1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 39

 

SURAH 39: AZ-ZUMAR (The Crowds)

(615-617 AD)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 39/1a: "The revelation - - -". But is a book with so much wrong really a revelation? - and in case from whom? As no god ever was involved in a work with so much errors, contradictions, etc, there remain 3 possibilities: Dark forces, a sick brain (f.x. TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy), of a cold, scheming brain (f.x. Muhammad's own).

003 39/1b: “The revelation of this Book (the Quran*) is from Allah”. No. NO god has ever been involved in a book of a quality like the Quran. See 38/29a-d above.

004 39/1c: "- - - Allah, the Exalted in Power - - -". He in case never has proved his power.

005 39/1d: “(Allah is*) Full of Wisdom”. See 38/29a-d above. If the Quran is from Allah, he is not full of wisdom – too many mistakes, etc.

006 39/2b: “Verily it is We (Allah*) Who have revealed the Book (the Quran*) - - -”. Is that really so? Verily, it is impossible to believe so - too many mistakes, etc. No god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran. See 38/29a-d above.

007 39/2e: “(Allah has*) revealed the Book (the Quran*) to thee (Muhammad*) in Truth“. Can it really be the truth that Allah has sent down a book like this, with so many errors? That this is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact. - see 2/2b, 13/1g, and 40/75 above. In that case Allah cannot be omniscient. Something is wrong.

008 39/3a: "Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due?" No. Not unless he really exists and is a major god. There only exist claims for his existence, and on top of all just in a book full of mistakes, and dictated by a man of very doubtful moral standing (this in spite of Muslims' glorification of him - also Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were glorified by themselves and by their followers - especially by the mentally blind ones and the ones who had things to gain by believing or "believing"). Also see 39/2f just above.

Besides: According to the Bible it is Yahweh who deserves all devotion.

009 39/3d: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See 2/2b above.

010 39/3e: "Truly Allah will judge - - -". Only possible if he exists and is something supernatural (but beware that he also can "judge" if he in case belongs to the dark forces.)

011 39/4b: "Had Allah wished to take to Himself a son, He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create - - -". Which may be was what he did (but which neither Muhammad nor Islam could/can accept because for one thing then Muhammad is not the greatest of (self proclaimed) prophets, and for another: Then they must admit that something is seriously wrong with their religion. Better with blind belief (taqlid), than to have to do a real check, and may be find out the religion is a made up one.

012 39/4c: "- - - Glory be to Him (Allah*)!" Please read 1/1a above and see if you think he deserves it - if he exists.

013 39/4d: "(He (Allah*) is above such things (having a son))". The Quran is not made by any god - no god uses so many wrong facts and other mistakes. And who else but a god knows what is above a god or what is his wish? Invalid argument as it is lacking a basis for the conclusion, as the underlying arguments are invalid.

##014 39/4e: (MA 39/4) "He (Allah*) is "limitless in His glory" - i.e. complete in His excellence and utterly remote from all imperfection - He is 'ipso facto' ('eo ipso' in the more reliable Swedish 2002 edition) remote from the incompleteness inherent in the need of, or desire for, progeny, which logically precludes the possibility of His having a son". The logic here is wrong - a wish for company or a co-worker does not have to be because of an imperfection. And wrong also because:

1. Mr. Azad here presumes he knows how a god thinks or wishes. No-one knows that. Then it impossible to make logical conclusions about a god's thoughts, conclusions and deeds, like Mr. Asad here does, as one does not have the necessary knowledge.

2. From the same logic there also would be no angels - no omniscient and omnipotent god needs angels. According to the Quran there all the same are thousands and millions and more of them.

3. The god may have had other reasons for wanting Jesus, than the wish for progeny.

##This argument is an "ad hock" construction made up - partly outside the rules for logical conclusions - for to explain away a problem. You find quite a number of such ones in Islam - frequently outside the rules for logical conclusions like here (often simply omitting facts which would make the conclusion invalid - like here omitting the fact that no human really can know how a god thinks).

##015 39/4f: (YA4246): "It is blasphemy to say that Allah begot a son. If that were true, He should have had a wife - - -". This argument is nonsense in this case. For one thing Islam claims that Allah is the same god as Yahweh, and it is known that in the really old times Yahweh had a female companion - his Amat (source New Scientist and others). Even if this is not widely known, it is unlikely that a learned man like Abdullah Yusuf Ali did not know it. And what is 110% sure he knew, is that according to the Quran if the god wished something "He just could say 'Be' and it was" - the god just could say "Be a son" and Jesus was. This simply is one of the many places where Muslims find the answer they want, by omitting facts which make their wanted answer invalid and often even impossible. To emit the second possibility at least was - and is - dishonesty, as it is fully accepted in Islam that Allah can create whatever he wants.

And: Is it blasphemy to say that Allah begot a son? We believe it is more blasphemy to say: "We know better than Allah what he wants and what reasons he has".

016 39/5a: “He (Allah*) created the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth in true (proportions)”. True to Muhammad’s picture of the heaven(s) and the Earth - the Earth f.x. is flat like a disk in the Quran. And 7 heavens above + 7 earths (65/12b below). And just not “in true proportions”. Wrong. Also see 11/7a above.

017 39/5d: "He (Allah*) has subjected the sun and the moon (to His law) - - -". See 11/7a above.

018 39/5e: “- - - each one (the sun and the moon) follows a course - - -“. As related to the Earth (and that relation was all Muhammad knew about), the sun does not follow a course. It is the Earth which runs a course around it.

019 39/5g: "Is He (Allah*) not the Exalted in Power? - - -" He at least never unmistakably has proved his power. He has not even proved his very existence. In addition we are back to the name Yahweh.

020 39/5h: "He (Allah*) Who forgives again and again - - -". There only are 2 who can forgive, the victim and a god. Then this quote only is true if Allah exists and is a god.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

021 39/6c: "- - - then (Allah*) created, of like nature, his (Adam's*) mate (Eve - the name is nowhere given in the Quran, only in the Bible*) - - -". One more never proved claim in the Quran. But see 39/6b just above.

022 39/6d: “He (Allah*) sent down for you eight head of cattle - - -”. According to science, cattle are not sent down, but have developed. AND THERE ARE MORE THAN 4 KINDS. Also see 39/6d just below.

023 39/6k: "There is no god but He (Allah*) - - -". Well, as the Quran testifies there was a god for the old Jews and Christians - Yahweh - but (inadvertently) makes it clear this god cannot have been Allah like they claim, as there are too big and too fundamental differences between the teachings, at least one thing is clear here: Either there are more than one god, or at least one of these two (not to mention others) does not exist, if this sentence is correct. Which one?

024 39/6l: "- - - then how are you (non-Muslims*) turned away (from your true Centre (Allah*)) - - -". If Allah does not exist, he is no kind of center, and if there in addition exists a real god somewhere, the rumors or claims about Allah are way off any center. Though he may be a kind of a center if he is from the dark forces.

025 39/7a: "- - - truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See 2/2b above.

##026 39/7e: “No bearer of burdens can bear the burdens of another”. Can this really be true? In that case this is yet another proof for that Allah cannot be the same god as Yahweh, because one of the things Yahweh stresses in the NT via Jesus, is that a good Christian shall help others with their burdens.

027 39/7f: (A39/11): “If ye (people*) reject Allah - - -.” Or: “- - - if you are ungrateful - - -“. Not exactly the same meaning? Both are possible from the original Arab text.

028 39/7h: "In the end, to your (peoples'*) Lord (Allah*) is your Return - - -". Often claimed, never documented.

029 39/7j: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b and 13/1g above.

030 39/7k: "For He (Allah*) knoweth well all that is in (men's) hearts". See 2/233h above.

031 39/8b: "- - - misleading others from Allah's Path". Who is misleading who if the Quran is a made up book - and it at least is from no god - and Allah does not exist? - especially if there instead exists another god somewhere whom Muslims are prohibited from looking for?

032 39/8e: "- - - blasphemy - - -". It is not blasphemy do doubt Allah's existence if he does not exist, or if he exists, but is not a major god. Yes, it hardly is blasphemy even if he is a top god, as there are no clear indications - not to mention proofs - for his existence.

And how to blaspheme him if he belongs to the dark forces?

033 39/8f: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f. ex 39/2a above.

034 39/9a: “Is one (Muslim*) who worship devotedly during the hours of the night - (like one who does not (non-Muslim*)) - - -?” According to the Quran there is a big difference. And who in a primitive or brainwashed audience or in an audience WANTING to believe, understand they are manipulated? But what if the Quran is made up? - as it is not from any god (too much is wrong) it must be made in some other way.

035 39/9d: “Are those equal, those who know (Muslims*) and those (non-Muslims*) who do not know?” A rhetoric question expecting the answer "No". But what about the ones where the knowledge is not knowledge, but belief, compared to the ones able to see that something is seriously wrong in that belief?

036 39/9e: “Are those equal, those who know and those who do not know?” Statements and questions like this you find several places in the Quran, and they are a psychological efficient way to build up a belief in “our” own superiority and the opponents’ inferiority and badness. Many dictators frequently use similar technique - be it countries or organizations. The not too intelligent and/or those with limited education mostly do not understand they are manipulated. Also there is another point: What is the situation if the Quran is a made up book? - a relevant question as no book with that much wrong, is from any god.

037 39/9i: "- - - those who do not know - - -". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims. But who is the wisest - the person who is blindly believing he knows, or the one who sees that something is wrong?

038 39/9k: “It is those who are endued with understanding that receives admonition”. This is another efficient way of manipulating: Flattery. Especially the ones not endued with too much understanding - moderate intelligence and/or education (and in this case religious education and other education which do not include education in critical thinking do not count) - easily like to believe things like this. It makes their self esteem swell. And if other groups in addition are said to be inferior to them, that surely does not hurt their self esteem either.

039 39/9m: "- - - receive admonition". - from a book of a quality like the Quran?!

040 39/10b: "Fear your Lord (Allah*) - - -". Why, if he does not exist? - or if he is not something supernatural, white or black?

041 39/10c: "- - - your (people's*) Lord (Allah*) - - -". Allah is nobody's lord unless he exists and is something supernatural (remember he can be your lord/ruler even if he belongs to the dark forces).

042 39/10d: "- - - good is (the reward) - - -". If the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth.

043 39/10g: "- - - do good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

044 39/10j: "Those who patiently persevere will truly receive a reward without measure!" Yes, if Allah exists, if he is a major god, and if the Quran in addition has told the full truth and only the truth about him.

With a Quran clearly from no god - too much is wrong - this claim at least is not "truly". And if Allah is something dressed up from the dark forces - Muhammad would have no chance to see the difference - it is just guesswork what Muslims will receive if there is a next life.

045 39/10l: "- - - truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See 2/2b above.

046 39/11b: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 39/2a. This goes even more in the cases where - like here - Muhammad is speaking; the man who institutionalizes al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth) and advised and practiced even broken oaths if that gave a better result.

#047 39/12b: (likely 615-617 AD:) “And I (Muhammad*) am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam.” How is that possible if the Quran is correct and lots of people had been Muslims before him, and bowed to Allah? (Though in reality it is highly likely he was right: That he was the first one ever). Muslims explain that it means the first in a community, but that is not what the Quran says. Besides both Abraham and Ishmael according to what the Quran claims, lived and of course preached in Mecca - at least for some time - and there according to the Quran also were Hud, Salih, and Shu'ayb. Also see 6/14d above.

(At least 6 contradictions).

048 39/13b: "I (Muhammad*) would - - - indeed have fear for the Penalty of a Mighty Day". See 3/77b above. But also: If Muhammad knew that what he told was made up, he had no reason to fear - at least not Allah. But if he was mentally ill, he may honestly have believed at least parts of what he told, at least in the beginning (it is clear he lied about at least a few points).

049 39/14b: "It is Allah I (Muhammad*) serve - - -". This may - may - be true if Allah existed and was something supernatural - white or dark. If not, Allah only served Muhammad - like many gods of many a self-proclaimed "prophet" through the times (though not with as much success as Muhammad).

050 39/15e: "Truly, those in loss are those who lose their own souls and their People on the Day of Judgment". The intended meaning here only may be correct if Allah exists and is a god, and if the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth about the possible next life, and also about how to qualify for it.

Thought provoking: What does this quote mean if the Quran is a made up book - and at least no book of that quality is from any god - and Islam thus a made up religion?

051 39/15f: "That is indeed the (real and) evident Loss!" Yes - but only if a book not from any god and with lots of mistaken facts and other errors, is right on this point.

052 39/16b: "- - - with this doth Allah warn - - -". Once more: This only can be true if Allah exists and is something supernatural - white or dark.

053 39/16d: "- - - fear ye (people/Muslims*) Me (Allah*)!" Why, if he does not exist?

054 39/17b: "- - - Evil - - -": Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

055 39/17d: "- - - good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

056 39/18b: "Those who listen to the Word (the Quran*), and follow the (best) meaning in it: those are the ones whom Allah has guided - - -". Yes - but only if the Quran is from Allah, and no god ever made a book with so many mistakes, contradictions, etc.

####Another point: Where are Muslims lead if Allah is made up or if he is from the dark forces?

#But: If the Quran is totally clear and nothing is to misunderstand, like Islam claims, how then can it be understood in different ways - different meanings (here specified; in the best meaning of it)?

057 39/18d: "- - - the best (meaning) - - -". But what is to be understood as the best meaning? - the exact printed words in the Quran? - or the words understood according to the Quran's ethical, moral, and judicial codes? - or the same according to normal ethical, moral, and judicial codes (made in accordance with "do unto others like you want others do unto you")?. Muslims - and especially the militant ones - have a tendency to choose the meaning which fits themselves and their beliefs/wishes best, and those often are not "the best (meaning)" for anyone but themselves. Respectively if there are errors, Muslims have a very strong tendency to say that twisted words which seemingly fit the reality, or twisted reality which seemingly fits the words - or a combination - is if not the best meaning, then "the real meaning", true or not true.

058 39/18g: "- - - those (Muslims*) are the ones endued with understanding". If the Quran is from a god, the understanding is correct. If it is not from a god, the understanding is wrong. And no god ever made a book that full of mistaken facts, contradictions, etc. etc. NB: Also see 13/3j above.

059 39/19a: “Is, then, one against whom the decree of Punishment is justly due (equal to one who eschews evil)?”. Still another technique for manipulation, and in this case partly to induce really discrimination - “they” are bad people and cannot be compared to “us”. May be we even had better shun them - or worse?

060 39/19d: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

061 39/20a: “But it is for those who fear their Lord (Allah*) that lofty mansions, one above another, have been built: beneath them flow rivers (of delight).” The Quran's paradise is mainly like a luxury condominium only – even if it should be true. Yes, and with long rows of thrones shaded by trees on the greens in front. Also see 10/9f above. Nice condition, at least if you do not think things over - but never a proof for that it is true, only the claim from a man likening power and women and accepting dishonesty in many forms for working tools.

Some Muslims claim that layers in the atmosphere = the 7 heavens. How do you build lofty mansions on layers of air high up in the atmosphere? How can one walk there? What about the claimed rivers and trees? How to breathe in the 7th Heaven with no or nearly no air? Etc. Muslims are very good at finding hopeless "explanations".

062 39/20c: "- - - never doth Allah fail in (His) promise". Can all Islam and all Muslims put together give one unmistakable proof for that Allah has kept one single promise - or even given such a promise? No such proof exists anywhere - all the words about Allah and about what he promises, are just that: Words.

The best proof for this: Guess if Islam had told about it if even one such unmistakable proof had existed!

063 39/21a: This verse is one of the many places where Muhammad claims the honor of natural phenomena for his god - always without the slightest proof. Just like so many other self proclaimed prophets or believers do for their relevant god(s). Totally without any value as an indication - not to mention a proof - for Allah as long as it is not proved that Allah really did it. Worse: Who is it who has to rely on invalid proof and fast talk? Cheats and deceivers.

064 39/21e: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See f.x. 39/2a above.

065 39/22a: “Is one whose heart Allah has opened to Islam - - - (no better than one hardhearted)”. Of course Muslims are the best - at least according to the Quran. Good for the self esteem, at least for the ones needing a boost of their self-esteem - which often includes the rubble in a society.

066 39/22d: “In one whose heart has opened to Islam, so that he has received enlightenment (the contents of the Quran*) from Allah - - -”. With all the mistakes, invalid “signs”, etc. in the Quran, it at best partly gives enlightenment. Whereas the mistakes, etc., give the opposite of enlightenment.

067 39/22e: "- - - celebrate the praises of Allah!". Read 1/1a above and see if you think he deserves it - if he exists.

068 39/22f: “They (non-Muslims*) are manifestly wandering (in error)!” Islam claims that only Muslims do not “wander in error”. But it only is (like normal for Islam) an undocumented claim – it definitely is not manifested. (Another fact is that with all the mistakes and worse in the Quran, it is a very open question who is wandering in the worst error). We also should mention that claims like this is normal for fringe sects like Islam once was. This claim only is true if the Quran is completely true.

069 39/23b: “Allah has revealed - - -". Wrong if Allah is a god - no god ever was involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.

#####070 39/23c: “Allah has revealed - - - the most beautiful Message - - -”. Incitement to hate, dishonesty, suppression, extortion, taking slaves, murder, mass murder and war + full permission for raping any slave or prisoner and + 100% dictatorship by the warlord (Muhammad and his successors). Yes that is a beautiful message. (or in reality: Horrible). Or to say it in another way: If this is the most beautiful Message, we hope never to meet a normal one. .

########071 39/23d: “(The Quran*) is consistent with itself”. #########Wrong – there are plenty of contradictions. Plenty - several hundred (at least 300 internal contradictions + all the external ones)! Islam even needs a special abrogation rule for deciding which paragraph is the correct one when two or more “collide” (the youngest one is normally claimed to be the correct one - that is one of the reasons why the age of the different verses counts in Islam and why the question of ages of the surahs are integrated parts of Islamic judicial procedures). Some Muslims tell this is not true - Allah just made the rules stricter. It may look like an ok explanation in some, but only some, cases, f.x. concerning alcohol. But what kind of omniscient god did not know from the very beginning what kind of rules was needed? – besides; more strict rules also are abrogations.

Contradicted by all the contradictions in the book.

Simply an unintended joke. (F.x. see the claims that Allah predestines everything vs. man has even a little free will. Or Allah predestines everything and all the same rewards or punishes for words and deeds he predestined.

072 39/23g: "- - - the guidance of Allah - - -". See 7/192a above.

073 39/23h: "He (Allah*) guides therewith whom He pleases - - -". Here is one of the many fundamental differences between Yahweh and Allah: NT tells about a god trying to save as many as possible - if they want and are able to qualify or honestly repent, they go to Paradise. The Quran tells about a god who "guides - - - whom He pleases" and block the road for the others. One more indication for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 39/23j below.

074 39/23j: "- - - for such (humans*) as Allah leaves to stray, can have none to guide".

Wrong if Allah exists, but is from the dark forces - he hardly can override a real god and let them stray.

Wrong if Allah does not exist or if he is no major god - he then hardly can make them stray.

Wrong if other gods exist - f.x. Yahweh. Then they may have a guide.

Wrong if other gods exist - f.x. Yahweh - and they are followers of these/this god(s). Then they will have a guide. 

075 39/24f: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

076 39/27: "- - - in order that they (humans*) may receive admonition". Admonition from a book so full of errors, contradictions, etc., that it is clear it has no connection to any god?

#077 39/28b: “(It is) a Quran in Arabic, without any crookedness - - -”. Without crookedness? With all the mistakes?!! With all those contradictions?! With all the invalid “signs” and “proofs”? With all the loose claims and statements? With all the unclear texts? Such facts normally are the very hallmarks of crookedness.

#####On the other hand: This means that the texts should be understood just like they are written - no crookedness in the meaning. This is one of the points worth remembering each time Muslims or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the texts means something different from what it says.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran is clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/b, 3/138a, 11/1b, 15/1b, 17/1, 18/2a, 19/97, 20/113, 24/34, 24/54, 26/2, 27/1, 28/2, 36/69e,37/117, 39/28b, 41/3, 44/58, 54/17, 54/32, 54/40, and 745/19. Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims behind such "explanations".)

Another point: This surah is from 615-617 AD. There is a possibility for that Muhammad at that time believed there was no crookedness behind his teaching at that time. But long before 632 AD it is very clear that there were at least some "crooked" points in the texts - some of the wrong points there is no chance Muhammad did not know about (f.x. that nobody would believe even if they got real proofs for Allah) - and Muhammad did not correct points like this for it, also not in this verse. ####At least this was and is dishonesty.

078 39/28d: "- - - Evil". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. It f.x. is a great evil to refuse to go war or on raids for Muhammad or his successors - an extra informative fact as most of Muhammad's raids were for to steal/rob riches, etc. (see the list in our book "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran").

###079 39/29b: “- - - most of them (non-Muslims*) have no knowledge.” But Muslims of course have, and are much better people - - - according to the Quran. This included not one single new thought promoting the life of man in some 900 years in the entire Muslim society (from around 1ooo-1100 AD). Actually there is a well-known Hadith saying something like ‘All new ideas (“bida” in Arab*) are heresy (“wrong teaching“*), all heresy is wrong, and everything that is wrong leads to hell’. Islam found a way to moderate it a little, though: If a new idea - a “bida” - is in accordance with the Quran, with all Hadiths (there are some thousands accepted ones) and all decisions made by consensus among the leading learned Muslims through the times (such decisions are called “ijma” in Arab*), the new idea may - may - be a good “bida”.’ If not it is a bad one.

Under such conditions it is not strange that few new ideas emerges - and none that is meant to question (or conflict with) old ideas, not to mention with the religion. Even today the entire Muslim area registers fewer new patents a year, than the state of California alone. The picture is even more lopsided when it comes to knife-edge science or technology.

080 39/29c: "Praise be to Allah!" Read 1/1a above and see if he deserves it - if he exists.

081 39/31a: "In the End ye (all), on the day of Judgment, settle your disputes in the presence of your Lord (Allah*)". Only if Allah exists, is a major god, and only if the Quran has described what will happen in the claimed next life correctly.

082 39/32a: "Who, then, doth more wrong than one who utters a lie concerning Allah - - -". A question of great philosophical interest if the Quran is not from a god - and no god makes that many mistakes, etc. like you find in the Quran

083 39/32b: “- - - rejects the Truth (the Quran) - - -”. See 13/1g and 38/29 above. That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact. The book at best is partly true.

#########084 39/32c: "- - - utters a lie concerning Allah - - -". There is no bigger lie against Allah than the Quran, this whether he exists or not. Why we can say this so 100% sure and definitely, is that the book is so full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. that no god has been involved in it, not to mention a claimed omniscient god. It is not possible to say who made it, though there are good reasons for to suspect Muhammad, partly because one recognize the methods used by false prophets, partly because many of the mistakes are things one believed was correct science at his time in that area, partly because it is clear from f.x. Arabisms that it was made in or near Arabia, partly because of all the times Allah helped him with family and other personal problems, partly because he was the main benefactor, partly because it was his platform of power, and not least because the religion changed when Muhammad needed or wanted changes.

If he was mentally ill like modern medical science suspects, he can, however, partly have believed in his tales and preaching himself, at least in the beginning. But he was too intelligent and knew too much about people not to know that he was lying some times, even in surahs and verses in the Quran. Some things there is not possible for an intelligent person knowing people to believe.

But if one believes in supernatural beings, there also is the possibility that the Quran is from the dark forces. If f.x. the Devil dressed up like the angel Gabriel no human - included Muhammad - would have a chance to know the difference. The partly immoral moral code, the partly unethical ethical code, the partly unjust judicial code, the permission of stealing/robbing, raping, suppressing, enslaving, murdering, etc., etc., may point in this direction.

Also see 34/8b above.

085 39/32e: "- - - blasphemers - - -". Blasphemy in connection to Islam only is possible if Allah exists and is a god, both of which only are claims in a book full of mistakes and told by a man of doubtful moral and reliability (believing in al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), cheating and even in broken oaths if that gave a better result - and liking power and riches for bribes for more power - and women).

086 39/33b: “And he (Muhammad - see the rest of the sentence in 39/33d below*) who brings the Truth and he who confirms (and supports) it - - -“. The Quran at best is partly true – also see f.x. 13/1g, 40/75 and 41/12. Similar claim in 37/37.

087 39/33c: "- - - confirming it (the Quran*) - - -". There is some irony in glorifying "confirming" of a book full of errors, etc.

088 39/33f: "- - - doing right". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

089 39/34a: "They (good Muslims*) shall have (in Paradise*) all that they wish for - - -". See 10/9f above.

090 39/34b: "They (good Muslims*) shall have (in Paradise*) all that they wish for, in the presence of their Lord (Allah*) - - -". But only if Allah exists, is a major god, and only if the Quran is reliable at least on this point.

091 39/34d: "- - - do good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

092 39/36a: "Is not Allah enough for His servant?" No - at least not if he does not exist - there only is Muhammad's unproved words for his existence (see the comment to 34/8b and 39/32c above).

093 39/36d: "For such as Allah leaves to stray, there can be no guide". See f.x. 16/107 or 39/23e above.

094 39/36e: "For such as Allah leaves to stray, there can be no guide". Well, we are back to the fact that as the Quran's moral and other codes are made for a thieving, suppressing, and discriminating slave and war religion, these were so "far out", that even if Allah do not like you, a god with more normal codes of moral and conducts, may think you were a very good person and intervene - f.x. the often mentioned Yahweh.

##095 39/37a: "And such as Allah doth guide there can be none to lead astray". Wrong. As the claimed guide from Allah is the Quran, this sentence only can be true if the Quran is 100% correct on all points, and the Quran is full of many kinds of errors.

096 39/37c: "Is not Allah exalted in Power - - - ?" Well, he in case never really has proved his power. Never. Till now it has been only words - and from a man with doubtful morality.

097 39/37d: "((Allah is*) Able to enforce his Will.)" Often claimed, never proved - and even big words are cheap.

098 39/37e: "((Allah is*) Able to enforce his Will.)" Why then does he have to use humans to do the dirty work for him - destroying the lives of others, killing, raiding, waging war, terrorizing, stealing?

099 39/37f: "(Allah is*) Lord of Retribution - - -". See 39/37c above.

100 39/38h: "Sufficient is Allah for me (Muhammad/Muslims*)!" Yes - if the Quran is reliable.

101 39/38f: "- - - can they (other gods*), if Allah wills some penalty for me, remove His Penalty?". Can Allah do either of this? - not one proved case is documented in 1400 years and more. Lots of claims, but never a proved case - and claims cost nothing.

102 39/38i: "In Him (Allah*) trust those who put their trust". And they are cheated if not the Quran is 100% reliable (one of the reason why Islam can accept no mistakes in the Quran (even though they have had to accept a few, though they never mention this fact - see separate chapter in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran"). If there are mistakes in the Quran, the book is not from a god, and the religion is a made up one - a chain of logical steps in which they are very right).

103 39/40a: The intended answers to both the rhetoric questions in this verse are: Non-Muslims. But the answer only is correct if Allah exists and is a god - and if the Quran in addition has told the full truth and only the truth about the claimed next life.

104 39/41a: "Verily - - -." It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 2/2b above.

105 39/41b: ”Verily We (Allah*) have revealed the Book (the Quran*) - - -.” Can Allah have made book of this quality? Simply no. No god makes a second rate - or third rate - book. See 38/39.

106 39/41c: “Verily We (Allah*) have revealed the Book (the Quran*) to thee (Muhammad*) - - -". One ominous question was raised already in the first years, and still exists: Was the Quran revealed to Muhammad, or did Muhammad (perhaps helped by some accomplice or a mental illness - TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy)) "reveal" the Quran? In the second case Islam is a made up religion - and all the errors in the book indicate something sinister: No god ever delivered a book of that quality.

107 39/41e: “Verily We (Allah*) revealed the Book (the Quran*) - - -, for (instructing) mankind.” If Allah is a good god, like Islam pretends, why then all the immoral instructions and inhumanity one finds especially in the some 22-24 surahs from Medina? And a book with this many errors is not fit for instruction – not as a basis for the religion of a benevolent god and claimed omniscient god. That full of errors, contradictions, etc., it also is not from any god - no omniscient god makes mistakes by the hundreds and more.

108 39/41g: “He, then, that receive guidance (see 39/41c*) benefits his own soul - - -“. How can it benefit your soul to steal/loot, hate, rape, murder, mass murder (many, many cases in Muslim history), enslave, etc? It benefits your pocket – and gives Muhammad and his successors many and cheap warriors – but your soul? Wrong. This kind of life only brutalizes a man – and his culture and religion. For similar claims see 2/2 – 2/5 – 2/120 – 10/35 – 12/111 – 16/64 - 16/89 - 18/55 – 22/54 - 27/2 – 31/3 – 41/44 – 45/11 – 46/30 – 47/32 – 68/7 – 71/13 – 87/3.

109 39/41i: "- - - he (non-Muslim*) who strays (from the Quran*) injures his own soul". This only is true if the Quran is 100% correct in everything - and perhaps not even then, as Islam, and especially the parts from Medina, is a brutalizing religion.

110 39/42b: "- - - those that did not (He (Allah*) takes (the soul from*)) during their sleep". Sleep according to the Quran has to do with that Allah takes away your soul for some time. You wake up when/if he sends it back. Not exactly the explanation modern science use.

111 39/42d: "- - - for a time appointed". = For the predestined time - Allah predestines everything.

112 39/42e: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See 2/2b above.

113 39/43a: "Do they take for intercessors others beside Allah?" See 2/165c, 2/255a, 6/106b and especially 25/18a above.

114 39/44d: "- - - to Him (Allah*) belongs the dominion of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". See 39/44b above.

115 39/44g: "- - - in the End, it is to Him (Allah*) that ye (people*) shall be brought back". See 39/44b+c above.

116 39/45c: "- - - Allah, the One and Only - - -". Often claimed, but never proved in the Quran - and as the Quran is not from a god, Allah may not even exist, this even more so as his existence has never been proved, but rests only on the words of Muhammad, a man with a doubtful moral and lust for riches (for attracting and keeping followers) and power (and women). See 2/255a, 2/165c, and 26/18a above.

117 39/46b: "(Allah*). Creator of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth!" Often claimed in the Quran, never proved anywhere. See f.x. 6/1e above.

118 39/46d: "(Allah is*) Knower of all that is hidden and open". Definitely wrong if he made the Quran - f.x. far too many facts are wrong. Also see 2/233h above.

119 39/47b: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

120 39/48a: "- - - the Evil of their (non-Muslims and too bad Muslims*) Deeds will confront them (on the Day of Doom*) - - -". In the Quran your deeds in this world are more essential on the Day of Doom than in the Bible, where the benevolence of and forgiving from the god is more central there than in the Quran. This is done so from the maker of the Quran, and if this maker was Muhammad, we point to the fact that such weight-laying on deeds and obedience in this life, gave Muhammad more benefit from his followers - and more power over them. ####At least false prophets normally go for power, riches for things and more power - and sometimes women. (Real prophets mostly had other aims.)

121 39/49a: "Nay, but this is but a trial - - -". Why does an omniscient god who on top of all decides everything himself, have to try his followers? There is no logic in it.

122 39/49b: "- - - but most of them (people*) understand not!" We are back to the old fact: May be that was just what some of them did - understood that something was really wrong with Muhammad's new religion.

123 39/51a: "- - - the evil results - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.

124 39/51c: "- - - wrongdoers - - ". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.

125 39/51e: "- - - (our (Allah's*) Plan) - - -". Allah has made a Plan for everything which is going to happen in all the future, and he predestines everything according to this plan. If this is true, out of the window goes even the smallest morsel of man's claimed free will - - - and in comes a question Islam is not able to meet: How can Allah punish - and reward - humans for their deeds if he himself has predestined everything? Islam tries to cover this problem by means of mysticism ("partly free will" which the laws of chaos makes as destroying for predestination and precognition as full free will - or: "it is just that humans cannot understand how the combination of Allah's deciding of everything and man's free will is possible" - but in the immaterial parts of existence there are things impossible even for an omnipotent god), and the combination simply is not possible. (The combination = 2 claims which are mutually excluding each other, and it is long since proved that in such cases, maximum one of the claims may be true.)

126 39/52a: "Know they (people*) not that Allah enlarges the provision or restricts it, for any He pleases?" The standard Quranic explanation for why some have a better life than others, even if they are not good people or good Muslims; Allah in his unfathomable wisdom has decided it so. True or not true is another question.

127 39/52b: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 2/2b and 39/2a above.

128 39/52c: “- - - signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39 above.

129 39/53c: "- - - transgressed against their (non-Muslims*) souls". Nobody transgresses against themselves or their souls by not believing in a claimed message which obviously - because if hundreds of errors, etc. - is wrong.

130 39/53d: "- - - the Mercy of Allah - - -". See 2/2b above.

131 39/53e: "- - - for Allah forgives all sins - - -". There only are 2 who can forgive a sin; the victim and a god. For this sentence to be true, Allah has to exist and to be a god, neither of which is ever proved. There only are the words of Muhammad, and if you omit the glorifying words and just look for the realities, you also in all the central Islamic literature see that Muhammad had doubtful moral, ethics and reliability.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

132 39/53ea: "- - - sins - - -". Remember that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code - compare f.x. to "do to others like you want others do to you".

133 39/53f: "(Allah*) is Oft-Forgiving - - -". Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and in addition is a god.

Another point is that to forgive - or for that case to punish or reward or fulfill prayers - means for Allah to change his Plan considering the sinner/person, something which according to the Quran is something nobody and nothing can make him do. See 2/187d above.

134 39/53g: "(Allah*) is - - - Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral rules included in the Islamic moral code, and the unjust/immoral laws included in the sharia laws, and see if you agree - reality is much more reliable than not proved words, even words often repeated.

##135 39/54a: "Turn to our Lord (Allah*) - - -". It is not possible to turn to a god unless he exists - one may try, but if he just is a made up one, you either cheat yourself, or it is a result of that you are cheated by others.

136 39/54b: "- - - bow to His (Allah's*) (Will) - - -". Similar comment as 39/54a just above.

137 39/54e: "- - - after that (after ending in Hell*) ye (non-Muslims*) shall not be helped". This raises a question: What are the real rules for ending in Hell? As the Quran is not from a god, it is unreliable on points like this, too. Even worse: Its partly immoral moral and ethical codes may indicate that there may be something in the rumor that the Devil was involved in the making of the Quran (and honestly some of its moral and ethical rules, some of its rules for war, etc., etc. really may indicate that there may be a reason for the rumor).

138 39/55a: “And follow the Best of (the courses) (the teachings of the Quran*) revealed to you (Muslims*) from your Lord (Allah*) - - -“. A book overflowing with mistakes, twisted arguments and logic, contradictions, and even obvious lies (like that miracles would make no-one believers), is not the best pilot. And not from a good and benevolent and omniscient god.

139 39/56a: "- - - (my Duty) towards Allah - - -". Nobody has a duty towards Allah unless he exists and is one's real god.

140 39/56b: "- - - (I) was among those who mocked - - -". This is part of a pep-talk from Muhammad to his followers. But there was a reason for mocking if the Quran was/is a made up book - and with all its errors, etc. it is not from any god - and thus Islam a made up religion. Muhammad himself must take the blame for the mocking, as he did not produce one single proof for his claim, in spite of many requests for proofs and in spite of that he had to know that all experiences tell that to believe blindly in loose words is a sure way to be deceived and cheated. Muhammad only had loose words and fast-talk to offer - like so many a self proclaimed "prophet" and starters of religions or sects. There were a number of such persons during the early centuries of Christianity, which resulted in a number of apocryphal - made up - "biblical" scriptures. Is the Quran one more of those? - a very apocryphal one in case.

141 39/57a: "- - - if only Allah had guided me (a non-Muslim) - - -". Part of a pep-talk, but Allah cannot guide anyone unless he exists and in addition is a god. There has been not one proved case of guidance from Allah in 1400 years and more - a lot of claims, but not one proved case (the best proof for this is Islam's silence on this point).

Well, Allah can guide also if he is from the dark forces, and some of the many horror stories performed by Islam and by Muslims through history, may indicate something. Muslims who disagree here, should remember that they at times and not infrequently behaved much worse than the Crusaders and the Mongols, only that Islam names their own atrocities heroism and boasts from it.

142 39/57e: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.

143 39/58c: "- - - do good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.

144 39/59a: “- - - My (Allah's) Signs - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

145 39/60: "- - - lies against Allah - - -". Where is/are he/they ranged who has/have made up the Quran if it is a made up book? - and with all those mistakes, etc. it at least is from no god, as a god does not make such mistakes.

146 39/61a: "But Allah will deliver the righteous to their place of salvation - - -". Again: If Allah exists and is a god, and if the Quran in addition has told the full truth and only the truth about him.

147 39/61c: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.

148 39/61d: "- - - no evil shall touch them (good Muslims in Paradise*), nor shall they grieve". See 39/61a above.

149 39/62a: "Allah is the Creator of all things". Often claimed, never proved - and wrong unless Islam proves the opposite. See 6/1e, 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c above.

150 39/62b: "- - - He (Allah*) is the Guardian and disposer of all affairs." Allah decides everything - the predestination. The claim is never proved, though.

151 39/63a: "To him (Allah*) belong the keys of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -". Yet another of the many of Muhammad's never proved claims in the Quran.

152 39/63e: "- - - those who rejects the Sign of Allah - it is they who will be at a loss". The fact that there does not exist even one sign clearly from Allah aside: If Allah does not exist and is not a god, nobody will be at a loss because of not believing in him.

153 39/64b: "- - - O ye ignorant ones (non-Muslims*)". Accepting the contents of a book in spite of lots and lots of errors, contradictions, invalid logic, etc. also may indicate not only stubborn ignorance, but blindness like in "blind belief".

154 39/65b: "- - - revealed - - -". Is the Quran really revealed? - and in case from whom, as no god ever was involved in a book that full of mistakes, etc.?

155 39/65f: "- - - truly fruitless will thy (non-Muslim, not believing in Allah*) work (in life)". This only is true if Allah exists and is a god - and is definitely untrue if the non-Muslim believes in a really existing god (f.x. Yahweh if he exists, which he does both according to the Bible and to the Quran, even though the Quran falsely mixes him with Allah).

156 39/65h: "- - - and thou (non-Muslim*) wilt surely be in the ranks of those who loose (all spiritual good)". See 39/65f above.

157 39/66a: "- - - worship Allah - - -". What for as it is extremely unlikely he exists?

158 39/67a: "No just estimate have they (non-Muslims*) made of Allah - - -". But the reality is: If they have understood the problem with all the errors, etc. in the Quran correctly, maybe it is they who have understood the book and the religion correctly.

159 39/67d: "High is He (Allah*) above (all others*) - - -". Only if he exists and is a major god. And what about f.x. Yahweh?

160 39/69a: "- - - the Record (of Deeds) will be placed open - - -". This record is a book according to the Quran. But why does an omniscient god need such a record? And why in case does he use so primitive a means as a book? Because Muhammad did not know anything more advanced when he told the story?

161 39/69b: "- - - the witnesses will be brought forward - - -". Why does an omniscient god need witnesses?

162 39/69c: "- - - just - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes - and not to forget: Its partly unjust judicial code. Compare to "do unto others like you want others do unto you", and see for yourself.

163 39/69d: "- - - not be wronged - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.

164 39/70a: "- - - will be paid in full (the fruit) of its Deeds - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.

165 39/71a: "The Unbelievers will be led to Hell - - -". If there really exist a god and a next life, this may be true. But as the Quran with all its errors is from no god, the 64ooo dollar question is: The believers of what religion will end in Paradise? - and the rest will may be not end there. If the Quran is a made up book, Islam is a made up religion, and the Muslims will be among "the rest". Sorry, but this is an undisputable fact.

166 39/71c: “- - - Did not messengers come to you from among yourselves - - -?” No they did not. The Hadith/Islam speaks about 124ooo prophets. If so many had been working somewhere, sometime, at least a few of them had left traces. There is none. See 35/24i+j.

167 39/71e: “- - - Signs of your (peoples'*) Lord (Allah*) - - -.” Invalid as proof for Allah. See 2/39b above.

168 39/71h: "- - - true - - -". See 2/2b and 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

169 39/72: "- - - the arrogant". One of Muhammad's many negative names for non-Muslims. This one is a bit ironic, because if you leaf through Muslim history, you will find a lot of arrogance - even arrogance within Islam between groups. Arabs f.x. for centuries reckoned themselves to be better than other Muslims (which made a lot of strife). And for to mention a modern(?) sample: Muslims in large parts of Afghanistan see that their surroundings practice Islam in the same way as they themselves. Then that way may be the correct one, and Muslims in other countries practicing it differently - f.x. no beard like Muhammad - are lower quality Muslims. Etc.

170 39/73c: "Enter ye (Muslims*) here (in Paradise*), to dwell therein". If Allah exists and is a major god, and if the Quran has told 100% the truth and only the truth for once. Also see 10/9f above.

171 39/74a: "Praise be to Allah - - -". See 1/1a above - do you agree to that he deserves it?

172 39/74b: "- - - Allah, who has fulfilled his promise to us (Muslims*) - - -". For the sake of Muslims we must hope this pep-talk tells the truth. But we must remind you that never on this side of Adam there have been no single proved incidence neither of Allah giving a promise, not of him keeping one. Not even Muhammad was able to prove one millimeter about Allah (or about his own claimed connection to a god - Allah or another). Lots of claims and fast-talk, but not one valid proof.

173 39/74c: "- - - truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. Similar to 39/2a above. Also see 2/2b and 13/1g above.

174 39/74e: "- - - how excellent a reward (for Muslims*) - - -". Yes, but it only is true - if the Quran unerringly has told the full truth and only the truth.

175 39/74f: "- - - work (righteousness) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and ethical codes.

176 39/75a: “And thou will see the angles surrounding the Throne (divine) on all sides, singing Glory and Prize to their Lord (Allah*)”. As Allah lives above the 7. heaven and mere normal Muslims live far down even in Paradise - in the lowest Heaven - this sight will take a little explaining. The distance simply will be too big (especially as Hadiths indicate there is a long distance - hundreds of miles and more - between each of the heavens.

177 39/75b: "- - - (perfect) justice - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral and unethical moral and ethical codes, and not to forget in accordance with its own partly unjust judicial code.

178 39/75c: "- - - Allah, the Lord of the Worlds!". Often claimed in the Quran, never really documented anywhere. One of the very many never proved claims in the Quran.

6173 + 178 = 6351 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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