1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 70

 

SURAH 70: AL-MA'ARIJ (The Ways of Ascent)

(Mecca, 614 - 617 AD)

 

001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 70/1-3: If we unwind the somewhat complicated structure of this sentence, it is one of the cases where a skeptic - perhaps Nadr ibn-Harith (see 70/1a above) - dared Muhammad to send punishment from Allah to prove Allah's existence and Muhammad's connection to the god. Like always Muhammad was unable to prove anything at all, and had to resort to fast words.

003 70/2b: "- - - (a Penalty (Hell)*) the which there is none to ward off - - -". This is correct only if Allah exists and is a major god, and if at the same time the god - f.x. Yahweh - of the non-Muslim does not exist - - - and if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth about this. In addition: This is one of the many never proved claims in the Quran, which any believer in any religion can make on behalf of his/her god(s) free of charge, as long as it is possible to evade all requests for proofs. Contradicted by the Bible, at least as far as followers of Yahweh go. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words, like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

004 70/4a: “The angels and the Spirit (“ruh” in the Arab text) - - -.” The word “ruh” is used a few times in the Arab text – at least in 16/2, 78/38, 97/4c and here. It likely means “the Spirit” or “the Holy Spirit”, but is f.x. in 16/2 given another translation (“inspiration”). A number of Muslims wants it to be another name for the angel Gabriel (simply because it was he who was said to bring down the surahs to Muhammad, and it is said a couple of places that the “ruh” – the Spirit or Holy Spirit – brought down such ones, “ergo” the Holy Spirit = the angel Gabriel). But the logic is not correct – by means of the rules of logical deductions it is possible only to say they may be the same. And here is another piece of information which makes that deduction unlikely or impossible: The “ruh” – the Holy Spirit” - is not included among the angels ("The angels and the Sprit" the text says). Neither is it the other places – which makes it highly unlikely/impossible logically that the Holy Spirit is an angel - the angel Gabriel. (In the Bible it is clear they are not the same. Also in the Quran it never is said that Gabriel = the Spirit.)

005 70/4d: “- - - unto Him (Allah*) in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years:”

22/47: “Verily, a Day in the sight of thy Lord (Allah*) is like a thousand years of your reckoning.”

32/5: “- - - on a Day, the space whereof will be (as) a thousand years of your reckoning.”

(2 contradictions)

006 70/5: "Therefore (because it was for Allah to punish*) do thou (Muhammad? Muslims?*) hold Patience - - -". Guess if this sentence was abrogated, made invalid and often forgotten when Muhammad and his followers gained enough stolen riches and power to bribe or force Islam on the surroundings - especially on the Pagans.

007 70/11b: "- - - the sinner's desire will be: would that he could redeem himself from the Penalty of the Day by (sacrificing) his children". The sacrifice of children did happen in old Arabia, but in contradiction to what the Quran liked to claim, even Muslim scholars today say it only happened infrequently. But why not paint the opponents as black as possible?

008 70/11c: "- - - sinner - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exist. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

#009 70/11-14: "- - - the sinner's desire will be: would that he could redeem himself from the Penalty of the Day by (sacrificing) his children, his wife and his brother, his kindred who sheltered him, and all that is on earth - so that it could deliver him". According to this non-Muslims are of very low quality and moral. But then in the entire Quran, you hardly find anything positive about non-Muslims. Another question: Is the claim true?

010 70/17b: "- - - (- - - the Right (the message of the Quran*)) - - -". A book with so much wrong contents does not represent what is right - this even more so as the many contradictions and the many places with unclear language, often makes it impossible to know what the exact meaning is. And not to mention that all the errors, etc. prove 100% and more that no god was involved in the making or delivery of the book - no omniscient god makes mistakes.

In a way worse: At least some of the errors, wrong facts, contradictions, etc. are so well known, that there is no chance that not at least a good percent of the better educated Muslim leaders do not know them.

011 70/18: "And collect (wealth) and hide it (from use) - - -". It is very ok for Muslims to make and to collect money, according to the religion. But a "fair" share of it should be used for the religion, or for helping the poor, etc.

012 70/19: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See f.x. 61/4a above.

##013 70/22b: "- - - prayer - - -". What are the idea with and the effect of prayers in Islam. The Quran MANY places states that Allah predestines absolutely everything, and he predestines it according to his Plan, which nobody and nothing can change. And he predestines it long time before it is going to happen - he f.x. according to Hadiths predestines whether you are going to end in Hell or Heaven already when you are a 4 months old fetus = 5 months before you are born. Now the Quran tells that man also has free will - a necessary claim not to make Allah very unjust when he sends a person to Hell for sins (or for that case rewards him for good deeds) - but those are two things which are impossible even for an omniscient and omnipotent god to combine. Give man even the slightest degree of free will, and the laws of chaos inexorably finish off predestination - the god can make things happen by adjusting this and that, but the moment man gets the possibility to change his mind once more about something, full predestination is gone - and the same is full precognition. Even Islam admits that full predestination is impossible to combine with free will of man (some claim that partly free will is possible, but that is wrong - the laws of chaos is very clear on that point; the so-called "butterfly effect" kicks in): We quote (A6/141 - comment to verse 6/149): “In other words, the real relationship between Allah’s knowledge of the future (and, therefore, the ineluctably of what is to happen in the future) on one side, and man’s free will, on the other – two propositions which, on the face of it, seem to contradict one another – is beyond man’s comprehension; but since both are postulated by Allah, both must be true". But here Islam is leaving religion, and entering pure mysticism. In the non-material realms of life there are things impossible even for an omniscient and omnipotent god. Proofs for this in 6/149a above.

If there is complete predestination in Islam like the Quran states as absolute several places in the Quran, prayers can have no effect in this religion - everything is already decided and nothing can be changed in Allah’s long since predestined Plan. To claim the opposite just is mysticism, not religion, not to mention no reality or truth.

014 70/23b: "- - - prayer - - -". See 70/22b above.

015 70/26b: "- - - the truth (the contents of the Quran*) - - -". With all its mistakes, etc., the Quran at best tells partly the truth.

016 70/28a: "For their (Muslims'*) Lord's (Allah's*) displeasure is the opposite of Peace and Tranquility". In more plain language: Allah likes peace and tranquility, and dislikes the opposite. BUT NB: This was in 621-622 in Mecca, before Muhammad started to gain power and started first as a leader of highway-men and then as a warlord, and Allah discovered he liked war and blood and riches and power. In the 13 years in Mecca, Islam was a rather peaceful religion. But during the early part of the 10 years in Medina, Islam was turned into a religion of war, and this verse lost its meaning - at least as long as Muslims were the perpetrators and non-Muslims the victims.

017 70/28b: (YA5693): “For their Lord’s displeasure is the opposite of Peace and Tranquility”. But this Arab text may also instead mean “And their Lord’s displeasure is one against which there is no security". Once more different meanings in the glorified language – or alphabet – of old Arabia.

###018 70/29-30: “And those who guard their chastity, except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess (= slaves*) – for (then) they are not to be blamed - - -.” There is no blame for raping a woman taken captive in the name of Allah, or your slave women – just how and how often you want. A good and benevolent god with an excellent moral (at least for the Muslim free man).

"Do against others like you want other do against you" (Luke 6/31).

One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that Jesus and Muhammad are not in the same religion or line of prophets (in addition to that Muhammad was not really a prophet. see 9/88b above.

019 70/31a: "But those who trespass beyond this are transgressors". Beware that when the Quran uses these words, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code - like here. Also "transgressors" is one of many negative names Muhammad used about non-Muslims, but just in this case it also includes bad Muslims.

020 70/35a: "Such (good Muslims*) will be the honored ones in the Garden (of Bliss)." This only may - may - be true if Allah exists and is a god (not f.x. something from dark forces pretending to be a god like parts of the Quran and parts of its moral code may indicate), and if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth about this.

021 70/40a: "- - - (Allah*) the Lord of all points in the East and the West - - -". Contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is that lord, not Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

022 70/40b: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above.

023 70/41-42: "- - - We (Allah*) can certainly substitute for them (non-Muslims*) better (men) than they (are*) - - -". Only possible - possible - if Allah exists and is something supernatural. And if there is not another god who may think at least some of them are good persons and take care of them - as far as the Quran is from normal moral standards, this may well happen - if f.x. Yahweh exists. Not to mention if Yahweh exists, but Allah is made up.

024 70/41: "- - - (- - - Our (Allah's*) Plan)". Allah has anything - even the smallest details - planned and predestined in his Plan which nobody and nothing can change.

025 70/42e: "- - - promised!". But it is a well known fact that there is not proved one case of Allah honoring a promise - the thundering silence from Islam is a perfect proof for this. Lots of claims, but not one proved case.

8600 + 25 = 8625 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".