists (which by the way is the name modern terrorists in honest belief for it being correct use for themselves even today). But see 15/41b just below.

#096 15/41b: "This (way of My (Allah's*) sincere servants) is indeed a Way that leads straight to Me." This is one of the very many never proved claims in the Quran. It is an especially sincere and sinister one if the theory that Iblis/the Devil is the real maker of the Quran, is the true one - and the indicators pointing in that direction are a bit too many for comfort. (Though happily the theory that the book is man-made, is more likely. With all its errors and weaknesses it is not from any god).

097 15/41c: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

098 15/42a: "Over My (Allah's*) servants (man/Muslims*) no authority shalt thou (Iblis/the Devil*) have - - -". See15/41a above.

099 15/42b: "Over My (Allah's*) servants (man/Muslims*) no authority shalt thou (Iblis/the Devil*) have, except such as put themselves in the wrong - - -". But how can anyone "put themselves in the wrong" if the Quran tells the truth when it many places claims that Allah decides everything? Muslims will tell you about man's free will, but if Allah decides everything, man has not free will - and if man had free will, Allah cannot be entirely omniscient (because f.x. after Allah says "now I know the future" man always can change his mind once more if he has free will - - - which means Allah's knowledge is wrong). Islam has given in finding an answer to this impossibility - only lamely says that it has to be true as it is said so in the Quran(!!) They forget that some of the immaterial laws are absolute even for omnipotent gods (an easy example we have mentioned before: One mathematical 1 + one mathematical 1 can give only one answer even for gods - the mathematical 2). There are things which are impossible also for omnipotent gods - f.x. to combine Allah's total predestination many times stated in the Quran, with full or partly free will for man. Or the other way around. Something is seriously wrong here.

100 15/42c: "- - - put themselves in the wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code - f.x. refusing to go on raids for stealing, enslaving, murdering, etc. for Muhammad and the good and benevolent god Allah.

101 15/42d "- - - wrong - - -". See 2/2 - and 15/42c - above.

102 15/43a: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

103 15/43b: "- - - Hell is the promised abode for them (non-Muslims*) all!". See 3/77b above.

104 15/43c: "- - - Hell is the promised abode for them (non-Muslims*) all!". A relevant fact here is that never in all history and pre-history there was one single proved case of Allah keeping a promise. (The best proof for this, is Islam's silence about such a proved case.)

105 15/44: “To it (Hell*) are seven gates: for each of those Gates is a (special) class (of sinners) assigned.” The worse non-Muslim - or even Muslim sinner - the worse part of Hell you will end up in.

106 15/45-47: “The righteous (will be) amid Gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water. (Their greeting will be): ‘Enter ye here in Peace and security’. And We (Allah*) shall remove from their hearts any lurking sense of injury: (they will be) brothers (joyfully) facing each other on thrones (of dignity).” An existence one could envy them - - - if it was not for all that is wrong in the Quran, that results in a lurking feeling of “what if”. – what if all this also is wrong? – what if it is fairy tales to attract people – and warriors - to build a platform of power for someone? – and even worse for the ones believing in religion: What if there exists a real religion somewhere, one that Islam blocks the road to? (What is totally sure at least, is that the Quran neither is made by an omniscient nor by a benevolent god).

107 15/45a: "The righteous - - -". Here: The Muslims.

108 15/45b: "The righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

109 15/45c: "- - - Gardens - - -". Muhammad's and Islam's paradise - see 10/9f above.

110 15/45d: "- - - Gardens and fountains (of clear-flowing water)". An Arabism - see 4/13d above - in the meaning that this is the primitive desert-dweller's dream of the conditions in Paradise.

####111 15/46: "(Their (the righteous'*) greeting will be): 'Enter ye here in Peace and security". This is all very nice - but who are the really righteous ones? Remember here that real morality and ethics does not build on Muhammad's selfish, self centered, and primitive war related "moral" code, but on something like "Do unto others like you want others do unto you".

112 15/47: "- - - facing each other on thrones (of dignity)". There are many humans , so there must be endless rows of such thrones. Inspiring. And a primitive paradise.

113 15/48: "- - - nor shall they (people in Paradise*) (ever) be asked to leave". But 11/108c may indicate that Paradise is not quite for ever.

114 15/49a: "I (Allah*) am indeed Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina and see if you afterwards agree to this claim.

115 15/49b: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

116 15/50a: "- - - My (Allah's*) Penalty" - - - does not exist unless Allah exists - but may well exist even if he in case may be belongs to the dark forces.

117 15/50b: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

118 15/50c: "- - - grievous Penalty". See 3/77b above.

119 15/51a: "- - - the guests of Abraham - - -" One or more historical anomalies.

###120 15/51b: "- - - the guests of Abraham - - -". According to the Quran these were some angels in the shape of men, who later continued to Lot. According to the Bible it was Yahweh and 2 angels - all three in the shape of men. (1. Mos. 18/1, 18/10, 18/13, 18/17, 18/20, 18/22, 18/26, 18/33 - When the word "Lord" is used like here in the Bible, it always means Yahweh.). The two angels later continued to Lot in Sodom (1. Mos. 19/1).

121 15/51-60: The angels visiting Abraham - details different from and/or often contradicting the Bible. This story - like a number of others - are with variations told several times in the Quran (as said viewed as literature the Quran is not a good book - f.x. often boring and repeating itself like here).

Not mentioned just here, is that the Quran claims Abraham built the Kabah mosque in Mecca - not mentioning that it is some 1200 km by air and mostly harsh desert between Canaan (and also Sinai) where Abraham lived and Mecca. You are free to believe it.

122 15/52a: "He (Abraham*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

<>123 15/52b: "He (Abraham*) said (when the angels came*):, 'We feel afraid of you'". In the Bible ha did not feel so, but gave them food, which they ate (1. Mos. 18/8) - - - which contradicts other places in the Quran which claims that Abraham grew afraid of his guests because they did not eat. (In the old times it might mean they were enemies, in the Quran angels do not eat, as they do not need to - one more indication for that the angels of Yahweh were different from the angels of Allah, and thus were from different heavens, and thus from different gods.)

124 15/53: "- - - a son endowed with wisdom". In the Bible Abraham just was told he would get a son (1. Mos. 18/10). From where did Muhammad get the rest of the information?

125 15/54a: "He (Abraham*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

126 15/54b: "Do you give me (Abraham*) the glad tiding that old age has seized me?" Abraham is skeptical to the message because of his age (he was not older, though, than he later got 6 sons with a new wife, Keturah, something the Quran does not mention (1. Mos. 25/1-2).

127 15/55: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b above.

128 15/56a: "He (Abraham*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

129 15/56b: "- - - such as go astray". The indicated meaning is "such ones who do not believe in Islam". It is up to you if you will believe that Islam existed some 2500 years before Muhammad, at the time of Abraham some 1800-2ooo BC.

130 15/57a: "Abraham - - -". A historical anomaly.

131 15/57b: "O ye messengers (of Allah) - - -". As these were angels, it is worth remembering this sentence, because the Quran some places says all messengers to man were men.

132 15/58: "- - - sin - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

133 15/59: "- - - Lot - - -". A historical anomaly.

134 15/60a: "Except his (Lot's*) wife - - -". Here is a contradiction to the Bible - there she was not predestined to be destroyed. Another contradiction: According to the Bible Abraham tried to save Sodom and Gomorrah. This you do not find here.

135 15/60b: "- - - his (Lot's*) wife - - -". A historical anomaly.

136 15/61: "- - - Lot - - -". A historical anomaly.

137 15/62: "He (Lot) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

138 15/63-66: In the Bible these messages - in other words - was not delivered until after the angels had sent away the inhabitants of Sodom ("struck them with blindness").

139 15/64a: "- - - assuredly - - -". See 2/2b above.

140 15/64b: "- - - the truth". See 2/2b above.

141 15/67a: "- - - the City (Sodom*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

142 15/67b: "- - - in (mad) joy (at the news of the young men". The men of Sodom and Gomorrah were homosexuals.

143 15/68a: "Lot said - - -". A historical anomaly.

144 15/68b: "These are my guests - - -". In many primitive societies the duty to defend your guests was and is strong, some places very strong. If this was such a society - which is quite likely - these words should have been enough to stop the local men.

145 15/68c: "- - - disgrace me (Lot*) not". To have guests harmed was - and is - a serious disgrace in such societies - see 15/68b just above.

146 15/69a: "- - - fear Allah - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which tells that the god of Lot was Yahweh, not Allah.

147 15/69b: "- - - shame me (Lot*) not". See 15/68c above.

148 15/69c: "- - - shame me (Lot*) not". A historical anomaly.

149 15/70a: "They (the men of Sodom*) said - - -". A historical anomaly.

150 15/70b: "They (the men of Sodom*) said: 'Did we not forbid thee (Lot*) - - -". How could this end up in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened? One more of the many texts or quotes in the Quran which could not have been reliably written into the claimed "Mother Book" (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven (of which the Quran is claimed to be a copy) eons ago, unless predestination was and is 100% like the Quran claims many places (if you look, you will find more cases than we mention - we only mention some of the obvious ones). If man has free will - even partly only (an expression some Muslims use to flee from the problem full predestination contra free will for man (and also contra that there is no meaning in praying to Allah for help, if everything already is predestined in accordance with a plan "nobody and nothing can change" - a problem which Muslims seldom mention), and an expression no Muslim we have met has ever defined) - and can change his mind, full and reliable clairvoyance about the future, not to mention the distant future, is impossible even for a god, as the man always could/can change his mind or his words once more, in spite of Islam's claims. There are at least 3 reasons - 2 of them unavoidable - for this:

When something is changed, automatically the future is changed.

The laws of chaos will be at work and change things, if even a tiny part is made different.

The so-called "Butterfly Effect"; "a butterfly flapping its wing in Brazil may cause a storm in China later on" or "a small bump may overturn a big load".

This that Allah predestines everything like the Quran claims and states many places, is an essential point, because besides totally removing the free will of man (in spite of the Quran's claims of such free will, or some Muslims' adjusted "partly free will for man" - to adjust the meanings where the texts in the Quran are wrong, is typical for Islam and its Muslims) - it also removes the moral behind Allah's punishing (and rewarding) persons for what they say and do - Allah cannot reward or punish people for things he himself has forced them to say or do, and still expect to be believed when he (Muhammad?) claims to be a good or benevolent or moral or just god. Also see 2/51b and 3/24a above.

And as mentioned above, full predestination also makes prayers to Allah meaningless, as everything already is predestined according to Allah's Plan - a Plan which no prayer ("nobody and nothing") can change.

151 15/70c: (YA1993): “They (the men from Sodom and Gomorrah*) said 'Did we not forbid thee (Lot*) (to speak) for all and sundry?’” – or may be the meaning is “- - - to entertain any strangers.” – the Arab text is open to both meanings. As mentioned before: Clear language in the Quran.

152 15/71a “There are my daughters (to marry)”. Here modesty has got the better of the Quran (or the translator). The men of Sodom or Gomorrah were not going for marriage - neither could a few daughters (Lot had 2 according to 1. Mos. 19/30) marry a lot of men. It is talk about sexual abuse. Most likely a dishonest translation – but in that case: How many other places in the Quran are explained dishonestly?

153 15/71b: “There are my daughters - - -". Muslim scholars refuse to believe Lot said this. According to the Quran Lot was a prophet (not so in the Bible), and a prophet simply could not say anything like that (it would in case stain the title of "prophet" and thus also Muhammad.)

154 15/72a: "Verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

155 15/72b: "- - - (O Prophet) - - -". It is not 100% clear to whom the word "prophet" refers, as also Lot according to the Quran was a prophet. But it seems that Allah is telling this story to Muhammad, and that it thus refers to him. But Muhammad was no real prophet. The definition of a prophet was a person who could see at least parts of the unseen, and thus a person who:

Has the gift of and close enough connection to a god for making prophesies.

Makes prophesies which always or at least mostly come true.

Makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies, that it is a clear part of his mission.

A few things Muhammad said, came true – like it has to do for any person saying many things through many years – and most of what he said which did not come true, was forgotten (also this is what normally happens if it is nothing spectacular). But he did not guess the future correctly often - actually he statistically and according to the laws of probability should have "hit the mark" far more often by sheer chance than he did - there just are a few cases where Muslims will claim he foretold something correctly, and few if any of them are "perfect hits". But then the Quran makes it pretty clear that even though he was intelligent, he had little fantasy, and that he also was nearly unable to make innovative thinking (nearly all his tales and his ideas in reality were "borrowed" ones - though often twisted to fit his new religion).

The main things here are that Muhammad never indicated that anything of what he said was meant as prophesies, that he never indicated, not to mention claimed, that he had the gift of prophesying - of "seeing the unseen" - that it nowhere is documented that all/most of what he said about the future came true (point 2 above), and finally that both he and Islam said and says that Muhammad was unable to see the unseen (extra revealing here is that the old Biblical title for a prophet, was "a seer" - one who saw the unseen (f.x. 1. Sam. 9/9)) and also that Islam even today admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad “except the Quran” (prophesying is a kind of miracle - seeing what has not yet happened). (This fact that Islam admits there were no miracles connected to Muhammad "except the revelation of the Quran" also is a solid proof for that all the miracles connected to Muhammad mentioned in the Hadiths, are made up stories - but all the same many a mullah and imam and scholar use these stories, which Islam admits are made up ones, as "proofs" for that Muhammad had supernatural powers and was a prophet. Honesty is not the strong side of Muslim religious leaders.) Also see 30/40a and 30/46a, and we also should add that his favorite wife (and infamous child wife) Aishah according to Hadiths (f.x. Al-Bukhari) stated that anyone saying Muhammad could foresee things, were wrong.

Verse 7/188b also is very relevant here: "If I (Muhammad*) had knowledge of the Unseen (= what is hidden or what has not happened yet*), I should have - - -". IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT MUHAMMAD DID NOT HAVE THE PROPHETS' ABILITY TO SEE "THE UNSEEN" - he was no real prophet. Similar in 6/50a, 7/188b, 10/20c+d, 10/49a, and 72/26.

As mentioned: Also relevant here is that the original title of the Jewish prophets as mentioned was not "prophet" but "seer" - one who saw at least parts of the unseen. (F.x. 1. Sam. 9/9#, 1. Sam. 9/11, 1. Sam. 9/18, 1. Sam. 9/19, 2. Kings. 17/13, 1. Chr. 9/22, 1. Chr. 26/28, 1. Chr. 29/29, 2. Chr. 9/29, 2. Chr. 16/7, 2. Chr.16/10, 2. Chr. 19/2, 2. Chr. 29/25, Amos 7/12, Mic. 3/7 - some places the two titles even are used side by side). Muhammad thus so definitely was no seer - prophet - even according to his own words; he had no "knowledge of the unseen". One more proof for that he was not in the same line - not to say league - as Jesus, if the Bible and/or the Quran tell the truth about Jesus on this point.

Many liked - and like - the title prophet, and there have been made other definitions for this title - the most common of these are "one who brings messages from a god", or "one who represents a god", or "one who acts/talks on behalf of a god". But the fact remains: Without being able to prophesy, he or she is no real prophet. A messenger for someone or something - ok. An apostle - ok. But not a real prophet.

***This is a fact no Muslim will admit: Muhammad in reality simply was no real prophet or seer. Perhaps a messenger for someone or something or for himself – or perhaps an apostle – but not a real prophet. He only “borrowed” that impressive and imposing title. It is up to anyone to guess why.

It also is remarkable that Muhammad relatively seldom used the title "prophet" about himself in the Quran. He mostly used the title "Messenger", even though messenger in reality means an errand-boy (Muslims try to make this title something big and imposing, but this is the meaning of it). "Prophet" on the other hand is a heavy and impressive title telling a lot about the person. May the reason for why he did not use it so often, be that he knew he did not have what it took to merit that title, and was a little careful using it, so as not to provoke questions or comments? (And is this also the reason why Muslims try to pretend that "messenger" is something more impressive and heavy than "prophet"?)

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h below.

156 15/72c: "- - - in their wild intoxication, they (the men from Sodom and perhaps Gomorrah*) wandered in distraction, to and fro". If they were wild from erotic lust, it sounds unlikely that they wandered to and fro in distraction. The explanation in the Bible would have cooled them down, though: The angels struck them with blindness (1. Mos. 19/11).

157 15/73: "But the (mighty) blast overtook them before the morning". Contradicted by other places in the Quran telling they were killed by a rain of brimstones (f.x. next verse - 15/74). (Muslims "explain" this away with a volcanic explosion and eruption, but you do not get brimstones from volcanism.) It also is contradicted by the Bible which tells they were killed by a rain of burning sulfur (1. Mos. 19/24) - which by the way is possible to combine with volcanism. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

158 15/74a: “And We (Allah*) turned (the Cities (Sodom and Gomorrah*) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay”. Some more dead victims. And a small (?) contradiction to the Bible - there it simply rained burning sulfur (1. Mos. 19/24)

159 15/74b: “- - - (the Cities (Sodom and Gomorrah*) - - -". A historical anomaly.

160 15/75a: “- - - Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

161 15/75b: "- - - those who by tokens do understand". Who does not want to be among those intelligent enough to understand. See 13/3j above.

162 15/76a: "And the (cities (Sodom and Gomorrah*) were) right on the high-road". A good piece of information, as nobody in reality knows where they lay, except that it was somewhere in the region of the Dead Sea.

163 15/76b: "And the (cities (Sodom and Gomorrah*) - - -) - - -". A historical anomaly.

164 15/77a: “- - - Sign - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

165 15/77b: "- - - those who believe". Quran-speak for Muslims.

166 15/78a: (YA2000): “- - - the Companions ("People" in the last edition*) of the Wood - - -“. Who were they? Another name for the people of Madyan?. A group within the Medianites? Neighbors of the Medianites? Or some other tribe or group? Nobody knows. Unclear in the Quran.

167 15/78b: "- - - wrongdoers". Normally one of Muhammad's repulsive names for non-Muslims.

168 15/78c: "They were both (the cities Sodom/Gomorrah and "the People of the Wood") on an open highway, plain to see". As for Sodom/Gomorrah, see 15/76a above, and as for the others see 15/78a above.

169 15/80a: "The People of the Rocky Tract also rejected their messengers". - just like Muhammad was rejected in Mecca. Thus rejection was normal for prophets - and Muhammad thus must be a normal prophet. Nearly everything older prophets experienced, paralleled parts of Muhammad's life up to the time the time the surah was published.

170 15/80b: "The People of the Rocky Tract also rejected their messengers". See 15/70b above.

171 15/80+83: “The people of the Rocky Tract (Al-Hidjr in northern Hidjaz in Arabia*) - - - the (mighty) Blast sized them in the morning (and killed them*)”. Allah had some killing sprees - and what was ok for a god, may be morally right for his followers?

172 15/81: “- - - Our (Allah's) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

173 15/82: "Out of the mountains did they hew (their) edifices - - -". In the area mentioned in 15/80-83 above there are old rock dwellings. Muhammad claimed he here was talking about the people who used to live there.

174 15/83a: "- - - a mighty blast seized them (non-Muslims*)- - -". See 3/77b above.

175 15/83b: "- - - a mighty blast seized them (non-Muslims*)- - -". Comment YA2004: "The mighty rumbling noise and wind accompanying an earthquake". There is no wind (and thus no blast) accompanying earthquakes - the mechanism producing wind is totally different, a fact even educated Muslim scholars know, but all the same they produces arguments like this. Intellectual dishonesty - there is a bit much of this in Islam. And in a religion using dishonesty/lies, how much is true of their arguments? - and of their religion?

176 15/84: "- - - to no avail to them was all that they did - - -". Nobody can evade Allah's predestination.

177 15/85a: "We created not the heavens (plural and wrong*), the earth, and all that is between them, but for just ends". See 11/7a above.

178 15/85b: "We created not the heavens (plural and wrong*), the earth, and all that is between them, but for just ends". A for the creation this is contradicted by the Bible, which tells that this was done by Yahweh, not by Allah (and perhaps both are wrong on this point. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

179 15/85c: "We created not the heavens (plural and wrong*), the earth, and all that is between them, but for just ends". 1/1a above - very just ends?.

180 15/85d: "And the Hour (Last Day*) is surely coming - - -". A last day will come for man. But it is far from sure it will happen like what the Quran tells. So much is wrong in the Quran, that also this easily can be wrong.

181 15/85e: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

182 15/85f: "- - - surely - - -". See 2/2b above.

183 15/85g: "- - - manifest - - -". See 2/2b above.

184 15/85h: "So overlook (any human faults) with gracious forgiveness". Among human faults according to Islam, are disbelief in Allah or even leaving Islam - and you bet Muhammad left this 621 AD point of view when he grew strong enough. F. ex. Arabia to a large degree was made Muslim at the point of the sword, and the wish to leave Islam soon carried - and some places carries - death penalty. This verse is abrogated – made invalid - and contradicted by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 28 abrogations).

185 15/86a: “For verily it is thy Lord (Allah*) who is the Master-Creator - - -". Similar is often claimed in the Quran. But till now there is not proved Allah has created even the left hind foot of a fly. Words are cheap and can be used by anybody - proofs are more reliable.

186 15/86b: “For verily it is thy Lord (Allah*) who is the Master-Creator, knowing all things.” The mistakes in the Quran in case mean that someone else has made the book – or that Allah does not know all things. But see 2/233h above.

187 15/86c: “For verily it is thy Lord (Allah*) who is the Master-Creator, knowing all things.” See 2/233h above.

188 15/86d: "- - - verily - - -". See 2/2b above.

189 15/87a: "And We (Allah*) have bestowed upon thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) the Seven oft-repeated (Verses) and the Grand (complete or claimed high quality?*) Quran". No god ever sent down a book of this quality.

190 15/87b: "- - - the Seven oft-repeated (Verses) - - -". = Surah no. 1.

191 15/88a: "Strain not thine (Muslim's*) eyes (wistfully at what We (Allah*) have bestowed on certain classes of them (non-Muslims*) - - -". See 12/56b above.

192 15/88b: "- - - lower thy wing - - -". An Arab expression meaning "take care of", "defend", etc. But why does an omniscient god use expressions only Arabs understand in a book claimed to be for the entire world? - and a book claimed to be clear and easy to understand?

193 15/88c: "- - - nor grieve over them (non-Muslims - who after all will end in Hell*) - - -". Quite different from NT, and f.x. its "lost sheep" (Matt. 18/12-14).

194 15/88d: "the Believers". = The Muslims.

195 15/89: "I (Muhammad*) am indeed he that warned openly and without ambiguity - - -". This may have been true in Mecca in 621 AD, but it changed to also to include enforcing as soon as he gained power in Medina a very few years later.

###196 15/90: "- - - those who divided (scriptures into arbitrary parts)". = those who falsified the Bible. Here we are back to one of Islam's central, bur never proved claims: That the Bible is falsified. The claim is long since proved wrong by science - and an even better proof for this is Islam: If they during the 1400 hundred years had found even a microscopic real proof, you had found it in all media and in all relevant university textbooks. You only find claims, a lot of speculations and some al-Taqiyyas. But as Islam cannot survive without the claim that the Bible is falsified (it will in case mean that Muhammad was/is wrong and the Bible right - and thus that the Quran is wrong), Muslims cannot afford to let go of the claim. Better with blind belief, than to have to face the possibility that the religion you have based your life on, may be made up and wrong - no matter what price a false religion might cost you if there is a next life.

197 15/91: “(So also on such) as have made the Quran into shreds (as they please)". Similar to 15/90 just above. But this may also refer to people in Mecca, who were said to make what was revealed of the Quran by then, into shreds and abusing and slandering Muhammad.

198 15/91-92: (YA2013): “(So also on such) as have made the Quran into shreds (as they please). Therefore, by thy (Muhammad’s*) Lord (Allah*), We (Allah*) will, of surety call them to account.” This seems to be about the same culprits as mentioned just above – but many a Muslim scholar think the first part is about the Jews and the Christians (who Islam claims uses bits and pieces of their holy book and have falsified or made up the rest), and the last part they think is about the pagans in Mecca. The answer is unclear - like so often in the Quran.

199 15/92: "- - - a surety - - -". With so many points wrong in the Quran, it maximum is a possibility. Also see 2/2b above.

200 15/92-93a: "Therefore, by (indicating an oath*) the Lord (Allah*), we will, of a surety, call them (some sinners*) to account, For all their deeds". Is it here Allah who is speaking? - but in that case Allah here swears an oath by Allah - somewhat special. Or is it Muhammad who is longing for to bring his opponents to account?

201 15/92-93b: "Therefore, by (indicating an oath*) the Lord (Allah*), we will, of a surety, call them (some sinners*) to account, For all their deeds". See 3/77b above.

202 15/94a: “- - - turn away from those who join false gods with Allah.” This was in 621 AD. Already the next year Muhammad started to change his religion towards war and blood, and stopped turning away from non-Muslims as soon as his and his successors' military strength was powerful enough to demand conversion to Islam - later on Arabs mainly got the choice: Become Muslims or fight and die. This verse is contradicted and often “killed”/abrogated by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

203 15/94b: “- - - turn away from those (non-Muslims*) who join false gods with Allah.” See 2/165c above and 25/18a below.

204 15/96a: "Those (non-Muslims*) who adopt, with Allah, another god - - -". Similar to 15/94a+b just above.

205 15/96b: "- - - but soon will they (non-Muslims with other gods*) come to know". May be this just means they will get the "knowledge" that Muhammad was right, may be it means they will be punished - see in case 3/77b above.

206 15/97: "We (Allah*) do indeed know how thy (Muhammad*s) heart is distressed at what they say". This is a comment to the fact that many were skeptical to Muhammad's new religion - a comment telling his followers indirectly that Muhammad is right. In a way a small pep-talk - but the contents of a pep-talk is not necessarily true.

##207 15/99: “- - - the Hour that is Certain (the Day of Doom*)”. Because of all the mistakes in the Quran, certainly also the Day of Doom is uncertain – at least in the form described by the Quran – as this easily may be an error, too. This even more so as all the mistakes in the book prove that it is not made by a god, and Muhammad was a self proclaimed prophet unable of prophesying, and who then is left to tell us the true future? (By the way: What is a prophet unable to prophesy? – a title stolen because it sounds impressive? Muhammad never made real prophesies (there were a few sayings which are remembered because they happened to become true or partly true, but no real prophesying). Whereas a real prophet is a man/person making prophesies, and prophesies which at least mostly - or always - are coming true. The only possible conclusion: Muhammad was no real prophet; he only "borrowed" the title – like so many other things he borrowed, and like so many self proclaimed "prophets" through the times. May be a messenger for someone or something – perhaps for himself(?) - but not a genuine prophet.)

Surah 15: Sub-total 207 + 8497 = 8704 comments

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(A6/92 - English 2008 edition A6/93): "- - - it is in the nature of man to regard the beliefs which have been implanted in him(!) from his childhood, and which he now shares with his social environment, as the only true and possible one - - -". He forgot(?) to mention that this also goes for Muslims.

10/32: "- - - apart from the Truth, what (remains) but error?"


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