1000+ Comments on the Quran: Introduction

For a start:

Once not long ago, when we were going to visit http://www.faithfreedom.org, we happened to write www.faithfreedom.com – and got an Islamic page telling that “this page has not been active for some months”. It obviously was a page with disinformation posted by a Muslim organization or something, trying to cheat and discourage persons seeking Faith Freedom – likely the most known of the pages skeptical to Islam. In Islam the use of lies (al-Taqiyya) and half-truths (Kitman) are not only permitted in 8-10 wide cases (f.x. to save your money or cheat women), but advised “if necessary” to promote or defend the religion. In this case they had used a Kitman. (Also deception and even broken oaths are permitted in “the Religion of Truth”.)

Our page concerning Islam really is http://1000mistakes.com , but not to risk a similar experience from Muslims on .com – the most used one – we upload tit-bits from “The Quran, 1000+ comments – skeptics’ facts and thoughts”, under http://www.1000Quran-comments.com . The complete (?) list you find as Book C here under http://www.1000mistakes.com . If you forget the title, simply look for “Mistakes in the Quran” on Google, Yahoo or something – it has been on top there since early 2009.

But one question: How much is true in a religion which relies partly on lies and half-truths and worse? And one more: How reliable are Muslims for the same reason in serious questions? – when do they speak the truth, and when do they use al-Taqiyya or Kitman or a deception (“war is deceit” – and “everything” is war) or even false oaths/broken oaths (to break oaths is advised in the Quran “if it gives a better result” – pay expiation afterwards if necessary). Muhammad even believed in – and used betrayals (f.x. the peace delegation from Khaybar).

As ” http://www.1000Quran-comments.com – “1000+ Comments on the Quran – skeptics’ facts and thoughts” – is a concentration of main points, it may be worth a visit, too.

As for “1000+ Mistakes in the Quran” and all the mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic and of unclear language, etc. in that book: One or a few mistakes, etc. could be accepted even from an omniscient god, as the ones writing it down might have made errors (the Quran is claimed sent down by Allah, but necessarily copied by humans). But to be able to believe such a god have such a bad command of the language, that humans have to explain away mistakes, etc. with “what he really meant” or “parable”, etc. hundreds of times and more + hundreds of contradictions and cases of invalid logic and of unclear language, etc., takes a blindness, naivety or wishful thinking far beyond the incredible and deep into the unbelievable.

Another fact about the language: Muslims like to boast of how elegant Arab is used in the Quran – they even claim it is so elegant that it must be made by the god! (There exists no proofs for Allah, and they try to find such ones wherever there is a possibility.) And thank you very much for a nice language – it was polished for some 250 years (from ca. 650 AD to ca. 900 AD) by some of the best brains Islam had. But the elegance of the language just is the wrapping – it does not help very much with an elegant and exquisite wrapping paper, if the contents are low quality and/or invalid. (A holy book clearly not backed by a god, is invalid as a basis for a true religion. Such a book at best is a collection of legends or fairy tales and a basis for superstition – and for power for the leaders – or at worst a tool for dark forces.)

Muslims tried to block us from the net (see “How to control if our information is correct”): An angry, excited Muslim attack against “bad” people telling facts Islam and Muslim scholars do not like – but not able to find one single piece of wrong information or of hate in https://www.1000mistakes.com worth mentioning in the complaint to strengthen it! Not even top marks from Cambridge or Oxford had been a better guarantee for that our information is correct.

Also https://www.1000mistakes.com has been on Internet for more than 2.5 years (since spring 2008 AD) when this is posted to Internet – most of the time on top on Google, Yahoo, etc. We have received a number of blow-outs like “You are wrong on everything”, “You are lying”, “You just hate Islam”, “You simply understand nothing”, and even “We will kill you for this when we find you”. BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED NOT ONE SINGLE CORRECTION except for wrong spellings and similar + one which wrongly claimed that Dhu’l Quarnayn is not Alexander the Great. The page is debated among and warned against from Islamic scholars and institutions and read and debated by lay members, but they have till now found no mistakes in our quotes serious enough to complain to us to have it corrected!! Oxford and Cambridge to the second power once more.

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One more point: We get questions about what to do to when friends or relatives want to become Muslims. We are not experts on this. But connected to our books we will propose:

  1. Read at least “1000+ Mistakes in the Quran” – http://www.1000.mistakes.com – yourself, so that you know what the reality really is. (All the mistakes, etc. prove beyond any doubt that something is seriously wrong with Muhammad, with the Quran, and with Islam – no omniscient god makes hundreds and more of mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, unclear explanations, etc.)
  2. Try to make the person read that book – and preferably also this one – him-/herself. In most cases when they think about converting, they have got very one-sided information or “information”, and frequently partly untrue or partly untrue such (cfr. facts like al-Taqiyya – lawful lies, Kitman – lawful half-truths, etc., which shall be used by Muslims “if necessary” to promote Islam by f.x. convert non-Muslims). Correct information also about the doubts (or stronger) about Islam because the above mentioned errors, etc. prove 110% that something is seriously wrong, may give them a more balanced view on what to do.
  3. If nothing else works, challenge him/her to refute the points in “1000+ Mistakes in the Quran” – for the benefit of Islam on Internet f.x. If the challenge is accepted, he/she will have to work with and think over the stuff. This may do the job, if there is no total blindness. (It is very ok to post such “refuting” on the net. There are some already – but check their claims and arguments, and laugh from the naivety and the mistakes, be stupefied at the lack of correct knowledge, and weep from the dishonesty. We have not bothered to comment on them – and a few more will not matter.)
  4. As for Muslims not sure of the Quran and Islam: You will find a lot of relevant information in the books, and not even Islam – Islamic organizations and scholars – has claimed that our quotes are incorrect. It also is very easy to check that our quotes are correct.

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To terrorists:

The Quran clearly tells: Parents shall not be punished for what their children do, and children shall not be punished for what their parents do (f.x. partly said in 2/233, but there is another saying it more clearly). You normally punish people who are much less related to persons having done things you do not like – or not related to them at all. Are you above the Quran and above Allah and his in this case unmistakeable words?


 

THE QURAN – 1000+ COMMENTS

SKEPTICS’ FACTS AND THOUGHTS

Also see http://www.1000Quran-comments.com .

ABOUT QURAN -- THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

SOME OPENING WORDS:

Since http://www.1000mistakes.com was first posted on Internet in spring in 2008, it has become a central reference book. But there still are many who do not know about it. Please post the addresses http://www.1000mistakes.com and http://1000quran-comments.com on all your debate pages, information pages, and other relevant pages on the net – the pages you use, the pages you know about, and the pages you come across. Not for the benefit of us, but for the benefit of the ones who may need or want some of the enormous amount of information in the page. Information – quotes – not even Islam claims are wrong (even though they dislike what the quotes tell about the religion). The information may benefit:

  1. Muslims unsure about Islam.
  2. Muslims thinking about leaving Islam.
  3. Muslims looking for facts concerning Islam. Muslims trying in rational ways to evaluate their religion.
  4. Non-Muslims thinking about converting to Islam.
  5. Non-Muslims seeking information about Islam.
  6. Non-Muslims debating with Muslims – Muslims f.x. sometimes are not always 100% honest in such debates.
  7. Politicians and other non-Muslims meeting Muslims in daily life or job.

As for debate pages, the address should be mentioned every now and then, because as new “letters” are posted, they “cover up” a posted address, and it drifts into oblivion if it is not repeated (once a fortnight? – once a month?).

At the time of writing just this (21. Aug. 10), we have up to between 6ooo and 7ooo hits a day – yesterday f.x. 6611 hits. The average of course is lower, but all the same we reach a lot of people. With your help we may reach a lot more – this is information which should reach as many as possible.

Also http://www.1000mistakes.com has been on Internet for more than 2.5 years when this is posted to Internet – most of the time on top on Google, Yahoo, etc. under “Mistakes in the Quran”. We have received a number of blow-outs like “You are wrong on everything”, “You are lying”, “You just hate Islam”, “You simply understand nothing” – it is strange how one in each and every sect and religion included Islam and sects in Islam are sure only they know the “truth”, and everybody else knows nothing and understands nothing, even if the opponents often are more intelligent and more learned, sometimes far more, than themselves – and even “We will kill you for this when we find you”. BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED NOT ONE SINGLE CORRECTION OF OUR QUOTES except for wrong spellings and similar + one which wrongly claimed that Dhu’l Quarnayn is not Alexander the Great. The page is read in at least 70 countries included many Muslim ones, and warned against from Islamic scholars and institutions and read and debated by lay members and learned members, but they have till now found no mistakes in our quotes serious enough to complain to us about or to the manager of our Internet posting to have it corrected!! Oxford and Cambridge top marks to the second power once more.


On Comments on the Surahs

The comments on the separate verses of different Surahs of the Quran start on subsequesnt pages.

Introduction

The introduction is more or less similar for all surahs – skip it if you already have read it and if you do not need to refresh anything, and start at the comments a little further down.

Muslims tried to block us from the net (see “How to control if our information is correct”): An angry, excited Muslim attack against “bad” people telling facts Islam and Muslim scholars do not like – but not able to find one single piece of 9 wrong information or of hate in https://www.1000mistakes.com worth mentioning in the complaint to strengthen it! Not even top marks from Cambridge or Oxford had been a better guarantee for that our information is correct.

##You will find pages on Internet trying to refute especially “1000+ Mistakes in the Quran” (http://1000quran-comments.com is young yet (launched Now. 2010 AD), but there are reactions to this page, too, already). Please read them, but check their claims, information and “information” – laugh at their mistakes and naivety, be stupefied at the lack of real knowledge, weep at the dishonesty (Islam is the only of the big religions which not only accepts, but often advises the use of dishonesty – al-Taqiyya, Kitman, deceit and even broken words/oaths (see separate chapters in “1000+ Mistakes in the Quran) – to promote or defend “the Religion of Truth” (quite an ironic slogan for a religion partly relying on dishonesty)).

###As for “1000+ Mistakes in the Quran” and all the mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic and of unclear language, etc. in that book: One or a few mistakes, etc. could be accepted even from an omniscient god, as the ones writing it down might have made errors (the Quran is claimed sent down by Allah, but necessarily copied by humans). But to be able to believe that an omniscient god has such a bad command of the language, that humans have to explain away mistakes, etc. with “what he really meant” or “parable”, etc. hundreds of times and more + hundreds of contradictions and cases of invalid logic and of unclear language, etc., takes a blindness, naivety or wishful thinking far beyond the incredible and deep into the unbelievable.

The Quran claims it quotes Allah when it says that the Quran has a plain, clear and easy to understand language which is to be understood easily and literally if nothing else is indicated (f.x. 3/7, 11/1, 15/1, 18/2, 18/54, 19/97, 26/2,27/1, 28/2, 36/69, 41/3, 43/2, 44/2, 44/58, 54/17, 54/22, 54/32), and that only bad people “sick of heart” or “in whose hearts is perversity” (f.x. 3/7) look for hidden meanings – meanings “only Allah can understand”. Then one has to be naive in the extreme to believe in Muslims’ claims that all the mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, unclear language, etc. in the book in reality are not mistakes, etc. but only the omniscient god who are so clumsy expressing himself that he has been unable to say what he meant, and that clever Muslims have to help him and tell what he “really” meant or explain that “it is parables”. Or that Allah does not mean what he clearly says, but that the mistake, etc. in reality is an allegory – a hidden meaning – and clever humans have to explain the “real” meaning of his helplessly chosen words. Strangely you mainly find such claims from Muslims in connection with mistakes, etc., – clearly the omniscient Allah is not mastering neither science nor the plain Arab language properly, and really do need the help from intelligent and clever mere humans to be able to express himself. One or a few such cases should be disturbing for the believers, as an omnipotent god does not make mistakes and he also should be a master of expressing himself clearly and impossible to mistake in clear words with distinct and unmistakable meaning. One or a few cases could be explainable, but when it runs in the hundreds and even a few thousands of such cases, it requires blindness, naivety and/or wishful thinking beyond the unbelievable to be able to believe in such “explanations”. Even with lots of wishful thinking it takes blindness and naivety far into the incredible to be able to make oneself believe this.

“One case is coincidence, two cases are suspicious, three cases are proof”, Stalin said. Here are may be 3ooo cases!!


Our books are to be read and studied – and printed or copied in diskettes or Xerox to be given away (f.x. as promotion – diskettes and paper are cheap) or sold at meetings, in the street, in shops – everywhere. The main thing is to spread the information. We also think at least “1000+ Mistakes in the Quran” should be printed at least in paper-back – it will sell well at least here in the US, in Europe and – strangely (or may be not so strangely) – in India. There will be no royalty to pay – our pages are for free. (And “free publicity” from Islam and Muslims will make it sell even better – though the new Danish book containing the famous Muhammad cartoons has until now (9. Oct. 2010) not made much noise – perhaps the cases of western way of debating Muslims have met, slowly are teaching them civilized behavior? (To stand up for free speech is the only way of teaching them to accept free speech).

Our books are intended for persons with no, little or medium knowledge of the Quran. This means some 99.8% of non-Muslims and 90-95% of Muslims. (It may be a surprise, but most Muslims do not know the Quran well – many have just superficial knowledge or superficial knowledge + better knowledge of cherry-picked parts of it.)

In addition they are meant for Muslims with better knowledge of the book, but with no, little or moderate knowledge of the background scriptures, mainly the Bible (for the sake of convenience, we use the word “Bible” also for the Jewish scriptures, even when NT sometimes is irrelevant for the point debated just there, and for the same reason we use the name “Jews” for the descendants of Jacob also in times before the name really was coined).

And finally it is intended for the really learned scholars – to force them to think over difficult point to be able to explain to us that we are wrong and to correct us.

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PS: Beware that Islam in reality are many things. There is Islam like you find it described in the Quran – what some scientists call “Islam I”. Then there is Islam as it is interpreted by Muslim scholars (Islam II), which may vary not a little. And you have Islam as it is thought and practiced different places and to different times (Islam III) – which may vary quite a lot. We mainly write about Islam I, because this is the basic, and this is how anyone finds it when they search for answers or ideas in the Quran, and not least: This is how the Quran itself says it shall be understood (f.x. 3/7b+e, 6/114e, 11/1b, 16/103c). And not to forget: Islam I is how the conservative Muslims, fundamental Muslims, terrorists, etc. – the best organized and thus powerful groups in Islam – read it, often strengthened by “strong” interpretations.

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To find the real Muhammad in the Quran, you skip the glorious and glorifying words about him, but read what he demanded and did, what moral he stood for and what rules he introduced, etc., and think over what this tell about him. Glorious words are cheap and are used by all dictators and politicians – like Muhammad – and by many others for propaganda. Deeds, etc. is the reality and tell the truth. When there is divergence between nice words and reality, we always believe in the reality. And even in the Quran the historical Muhammad is very different from the glossy picture Muslims and Islam – and the propaganda in the Quran – paint.

In the same way you find the real Allah and the real Islam.

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Beware that we often do not give conclusions, but ask questions or simply give the information and you have to think it over yourself what the information really tells about the Quran, Muhammad and/or Islam. We also frequently use the Quran’s claims or information and treat a point as if this was true, to show the conclusions it gives. In both cases it his partly is done to highlight a point in the best possible way, and partly to try to make the reader think things over him-/herself.

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And beware of one more thing: If it is true what Internet now (Oct./Nov. 2010) tells, that Muslims have launched a partly falsified Bible – falsified in a pro-Muslim direction – and with comments not always honest (Muslims f.x. too often find points in texts which – with or without some twisting – among different possible ways of understanding it, have one they like. Then they skip all other interpretations, and in addition do not say that “this is a possible understanding”, but all too often declare: “This is the explanation!”, or “This is the Truth!”) If they now have made a partly falsified Bible, they are within a solid Muslim tradition going back at least to the many falsified scriptures made up in Muslim Spain in the 8. and 9. century. (The famous and infamous apocryphal – made up – “Gospel of Barnabas” may be one of them.) Lying (al-Taqiyya and Kitman) to defend or promote the religion is no sin in Islam – on the contrary; it is advised “if necessary” to reach a “good” result.

But how much are tales from persons and a religion relying partly on lies, worth? – how much is truth and how much is al-Taqiyya (lawful lies)? Not to mention: What about the religion itself? – how much is truth and how much is al-Taqiyya?


Points to remember before you start reading.

THE USE OF http://www.1000Quran-comments.com (and http://www.1000mistakes.com ):

1. We repeat: Some time in 2010 we were to visit www.faithfreedom.org, but made the mistake of writing www.faithfreedom.com. Up came a disinformation page from Islam telling that there had not been any activity on the page for some months. The clear intention was to cheat new readers to believe Faith Freedom was inactive. This kind of dishonesty is permitted for a number of wide topics in Islam – f.x. for cheating women or saving your money – and not only permitted, but advised to use “if necessary” when it comes to defend or promote Islam.

Because we did not want to meet the same dishonesty, we decided not to put all of it only in http://1000mistakes.com , but also use this name for an extra page and put some of the highlights there, too. So now you in http://www.1000quran-comments.com to find a number of highlights about the topic, but go directly to http://www.1000mistakes.com/1000Qquran-comments to find the “complete” list of comments – on average 2-3 comments for each verse in the Quran.

2. Read first these 2 small chapters in “1000+ Mistakes in the Quran” (= http://www.1000mistakes.com ): “Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood” (VII-10-1) and “The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated” (VII-10-2).

3. NB: As for Internet: We frequently receive empty messages or messages which are unreadable because the letters are mixed in one porridge. If you have something essential to say and do not get an answer, try again – we try to answer all polite letters. And one more thing: If you want an answer you have to write your mail address, because in our “answer box” your address will not show unless it is written in the text.

ABOUT THE PAGES:

4. Please inform all and everybody and all relevant fora – f.x. Internet pages for debate or information – about the address http://www.1000mistakes.com . It is information that is urgently needed by many, not least by Muslims. No god made a book with so many mistakes and other wrongs – and if the Quran and Islam are made up by humans or dark forces, where are the followers of this inhumanly dark and brutal war religion heading for in a possible next life?

5. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organizations warned especially against in 2009 – it could make especially proselytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and “down-to-the-earth” information works. In this connection it is worth noticing that in the “warning” http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.

6. Abbreviations used: YA = Abdullah Yusuf Ali: “The Meaning of the Quran”. A (or MA) = Muhammad Asad: “The Message of the Quran”. OT = Old Testament of the Bible (on which the Mosaic (Jewish) religion is built – NB: for the sake of convenience we) NT = New Testament of the Bible (on which the Christian religion is built – with OT mainly as historical background).

7. Words in ( ) are from the original English translated texts – often additions or explanations made by the translator. But if there in addition is a “star” inside like this ( *) the comment inside is made by us. 1 – 3 ** or 1 – 3 ## (stronger) in front of our serial number for a verse or part of verse means NB or stronger. And NB: If there are points we have not commented on, that does not mean they could not merit a comment.

8. As none of us originally had English as our mother language, and only these last years have had English as our 1. language, there will be imperfections in our English (and our references to Arab are taken from other sources as our Arab is not up to that job). But we must admit that each time we receive a complaint where excited and angry Muslims find nothing but not perfect English to complain about, we feel it is a diamond compliment to the quality of our work. But in so much stuff there has got to be other mistakes, too – we are not gods like Allah. Though the fact that Muslims and others all over the world – we after all are on top of Google and Yahoo on “Mistakes in the Quran” – in these 2.5 years have reported exactly no – zero – mistakes except for linguistic ones, proves and documents that every mistake, etc. we have pointed to in the Quran, are real errors, there may be wrong points somewhere. But if we have made mistakes (but real ones), please inform us – there is so much which is wrong in the Quran, that there is no reason for us or for anybody else to point to any but real mistakes, contradiction, cases of invalid logic, unclear language, etc. If we have overlooked points which ought to be included (but real ones), please inform us about this, too.

9. As mentioned none of us has English as mother language, and there may be linguistic errors. But these means little for the real contents – you may be an excellent farmer even if you are a lousy fisherman.

10. As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in some Muslim areas (f.x. Pakistan) which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for that http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking it was unnecessary) – “cut and paste” whatever you want from it and send, if you want to inform about or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com .

11. If we are blocked centrally – f.x. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with a new address somewhere else, and announce the new address on f.x. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam and/or the pages of http://www.faithfreedom.org.

12. Muslims often haughtily tell that many through the times have told negative facts about Islam without an effect. For one thing it is not true – many have left Islam. But in addition some things are different now:

  1. Internet and the modern flow of information. The Mullahs and imams slowly are losing their monopoly on information. They can block Internet – like f.x. Pakistan has done for our books (and thus show that our information is too difficult for them to meet or argue against) – but they can block it only partially and information and facts will drip in even there.
  2. Many non-Muslims know more about the Quran and about Islam than before, and thus know more about what they are talking about – and thus easier can point to the weak spots of that book and of Islam.
  3. Many Muslims get more education and thus easier see the errors in the Quran – and the inhumanities.
  4. There now are much more – and correct – information about the Quran and about Islam, and f.x. about the impossibility that the Quran can be made by any omniscient god. It is heresy and slander and an insult against any god to accuse him of having sent down a book so full of mistakes, contradictions, invalid logic, unclear language, etc. Information which slowly reaches also Muslims. F.x. our books.
  5. Science has found that 3. generation Muslim emigrants in “the West” are losing interest in Islam – information works.

      13. ### Muslims insist it is impossible to translate the Quran correctly (just like the Japanese used to do about their language before they learnt other languages well – then they stopped claiming it). That is rubbish. What one human brain is able to think, another human brain at the same level of intelligence is able to understand. At most it will take some extra explanation.

      14. Science talks about Islam I = Islam like you find it in the Quran, Islam II = Islam like it is explained (and problems “explained”) by Islamic scholars, and Islam III = Islam like it is told by imams and mullahs and practiced by the followers – which may vary a lot from time to time and from place to place – there is a great difference between Islam in f.x. Sabah, Malaysia, and f.x. in North Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. We as mentioned mainly concentrate on Islam I because that is the basic, and that is how every Muslim meets the texts when he open the book. But we touch Islam II and III a little.

      ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE PAGES:

      15. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah’s claimed omniscience vs. man’s claimed free will:

      “With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidability in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made by Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life according to Islam, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!- this even though that in all other aspects of life, blind belief is the most sure way to be cheated.

      17. ####Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid logic, etc. in that book, prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god – no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibited from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practicing such an inhuman war religion (f.x. it’s partly immoral moral code, rules for thieving/robbing, lying (al-Taqiyya, etc.), raping girls and women, enslaving, suppression, war, etc.) like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life with a benevolent god somewhere? – Hell or Paradise?

      18. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge. And remember: “A proof is one or more PROVED facts which can give only one conclusion”. Islamic debate and information normally build only on claims and statements which are not proved, so demand proofs in any debate with Muslims (you seldom will get them, and never in basic questions – their method normally is to throw out claims, and demand proofs from you for the opposite, and such proofs can be difficult there and then, and then they have “won” the debate, even if they may be wildly wrong. Demand proofs for their claims first, after all it is they who launch the claims and then it is their job to prove them – and you win many a debate just on this because Islam has no proofs on any central point of the religion).

      19. But do remember that many uneducated Muslims honestly believe slogans like “Islam is the religion of peace” – they simply have not read much of the Quran, or they have read the glorious words, and are unable to see the harsh realities told in the book by the claims and deeds and introduced rules it tells about. The flowering words is the propaganda, the demands and deeds and rules are the reliable realities. The religiously educated ones know better – - – which sometimes s difficult to believe from what we hear from mosques, madrasas (religious schools) and other fora.

      20. Note how often the word “the Truth” and similar are used in the Quran, mostly as a claim for the claimed high value and quality of the texts. In normal life the ones needing to tell so often and strongly that they are speaking the truth, are the ones not telling the truth and having no way of proving their tales – natural if they are made up. Simply the cheat and the deceiver. We also quote the infamous “Minister of Propaganda” in Nazi-Germany: Joseph Goebbels: “Tell a lie often enough, and people starts believing it”. (The word also is used in the Bible, but far from so often, and “not spoken with such big letters”.

      SOME RELIGIOUS FACTS FROM THE PAGES:

      21. We remind you that Muhammad claimed Allah = Yahweh – a claim which is easy to see is wrong, as the fundamental ideas and ideologies in the teachings/religions are too deeply different (Jesus love and peace and empathy, Muhammad Nazi-like (Carl Gustav Young) haughtiness, stealing/robbing, rape of girls and women, discrimination and war – and lawful dishonesty (al-Taqiyya, etc)). Because of this claim, he uses the name Allah for Yahweh (God). The differences between Yahweh (especially as we meet him in NT and his New Covenant – f.x. Luke 22/20) are so obvious and so easy to see (claims never documented by Islam, but proved wrong by science as they and also Islam have proved the Bible is not falsified), that mostly we do not bother to comment on it.

      22. You often meet the claimed miracles connected to Muhammad used as arguments for that he must have been a real prophet and with connections to a god. You find these claims in the Hadiths only, not in the Quran.

      This is very strange and peculiar – and revealing for the mentality of Muslim leaders and scholars – as the Quran indirectly, but most clear proves that all those stories are made up ones and untrue. If there had been miracles connected to or preformed by Muhammad:

      1. Opponents had not asked for miracles to prove Muhammad’s tales and claims – they had known there were miracles.
      2. If they all the same had asked, they had promptly been told about miracles which had happened.
      3. Followers had definitely not asked – they had known about each and every miracle.
      4. If any follower all the same had asked, you bet they had got information instead of “explanations away”.
      5. If there had been miracles, his followers had used them to propagate the religion. There is no tale about this being done in the Quran.
      6. Also Muhammad had used them in his preaching. There is no such case in the Quran and hardly in the Hadiths.
      7. And the strongest of the indirect, but clear and solid proofs: If there had been miracles connected to or performed by Muhammad, he had not had to explain away – even lying in the Quran – requests for proofs for his religion and god and for his own connection to a god: He simply had told about the miracles. There are many places in the Quran where Muhammad must use fast talk and worse to explain away requests for proofs/miracles. There is not one case of him telling about miracles connected to himself or performed by him.

      In addition there is the fact that Islam itself tells: “There are no miracles connected to Muhammad, except the (claimed*) delivery of the Quran”.

      Also f.x. Aishah – Muhammad’s famous and infamous child wife – clearly states in Hadiths that Muhammad made no miracles – f.x. was “unable to see the unseen” = unable to make prophesies.

      All the same imams, mullahs, scholars and Islamic literature tell about, glorifies, and use as proofs for Muhammad and Allah the tales/legends about such miracles – and therefore many Muslims honestly believe in them; Of course their cherished religious leaders tell them the truth!? But it is permitted in Islam – even advised – to lie “if necessary” to defend or promote the religion (al-Taqiyya – the lawful lie, Kitman – the lawful half-truth, “war is deceit” – and “everything” is war, and “break even your oaths – pay expiation if necessary – if that gives a better result”.

      This is a kind of dishonesty you do not expect from honest leaders in an honest religion, and it tells not a little about the honesty, reliability, etc. and about the religious leaders in Islam.

      Worse: As these stories about the miracles are untrue, but glorified by Muslims, how much more is untrue in the religion?

      Worst: If the Quran is a made up book – and it clearly is not from a god (too many mistaken facts and other errors, too many contradictions and unclear language, too much invalid logic, etc.) – what then is Islam? – and where will Muslims end if there is a next life?

      SOME COMMENTS:

      23. One standard way for Muslims to explain away mistakes or bad meanings, is to claim that it means something else than what the words say – “they are parables”. But for one thing the Quran itself as mentioned above states in words not possible to misunderstand, that the verses are to be understood literally if nothing else is said, and that only “those with an illness in their hearts” go looking for hidden meanings – meanings only Allah can understand according to the book (3/7 and others). But worse: Is it possible for anyone really to believe that an omniscient god is so clumsy expressing himself, that he needs a lot of help from more of often less educated humans to explain helpless clumsiness and contradictions and to explain away that this god is so retarded that he often says other things than he mean, and that thus we clever humans have to tell what he “really” means in his stumbling over wrong facts, etc.?

      24. It would be possible to explain away one or a few mistakes, etc. in a book made by a god. But to be able to believe in the “explaining” away for hundreds and hundreds and more mistaken facts, invalid logic, contradictions, etc., takes either a well developed mental blindness – it is impossible to see, not to mention admit even for yourself what you strongly do not want to see – or a naivety far beyond what normally is claimed possible and deep into the incredibly unbelievable. It also is slander, an insult and heresy to blame a quality like in the Quran with all its errors, etc. on an omniscient god. But then it take a mental stamina and backbone many do not have, to face the possibility that the foundation you have built your culture and your personal life on – your religion – may be a made up fairy tale or legend. Or simply a tool for gaining power.

      25. Some special words and expressions:

      “Arabism”: Anything which is typical only or mainly for Arabia or its near neighbor or other areas with similar climate, nature, culture, etc. there are lots of cases in the Quran which indicates that the maker of the book thought such conditions were the typical ones for humans – and lots and lots of cases where relevant differences from other parts of the world are not mentioned, this even though Allah is claimed to be an omnipotent god for all the world. There are more than the ones we list.

      “Historical anomaly”: The Quran claims that Allah sent down copies of the claimed “Mother Book” (13/39b, 43/4b+c, 85/21-22) in Heaven to prophets and messengers from Allah in the past (Hadiths mention 124ooo or may be even more through the times from Adam to Muhammad and all over the world. The Quran is such a copy, which means that the other copies are similar to the Quran – all copies of a book have to be similar naturally. What we call a “historical anomaly” in our book, is something which cannot have been written into the Quran a long time before it happened or was said (Islam claims it was written by Allah even before man was created or has existed since eternity and was never written – as nobody reveres his own work like it is said Allah does with the original book, the claimed “Mother Book (13/39b, 43/4b, 85/21-22) the second explanation may be the most likely(?)), unless there is total predestination of everything, like the Quran claims and states (as normal without any proofs) many places (but in this case free will for man is impossible).

      Also a prophet/messenger/reader might feel unsure about because the incident told about had not happened yet or the person referred to was not born or at least not active yet when the mentioned prophet/messenger/reader lived, and perhaps in a for the reading prophet totally unknown culture (f.x. an aborigine prophet in Amazonas 15ooo years ago – according to the Quran all humanity sporadically had its messengers to all times and all over the world (f.x. 6/42, 6/90, 10/47, 16/36, 35/24)) – remember here that the claimed Mother Book as mentioned was made by Allah before man was created, or perhaps has existed since eternity, and that a copy to f.x. Abraham some 3800 – 4ooo years ago, Noah some 5600 years ago or may be more (the number is uncertain), must be similar to the Quran Muhammad god – if not it is not a copy of the same book. There are many more than the ones we list.

      An extra point here which the Quran never mentions and Muhammad, Muslims and Islam never explain, is that if the claimed “Mother Book” was made before man was created, or even has existed since eternity, the unchangeable Quran (Allah’s words cannot be changed – f.x. 10/64) – copy of that “Mother Book” – and the older copies claimed sent to older prophet, had to be a pure book of foretelling about the future for the older prophets. In their copies they could read about future prophets like Moses and Jesus and others, about things which would happen in the future, etc. And f.x. Jacob could read about what had happened to his son Joseph, and that they would meet again. There is no – no – mentioning in the Quran of this obvious and self evident effect of such a book if it was given to the claimed prophets of the old – may be too difficult for Muhammad to explain? (Muslims claim that there were different books for different times, but this is strongly contradicted in the Quran by what is said about the claimed “Mother Book”, and if what the different copies the claimed prophets got according to the Quran, were copies of the same claimed “Mother Book”, the copies just were new copies with identical texts). Islam never mention that because of this the old prophets would have good overview of main points and persons in the future, and never explain neither this nor why this effect never is mentioned in the Quran – actually the texts in the book pretends this effect never existed. Unexplainable – like total predestination versus free will for man.

      NB: There are many more historical anomalies in the Quran than the ones we mention – everything written in the Quran in the beginning of time which the free will of man – acts, words, etc – could influence, are such anomalies, as if a person changed his mind a little, the text would be wrong, and thus the only possibility for that it could be written that early and still be reliable, is that predestination was and is absolute – - – and thus no free will for man.

      “Not in the Bible”. This simply means that what is told in the debated point in the Quran, is not from the Bible, and there is nothing closely similar in the Bible. Beware that there are much more of this than the cases we list – there is much in the Quran which is not from the Bible or has any parallel in the Bible, even in the stuff pretending to be Biblical stuff – one of the many indications for that Allah is not the same god as Yahweh/God and for that Muhammad was not in the same line of prophets as the Jewish ones – in both cases the contents of those two books would have had to be at least roughly similar, which they very far form are. (And remember here that both science and Islam has brought formidable proofs for that the Bible is not falsified – the standard claim and the standard way out of problems for Muslims claiming there are no mistakes in the Quran).

      “Contradicting the Bible”. Similar comments like for “Not in the Bible”, except that here you find similar texts in the Bible, but with contents contradicting the Quran. It is up to anyone what they want to believe, but beware that in any normal scientific evaluation, the Bible will be judged to be more likely to be true – if any is true – than the Quran. (There are several valid reasons for this – and especially so as the claim that the Quran is from a god is proved incorrect by all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran: No omniscient god makes mistakes, etc. “en gros” – and Muhammad had no other sources, except old legends, fairy tales, etc. about this.) There are many more than the “few” we list.

      “Incompatible with the Bible”. These are cases where the Quran clearly is contradicted on central or essential points by the Bible – so central or essential that it is clear both standpoints cannot come from the same god. Each and every of these incompatible points separately prove that Allah and Yahweh cannot be the same god, not to mention how strong this proof becomes when you combine the effete of several or all such incompatible points. These points prove very strongly that Allah and Yahweh are not the same deity. (And in addition there are the other proofs and indications for the same). There are more than the ones we list.

      NB: WE REPEAT THAT WE JUST MENTION SOME OF THESE 5 KINDS OF POINTS, BUT FAR FROM ALL – JUST GO LOOKING, AND YOU WILL FIND MORE.

      26. The hard fact is that the Quran seems to be one of the apocryphal (made up) religious books, but further removed from Christianity and/or the Mosaic religion than most of the others – on the fringe even of the apocryphal literature simply.

      27. ###Muslims further insist it is impossible to translate the Quran (just like the Japanese used to say about Japanese before they learnt other languages well). That is rubbish. What one human brain is able to think, another human brain at the same level of knowledge and intelligence is able to understand. At most it will take a little extra explanation.

      28. As for point 27 just above, this claim is impossible to combine with the claim that similar copies were sent to the other claimed prophets through the times and all over the world – nearly none of them would understand Arab. (Some Muslims claim that the reason why only Arab can be used, is that it is Arab which is spoken in Heaven. But Arab like all languages “drifts” – words disappear or change meaning, new words comes, pronunciation may change. Is it then the Arabs who ape the “drift” in Heaven, and how do they in case learn about the changes – or is it Allah and his angels who “ape” the Arabs? Some Muslims even have “proved” that Arab is the original language in the world. Believe it if you want and are totally uneducated.)

      29. This one we repeat: Since http://www.1000mistakes.com was first posted on Internet in spring 2008 it has become a central reference book. But there still are many who do not know about it. Please post the addresses http://www.1000mistakes.com and http://1000quran-comments.com on all your debate pages, information pages, and other relevant pages on the net – the pages you use, the pages you know about, and the pages you come across. Not for the benefit of us, but for the benefit of the ones who may need or want some of the enormous amount of information in the page. Information – quotes – not even Islam claims are wrong (even though they dislike what the quotes tell about the religion). The information may benefit:

      1. Muslims unsure about Islam.
      2. Muslims thinking about leaving Islam.
      3. Muslims looking for facts concerning Islam. Muslims trying in rational ways to evaluate their religion.
      4. Non-Muslims thinking about converting to Islam.
      5. Non-Muslims seeking information about Islam.
      6. Non-Muslims debating with Muslims – Muslims f.x. sometimes are not always 100% honest in such debates.
      7. Politicians and others meeting Muslims in daily life or job.

      As for debate pages, the address should be mentioned every now and then (once a fortnight? – once a month each place?), because as new “letters” are posted, they “cover up” a posted address, and it drifts into oblivion if it is not repeated.

      At the time of writing just this (21. Aug. 10), we have up to between 6ooo and 7ooo hits a day – yesterday f.x. 6611 hits. The average of course is lower, but all the same we reach a lot of people. With your help we may reach a lot more – this is information which should reach as many as possible.

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      30. To Muslim fanatics: Do you want to kill us for writing these books, showing you facts you do not like to meet? – it often is easier to murder than to meet unwanted facts or “the lie of life” to quote Henrik Ibsen, which takes a lot of backbone. But it is too late as the books already are published: The cats are out of the bag.


      Ps: We remind you that Muhammad claimed Allah = Yahweh – a claim which is easy to see is wrong, as the fundamental ideas and ideologies in the teachings/religions are too deeply different (Jesus love and peace and empathy, Muhammad Nazi-like (Carl Gustav Yung) haughtiness, discrimination and war – and lawful dishonesty (al-Taqiyya, etc. and stealing/robbing/looting, etc.)). Because of this claim, he uses the name Allah for Yahweh. This mistake is so obvious and so easy to see (and the claim never documented by Islam, but proved wrong by science – and by Islam), that mostly we do not bother to comment on it.


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