There are these Sections to this subchapter - the 5 Mega Mistakes - (there should be more sections, as the Quran has many more kinds of mistakes and errors, but these samples should be enough to show what it is about):
(To find "all" the mistaken facts that lead up to Mega Mistake 1, read the Subchapter 3, the 16 Sections about mistaken facts in the Quran, arranged by themes. And to find "all" the mistakes leading up to this Maga Mistake, read the complete Part II with all its Chapters, Subchapters, and Sections (except II-8-1, II-8-2, and II-9 which leads up to Mega Mistake 2.)
Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
(At some or all points Muslims will protest extra wildly. And not educated Muslims (and some educated ones obeying the rules for al-Taqiyya, the lowful lie) will protest even more wildly at the point with "mistakes accepted by Muslim Scholars". It is a catastrophe for Islam to admit contradictions in the Quran, as the lack of contradictions is one of the few (invalid) claimed “proofs” for that Allah sent down that book, and one of the few (but as invalid) claimed "proofs" for the very existence of Allah. The same goes for not to find Muhammad in the Bible (as that is about the only claimed “proof” they have for Muhammad's divine connection.) But the claims are so obviously wrong, the arguments so obviously twisted and the logic so obviously invalid, that there is no doubt – unless Islam’s give us some real proofs). For specifications/verses see the separate chapters.
Especially all the mistaken facts, the twisted arguments, the invalid logic, the contradictions, and the logically invalid (sometimes even wrong) "signs" and "proofs" are easy to find for anybody with a little knowledge + being able to think, not only to absorb what others claim. Even one or a few mistakes in the Quran had been destroying for the claim that the Quran is made by an omniscient god and copy of a revered "Mother Book" book in Allah's personal heaven and home. But there is not one or a few mistakes, but a massive number, and far too many of them are impossible to find even hopeless "explanations" for - a few even are accepted by Muslim scholars as mistakes. No omniscient god makes this kind of and this number of mistakes - this book is not made by an omniscient or omnipotent god. And what is then Islam?
Yes, what is Islam if their only foundation – a book with massive numbers of mistakes and contradictions, a self-proclaimed prophet that in reality was not a real prophet, and a never proved (omniscient) god - is untrue? Superstition.
This first Mega Mistake alone – yes, even many of the separate parts of it alone – proves 100%, not to say 150% sure that the Quran is not made by any omniscient and omnipotent god – yes, not by any god at all, as no god makes mistakes, not to mention this number of and this kinds of mistaken facts and contradictions. He also would not need to use twisted arguments, not to mention that he – or she – would not use invalid logic or invalid “signs” (in the Quran another word for indication or proof) and “proofs” – if not for other reasons, then because he knew he would be found out sooner or later and loose credibility.
The fact that many of the mistakes also are in accordance with old and wrong Greek and Persian science – the “facts” one believed in in Arabia at the time of Muhammad – in addition proves that the Quran is made by a person (or persons) living in that area at the time of Muhammad. No god would be bound by wrong science from Arabia, Earth, around 610 – 632 AD. (See Mega Mistake 4).
And to round off the question about who made the Quran: If there after all were some supernatural powers behind the Quran, the book and especially the surahs from Medina proves absolutely and indisputably that it was not made by good powers – those surahs are by far too immoral, too bloody, and too inhuman, and in addition there is the fact that Muhammad was of the opinion that he would break even his oats if that made a better result. No good powers – and no good god – have such points of view. If there was a supernatural power involved, it was a dark one – f. ex. Iblis (the Muslim devil) in disguise, saying a lot of nice things, but demanding blood and immoral and inhumanities. Demands – and deeds – always are more reliable than cheap words. And Muhammad would be unable to see the difference between the arch angel Gabriel and the devil dressed up like Gabriel.
Some will say there only are 4 Mega Mistakes in the Quran, as also the contradictions are mistakes and belong unser "Mega Mistake 1". But after thinking it over for a long time, we agree with the ones saying that the contradictions are so special a category of mistakes, that they make up their own Mega Mistake, especially as Islam uses the wrong claim that there are no contradictions so heavily for a (in any case invalid - clever persons can make a book without contradictions) proof for Allah and for a connection between Allah and Muhammad. No omniscient god contracicts himself like in the Quran. Then who made the Quran? Not an omniscient god at least.
When it comes to contradictions with the Bible, the reason why they count heavily is this:
Muhammad claimed he was the last in a long succession of prophets for the one and only and omniscient god. But a god do not tell different ideas about the same thing to his different prophets - he tells the same about what is to be told about this and this to each and every of them who need to know about it. This you clearly see if you read the prophets in the Bible (the only prophets in the claimed succession where some kind of documentation exists) - there are stright lines from one prophet to the next and the next and the next. Then along comes Muhammad with totally different stories, not to mention totally different fundamental ways of thinking and of ethics, moral (and no empathy - like f. ex. Jesus had). And one must here rememder that science has proved that Islam's many claims about falsifications in the Bible are wrong - and the very best proof for that is the fact that if there had existed even one single proof for falsification, Islam had screamed to holy heaven about it. Nobody had heard such a scream yet - not even after 1400 years.
All the contradictions - yes, every single one of them - prove 110% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god.
For samples see Part II, Chapter 8, Subchapter 1 and 2 + Part II, Chapter 9 + the chapter about contradictions with the Bible which will be added in 2010 AD.
(For details see the chaptera about Muhammad in Part XI). He is FAR from the saint-like semi-god many Muslims talk about. Thief/robber, extorter, murderer (he is said to have assassinated or murdered at least 26 opponents - Ibn Ishaq names 10 of them), and mass murderer (Khaybar alone some 700), terrorist (see f. ex. all his murdering, enslaving, torture, etc.), highwayman with some 60 raids mainly for money and slaves (Ibn Ishaq names 43 raids + the wars, mostly to steal/rob, enslave and kill - a number of them lead by Muhammad personally - and there were some more (see separate chapter)) from 622 AD till he grows strong enough to become a warlord somewhere around 627 and later. (Sources: Muhammad Ibn Ishaq: "The life of Muhammad", written around 750 AD at the court of the caliph in Bagdad, Hadits and the Quran), rapist – he even stated that to rape female prisoners/slaves was "good and lawful", and personally raped at least Raihana bint Amr and Safijja bint Huayay (in both cases just after he had murdered and/or enslaved their whole families), etc. Not to mention his lust for power - just look at how he glues himself to the god and to the religion, his main platforms of power.
But most essential in this case - how reliable the Quran is - are the facts that this morally retarded man was a convinced believer in using lies when they would give better results than the truth: He EVEN institutionalized - and used himself - "al-Taqiyya" (the lawful lie) and "Kitman" (the lawful half-truth) and he himself said (and practiced himself at least one time according to Al-Bukhari) he would break even an oath if he afterwards found that would give better results. All this mainly according to Hadiths after Al-Bukhari and Muslim, but also to the Quran.
And he was a betrayer. See f. ex. the unarmed peace delegation from Khaibar that he had guaranteed a safe return - he murdered 29 of the 30 (one got away). His slogan even was: "War is betrayal" or "War is deceit". (Ibn Ishaq and Hadiths).
Further some of the verses he claimed came from Allah, were very convenient for him personally - f. ex. the places where Allah helped him with family affairs (in a book pretending to be made in heaven aeons before Muhammad), surah 111 and other places.
Also there are a number of verses where it is clear it is Muhammad who is talking. How come in a book claimed to be created eons before Muhammad was botn?
And not least: There are a number of verses in the Quran where Muhammad knew he was lying – f. ex. when he told his followers that the reason why he was unable to make miracles, was that miracles would not impress anyone and make them Muslims anyhow. (See Mega Mistake 4).
How great is the chance that such a man told the truth, only the truth, and the full truth? Hardly any. But this man's words is the one and only foundation for Islam (that is the reason why it is so dangerous to say anything negative about Muhammad, and that is why Islam are pushing and pushing for world-wide prohibition against "insulting other religions' prophets" - they cannot afford the slightest doubt about his words and deeds, because then Islam may collapse). A very unreliable witness.
This Mega Mistake and the historical facts about the real Muhammad behind it – taken from the most reliable sources Islam has: The Quran, Ibn Ishaq, and Hadiths – proves 100% that Muhammad was not a reliable person. It also proves that he was not a good man – far too inhuman, too bloody - - - and willing to lie/break his oath even - and some of the verses he told, he simply knew were untrue (f. ex. reasons why he/Allah could not make miracles).AND WHAT THIS MAN SAID AND DID IS THE ONLY BASIS FOR ISLAM. THERE IS NOTHING – NOTHING – ELSE. NOT ONE SINGLE VALID PROOF FOR ALLAH, NOT ONE SINGLE VALID PROOF FOR THE QURAN BEING TRUE, NOT ONE SINGLE PROOF FOR MUHAMMAD’S CONNECTION TO A GOD – NOT TO MENTION TO A GOOD GOD.
Mega Mistake 3 simply is that all Islam only - only - is built on the words that even all the Muslim sourses that Islam tells are the most reliable ones, indirectly but very clearly say was a very unreliable man - but likeing power, women and riches (at least for bribes, but also for himself - in spite of what Muslims claim, Islamic sources tell Muhammad was rich when he died (he only let his religion inherit his possessions, not his family)).
NO PROOF, NO DOCUMENTATION, NO NOTHING – ONLY DEMANDS FOR AND GLORIFICATION OF BLIND BELIEF. BLIND BELIEF IN A MAN USING MANY OF THE HALLMARKS OF A CHEAT AND A DECEIVER - - - AND A MAN ADVISING HIS FOLLOWERS THAT IF A BROKEN OATH WERE BETTER FOR YOU OR FOR ISLAM, YOU SHOULD BREAK EVEN AN OATH.
THIS MAN AND HIS TALES IS THE ONLY THING ISLAM IS BUILT ON.
(f. ex. the completely wrong astronomy mentioned above and in Part II, Chapters 1-3-10 and 1-3-11.) - a fact Muslims NEVER mention. No omniscient god is bound by wrong science in a small piece of Earth around 630 AD. But Muhammad was. No god made these mistakes.
But the mentioned fact that the mistakes are in accordance with the science of that time, makes it clear that the mistakes - and hence the book - were made by one or more humans living at the time of Muhammad. Most likely by Muhammad himself.
No god would have to use wrong “science” from a tiny part of Earth, which is not even a tiny part of the Universe, and even more so: He would not have to use the “science” man believed in in that tiny area at a certain time that happened to be the time of Muhammad. Also this fact alone proves 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god – it is made by one or more humans with what knowledge humans had at the time of Muhammad in Arabia. Well, there is one alternative: That some dark forces made it and gave it to Muhammad – f. ex. the Devil disguised like Gabriel (Muhammad would not have a chance to know the difference). All the blood and inhumanity and even lies in the surahs from Medina may point in this direction, but personally we do not believe it – not even a devil would make so many mistakes, etc., if not for other reasons, then because he had to know he would be found out sooner or later and lose his power over his followers.
If there after all were some supernatural powers behind the Quran, the book and especially the surahs from Medina proves absolutely and indisputably that it was not made by a good god or by good powers – those surahs are by far too unjust, too bloody, and too inhuman, and in addition there is the fact that Muhammad was of the opinion that he would break even his oats if that made a better result. No good powers – and no good god – have such points of view. If there was a supernatural power involved, it was a dark one – f. ex. Iblis (the Muslim devil) in disguise).
Conclution: No god is limited to the mistaken "science" of a small and primitive area during a primitive time in a primitive society on a backward planet in an obscure corner of a medium galaxy drifting in the Universe among billions of others. No god would ever make his religion on basis of wrong science (even from a special time and place on Earth) and other mistakes that would be found out sooner or later. (But Muhammad would have to do with such wrong information if he or others around him made up the religion.)
F. ex. all the places in the Quran where Muhammad has to defend himself against questions for miracles proving Allah or his own connection to Allah, and tells that the reason for no miracles, is that it anyhow will make no-one believe.
As mentioned before Muhammad's standard answer was that Allah did not want to send miracles, because no-one would come to believe because of that anyhow. This answer is obviously wrong - one or two or three real miracles had made a large part of the ones far and wide around, believing Muslims in hours and days. Muhammad was an intelligent man and also he knew and understood people - he knew this argument was a lie. Muhammad also told about miracles that made pagans Muslims - f. ex. Pharaoh Ramses II's wizzards. He also knew about Jesus and the effects of his miracles. Which proves 100% to anyone with some knowledge of psychology and of human nature and ways of behaving, that Muhammad knew very well that at least some parts of what he told Allah had said, were lies.
This Mega Mistake is strengthened by Muhammad's institutionalizing of al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) plus Muhammad's clear statements that deceit is permitted and even breaking of oaths is adviseable if dishonesty gives better result than honesty. For one thing one cannot rely on that such an unreliable man had told the full truth and only the truth. But worse: No omnipotent god needs lies - and no omniscient god would ever use lies, because he knew his followers would look through the lies sooner or later and loose conficence in him.
No omniscient or omnipotent god needs to rely on lies.
Each of these 5 mega mistakes separately - and often the seperate parts alone - prove 100% that something is seriously wrong with the Quran, with Muhammad and with Islam. Any person with some intelligence and knowledge will be able to see the mistakes in the Quran (and in the Hadiths - f. ex. the Quran proves indirectly, but absolutely that all the claimed miracles connected to Muhammad you find in Hadith, are made up legends/fairy tales. Islam also it says that the only miracle Muhammad performed, was the Quran, and thus admits that the “miracles" found in the Hadiths are fairy tales). No intelligent person is able to believe that there is an omniscient god behind Islam, after a thorough study of the Quran - not unless he or she so strongly has to believe, or so strongly wish to believe, or is so brainwashed that facts are of no interest.
And a small extra point: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him.
I. The mistakes proves 100% and beyond ANY doubt that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god. No omniscient god f. ex. makes even one mistake - or use invalid or even wrong “signs” or “proofs” – not to mention make mistakes etc. by the hundreds.
II. Also all the contradictions prove 100% and beyond ANY doubt that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god. No omniscient god f. ex. makes even one contradiction - or have to abrogate himself after traying and failing, or after new information or a change of mind to something more bloody - not to mention contradictiond etc. by the hundreds.
III. The teachings (not always the words because there often is a difference between nice words and strong demands in the Quran, but the real teachings) and life of Muhammad, especially after 622 AD, proves beyond ANY doubt that he was not the saintly and honest man Muslims like to tell about. He was morally retarded – stealing/robbing, rape, slavery, murdering opponents and more essential here: A man that believed in lying (breaking even of oaths) and betrayal, when that gave better results for himself/his platform of power (Islam) than honesty, is not reliable. (many scientists says he may have been ok until he started as a highwayman in 622 AD, but that the money and the power destroyed him morally, or made black sides of his personality emerge) This point alone does not prove that he did lie about Allah, Islam and himself, but seen together with other points – f. ex. point III below – it proves that in addition to his (Muhammad’s) believing in lying, etc., he did practice lying himself. How much more did he then lie about in the Quran in addition to what we see f. ex. in Mega Mistake 5? Perhaps he lied about his religion to gain or secure power?
IV. The use of obviously wrong arguments – arguments any intelligent person knew were lies – prove beyond ANY doubt that Muhammad knew he was lying at least some places in the Quran (in addition to the lies he used according to Hadiths in other connections). A man that believed in lying (breaking even of oaths) and betrayal, when that gave better results for himself/his platform of power (Islam) than honesty, is not reliable. How many more surahs and verses did he lie about? (See f. ex. Al-Taqiyya)?
V. There also is one more small (?), but interesting point: A prophet is a person with the gift of making prophesies. Muhammad did not have that gift, and did not even once pretend or claim in the Quran that he had it. (There are a few times when what he said about the future came true, and because of this were remembered – whereas what he said that did not come true, long since is forgotten, like normal. But no-one included Muhammad himself claimed that they were prophesies when they were said. And as already said: Muhammad never even claimed or pretended to have such a gift.) And as Muhammad was unable to make prophesies, he in reality was no prophet – may be a messenger or an apostle (though for whom?) - but no prophet. He only “borrowed” an imposing and impressing title.
VI. All the mistakes that are in accordance with the (wrong) science of Arabia (or really its neighbors’) around 630 AD, also proves beyond ANY doubt that the book is not made by an omniscient god – no omniscient god is bound to use the wrong science of a small area on Earth and at a specific period of time – even a period of time with very primitive science.
There is no way around the fact that the Quran itself proves 100% and beyond any doubt that something is seriously wrong with the Quran – and with Muhammad – and hence with Islam.
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
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