PART VIII, CHAPTER 2, SUBCHAPTER 2 (= VIII-2-2-0)

THE NEXT LIFE AS DESCRIBED IN THE QURAN

HELL AS DESCRIBED IN THE QURAN.

HELL, THE REAL ONE

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.

Hell is not described to the same details as Paradise in the Quran, but there is no doubt that it is a no-good place, run by a real sadist. Muhammad and the Arabs knew very well that the worst pain you normally get are from burns, and adopted the hell from older religions where Hell is a place for maximum physical pain from fire, with disgusting and painful food and drinks plus some psychological distress added.

As you see from the chapter of Paradise, the ones placed at the left side during the Day of Doom, ends in Hell. It is not specified IN THE qURAN where Hell is, but it is clear that it is down somewhere – most likely below the 7 (!) flat Earths. (Accotding to Hadiths, this is where you find Hell).

Also in Hell there are differences. For one thing there are 7 gates leading to 7 different places, one worse than the other, and for another thing the treatment each place might be even worse if there is a reason for that.

But there are (limited) possibilities to call from Hell to Paradise or the other way- just to make the spirit of the inmates of Hell even lower.

Why there is a Hell, really is not clear. Iblis - a Jinn most likely - was ousted from Heaven by Allah, and got permission from Allah to start Hell. Some Muslims think Hell in reality is part of Allah’s unfathomable plans. In that case Allah is far from only benevolent. Whereas some sceptics think Hell just was necessary for Muhammad to make a functional religion.

No matter: It is a bad place filled with physical pain - pains a la Earth mostly.

001 4/56: “Those who rejecter Our Signs, We (Allah*) shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skin is roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste Penalty - - -.” A good and benevolent god – punishing in accordance with the graveness of the sin, and never unfairly hard punishment, at least according to the Quran. Though you have to be a really, really bad sinner to really deserve this sadistic punishment.

002 7/41: “For them (sinners*) there is hell, as a couch (below) and folds and folds of covering above”. As said: Clearly somewhere down.

003 7/46: “Between them (those going to Paradise and those going to Hell) shall be a veil - -” - and the first ones telling the last ones that Islam was right.

004 7/50: “The Companions of the Fire will call to the Companions of the Garden: ‘Pour down to us water or anything that Allah doth provide for your sustenance.’ They will say: “Both these things hath Allah forbidden to those who rejected him”. If you are in pain, it becomes even worse if you know release exists, but you cannot reach it. Muhammad or Allah knew how to impress followers.

005 10/4: “- - - those who reject Him (Allah*) will have draughts of boiling fluid (for drinking*), and a Penalty grievous - - -.” Hell is no Paradise – and Allah a strict god.

006 11/106-107: “- - - there will be for them (sinners*) therein (nothing but) the heaving of sighs and sobs. They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth endure, except as thy Lord (Allah*) willeth”. No hope for all the eternity - except perhaps in the last part of that last sentence. Muslims are unable to agree on if that may mean that Hell once in the very far future may come to an end, at least for some inmates.

007 11/108: “They (Muslims*) will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens (plural and wrong*) and earth endure, except as thy Lord (Allah*) willeth - - -”. The last part of the sentence is explained nowhere in the Quran. The same words are used about Hell in 9/107, and some Muslim thinkers say it may mean that perhaps Hell will not last forever – at least not for all its inmates. If we do not use the same logic for Paradise, this verse means that Paradise will last forever for all real Muslims (and perhaps for a few Jews and Christians deserving Paradise).

008 14/49-50: “And thou (Muhammad/Muslims*) wilt see the Sinners that day (Day of Doom*) bound together in fetters - their garments of liquid, and their faces cowered with Fire”. A bad place and distress similar to the most painful possible on Earth.

009 15/33-39: “(Iblis (the future Devil*) said): ‘I am not one to prostrate myself to man, whom Thou didst create from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape’. (Allah) said: ‘Then get thee out from here, for thou art rejected, accursed. And the Curse shall be on thee till the Day of Judgement.’ (Iblis) said: ‘O my Lord! Give me respite till the Day the (dead) are raised.’ (Allah) said: ‘Respite is granted thee – till the Day of Time Appointed.’ (Iblis) said: ‘O my Lord! Because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on earth, and I will put them all in the wrong - - -.” This is how Hell came to. The story is not very logical, and many Muslim scholars speculates about if Iblis in reality is working for Allah in accordance with Allah’s secret plans. Nobody on Earth will ever know.

010 15/44: “To it (Hell*) are seven gates: for each of those Gates is a (special) class (of sinners) assigned.” The worse non-Muslim - or even Muslim sinner - the worse part of Hell.

011 21/98: “Verily ye (unbelievers) and the (false) gods ye worship besides Allah, are (but) fuel for Hell”. One Question: Jesus is a prophet to Muslims. But according to Muslims he also is a false god to Christians (Muhammad did not understand trinity - he believed it to be 3 gods with Mary as no. 3). As a false (?) god, is he then but fuel for Hell?

012 22/19-22: “- - - for them (non-Muslims*) will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein - - -”. A strict regime.

013 25/13-14: “And when they are cast, bound together, into a constricted place therein (Hell*), they will plead for destruction there and then! This day plead not for a single destruction: plead for a destruction oft-repeated”. Hell means to be burnt to death constantly without the possibility to get release from the pain by being destructed.

014 32/13: “If We (Allah*) so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, ‘I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together’”. One thought: May be it is true Allah has arranged also Hell. Another thought: No matter if he has or not – as long as he wants to fill Hell with living beings, he is no benevolent god. (Jinns are beings borrowed from Arab folklore and the earlier pagan religion – according to Islam they are created by Allah from smokeless fire, whereas angles are created from light.)

015 35/37: “Therein (Hell) will they (non-Muslims/sinners*) cry aloud (for assistance): ‘Our Lord (Allah*)! Bring us out: we shall work righteousness, not the (deeds) we used to do!’” The inmates of Hell will plead for mercy, but to no avail.

016 37/64-68: “For it (the zaqqum tree) is a tree that springs out of the bottom of Hellfire: The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of devils: Truly they (sinners in Hell*) will eat thereof and fill their bellies therewith. Then on top of that they will be given a mixture of boiling water”. Marquis de Sade - giving name to “sadism” - was an amateur in comparison to the Quran.

017 38/75-82: The same story as in 15/33-39 above (Muhammad had a tendency to repeat himself – not god for literature quality), but with the addition of why Iblis did not want to prostrate himself for Adam: “I am better than he: Thou createdst me from fire, and him Thou createdst from clay.” Iblis was haughty or - if he was in cohorts with Allah in a game for having a reason for creating Hell – he played haughty.

018 40/49-50: “Those (sinners*) in the Fire will say to the Keepers of Hell: ‘Pray to your Lord (Allah or the Devil?*) to lighten us the Penalty for a Day at least.’ They will say: ‘Did there not come to you messengers with Clear Signals?’ They will reply, ‘Yes’. They (the keepers*) will reply, ‘Then pray (as you like)! (to no avail*)”. In Hell there is no pardon.

019 40/71-72: “When the yokes (shall be) round their (sinners in Hell*) necks, and the chains; they shall be dragged along – in the boiling fluid; then in the Fire they shall be burned.” Not a refined treatment, but efficient – and easy also for primitive men to understand. Daily life in Hell according to Muhammad or Allah (?)

020 40/85: “But their (sinners*) professing the faith when they (actually) saw Our (Allah’s) Punishment was not going to profit them.” To avoid Hell you have to regret - and preferably make amends for – your sins in time, and in good time before you die.

021 44/43: “Verily the tree of zaqqum (a tree that only grows in Hell*) will be the food of the Sinful – like molten brass; it will boil in their insides. Like the boiling of scalding water.” Also Hell is earth-like in that the sinners need food and drink – which also become parts of their sadistic torture. What they get to drink mostly is boiling or more hot, but a few times may be colder than ice. And the food is from the zaqqum tree, the thorny dari bush or “corruption from wounds”.

022 55/44: “In the midst of boiling hot water will they (sinners in Hell*) wander around”. Another variety for a change.

023 56/52-54: “Ye will surely taste of the Tree of zaqqum. Then will ye fill your insides therewith, and drink Boiling Water on top of it.” Pure sadism and torture.

024 56/92-93: “For him (the sinner*) is Entertainment with Boiling Water and burning in Hell-Fire.” Now boiling water is much colder than normal fire, but all the same far too hot for the human body.

025 69/30-33: “Size ye him (the sinner*), and bind ye him, and burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, the length of which is seventy cubits! (= 35 m?*)”. A long and heavy chain makes the situation if possible even worse.

026 69/36: “Nor hath they (the sinners*) any food except corruption from the washing of wounds - - -.” Disgusting food - - - but also one of the contradictions in the Quran, as they also had food from the zaqqum tree – see 44/43 and 56/52-54 above – and the dari bush (also said only to grow in Hell), see 88/6 below.

027 77/30-33: “Depart ye (sinners*) to a Shadow (of smoke ascending) in three columns, (which yields) no shade of coolness, and is of no use against the fierce blaze. Indeed it throws sparks (huge) as Forts - - -.” This is about the trip from the place of doom to Hell.

028 77/35-38: “That (the Day of Doom*) will be a Day when they (the sinners*) shall not be able to speak. Nor will it be open to them to put forth pleas. Ah woe, that Day, to the Rejecters of Truth! That will be a Day of Sorting out! We (Allah*) shall gather you together and those before (you)!” If Islam is a made up religion to manipulate people to gain a platform of power for Muhammad, and to gain blindly believing followers, Muhammad used exactly the right psychology – and the psychology used by many a starter of extreme sects or religions: Isolate the prospects as much as possible to hinder too much correcting information and questions, flood them with claimed truths, and use a mixture of honey and the stick – here Heaven and Hell. The old and well tested method for such leaders.

029 88/6: “No food will there be for them (sinners in Hell*) but the bitter dari (a bush with thorns and a bitter taste*)”. Not quite in accordance with what is said other places in the Quran.

030 101/9: “(The sinner*) Will have his home (Hell*) in a bottomless Pit.” Hell must be deep down somewhere.

Hell also is mentioned by name or in reality at least these places:

10/8 – 10/54 – 11/17 – 13/25 – 13/35 – 14/21 – 14/22 – 15/43 – 16/27 – 16/29 – 18/49 – 18/102 – 18/106 – 19/70 – 19/72 – 19/86 – 23/103 – 23/106-110 – 25/11 – 25/34 – 26/91 – 28/84 – 29/55 – 32/20 - 34/20-21 – 35/36 – 37/19-20 – 37/22-23 – 37/31-34 – 37/38-39 – 37/55 – 38/55 – 38/61 - 38/85 – 39/70-72 – 41/28 – 43/74-77 – 44/33-34 – 47/12 – 48/23 – 56/42-44 – 68/43 – 84/10-12.

POST SCRIPTUM TO CHAPTER VIII/2.

Hell in the Quran may be borrowed from the Bible, with some added details. There is nothing more to be said about it, than that it is a hellish place and well designed to frighten people - especially naïve, uneducated and primitive ones.

It may be added, though, that if Allah is the real “proprietor” of Hell, it tells something about him, that may explain the inhuman aspects of Islam – may be it was not the Devil who dressed up like Gabriel and gave Muhammad the Quran anyhow (one of the theoretically possible explanations for the creation of that book.)

NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.

NB, NB, NB:

1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).

2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.

3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.

4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:

“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!

5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Muhammad? - and what than is Islam? - a made up, invalid religion?

6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?

7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.

(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).

PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on a thread with "1000 mistakes" in the title on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page. We cannot answer on that page, though, as it is not safe enough - we have had death threaths (better to kill an opponent, than to check if a religion brainwashed into you only on the word of a man who even practised lies (f. ex. "war is deceit") and advocated breaking even your oaths if that gave a better result, is true ot made up - old beliefs are hard to question).

Please inform all and everybody and all relevant fora - f. ex. Internet pages for debate or information - about the address http://www.1000mistakes.com. It is information that is urgently needed by many, not least by Muslims. No god made a book with so many mistakes and other wrongs - and if the Quran and Islam are made up by humans or dark forces, where are the followers of this inhumanly dark and brutal war religion heading for in a possible next life?