1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 75

 

SURAH 75: AL-QIYAMAH (The Resurrection)

(Mecca, 611 - 616 AD)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 75/1a: "I (Allah*) call to witness - - -". Witness/proof clearly counted for Muhammad - but he never was able to prove anything of any essence concerning his new religion himself.

003 75/1aa: "I do call to witness - - -". Here it is likely it is Muhammad who is speaking. But how can he talk in a book made before the world was created? Something is seriously wrong.

004 75/2a: "And I (Muhammad*) do call to witness - - -". See 75/1 just above.

005 75/2c: "- - - (- - - Evil))". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

006 75/3+4: "Does man think that We (Allah*) cannot assemble his bones? Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers". This has to do with the claimed resurrection. Unlike many religions which tell the resurrection of the spirit/soul, the Quran claims that the body also is resurrected (necessary for Muhammad as nearly all pleasures in his Paradise are bodily pleasures). Allah assembled all the atoms, molecules and juices you had been made from, and put it back to remake your complete body and mind - but as a young person (nothing is said about children or f.x. mentally retarded ones on these points). This was - and is - a bit difficult for non-Muslims to believe - especially as a free mind - or soul - is a much more attractive idea.

##007 75/5: "- - - to do wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

008 75/12a: "Before thy (humans'/Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) (alone), that Day will be the place of rest". Contradicted by the Bible, which says this day will be ruled by Yahweh, not by Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

#####009 75/14: "- - - evidence - - -". Why does an omniscient, predestining god need evidence? Of course one may say that it is to show others, but that only is necessary if the others do not trust his words. Also remember that Muslims hardly make any difference between words like "unlikely, but slightly possible", "coincidence", "a chance for", "perhaps", "likely", "probable", "theory", "claim", etc. etc. and "evidence/proof", "fact", etc., when they find things which they like - in such cases the normal for them is to treat everything like evidence or proved fact. Also remember their strong tendency to quote the Quran, other Islamic books, quasi-science or twisted science, etc., and pretend it is proofs or facts. Always in such cases demand real proofs from them, included proofs for that the Quran really tells the truth in cases where they quote that book as a "proof" - too much is wrong in the Quran, and therefore it has very little value as a proof, unless real proofs are given in addition.

010 75/17: "It is for Us (Allah*) to collect and promulgate it (the Quran*) - - -". Wrong. No god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.

011 75/18: "But when We (Allah*) have promulgated it (the Quran*) - - -". See 75/17 just above.

###012 75/19: "- - - it is for Us (Allah*) to explain it (the Quran - this refers to 75/16*) (and make it clear) - - -". A very clear and not to be misunderstood message. And all the same as soon as a Muslim sees that the clear text Allah has explained and made clear, is wrong, he claims Allah has been unable to express what he really meant; the meaning is something different - an allegory or something - and he - a mere human - has to help Allah by explaining what he "really" meant. This is one of Muslims' and Islam's 3 - 4 - 5 most used ways out when explaining away mistakes, contradictions, etc. in the Quran, when they do not have real arguments.

Also see the chapter "Literal language in the Quran - according to the Quran" in "1000+ Comments on the Quran".

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More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what are parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy or clear.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran is clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1b, 17/12h, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19 Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases #######either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she/it claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

013 75/22a: "Some faces, that Day, will beam (in brightness and beauty - - -". This refers to Muslims claimed going to the Islamic Paradise - see 10/9f above.

###014 75/22c: (YA5822): "This passage (especially with reference to verses 26-28) would seem to refer to what our Doctors (of religion*) call the Lesser Judgment (al Qiyamah al Sughra), which takes place immediately after death, and not to the Greater or General Judgment, which may be supposed to be referred to in such passages as occur in surah 56. There are other passages referring to the Lesser Judgment immediately after death; e.g., 7/37 etc. (if true at least not a clear reference*). If I understand aright, the punishment of sins takes place in three ways; (1)it may take place in this very life, but it may be deferred, to give the sinner respite; (2) it may be an agony immediately after death or in the grave ("punishment in the grave" - though #####not mentioned in the Quran, only in the even more unreliable Hadiths*), with the Partition of 'Barzakh (23/100) separating the sinner from the final Resurrection; and (3) in the final resurrection, when the whole of the present order gives place to a wholly new world:14/48". This is a very interesting comment, because the Lesser Judgment is something Muslims never tells about, and it is no clear part of the Quran - a few sentences may be understood or twisted to give such a meaning, but it is no clear part of Muhammad's teaching. The "punishment in the grave" you meet in Hadiths may be included here, but #####also this punishment clearly is no clear part of the Quran - you simply do not find it there.

Also see (YA5914) under 78/40c below - a detail is interestingly different.

We also point to that if there really had existed something as serious as punishment in the grave, it is extremely unlikely it had not been mentioned in the Quran, which it as said is not. There also is the time factor: According to the Quran one does not know that time has passed between their death and the Day of Doom. If they had been tortured in the grave, you bet they had for one thing known that at least some time had passed, and for another referred to the torture as a reference at least when asked how long time they think passed, a question sometimes asked in the Quran, this even more so as torture and pain make the time pass slowly for the victims. The claimed torture in the grave thus seems not to come from Muhammad, but is something made up later - perhaps together with the making up of Hadiths (Islam makes it very clear that the overwhelming part of the originally collected Hadiths were made up ones.)

015 75/23: "Looking towards their (Muslims*) Lord (Allah*) - - -". They may be in for a surprise, as this is one of the many, many points in the Quran which is contradicted by the Bible: They may be looking at Yahweh, not at Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

016 75/24a: "And some faces, that Day, will be sad and dismal - - -". Here is indicated non-Muslims claimed heading for Hell. But what if it is the Bible which is correct, and not the Quran with all its errors, etc.?

017 75/26: "- - - when (the soul) reaches to the collar-bone (in its exit (at death*)) - - -". It is nice to be told how this happens. But as no-one really knows this, and as the Quran with all its mistakes is from no god, from where is this information? - Or is it simply one more of the Quran's mistakes?

018 75/31a: "So he (the non-Muslim') gave nothing in charity - - -". The numbers we have been able to find, shows that f.x. Christians each give more in real charity than Muslims, even Muslims from rich countries. With "real charity" we mean charity outside the nearest family - to help f.x. a wife or a child is not charity but a matter of course.

019 75//31c: "- - - pray". But to what avail are prayers in Islam? If it is true like the Quran states many times, that Allah predestines everything long before and according to a Plan nobody and nothing can change, also prayers can change nothing - the two claims (predestination contra any value of prayers) are mutually excluding each other, and maximum one of them can even theoretically be true - there are things impossible even for an omniscient and omnipotent god, too.

020 75/32: “- - - he rejected Truth (the Quran*) - - -”. That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact - it actually is proved wrong. See f.x. 13/1g and 40/75 above.

021 75/38a: "- - - then did (Allah') fashion (him (a man*)) in due proportion". See 11/7a above.</>

022 75/38b: (A75/16): "For this rendering of 'sawwa - - -: The stress on Allah's creating man AFTER he has been a sprout (English 2008 edition "germ-cell") 'who fasten itself' (omitted in the English 2008 edition), is a metonym for His endowing the (originally) primitive organism with what is described as a 'soul'". In Islam the fetus is not a human until Allah has given it a soul some time after it is conceived. According to Hadiths this happen when the fetus is 4 months old. The Quran does not tell what a fetus is before this.

023 75/39: "And of him (man*) He (Allah*) made two sexes - - -". See 11/7a above.

#024 75/40a: "Has not He (Allah*) (the same) the power to give life to the dead?". One more standard sample of one of Muhammad’s main techniques of arguing or debating: He takes a never proved claim - here the never proved claim that Allah has given humans their first life - and pretend this claim is a fact, and then he goes on and uses this invalid "fact" as an argument for that Allah also must have another never proved power; the power of resurrection. As the chain of arguments just builds on a not proved claim or presumption, it is entirely outside all rules for logical deductions of proofs, and totally without any value as a proof for anything at all.

And who is it who have to use arguments like this? - the ones who have no real facts or sound arguments (if they had had such ones, they had used them instead) - all too often cheats and deceivers.

You frequently meet this kind of argumentation from Muslims and even from Islam itself (its scholars).

025 75/40b: "Has not He (Allah*) - - - the power to give life to the dead?". Resurrection. Nobody really knows, as Allah never has proved he had such power - there are a lot of claims and words, but only words, and words are cheap, especially when they come from a man and politician of dubious moral quality, documented to use lies (al-Taqiyya, Kitman, Hilah), deceit, and accepting even broken oaths - and worse. And liking money for bribes for attracting or keeping followers, not to mention liking power - and women. The funny situation is that if the Quran and/or the Bible tell the truth on this point, Yahweh has proved his power over life and death, but Allah not - he has not even proved his existence. Also see 7/158i above. (Remember here that Yahweh and Allah are so different and with teachings, moral codes, etc. are so often and so deeply different, that these differences prove that the never documented claims that the two were the same god, are not true.)

8793 + 25 = 8818 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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