PART II, CHAPTER 6 (= II-6-0-0)

OTHER TYPES OF MISTAKES AND ERRORS IN THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.

(PART II, CHAPTERS 1 - 10 included subchapters = MEGA MISTAKES, MISTAKES, ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, INVALID LOGIC, ABROGATIONS, ETC. IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH. AT LEAST 100% PROOF FOR THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG - NO OMNISCIENT GOD MAKES MISTAKES)

For the fact mistakes and errors based on themes, see Part II, Chapter 1, Subchapter 3, Sections 1 through 16.

IS ALLAH THE SAME GOD AS YAHWEH (GOD) LIKE CLAIMED IN THE QURAN? - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.

The Quran and Islam have as one of their absolute, but never proved facts, that Allah and Yahweh is the same god. Muhammad found that as there were only one god, and as Jews and the Christians had one god, it had to be the same one. Besides Arabs had for long time thought it might be just two names for the same god (al-Lah and Yahweh). And not least: Muhammad built much of his teachings on what he believed were the religions of the Jews and the Christians - so much that when he arrived in Medina, he wanted to merge his teachings with the Jewish one.

But there are fundamentally so many and so deep differences, that it is not possible it can be the same. One and the same god cannot teach so different religions.

The two religions Islam and Christianity are very different when it comes to the connection to their god. In Islam he is the distant and absolute master - and a god of war. In NT he also is the absolute master, but at the same time he is close to his subjects in a very different way. Also Yahweh/God in NT is very far from a god of war. Very far.

Of course Islam uses their standard explanation: That the Bible is falsified - though they never have proved that statement through 1400 years. And they keep to that statement - because that is the only possible “explanation” they have for differences between the Bible and the Quran, this even though science clearly has shown that the Bible never was falsified by the church (there may be some mistakes, though far fewer than in the Quran - but no falsifications). It is clear that many of the tales in the Quran are “borrowed” from made up religious fairy tales, and even though science as mentioned long ago has proved the claims false by means of the some 13ooo relevant manuscripts and fragments of papers that all are in accordance with the Bible - some of them from just some years after Jesus died - and that most of the New Testament also was written shortly after his death, whereas the Quran was written more than 600 years later on basis of tales - often fairy tales – told through the centuries by words-of-mouth, as Muhammad was no great reader and did not seek the written words. Of course Islam pretends that the Quran is made by the god, but no god had ever made a book that full of mistaken facts and invalid “signs” and “proofs” and as invalid logic. Next time you meet a Muslim saying the Bible is falsified, ask him to prove it - he only comes with statements or references to the never proved Quran, as there are no proofs. On the contrary as said: Science has clearly proved that the Bible is not falsified, but a copy of and with identical contents to the oldest manuscripts.

The very best proof for that the Bible is not falsified is given by Islam and the Muslims: If there had existed one single proof for such a falsification each and every human being on this wide Earth had been told about it whenever the subject surfaced. Islam is totally silent on that point - a lot of loose claims, but not one single proof. Not one in all the thousands of relevant documents known to science.

Also Muslims pretend that the Quran of today is identical to what Muhammad said - which is plainly not true - if for no other reason, than that the Arab written language (the alphabet) was very incomplete at that time, and exact words were often impossible to write - they did neither have the vowels, nor the points that later Arab writhing have, and because of that, many “words” have double or even multiple meanings. In addition there were different texts also after 656 AD - and not least: Old Qurans and fragments differ from the ones of today - f. ex. the many found in Yemen in 1972. At one time there f. ex. existed at least 14 certified cannonized varieties of the Quran (Ibn Warraq: “Why I am not a Muslim” and many others) - they are listed in the prescript of this book (today two of the 14 are in use – Warsh in large parts of Africa, and Hafs in the rest of the world). So next time you meet a Muslim saying the Quran of today is identical to Muhammad’s words, ask him to prove it - and which of the Qurans he think was the most correct.

We will discuss just a few details - but central details - to show some of the differences between NT and the Quran. Differences all the same so fundamental that it is not possible NT and the Quran is talking about the same god.

1. A. Jesus - and the 10 Commandments - say: You shall not kill. The order is absolute.

   The Quran says:

2. Do not kill except for a good reason, and:
3. Do not kill Muslims (4/92).
4. In addition to that: Read chapter IV about Islam and war and weep.

It impossible that the same god is behind so different rules and laws.

1. B. Jesus said: If someone hits one of your cheeks, turn the other one towards him (= you shall not take revenge).
2. The Quran says:

   001 2/178: “The law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder” - take revenge (though to forgive is a good deed - or accept money instead of revenge by killing).

3. 002 2/194: “If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him - - -”. Take revenge.
4. 003 42/20: “The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree) (though no revenge is better for Allah*)”. The rule is: An eye for an eye.

It is impossible that the same god is behind so different rules and laws.

1. Jesus said: It is not enough to forgive an enemy 7 times. You should forgive him seventy times 7 times (= always).
2. The Quran says:
3. 004 9/80: “- - - if you ask seventy times for their forgiveness, Allah will not forgive them - - -”. Simply no comment necessary.

It is impossible that the same god is behind so different rules and laws.

1. Jesus said: "Give the emperor what belongs to the emperor, and God what belongs to God". Which means that religion is for the church, and the secular government is for the government. Muhammad demanded all power to Islam.
2. Jesus said: A shepherd with 100 sheep, who discovered that one is lost, will leave his flock (in a safe place) and go searching for the lost one.
3. The Quran says:

   005 2/6-7: “As to those who reject faith - - - Allah hath set a seal on their hearts - - -”. Absolutely the opposite of what Yahweh and Jesus say.

4. 006 2/26: “- - - He (Allah*) causes many to stray - - -”. Yahweh would go far out of his way to save straying ones, and absolutely not do the opposite.
5. 007 2/89: “Allah is the enemy to those who reject Faith”. Whereas Yahweh leaves his flock in a safe place to try to save the lost ones.
6. 008 2/213: “For Allah guides whom He will to the path that is straight”. Whereas Yahweh goes far out of his way to guide everyone he can to Paradise.
7. 009 4/89: “For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way”. Yahweh according to NT would NEVER throw anyone out of the right way - and would go far out of his way to lead those on a wrong track back to the right one.
8. 010 4/121: “We (Allah*) shall leave him (the one on a track not to Paradise) in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell”. It is mathematically sure it is not the same god.
9. 011 5/41: “Let not those grieve thee, who race each other to Hell”. No comment necessary.
10. 012 5/68: “But sorrow thou not over (these) people without a Faith”. 180 degrees opposite of what is the point of view of Yahweh/Jesus.
11. 013 6/39: “- - - whom Allah willeth, He leaveth to wander: whom He willeth, He placeth on the way that is straight”. Yahweh NEVER would want someone not to follow the right path.
12. 014 6/45: “Of the wrongdoers (unbelievers) the last remnants were cut off. Prise be to Allah - --”. (The last 4 words tell miles about the difference between Islam and Jesus/Yahweh.)

There are many, many more like this in the Quran. And it hardly is easy to find a better way to show how different the two gods are - in one case praise Allah for the ones going to Hell, and on the other side the one who goes far out of his way to search for the ones straying.

It is impossible that the same god is behind so different rules and laws.

. Jesus says: Love your fellow man and woman. The Quran says: Love your fellow Muslim - at least if he is not bad. And:

1. 015 58/22: “Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger.” In addition to the other aspects: The only criterion is if they love Allah and Muhammad.

   It is impossible that the same god is behind so different rules and laws.

2. G. Jesus said: My kingdom is not of this world. Muhammad said: Obey Allah and me. And fight wars for me and for us.

   It is impossible that the same god is behind so different rules and laws.

3. H. Jesus said: Let the one with no guilt throw the first stone.
4. The Quran says:

   016 24/2: “- - - flog each of them with a hundred stripes - - -”. And Islam often in reality ads: Stone the woman to death, but not the man. (Even though formally the Quran demands the same punishment normally). Or punish the woman who cannot bring 4 male witnesses to prove she really was raped.

It is impossible that the same god is behind so different moral, rules, and laws.

Then there is the love of your fellow human beings. This is very central in NT and in the Christian religion. Whereas in Islam the concept is nearly non-existent, except for love of your nearest family - and of course of Muhammad. (One practical effect was that slavery was abolished from the West. Another is the fact that most of the humanitarian organisations are in or originated in the West. This even though Islam stresses generosity - - - but NT stresses something much deeper. The Quran also tells that generosity to your closest family gives the same merit in Heaven as generosity to strangers - and then why help strangers instead of your wife or child or parents? Wereas in Christianity to help your closest family is such a matter of course, that it hardly gives much merit up there. This in addition to the mentioned and very fundamental difference: NT says: "Love them". The Quran says: "Be generous towards them - but not so as to empty your purse".

This difference of love is very fundamental. Too fundamental. The two religions simply are not from the same god.

POST SCRIPTUM FOR CHAPTER II/6:

Even in seemingly small things like this, there are so fundamental differences in the teachings, that it is impossible the same god made so different rules and law. This even more so, as these “small” things disclose huge differences in the fundaments of the religions and in the ways the gods reacts and thinks.

And there are many other basic differences.

Sorry Islam, but there is no way Allah can be identical to Yahweh/God. As said before: Not unless he is schizophrenic.

NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.

NB, NB, NB:

1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).

2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.

3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.

4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:

“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!

5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?

6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?

7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.

(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).

PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

Please inform all and everybody and all relevant fora - f. ex. Internet pages for debate or information - about the address http://www.1000mistakes.com. It is information that is urgently needed by many, not least by Muslims. No god made a book with so many mistakes and other wrongs - and if the Quran and Islam are made up by humans or dark forces, where are the followers of this inhumanly dark and brutal war religion heading for in a possible next life?