PART II, CHAPTER 1, Subchapter 3, Section 11 (= II-1-3-11)

MISTAKES AND ERRORS - MISTAKEN FACTS - IN THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH. A SHORTLIST OF SUCH MISTAKES AND ERRORS IN THE QURAN ARRANGED BY THEMES

Mostly one of each or similar kind for overview. 16 sections.

(The “complete” list is in Part II, Chapter 1, Subchapter 4, Sections 1 through 8.)

SOME CLEAR MISTAKES AND ERRORS ABOUT EARTH IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

(PART II, CHAPTERS 1 - 10 included subchapters = MEGA MISTAKES, MISTAKES, ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, INVALID LOGIC, ABROGATIONS, ETC. IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH. AT LEAST 100% PROOF FOR THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG - NO OMNISCIENT GOD MAKES MISTAKES)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.

Contents in this Section:

1. The Muslim Universe.
2. The creation of the Earth.
3. Details about the creation of the Earth and of making it liveable.

1. The Islamic universe.

According to the Quran the “everything” is like this:

On top of all - above the 7. heaven Allah has his residence.

Seven heavens above the Earth – one on top of the other.

The heavens are resting on the Earth by means of invisible pilars.

In between the heavens are the sun (?) and the moon.

The sun is a flat disk (if not it cannot be folded up like it does at the Day of Doom.

The 7 heavens contain Paradise - the higher heavens are for top Muslims.

The lower heaven is for "normal good" Muslims - split in at least 4 gardens = 4 qualities.

Under heavens, and fastened to the lowest one, are all the stars.

Allah often uses stars as shooting stars to chase away bad spirits spying on Heaven.

Under the heavens and stars are clouds – which Allah sometimes breaks to pieces (rain).

Under that the birds are kept up there by the will of Allah only.

On the Earth mountains are set down - or really dropped down.

The reason why Allah has set down mountains on Earth is to stabilize it.

According to Hadiths 2 of the rivers on Earth starts in Heaven - the Nile and Euprathes.

On the Earth also all kinds of beings live – created from clay or something or nothing.

Man - Adam - is cerated in 13 different ways if you count exactly and strictly.

All this is existing or living on our flat Earth.

There are 7 earths - according to Hadiths the others are under "our" Earth.

According to Hadiths Islam knows the names of the 7 earths.

The lower the earth the more Hell-like is the situation for its inhabitants, Hadiths tell.

And at the bottom Hell (?)

All this (possibly with the exception of Paradise and Hell) was created in 6 - or 8 - days.

Just like your teacher of geograpy told you? And who created this nonsence?

This following chapter is about the Earth:

2. The creation of the Earth:

Earth was – according to the Quran - created together with the heavens from something like smoke that Allah ordered to come together to one mass and then he split asunder. One part became our flat Earth (or really "earths" as there are 7 (65/12) – one on top of the other according to Hadiths) and the other became heaven, or actually the 7 material heavens that lies above Earth. (For more about this, see the previous chapter – about the creation of heaven).

***001 41/9-12: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm high above it - - -." See 21/31 above.

***001 41/9-12: “(Allah*) created the earth in two Days - - -. He set on the (earth) mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them (living beings*) nourishment in due proportions, in four Days - - - (and*) So he completed them (the sky*) as seven firmaments, in two Days - - -”. This makes 8 days - very inconsistent and very wrong compared to what the Quran which all other places says: 6 days. (Not to mention the 4.57 billion years science has found out). One more contradiction. We have been told we have to be very stupid who do not understand that the two first days are included in the next four. We admit that this is the only way Islam can try to “explain” this away - but this very clearly is not what the text says. (“The Message of the Quran” has “doctored” the Quran a little (at least in the Swedish translation) to make the “explanation” not quite so dumb - but only “not quite so”, as Yusuf Ali’s translation is very clear).

*002 13/3: “And it is He (Allah*) Who spread out the earth, - - -”. Similare things are said several places in the Quran - the earth is flat and spread out. It may be round or roundish, but like a pancake, not like a sphere. That was the geography of the Arabs at the time of Muhammad - though it hardly was the geography of any god. The shape of the Earth is not clearly expressed in the Quran – it was so obvious that it was flat, that it was no reason mentioning it. But each and every thing Earth is compared to, is to something flat – and science is not the slightest in doubt about that Muhammad’s Earth was flat. Muslim scholars tend to avoid the theme or to “explain” it in some way. (There is one translator to English that says “egg-shaped” – but it is a wrong translation (it talks about a nest of the ostrich on the flat ground, and the translator instead has “chosen” to talk about the egg in it). All the same he often is quoted by Muslims – some may honestly want to believe it, others know they are using “al-Taqiyya” – the lawful lie - that is an integrated part of Islam (but of none other of the big religions)). Also see 15/19 – 20/53 – 43/10 – 50/7 – 51/48 – 55/10 – 71/19 - 78/6 - 79/30 – 88/20 -91/6 which all compare Earth to something flat.

003 65/12: “Allah is He Who created seven Firmaments (wrong*) and of the earth a similar number”. Hadiths asy "one above The other". According to Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah al-Kisa’i the last part means 7 layers down in the Earth according to one “explanation”. But what the Quran really says is that there are 7 Earths – 7 flat Earths. No matter if you believe the Quran/Hadith or one of the “explanations” for this somewhat special geology/astronomy, the names of the “Earths” from top and down are:

1. Ramaka,
2. Khalada,
3. Arqa,
4. Haraba,
5. Maltham,
6. Sijjin,
7. Ajiba.

According to f. ex Al-Bukhari they are placed one above the other – easy as the Quran tells Earth is/are flat. The lower down, the more devilish life on the respective layer – and if you are a big enough sinner, you can fall down through them all at the Day of Doom. It is not necessary to say it is all rubbish.

Also see 2/131 – 7/61 - 7/67 – 7/104 – 7/121 – 10/3 – 26/16 – 26/23 – 26/47 – 26/77 – 26/98 – 26/109 – 26/127 – 26/145 – 27/8 – 27/44 – 32/2 – 37/87 – 38/87 – 39/74 – 41/9 – 43/46 – 45/36 - 56/80 – 59/16 – 68/52 – 69/43 – 81/27 – 81/29 – 83/6 and many more. All these places mention “the worlds” in plural – f. ex. “Lord of the Worlds (Allah*)” – and reference to the 7 worlds. But beware of a stumbling stone here: The Quran also in 1 – 2 cases uses the expression “the Worlds” in another connection – Muslim scholars believe it in that or those couple of cases refers to “man and Jinn” or “man and woman”. In western languages it is not possible to see the difference, because our nouns only have singular and plural. But in Arab (and some other languages) it is different: They have singular, dualis (= 2), and plural. We are informed that in all such cases where the original Arab text has plural, it refers to the 7 non-existing Earths (well, one exists, even though it is not flat). But if the Arab text any place has the noun "Worlds" in dualis, it just that place is referring to something else - like "man and jinn".

004 21/31a: “And We (Allah*) have set on the earth mountains - - -”. The mountains are not “set on” the Earth - they have without exception “grown up”, no matter whether they are a result of tectonic or volcanic activity (the only 2 ways to make mountains). Any god knew this, but Muhammad not. Does this indicate who the real composer of the Quran is?

We may add that we are informed that the actual verb that is used in the original Arab text do not really mean “set down” but “drop down” and is the same verb that is used when one f. ex. is dropping an anchor. Mountains definitely are not dropped down.Also see 31/10 and 41/9-12.

*005 21/31b: “And We (Allah*) have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them - - -”. Some experts on Islam and the Quran say this refers to that the disk that is the Earth (in the Quran the Earth is flat, but perhaps a round disk) might shake and become unstable, and because of this may slip away or tip around and drop everything - included humanity - off the Earth.

We refer to some Muslim scholars: Jalalan, (p. 437), Baydawi (p. 686), Tabari (p.589), and Zamakhshari (part 4, p. 381): They all tell that “if it was not for these unshakeable (!!*) mountains, the earth would slip away.”(!!!*) And Jalalan, Baydawi, and Zamakhshari all say that “- - - He (Allah*) placed unshakeable mountains (not more so then that they shake during earthquakes*) on Earth lest it tilts with people.” This obviously is what the Quran really meant, and this even more obviously was the meaning Muhammad told his followers, as it is what the learned Muslim scholars were sure was the truth.

But this “truth” is so ridiculous, that let us go on to the alternative explanation – the one that is in vogue in Islam now that they know the original “truth” was wrong: That the mountains hinder earth-quakes.

That is not correct. Well, it is so far from the truth, that it is not even wrong - it is sometimes the opposite of the truth:

1. According to f. ex. heavyweights like “New Scientist” and “Nature” mountains sometimes can CAUSE earthquakes: Variations in the amount of water (= weight) in big mountain lakes, dams, or glaciers sometimes causes minor and medium earthquakes. The same go for heavy snow-falls in the mountains sometimes. Also when snow falls in the mountains, but no or little snow lower down (there it falls as rain that runs away) and of course nothing on the bottom of the sea, the changed weight equilibrium may cause earthquakes (there are more earthquakes in the north during winter than during summer).
2. It is well known today that mountains are made because of tectonic activity (that always causes earthquakes - though sometimes too feeble for human so feel) or volcanic activity that often causes earthquakes. Those are the only two ways by which mountains are made. That means that mountains in reality are made by earthquakes (or actually by the same mechanisms that make most earthquakes), it does not hinder such quakes. Any god had known this, but Muhammad not - this is new knowledge for humans. Then who composed the Quran?
3. Also volcanism is closely connected to earth quakes. Volcanism also in many cases is connected to tectonic activity - there thus are connections between the two mechanisms for mountain building - and for earthquakes. Techtonic activity makes it easier for lava to break through to the suraface - as seen f. ex. in "the Ring of Fire" around the Pasific.

Also see 15/19 – 16/15 – 31/10 – 41/10

*005 21/31c: “And We (Allah*) have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them - - -”. The Quran indicates that the mountains are so big (compared to the Earth) that they are able to stabilize Earth. But compared to Earth mountains only are miniscule warths and hardly even that. Any god had known - Muhammad not. Who composed the Quran?

3. Details about the creation of Earth and of making it habitable:

006 78/7: “(Allah made*) the mountains as pegs - - -“. Some Muslims say: Hip, hurray – here is a proof for Muhammad and the Quran: The science talks about the “roots” of the mountains – the mountains are like pegs! How could Muhammad know?!" But mountain “roots” are not like pegs, but like bulges or distorted sheets (as mountains and mountain chains often are long and narrow – look at the Rocky Mountains – Andes chain f. ex.) or as distorted hemisphere. There exist deep pegs – or really sheets – pointing far down into the mantel (melted stone), but not in connection to mountains or mountain ranges really, though they may co-exist: They exist some places where large pieces of the Earth’s crust – tectonic plates – are forced downwards because of movements of the crust (tectonic movement). But that has nothing to do with mountains (even though mountains may be secondary results of the movement) – it is something entirely different.

*007 21/31c: “- - - and We (Allah) have made therein (in the mountains*) broad highways (between the mountains) - - -”. We honestly did not know Allah - or any other god - built highways. And here we could make a cheap joke (tell your congress-men (or similar) to ask Allah build your roads, instead of spending all that tax money on it). But we refrain from it.

Well, it would be possible for Muhammad to say - true or not true - that Allah showed the first travellers where to travel. But in no case Allah built the roads - or highways. Unless Islam really proves he did - but Islam never proves, they only tell or state or claim, even though they demand proofs from everyone else. Or they say it is said so in the Quran, and that proves it. But a book with that many mistakes has little value as a proof - and besides it is logically impossible to use the Quran to prove the Quran, as circular proofs are without value.

008 27/61: “(Allah*) made rivers in its (the Earth’s) midst - - -”. Wrong. The Quran believed the Earth was flat, and then there is a midst. But the Earth is a sphere, and the surface of a sphere has no midst.

009 39/5: “He (Allah*) created the heavens (plural and wrong) and the earth in true (proportions)”. The Earth f. ex. is flat - like a disk - in the Quran. And 7 heavens. Wrong. And just not “in true proportions”.

00a 55/17: “He (Allah*) is the Lord of the two Easts and the two Wests.” This cryptic sentence means the northmost and the southmost point of the sun during a year (the equinoxes) – in east and west. (We mention this because some Muslims try to find ways to use this sentence to "prove" that the Quran says the Earth is globular.)

011 18/90: “- - - he came to the rising of the sun - - -”. It is not physically possible to come to the place where the sun rises from the Earth as the Quran indicates, because it does not rise from the Earth - and if it had, both Alexander (this part of surah 18 is about Alexander the Great) and the Earth had been rather fried. Also see 18/86a, b, and c.

012 16/48b: “- - - Allah’s creations, (even) among (inanimate) things - how their very shadows turn round, from right to left - - -“. Wrong: This is not a general law – it only is true on the northern hemisphere. On the southern it is from left to right – and Islam pretends to be a universal religion. Even a mentally retarded god had known this – but Muhammad of course not. Who made the Quran?

*013 30/48: “- - - then does He (Allah*) spread them (the clouds*) in the sky as he wills, and break them into fragments, until thou seest raindrops issue from the midst thereof - - -”. It is not possible to get it more wrong than this. What happens is not that the clouds break apart to raindrops, but straight opposite: That droplets come together to form drops. No further comments. But ANY god had known better. Also see 16/65 – 25/49 – 30/24 – 36/33 – 50/11.

014 16/65a: “And Allah sends down rain from the skies, and gives therewith life to the earth after its death: - - -”. If rain is all it takes to make the earth flourish, it was not dead before the shower - there was lots of live seeds and may be roots.

015 16/65b: “And Allah sends down rain from the skies, and gives therewith life to the earth after its death: verily in this is a Sign for those who listen.” See 16/65a just above. It is some sign to use an invalid proof. The Quran often talks about Signs that shall document or prove Allah. The sorry thing is that each and every one of them, with the possible exception of some taken from the Bible, are without any value as proof for a god, and not one single proves anything about the existence of Allah. The two most frequent reasons are that they in reality are just statements taken from thin air, or they build on statements that are not proved. See separate chapter about this.

016 29/63: “And if indeed thou ask them (non-Muslims*) who it is that sends down rain from the sky - - - they will certainly reply,’ Allah’”. Wrong. If they at all had mentioned a god, they had mentioned their own god – or the one of them that has to do with rain.

00b 22/65: Has Muhammad Ali made an “al-Taqiyya” (lawful lie) here? He says that Allah “withholds the sky (rain) from falling on the earth”. But according to “The Message of the Quran” the Arab text says that Allah withholds the heaven from falling down on Earth. Quite a scientific mistake in case. And also a dishonesty from Yusuf Ali in case if he changed the meaning from "the sky" to "rain".

017 56/70: “- - - We (Allah*) could make it (all rain*) salt - - -”. Not without changing both natural and physical laws. Salt simply does not evaporate, and then as simply cannot rain down. If Islam insists it is true, they will have to prove it - words are cheap. (There is one extra comment here though: Droplets blown up from the sea may dry before they reach the sea again, and micro particles of salt may drift in the wind. But this effect is too small to give salty rain in any quantity.)

018 11/44: “O, earth swallow up thy water - - -“. This is from the big flood of Noah. For Earth to swallow that much water is physically impossible. If the flood was local like some Muslims like to tell, the water could go to the sea. But the fact that the Quran tells the ark ended at Mt. al-Judi (earlier Mt. Qardu according to Muhammad Asad: “The Message of the Quran”) in Syria, indicates that it was something really big – the water cannot reach high up on a tall mountain in Syria, unless the water level is roughly the same all over the world. It was and is impossible for Earth to swallow that amount of water.

019 31/29: “- - - Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night - - -.” This is one of the many natural phenomena Muhammad hijacked without any proof or documentation. It is totally void of any value as a proof for Allah unless it is proved that it really is Allah that spins the Earth in the light from the sun – the real reason for the alternation of day and night. Without such proofs, this just is another number of cheap, valueless words that anyone can use free of charge for his own god or gods. Also see 3/27 – 24/44 -25/62 – 31/29 – 35/12 – 39/5 – 40/61 – 41/37 – 45/5 57/6.

020 36/4c: “- - - each (night and day*) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).” Wrong. Night and day are constants - they just seem to move because Earth revolves in the sunshine. Any physicist will laugh from this – night has a fixed position determined by the sun, and only seems to move because of the spin of the Earth. It has not the faintest similarity to an orbit. Any god knows this.

It is a nice extra touch to add that they swim along in orbits “according to Law”.

021 91/4: “By the Night as it conceals it (the sun*)”. The night does not conceal the sun - there is night because the Earth makes a shade. It is 180 degrees different from what Muhammad told: There is night not because the night conceals the sun, but because Earth does so. Any god knew that. Besides: The night simply is lack of sunlight – it is physically impossible for the night to conceal the sun. Any god had known that, too. Then who made the Quran? Also see 7/54 – 13/3 – 92/1.

**022 45/5: “And the alternation of the Night and Day - - - are Signs for those who are wise”. Not unless Islam proves it is Allah who alternates night and day. They may say that Allah made the physical laws - but then they will have to prove that - - - “strong claims demand strong proofs and words are cheap”. And of course they will have to compete with all other religions trying to say and do the same, with the same cheap words. Words are cheap as long as you do not have to prove them - and very little in the Quran is proved.

***In Islam the educated ones in reality knows nothing is proved (for humans to prove a god is impossible - only a god can do that, and Allah never proved anything, and Muhammad only gave fast-talk, in spite of serious requests). The defence is that “any intelligent person can see from the texts in the Quran that they have to be sent down by an omniscient god” (!!). All the mistakes and all the invalid “proofs” etc. disapprove this. The second line of defence is that it is “primitive” thinking to have to rely on proofs!!! (F. ex. in “The Message of the Quran” that on top of all is “certified” by a top university - Al-Ahzar in Cairo). The reality is the 180-degree opposite: It is primitive - and naïve - thinking to accept so - and so often - obviously wrong and unlikely statements without some sorts of proofs.

**023 36/40: “- - - nor can the Night outstrip (be longer than*) the Day - - -”. Wrong. At high latitudes the night always are longer than the days in winter. A little past the Arctic Circles (a little past because of refraction – bending of light in the atmosphere) the night even lasts 24 hours a day for a shorter or longer time each year – for how long depends on the latitude. The Quran has a strong tendency to pick natural phenomena and tell they prove or are signs for Allah, without first proving that Allah really is the reason for them. For one thing such “proofs” are entirely invalid as they only rests on unproven claims. For another: It each time comes to our minds that (trying) to use invalid statements and “proofs” is a hallmark for cheats and swindlers. And for an ironic third: Sometimes the “proofs” even turns out to be really laughingly wrong - in a book claiming to come from an omniscient god.

00c 6/96: “He (Allah*) makes the night for rest and tranquillity - - -“. One more natural phenomenon (see 36/40b just above) that Muhammad claimed for his god – and as always without a single proof. But the main thing just here is that sleep is not a prerequisite for life – on the contrary sleep is an adoptions made by life to the fact that it is dark parts of the time. Simply wrong.

024 32/7: “He (Allah*) Who made everything which He created most Good - - -“. Wrong. We could have had better resistance concerning illnesses, our bodies could have been able to make more of the vitamins themselves, our brain could have been better – f.ex. ability to think about 2-3 things at a time, or learning more easily – just to mention a few points. Good, but far from most good.

NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.

NB, NB, NB:

1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).

2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.

3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.

4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:

“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!

5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?

6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?

7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.

(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).

PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.