1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 66
18 May 2014
SURAH 66: AT-TAHRIM (Prohibition)
(Medina, 629 AD)
001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.
002 66/1d: "- - - that which Allah has made lawful to thee (Muhammad*) - - -". This only is possible if Allah exists and is powerful enough to make laws.
But Muhammad was in quite a lucky position, having a god which fixed even his personal problems, and made special divine laws for him, included plenty of women. Lucky him.
003 66/1e: "But Allah is Oft-Forgiving - - -". Allah can forgive exactly nobody unless he exists and is a god.
As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.
004 66/1f: "But Allah is - - - Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, and the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we at least always believe in the demands and deeds - words are too cheap to use and disuse.
#####005 66/2a: "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases)- - -". According to other places in the Quran, the cases when you can break your oat without sinning, are:
Oaths you have given without really meaning them.
Oaths where you later see you will get a more satisfactory result if you break your oat. In serious cases, though, you should pay a "fine" - expiation - to Allah to be forgiven".
Can anyone please tell us what remains of trustworthiness of a Muslim's words and oaths - especially when you add to this the al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), the Kitman (the lawful half-truth), the Hilah (the lawful pretending/circumventing), and permitted betrayals, and disuse of words/promises/oaths (2/225, 5/89, 16/91, 66/2) (and of Muslims' trustworthiness)? - and his point of view that "war is deceit" (and everything is war). And much worse in this case: WHAT REMAINS OF MUHAMMAD'S TRUSTWORTHINESS - NOT TO MENTION THE QURAN'S TRUSTWORTHINESS?
006 66/2c: "- - - Allah is your (Muslims'*) Protector - - -". Not unless he exists and is something supernatural - preferably a god.
007 66/2d: “- - - He (Allah*) is full of Knowledge and Wisdom.” Not if he made the Quran. Also see 13/1g and 40/75 above.
008 66/3a: “- - - the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” Wrong. See 66/1a above.
009 66/3b: "When the Prophet (Muhammad*) disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his consorts, and she divulges it (to another) - - -". It is not known who the two were or what it was all about. But it was a private family problem - does that belong in a holy book? And how come it is possible to find this in "the Mother of the Book" in Heaven and written at least billions of years ago, of which the Quran is a copy?
##################Not to mention: How could Allah and his angels revere texts like this in Allah's own home/heaven, like Islam claims?
010 66/3f: "- - - (Allah*) knows and is well acquainted with all things". The old enigma: Why then 2/233f above?
011 66/3-5: These are family problems in Muhammad's family. Do they belong in a holy book? And: The Quran is a copy of the "mother book" (13/39, 43/4, 85/21-22) which Allah and his angels revere ("high in dignity" - 43/4) in his "home". For one thing, how did Muhammad's family problems end up in the "mother book" written may be billions of years earlier? - and for another; would really a god revere texts like this?
012 66/4c: "- - - truly Allah is his (Muhammad's*) Protector - - -". The same old fact: Only if Allah exists and is something supernatural. The same goes for Gabriel, who is not necessarily (unlikely) Yahweh's arch angel Gabriel, even if the name is the same. This will especially be the case if Muhammad's Gabriel in reality was someone from the dark forces, dressed up like Gabriel.
013 66/4e: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
014 66/4g: "- - - and furthermore, the angels will back him (Muhammad*) up - - -". A point to remember when Muhammad explained Allah could not send down angels (to prove Allah's existence and Muhammad's connection to him), because that would mean the Day of Doom had come. It does not even belong in a book given to 124ooo prophets and messengers through all times and places, like the Quran and Hadiths claim (the Quran does not give any number).
No angel was ever observed near Muhammad.
015 66/5b: "- - - if he (Muhammad*) divorced you (all (his wives*)), that Allah will give him in exchange Consorts better than you - - -". Try to find something even remotely similar in NT!. One more at least 200% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not on the same line of anything essential in the moral world. And a god revering this kind of stuff - "yellow press" - in his home?
016 66/6e: "- - - the Commands they (angels*) receive from Allah - - -". This verse is about Hell. ####Is this a proof for a theory many Islamic scholars have - that Allah is the real ruler of Hell? (The theory says that as Allah is omnipotent, Iblis cannot run Hell without Allah's permission, and he also cannot run it unless it is part of Allah's Plan.)
In that case Allah is quite a "good and benevolent" god.
017 66/8b: "- - - in the hope that your (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) will - - - admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow - - -". This only is possible if he exists and in addition is a major god.
018 66/8c: "- - - Gardens beneath which Rivers flow - - -". The Quran's and Islam's Paradise - see 10/9f above. It also is the most frequently used Arabism in the Quran.
019 66/8e: “- - - the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” Wrong. See 66/1a above.
020 66/8g: "- - - their (Muslims'*) Light - - -". This is claimed to be the light of Allah - it at least cannot come from a book of a quality like the Quran - and besides a Quran overflowing with mistakes, etc., is not from any god. But even if here may be claimed a different kind of light from Allah, the claim is not true unless Allah exists and in addition is a god (if he is something from dark forces pretending to be a god, he hardly offers real light).
021 66/8i: "- - - Forgiveness - - -". Only 2 can forgive - the victim and a god. Thus Allah cannot forgive unless he exists and is a god. (He cannot forgive if he is no god, because then there is no sin in disbelieving that he is a god, and thus there is nothing to forgive).
As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.
022 66/8j: "- - - Thou (Allah*) hast power over all things". He at least never clearly has showed that power - till now it all has been only empty words.
023 66/9a: “O Prophet (Muhammad*)!” Wrong. See 66/1a above.
024 66/9b: “O Prophet! (Muhammad*) Strive (normally in the Quran = armed fighting*) hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them.” Muhammad is the example for all Muslims. Muslims will excuse Muhammad with that this is about war – but is that any excuse, when practically all raids and wars were initiated by the Muslims? This verse abrogates (and contradicts) at least these verses (here are 88 out of the 124 Muslim scholars say are abrogated by 9/5 - most of them also is abrogated by 66/9): 2/109, 2/190, 2/256, 2/272, 3/20, 4/62, 4/81, 4/90, 5/3, 5/28, 5/48, 5/99, 6/60, 6/66, 6/70, 6/104, 6/107, 6/112, 6/158, 7/87, 7/188, 7/193, 7/199, 8/61, 9/68, 10/41, 10/99, 10/102, 10/108, 11/12, 11/121, 13/40, 15/3, 15/94, 16/35, 16/82, 16/125, 16/126, 16/127, 17/54, 18/29, 18/56, 19/39, 20/130, 21/107, 21/112, 22/49, 22/68, 23/54, 23/96, 24/54, 26/216, 27/92, 28/50, 28/55, 29/18, 29/46, 32/30, 34/25, 34/28, 35/23, 35/24a, 36/17, 39/41, 41/34, 42/6, 42/15, 42/48, 43/83, 43/89, 44/59, 45/14, 46/9, 46/135a, 46/135b, 46/135b, 50/39, 50/45, 51/50-51, 51/54, 52/45, 52/47, 53/29, 67/26, 73/10, 73/11, 79/45, 86/17, 88/22, 109/6. They are all quoted under 9/5. (At least 88 abrogations).
"The Religion of Peace"(??).
##025 66/9d: “O Prophet (Muhammad*)! Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell - - -.” A clear order and a clear explanation why they are sub-human, and thus deserve to die. “Untermench” always are ok to kill – they deserve it. It also is the right of the “Übermench” to do so – and in the Quran no doubt the Muslims are the “Übermench”. (Quite like the Nazi philosophy - except that according to the Nazis, Arabs were "Untermench".(Übermench = super humans, Untermench = sub humans. German.)
###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.
026 66/10d: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
027 66/10f: The contents of 66/10 are not from the Bible. The Bible is the only source for information about this. As the Quran is not from a god, and the information thus not from a god, from where did Muhammad get this information - or "information"?
028 66/11f: "- - - do wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
###029 66/12a: “And Mary the daughter of ‘Imran - - -”. Once more this famous mistake. Imran was the father of Moses and Aaron - - - but they lived (if they are not fiction) some 1200 years before Mary, mother of Jesus. The pharaoh of Moses f.x. was Ramses II according to science, and we know when he lived. Muslims try to explain this with that it was another Imran, but science agrees on that it is the same one, and that Muhammad here made a genuine mistake. This even more so as Hadith shows that Muhammad later was told about his mistake, and tried to “explain” it away, but without success.
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#############030 66/12c: (A66/26): “- - - We (Allah*) breathed into (her (Mary’s*) body) Our spirit - - -.” Does this refer to how Jesus was created? – or does it refer to the "normal" transfer of spirit that according to Islam makes a fetus to a human, and which according to Islam happens 5 months before the baby is born? Nobody knows – and this is an essential question in just this case. But the text is not clearer than this.
According to the fact that Mary was a virgin (according to several points in the Quran - 3/47, 19/20, 21/91, 66/12), though, she could not be the carrier of a fetus - and according to Islam, the fetus is 4 months old before it receive the soul. Thus this has to be the very "start" of Jesus - the creation of him. And note that according to this verse it was done by the god personally: "'We' breathed into her 'Our' spirit - - -". (This way of using the words "We" and "Our" is named "royal 'We'", and is used by kings, etc. in formal speech instead of "I" and "my".) There thus is no doubt that Jesus was "started" by the god himself. This also goes even if it here is meant that the god blew the soul/personality/mind into Jesus at the 4-month stage, as it after all is the soul/person/mind which counts in the case of Jesus, not the body. We may add that there is no way of believing that if the god personally started the growth of a fetus, that fetus was to become an ordinary man - this even more so if you combine this verse with 19/19, telling that Mary got a holy son.
In spite of Muslim scholars' debates about this, there really is only one possible conclusion here: The god "started" Jesus - and the male who "starts" a baby, is the father of that baby. THUS THE QURAN HERE DIRECTLY CONFIRMS THAT JESUS WAS THE SON OF THE GOD (AND 19/19 CONFIRMS THAT HE WAS HOLY) - this in spite of Muhammad's repeated claims about the opposite, as Jesus the son of the god would make Muhammad maximum messenger number 2 (and Muhammad wanted respect and power). Muhammad clearly accepted the use of dishonesty as working tools - this is clear from several points in the Quran. He also personally used dishonesty as a means - f.x. when murdering the peace delegation from Khaybar - and he lied at least a few times in the Quran (some cases are listed in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran"). But the problem when lying is not to make up a lie, but not to say things in other connections which shows that this and this was a lie. Also remember that in such cases what is said unconsciously is more reliable than what is claimed very consciously. About Jesus Muhammad claims Jesus was number 2, but here and in 19/19 stumbles and divulges that Jesus for one thing really was the son of the god, and that he was holy.
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031 66/12d: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b and 66/11d above.
032 66/12e: "- - - he (Mary's*) Lord (god*) - - -". The Quran claims that Mary believed in Allah. If you know nothing about Israel at that time, you of course are free to believe it. But it is strongly contradicted by the Bible, which says her god was Yahweh, not Allah. We also now are far enough into the twilight of history to know that it is highly unlikely that any Jews believed in al-Lah/Allah or in a religion like Islam around year 0 BC/AD (or really around ca. 5-6 BC, as our year numbers are not 100% correct - they made a mistake when they calculated the year of the birth of Jesus, when they started to recon time from his birth). No Allah or Quran or Islam involved in Israel at the time of Jesus according to historical science. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
####It is a scientific and undisputable fact that neither science nor Islam has found any traces from a religion like Islam or a god like al-Lah/Allah in Israel - or any other place - around year 0. (Except the polytheistic version in Arabia of course.)
8403 + 32 = 8435 Remarks.
Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".
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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".