1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 73

 

SURAH 73: AL-MUZZAMMIL (The Enfolded One)

(Mecca, 611 - 614 AD)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 73/5a: "Soon shall We (Allah*) Send down to thee (Muhammad*) a weighty Message". This was early in Muhammad's religious years (611 - 614 AD) - still much Allah could send down "soon". But no omniscient god "sent down" a message with that many mistaken facts - many in accordance with wrong science at that time - contradictions, and other errors".

003 73/5b: "- - - Message (the Quran*)". But as no god was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran, was it really a message? - and in case from whom?

004 73/6a: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See f.x. 61/4a above.

005 73/6c: "- - - Prayer - - -". What is the idea and effect of prayers in Islam, if Allah already has predestined everything?

006 73/6d: "- - - Praise (of Allah*) - - -". Please read 1/1a above and see if you think he deserves any - - - if he exists.

007 73/7: "True - - -". See f.x. 2/2b and 61/4a above.

008 73/8: "- - - devote yourself thyself (Muslim*) to Him (Allah*) wholeheartedly". Not a too good idea if Allah does not exist - or if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces. That is to say: It might be a good idea for the god's claimed representative on Earth, as on Earth this in practice for a large part meant: Devote yourself to the god's claimed representative on Earth".

009 73/9a: "(He (Allah*) is) Lord of the East and the West - - -". The likely meaning of this - at least according to Muslims from times after Muhammad grew strong enough to get appetite for power also outside the Mecca and later Medina area - is that Allah is the god for all the world. In spite of this when you read the Quran, you find that all the material, tales, legends, fairy tales, etc. used, are specific for Arabia and its nearest surroundings known in Arabia around 610 - 632 AD, and nothing from the rest of the claimed god's claimed dominion or stuff not known in Arabia at that time (as for the last fact; you meet many, many claims from Muslims about the Quran foretelling scientific facts, etc., but they have without exception one thing in common: They all are made up claims - either the texts in the Quran are twisted to fit modern scientific facts, or scientific facts are twisted to fit the Quran, or the claim simply is pure wishful thinking or an al-Taqiyya (a lawful lie) or a Kitman (a lawful half-truth) using peoples lack of real knowledge). No omniscient god for the whole world would use only stuff specific just for one small area and from a short period of time, not to mention many wrong facts and other errors.

010 73/9b: "(He (Allah*) is) Lord of the East and the West - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the lord of the whole world. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

011 73/9c: "- - - there is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". Contradicted by the Bible: Even the Quran accepts the old Jewish god Yahweh. It tries to solve the problem by claiming that Allah = Yahweh, but as it is very clear this is not true - too many and too fundamental differences in the teachings - there at least must be 2 gods - - - if Allah exists. Allah is never in any way proved, not even in the Quran - there only are claims about him. Yahweh has proved himself many times if either the Quran or the Bible - or both - tells the truth on this point. And remember here that science has proved that also the Islamic claim - as normal for Islam never proved - that the Bible is falsified, also is not true. (There may be mistakes, but no falsifications). Also see 2/255a, 6/106b and 25/18a above.

012 73/9d: "- - - take Him (Allah*) therefore for (thy) Disposer of Affairs - - -". this might be a bad idea if he does not exist, not to mention if he is from the dark forces, something the partly immoral codes of conduct in Islam after all may indicate.

013 73/11b: “And leave Me (Allah*) (alone with those) in possession of the good things of life, who (yet) deny the Truth - - -.” That little while lasted exactly till Muhammad gained military power – then he (or Allah*) went for a stricter regime. This verse is contradicted and often “killed” by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

014 73/11d: "- - - Truth - - -". That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact. See f.x. 13/1g, 40/75 and 61/4a above.

###015 73/12a: "With Us (Allah*) are - - - a Fire (to burn them (non-Muslims*)) - - -". Many Muslim scholars mean that Allah also is behind the existence of Hell - as Allah is omnipotent, the Devil/Iblis could not run a Hell without the permission of Allah. The words "With Us" may indicate that they are right. Allah in case really is a good and benevolent(?) god permitting and supervising Hell.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

016 73/13a: "- - - Food that chokes - - -". According to the Quran one also in Hell (and in Paradise) has to eat and drink, and the food in Hell is very bad and repulsive.

In Yahweh's Paradise and Hell are souls. Souls do not need to eat or drink. In Allah's ones are resurrected bodies needing food and something to drink. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, both their paradises and hells had been identical.

017 73/15a: “We (Allah*) have sent to you (O men!) a Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -”. Would an omniscient god send a messenger teaching a religion containing lots of mistakes and lots of hallmarks of a cheat and a deceiver? And would a good and benevolent god teach such a partly immoral moral code and a partly unjust law like you find in the teachings of Muhammad (we might also mention ethics, but there hardly is any ethics - ethics thinking - in the Quran)? Hardly. Islam will have to prove it - not only the usual undocumented claims, but real proofs.

018 73/15d: "- - - a witness (Muhammad*) - - -". But to whom could Muhammad witness when the Quran makes it clear that the Quran with all its mistakes, contradictions, etc. was not from a god, and that Muhammad thus had no connection to a god?

019 73/15e: "- - - even as we (Allah*) sent a Messenger (Moses*) to Pharaoh." For one thing it is likely it was Yahweh who sent Moses, but that aside: Is the comparison to Moses correct? - if either the Bible or the Quran or both tell the truth on this point, Moses strongly proved he had connection to something supernatural. Muhammad never proved even an atom of his claims - there only were strong, but loose claims and as cheap words and even at least a few lies, plus demands for and glorification of blind belief - all of which are hallmarks of cheats, swindlers and deceivers.

020 73/16b: “- - - We (Allah*) sized him (Ramses II*) with a heavy Punishment - - -”. For one thing: It is likely Ramses II got no personal punishment - he died years later. For another: We know from the Quran that the punishment was drowning - but Ramses II did not drown. Wrong.

021 73/17a: "Then how shall ye (non-Muslims*), if ye deny (Allah*), guard yourself - - -". This is a much used technique used not for finding out what is true, but for winning a debate: One claim or presume that something is true, and then starts the debate from there. But no matter how good the logic and the debate and the conclusions one reaches from such a starting point, it is void and invalid and empty of all truth, if the initial presumption(s) is/are untrue or not proved. It is a method often used by politicians and by cheats and deceivers. In this case there are two presumptions or claims: That Allah exists and that Allah is powerful. None of these are proved - there only are the words of a man with doubtful moral and lust for riches and power, for it. The argument and conclusion thus are invalid. And to answer the invalid question: One may look for a god or gods who may be has/have proved himself/themselves. 

022 73/18b: "His (Allah's*) Promise must be accomplished". It has not happened till this date that a promise proved to be from Allah, has proveably been accomplished by Allah. If it had ever happened, Islam had not forgotten to tell about it.

023 73/19a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 2/2a or 61/4a above.

024 73/19b: "- - - an admonition - - -". From a book full of mistakes and not backed by a god? (No god ever was behind a book of that quality.)

025 73/19c: "- - - whosoever will, let him take a (straight) path to his Lord (Allah*)". This is a much more friendly statement than what the Quran says many other places in the Quran, where it is made clear that Allah decides everything and even if you are to end in Hell or Paradise (according to Hadiths, this is decided by Allah 5 months before you are born). But this early (611 - 615 AD) statement is both contradicted and abrogated (made invalid) by later verses telling that Allah decides everything.

026 73/20a: "- - - (to prayer) - - -". But what mission can prayers have if the god has predestined everything long time before?

####027 73/20d: “He (Allah*) knoweth that there may be (some) among you - - - fighting in Allah’s cause”. This is the only mentioning of fighting up to around 616 AD - and there was nearly nothing before 622 AD when Muhammad started to need warriors for his raids for wealth, etc., in a period where Muhammad had brought nearly 50 - fifty - surahs, not one of which even mention the word fighting (more than 80 by 622 AD). And as is shown below there is no other unmistakable mentioning of fighting in all the 13 years before Muhammad had to flee to Yathrib (now Medina) - and even this verse may simply mean mental fighting by means of words and deeds, not by means of the sword. This in spite of how central the war for Allah and for Muhammad became. Did Allah change his mind after some 13 years? Or was it Muhammad who changed as he gained power? This early Muhammad did not have enough followers to really fight with weapons. But in case it at this time only meant fighting with words it is even stranger that Allah later so totally changed his mind, from a peaceful religion, to one of war and hate with so much stress on the duty to fight and die for Allah and Muhammad. If he was omniscient, he should from the very beginning have known what a gift it was to Allah that humans fought and killed each others in reverence to him - not to mention how unfair it was not to tell his first followers about this sure way to Paradise and the houris, etc., and deny them this easy way to the Next Life. Also not to mention how unfair it was against the bad ones of his followers not to tell them that they really had a chance to come to Paradise: Be killed in war for Allah, and everything was forgiven, nearly no matter how bad a man you had been. But the really great mystery is: Why did and does an omnipotent god need humans to fight for him? There is no logic in this claim. (But there is logic if Muhammad wanted them to fight for himself.)

It is worth mentioning that Muslim scholars means the contents in this verse concerning fighting, does not belong here. Some - f.x. A73/12 (A73/13 in the English 2008 edition) - means it is written in the future tense, and thus about something which may happen (and did happen) later. The majority - f.x. YA5774 - mean that these words were from Medina many years later, but included here (that verses are included in surahs from a different time, is not unusual in the Quran). ##########################If any of these explanations is correct, there in reality was no - not one single - case of incitement to war or raids in the Quran until after Muhammad started to need warriors for raids for riches and later for conquests in and after 622 AD. (The "tone" in the verse is so typical for Medina and the war religion Islam developed into there, that it is highly likely the majority of the Muslim scholars are right - that this is a verse from Medina inserted in this surah from the much more peaceful time in Mecca.)

#####028 73/20e: (A73/12 - English 2008 edition 73/13): "- - - there is no doubt that jihad was first sanctioned during the Medina period - - -". Which confirms that Muhammad and Islam did not think about or talk about or insist on or glorify war until after Muhammad started needing warriors for his raids for riches and later also for conquests, in and after 622 AD. Was this very fundamental change in the religion at this time a coincidence? And why did not the omniscient god Allah know before 622 AD - and Muhammad know - that fighting was a good thing, a duty for all fit Muslim men, and a sure way to Paradise for even the worst sinner?

029 73/20f: "- - - fighting in Allah's cause - - -". One of the at least 200% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Even in the centuries when the Jews fought wars - mainly (not exclusively, but mainly) from Joshua around 1195 BC and some centuries on - it was to establish and later defend a country for the Jews, NOT for the sake of the god. And to try to compare it with NT, is a waste of time. "Islam, the Religion of Peace" - is it a slogan based on al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) or an unintended black joke? (Why do Islam and Muslims so seldom claim that "Islam is the Religion of Honesty"?)

030 73/20g: "- - - regular prayers - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 23/9b above.

##031 73/20h: "- - - give regular Charity - - -". This is one of the (too few) plusses for Islam - the demand for charity. But there are the two dark spots on this standpoint: The main thing is not to help others, but to gain merit for yourself in Heaven, and you get as much such merit from helping your wife and children as from helping strangers - then why help strangers? (- o it happens, but for many it is low down on the priority list).

032 73/20i: "- - - and loan to Allah a Beautiful Loan". This expression in the Quran normally means: "Go to war when Muhammad calls, and risk/give your life for Allah/Muhammad" - in reality for Muhammad here on this Earth.

###033 73/20k: "- - - ye (Muslims*) shall find it in Allah's Presence (= in Paradise) - - -". But what is really "Allah's presence"? There are 7 heavens and Allah lives above number seven - both claims according to the Quran. It is not specified in the Quran, but it seems normally good Muslims end in gardens in the first heaven. Which means there are 6 heavens between them and Allah. The Quran also does not specify the distance between the heavens, but relevant Islamic literature mention 100 (some say 500) years (of travel).

A normal speed for a walker is some 3.5 - 4 miles an hour. Say you walked together with a caravan, which walked for 12 hours a day (the main thing for a caravan is to reach its goal and make money, so they often walked from dawn till dusk, and even ate when walking).

That would mean 45 miles (some 72 km) a day.

There are 365 days a year = some 16.400 miles (some 26.300 km) a year.

As there are said to be 100 years between the heavens, this means some 1.64 million miles (2.63 million km) between the heavens.

And the distance between the 1. and the 7. heaven consequently a little less than 10 million miles (a bit less than 16 million km).

And remember that Allah lives above the 7. heaven = further off.

Better than 40 times the distance to the moon. And this is the distance between the heavens. The distance between Earth/humans and Allah is more.

########################If the Islamic books have given reasonably correct information about the distances, this is a rough picture of what the Quran means with "Allah's Presence" for normal Muslims in Paradise.

034 73/20m: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving - - -". Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and in addition is a god.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

035 73/20n: "- - - Allah is - - - Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, and the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we at least always believe in the demands and deeds - words are too cheap to use and disuse.

8717 + 35 = 8752 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".