1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 62
18 May 2014
SURAH 62: AL-JUMU'AH (Friday)
(Medina, 622-625 AD)
001 "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.
002 62/1a: “Whatever is in the heavens (plural and wrong*) and on earth, doth declare the Praises and Glory of Allah - - -”. Absolutely anything which exists have a mind able to praise Allah? Animism - a hallmark of primitive pagan religions.
003 62/1d: "- - - (Allah*) the Sovereign, the Holy One - - -". This only may be true is he exists and in addition is a god, none of which is ever proved.
004 62/1f: "(Allah*) the Exalted in Might - - -". He in case never unmistakably has shown his might.
005 62/1g: “(Allah*) - - - the Wise - - -*)”. Wrong if the Quran is representative for his wisdom.
006 62/2a: “It is He (Allah*) Who has sent (Muhammad*)”. It is difficult to believe that an omniscient god sent a messenger with a message containing so much wrong, and a messenger taking so good care of himself. It simply is not correct. No omniscient god would do so.
##007 62/2b: “It is He (Allah*) Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a Messenger - - - “. All Muslim literature say Muhammad was an-alphabetic, and use that for a proof for his inability to make up the Quran - not mentioning that many a good teller of tales in the old times was an-alphabetic. But there also are two other possible meanings of this verse: That his audience were unlettered persons ("- - - amongst the Unlettered - - -"), or that they were persons without a holy book.
(In just this case the sentence instead may mean the people without a holy book).
#As for Muhammad's inability to read: The statement is questioned: A man of good and not poor family not knowing how to read and write? A rich widow marrying an an-alphabetic, knowing he was to run her business? An intelligent businessman with admission to learned men, with a drive for power, not learning how to read and write? It is not likely - but there are no neutral sources about Muhammad from that time. It will never be possible to find out for sure, one way or the other. There also at least one place is mentioned that Muhammad himself wrote parts of the Hudaybiyah treaty in 628 AD. Hadiths also tell that on his dying bed he wanted to write something, and that the Muslims around him later regretted they had not let him do so.
Contradicted, but not proved wrong by the laws of probability and by Hadiths. Well, actually Hadiths prove he knew how to write as mentioned, but Hadiths is even more unreliable than the Quran, so that proof alone is not reliable enough to make a final judgment.
But also see 62/2c just below - may be Muhammad is not the main person in this verse.
##008 62/2f: “It is He (Allah*) Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a Messenger from among themselves - - - “. Muhammad made much out of his claim that he was from among his own people like all (wrong) other prophets, and used the claimed fact that all prophets were from among their own people - according the Quran, not in reality - as a "proof" or at least an indication for that he was a real prophet. (The claim was wrong, though, as some of the Biblical prophets did not work among their own people - Abraham and Lot both were from what is now Iraq, but worked in Canaan (now Israel), Joseph was from what is now Israel, but worked in Egypt, Moses was a native of Egypt, but worked 40 years in Midian in what very unlikely, but not disproved is now Arabia (but perhaps in Sudan or without exception most likely in Sinai), the Jew Jonah worked in Nineveh (the capital of Assyria), to mention some of the Quran's prophets.
009 62/2g: “- - - His (Allah’s*) Signs - - -.” There are no signs clearly from Allah neither in the Quran, nor any other place. See 2/39b and 2/99 above.
##010 62/2h: “(Muhammad was to*) instruct them (the Unlettered Arabs*) in Scripture - - -” To instruct them in scripture, he hardly could be an analphabetic himself, but that aside: See 40/75 and 41/12.
##011 62/2i: “(Muhammad was to*) instruct them (the Unlettered Arabs*) in Scripture and Wisdom - - -”. There is not much wisdom in a book full of mistakes, contradictions, etc., and with a partly immoral moral code like the Quran.
012 62/2j: "- - - they (the pagan Arabs*) were in manifest error". Were they in less error afterwards? Are they in less error today? That will depend on if the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth - and if Allah exists and is a god. Read the Quran - skip the glorious words and the loose claims, and read the realities and judge for yourself.
###013 62/2m: (A62/1) "The designation of the Prophet (Muhammad') as a man 'from among themselves' is meant, in this context, to stress the fact that he, too, was unlettered (ummi) in the primary sense (= had not learnt how to read and write - a claim science is skeptical to*) of this word, and could not, therefore, have 'invented' the message of the Quran or 'derived' its ideas from earlier scriptures". This is wrong at least to the 2. power and dishonesty at least to the 3. There is no connection between knowing how to read and write, and the ability to make up tales. Tellers of tales made up good stories, legends, fairy tales, etc., etc., for perhaps a million years before writing was even invented. Similar goes for the claim that as he could not read, he could not have got his "information" and ideas from the Bible, but has to have got it directly from Allah. You do not have to be able to read yourself to get information about religions and other things - a lot of what anybody even today get of information, is verbal. And this was even more so the case in the old times when telling of tales, histories, legends, fairy tales, etc. was a popular pastime in long evenings - in Arabia like in most primitive cultures. The argument and the claim is even more stupid as the tales in the Quran mostly are not even from the Bible, but from tales and legends and folklore (that is why they are different from the Bible - not falsifications of the Bible like Muhammad claimed, but the use of verbal tales based on, but different from the Bible).
And not to forget: Muhammad married rich, and would have no problem to pay somebody to read stories which interested him. (This in addition to that several things points to that he knew both how to read and to write.)
The mildest word possible to use for claims and arguments used here - and often used by Muslims (that you cannot make up stories or find information, unless you know how to read and write) - is rubbish. This even more so as the facts we have pointed to here, are so well known, that there is no chance at all for that Muslim scholars do not know them, and all the same they use the claims and arguments - - - and uneducated or lower intelligent (or wishful) believers even believe them!
The only thing use of such claims and "arguments" prove, is that Muslims have no real arguments. If they had had, they would not have to use stupidity and dishonesty like this for "proofs".
014 62/3a: "- - - He (Allah*) is Exalted in Might - - -". He in case never unmistakably has shown his might.
015 62/3b: “- - - (Allah is*) Wise - - -”. Not if he made the Quran. Also see 13/1g + 40/75 above.
016 62/4b: "- - - Allah is the Lord of the highest bounty". Easy to claim, but never proved. And also it is contradicted by the Bible, which says Yahweh is the highest lord, not Allah. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
017 62/5e: "Evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
018 62/5f: “Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of Allah - - -”. What does it mean that invalid signs are claimed falsified? Especially in a book with so many mistakes? Perhaps here is meant the claimed falsification of the Bible - a claim never documented and wrong.
019 62/5h: "- - - Allah guides not - - -". Allah can guide nobody unless he exists - and if he uses the Quran with all its errors, what is the value of such guiding?.
020 62/5k: "- - - do wrong". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
021 62/6b: "(Jews)! If ye think ye are friends to Allah - - -". There hardly is a Jew thinking he is a friend to Allah - they think, or hope, they are friend to Yahweh - in spite of Muhammad's repeated, but as normal for him never proved, claims, the two are not the same god.
###022 62/6c: “- - - then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!” An impossible demand for pious Jews and Christians: For one thing life has its values for everybody. More essential for them: Life is a gift from Yahweh/God – to wish to end it is to diminish a gift from Him. Most serious: To willfully end your own life, is a sin so grave that it automatically sends you to Hell.
Any god had known this – Muhammad obviously not. Then who made the Quran?
In a way worse: Muslim scholars today and for centuries have known the fact that seeking your own death is such a grave sin in Jewism and even more so in Christianity, that it sends you to Hell. But they never mention it, in spite of using this argument. Dishonesty.
The under-laying claim is contradicted by religious, historical and psychological facts.
023 62/7a: "But never will they (Jews*) express their desire (for Death) - - -". See 62/6b just above.
024 62/7b: "But never will they (Jews*) express their desire (for Death), because of the (deeds) their (Jews, Christians*) hands have sent before them (bad deeds they have done*)!" Muhammad either believes or pretends to believe in this wrong presumption - but see 62/6b above. Anyhow it is psychologically a good argument for inducing distaste for them in his followers.
025 62/7d: "And Allah knows well those who do wrong". The hard fact: Not unless he exists and is something supernatural.
026 62/7e: "- - - do wrong". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.
027 62/8b: "- - truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See 2/2b above.
028 62/8e: "- - - the Knower of things secret and open - - -". = Allah, but this claim is wrong if he made the Quran - the maker of that book knew little or nothing of what at that time was secret and made huge lots of mistakes when postulating f.x. scientific facts - facts any omniscient god had known. Then who made the Quran?
Not to mention: If he knows everything, why then does he have to test even his followers?
029 62/8h: "- - - (the truth - - -) - - -". See 2/2b, 13/1g and 40/45 above.
###030 62/9c: "- - - prayer - - -". What is the idea with and the effect of prayers in Islam? The Quran MANY places states that Allah predestines absolutely everything, and he predestines it according to his Plan, which nobody and nothing can change. And he predestines it long time before it is going to happen - he f.x. according to Hadiths predestines whether you are going to end in Hell or Heaven already when you are a 4 months old fetus = 5 months before you are born. Now the Quran tells that man also has free will - a necessary claim not to make Allah very unjust when he sends a person to Hell for sins (or for that case rewards him for good deeds) - but those are two things which are impossible even for an omniscient and omnipotent god to combine. Give man even the slightest degree of free will, and the laws of chaos inexorably finish off full predestination - the god can make things happen by adjusting this and that, but the moment man gets the possibility to change his mind once more about something, full predestination is gone - and the same is full precognition. Even Islam admits that full predestination is impossible to combine with free will of man (some claim that partly free will is possible, but that is wrong - the laws of chaos are very clear on that point; the so-called "butterfly effect" kicks in): We quote ###(A6/141 - comment to verse 6/149): “In other words, the real relationship between Allah’s knowledge of the future (and, therefore, the ineluctably of what is to happen in the future) on one side, and man’s free will, on the other – two propositions which, on the face of it, seem to contradict one another – is beyond man’s comprehension; but since both are postulated by Allah, both must be true". But here Islam is leaving religion, and entering pure mysticism and occultism. In the non-material realms of life there are things impossible even for an omniscient and omnipotent god. Proofs for this in 6/149a above.
If there is complete predestination in Islam, like the Quran states as absolute several places in the Quran, also prayers can have no effect in this religion - everything is already decided and nothing can be changed in Allah’s long since predestined Plan. To claim the opposite just is mysticism, not religion.
Combine this with 67/9c and you get a dark picture.
Also forgiving is impossible in Islam if nothing can change Allah's predestined Plan.
031 62/10b: "- - - prayer - - -". See 62/9c above.
032 62/10c: "- - - celebrate the Praises of Allah - - -". This will be in vain if he does not exist and in addition is a god (not to mention the effect if he exists, but belongs to the dark forces, which a number of his(?) rules may indicate).
033 62/10d: "- - - celebrate the Praises of Allah - - - that ye (Muslims*) may prosper". There will be no such effect unless he exists and is something supernatural (not necessarily a god).
034 62/11e: "The (blessing) from the Presence of Allah is better than any amusement or bargain". Definitely wrong if Allah does not exist or is not a (good) god, like the reality in and with the Quran indicates.
035 62/11f: "And Allah is the Best to provide for all needs". A good slogan and a good claim - but as always in the Quran never clearly proved.
8251 + 35 = 8286 remarks.
Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".
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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".