1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 69

 

SURAH 69: AL-HAQQAH (The Sure Reality)

(Mecca, 618 - 619 AD)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 69/1: "The Sure Reality". Here is intended the Quran and Islam. But like so much propaganda in all aspects of life - and in the Quran - also this claim is not true, as too much is wrong in that book.

003 69/2. "What is the Sure Reality?" At least not the Quran and/or Allah. See 69/1 just above.

004 69/3a: "And what will make thee (non-Muslim*) realize what the Sure Reality is?" Reliable information about it, plus at least one valid proof - not just big, undocumented claims in a book with so many mistakes as in the Quran - a book which itself by means of f.x. those mistakes proves 100% or more that it is not from any god.

005 69/3b: "- - - the Sure Reality - - -". See 69/1 above.

006 69/4: "The Thamud and the 'Ad People - - -". 2 tribes from old Arab folklore. They may have existed or they may have not, but if they did it is very little likely their ends came in those ways and for the reasons the Quran claims - as usual without any documentation. If they existed, Muslim scholars mean 'Ad was the oldest and lived in the south of Arabia, whereas the Thamud was a somewhat younger tribe who lived in the mountains in the northern part of Arabia - north of Medina.

007 69/8a: "Then seest thou (people*) any of them (the 'Ad people*) left surviving?" At least at the time of Muhammad - at least 2ooo years later if the 'Ad had ever existed - no survivors were known (if there were, they were mixed up with the mixture of people who are the Arabs). An easy "proof" for Muhammad.

008 69/9d: "- - - Sin - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exist. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

009 69/9+10: “And Pharaoh, and those before him - - - (Allah*) punished them with an abundant Penalty.” The Quran tells that this penalty for the pharaoh was drowning, but Ramses II did not drown. Neither did he die until several years after the possible Exodus, according to science.

010 69/11a: "We (Allah*) - - - carried you (mankind), it the floating (Ark)". Contradicted by the Bible, which says that the involved god was Yahweh, not Allah. Also see 67/9c above - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

011 69/12: "That We (Allah*) might make it (the survival of the humans in the Ark*) a Message - - -". It is no message from Allah if the involved god was Yahweh - and even more so if Allah did not exist.

012 69/19a: "- - - his (Muslim's*) Record - - -". But why does an omniscient, predestining god need to keep a record?

013 69/19b: "- - - in his (Muslim's*) right hand - - -". In the old pagan Arabia the right hand was reckoned to be the good or lucky one (and the left the bad or unlucky one). According to several places in the Quran, included here, the superstition is the same in Heaven. There are 3 possible explanations for this:

It is a coincidence.

The old pagan Arabia has got the idea from Heaven.

Haven - or at least Muhammad - has got the idea from the old Arabia.

Which one is likely?

014 69/21: "And he (a Muslim*) will be in a life in Bliss (in Heaven*) - - -". If Islam is a true religion and if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth. Also see 10/9f above.

015 69/23: "The Fruits whereof (Paradise*) (will hang in bunches) low and near". The Quran's and Islam's Paradise is similar to a poor and naive desert warrior's dream about the luxury life of a king on Earth. One of the reasons why Muhammad needed resurrection in body; when the pleasures are bodily ones, you cannot enjoy them without a body. Also see 10/9f above. These many and essential differences between Yahweh's and Allah's paradises is one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, their paradises had been one and the same.

016 69/24c: "- - - (good) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

017 69/25a: "- - - his (Muslim's*) Record - - -". But why does an omniscient, predestining god need to keep a record?

018 69/33a: "This was he (who was punished in Hell*) that would not believe in Allah Most High". The underlying meaning: People who do not believe in me, Muhammad, end in Hell.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells, are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

019 69/33b: "- - - Allah Most High - - -". Often claimed, never proved. It also is impossible if Allah does not exist or if he exists but is not a top god. (If he f.x. is something from the dark forces pretending to be a god, like parts of the Quran and parts of its moral code may indicate).

020 69/36a: “Nor hat he (the sinner in Hell*) any food except the corruption from washing wounds.” A pertinent question: How and with what do you wash wounds in Hell – and how do fried wounds excrete corruption - in Hell? But that aside:

37/66: “- - - they (the “infidels” in Hell*) will eat thereof (the disgusting fruits of the zaqqum tree in Hell*) and fill their bellies therewith.” About zaqqum tree also see 44/43 and 56/52-54 above

88/6: “No food will there be for them (the “infidels” in Hell*) but a bitter dari (a dry bush with needles*) - - -.”

(2 contradictions.)

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical. In Allah's Hell one needs food and drink, whereas this is not necessary in Yahweh's (as there only are souls, not bodies.)

021 69/37b: "- - - sin". See 69/9c above.

022 69/38: "So do I (Allah*) call to witness - - -". This is a question never answered in the Quran: Why does an omniscient god need witnesses?

023 69/40a: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 61/4a above.

024 69/40b: "- - - an honored messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". At least honored by his followers - but the honor is only justified if the Quran is from a god and he in addition told the truth, the full truth, and only the truth. And even in that case his honor is tarnishes by his immoral in several aspects of life and of his brutality.

025 69/41: "This (the Quran*) is not the word of a poet - - -". Muhammad claimed he was not a poet - most likely true - and that he thus could not have made up the Quran; an invalid argument to use an understatement. You f.x. do not have to be a poet to make prose. Also Mr. H. C. Andersen was not a poet, but he made a lot of fairy tales - and his were good ones.

026 69/42: "Nor is it (the Quran*) the word of soothsayer - - -". One more never proved claim from Muhammad - and a suspicion he met from his surroundings. As the Quran is not from a god, the suspicion may well be at least partly correct.

027 69/43a: “(This (the Quran*) is) a Message sent down from the Lord (Allah*) of the Worlds.” Must be wrong. See 13/2g and 40/75 above. No omniscient god makes or revere or forward in his own name a book in which so much is wrong. If Allah sent down the Quran, he very far from was/is omniscient.

028 69/43b: "- - - a Message - - -". But is it really a message? And in case from whom, as a text with so much wrong, is from no god?

029 69/43c: “- - - the Worlds - - -.” But the 7 worlds of Muhammad do not exist. See 65/12b above.

#030 69/44–46: “And if the Messenger (Muhammad*) were to invent any sayings in our name, We (Allah*) should certainly size him by his right hand, and We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart”. Not if you – Allah – do not exist. Nor if you are far from omnipotent if you exist. Not to mention if you are from the dark forces, but pretending to be a god - Muhammad would not have a chance to see the difference. And if Muhammad knew you did not exist, he could say and do whatever he wanted without any danger or fear.

Some "proof"!!!

031 69/47: "Nor could any of you (Muslims*) withhold him (Muhammad*) (from Our (Allah's*) wrath (if Muhammad invented anything about the religion*)". Wrong if Allah does not exist - in that case it is a very easy task.

032 69/48a: "But, verily, this is a Message for the God-fearing". Perhaps, but in case from whom, as no god was involved?

033 69/48b: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 2/2b and 61/4a above.

034 69/49: "- - - certainly - - -". See f.x. 2/2b and 61/4a above.

##035 69/50a: “But truly (Revelation (of the Quran*)) is a cause of sorrow for the Unbelievers”. True, but for other reasons than the Quran indicates: Because of all the war and blood and terror Islam has represented through the ages - and the answer is NOT that also other religions have caused wars, etc., as that does not make a hate, rape, suppression, robbery and blood slave religion like Islam one single iota better – and in most other religions it is done in spite of the real religion, not because of. (CSPI informs that it has been calculated that through the times some 270 million non-Muslims have been killed because of Islam. Of these are some 120 millions from Africa (all the many millions of slaves brought out of Africa or died during transport are not included).). And because many felt pity for souls going lost in a religion built on a book where something is seriously wrong. (May be their own religion(s) also were wrong, but all the mistaken facts, etc., in a book pretending to be from an omniscient god, prove that in Islam there really is something that is wrong - many and central things - and it makes one doubt very strongly that it really is a divine revelation).

Actually Islam is the only one of the big religions that directly proves itself – by means of its holy book – that it is something seriously wrong with that holy book and thus with the religion.

036 69/50b: "- - - truly - - -". See f.x. 61/4a above.

037 69/50c: "- - - (Revelation) - - -". Is the Quran really revelation? - and in case from whom, as all the mistakes, etc. in the book proves it is not from any god?

038 69/51a: “But, verily; it (the Quran*) is Truth of assured certainty“. Wrong - too many mistakes, etc. - - - but words are cheap. For similar claims also see 2/109 – 2/147 – 5/48 – 5/75 – 6/73 – 8/7 – 9/30 – 9/33 - 9/48 – 9/60 – 10/2 – 10/32 – 10/34 – 13/1 - 21/18 - 10/35 – 10/36 – 10/94 – 11/17 – 14/22 - 17/81 - 17/105 – 21/109 – 22/54 – 23/71 – 28/3 – 28/53 – 32/3 – 33/4 – 34/6 – 34/49 – 36/70 – 37/21 – 37/52 -40/62 - 40/75 – 41/12 - 41/41 – 41/53 – 42/18 – 42/24 – 43/29 – 43/87 – 46/16 - 46/30 – 46/34 – 47/2 – 47/3 – 50/19 – 56/57 – 56/92 – 57/16 – 67/21 - 73/11 – 85/19 – 92/16 – 103/3.

Plus at least a few lies.

Besides: Have you ever noticed that the one who most needs to boast – loudly and frequently – about how truthful he is, is the cheater and the swindler, and the one boasting about his knowledge is the medium to rather ok, but not top intelligent and educated one? – the really honest and the really knowledgeable persons never need to boast about those things. Real honesty and real intelligence and knowledge make itself felt after some time of close connection – if there is a need for boasting, something is wrong. (But similar goes for dishonesty, bluffs, etc. - in the long run it easily divulges itself, at least to the keen observer).

Remember also Hitler's Nazi Minister for Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels: “If you tell a lie often enough, people starts believing it is true.” (There are many similarities between the ideology of the Nazi - and all Fascisms - and the ideology of Islam).

039 69/51b: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 2/2b, 13/1g, 40/75 and 61/4a above.

040 69/51c: "- - - it (the Quran*) is the Truth - - -". With all its mistakes, etc., the Quran at best is partly true.

041 69/51d: "- - - Truth - - -". That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact (actually there is proved many wrong points in it). See f.x. 13/1g, 40/75 and 61/4a above.

042 69/51e: "- - - assured - - -". See 2/2b above.

043 69/51f: "- - - certainty - - -". See 2/2b above.

#044 69/51g: (YA5673): "All Truth is in itself certain". Correct, but only if it really is a truth, not only a claim pretended to be a proved or self evident truth, like you too often find in the Quran and other places in Islam and in debate with Muslims.

Besides even if a truth in itself is certain, that does not mean people will know it is true - even the truth needs to be proved to make people know it is certain and true. This even more so as bluffs and deceit is very cheap and often impossible or at least difficult to know from the truth, unless there are proofs. And this fact is strengthened by the fact at the ones demanding blind belief and/or using dishonesty or made up "facts" and argument ever so often are cheats or deceivers.

###Note that even the truth normally needs proof - without a proof it may be the truth, but it also may just be a claim. Truth + proof = knowledge. Believed truth (or untruth or claims or lies) without a proof = Belief - and belief often is wrong.

One fact: Certainty in one's brain does not necessarily mean that something is true, and this no matter how many it is who feel certain.

045 69/52a: "So glorify the name of thy (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) Most High". See 1/1a - is he worth glorification - - - if he exists?

046 69/52b: "- - - (Allah*) Most High". Often claimed, never proved. Actually exactly nothing of any essence is ever proved about Allah, not even his existence.

8554 + 46 = 8600 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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