1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 35

 

SURAH 35: Al-Fatir (The Originator)

(614 – 615)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 "- - - Allah - - - Most Gracious, Most Merciful". See 1/1a above.

003 35/1a: "Praise be to Allah - - -". See 1/1a and see if you agree.

004 35/1b: “- - - Allah, who created (out of nothing) the heavens (plural and wrong*) and the earth - - -”. In a way it is nearly correct that the heaven as we see it, is made of nearly nothing, as an optical illusion is made from photons = nearly nothing (but Muhammad was very wrong all the same, as he/the Quran believed the heavens consisted of something material). But the Earth definitely is not made from nothing - not even if one refers to Big Bang. And Muhammad's heavens also were material ones – if not f.x. the stars could not be fastened to one of the heavens). We may add that the 7 heavens is a construction taken from old Greek and Persian wrong astronomy – they used 7 invisible, but strong heavens to try to explain the celestial movements. A fact Muslims never mention. (Any god had known better. Who made the Quran?)

005 35/1e: "- - - angels, messengers with wings - - -". Cherubim had, seraphs had, but for ordinary angels wings are not mentioned in the Bible. (In Christian art angels got wings in the 3. century AD only.)

006 35/1f: "- - - angels, messengers with wings - two or three or four pairs - - -". Highly unlikely - there is a reason why all birds have just one pair of wings, as many extra pairs of wings just would mean turbulence and drag, not lift or speed - there f.x. once existed birds with 4 wings, but they died out (to give Gabriel 600 wings like Muhammad does one place, is aerodynamically nonsense). Any god had known, but Muhammad of course knew nothing about aerodynamics. Then who made the Quran?

007 35/1g: "He (Allah*) adds to Creation as He pleases - - -". An interesting piece of information, as there nowhere is proved that Allah neither creates (see 6/2b, 11/7a, 21/56c above), nor resurrects (see 7/158i above).

008 35/1h: "- - - Allah has power over all things". Perhaps - but he has never in a clear way shown he claimed power. Never. Yahweh has, if either the Bible or the Quran tells the truth, but never Allah. (In spite of Islam's claims those two gods are not the same one - the teachings are too different, and science has proved that the handy, but never documented way out Muslims always use - the claim that the Quran is falsified - is wrong.

009 35/2b: "What Allah - - - doth bestow on mankind there is none that can withhold: what He doth withhold, there is none can grant - - -". Allah decides - if he exists and is a god or a devil with power.

010 35/2d: "(Allah is*) the Exalted in Power". See f.x. 35/1h above.

011 35/2e: “(Allah is*) Full of Wisdom.” Not if the Quran is representative for his knowledge and wisdom – too many mistakes, etc.

012 35/3a: "Call to mind the grace of Allah unto you!" This may or may not be true, but only if Allah exists and is a major god. Worse: There has never been documented an actual case. 

013 35/3b: "- - - the grace of Allah - - -". See 1/1a above.

#014 35/3c: "Is there a Creator, other than Allah - - -". Is Allah a creator? Yes, is Allah a creator? There are lots of loose claims and as loose statements about him, but not one atom is proved or documented. And claims for blind belief are the hallmarks of cheats and deceivers - and sometimes politicians. Also see 6/2b, 7/158i, 11/7a and not least 21/56c above.

###Also note Muhammad's technique: He debates like Allah is a proved fact, even though he never was able one inch about Allah - lots of claims, but never a real proof. You meet this technique many places in the Quran - some places even added by demands for proofs from all non-Muslims.

####There even is an extra point here: Muhammad's demands for proofs from non-Muslims prove that he meant proofs were essential, but all the same he himself was totally unable to give a valid proof for any of his central claims concerning Allah or Islam or the Quran or his own claimed connection to a god.

015 35/3e: "(Only Allah can*) give you sustenance from heaven or earth - - -". This never proved claim is correct only if Allah exists, is a major god, is correctly described in the Quran, and if there is no other god - f.x. Yahweh (whose existence the Quran admits, even though it wrongly mixes him up with Allah).

016 35/3f: "There is no god but He (Allah) - - -". See 2/255a, 2/165c, 6/106b or 25/18a above.

#017 35/3g: “- - - how then are ye deluded away from the Truth?” The big question: Who are deluded - the Muslims or the non-Muslims? The Quran has so many mistakes and other blemishes, that to say it is made or revered by or sent down from a god, is an insult to that god. And if the Quran is wrong about Allah, the Muslims are even more deluded.

That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact.

018 35/4b: "- - - so were the messengers rejected before thee (Muhammad*) - - -". You will see many places that it was essential for Muhammad to claim he was just like the old Jewish prophets - and he indicated that this meant he was just a normal prophet (though in too many ways he differed from them - his teachings, his life, his basic ideas, his demand for riches, his womanizing, his point of view concerning honesty and even oaths, etc. - he is not in that line - not even in the same religion).

019 35/4c: "- - - so were the messengers rejected before thee (Muhammad*) - - -". But was Muhammad a messenger? - and in case for whom or what? See 63/5a below.

020 35/4d: "- - - to Allah go back for decision all affairs". Allah decides and predestines everything. Where then is man's free will? Those two are not possible to combine, in spite of Islam's not only unproved, but unexplained and unexplainable claims (A6/141 - English 2008 edition 6/143: "- - - the relationship between Allah's knowledge of the future (and therefore the ineluctability of what is to happen in the future) on the one side, and man's free will on the other - two propositions which, on the face of it (!!*), seem to contradict one another - is beyond man's comprehension; but since both are postulated by Allah (in the Quran - a book full of mistakes, etc.*) both must be true". Unbelievable naivety).

Similar for the value of prayers, good/bad deeds, pilgrimage/Hajj, etc. - they all mean that Allah in case has to change his unchangeable Plan concerning you.

021 35/5c: “Certainly the promise of Allah is true.” There never through the times was one single documented case of Allah giving and/or keeping a promise - if there had been, Islam had put it on the walls of every mosque and many other places. Claims aplenty, proved cases none.

#022 35/5e: “- - - (not) let the Chief Deceiver deceive you about Allah.” The Quran here talks about the Devil. But one question: Muhammad is the absolute and unquestioned chief of the Muslims. If Islam is a false religion – is Muhammad then the Chief Deceiver? The question is not ridiculous – it is sure it is neither made by an omniscient god (too much is wrong in the Quran), nor by a good god (too much dishonesty, discrimination, inhumanity, hate, blood and war), and then the alternatives are: Made by man? – rational or ill (f.x. TLE - Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - will explain much). Or made by some dark forces? – f.x. the Devil dressed up like Gabriel.

023 35/6a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. There is so much which is wrong in the Quran, that even in this connection we have to mention that to trust the word "verily" in this book, there should be additional proofs in each case. Also see 2/2b above.

024 35/7a: "For those who reject Allah, is a terrible Penalty - - -". Only true if Allah exists, if he is a major god, if he and his behavior is correctly described in the Quran, and if there is no other god - f.x. Yahweh, the old Jewish and Christian god the Quran admits exists, though it wrongly mixes him up with Allah.

025 35/7d: "- - - but for those who believe and work righteous deeds, is Forgiveness and a magnificent Reward". See 37/7a above.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

026 35/7f: "- - - righteous deeds - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

027 35/7g: "- - - Forgiveness - - -". Only 2 can forgive: The victim and a god. The claimed forgiveness thus here only is possible if Allah exists and is a real god of some power.

Another point is that to forgive - or for that case to punish or reward or fulfill prayers - means for Allah to change his Plan considering the sinner/person, which according to the Quran is something nobody and nothing can make him do. See 2/187d above.

028 35/7h: "- - - a magnificent Reward". The Quran's and Islam's paradise. See 10/9f above. Remember that the deep differences between Yahweh's Paradise and the one of Allah, are one of the really strong proofs for that the two are not the same god - if they had been, their Paradise had been one and the same one.

029 35/8a: “Is he, then, to whom the evil of his conduct is made alluring (non-Muslims*) - - - (equal to one who is 'rightly guided'*)?” Of course not - Muslims are much better, of course. This even though the famous Muslim al-Ghazali (1058 - 1111 AD) - "the greatest Muslim after Muhammad", according to Islam - marked the end of any new thinking in any science not helpful for Islam, in the eastern and central Muslim world with his book "The Incoherence of the Philosophers" against philosophy in 1095 AD. For more than 900 years there did not come one single new thought or idea bringing humanity forward in any kind of science, "humanoria" included, from all the Muslim world, Maghreb/Spain excluded. (There the ability and freedom to think yourself lasted another ca. 100 years - the death of Ibn Rushd (Averroes) in 1198 can arbitrarily be said to mark the end there). Not one single new thought or new idea in over 900 years!!! Among now some 1.2 BILLION people!!! Yes, it has really to be said: It is difficult to match Muslims and Islam.

Actually new ideas some places for long times meant punishment or even death penalty, though after some time it was agreed on that new ideas building on the Quran and the Hadiths could be accepted, but all other ideas were “Bad new thoughts” and negative or even punishable.

##Quite another point is that much of what the Quran makes alluring, good deeds, morally right, etc. collide head on with the essence of the fundamental moral code: "Do to others like you want others do to you". Compare the Quran's moral code - and the sharia laws - to this, and you will understand why some believe the real maker of the Quran, is the dark forces.

030 35/8c: "- - - evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code - what is evil in the Quran, may not be evil or even god in normal religions, and the other way around.

031 35/8d: “Is he, then, to whom the evil of his conduct is made alluring (non-Muslims*) - - - (equal to one who is rightly guided*)?” There is a serious question here: In the Quran there are a number of central rules and demands which are obviously bad - compare them to "do to others like you want others do to you" and see for yourself. But they are made look like good and alluring by the texts in the book. Is he who believes in theses verses which well may be made by a devil, to be reckoned among the evil ones? (these evil rules in the Quran are the reason why we cannot drop the possibility that the real originator is a devil - f.x. dressed up like Gabriel. This even though it is difficult for us to see how even a devil would make so many mistakes, etc. in an after all small book. He had to know he would be found out and loose credence sooner or later.

###032 35/8e: "- - - so that he (non-Muslim*) looks upon it as good - - -". It may well be that he is right, because the Quran's moral code at some points is so twisted, that moral is turned upside down - and dishonesty and/or crime and/or horrendous acts are reckoned to be "good and lawful" and even highly praised. Compare parts of the Quran's moral code with "do unto others what you want others do unto you" and not even weeping can express the immoral and horror. Some parts of their code are ok, others are bar, horrendous, unjust and/or highly immoral.

###033 35/8g: "- - - (- - - one who is rightly guided) - - -". But who is in reality rightly guided morally? - one who lives according to the Quran's moral and judicial codes or one who live according to "do unto others like you want others do unto you"? And religiously: One who live according to a book so full of errors, that it is clear it has no connection to a god, and dictated by a man of very dubious moral and honesty? - or one who is able to see that things are very wrong in that book?

034 35/8j: "For Allah leaves to stray whom He Wills, and guides whom He wills". Once more one of the abysses between the Quran and NT: Allah picks whom he wants for salvation, Yahweh saves absolutely everyone who wants and qualifies - even up to the last moment if there is honest regret and belief. The same god? Impossible.

035 35/8l: "- - - for Allah knows well all that they do". So do not try to cheat Allah - and at the same time Muhammad or his successors? But also see 2/233h above.

036 35/8m: "- - - Allah knows well all that they do". Only possible if he exists and is something supernatural, good or bad.

037 35/9c: "- - - and We (Allah*) drive them (the clouds*) - - -". Only possible if Allah exists and is something supernatural - but also see 11/7a above.

038 35/10a: "- - - to Allah belong all glory and power". Two more of the many never proved claims in the Quran.

039 35/10c: "To Him (Allah*) mount up (all) Words of Purity - - -". Look at the Quran's moral code, and you will doubt this. But there will honestly be a lot of other words which may mount up to him - if he exists.

040 35/10d: "- - - it is He (Allah*) Who exalts each Deed of Righteousness". Yet another of the many never proved claims in the Quran - words are cheap, but not even Allah's existence is proved.

041 35/10e: "- - - Deeds of Righteousness". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is meant in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code - the best of deeds, f.x. are thieving, extorting, suppressing, torturing and killing - often indiscriminately - in the name of the god.

042 35/10g: "- - - plots of Evil - - -". See 35/10e above.

043 35/10h: "- - - a Penalty terrible - - -". See 3/77b above.

044 35/10i: "- - - and the plotting of such will be void (of result)". Sometimes true, sometimes not true. But is it Allah who decides? - never proved in case.

045 35/11d: "And no female conceives - - -, but with His (Allah's*) knowledge". One more of the Quran's never proved claims - words are very cheap. Proofs are not as cheap, but only proofs prove anything.

046 35/11g: "(The length of your life*) is in a Decree (ordained)". Predestination is very clear in the Quran, even if many Muslims try to tell it "is not really predestination", because full predestination like the Quran very clearly states many places, means man is not the one guilty for the sins he commits, and Allah is highly unjust punishing anybody for sins - or rewards good deeds. Full predestination also means that man has no free will - there are combinations even gods cannot make.

047 35/11h: "All this is easy to Allah". Often claimed, never proved.

048 35/13b: "- - - He (Allah*) has subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law) - - -". An easy claim, but like normal for the Quran not a proof.

049 35/13c: "- - - (the sun and the moon*) each one runs its course for a term appointed". Predestination once more - even for the sun and the moon.

050 35/13d: "Such is Allah your Lord - - -". One more of Muhammad's many never documented claims - claims any believer in any religion can make free of charge on behalf of his god(s).

051 35/13e: "- - - to Him (Allah*) belongs all Dominion". Often claimed, never proved. Words are cheap.

052 35/13g: "And those (gods*) whom ye (non-Muslims*) invoke besides Him (Allah*) have not the least power (except Yahweh?*)". The disturbing fact here is that Allah has also never - never - in any connection has clearly showed his claimed power. All there is are claims never documented".

053 35/14c: “And none (O man!) can tell you (the Truth) like the One (Allah) - - -”. This may be true if Allah exists. But the truth as told in the Quran, at best is partly the truth - lots of mistakes, invalid “signs” and “proofs”, contradictions, unclear language, etc. Also see 13/1g, 28/75, 34/48 above and 43/86 below.

054 35/14e: "- - - the One (Allah*) who is acquainted with all things". See 2/233h above.

#055 35/15a: "O ye men! It is ye that have need of Allah - - -". Only if Allah exists and is a major god. That is to say, there are humans (5-10%?) who likes or needs something strong to lean to, but they only need the belief. They are helped if they just believe strongly enough in a god/gods. It does not mean anything which one or ones, as long as they believe it is reality. Because of this human trait, you find such persons in any and all religions - 100% sure that they are right and with the right god(s). Partly because of the strong religious, social and judicial pressure in Islam, you find a lot of them in that religion, as such pressure combined with one-sided information makes it easier for such tendencies to manifest themselves.

056 35/15b: "- - - Allah is the One Free of all wants - - -". Easily explainable if he does not exist.

057 35/15c: "- - - Allah is - - - worthy of all praise". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Quran's moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of the sharia laws, and about Allah's real - not claimed, but real - goodness, benevolence and mercy. See afterwards if you agree to this verse - - - even if Allah should happen to exist.

058 35/16b: “If He (Allah*) so pleased, He could blot you (man*) out and bring in a New Creation”. Words are cheap as long as you brag - and it may have been bragging, because even if similar things were said other places in the Quran, it never was anything but words. Also see 21/56c above.

059 35/17: "Nor is that (at all) difficult for Allah". Often claimed, never proved.

060 35/18a: "Nor can a bearer of burdens ear another's burden." Here is one more difference between NT and the Quran - and this one is big, as they are 180 degrees opposing each others: The NT says - and it is nearly an order - "carry each others' burdens". Yahweh and Allah the same god? Answer not necessary.

#061 35/18c: "- - - regular Prayer - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

062 35/18d: "- - - the destination (of all) is to Allah (at the Day of Doom*)". Often claimed, never proved, only true if Allah exists and is a major god correctly described by the Quran - a book so full of mistakes that it clearly is not from a god.

063 35/19b: “The blind (non-Muslims*) and the seeing (Muslims*) are not alike - - -”. Is there an irony in the fact that the Quran and Islam demands blind obedience and blind belief?

064 35/20: “Nor (alike*) are the depths of Darkness (meaning non-Muslims*) and the Light (meaning Muslims*) - - -”. Logically as true or untrue as a number of other loose statements in the Quran.

But is a religion and a culture not bringing one single new thought or idea benefiting man in more than 900 years – and that is literally speaking - really representing the light? - or one built on a book full of mistakes and not from a god - does it represent the religious light?

065 35/23c: “Thou (Muhammad*) art no other than a warner.” No, around 615 – 616 AD he was may be only that. But it changed later – from a warner to an enforcer and a robber baron. With the corresponding changes of the religion – and abrogation of and contradictions to the old sayings, like this one. This verse is abrogated – made invalid - by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/38, 3/85, 3/148, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 8/12, 8/38, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many bloody threats, but also verses advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 28 abrogations).

066 35/24c: “Verily We (Allah*) have sent thee (Muhammad*) in truth - - -”. We are back to the literally age old question (the serious questions that started around 610 AD - but Muhammad in the end was military the strongest) about the Quran: What - if anything - is true, and what is not true in the Quran? (Nowadays it is easy to see that at least many of the tales and many of the claims and statements are untrue).

067 35/24e: "- - - truth - - -". See 2/2b and 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

068 35/24g: “Verily We (Allah*) have sent thee (Muhammad*) in truth as a bearer of Glad Tidings and as a warner - - -.” (See 35/24f just above.) This verse is contradicted and often “killed” by at least these verses: 2/191, 2/193, 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 4/90, 5/33, 5/72, 5/73, 8/12, 8/38-39 (the warning), 8/39, 8/60, 9/3, 9/5, 9/14, 9/23, 9/29, 9/33, 9/73, 9/123, 25/36, 25/52, 33/61, 33/73, 35/36, 47/4, 66/9. This includes many advising or permitting political, social, economical, etc. compulsion (with the sword in the background if you protest) – we mention a few here: 3/28, 3/85, 3/148, 4/81, 5/72, 5/73, 9/23, 14/7, 15/3, 33/73, 35/36. They are all quoted under 2/256. (At least 29 contradictions).

It definitely is no proved verity/truth.

###069 35/24i: “- - - there never was a people, without a warner having lived among them (in the past).”

28/46: “Yet (art thou (Muhammad*) sent) as a Mercy from thy Lord (according to the Quran = Allah*) to give warning to a people to whom no warner (= prophet, messenger*) had come before - - -.” No messenger had they had, even though “every people” had had.

32/3: “Nay, it is the Truth from thy (Muhammad’s*) Lord (Allah*), that thou mayest admonish to a people to whom no warner has come before thee - - -.”

34/44: “But We (Allah*) had not given them (Arabs”*) Books which they could study, nor sent messengers to them before thee (Muhammad*) - - -.”

36/6: “In order that thou (Muhammad*) mayest admonish a people (the Arabs*) whose fathers had received no admonition - - -.”

Which verse(s) is/are wrong?

(4 contradictions).

###070 35/24j: “- - - and there never was a people, without a warner (a prophet for Allah*) having lived among them (in the past) - - -”. As said before: Neither in archaeology, nor in architecture, nor in art, nor in history, nor in literature, nor in folklore, nor in folk tales - not even in fairy tales - do we find a single trace of any teaching of monotheism before 610 AD, with two well known exceptions (Jews and Christians) and two or three less known exceptions (Pharaoh Akn-Aton, praying to the sun, a semi-Christian sect in Persia, an Arab sect around 600 BC - likely inspired by the two monotheistic religions in the area – plus the Zoroastrians after a fashion). Some places one or a few gods dominated, but no monotheism.

In the Americas - absolutely nothing.

In Australia - absolutely nothing.

In the Pacific - absolutely nothing.

In Europe - absolutely nothing except Christians and some Jews.

In Africa - absolutely nothing with the exception of one single man: Pharaoh Akn-Aton - but he so definitely was not speaking about Allah. He wanted the sun for the only god. (+ Jews and Christians).

In Asia - absolutely nothing, except in what we now call the Middle East: The Christians, the well known Jews and as already mentioned the Zoroastrians mainly in Persia (after a fashion) and 1 - 2 small monotheistic old sects. Of course there was Buddha, but he was/is no god, and besides he accepted that gods existed, but told they were on wrong ways not leading to nirvana - no monotheism.

124ooo (or more - the number is said to be symbolic, as there may have been more) prophets had to have left some traces somewhere, if the tale was true.

This statement simply is not true. If Islam still insists, they will have to produce strong proofs. “Strong statements demands strong evidence”, to quote science. And not just loose claims, invalid “signs” and “proofs”, and more loose statements like Islam normally provides or produces - real proofs are needed.

071 35/25c: “- - - Clear Signs - - -“. See 2/39b or 2/99 above.

072 35/25e: "(Earlier prophets came with) the Book of Enlightenment". Muhammad claimed that all earlier prophets had got a copy of the timeless claimed "Mother Book" in Heaven - similar to the Quran, which is claimed to be a copy of the same claimed "Mother Book", but that the bad Jews and Christians had falsified it and transformed it into the Bible. (Both science and Islam have thoroughly proved the claim wrong - and besides: How do you f.x. make Jewish and Christian religious leaders agree on how to falsify the texts in a Bible?)

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ONE TIT-BIT: Some Muslims claim Ezra falsified OT, but in addition to other facts:

THERE IS ONE STRONG FACT CONNECTED TO JESUS AND THE OTHER OLD JEWISH PROPHETS: ACCORDING TO THE QURAN THEY ALL WERE GOD MUSLIMS - AN IMPOSSIBILITY IF THEIR CLAIMED HOLY BOOKS FROM ALLAH WERE FALSIFIED. THUS THE CLAIMED FALSIFICATION OF ALSO OT CANNOT HAVE HAPPENED UNTIL AFTER JESUS (F.X. EZRA COULD NOT HAVE FALSIFIED OT, LIKE SOME MUSLIMS CLAIM - IF HE HAD, JESUS HAD RECEIVED WRONG INFORMATION AND HAD BEEN NO GOOD MUSLIM). THIS IN ADDITION TO THAT THE BOOKS WERE SENT DOWN (DIRECTLY) FROM ALLAH TO THE PROPHETS, ACCORDING TO THE QURAN, AND ERRORS IN THEM THEREFORE SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. ALL THE OLD GOOD MUSLIM PROPHETS INCLUDED JESUS THUS MUST HAVE HAD CORRECT HOLY BOOKS - THE OLD JEWISH SCRIPTURES/OT. IF NOT F.X. JESUS HAD BEEN TEACHING WRONG THINGS, WHICH HE DID NOT DO ACCORDING TO THE QURAN (and if the scrolls he read from in the synagogues had differed from what he received from Heaven, he had told about it - if not he was a bad Muslim). THE ONLY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION HERE IS THAT ALSO NO PART OF THE OLD SCRIPTURES - OT - CAN HAVE BEEN FALSIFIED UNTIL AFTER JESUS' TIME.

BUT THERE EXIST PLENTY OF MANUSCRIPTS AND FRAGMENTS OLD ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT IT WAS NOT SIMILAR TO THE QURAN AT THAT TIME!!! IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE SCRIPTURES OF TODAY!!!

In addition there is the problem: How in case make Jews and Christians agree on what new texts to use when they falsified (parts of) the Quran into OT??? And how to make ALL Jews spread over large parts of the world accept the new and falsified holy scriptures without any protests - and destroy all the old copies so thoroughly that not one piece of any of them has been found later? This in addition to the claimed falsification of NT and all the impossibilities and improbabilities which have to be "explained" away concerning the claimed falsification there.

THIS IS ONE OF THE CLAIMS MUHAMMAD MADE UP.

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073 35/26a: "In the end did I (Allah*) punish those who rejected Faith - - -". As this obviously is not true, at least not in this life, as many a people was not punished, many Muslims tends to skip this sentence, or explain it with the "safe" claim that they were - or will be - - punished in the next life.

074 35/26d: "- - - how (terrible) was My (Allah's*) rejection (of them) (non-Muslims*)!" The good and benevolent and forgiving god?

075 35/26e: "- - - how (terrible) was My (Allah's*) rejection (of them) (non-Muslims*)!" One of the many things Allah cannot do unless he exists and is something supernatural.

076 35/27a: "- - - Allah sends down rain from the sky - - -". Muhammad often took natural phenomena and claimed it was Allah who made it. Not one single of these claims was ever proved, in spite of many requests for proofs for Allah and for Muhammad's connection to a god. Also see 11/7a above.

077 35/28b: "- - - knowledge - - -". See 26/83a above.

078 35/28c: "- - - Allah is Exalted in Might - - -". A might never proved in case.

079 35/28d: "- - - Allah is - - - Oft-Forgiving". Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

#080 35/29b: "- - - regular Prayer - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

081 35/29d "- - - out of what We (Allah*) have provided - - -". All you have, is provided by Allah - your own planning and toil hardly counts if you are to believe the Quran.

082 35/29e: "- - - a commerce (the promise of Paradise*) that will never fail". This is not true unless Allah really exists, is a major god, and is correctly described in the Quran - all of which Islam will have to prove to be believed by us - too much is wrong in the book and exactly nothing is proved about Allah.

083 35/30b: (A35/22 – comment omitted in English 2008 edition): “- - - He (Allah*) will grant them their just rewards, and give them (even) more out of His Bounty; for He is Oft-forgiving, Most ready to appreciate (service).” “The Message of the Quran” (2008) has it like this: “- - - for, verily. He is much-forgiving, ever-responding to gratitude.” What the literal meaning is according to the less “revised” 2006 edition, is (translated from Swedish): “He (Allah*) forgives much and He shows great gratitude.” May the different ways of “understanding” the text derive from the fact that ######it cannot be correct that the great god Allah can show gratitude towards mere humans?

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

084 35/31c: “That which We (Allah*) have revealed to thee (Muhammad/people*) of the Book (the Quran*) - - -”. No omniscient god reveal a book with that many mistakes, contradictions, and invalid “signs” and “proofs”, and send it to humans for use as his holy book.

085 35/31d: ”That which We (Allah*) have revealed to thee of the Book (the Quran*) is the Truth - - -”. That the Quran is the truth, is just a claim, not a proved fact. See 35/31a just above. And also: With that many mistakes, etc. it at best is parts and bits of the truth. Also see 13/1g above and 40/75 below. 

Look at all the errors, etc. in the Quran and weep. Or laugh.

086 35/31f: "- - - Allah is assuredly - - - well acquainted and fully Observant". If he exists, if he has the power of a god, and if he is correctly described in the Quran.

087 35/32a: "Then We (Allah*) have given the Book (here the Quran*) - - -". No god have even been involved in a book of a quality like the Quran.

088 35/32c: "- - - We (Allah*) have chosen - - -". Not unless he exists and is something supernatural (but beware that he can make choices even if he should belong to the dark forces).

089 35/32e: "- - - wrong - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

090 35/32h: "- - - by Allah's leave - - -". Allah predestines everything, and does it according to his own Plan which nobody and nothing can change. Then where is the free will of man? (It simply does not exist in case - he only can act according to Allah's unchangeable Plan - - - Allah's leave.)

091 35/32i: "- - - good deeds - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

092 35/32j: "- - - that is the highest Grace". Knowing the Quran's ethical and moral codes, and knowing how likely it is that Allah at all exists, we do not comment on this.

093 35/34b: “- - - Praise be to Allah - - -". See 1/1a and see if you think he deserves it.

094 35/34c: "- - - (Allah is*) Oft-Forgiving - - -". See f.x. 34/2c above.

095 35/35a: "- - - His (Allah's*) Bounty - - -". Everything you have are gifts from Allah - your own ideas and planning and toil count little in the Quran.

096 35/35c: “- - - no toil nor sense of weariness shall touch us (Muslims*) therein (in Paradise*).” Paradise = Like the rich and mighty on Earth: They did not have to toil and become weary.

097 35/36b: “But those who reject (Allah) – for them will be the Fire of Hell”. Not exactly Compulsion on the surface, but at least a clear threat - though the claim is never proved. We include it because this threat is repeated often, so it makes up a considerable psychological compulsion anyhow for anyone who is not sure that Islam is wrong. This verse abrogated (and contradicts) at least these verses (here are 88 out of the 124 Muslim scholars say are abrogated by 9/5): 2/109, 2/190, 2/256, 2/272, 3/20, 4/62, 4/81, 4/90, 5/3, 5/28, 5/48, 5/99, 6/60, 6/66, 6/70, 6/104, 6/107, 6/112, 6/158, 7/87, 7/188, 7/193, 7/199, 8/61, 9/68, 10/41, 10/99, 10/102, 10/108, 11/12, 11/121, 13/40, 15/3, 15/94, 16/35, 16/82, 16/125, 16/126, 16/127, 17/54, 18/29, 18/56, 19/39, 20/130, 21/107, 21/112, 22/49, 22/68, 23/54, 23/96, 24/54, 26/216, 27/92, 28/50, 28/55, 29/18, 29/46, 32/30, 34/25, 34/28, 35/23, 35/24a, 36/17, 39/41, 41/34, 42/6, 42/15, 42/48, 43/83, 43/89, 44/59, 45/14, 46/9, 46/135a, 46/135b, 46/135b, 50/39, 50/45, 51/50-51, 51/54, 52/45, 52/47, 53/29, 67/26, 73/10, 73/11, 79/45, 86/17, 88/22, 109/6. They are all quoted under 9/5. (At least 88 abrogations).

098 35/36e: "Thus (sending to Hell*) do We (Allah*) reward every ungrateful one!". If Allah exists, if he is a major god, and if he is correctly described in the Quran - a book full of errors.

And if Allah is able to punish anyone without this changes his Plan, which nobody and nothing can change according to several statements in the Quran. (If Allah all the same will punish, this in case means that your bad deeds have changed his Plan - or that your bad deed + punishment were predestined by Allah = theater.)

099 35/37c: "- - - the warner (claimed prophet from Allah*) came to you (any non-Muslim*) - - -". Similar is claimed many places in the Quran, but it simply is not true - neither science nor Islam has found the least traces from them. Islam will have to bring proofs - proofs, not just loose claims - to make us believe this.

#100 35/37d: "- - - for the wrongdoers there is no helper". There are so big differences between the ethical and moral codes between the Bible - especially NT and its New Covenant (= the teachings of Jesus) - and the Quran, that a lot of things bad in the Quran, may be not bad or even good in the NT. Then may be Yahweh will be a helper at least for his followers?

101 35/37f: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

102 35/38a: "Verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See f.x. 2/2b and 35/6 above.

103 35/38b: "Verily Allah knows (all) the hidden things of the heavens (plural and wrong*) and earth: verily He has full knowledge if all that is in (men's) hearts". This is a reminder and a warning you meet in different forms many places in the Quran. It normally has one (and often more) of 3 functions: Warn you against trying to cheat Allah (in reality Muhammad on this Earth) by doing not your best. Or an incitement to do your best because Allah sees you and rewards you - good also for Muhammad and his successors. Or soothing you that the ones who do bad things will be punished sooner or later, even if they have a good life now.

But why does a god who knows "all that is in your heart" need to test you - f.x. by sending you on raids and into wars for stealing, suppression, extortion, slave taking, etc.? If he knows everything - and on top of all predestines everything - there is not a comma he can learn from it.

104 35/39b: “He (Allah*) is it That has made you inheritors in the earth - - -”. See 11/7a above.

105 35/39c: "- - - if, then, any do reject (Allah), their rejection (works) against themselves - - -". This may be correct if Allah exists and is a god - but only if that god is correctly described in the Quran. If he does not exist, it is better to leave the Quran, partly because of that the ethical, moral, and judicial codes at points are very immoral and inhuman in the Quran. And if Allah exists and is part of the dark forces, it definitely is better to look for some other leader.

106 35/39f: "- - - their (non-Muslim's*) Rejection (of the Quran*) but adds to (their own) undoing”. See 35/39d above. (As long as the quote is not proved, it simply sounds like slander.)

107 35/40d: "Show me (Muhammad*) what it is they (other gods*) have created in the (wide) earth". But the problem is the same with Allah: Show us even an atom you can prove he has created. Words are very cheap, and any priest of any god can claim anything as long as he is able to evade all questions or requests for proofs, like the case is in Islam. Only loose words. Muhammad also normally demanded proofs from any opponent, and thus proved that proofs counts and are essential, but was never able to prove any of his own central claims.

108 35/40g: "Or have We (Allah*) given them a book from which they (can derive) clear (evidence)?" This sentence is so naive, that one has to remember that in the really old times when few knew how to read and write, the written word carried huge respect among the uneducated classes. Many of them simply did not know that it is just as easy to make up books as to make up verbal tales, and that a book does not prove one iota more than a verbal story: In both cases the contents have to be checked and proved true, before it is evidence for anything at all. The Quran has so many mistakes, etc. that it has zero value as proof, unless there are additional proofs. It here is symptomatic that serious science never looks to the Quran for proofs or even indication for anything that is older than 610 AD.

109 35/40h: "Or have We (Allah*) given them a book from which they (can derive) clear (evidence)?" What at least is clear, is that no god gave Muhammad a book. No god was involved in a book where so much is wrong like in the Quran.

110 35/40i: “- - - clear (evidence) - - -“. No book in itself is clear evidence - only proved facts in it can be that. There f.x. is no clear or valid evidence for anything concerning Allah in the entire Quran. See 2/39b and 2/99 above. This sentence in reality is very naive.

111 35/40k: "- - - the wrongdoers promise each other nothing but dilutions". Psychologically a good claim as long as the listeners believe it. It is unbelievable what you can make people in a religious fervor believe.

112 35/40m: "- - - wrongdoers - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. Also one of Muhammad's standard names for non-Muslims (discriminating?)

#113 35/41a: "It is Allah Who sustains the heavens (plural and wrong) the earth - - -". What does this mean? We have till now not seen one Islamic try to explain this sentence, which is not either un-scientific, trying to adjust the text to modern scientific reality, which is not possible if you look at the whole book, or fast, but loose talk. Also see 11/7a above.

114 35/41d: “- - - heavens - - -“. Plural and wrong. See 2/22d.

#115 35/41e: The general content of this verse is of the category: Believe it if you want to and are able to - but no scientist believes it.

116 35/41f: (YA3933): "The universe, as we know it, shows not only evidence of initial designs, but also the working of an intelligent Providence - - -". Dishonesty. Creationists claim this and this, but there is no proofs for an intelligence behind the creation or running of the universe. Also YA knew this, if for no other reason than that creationists had hailed such a proof with thundering noise if such proofs had existed - a fact YA had to know and there is no such noise, only claims. As for "proofs for initial design" normally not even creationists claim this - a "singularity" is a "singularity" and a starting point and a point nobody seriously tries to explain, not to mention claims contains proof for anything. It is what happens after the "singularity" creationists claim - but only claim - is influenced by a god. Like so much from Muslims in religious debates, the first part of YS's claim is not true, and the rest an undocumented claim.

117 35/41g: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth.

118 35/41h: "- - - He (Allah*) is Most Forbearing - - -". See 2/2b above.

119 35/41i: "(Allah is*) Oft-Forgiving". Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god, neither of which is anything but claims.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above. Allah can neither forgive nor accept prayers if full predestination is true like the Quran states - it would mean changes in his predestined Plan "which nobody and nothing can change".

120 35/42c: "- - - his guidance (the Quran*) - - -". See 16/107 above.

121 35/42e: “- - - their flight (from righteousness (= the teachings of Muhammad*)) - - -”. Any teaching based on a book containing large numbers of mistakes, contradictions, and invalid “proofs” and “signs”, and on top off all is only told by one single man of dubious morality and character (womanizing, rape, robbery, extortion, murder and mass murder - and lust for power and women - all this and more are well documented by Islam itself, though glossed over) - such a teaching does not represent righteousness. This even more so as it strongly incites to hate, stealing, suppression, killing and war - not very righteous or good). Similar claims in 6/111 – 17/41 – 17/46 – 71/6.

122 35/42g: "- - - (- - - righteousness) - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

123 35/43a: "- - - Evil - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. f.x. it was evil not to go on raids for Muhammad - raids mainly for stealing, extortion, enslaving and killing.

124 35/43b: "Now are they (people*) but looking for the way the ancient were dealt with?" In and around Arabia there were scattered empty or ruined houses, villages, towns, etc. Also in old Arab folklore there were tales about former tribes, now disappeared. Muhammad claimed - as normal without the slightest proofs - that they had all been finished off by Allah because of sins. Science has a number of other possible explanations.

125 35/43c: "But no change wilt thou (Muhammad? people?) find in Allah's way (of dealing) - - -". What Allah has predestined, is impossible to change.

126 35/43d: "But no change wilt thou (Muhammad? people?) find in Allah's way (of dealing) - - -". If one compares to especially NT, there are huge changes - huge. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not even in the same brigade, not to mention in the same line of religion or prophets.

127 35/44e: "(Allah*) is - - - All-Powerful". Well, he has never clearly shown his power - till now it is all ONLY words.

128 35/44d: "(Allah*) is All-Knowing - - -". In that case he did not make the Quran - too much is wrong.

129 35/45e: “- - - when their term expires - - -“. Allah has set terms of time - predestination - and nothing can change his predestinations, his Plan.

130 35/45f: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See 2/2b above.

131 35/45g: "- - - Allah has in sight all His Servants." Only possible - not sure, but possible - if he exists and is something supernatural, white or black.

5722 + 131 = 5853 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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