1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 44

 

SURAH 44: AD-DUKHAN (The smoke)

(Mecca, 616-619 AD)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

##002 44/2b: “By the Book (the Quran*) that makes things clear - - -.” Which also must mean the language is not hiding other meanings, and it is intended that everything shall be meant like it is said and easy to understand, plus it explains things in ways clear to see. Also see 11/1b, 19/97, 26/2, and 43/2 above.

Also see the chapter "Literal language in the Quran - according to the Quran" in "1000+ Comments on the Quran", Book H2.

###003 44/2d: (YA4689): "The Quran is its own evidence". Wrong - and this should have been written with capital letters. Islam has no proofs for anything central in its religion - no proof for the existence of Allah, no proof for Allah being a god, no proof for the Quran coming from a deity, not to mention being a revered "mother book" in Heaven, no proof for Muhammad's connection to a god, not even a proof for Muhammad being a good or a reliable person. Partly because of this, Muslims always have been on the look-out for things they could use as proofs. And one such claimed "proof", is that the Quran is a proof or proves itself. Claims like the language is so perfect that it must be made by a god (there are many weak points in the language), that only a god could make such a book without contradictions (there are at least 300 - 400 contradictions in the book), that nobody but a god could make such a book totally without mistakes (there may be as many as unbelievable 3ooo mistakes in that after all small book), that only a god could make such a good literature - a claim you should tell no-one who really knows how good literature is written. Etc. The only thing the Quran with all its miserable mistakes, etc. proves, is that no god ever was involved in making it - it is slander and heresy against any omniscient god to accuse him of making a book of a quality like the Quran. And thus it at the same time proves that something is seriously wrong with Islam.

Besides: To prove the Quran by means of the Quran is a so-called circular proof. Circular proofs are by definition invalid, as they proves nothing.

It tells something about the value of proofs for Islam that it tries strongly to find proofs. And it tells even more that one has to resort to this kind of fast talk.

"A proof is one or more proved facts which can give only one conclusion". There is not one "proof" or even "sign" about Allah or about the origin of the Quran in the Quran, which satisfy this minimum requirement.

004 44/3a: “We (Allah*) sent it (the Quran) down - - -". No god ever sent down a book of a quality like the Quran.

005 44/3e: "- - - (- - - Evil)". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

006 44/3f: (A44/4): "The revelation of the Quran is but a continuation and, indeed, the climax of all divine revelations which has been going on since the very dawn of human consciousness".

To comment on the last first: How far back do we have to go to find forefathers who were not conscious beings? There f.x. is no doubt that Homo Erectus were conscious beings - but how much further back in time to find "the very dawn of human consciousness"? At least a few million years. Which means that Islam has been taught on Earth for a few million years at least. You are free to believe it if you want. But no trace of Islam older than 610 AD when Muhammad started his preaching, has ever been found anywhere.

But the main point here is that the Quran is so different from the Bible, and especially from NT and its New Covenant, and Muhammad so different from the Jewish prophets included Jesus, that it takes a lot of naivety or/and blindness to be able to believe in claims that Muhammad belonged to the Jewish line of prophets or that Islam is from the same god as the two other religions. That someone makes an undocumented claim, does not mean that the claim is true - and when it is claimed in a book full of mistakes, told by a man of a very doubtful moral, but with much to gain from making people believe in his new religion, there are extra reasons for being careful.

The Quran simply is an apocryphal book far away from Yahweh. So far away that it normally is not even counted among the apocryphal ones.

007 44/5b: "(wisdom - the Quran - is sent*) - - - from Our (Allah's*) presence". The Quran claims it is an exact copy of the claimed "Mother of the Book" (13/39b and 43/4b-c above, and 85/21-22 below), and according to Islam either made by Allah before creation of the world, or never created, but existed since eternity - even though both angels and Muhammad speak in it, and even though if man has even the smallest part of free will, this gives hundreds and may be more historical or time anomalies. It is further claimed that the claimed "Mother Book" is so excellent that it is revered by Allah and his angels in his Heaven. Please engage your knowledge and brain and not only your eyes, and read the Quran - an exact copy of this claimed "Mother Book" - and see for yourself what that book really is worth.

008 44/5e: "- - - (revelations) - - -". But were they really revelations? - in case from whom? As no god was involved - because a thing is claimed and even repeated, it is not necessarily true - there remains these possibilities: Dark forces, a sick brain (f.x. TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - like modern medical science suspects), or a cold, scheming brain - perhaps Muhammad's.

That it is a revelation from a god, clearly is not true - too much is wrong and/or of sorry quality in the Quran.

009 44/5-6: "For We (Allah*) (ever) send (revelations), as a Mercy from thy (Muhammad's? Muslims'? People's?) Lord (Allah*) - - -". But a number of the claimed revelations are wrong and cannot be from an omniscient god. Also the contents of some of them looks like sent from dark forces and not from a good and benevolent god, a fact which gives food to the suspicion that Muhammad did not meet Gabriel, but someone from the dark forces dressed up like Gabriel - a mere human would not have a chance to see the difference. Or that it is made by a cold human brain.

###As for Gabriel there is a strange fact in the Quran: He is never mentioned in the surahs from Mecca. Not until after he came to Medina did Muhammad start claiming he got his information(?) and messages(?) from Gabriel. If Muhammad really had got - or even only believed he got - the claimed messages from an angel, and even a central one, this had been such a strong agument that there is no chance Muhammad had not told about this - and often - during the first difficult 13 years in Mecca. Something is wrong. What is the explanation?

010 44/6a: "(The Quran is sent down*) as a Mercy - - -". Please, please read the 22 - 24 surahs from Medina (according to Islam's rules for abrogation - making points in the Quran invalid when two or more contradicts - these are the dominant surahs mostly), skip the glorious words and read the demands, deeds, introduced rules, moral codes, etc. - the realities. And also use your knowledge and your brain and not only your eyes when you read. How much mercy and how much of the opposite do you find?

Whenever there is a gap between nice words and realities, we believe in the realities.

011 44/6b: "(The Quran is sent down*) as a Mercy from thy (Muhammad’s/Muslims’*) Lord (Allah*) - - -". If Allah was behind the Quran, he neither has much brain, nor much knowledge. And also little real mercy or real goodness or benevolence.

012 44/6c: “He (Allah*) hears and knows (all things) - - -”. See 2/233h, 40/75 and 41/12 above.

013 44/7a: "The Lord (Allah*) of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth and all between them - - -". Often claimed, never proved - neither Allah nor Muhammad were ever able to prove anything at all of any essence. And in all other aspects of life blind belief is the surest way to be cheated.

014 44/8a: "There is no deity save Him (Allah*) - - -". This depends on 3 things:

Does Allah at all exist? - neither Allah nor Muhammad was ever able to produce the slightest proof for this claim.

Is he in case a god? - neither Allah nor Muhammad was ever able to produce the slightest proof for this claim, too. He f.x. may belong to the dark forces. Muhammad - a mere human - would not have the slightest chance to see the difference.

Are there really no other gods? - there f.x. is the nagging question about Yahweh, whom both the Bible and the Quran tell exists (though the Quran wrongly mixes him up with Allah*).

015 44/8b: "- - - it is He (Allah*) Who gives life and death - - -". That Allah and his Muslims give death, is neither new nor unknown. But that he gives life is an interesting claim repeated several places in the Quran - interesting because there is no proof for the claim, only never documented claims and words. Whereas Yahweh proved his power on this point several times if the Bible and/or the Quran tell(s) the truth on this point.

016 44/8c: "- - - (Allah is*) the Lord and Cherisher to - - - your earliest ancestors". The Quran claims that Islam was the original religion and the religion of even the first humans. Man is much older - a few million years since our very first forefather - but modern man - Homo Sapiens - emerged 160ooo - 200ooo years ago (the latest findings may indicate ca. 195ooo years ago). During all that time there is not one single trace of a religion like Islam until after 610 AD, when Muhammad started his preaching (actually he started it for real in 613 AD) - not in old artifacts, not in architecture, not in stone carvings, not in history, not in literature, not even in legends or fairy tales. What comes closest, were the Mosaic and the Christian religions, but their god was Yahweh, not Allah - two clearly different gods, as the basic elements of their religions were very different on too many points (especially easy to see if you compare to NT and its New Covenant).

017 44/9: "Yet they (skeptics*) play about in doubt". Of course, as at least some of them - and a major percentage of the many Jews in the area - already then saw that something was very wrong in Muhammad's new religion.

018 44/13a: "- - - the Message - - -". The Quran. But was it really a message? - and in case from whom?

019 44/13d: "- - - a Messenger (Muhammad*) explaining things clearly - - -". There is no doubt Muhammad meant he/the Quran explained things clearly - a fact to be remembered each time Muslims try to explain away mistakes in the Quran by claiming it is not clear text, but parables or something.

But all the same a very central point here is that the Quran itself means that Muhammad explained things clearly. This indicates that also his most central explanations - the ones in the Quran - are meant to be very clear, which again indicate that the texts are meant to be literal, if nothing else is said of indicated.

######More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what is parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy or clear.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran are clear, explained by Allah - or here Muhammad - and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1b, 17/12h, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, #44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19 Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims lying under such "explanations".)

020 44/14e: "- - - (Muhammad is*) a man possessed!" There is a clear possibility that this claim was correct, as modern medical science suspects he had the mental disease Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - TLE. This mental disorder can give just the kind of religious "experiences" Muhammad claimed. Remember that in the real old days one often believed that a person with a mental disorder, simply was possessed by a bad spirit.

021 44/15b: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

022 44/15c: "- - - truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See 2/2b above.

When used in the Quran words like "true", "truth", "truly", "sure" "surety", "surely", "verity", "verily", etc. are claims, not proved facts. Also see 2/2b, 67/9c - a strong one - and as for contradictions to the Bible also 40/20b. Also the latter half of the comments to 41/39a is very relevant. These and similar words cannot be taken at face value unless they are proved.

023 44/15b: "- - - indeed - - -". See 2/2b above.

024 44/15c: "- - - truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See 2/2b above.

When used in the Quran words like "true", "truth", "truly", "sure" "surety", "surely", "verity", "verily", etc. are claims, not proved facts. Also see 2/2b, 67/9c - a strong one - and as for contradictions to the Bible also 40/20b. Also the latter half of the comments to 41/39a is very relevant. These and similar words cannot be taken at face value unless they are proved.

025 44/16b: "- - - We (Allah*) will indeed (then) exact Retribution!" This Allah can do only if he exists and only if he in addition is a real god. Well, he may be able to do things also if he belongs to the dark forces.

026 44/18c: "I (Moses*) am to you a Messenger worthy of all trust". This was one of the claims Muhammad told about himself, and in the Quran you find several claimed or real(?) prophets using the same expression - it impressed to his followers that this was a normal statement for prophets, and thus that it for one thing was ok for Muhammad to demand all trust from them, and for another that he was a normal prophet behaving like other prophets.

027 44/19d: "- - - manifest". See 2/2b above. Though if we say the authority was from Yahweh, not from Allah, this may be correct according to the Bible.

028 44/22b: "- - - sin". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, compared to in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exist. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

029 44/23a: "(Allah said*) March forth with My servants (the Jews*) by night - - -". Naive and wanting on logic: What had to happen if the Jews had left stealthily and against the will of the mighty pharaoh like indicated here? An angry army had been hot on their heels the very next morning. And a marching army can march 2 - 3 times as fast as a large group of civilians strolling along together with their children and animals. They would be overtaken in hours.

030 44/25-28: “Thus (was their (pharaoh Ramses II and his men*) end)! - - -”. We know from other parts of the Quran that the end was drowning. Wrong, at least for Ramses II himself - he did not die by drowning (if he had done, you bet three religions had screamed about it!), and he only died years later - in 1213 BC - than the possible exodus in ca. 1235 BC according to science.

031 44/28: "- - - and We (Allah*) made other people inherit (the drowned Egyptians*) - - -". Wrong. There are no historical indications for that that not their own people inherited them - on the contrary, the reign of Ramses II was a stable period, (and Ramses II's inheritor to the throne was his son Merneptah). But to claim that other people inherited them, is in line with Muhammad's often repeated claim about other cases where a people or a group of people disappeared - - - always because of punishment because of sins against Allah, according to Muhammad.

032 44/30a: "We (Allah*) delivered the Children of Israel from humiliating punishment - - -". According to the Bible the Jews had been reduced from honored guests to slaves over a period of 430 years since Joseph. In addition the pharaoh had started killing their male babies, because they had become so many that the Egyptians found them to be a threat and wanted to reduce their numbers.(This f.x. was the reason why the baby Moses was set afloat on the Nile in a desperate hope of saving him).

But a central point here is that according to the Bible it was Yahweh who helped them out, not Allah.

033 44/33a: “- - - Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

034 44/33b: "- - - manifest - - -". See 2/2b above.

035 44/33c: "- - - trial - - -". The Quran indicates a trial by Allah, but if this had been correct: Why does an omniscient and omnipotent god need to try his followers?

036 44/37b: "We (Allah*) destroyed them (the Tubba - see 44/37a just above*) because they were guilty of sin". There were traces and rumors from and about earlier people different places in and outside Arabia. Muhammad claimed they all were destroyed because of sins against Allah. Science knows a number of other possible explanations for their disappearance in a harsh and warlike country.

037 44/37c: "- - - guilty of sin". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, than in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exist. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

038 44/38a: "We (Allah*) created not the heavens (plural and wrong*), the earth, and all between them, merely in (idle) sport". There is nowhere proved he did so for any other reason, too.

039 44/39a: "We (Allah*) created them (the heaven and the earth or perhaps the people*) - - -". See 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c+e and 41/15f above.

040 44/39b: "- - - just - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code, partly unethical ethical code, and partly unjust judicial code.

041 44/39c: "- - - most of them (the skeptics*) do not understand". Perhaps that was just what they did - understood that something was wrong with this new religion.

042 44/40a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See 2/2b above.

When used in the Quran words like "true", "truth", "truly", "sure" "surety", "surely", "verity", "verily", etc. are claims, not proved facts. Also see 2/2b + 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones - and as for contradictions to the Bible also 40/20b. Also the latter half of the comments to 41/39a is very relevant. These and similar words cannot be taken at face value unless they are proved.

043 44/41b: "The day when no protector can avail his client in aught - - -". This is contradicted by verses in the Quran saying that a few could help others if Allah permitted it, and by statements that Muhammad had permission to intervene also this day - one of the reasons why it was wise to befriend Muhammad in this life. It also is contradicted by the possibility of that f.x. Yahweh may have a word to say.

044 44/42b: "- - - Allah's Mercy - - -". See 2/2b above.

045 44/42c: "- - - He (Allah*) is Exalted in Might - - -". This is often claimed in the Quran, but never clearly shown - if shown at all.

046 44/42d: "- - - He (Allah*) is Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, and the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we at least always believe in the demands and deeds - words are too cheap to use and disuse.

#047 44/43-46: “Verily the tree of zaqqum will be the food of the Sinful – like molten brass; it will boil in their insides. Like the boiling of scalding water.” Also Hell is earth-like in that the sinners need food and drink – which also become parts of their sadistic torture. What they get to drink mostly is boiling or more hot, but a few times may be colder than ice. And the food is from the zaqqum tree, from the thorny dari bush or “corruption from wounds”.

Neither the need to eat and drink neither the zakkum nor the dari - or any other - tree or bush nor infected wounds is found in the Bible's Hell.

###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.

048 44/49: "Truly wast thou (inmates of Hell*) mighty, full of honor!" If you read the Quran, you will see that Muhammad normally stressed that victims of Allah's punishment were mighty and powerful people. This made his god look greater and mightier. But why does a claimed omniscient god need to be enlarged? And how do you really enlarge such a god? - not in reality pathetic ways like this at least.

Another possible - or additional - motif for hassling the rich and mighty, is the fact that for many years - until well after it started to pay well to follow Muhammad - his followers mainly were from the poor classes, and damning the rich ones to hell, was pep-talk for his poor followers.

049 44/51c: "- - - Righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.

050 44/53: "Dressed in fine silk and rich brocade - - -". The Quran's paradise is like a poor and naive person's dream about earthly royal life - likely the maximum of luxury Muhammad's early followers were able to dream about. According to the Bible Yahweh's Paradise on the other hand is spiritual. One of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion.

051 44/54: “- - - and We (Allah*) shall join them to Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes.” Houris are a bit special kind of women, but the “fact” that they are given to the men arriving in Paradise as repayment for good (?) deeds, tells miles and kilometers about Islam’s view on women. Also see 37/48 above.

052 44/54b: "- - - Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes". The famous houris. Their existence in the Paradise is contradicted in the Bible - or at least never mentioned, and the bad Jews and Christians and the reliable - also according to the Quran - Jesus and all the other biblical prophets, had not forgotten such a juicy temptation. A strong proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion Also see 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

The ideas of houris to "serve" good Muslim men, Muhammad borrowed from the pagan Persia, where they were named paaris.

053 44/55: "There (in Paradise*) they (the resurrected dead*) can call for every kind of fruit - - -". Another most strong proofs for that Yahweh's and Allah's Paradises are not the same one. In Yahweh's the resurrected persons "becomes like angels" (f.x. Luke 20/36), in the Quran they are resurrected in body, though as young adults - and need food and drink and plenty of women (there is little talk of the women's life in Paradise - Islam is a religion mainly for men (also this very different from Yahweh's and Jesus' Paradise)).

054 44/57: "- - - a Bounty from thy (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*)!" If he exists - and if the Quran has told the full and only truth.

055 44/58a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 42/33a above.

When used in the Quran words like "true", "truth", "truly", "sure" "surety", "surely", "verity", "verily", etc. are claims, not proved facts. Also see 2/2b + 13/1g and 67/9c - 2 strong ones - and as for contradictions to the Bible also 40/20b. Also the latter half of the comments to 41/39a is very relevant. These and similar words cannot be taken at face value unless they are proved.

######056 44/58b: “Verily, We (Allah*) have made this (Quran) easy - - -". No god ever made a book as full of wrong facts, other errors, contradictions, unclear language, etc. like the Quran.

######FOR M U C H MORE ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE QURAN CLAIMS ITS LANGUAGE IS CLEAR AND LITERAL AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND, SEE 44/58b, 44/58d, AND 44/58e in "1000+ Comments on the Quran" - OUR BOOK F UNDER http://www.1000mistakes.com. Added 2014: Also see our book: "The Quran in the Quran" when it comes.

6972 + 56 = 7028 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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