1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 37

 

SURAH 37: AS-SSFFAT (Those Ranged in Ranks)

(615-617 AD)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 37/2: "- - - (evil) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

003 37/3: "- - - the Message (the Quran*) (of Allah)!" Something is wrong here, because no god sends a message so full of mistaken facts and other mistakes, contradictions, cases of invalid/wrong logic, etc.

004 37/4a: "Verily, verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. As mentioned other places, in a book as full of mistakes, etc. as the Quran, the word "verily" is not reliable unless there are proofs - this even if the word is repeated. Also see 2/2b above.

005 37/5a: "Lord (Allah*) of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth, and all between them - - -". A standard, but never proved - not even a good, clear indication - Islamic claim, and a claim any believer in any religion can make to glorify his god, free of charge as long as he flees from proving anything.

###006 37/6a: “We (Allah*) have indeed decked the lower heaven (in) stars - - -". On more of Muhammad's high-jacking of natural phenomena to glorify his god - in this case like in some others with the bad luck that his "proof" is totally wrong - there exists no lower heaven, not to mention a lower heaven decked with stars.

This is one of the Quran's better ones.

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###007 37/6b: “We (Allah*) have indeed decked the lower heaven (in) stars - - -”. The Quran tells this in some varieties some places in the book: The stars are fastened to the lowest (37/6-7, 41/12) of the 7 heavens (which also means that the heavens have to be made from something material - if not it was not possible to fasten the stars there). The stars also are lower than the moon, as other places in the Quran tells that the moon are in between the heavens - in addition to that it here is said the stars are fastened to the lowest heaven, and as also the moon was fasten to a heaven according to the astronomy of that time, in addition to that the Quran tells it is between the heavens, the moon has to be higher than the lowest heaven. The mistake actually is borrowed from Greek and/or Persian astronomy at the time of Muhammad (a fact mistake - any baby god had known better. Muslims generally try to evade questions about this - or give you a lot of diffuse words (and never tell it is from local, wrong astronomy)). We have hardly ever seen a reasonable – not correct, but at least logically reasonable - explanation of this mistake, except the standard one when something is so wrong that even “explanations” are not possible: It is “figurative”, "allegorical” - or something similar - explanations or stories.

008 37/8: "(Stars used as shooting stars are used as weapons against jinns and bad spirits*) (So) they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly (Allah's assembly*) - - -". If anyone is able to believe jinns and bad spirits are cruising or hiding in the heights where the shooting stars happen, to listen to what is said in the 7 heavens which do not exist (in those heights there only is rarefied air - so rarified that neither Jinns nor good Muslims in high heavens can breathe there) they are fully permitted to believe so. No other comment should be necessary.

Well, we may add that this quote sounds like from a fairy tale. Perhaps with a reason?

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009 37/9: "Repulsed - - -". The jinns and the bad spirits are chased away by the stars Allah uses for shooting star. If these verses were unknown, one might guess the writer was the slightly romantic Dane, Mr. H. C. Andersen - it would fit his style. (If there is anyone not knowing him: He was a most famous writer of fairy tales.)

010 37/10: "Except such (jinns and bad spirits*) as snatch away something (secrets from Heaven*) by stealth, and they are pursued by a flaming fire, of piercing brightness (stars used as shooting stars by Allah as weapons to chase away jinns and bad spirits)". If anyone is able to believe jinns, etc. are cruising around or hiding high up in the stratosphere trying to steal secrets from the heavens which do not exist - not to mention stars used for shooting stars (37/7-8) - they are permitted to do so. Any more comments should be unnecessary - except also see 37/7 and 37/8 above".

#011 37/11a: "- - - beings We (Allah*) have created". The funny thing is that there never was proved Allah created anything at all - there only are lofty claims and words from a man with a very doubtful moral, believing in the use of dishonesty, when that gave better results, and wanting power, respect and riches - at least for bribes for more power - and women.

012 37/11b: “Them (it here has to be man, as jinns according to the Quran is made from fire*) have We (Allah*) created out of sticky clay.” But: For one thing science says man is not created, but evolved from earlier primates, and in addition: This is contradicted by 6/2, 7/12, 17/61, 32/7, 38/71, and 38/76 whish tell man/Adam was made from clay, 15/26, 15/26, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from sounding clay, 55/14 that tells man/Adam was made from ringing clay, 23/12, that tells man/Adam was made from essence of clay, 15/26, 15/28, and 15/33 that tell man/Adam was made from mud, 3/59, 22/5, 35/11, 40/67, that tell man/Adam was made from dust, 20/55 that tells man/Adam was made from earth, 96/2 that tells man/Adam was made from a clot of congealed blood, 16/4, 75/37, 76/2, 80/19, that tell man/Adam was made from semen (without explaining from where the semen came), 21/30, 24/45, and 25/54 that tell man/Adam was made from water (NB! NB! Not in water, but from water!), 70/39 that tells man/Adam was made from “base material”, and not to mention the greatest contradiction in this case: 19/9 and 19/67 which both tell that man/Adam was created from nothing. (Also see verse 6/2 in the chapters about the 1000+ mistakes in the Quran.) (Strictly speaking this contradicts 30 different verses, but minimum 12 sure contradictions.)

013 37/12a: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See 2/2b above.

014 37/13b: "- - - when they (opponents of Muhammad*) are admonished - - -". Admonished by means of the texts and errors in the Quran?!

015 37/14a: "And, when they (the skeptics*) see a Sign, (they*) turn it to mockery - - -". They may have had a good reason for this, as Muhammad just picked natural phenomena high and low and without proving Allah was behind them, and claimed them as "signs"/"proofs" for his god. Invalid.

016 37/14d: "- - - a Sign - - -". There exists nowhere a sign clearly from Allah - and there never was one. There may be exceptions among the ones "borrowed" from the Bible, but they in case indicate or prove Yahweh - another possible god.

017 37/15c: "This (the Quran*) is nothing but evident sorcery!". "Sorcery" hardly is the correct word, but perhaps "fantasy".

018 37/18b: "- - - (- - - your evil)". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

019 37/18-21: One of many "correct" tales in the Quran - psychologically nice and soothing for Muhammad's followers to hear. More or less all tales in the Quran end in one of 3 ways: Non-Muslims are punished - gloating is comforting. Or non-Muslims become Muslims. And Muslims are rewarded - in this world with riches, often robbed from non-Muslims, and in the next life with mainly bodily pleasure and Earth-like luxury (see 10/9f above). Nice, comforting and soothing for many a Muslim to be confirmed of. But never proved.

020 37/21b: “- - - truth ye (once) denied - - -”. The “truth” as told in the Quran, at best can be partly true - too many mistakes, invalid “signs” and “proofs”, etc. Also see 2/39b and 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

021 37/22b: ""- - - wrongdoers - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

#022 37/22c: "The wrongdoers (in the Quran this word does not primarily mean criminals or other bad persons, but non-Muslims*) and their wives - - -". One of many sub-conscious revealings in the Quran of its view of women: They are not individuals, but parts of a man's household. Note that nothing is said about the wives themselves being "wrongdoers" - the only criterion is that they are the wives of wrongdoers. Fair deal from a benevolent god? Also note how little is said about their life in Heaven and what a position they get below the men and just mentioned here and there compared to the glorification of the houris - their superior competitors for their husbands or harem owner's goodwill and bed. (It is not said directly in the Quran that Paradise is lots of sex - in addition to the other Earth-like pleasures - but just you guess what primitive, uneducated warriors were believing and dreaming about, when being told about the beautiful and willing houris!)

023 37/28: "- - - (coming*) from the right hand - - -". This is an old Arab expression - an Arabism. "To come from the right hand side" implies that the one who is talked about have power and authority + he is behaving morally, etc. correct. But would a universal god use such an Arabism in his claimed holy book claimed to be meant for all the world?

024 37/31a: "So now has been proved (wrong: only a claim here*) true, against us (non-Muslims*), the Word of our Lord (Allah*) - - -". Pep-talk - nice and convincing for blind or strong believers to hear. Muhammad seems to have been a good salesman.

025 37/31b: "- - - true - - -". See 2/2b and 13/1g above.

026 37/31c: "- - - the Word of our (bad people*) Lord (Allah*) that we shall indeed (have to) taste (the punishment of our sins)". It is said so in the Quran. But as the Quran is not from a god, then from who are these words in reality? - from Muhammad? - from Iblis/the Devil? - or from someone or something else?

027 37/31f: "- - - our sins - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, compared to more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exist. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

####By the way: Have you noticed how many points in the Quran's moral code which are similar to the corresponding points in the moral codes of f.x. the Mafia, the Triads (Chinese), and of terrorist "revolutionary armies" like "the Shining Path", and M65 (Africa)?

028 37/32: "- - - astray - - -". Who are most astray - the ones blindly following the never proved tale of a man of doubtful moral, but lust for power? - or the ones asking for proofs before they believe in such tales?

029 37/33a: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. A book with so many mistakes, etc. like the Quran at best is partly true only.

030 37/34a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. In a book with so much wrong, the word "verily" cannot be accepted as reliable unless there are proofs.

031 37/34ca: "- - - Sinners - - -". Beware that when the Quran use words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

032 37/36d: "- - - a Poet possessed (Muhammad*)". Already at that time many opponents and others suspected that something was wrong with Muhammad. Today medical experts strongly suspects he had TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) - an illness which can give just such symptoms, reactions and experiences as Muhammad is told to have had.

033 37/36e: "- - - possessed - - -". Remember here that in the old times one often believed that people with something wrong with their brain, were possessed by an evil spirit. And as Muhammad quite likely had TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy) according to modern medical science, may be they were right - quite likely he was "possessed" by TLE.

034 37/37b: “He (Muhammad*) has come with the (very) Truth (the Quran*)”. The Quran is at best bits and pieces of the truth - too many mistakes and invalid “signs” and “proofs”. Also see 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

#035 37/37c: “- - - and he (Muhammad*) confirms (the Messages of) the Messengers (before him (= from Jews and Christians*))”. Wrong. There are too many and too fundamental differences between especially NT and the Quran. The Quran is not confirming the Bible, in spite of Muhammad’s words – the fundamental differences between the teachings simply are too big – especially compared to NT and the “new covenant” Jesus caused. See 29/46 and others. Actually this claim is to be found several places in the Quran. (Muhammad tried to explain away even the deep differences with never proved claims that the Bible is falsified - claims both modern science and Islam (unintentionally) very strongly have proved wrong, by not being able to find one proved falsification among the some 44ooo relevant manuscripts and fragments older than 610 AD).

Also see separate chapter in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" about this.

036 37/39b: "- - - (the Evil) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

037 37/41-44: “For them (Muslims*) is a Sustenance determined (in Paradise*), Fruits (delights); and they (shall enjoin) honor and dignity, in Gardens of Felicity, facing each other on Thrones (of dignity).” Mostly when it is talk about food in Paradise, it is talk about fruits. Also they have to be rich and dignified, as they all sit on thrones. There must be very long rows of thrones - very long and many such. But is this the best and least boring Paradise an omnipotent god is able to create? Also see 10/9f above.

The many and very basic differences between the Bible's and the Quran's Paradises are one of the strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

038 37/44: "(Muslims in Paradise all*) Facing each other on Thrones (of Dignity)". There have been a few billion Muslims through the times, and will be more. The rows of thrones facing each others must be long - especially if also women and children have thrones - in what must be a very boring paradise. This may be the maximum primitive, uneducated warriors were able to dream about - but is this really the best Paradise an omniscient and omnipotent god like Allah is claimed to be, is able to offer his followers?

039 37/45-47: “Round will be passed to them (Muslims*) a Cup from a clear-flowing fountain, Crystal-white, of a taste delicious to those who drink (thereof), Free from headiness, nor will they suffer intoxication therefrom”. Not only good food, but also good drinks – not intoxicating. But again: Is this really the best an omniscient, omnipotent god is able to offer? We may add that Yahweh's paradise is quite different (even though not too much is said about his paradise, this much is very clear).

040 37/48a: “And beside them (Muslims*) will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty)”. The famed houris – for free use. And what use did primitive – and for that case some other – men think of? Hardly of polite and intellectual conversation.

There is no place in the Quran mentioned one single thought about how Paradise is for the houris. The Quran seldom cares about the life and feelings of others than the main persons – the male Muslim, preferably a warrior. Houris, slave woman, slaves, servants, and others - even to a large degree the free(?) Muslim women: Just things for the brave warrior to use and to serve him. Things.

##041 37/48c: “And besides them (Muslim men in Paradise*) will be chaste women, restraining their glances, with big eyes (of wonder and beauty).” This is one of the 200% sure proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same gods: Their paradises are universes apart - mentally and morally. Allah: Beautiful, obedient women, good food and drinks, shade and plenty of water, and laziness, etc. (little is said about women's paradise). Yahweh: You become like angels (f.x. Mark 12/25).

We may add that the idea of houris is "borrowed" from the Zoroastrians, where they were named paaris. (There are few religious ideas in the Quran not borrowed from somewhere - and from inside Arabia or from not too distant areas only.)

042 37/52a: “- - - the Truth (of the Message)”. That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact. See 2/2b, 13/1g and 37/37a above - and many others.

043 37/52b "- - - ( - - - the Message) - - -". The Quran. But is it really a message?

044 37/53a: "When we (humans*) die and become dust and bones, shall we indeed receive rewards and punishments?" Muhammad told you would be bodily resurrected at the Day of Doom - though as a young and fit person. This naturally was a bit difficult for many to believe. But as nearly all pleasures in Muhammad's heaven were bodily pleasures (the only exception was that Allah was not too far off- how far is not known, though guesses are made; normal Muslims in the lowest heaven and Allah above the 7th one - but how far between the heavens? (One place in Hadiths it is said 500 years of travel between the heavens.)), bodily resurrection was a necessity for him.

045 37/54: "- - - look down - - -". It is clear Hell was/is below (what is up and down in space?) the heavens. The standard Muslim picture was 7 heavens above the Earth, then 7 flat Earths - one above the other according to Hadiths - and then Hell underneath. A bit different from modern astronomy.

046 37/58: "Is it the (case) that we (humans in Hell and Paradise*) shall not die?" There is not death neither in Paradise nor in Hell according to the Quran. But there all the same is a small open question, as at least one verse indicates that Paradise may not be quite forever (11/108c), and several indicate the same for Hell (6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74b-c, 78/23, plus some Hadiths).

###But what do you think about living a million years and more with nothing to do, no mental activity, and the only pastimes are eating, drinking and sex for men, and eating, drinking and perhaps a little sex for women? Because this is ALL the Quran's Paradise has to offer. Well, plus Allah some 6 heavens away for most Muslims.

And what about a god unable to create a more attractive Paradise than this? - according to 37/60b this is his supreme achievement!!

047 37/60a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See 2/2b above.

###048 37/63aa: "For We (Allah*) have truly (definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim*) made it (to eat the fruit of the zaqqum tree - a tree said to grow in Hell*) as a trial for the wrongdoers".#######One more strong indication for that Allah also is the creator and ruler of Hell. What then is left of the claimed good and benevolent god Allah?

049 37/63c: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

050 37/66a: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. In a book with so many mistakes, etc. a word like "truly" cannot be judged reliable unless it is proved correct.

051 37/66b: “- - - they (the “infidels” in Hell*) will eat thereof (the disgusting fruits of the zaqqum tree in Hell*) and fill their bellies therewith.” Also in Hell life is so similar to on Earth that you need food and drink - ought not to be necessary as you are immortal there (the same goes for Paradise actually). In Yahweh's Paradise - and the corresponding Hell - there is mentioned nothing about the necessity for food or drink. But then his Paradise is one for the soul, not a one where a body is needed. More proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

052 37/66c: “- - - they (the “infidels” in Hell*) will eat thereof (the disgusting fruits of the zaqqum tree in Hell*) and fill their bellies therewith.” But there is a small contradiction:

69/36: “Nor hath he (the “infidel” in Hell*) any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds”.

88/6: “No food will there be for them (the “infidels” in Hell*) but a bitter dari (a dry bush with needles*) - - -.”

(2 contradictions.)

053 37/69b: "Truly (definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim*) they (non-Muslims*) found their fathers on the wrong path". But are Muslims on right or wrong path as the Quran is not from a god

###054 37/69-70: “Truly they found their fathers on the wrong path; so they (too) were rushed down their footsteps”.

Comment A37/25 (A37/27 in 2008 English edition): “I.e. blind imitation ("taqlid") of the – obviously absurd – beliefs, valuations and customs (f.x. parts of the Muslim “moral” code*) of one’s erring predecessors, and disregard of all evidence (!!!*) of the truth supplied by both reason and divine (?*) revelation, is here shown to be the principal cause of the suffering referred to - - -. (Zamakhshari)”.

No comments necessary – this also fits Muslims 100%, not to say 120%.

055 37/71a: "- - - truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See 2/2b and 13/1g above.

056 37/71b: "- - - many of the ancients (non-Muslims*) went astray". But as the Quran with all its errors is not from a god, the disturbing question is: Are all and each and every Muslim also astray? - and what if there somewhere is a benevolent god waiting "on the other side", but not wanting warriors, rapists, thieves, liars, etc.? (NB: We stress that not all Muslims are - not by a long shot. But these are among the idols of the Quran - f.x. Muhammad himself according to central Islamic religious and historical literature).

##057 37/72b: "But We (Allah*) sent aforetime, among them (earlier people*) (messengers) to admonish them - - -". We may add that Muhammad claimed that among others the old Jewish prophets preached Islam, but that later generations falsified the religion away from Islam and over to the Jewish (Mosaic) religion of his (and later) time. As always Muhammad had no proofs for his claims. But no modern scientist within relevant sciences believes him (except perhaps some of the Muslims).

A point: In no case even OT can have been falsified until after 33 AD. If falsified before, the claimed good Muslim Jesus had warned about it. (And science knows very clearly that nothing in the Bible is falsified later.)

058 37/75c: "- - - We (Allah*) are the Best to hear prayers". Only possible - not sure, but possible - if Allah exists, is a major god and is correctly described in the Quran. But the Bible means Yahweh is better - so much better that it does not even mention Allah or any of his followers.

Another point: Allah may hear your prayer, but he cannot honor it, unless he changes his Plan concerning you.

059 37/80a: "Thus indeed do We (Allah*) reward - - -". Allah rewards nobody unless he exists and is something supernatural - white or black. And it is an open question if he at all can reward - or punish - anybody at all, as that will mean changes in his predestined Plan, which nobody and nothing can change, according to several verses in the Quran. .

060 37/80d: "- - - do right". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

061 37/83a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. In a book where so much is wrong like in the Quran, a word like "verily" cannot be taken at face value without additional proofs.

062 37/86: "Is it a Falsehood - gods other than Allah - - -". As no god really is proved, it is a possibility all gods are false - though there may be something about Yahweh, as if the old books - included the Quran - tell the truth on this point, both he and Jesus proved something. But the relevant fact here is that as the Quran with all its mistakes, etc. is not from any god, it is highly likely that also Allah is falsehood. The mathematical chance for that he is a reality, will have to be written with very small numbers and far behind the comma or point. (It is likely Abraham's people had more gods, but no religious quarrel is mentioned in the Bible.)

063 37/87a: "- - - the Lord of the Worlds - - -". This is a title used in the Quran for Allah. According to f.x. the Bible the title is wrong. It also is wrong if Allah does not exist.

064 37/96: "But Allah has created you - - -". One more never proved claim - a claim most priests in most religions make on behalf of their (relevant) god(s). Also see 6/2b above.

065 37/97-98: Abraham delivered from Nimrod's fire. Taken from the made up old story "Midrash Rabbah" and retold like it was a true history. And another point: Abraham and Nimrod did not live at the same time (if they ever lived). Nimrod was the great grandson of Noah, and lived - if he is not fiction - perhaps a couple of thousand or more years before Abram/Abraham - see 29/16a above. Muhammad had a strong tendency to mix persons from different times (f.x. d Ramses II and Haman - some 800 years wrong. Or Mary and Miriam - some 1200 years wrong.) Also see 37/97c above.

066 37/99c: "- - - surely - - -". See 2/2b above.

067 37/100: "- - - righteous - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

068 37/101: "- - - a boy - - -". This is meant to be Ishmael, the son Abraham got with the Egyptian slave woman, Hagar, and whom the Arabs claim are their forefather - even though the Bible tells he and his mother settled near the border of Egypt - 1. Mos. 25/18. (The Quran claims he settled in Mecca - a claim which extremely unlikely can be true).

###There also is the fact that Arabia was settled thousands of years before Abraham and Ishmael. Thus there were tens of thousands of forefathers for the Arabs of Muhammad's generation. Thus if all the same some descendants of Ishmael settled in Arabia, they in case meant only a miniscule part of a percent of an Arab's blood at that time, and even less today, mainly because of import of millions of slaves from Africa and other places through the years. That much for Arab's relationship to Abraham and for the pure Arab blood today (the pure Arab blood even never existed - modern DNA shows that the Arabs never was a "pure" race, but are the descendants of people who drifted into the peninsula from neighboring countries all around - - - + from the millions of imported Negros and other slaves + some from travelers (sex and alcohol were "the two delightful things" in Arabia before Islam.)

069 37/102-103: The testing of Abraham. The name of the boy is not mentioned here, but other places the Quran claims that it was Ishmael. The Bible says it was Isaac.

If the time sequences given in the Bible are correct, the boy cannot have been Ishmael. See 37/103 below.

070 37/105c: "- - - do right - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

071 37/106: "For this was obviously a trial". Why does an omniscient god who decides everything, need to test his followers? (A similar question may be asked about this episode and the Bible, but for one thing it is irrelevant here, as no matter what answer there, it will not change the question concerning Allah, and for another in the Bible Yahweh does not decide everything, as man has real free will.)

072 37/107b: "And We (Allah*) ransomed him (Abraham*) with a momentous sacrifice - - -". According to the Bible, Abraham found a ram (1. Mos. 22/13) he sacrificed instead of Isaac - a ram hardly is a momentous sacrifice.

073 37/110c: "- - - do right - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

074 37/111: "For he (Abram/Abraham*) was one of Our (Allah's*) believing servants". It here is told Abram/Abraham was a good Muslim. The Bible disagrees and says Abraham believed in Yahweh. You are free to believe whatever you want. But there are no traces from Muslims or something like Islam until some 2500 years later.

075 37/112c: "- - - Righteous - - -". In just this case it may be correct, but beware that normally when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

076 37/113b: "We (in the Quran claimed to be Allah*) blessed him (Abram/Abraham*) and Isaac - - -". Abram/Abraham according to the Bible (and the Quran) became the one who started the Jewish people - through Isaac and Isaac's son Jacob. Ishmael and his children settle on the border of Egypt (1. Mos. 25/18) - roughly somewhat east of where the Suez canal runs today - and mainly disappears from the story, except that Muhammad some 2500 years later claims they settled in Mecca and were the forefathers of the - in the already settled and in reality mixed up - peoples (proved also by modern DNA) living in Arabia, later named Arabs.

077 37/113c: "- - - do right, - - - do wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

078 37/115b: "- - - We (Allah*) delivered him (Moses*) and his people from (their) Great Calamity - - -". According to the Bible, the god involved was Yahweh, not Allah.

079 37/117b: ”And We (Allah*) gave them (Moses and Aaron) the Book - - -”. Muhammad claimed that all real and claimed earlier prophets each received a copy of "the Mother of the Book" (the Quran was Muhammad's such copy), and thus similar or identical to the Quran (exact copies of the same "Mother Book" should be identical). But of these 124ooo or more copies (according to Hadiths) and copies from them again (that was how books were made in the old times), neither science nor Islam has been able to find one single fragment or quotation older than 610 AD, when Muhammad started his mission. For a comparison one knows some 44ooo relevant copies, fragments, or quotations from the Bible older than 610 AD. The only possible conclusion is that Muhammad was bluffing about this.

080 37/117c: "- - - the Book which helps to make things clear - - -". Muhammad claimed that all earlier prophets/messengers had received a copy of "the Mother of the Book" in Heaven = a copy similar to the Quran. A book with clear and easy to understand texts.

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More down to the Earth: Muslims often explains away mistakes, etc. in the Quran with the claim that what is written there is not what is meant - it is a parable or an allegory or something. A book where you have to guess what is literally meant and what are parables - and what the parables in case mean - definitely is not easy.

######That the Quran tells - directly or indirectly, but clearly - that the texts in the Quran are clear, explained by Allah, and to be understood literally, you find f.x. these places: 3/7b, 3/138a, 6/114ca, 11/1b, 15/1b, 17/12h, 18/1d-e, 18/2a, 19/97b, 20/113b+c, 24/34, 24/54j, 26/2a, 27/1b-d, 28/2, 36/69e, 37/117c, 39/28b, 41/3da, 43/2a, 43/3c, 43/29b, 44/2b-c, 44/13d, 44/58b, 54/17a, 54/22b, 54/32a+b, 54/40a, 65/11f, and 75/19 Worth remembering each time a Muslim or Islam tries to "explain" away errors, etc. by claiming the text means something different from what it says. In such cases either the Muslim/Islam lies when he/she claims the text means something different from what it says (the claim often is that it is a parable or something), or the Quran lies when it says that the book uses clear texts where nothing else is indicated.

The listed points are all collected under 3/7b and 44/58b.

Or perhaps Allah is so clumsy and helpless when he explains things, that he needs help from humans to explain what "he really means"? (Nonsense to say the least about such claims behind such "explanations".)

For lay people the claims may not be conscious dishonesty - they often/mostly honestly believe what they claim about this, though partly because of wishful thinking. For the ones with higher religious education, the reality may be a different one, even though wishful thinking may have an effect on them, too.

WHO CAN EXPLAIN SOMETHING BETTER AND MORE CORRECTLY AND COMPLETELY THAN AN OMNISCIENT GOD?

Wrong is wrong and dishonesty is dishonesty also on this point. At least for leaders leading followers in such a serious case as the future possible everlasting life in Heaven or Hell, also giving in to his (in Islam religious leaders nearly always are men) wishful thinking often opposing his rational knowledge and then agitating on such a basis, is both moral and real dishonesty.

081 37/118c: "- - - the Straight Way". The claimed road to the Quran's Paradise - see 10/9f above.

082 37/121c: "- - - do right - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

083 37/122: "- - - they (Moses and Aaron*) were Our (Allah's*) believing Servants (= good Muslims*)". We do not think anyone knowing the Bible needs a comment here.

084 37/123-124: "So also was Elias among those sent by Us (Allah*). Behold, he said to his people, 'Will ye not fear Allah?". Some places where the Quran mistakes Yahweh for Allah, we do not bother to comment on it, as the mistake is so obvious. But the teachings of these two claimed gods are so fundamentally different, that they are not the same - the Quran's claims here simply are not correct. As for Elias, this as said has to be Elijah in the Bible, as Baal - or Ba'al - is a central theme. By the way: The name Hubal may be connected to Baal/Ba'al, and Hubal may have been another name for al-Lah/Allah - there is no proof neither for nor against. Islam protests, science tends to say "likely".) (see second part of 1/1d)

095 37/125b: "- - - the Best of Creation". A bit ironic claim, as Allah never - not once - proved neither his power for creation, nor for recreation (as opposed to Yahweh if the old books tell the truth).

086 37/126: "Allah, your (the Jews'*) Lord and Cherisher, and the Lord and Cherisher of your fathers of the old (like Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, etc*)". No comments - and none necessary.

087 37/128: "Except the devoted and sincere devoted servants (= good Muslims*) of Allah among them (the Jews around 870 - 900 BC)". For the readers not knowing much about the facts in old Israel/Judah: There does not exist one serious scientist believing in Muslims or belief in Allah in Israel/Judah around 800 - 900 BC. Not even among the non-Jews there. Hardly even a Muslim scientist believes so - not if he is serious. And not even Islam has found even one proof for a god like Allah or a religion like Islam at that time. And remember that here we are inside the first traces of written history in the Middle East.

088 37/131c: "- - - do right - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

089 37/132: "For he (Elijah*) was one of Our (Allah's*) believing Servants". Contradicting the Bible to say the least of it! In the Bible Yahweh is the god of Elijah - and scientists believe that if Elijah ever lived, the Bible is right. (We are now slowly approaching times where science gets other sources of information than the Bible, and there is every indication for that the Jews' god was Yahweh, and not Allah.)

A point: In no case even OT can have been falsified until after 33 AD. If falsified before, the claimed good Muslim Jesus had warned about it. (And science knows very clearly that nothing in the Bible is falsified later.)

090 37/137a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. In a book with so many mistakes etc., a word like this is not reliable without further proofs".

091 37/137b: "Verily, ye (people*) pass by their (Sodom's and Gomorrah's*) (sites), by day and night". In reality no-one knows the sites of these two towns (if they are not fiction), except that it was near the Dead Sea - perhaps near the north-east shore.

092 37/138: "- - - Will ye not understand (that the Quran is the truth*)?" Difficult to understand when so much definitely is not the truth - lots and lots of mistaken facts f.x.

093 37/139a: "So also was Jonah among those sent (by Us (Allah*))". According to the Bible he was sent by Yahweh, not by Allah - there is no traces of neither Allah, Islam nor anything like the Quran some 700+ years BC. Neither science nor Islam has found any such traces older than 610, AD when Muhammad started his preaching.

#094 37/142a: “Then the big fish swallowed him (Jonah*)”. Wrong.

There exists no fish big enough to swallow a man whole. There is one exception, but that one does not eat large prey (the whale-shark). Besides there may be one or two of the whales, but even the orca does not swallow a seal (reasonably similar size) in one piece.

Even if he had been swallowed, he had not survived - he had died in minutes from lack of oxygen.

And had he had a supply of oxygen - which he obviously did not - the acid juices in the stomach of the “fish” had killed him in a short time.

A fairy tale, even if this story is “borrowed” from the Bible. (There are some mistakes also in the Bible, but the Bible was not written by a god). About Jonah also in 37/44 among other places.

095 37/142b: (YA4122): YA do not believe the story of Jonah happened at sea: "The Tigris river, mentioned by some of our (Muslims'*) Commentators, is more likely, and it contains some fishes of extraordinary size". This is meaningless - if you meet bad weather on a river, there never are really bad "seas" and there never is a long way to the shore and safety. (But the Bible tells it happened on a ship from Joppa bound for Tarshis (Jonah 1/3) = in the Mediterranean Sea).

This is one of the very many samples of Islam finding a "good" explanation to an aspect of a point in the Quran, but forgetting that other aspects make the "explanation" impossible or - like here - even laughable: It is not possible for wind to make waves on a river big enough to be dangerous for a ship - and if there was danger, there just are yards and meters to the shore and safety. Sometimes we get the impression that many Muslim scholars never learnt the use of logic or of critical thinking.

##096 37/143: "- - - (Jonah*) glorified Allah - - -". Jonah was a Hebrew - a Jew (Jonah 1/9) who for one thing told he worshipped Yahweh (also Jonah 1/9), and for another thing lived at a time when no Jew believed in Allah (something like 700 BC and thus inside early written history in those areas). (Oh, we know Muhammad wrongly claimed Yahweh just was another name for Allah, but the fact that something is said, does not mean that it is true - especially when there are plenty of proofs for that it is not true (not unless the god is strongly mentally ill - and hardly even then) - Yahweh and Allah by far are too different and too fundamentally different to be the same god). There is no god like Allah, no religion like Islam, and no traces from a book like the Quran known from around 700 BC in written history - actually nothing similar in history until after 610 AD. Also these claims in the Quran are made up ones, unless differently proved.

097 37/144: “He (Jonah*) would certainly have remained inside the fish till the day of Resurrection”. The fish would not live that long, but that aside: See 37/142a above.

098 37/149b: "- - - is it that thy (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah*) has (only) daughters, and they have sons." In a very masculine world it was an argument that Allah could not have something so without value like daughters - - - but Islam pretends to be for the entire world, and daughters were valuable in many parts of the world. Would a universal god use arguments valid only in parts of the world? Besides, according to the Bible he had a son - Jesus.

099 37/150b: "- - - witness - - -". This is typical for the Quran; Muhammad demands proofs from everybody not agreeing with him (and thus proving that proofs are essential), but he himself evades all questions for proofs - and the only "signs" and "proofs" he presents - and then not when requested - are natural phenomena he simply claims for his god, without even one single time proving his god is behind the phenomenon.

100 37/151b: "Is not what they (opponents of Muhammad*) say, from their own invention - - -". This was a question frequently asked - and with some reasons - to Muhammad, too, but then about Muslims. And what about "taqlid" - the uncritical acceptance of what others say?

101 37/152: “’Allah hath begotten children‘? But they are liars!” May be Allah has no children. But if Allah = Yahweh like Muslims like to claim, there is the curious fact that Jesus according to the Bible many, many times called Yahweh his father - and clearly not like an allegory or figuratively.

102 37/157: "Then bring ye your Book (of authority) if ye are truthful!" No god would ever have demanded such a naive proof like this - a book is as easy to make up or to falsify as a verbal tale (this also goes for the Quran). Also see 37/150b above.

103 37/158b: "- - - Jinns - - -". Beings - not spirits, though invisible for humans - from old Arab pagan religion, folklore, and fairy tales. They only "existed" in and around Arabia - an Arabism used in the Quran.

104 37/159a: "Glory to Allah!" Please read 1/1a above and see if you think he deserves it - if he exists.

105 37/159b: "((Allah*) is free) from the things they (opponents of Muhammad*) ascribe (to Him)". If he does not exist, he is free from everything.

106 37/161a: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. In a book as full of mistakes, etc. as the Quran, a word like "verily" does not have normal value unless there are additional proofs.

107 37/161-162: "- - - neither ye (non-Muslims*) nor those (other gods*) ye worship can lead (any (believer*)) into temptation concerning Allah". The meaning is that no other gods have the power to lead persons or Muslims astray from Allah. The underlying - but as normal never proved - claim is that the other gods do not exist and thus have no power, which Allah has. This claim naturally is wrong if Allah does not exist or is nothing supernatural (he can have power even if he belongs to the dark forces). There also is another underlying, never proved presumption: That no other god - f.x. Yahweh - exists, and that thus no other god - again f.x. Yahweh - has any power.

####108 37/164-166: Here according to most Islamic scholars, it is the angles who are talking. That at least means the Quran cannot have existed since eternity, like many Muslims like to believe: It must have been made, and made after at least some angels had been created – if not the angels could not have spoken in the book.(There also are some 8 places where Muhammad is speaking - an impossibility if the "Mother Book" in Heaven which the Quran is said to be an exact copy of, is really old.)

109 37/165: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. In a book where so much is wrong like in the Quran, a word like "verily" is not reliable without proofs.

110 37/170a: "But (now that the Quran has come), they (non-Muslims*) reject it - - -". Already at that time a lot saw that something was wrong in the Quran.

111 37/170e: "- - - but soon they (skeptics*) will know". Pep-talk to Muhammad's followers - the underlying meaning is that "take it easy - the skeptics will be punished!" As for knowledge see 26/83a above.

112 37/172a: "That they (good Muslims or messengers/prophets*) would certainly be assisted". This depends on if Allah exists and has the power to assist anybody - there is not reported one proved case of assistance from Allah in the entire history and before.

113 37/172b: "- - - certainly - - -". See 2/2b above - actually as it is highly likely Allah does not exists, assistance in this case is not "certain", but highly unlikely.

114 37/180a: "Glory to thy Lord (Allah*) - - -". Read 1/1a and see if he deserves it - if he exists.

115 37/180b: "- - - the Lord (Allah*) of Honor - - -". Read 1/1a above and see if he deserves it - - - if he exists.

116 37/180c: "- - - the Lord of - - - Power". He in case never has demonstrated his power - a lot of claims, but not one proved case.

117 37/180d: “(He is free) from what (children*) they (non-Muslims*) ascribe (to Him))”. See 37/152 above.

118 37/182a: "And Praise be to Allah - - -". Read 1/1a and see if he deserves it - if he exists.

119 37/182b: "- - - Allah, the Lord and Cherisher of the Worlds". Often claimed, never proved.

5968 + 119 = 6087 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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