1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 83

 

SURAH 83: AL-MUTAFFIFIN (The Dealers in Fraud)

(622 AD. Perhaps the last Surah in Mecca)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 83/1a: "Woe to those that deals in fraud - - -". What then to Muslims if the Quran simply is fraud? - it at least is not from a god.

003 83/5b: "- - - the Lord (Allah*) of the worlds". Similar often claimed, but never proved - not even Allah's existence is proved.

004 83/7a: "- - - surely - - -". See f.x. 81/19a and 2/2b above.

005 82/7ca: "- - - wicked - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

006 83/7d: "- - - sijjin - - -". This is a made up word which no-one really knows the meaning of. It may come from "sijn" (prison) and may be the name or the description of the register(YA6013). But it also may mean (translated from Swedish) "that which lasts" (A83/2). But both these just are educated guessing. In the English 2008 edition after Muhammad Asad, they have "solved" the whole problem by omitting the word entirely and translated it with: "- - - in a mode inescapable." Well, according to Islam the language in the Quran is simple and impossible not to understand. But also see 87/9 below.

007 83/9: "(There is) a Register (fully) inscribed". Once more: Why does an omniscient god need a Register?

008 83/12a: "- - - none can deny it (the Day of Doom*) - - -". As it is outside the human sphere of living, denial is not possible, even though skepticism may be strong as to if the Quran's description is correct. But also no proof for it has ever been produced, and as proof would be easy for a god, and very efficient for getting more followers (in spite of the Quran's claims about this), this is strange.

009 83/12b: "- - - the Transgressor beyond bonds - - -". One of Muhammad's many distaste - or stronger - inducing names for non-Muslims.

010 83/13a: “- - - Our (Allah’s*) Signs - - -.” There exists no sign clearly from Allah, neither in the Quran, nor anywhere else. See 2/39b and 2/99.

011 83/13c: "- - - he (a skeptic*) says (to Muhammad*), 'Tales of the - - -". How could this reliably be written in the claimed "Mother Book" (of which the Quran is a copy according to Muhammad) billions of years before it was said or happened?

012 83/13d: "Tales of the ancients!" Nearly nothing in the Quran is original stuff - it is "borrowed" from other religions - mainly the two from the Bible, old Persian pagan religion and old Arab pagan religion (even the god is the main pagan Arab god, al-Lah, also named to Allah and perhaps named Hubal (it is unclear if this was another name for Allah - Hubal was the name of the statue of the god, but it may have represented al-Lah/Allah), and from old legends, folklore and even fairy tales - f.x. Luqman - but the tales were often twisted some to fit the new religion. There was good reason for the skeptics to not claim, but state that most of it just was "tales of the ancients". And strangely: All those tales were from in or around Arabia and known in Arabia at that time, even though the claimed god claimed to be an old god working all over the world and to all times. Even so he only found tales worthy his book in the Arab area and neighborhood and stories known there at that time.

013 83/14: "- - - the (ill) which they (non-Muslims*) do - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

014 83/15a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 2/2b and 81/19a above.

015 83/15b: "- - - from (the Light of) their (here non-Muslims*) Lord (Allah*), that Day, will they be veiled." One thing is that Allah is not the lord of non-Muslims, at least not if they believe in another and existing god (f.x. Yahweh, who exists if the Bible and/or the Quran speaks the truth - though the Quran wrongly mixes him up with Allah), and even more so if Allah is a made up god or some dark forces pretending to be a god. But the main thing just here, is that here is indicated the Quran; and a book full of mistakes, etc., and not from a god, does not mean much light.

016 83/16: "- - - they (non-Muslims*) will enter the Fire of Hell". See 3/77b above.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

017 83/17: "- - - (reality) - - -". See f.x. 81/19a above.

018 83/18a: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 81/19a above.

019 83/18b: "- - - the Record of the Righteous - - -". Even once more as the Quran never addresses this question: Why does an omniscient god need a record?

020 83/18c: "- - - the Righteous - - -" Muslims.

021 83/18d: "- - - Righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

022 83/18f: (YA6019): “- - - 'illiyin - - -.” Literally this word means “the High Place”, but what does it mean here? One guess is “The Place where is kept the Register of the Righteous”. But it only is an “educated guess”. (And why does an omniscient god need a register? - at least he has a PC? - - - if his brain is not good enough.)

023 83/18g: (A83/5) (translated from Swedish): "- - - 'illiyin - - - is said to be plural of ''illi' or 'illiyyah' (height or elevated) or perhaps a plural without singular. In any case it is derived from the verb ''ala' which means 'to be (or become) high', or figuratively 'sublime' or 'elevated'. The form 'illiyin (or 'illiyyun'*) therefore may implicate approximately 'sublimely elevated'". Easy - and easy to understand - language in the Quran? PS: The 2008 English edition of Muhammad Asad has "jumped over" the whole problem, by dropping the word and simply writing "in a mode most lofty". To skip something is an easy way to try to hide a problem.

024 83/18-21: “Nay, verily (though this definitely is no proved verity/truth*), the Record of the Righteous is (preserved) in ‘illiyin. And what will explain to thee what ‘illiyin is? (There is a Register (fully) inscribed, to which bear witness those nearest (to Allah).” The omniscient god Allah needs witnesses – and he is not more advanced and omniscient than that everything has to be written down in a good, old-fashioned book.

025 83/21: "- - - witness - - -". Why does a claimed omniscient god need witnesses?

026 83/22b: "- - - the Righteous - - -" Muslims.

027 83/22c: "- - - Righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

028 83/22d: "- - - in Bliss". Here: In Paradise. See 11/9f above.

029 83/23: "On Thrones (of Dignity) - - -". In The Quran's and Islam's Paradise - see 10/9f above. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god; their paradises are too different.

030 83/25: "- - - Wine - - -". Wine used to be very popular in the old Arabia. Actually alcohol and sex were "the two delightful things". And just these "two delightful things" Muhammad reintroduces in the Muslims' Paradise: Lots of women plus lots of wine. Is that a co-incidence? (at least he reintroduces it for men - women may have to be starved at least for one of the "delightful things", but women do not count much in the Quran.)

031 83/27b: (YA6026): "Tasnim literally indicates height, fullness, opulence. Here it is the name of a heavenly Fountain - - -". This is one explanation of the word. Also see 83/27a just above and 83/27c just below.

032 83/28: "- - - Nearest to Allah." Very few - really very few - of some billions through the times, can be nearest to Allah.

033 83/29b: "- - - sin - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exist. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

034 83/32: "Behold, these (here the Muslims*) are the people truly astray". If the Quran is not from a god or/and contains wrong information, the claims were right.

035 83/34a: "But on this Day the Believers (Muslims*) will laugh at the Unbelievers (going to Hell*) - - -". As said before; empathy - or for that case sympathy or compassion - does not exist in the Quran, at least not concerning non-Muslims.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

036 83/34d: "- - - this Day the Believers will laugh - - -". Only if Allah exists, and if the Quran in addition has told the full truth and only the truth.

037 83/34e: "- - - this Day the Believers will laugh at the Unbelievers - - -". One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god: NT makes it pretty clear that that not even the god laughs at lost souls. And good Christians feel compassion, but not so good Muslims it seems. This - compassion and the weight laying of this - is a VERY telling difference between the two religions. And between the two claimed gods.

038 83/35: "On Thrones (of Dignity) - - -". See 10/9f above.

9062 + 38 = 9100 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".