Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
001 2/226 + 226: “For those who take an oath for abstention from their wives (preparing for divorce*), a waiting for four months is ordained; if they then return (all is ok and the marriage goes on*)”. If the man still wants divorce after the 4 months, it takes place. Divorce is very simple for men in Islam (but possible, though more complicated, also for women).
002 2/228a: “Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves (having sex*) for three monthly periods”. This to be sure who is the father if there is a child.
003 2/228b: “And the woman shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable - - -“. But beware: This is said in connection with a possible restart of a marriage where there is separation.
004 2/228c: “And the woman shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them“. Which means that women are one step – small or big – below men as judicial persons (in reality also as human beings).
005 2/229: “A divorce is only permisable twice (from the same man*) - - -.” Twice should be enough, but divorce is very easy in Islam, and may be it happens in fits of anger – and the regret afterwards. (If they happened to want together again, that only was possible if the woman married another man, had sex with him, and the divorced him).
006 2/230: “If a husband divorces his wife (irrevocably), he cannot, after that, remarry her until she has married another husband and he has divorced her.” This is one of the more rotten laws in sharia (Islamic law). If a woman wants to go back to her former husband after a binding divorce – and he wants her to – she is not permitted to do so unless she prostitutes herself with another man (a formal marriage is not accepted in this case).
007 2/233a: “A woman shall give suck to their offspring for two whole years, if the father desires to complete the term”. A long time – and the husband or slave owner if she is a slave or concubine decides, not the woman.
008 2/233b: “No mother shall be treated unfairly on account of her child.” If the mother does her part of the upbringing ok, and the child all the same turns out to be a rascal, the mother (and also the father on the same conditions) cannot be held accountable for what an offspring does. One point in plus for both parents.
009 2/240: “Those of you who die and leave widows behind should bequet for their widows a year’s provision and residence - - -.” A widow has the right to stay in her home and have food, etc. for at least one year - - - if her husband has prepared things so. And what about widows that cannot remarry – f. ex. because of age or illness?
010 2/241: “For divorced women provision (should be made) on a reasonable (scale). This is the duty of the righteous.” Positive for the woman as far as it goes in reality. Nothing is said about what is and who decides what is “reasonable".
011 2/282: “And get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women.” Women have half the value of the man – or even less, as there has to be at least one man.
012 4/11: “Allah (thus) directs you as regards to your children’s (inheritance): to the male, a proportion equal to that of two females.” One man = two women, like in other cases in Islam (in some cases less - f. ex. men decide and men can do what they want).
013 4/19: “Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will.” If your brother dies, you cannot inherit his wife unless she agrees. This of course does not go for slave women, as they are property/things.
014 24/2: “The woman and the man guilty of fornication flog each of them with a hundred stripes - - -”. This is the punishment for unlawful sex according to the Quran. Stoning - normally only of the woman - as one hear about f. ex. from Nigeria and North Pakistan, is not part of the Quran. (There are rumours, though, that verses - perhaps as many as 100 - were omitted from the Quran, and that stoning for such sex was ordered in one of them. But this just is rumours - just like rumours saying that verses were added, though surahs like 111 and verses like those where Allah fixes domestic problems or women for Muhammad neither is worthy a god, nor belong in a veneered Mother Book in an omniscient god’s home: Paradise.)
015 24/6: “And those who launch a charge (of indecency or worse*) against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations) – flog them with 80 stripes - - -.” Also in defence of a woman’s (and her family’s) reputation the punishment can be draconian.
016 24/6-8: “And those (men*) who launch a charge against their spouses, and have (in support) no evidence but their own - their solitary evidence (can be received) if they bear witness four times (with an oath) by Allah that they are solemnly telling the truth; And the fifth (oath) (should be) that they solemnly invoke the curse of Allah on themselves if they tell a lie”. (But in such cases the wife can avert punishment - not clear herself, but avert punishment - by using the same kind of oaths for that her husband is lying).
017 24/26: “Women impure is for men impure - - -.” If a woman destroys her reputation, the punishment is harsh – if she survives. Sharia is strict.
018 33/49: “When you marry believing women, and then divorce them before ye have touched them, no period of Iddah (= waiting) have ye to count in respect of them: so give them a present.” As mentioned further up: Marriage may be quite a casual affaire. And note that the information about not having to wait before the next man is permitted, is given to the (formal) husband or to men in general, not to the woman. This is a religion centred on the men and warriors.
019 58/1: “Allah has indeed heard (and accepted) the statement of the woman who pleads with thee (Muhammad’) - - -and Allah (always) hears and sees the arguments between both sides among you - - -.” Among others this verse makes it impossible not to hear also the woman/women in a conflict. But it is no secret that her judicial position is weaker than the man’s.
020 60/10: “They (Muslim women*) are not lawful (wives) for the Unbelievers - - -”. One consequence is that if a man leaves Islam, his marriage(s) is/are authomatically void. But Muslim men can marry at least Jewish and Christian women.
021 65/2: “Thus when they fulfil their term appointed (connected to a revocable divorce*), either take them back on equitable terms or part with them on equitable terms - - -.” The law is clear, and often it functions. But especially when it comes to contact with their children – and especially boys – the woman is in a weak position.
022 65/4a: “Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses (when divorcing them*), for them the prescribed period (of waiting*) is 3 months if ye have any doubt, and for those who have no courses (it is the same).” A clear law – and should there have happened something in spite of all – pregnancy – one will know the father.
023 65/4b: “- - - for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period (in divorce*) is until they deliver their burdens (till the baby is born*) - - -.” Also a clear law.
024 65/6a: “Let the women live (in ‘iddah (the waiting period around divorce*)) in the same style as ye live.” Also formally a clear law.
025 65/6b: “- - - if they carry (life in their wombs) (at divorce*), then spend (your substance) on them until they deliver their burden: and if they suckle your (offspring), give them recompense - - -.” Another formally ok law. But all these laws are told to the man – his desides mostly. Not to the woman. Or to both.
These two chapters and the chapter about slaves mainly are what is said about women in the Quran - yes, and the houries, but the houries you will find in the chapters about Heaven and Hell. There is a little extra about Muhammad’s many wives, but that does not concern normal women. And: Also believing Muslim women go to Paradise. Little and nothing is said about their existence there, except as parts of their husband’s family, included his new women - the beautiful and attractive houries. And absolutely nothing is said about their existence in Heaven, if they die unmarried or divorced. (Also nothing is said what happens to babies or children that dies, and their life in Heaven.)
All other discrimination Islam makes against women, either (some) are from Hadith or from Pagan tradition and religion before Muhammad (f. ex. female circumcision) taken over by Islam in many countries, plus some things have been added - may be by men more Muslim than Muhammad. (It is a paradox in religion and some other idealistic communities, that if a little is prescribed, there always are extremists believing that more is better, and extremely much is extremely good - even though the god only prescribes a little, and even though the extreme is destroying other good ideas from the god or ideology).
What is sure is that women are second quality humans, ans at least mainly made for the men.
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NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Muhammad? - and what than is Islam? - a made up, invalid religion?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
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Please inform all and everybody and all relevant fora - f. ex. Internet pages for debate or information - about the address http://www.1000mistakes.com. It is information that is urgently needed by many, not least by Muslims. No god made a book with so many mistakes and other wrongs - and if the Quran and Islam are made up by humans or dark forces, where are the followers of this inhumanly dark and brutal war religion heading for in a possible next life?