1000+ Claims in the Quran - Invalid Unless Proven, Surah 33

 

SURAH 33: Al-Ahzab (The Confederates)

(Medina, 625-629 AD)

 

001  "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful". Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Muslim moral code, the unjust/immoral parts of sharia, and the Quran's rules for lying, thieving/looting, enslaving, raids and wars, plus the rules for treatment of girls and women - free and captives - and see if you agree. Always when there is a distance between words and corresponding demands and deeds, we personally believe in the demands and deeds. Glorious words are cheap, demands and deeds are reliable. Glorifying words and claims are too cheap for anyone to use and disuse - when you read, judge from realities, not from propaganda.

002 33/1c: "Fear Allah - - -". No reason unless he exists and is something supernatural (but may be double reason if he in case belongs to the dark forces).

003 33/1f: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See 32/22c above.

004 33/1g: “- - - Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.” The mistakes, etc. in the Quran proves the opposite – or that something else is wrong.

005 33/2b: “- - - that which comes to thee (the words of the Quran to Muhammad*) by inspiration from thy Lord (Allah*) - - - “. Can a book with that many mistakes and contradictions and unclear language, that many “signs” and “proofs” without logical value, and absolutely without one single valid proof, told by a man of such a “good” quality (see 31/30) really and surely come from a benevolent, kind, good and omniscient god? Or is something wrong with Allah? Actually also Islam most reluctantly accepts that there is no proof of Allah, or of Allah’s sending down the Quran or of Islam. A book like “The Message of the Quran” dismisses this with that intellectually it is impossible not to see from the texts of the Quran that the book is made from Allah, and that it is a primitive way of thinking and reasoning, to have to ask for proofs to accept the full truth of the Quran (actually that is to turn reality upside down; one has to be very primitive - and naive - to accept something to be true, just because a rather suspect book + your fathers and surroundings claim that as their fathers again had been told it was the truth, it must be the truth, and must be accepted without questions (taqlid). It/they simply repeat and repeat that it must be true - repeat a lie often enough, and people will start to believe it, Goebbels said.)

Nyet - a good English word meaning doubly no: Such a book is from no-one omniscient.

006 33/2c: "- - - by inspiration - - -". A very convenient way to get information, at least if you need some extra help from your god f.x. in your family life. Also impossible for others to check. The word is not mentioned in connection to contacting the prophets in the Bible. Yahweh only used direct contact, visions, and dreams for giving information (4. Mos. 12/6-8).

007 33/2e: "- - - for Allah is well acquainted with (all) that ye know". The old reminder: Do not try to cheat Allah or your leaders. But also see 2/233h above.

008 33/1g: “- - - Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.” The mistakes, etc. in the Quran proves the opposite – or that something else is wrong.

009 33/2e: "- - - for Allah is well acquainted with (all) that ye know". The old reminder: Do not try to cheat Allah or your leaders. But also see 2/233h above.

010 33/4g: "- - - the (right) Way". The claimed road to the Quran's and Islam's paradise. See 10/9f above.

011 33/5d: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." See surahs from Medina, the immoral and sometimes inhuman parts of the Islamic moral code, and the unjust parts of sharia - read them and see if you agree. Whenever there are divergences - not to mention an abyss - between nice words and actual life, we always believe in the actual life.

012 33/6c: "The Prophet (Muhammad*) is closer to the Believers than their own selves - - -". His followers hardly were aware of it, but this is an extremely strong demand on them.

013 33/6d: "- - - the Decree of Allah - - -". There is no proof for that it is from Allah - - - if he exists. False prophets often claims to be quoting their god, when they in reality are not - sometimes even quoting only themselves.

014 33/7a: "- - - We (Allah*) took from the Prophets their Covenant - - -". Even if we omit the fact that the Bible talks about Yahweh and the Quran about Allah - 2 obviously very different gods - there still remains the fact that Yahweh did not make that kind of a covenant with his prophets like said in verses 7 and 8, for the very obvious reason that he did not need that kind of information - according to the Bible Yahweh is really omniscient for things which happens, and then why should he ask for what he already knew? One more clear difference between Yahweh and Allah. Not the same god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.

015 33/7b: "- - - We (Allah*) took from the Prophets their Covenant: as (We did) from thee (Muhammad*) - - -". There is no proof for a covenant between Allah and Muhammad - or the Muslims. A number of claims, but not one proof. Worse: The only "documentation" for his very existence is a made up - at least from no god - book based only on the words of a man with highly dubious moral and reliability, liking power and women (not uncommon for self proclaimed "prophets".

And the covenants with the Biblical prophets were with Yahweh, not with Allah, according to the Bible, and - where information about their real religion exists - also in accordance with science.

016 33/7e: "- - - Jesus the son of Mary - - -". See 5/110a above.

017 33/8a: “That (Allah) may question the (custodians (see 33/7 and 33/8a just above*)) of Truth concerning the Truth they (were charged with) - - -”. The Quran says/pretends that the old scriptures of Israel were the same as in the Quran, but that bad Jews distorted them. If that had been true, they at best were charged with bits and pieces of truth - see all mistakes, lofty “explanations” and invalid “signs” and “proofs” in the Quran. (Besides science has proved the Bible - here OT - is not falsified. Islam has proved it even stronger by being unable to find any falsification in all the thousands of relevant old manuscripts. There may be some mistakes, but no falsifications.) One more thing: No omniscient god like what Yahweh is according to the Bible, needs to ask about anything which has happened. (It is done some times in the Bible, but for rhetoric reasons.)

A point: In no case even OT can have been falsified until after 33 AD. If falsified before, the claimed good Muslim Jesus had warned about it. (And science knows very clearly that nothing in the Bible is falsified later.)

018 33/8b: “- - - the (custodians (those whom the Quran reckons to be prophets or other teachers of religion*)) of Truth (the teachings of Islam*) - - -”. The teachings of Islam as represented by the Quran, at best is partly true - see all the mistakes (and contradictions and invalid “proofs” and “signs“, etc.).

019 33/9c: "Remember the Grace of Allah, (bestowed) on you (Muslims*) - - -". There never in the entire history and before was a documented case of Allah bestowing anything on anyone - Muslims or not. A lot of claims, but not one documented case. And for comparison: Muslims claimed there were several hundred thousand Hadiths - the collectors found that only a very small percent of them may be - may be - true.

020 33/9f: "- - - and forces ye (the people of Medina*) saw not - - -". After the siege was lifted, Muhammad claimed that part of the reason for the "victory" was an army of warrior angels sent down by Allah.

021 33/9g: "- - - Allah sees (clearly) what ye (people*) do". The standard warning and promise - "the carrot and the stick" - but also see 2/233h above.

022 33/9-10: There were a few cases where Muhammad claimed they had got help from Allah - but only claims, no real indication, not to mention a clear-cut and proved case. Such claims are cheap.

023 33/12a: "- - - those in whose hearts is a disease - - -". "Quran-speak" for non-Muslims. A sympathetic name?

024 33/12d: "- - - Allah and His Messenger - - -". Muhammad's main, but never proved mantra to glue himself to his god - his platform of power.

####Note how close Muhammad attaches himself to the power of his claimed god - in plain words: "Obey me - Muhammad". You find this many, many places in the Quran. Power was the main thing Muhammad sought - and riches to gain more power. The Quran clearly indicates that power - and respect - meant even more for him than women. And he was eager for (young) women - willing ones and not willing ones - and at least one child. Also see 63/6a below.

025 33/12g: "- - - Allah and His Messenger promised us nothing but dilution". Already at that time there were many who saw that something was seriously wrong with Muhammad and with his new religion.

026 33/12-15 Pep-talk for the lukewarm - not all wanted to wage war, but Muhammad demanded this - or maybe it was the benevolent, good god Allah?

027 33/15a: "- - - they (Muslims*) had already a covenant with Allah - - -". Is this sure and secure as there are so many other things which are wrong in the Quran? - And what if the book is all false? - it at least in no case is from any god (too many mistake, contradictions, cases of wrong logic, etc.). Some Dutch settlers in South Africa once made a "covenant" and a deal with Yahweh/God - - - but "forgot" to invite him to talks about how the covenant should be, and forgot to ask him if he accepted the deal. As there is no god behind a book of such a sorrowful quality (except the superficial and irrelevant fact that the language later was polished to good standard - irrelevant because the only thing which counts in a religion is: Is it a true religion with a true god?) like the Quran, this verse makes us think about that parody.

Besides there is nowhere in the Quran told where and when such a covenant was made or what it contained.

028 33/16b: “Running away will not profit you, if you are running away from death or slaughter; and even if (ye do escape), no more than a brief (respite) will ye be allowed to enjoy”. Wrong. It is very easy to prove by means of statistics, that if you get away from a battle, your chances for being alive one year later, greatly improve. Any god had known – but Muhammad did not know statistics. (Actually the claim also is contra-intuitive and against common sense – he had to know they were lies even if he knew no statistics, but predestination was good propaganda for getting more warriors and more ferocious warriors. Also see 3/154 below). Besides: Even a short piece of time + another place are divergences from Allah's omniscient previous predestination and knowledge.

This in addition to that modern statistical science long since has proved this verse nonsense. This even more so as even if they had got "no more than a brief (respite)", the laws of chaos then had changed the future - and Allah's precognition was gone.

But Muhammad got many and terrific, but naïve warriors - - - and was so intelligent that he had to know he was lying.

029 33/16d: “Running away will not profit you (humans/Muslims*), if ye are running away from death and slaughter; and even if (ye do escape), no more than a brief (respite) will ye be allowed to enjoy.” This is one of the really clear declarations: Go to war for Muhammad (and his successors), because you will not die until your time is up anyhow – and when it is up, you will die no matter. (It is likely this was the main reason behind Muhammad's strong claims about predestination, and also for the fact that he seems to have put more stress on predestination in later years, than in the more peaceful times in Mecca - in Medina he needed warriors.

030 33/17b: "Who can screen you (people*) from Allah - - -". Anyone if Allah does not exist - and there also is the Question of f.x. Yahweh.

031 33/17d: "- - - Mercy (from Allah*) - - -". See 1/1a above.

032 33/17e: "Nor will they (people*) find for themselves, besides Allah, any protector or helper".

This only can be true if Allah exists and is a major god. There are no real indications for that this is the case.

And it only can be true if no other god exists - and the Quran admits that the old Jewish and Christian god exists, even though they try to call him Allah instead of Yahweh (the two cannot be the same god in spite of the Quran's claims - the basic ideas and MANY details of the teachings are too different.

033 33/18b: "Verily, Allah knows those among you who keep back (men) - - -". According to the Quran Allah knows absolutely everything - do not try to cheat.

034 33/18e: "- - - (some bad men*) come not to fight except for a little while". Compare this to NT. Definitely not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad even more surely not in the same religion or line of prophets (even if Muhammad had been a real prophet).

"The Religion of Peace"?

##035 33/19b: "- - - covetous of goods". Stealing/robbing - and raping, enslaving and suppressing - were heavy motifs for many of the warriors. And Islam never debates the economic, cultural and human catastrophes "the religion of peace" under a good and benevolent god and a semi-saintly self proclaimed prophet inflicted on millions. They only talk about the glorious warriors, stolen riches, lots of slaves and slave women, and power. Where is the ethics, the moral, the empathy? If you read Muslim religious literature, you will see that the fundamental mentality and ideology are the same today.

"Do unto others like you want others do unto you"?

#####036 33/19d: "Such men (who do not want to fight*) have no faith - - -.” What does it tell about Muhammad and Islam that they stated that unless you were a willing warrior, you were no good Muslim? Some contrast to propaganda about "Islam is the Religion of Peace"!! But then Muslims and Islam seldom claim that "Islam is the Religion of Honesty".

037 33/19f: "- - - that is easy for Allah". Similar claims you find several places in the Quran - but not one time a proved case.

038 33/20e: "- - - they (no good Muslims*) would fight but a little". Pep-talk: You of course are better?

###039 33/21a: “Ye (Muslims*) have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the final Day - - -“. Wrong. Thieving/robbing, womanizing, raping, lying, betraying, extorting, suppressing, murdering, hate mongering, war mongering, mass murder, raids for stealing and robbing and killing, and wars of aggression – that is no “beautiful pattern” according to any human moral or ethical philosophy, except in some war religions, included Islam. It tells volumes about Islam that this man is their greatest hero and shining idol. The claim is strongly contradicted by the realities in his teachings and his life, based on Islamic historical sources.

But it is worth remembering that Islam uses the same glorious words about Muhammad and all his deeds and "undeeds" today, like the ones Muhammad here used about himself. It tells something about Islam and about some Muslims - especially about the leaders and the scholars who really know the Quran and Muhammad.

040 33/21c: "- - - the Messenger of Allah - - -". One of Muhammad's never proved mantras to glue himself to his god and his platform of power. But the message Muhammad told about, was the Quran. And as the Quran with all its errors, etc. is not from a god, can then Muhammad be a messenger from a god? It also is symptomatic that Muhammad more often used the title "messenger" than the title "prophet". He may have been careful so as not to risk too many questions about proving he was a prophet. 

041 33/21g: "- - - the Praise of Allah". But does he deserve it - if he exists? See 1/1a above.

042 33/22a: When the really believing Muslims in Medina saw the attacking force in 627 AD (Battle of the Trench) “it only added to their faith and their zeal in obedience”. Tales of heroism induces lust for heroism – a psychologically right story. If it is true, is another question.

943 33/22d: "- - - Allah and His Messenger - - -". Muhammad's most used but never proved mantra to glue himself to Allah - his platform of power.

####Note how close Muhammad attaches himself to the power of his claimed god - in plain words: "Obey me - Muhammad". You find this many, many places in the Quran. Power was the main thing Muhammad sought - and riches to gain more power. The Quran clearly indicates that power - and respect - meant even more for him than women. And he was eager for (young) women - willing ones and not willing ones - and at least one child.

044 33/22h: "- - - their zeal in obedience". Glorify obedience and it induces willingness to obedience in naive minds - a psychologically good phrase if Muhammad wanted obedience. Leaders often do - and dictators more than others.

045 33/23c: "- - - their (some Muslims*) Covenant with Allah - - -". See 33/15a+b+c above.

046 33/23d: "- - - some (Muslims*) have completed their vow (to the extreme) - - -". = They have been killed in raids and wars for riches, Allah and Muhammad - or at least for riches and Muhammad (nearly all the raids during the lifetime of Muhammad were for stealing riches and taking captives for extortion and slaves - and Muhammad god 20% to 100% of what they stole (20% if there was a fight, 100% if the victims gave in without a fight). For comparison we may mention that one single time in the Bible - in the OT - Yahweh asked for a tribute from spoils taken in a war. He asked for 1:500 (= 0.2% - 4. Mos. 30/28). Allah/Muhammad demanded 100 to 500 times as much - and each and every time. The same god? Please use your brain, not only your ears.

047 33/24a: "That Allah may reward the men - - -". This will depend entirely on for one thing if he exists, for another if he wants to (= if the Quran has told the truth about him being a god of war and blood), and if he in case is able to = if he is something supernatural (and remember that if he in case belongs to the dark forces, the "reward" may be surprising).

048 33/24b: "- - - Truth - - -". This is just a claim, not a proved truth. See 2/2b and 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

049 33/24c: “- - - Allah may reward the men of Truth (Muslims*) - - - and punish the Hypocrites if that be His Will - - -”. A sure way to always have an explanation: "If that be Allah’s will". And the same can explain any injustice Allah or Muhammad would not - or could not - rectify.

050 33/24d: "- - - if that be His (Allah's*) Will - - -”. See 14/19d above.

051 33/24e: "- - - Mercy - - -". See 2/2b above.

052 33/24f: "- - - Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful". See f.x. 1/1a or 33/5d above.

053 33/25a: "And Allah turned back the Unbelievers - - -". This refers to the battle of Medina - also called the Battle of the Trench. The Muslims had dug a deep and wide trench in front of the town. (The other 3 sides were mountains or dense forest). The attackers were unable to cross it under fire. Then there came cold and windy weather, and after some time the attackers gave in and left. But was the cold weather caused by Allah or by nature?

054 33/25e: "And Allah is Full of Strength, Able to enforce His Will". Why then has he not one single time showed so? Not one single time in all history has he clearly showed his power. Yahweh showed his power many a time according to the Bible - claims which are confirmed in the Quran in connections to some of the old Jewish prophets, included Jesus (though the Quran wrongly call Yahweh Allah in the Quran - the two are fundamentally too different to be the same one). But Allah never one single time.

055 33/25f: "- - - to enforce His (Allah's*) Will". The thought-provoking fact here is that nothing provably came from Allah - and the Quran definitely did not come from any god. Was it Allah's will or Muhammad's will?

056 33/26c: "And those of the people of the Book (in this case the Jews in and around Medina*) who aided them (Muhammad accused these Jews of helping his enemies*) - - -". It is clear that they stayed out of the fighting. We have not found reliable proofs for that they acted against the Muslims. But they represented intellectual and religious - and thus political - opposition, and he wanted to get rid of that. The first psychological moment came after the defeat at Uhud - he needed a "victory", and riches to the followers would give them other things to think about. And then after "the Battle of the Trench" he was strong enough to finish off - in the horrible meaning of the word - the last strong opposition. We may add that if the behavior of the Muslims during the mass murders of the men from Qurayza tribe - the last big Jewish tribe in Medina - is correctly described, it tells a lot about what kind of people it was who followed Muhammad and brought him to power.

##057 33/26d: “And those of the People of the Book (the Jews of the Qurayza tribe - see above*) who had aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror in their hearts. (So that) some ye (the Muslims/Muhammad) slew, and some ye made prisoners.” Very simple and “good and lawful” - to quote another verse - mass murdering, enslavement, rape, and robbery. The same happened to most of the ones who earlier had been chased away from Medina, but not fled far enough - the ones who had stopped in Khaybar had their men killed and the women and children raped and enslaved. Allah is good and benevolent and gave the Arabs much loot and many slaves to work and use in other ways. Muslims - not even today - never reflected over that to steal and rape and enslave and murder, you had to ruin and destroy the lives of other humans. This fact is never mentioned by "the religion of peace", never reflected on, never compared to ethics or moral or sympathy or empathy in any Islamic media or publication we have met or heard about. Those warriors are even today reckoned to be pure heroes.

Well, on thinking it over we are wrong - it is compared to the Quran's moral code: The Quran clearly says "it is lawful and good". Which tells a lot about the religion. Even today.

A good and loving god and a peaceful religion - and this was very far from the only pogrom in Muslim countries through the times. But it is typical that Allah sanctified the attack only afterwards. (Perhaps except Khaybar - if Muhammad told the truth).

058 33/26f: "- - - the People of the Book who aided them (they were accused of aiding Mecca*) - - -". See 33/12c above.

#059 33/26g: "- - - some (the Jewish men and male youths*) ye (Muslim's*) slew, and some (= the Jewish women and children) ye made prisoners." The word "slave" is a loaded word today - and Muslims not always 100% honest. Muhammad did not make them prisoners, but slaves, and he sold and gave them away. Muhammad also personally raped first Rayhana bint Amr, and when Khaybar finally was taken a couple of years later, Safijja bint Huayay - Safiyya was 17, and married very shortly before - and Muhammad raped her after he had tortured her husband Kinana to death (he lit a fire on his chest, let it burn till Kinana was practically dead, and then beheaded him - he believed Kinana knew about hidden money Muhammad wanted to steal). Also Muhammad’s slave Marieh likely had little choice when he wanted sex with her. We do not know if he raped more women - or children - but the casual way his men reacted to the rapes, may indicate something. Muslims are very right: Muhammad is a moral idol for Muslims - Islam after all is a war religion.

060 33/27a: (Continued from 33/26 above): "And He (Allah*) made you heirs of their land, their houses, their goods, and of land ye had not frequented (before) - - -". Muhammad "on the war-path" stole everything - in this case also their homes and land - - - in addition to making the women and children slaves and murdering the men (some 700 men and male youths).

Muhammad was very different from Jesus. Very. And living in a totally different religion.

061 33/27b: “And He (Allah*) made you (Muslims*) heirs of their (Jews'*) land, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things”. Some rich spoils of war can justify much, and quiet many a man’s conscience - especially when a god sanctifies it. Could such things happen today or in the future? - we do not mention names like Darfur or Indonesia or East Timor or the Turks against Christian underlings around 1900 AD - f.x. in Armenia and Smyrna. It is accepted in the Quran as "lawful and good" and the Quran cannot be changed - a fact those forget who talks about liberalizing Islam. If Islam gains the upper hand, things like this may happen again, as it is part of the Quran's unchangeable and partly immoral moral code.

Islam was and is very different from Jesus. Very. And Muslims living in a totally different religion.

062 33/27c: ""And Allah hath power over all things". Similar often claimed in the Quran, but never proved. Allah also sometimes is used - like here - to justify immoral, injustice, and inhumanities.

063 33/28c: “O Prophet (Muhammad*)! Say to thy Consorts - - -". Allah frequently took part in the private life of Muhammad - via a book may be made before the universe was made (13.7 billion years ago) and in any case revered by Allah and his angels as "the Mother of the Book (the Quran*)" (13/39, 43/4, 85/21-22). Believe it if you want - if it is true, it is a 1000% (one thousand %) proof for that no living being ever had a trace of free will throughout the billions of years, and that scientists are wrong about things like chaos and entropy - some of the most basic elements of physics.

064 33/28-29: “O Prophet (Muhammad*)! Say to thy Consorts: ‘If it be that ye desire the life of this World, and its glitter – then come! I will provide for your enjoyment and set you free in a handsome manner. But if ye seek Allah and His Messenger, and the Home of the Hereafter, verily (it definitely is no proved verity/truth*), Allah has prepared for the well-doers amongst you a great reward”. Muhammad had his women problems – and Allah(?) helped him – this is not the only time. Look at this text, take into account the intense religious fervor of Medina at that time, the impression and one-mindedness that is the normal effect on people in intense, one-sided religious hotspots – Islam is just not the only one through history or resent history - plus the naivety which follows lack of education and of one-sided propaganda, plus the fact that the women knew what they had, but had every reason to fear the future if they were alone in a society with small possibilities for earning their own living, and in a society where they would forever be stamped for leaving “the Prophet” if they were “set free” - - - there is no doubt that Muhammad knew his psychology and people. He used one of the age-old strategies the powerful and resourceful through ages has used, and uses, to manipulate his surroundings – included his women. And at places in the Quran he is backed up by his god – is that really a task for a god? – and is it something that belongs in a “Mother Book” revered by the omniscient and omnipotent god in his Heaven? (And if man – and women – has free will, so that the future is not locked – how could these details be written in the book billions of years before it happened? – that could only be done if man and animals all are puppets on a string totally without a free will.)

Muhammad was intelligent and manipulating.

And to the degree this story could be a model for others, this was how life were and is for Muslim women for all future, for Muhammad was and is the great idol and moral ideal.

Read 33/28-29 through 33/33 together to get a picture of his – and very many other dominant religious persons in strong and dark religious societies – technique. One of the much used – and proved efficient – ways of manipulating dependant persons. Even the use of the god is very normal.

065 33/28-33b: One question: Do private stuff like this belong in a holy book?

066 33/29a: "- - - Allah and His Messenger - - -". standard, but never proved, mantra for Muhammad to glue himself to his platform of power; his god.

####Note how close Muhammad attaches himself to the power of his claimed god - in plain words: "Obey me - Muhammad". You find this many, many places in the Quran. Power was the main thing Muhammad sought - and riches to gain more power. The Quran clearly indicates that power - and respect - meant even more for him than women. And he was eager for (young) women - willing ones and not willing ones - and at least one child.

067 33/29e: "- - - verily - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. See 2/2b above.

068 33/29f: "- - - Allah has prepared - - -". Impossible unless he exists.

069 33/29g: "- - - well-doers - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is relative to the book's own partly immoral moral code. Compared to the one and fundamental "constitution" of all moral all ethics and of moral and ethical rules: "Do unto others like you want others to do unto you", the Quran's - and thus Islam's - moral code is unethical and immoral a number of places, even horrible some places. (F.x. the best deeds were raids and wars in the name of Allah - most of them in reality for riches, slaves and power. Muslims defends this with that such behavior only is permitted during jihad - holy war. But that is no defense - doing it in the name of the god in reality makes stealing, rape, enslavement, torture, and murder, etc. even more despicable).

070 33/29h: "- - - a great reward (Paradise*)". If Allah exists. If Allah is behind the Quran. If the Quran in addition tells the full truth and only the truth. Also see 10/9f and 13/1g above and 40/75 below.

071 33/30b: “O Consorts of the Prophet! If any of you were guilty of evident unseemly conduct, the Punishment would be doubled for her, and that is easy for Allah”. For comments see 33/28-29 above – and also note that the god is easy to use, for Muhammad like for many self centered human manipulators in societies where religion is a dominant presence.

Read 33/28-29 through 33/33 + 33/50 and 33/51 together to get a picture of his – and very many other dominant religious persons in strong and dark religious societies – technique. One of the much used – and proved efficient – ways of manipulating dependant persons. Even the use of the god is typical for many such persons. All this formally is about Muhammad’s private intimate life, but as what he said and did, was and is the correct ethical and moral code in Islam – and hence the norm for all women concerning this aspect of life - we include it also in the chapter about women’s life under Islam.

This strong warning also means that Muhammad did not trust his women too much - his reaction to Aishah's "adventure" proves the same.

But: Do this kind of stuff belong in a "holy book"? - and in case why do only Muhammad, but no other claimed prophet get much special service?

072 33/30d: "- - - and that is easy for Allah". One of the very many claims in the Quran which never was or is proved.

073 33/31a: “But if any of you (Muhammad's many women*) is devout in the service of Allah and His Messenger (also to solve such problems he glues himself to his platform of power – the god*), and works righteousness – to her shall We (Allah*) grant her reward twice: and We have prepared for her a generous sustenance.”

As said above: Read 33/28-29 through 33/33 + 33/50 and 33/51 together to get a picture of his – and very many other dominant religious persons in strong and dark religious societies – technique. One of the much used – and proved efficient – ways of manipulating dependant persons. Even the use of the god is typical for such persons. All this formally is about Muhammad’s private intimate life, but all what he said and did was and is the correct ethical and moral code in Islam – and hence the norm for all women concerning this aspect of life - for everybody and for all times.

33/30+31 together make a case of "the stick and the carrot" - presumable from Allah. But does private details from the claimed prophet's wives' and other women's private life belong in a holy book delivered by a god?

Once more: Do this kind of stuff belong in a "holy book"? - and in case why do only Muhammad but no other claimed prophet get much special service?

074 33/31b: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Muhammad's standard, but never proved mantra to glue himself to his god and platform of power. Besides: A man preaching a tale full of mistakes, a partly immoral moral code, etc., is he the messenger of a god?

####Note how close Muhammad attaches himself to the power of his claimed god - in plain words: "Obey me - Muhammad". You find this many, many places in the Quran. Power was the main thing Muhammad sought - and riches to gain more power. The Quran clearly indicates that power - and respect - meant even more for him than women. And he was eager for (young) women - willing ones and not willing ones - and at least one child.

075 33/31f: "- - - We (Allah*) have prepared for her (any of Muhammad's wives and other women*) a generous Sustenance (in Paradise*)". Also for the wives of Muhammad, parts of the reward were promises of a nice next life - - - if Allah and his paradise exist. And if not Muhammad had his pleasure for cheap money.

But do this kind of stuff belong in a "holy book"? - and in case why do only Muhammad but no other claimed prophet get much special service?

076 33/32b: “O Consorts of the Prophet! If any of you were guilty of evident unseemly conduct, the Punishment would be doubled for her, and that is easy for Allah”. For comments see 33/28-29 above – and also note that the god is easy to use, for Muhammad like for many self centered human manipulators in societies where religion is a dominant presence.

Read 33/28-29 through 33/33 + 33/50 and 33/51 together to get a picture of his – and very many other dominant religious persons in strong and dark religious societies – technique. One of the much used – and proved efficient – ways of manipulating dependant persons. Even the use of the god is typical for many such persons. All this formally is about Muhammad’s private intimate life, but as what he said and did was and is the correct ethical and moral code in Islam – and hence the norm for all women concerning this aspect of life - we include it also in the chapter about women’s life under Islam.

This strong warning also means that Muhammad did not trust his women too much - his reaction to Aishah's "adventure" proves the same.

######But again: Does this kind of stuff belong in a "holy book"? - and in case why do only Muhammad but no other claimed prophet get this special service?

##077 33/32d: “O Consorts of the Prophet! Ye are not like any of the (other) women: if ye do fear (Allah), be not too complaisant of speech lest one in whose heart is disease should be moved with desire: but speak ye a speech (that is) just".

Once more: Read 33/28-29 through 33/33 + 33/50 and 33/51 together to get a picture of his – and very many other dominant religious persons in strong and dark religious societies – technique. One of the much used – and proved efficient – ways of manipulating dependant persons. Even the use of the god, is typical for such persons. All this formally is about Muhammad’s private intimate life, but as what he said and did was and is the correct ethical and moral code in Islam – it is the norm for all women concerning this aspect of life. Here Muhammad puts extra pressure on his women to make sure they "behave".

Another question: Does Muhammad's private sex life and problems with all his women - married and not married - belong in a timeless holy "Mother Book" revered by the god and his angels in Heaven? And how come it could be reliably written in that book before the world was created, if Muhammad or his women or anybody else had free will and could change their minds and thus history?

078 33/32f: "- - - speech (that is) just". Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral and judicial codes - remember f.x. al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), etc., and Muhammad's view on cheating, betrayal and keeping words/promises/oaths.

079 33/33a: “And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger (!!*). And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye Members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless.” Yes, this is how the omnipotent, mighty god speaks to solve Muhammad's daily family life according to the revered "Mother Book" in his own home in his Heaven (of which the Quran is a copy, according to Islam).

As said before: Read 33/28-29 through 33/33 + 33/50 and 33/51 together to get a picture of his – and very many other dominant religious persons in strong and dark religious societies – technique. One of the much used – and proved efficient – ways of manipulating dependant persons. Even the use of the god, is typical for such persons. All this formally is about Muhammad’s private intimate life, but as what he said and did was and is the correct ethical and moral code in Islam – it is the norm for all women concerning this aspect of life. Allah orders Muhammad's wives to be good girls - a nice help for Muhammad. But is it a job for a god? - and is it text worthy a "Mother Book" which an omniscient god reveres - reveres - in his Heaven?

080 33/33c: "- - - Ignorance - - -". Parallel comment to "knowledge" - see 26/83a above. Islam even today officially names all time before the introduction of Islam "the Time of Ignorance" - people did not know Islam, and all other knowledge was and partly is of little interest to the religion and its people and leaders.

#081 33/33d: "- - - regular Prayer - - -". This demand for regular prayers - 5 times a day - was so essential for Allah (he even wanted more often according to Hadiths) that it became one of the 5 "pillars" of Islam. For Yahweh such formalism was so totally without any interest, that no similar rule - not even the idea - at all is mentioned in the entire Bible: Pray when there is a reason or a need or a wish. One of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.

082 33/33f: "- - - obey Allah and His Messenger - - -". A stronger version of Muhammad's standard, but never proved mantra to glue himself to his platform of power, Allah.

####Note how close Muhammad attaches himself to the power of his claimed god - in plain words: "Obey me - Muhammad". You find this many, many places in the Quran. Power was the main thing Muhammad sought - and riches to gain more power. The Quran clearly indicates that power - and respect - meant even more for him than women. And he was eager for (young) women - willing ones and not willing ones - and at least one child.

083 33/33i: "- - - Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you (Muhammad's women, included his wives*) - - -". Does this belong in a holy book sanctified and revered by a god?

084 33/33j: "- - - pure and spotless." Beware that when the Quran uses expressions like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

085 33/34b: "- - - Signs of Allah - - -". Wrong. There does not exist clear signs for Allah anywhere, inside or outside the Quran.

086 33/34c: “And recite - - - Allah and His Wisdom (= the Quran*) - - -“. There is limited wisdom in a book full of mistakes, and in addition: How to pick what is wisdom – if any – among all the mistakes, twisted words and logic, and even some outright lies?

087 33/34d: "- - - Allah understands the finest mysteries and is well acquainted with them". Why then f.x. 2/233h and 35/38b above.

088 33/35f: "- - - for them (good Muslims*) has Allah prepared forgiveness - - -". Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god (well, may be also if he belongs to the dark forces, but it is questionable what value the forgiveness in case has).

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

089 33/35g: "- - - for them (good Muslims*) has Allah prepared - - - a great reward". If he exists and is a major god, and if he is like described in the Quran. Also see 10/9f above.

#####090 33/36a: "It is not fitting for a Believer (Muslim*) - - - when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger, to have any option about their decision - - -". Full control - absolute power - no thinking, only obedience. The ultimate dream for any dictator. One extra point here is that in reality it was Muhammad who made the decisions here on Earth - not even Muhammad claimed he got all details dictated from Allah. And the final touch: No god dictated the Quran - too much mistakes, contradictions, etc. - then who in reality dictated here that one should obey among others - and the only one on Earth - Muhammad absolutely blindly?

####Note how close Muhammad attaches himself to the power of his claimed god - in plain words: "Obey me - Muhammad". You find this many, many places in the Quran. Power was the main thing Muhammad sought - and riches to gain more power. The Quran clearly indicates that power - and respect - meant even more for him than women. And he was eager for (young) women - willing ones and not willing ones - and at least one child.

091 33/36b: "It is not fitting for a Believer (Muslim*) - - - when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger, to have any option about their decision - - -". (YA3721): "We (Muslims*) must not put our own wisdom in competition with Allah's wisdom." #####If a Muslim knows something is wrong in the Quran, he shall all the same believe what the Quran says(!!). No comment - and not one single one necessary!!

Not less serious: At the time of Muhammad obedience to Allah = obedience to Muhammad. Total obedience is nice for any dictator. This even more so if the Quran and/or Allah are made up - and at least the Quran and all its errors, etc. are not from any god. No further comment necessary on these facts, too.

092 33/36d: "- - - by Allah and His Messenger - - -". Muhammad's standard, but never proved mantra to glue himself to his platform of power; his god.

093 33/36g: "- - - (if) anyone disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong path." With so much wrong in the teaching/the Quran, at least it is wrong that they clearly are on a wrong path. Another point: Women does not count enough in Islam to be mentioned here.

094 33/36h: "- - - (if) anyone disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong path." In plain words: If anyone here on Earth disobeys Muhammad, he will end in Hell. The ultimate dictatorship.

095 33/37a: This verse does not at all belong in any holy book - this is solving of Muhammad's family affairs. (Muhammad fell in love - or in desire - with the wife of his adopted son, Zaid. According to old Arab law an adopted son was a son, and a father-in-law could not marry his daughter-in-law. But Allah changed the law for Muhammad, there was a divorce - what could Zaid say against his mighty "father"? (Muslims claim the marriage was not a good one - that be as it may, it anyhow was a betrayal of Zaid, and even most Muslims do not feel entirely well about this marriage) - - - and Muhammad had himself yet another wife. Also see 33/37 just below.

096 33/37c: "- - - one who had received the grace of Allah and thy (Muhammad's*) favor - - -". This refers to Muhammad's adopted son Zaid bin Harithah. Muhammad became interested in his wife, and with some help from Allah (?) he got her.

Zaid originally was adopted by Muhammad, and his name was Zaid bin Muhammad - in accordance with local laws. When Muhammad fell for Zaid's wife, Zainab, Muhammad created artificial distance between Zaid and himself, partly by decreeing that adoption was not permitted, and thus his adoption of Zaid not valid (Muslims after this story can take children into their family, but not formally adopt them),and partly by decreeing that it was wrong not to use the name of the natural father, as the official father (bin = son of, bint = daughter of). All this because according to the local laws it was prohibited and a grave sin for a man to marry the wife of his son - adopted or real. Not bad for a god to change laws to settle family problems and satisfy lust for Muhammad.

097 33/37e: "- - - thou (Muhammad*) didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah - - -". This easily - oh, so easily - could be hypocrisy.

098 33/37g: "- - - We (Allah*) joined her (Zaid's wife Zainab*) in marriage to thee (Muhammad*): in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marrying with the wives of their adopted sons (after divorce - widows not mentioned*)". This is perhaps the thinnest excuse we have ever heard for a serious selfish deed.

For one thing: Is this a situation which happens so often that it merits a dramatic demonstration?

For another: Many a doubter would be willing to bet that if Muhammad had not been "hot" on this woman, this old Arab law - forbidden to marry your adopted son's former wife - had existed today.

For a third and the main point: A verse from Allah had had JUST the same effect.

Hypocrisy. It is not the only time in the Quran where it is possible to place Muhammad among the hypocrites.

099 33/37h: "And Allah's command must be fulfilled". If he is a god and exists, this is a matter of course. But how to know what are Allah's demands, when it is clear that the Quran is not from Allah? - no god makes that many and often serious mistakes, contradictions, etc.

###100 33/37i: "And Allah's command must be fulfilled". In this case pure hypocrisy. And this may be a main reason for many Muslims' bad feeling about this story (Zaid's wife taken over by Muhammad) even today - the hypocrisy is too obvious.

101 33/38a: "There can be no difficulty to the Prophet in what Allah has indicated him to do (here: To marry Zaid's wife Zainab)". Anyone able to believe Muhammad married her because it was a duty, are permitted to do so - but it will tell a lot about their brain. Also see 33/37i just above.

Hypocrisy.

102 33/38d: "- - - what Allah has indicated to him (Muhammad*) as a duty (to marry Zaynab*) - - -". More too easy to see hypocrisy. See 33/37g+i above.

103 33/38e: "It was the practice (approved) of by Allah amongst (earlier prophets*) - - -" - - - to obey Allah. The same comment as to 33/38d just above.

Another fact: None of the Biblical prophets had a big harem. Most had just one wife, if any at all. (Remember here that in the Bible f.x. David and Solomon are not reckoned to be prophets, only kings.) ####Also none of the Biblical prophets raped women like Muhammad did.)

104 33/39b: "- - - the Messages (the Quran*) of Allah - - -". No god sent down a book of a quality like the Quran - a thought provoking fact also concerning Muhammad's marriage to Zaynab.

#########105 33/39c: "And enough is Allah to call (men) to account." This is a sentence in the Quran Muslims have forgotten - and keeps forgetting - when they punish humans for religious or religiously related mistakes or "crimes". And this even is a relatively late surah. Are they sinning or is this sentence abrogated? (We may here remind you that many Muslims denies the rule of abrogation, as abrogations are profs for that the god has to correct earlier mistakes.

106 33/40c: "(Muhammad is*) the Messenger of Allah". No god sends a messenger bringing so much wrong information.

107 33/40e: “(Muhammad was*) the Seal of the Prophets - - -.” Muhammad was no real prophet - a messenger or an apostle for something or someone perhaps, but no real prophet. See 33/28a above and 33/45 below.

And being no real prophet, he also was not the seal of the prophets. (It is likely that hitherto Jesus was the last prophet.)

108 33/40f: "- - - the Seal of the Prophets - - -." A never proved claim. See 33/40c just above: How could Muhammad be the seal of the prophets (the last and greatest prophet), when he in reality was not a real prophet? – he neither had, nor pretended to have, nor claimed to have the gift of prophesying!!! And also his teaching was so full of errors, that it was not from a god - Muhammad thus definitely was not the prophet of any god. And not least: Muhammad never was able to prove in any way that he really had a connection to a god - there exists not one valid proof for any of the central claims in the Quran, included this. Also See 33/28a above and 33/45 below.

And one more point: As Muhammad was in a different religion compared to both Jewism and Christianity, and also had a god very different from Yahweh, he was not in the line of Jewish prophets. Further there is proved not one single prophet for Islam prior to Muhammad - enormously many claims, but not one single proof. Thus it seems he was not in any line there, too.

109 33/40g: “- - - Allah has full knowledge of all things.” The Quran proves this is not true – lots of mistakes, etc. Or maybe it is not Allah who made the Quran? But it is an often repeated warning in the Quran - do not try to cheat, because Allah knows everything (well, it was not only bad, because he also saw the good things - both the whip and the carrot). Also see 2/23h above.

110 33/41b: "Celebrate the praise of Allah - - -". Please read 1/1a and see if you think he deserves it - if he exists.

111 33/43a: "He (Allah*) is it Who sends blessings on you - - -". Allah cannot send blessings on anyone unless he exists and in addition is a god.

112 33/43b: "- - - His (Allah's*) angels - - -". Allah has no angels unless he exists and is a god (we have seen no angels from Iblis/the Devil in the Quran*).

113 33/43c: "- - - He (Allah*) may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light - - -". Well, not by means of a book as full of errors and immoral moral as the Quran.

114 33/43d: "- - - He (Allah*) is full of Mercy to the Believers". There never was a god of a war religion who really was full of mercy even towards his believers. Also see 1/1a above.

115 33/44b: "He (Allah*) has prepared for them (good Muslims*) a generous Reward". Impossible for Allah unless he exists and is something supernatural - white or dark.

116 33/45c: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. In a book in which so much is wrong, like in the Quran, nothing can be called "truly" unless it is proved. Also see 2/2b above.

117 33/45d: “Truly We (Allah*) have sent thee (Muhammad*) - - -“. Muhammad was not sent by Allah if Allah was a good god – his (Muhammad’s*) teachings were too bloody and too inhuman to represent a good god (but they made a good platform of power for Muhammad). He also was not sent from any omniscient god - too much is wrong, included wrong facts, in the Quran. See also 33/45a just above.

118 33/45f: “- - - Glad Tidings - - -“. Wrong. Islam is no glad tiding, except for the ones not suppressed and those of them who could rob and steal and rape and become rich – and really glad only for the ones near the top of the pyramid. It often is like that in war religions, especially when made to fit a strong and charismatic leader (and his successors), though many war religions have not been as hypocritical as Islam in trying to make its members and others believe it is good and just and benevolent religion. And well, it may have been glad tidings for the minor percent of people who needs a religion to lean on (the exact percentage is not known, but science indicates 5 – 10 %, though some more in difficult times.) In Islam these small percents have usurped all the power and force everybody not only to live, but also to think and believe like themselves.

By the way: Have you ever noticed how many similarities there are between the Quran's moral code and that of organized crime - f.x. the Mafia and extreme communism or fascism?.

119 33/45g: "(Muhammad was*) a Warner - - -". At this time (625-629 AD) Muhammad no longer was only a warner - he had started also to become an enforcer, and much of Arabia and the rest of the Muslim area was made Muslim by means of the sword or by milder pressure backed by the sword.

120 33/46: “(Muhammad be*) as a lamp spreading light.” Did Muhammad spread most light or most darkness? A rhetoric question needing no answer, knowing there is no god behind his claimed holy book.

121 33/47a: “- - - Glad Tidings - - -“. See 33/45a and 33/45c above.

122 33/47c: "- - - they (good Muslims*) shall have from Allah a very great Bounty". You find similar claims here and there in the Quran, but not one of them is documented or in other ways proved fulfilled. Many claims, but not one proved case.

123 33/48c: "- - - put thy (Muslims'*) Trust in Allah". How is that possible when there is no proof neither for Allah's claimed existence, nor for his claimed being a god, nor for his claimed power, especially as the claims on top of all come from a book full of mistakes, dictated by a man of very doubtful moral, but with a strong liking for power, for riches for bribes for more power, and for women?

124 33/48d: "For enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs". If he exists, if he is a god, and if the Quran has told the full truth and only the truth about him.

#125 33/48e: "For enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs". Muslims - who are presumed to really believe in the Quran - should remember this before using inhuman punishment for religious mistakes or sins.

126 33/49b: “When you marry believing women, and then divorce them before ye have touched them, no period of Iddah have ye to count in respect of them: so give them a present.” As mentioned further up: Marriage may be quite a casual affair in Islam. And note that the information about not having to wait before the next man is permitted, is given to the (formal) husband or to men in general, not to the woman. This is a religion centered only on the men and warriors.

127 33/49c: “When you marry believing women, and then divorce them before ye have touched them, no period of Iddah (waiting*) have ye to count in respect of them: so give them a present.” Compare the Quran's rules for divorce to f.x. Matt. 10/5-12. Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of anything? Do not ask stupid questions. The laws concerning divorce is one of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - by far too - and too fundamentally - different.

128 33/50c: “O Prophet! We (Allah*) have made lawful (for sex*) to thee (it is not unusual that the god "permits" this towards the founder of a religion or a sect – it happens not infrequently*) thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers: and those to whom thy right hand possesses out of the spoils of war (which was quite a huge number*) whom Allah has assigned to thee; and the daughters of thy parental uncles and aunts, and the daughters of maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makkah (= Mecca*)) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her – this is only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); we know that We have appointed for them (permitted sex*) as to their wives and those whom their right hands possess – in order that there should be no difficulty for thee.” As for slaves, a huge number passed through Muhammad’s hands – perhaps 2000 or more only from the Qurayza tribe. We do not know if and in case how many of them he personally raped, except Rayhana bint Amr and Safiyya bint Huayay (which we know about because the first later became one of his concubines, and the other one of his wives), but the casual way and the minimal fuzz with which two rapes happened and made, makes it easy to think that they neither were the first, nor the only ones – to rape ones captives and slaves was (and formally still is) completely ok in Islam. That just was the way life was/is for slave women and captive women - and at least female children - under Islam.

And once more: Read 33/28-29 through 33/33 + 33/50 and 33/51 together to get a picture of his – and very many other dominant religious persons in strong and dark religious societies – technique. One of the much used – and proved efficient – ways of manipulating dependant persons. Even the use or disuse of the god, is typical for such persons. All this formally is about Muhammad’s private intimate life, but as what he said and did was and is the correct ethical and moral code in Islam, it became the norm for all women concerning this aspect of life under Islam.

Besides: Does Muhammad's private sex life belong in a claimed holy book for all times and all the world?

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h and 30/47b above.

###129 33/50d: "- - - We (Allah*) have made lawful for you (Muhammad and Muslims*) - - - those whom thy right hand possesses (= your slaves*) out of the spoils of war - - -". This plainly tells that Muslims are permitted to rape any female captive of war (and remember that all wars in reality were and often are named jihad - and Muslims also cannot explain that it only rape, etc. only for jihads - f.x. the war between Pakistan and Bangladesh hardly was a holy one, but hundreds of thousands of rapes) - and honestly it is quite a god who says: "When you fight for me - or at least your leaders claim you are - you are permitted to rape any female child (at least if she is 9 years or older - Muhammad's start of sex with Aishah), girl, woman or married not pregnant woman you come across, if you just can call her your captive. Just look at armed conflicts the last couple of generations included Bangladesh and Eritrea - that is just what even regular Muslim armies have practiced - with inhuman examples in Bangladesh, where the hundreds of thousands of or more rape victims even were fellow Muslims (We have read that in Bangladesh there after that war was born some 200ooo illegitimate children from the rapes. This in case means a few million cases of rape of fellow Muslim girls and women. On average each Pakistanis soldier in case made several rapes. Another claimed number was 200ooo raped children, girls, and women - much less, but also this a lot - - - and Muslim women. (200ooo+ raped women seem to be the official number.)) This tells more about reality in the Islamic moral code and about the benevolence of Allah, than all the nice claims about such things in the Quran combined - acts and rules showing reality, always are more reliable than nice claims. And honestly: To do it in the name of their god, makes the deeds even more disgusting, and tells a lot about the real Allah - - - if he exists.

Another point:

1. To steal and rob is dishonesty, even though the Quran - like f.x. the Mafia - permitted it, and even glorified, it as it attracted warriors and gave Muhammad riches.

2. To steal humans (for slavery) is dishonesty to at least the second or third power. Firstly they stole their freedom, which is very valuable to most humans. Secondly they stole the economic value they had as slaves.

3. And they often stole children’s and women's sexual "services" (= raped them), the privacy which definitely has a deep value for most humans. To what power and inhumanity is this?

4. And not to forget: There - then and now - is all the verbal dishonesty, the lies.

All this was and is "lawful and good". A "Religion of Honesty"?

What is the claim "the Religion of Truth" worth, when the use of dishonesty of all kinds are so accepted as "lawful and good" working tools, that even the slogan "the Religion of Truth" may be/is a lie?

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h and 30/47b above.

#####130 33/50e: "- - - We (Allah*) have made lawful (for sex/rape) for you (Muhammad and Muslims*) - - - those whom thy right hand possesses (= your slaves*) out of the spoils of war (captives from raids and war) - - -". Women and girl children you took captive during raids and war: Just go on raping them (actually this also to a degree happened to male boys, youths, and young men, too). "Do unto others like you want others do unto you".

#####There are other moral rules in Islam which are worse and more immoral, but this is the one we find most repulsive - this one and the one permitting sex with/rape of children. Also see 8/69 telling this is "lawful and good". Disgusting to use small letters. (Much of 33/50 is just for Muhammad - he raped at least Rayhana bint Amr and Safiyya bint Huayay, but rape of slaves and captives and sex with children were for any man - understood by the Muslims from f.x. 8/69.)

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h and 30/47b above.

131 33/50f: "(Muhammad may have for a wife*) any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet (Muhammad') - - -". The literally correct translation according to M. Azad (A33/59 - A33/60 in the English 2008 edition): "if she offered herself as a gift (Arab: "in wahabat nafsaha") to the Prophet (Muhammad*)". Here is an interesting piece of information: Most Muslim commentators take this to mean "without demanding or expecting a dower". The dower was and is an integrated part of the Muslim formalities of a wedding. Here it seems that also here Muhammad god special treatment from Allah: Cheap wives. This in addition to that he could take a prisoner of war, make her slave, marry her and "give" her her freedom - except from her new husband - as a dower. Muhammad did this at least with Safiyya bint Huayay (after first having raped her) - a very cheap wife, as the dower cost him nothing.

Muhammad was pretty different from Jesus, also on this point. Definitely not from the same religion.

Besides: Does Muhammad's private sex life and sex violations (he "lawfully and good" raped at least Rayhana bint Amr and Safiyya bint Huayay + had years of pedophilic sex with Aisha) belong in a claimed holy book for all times and the entire world? - or as part of a religion? And would a god revere such texts in his Heaven?

If the Quran simply belongs among the apocryphal books, many things are easy to understand, and it at least belongs in that line and tradition, even if it is further "out" than most of the others. Muhammad also fits the picture of the leader of an apocryphal sect, admittedly more immoral and bloody than most of the others.

Also see 30/40h and 30/47b above.

132 33/50g: “- - - to the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” See 33/50a above.

133 33/50i: "- - - this (the permission for a nearly unlimited number of women - he had at least 36 (not some 11 like Muslims often mention - those only were his long-time wives) is only for thee (Muhammad*) - - -". Special rules for self proclaimed prophets far from are unheard of in fringe sects and religions - like Islam was at that time. Normally they have turned out in the end to be false prophets.

But does Muhammad's personal sex life belong in a claimed "holy book"? And would a god revere such texts in his heaven?

134 33/50j: "And Allah is Oft-Forgiving - - -". Allah can forgive no-one unless he exists and in addition is a god.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

135 33/50k: "And Allah is - - - Most Merciful". As said many times before: Please read the surahs from Medina, the immoral parts of the Islamic moral code, and the immoral parts of sharia - and the remark just above this one - and see if you agree.

136 33/50-52: Some serious questions: These verses - 33/50-52 - are about how many women Muhammad was permitted to have and have sex with - nearly any woman and more or less as many as he wanted for marriage plus any not pregnant captive or slave girl or woman. And like some other founders of sects and religions there were special rules for this and that for him. Does this really belong in a holy book - a book which is a copy of the claimed "mother book" which is revered by the god and his angels in Heaven (13/39b, 43/4, 85/21-22)? And how does this compare with the real prophets in the Bible - the ones he claims to be in the same line of? (Remember that in the Bible men like David and Solomon are not reckoned among the prophets, but among the kings.) And finally: How does rape/forced sex with captive or slave women compare with NT's view of rules for sex?

#######Allah and his angels revering pornographic texts in his Heaven? Some god.

Yahweh and Allah the same god? Perhaps - if he is strongly schizophrenic.

Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion and moral code? You bet!

137 33/51d: (A33/61 - A33/62 in the English 2008 edition): "Thus, the Prophet (Muhammad*) was told (by Allah*) that he need not observe a strict "rotation" in the conjugal attentions due to his wives - - -". Really some stuff for a "holy" book - and for 124ooo earlier prophets who had gotten copies of the claimed "Mother Book". Not to mention an interesting text in the "Mother Book" from which the Quran is copied, for Allah to revere in his Heaven.

Yahweh and Allah the same god? Perhaps - if he is strongly schizophrenic. Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion and moral code? Once more: You bet!

138 33/53k: The whole of this verse is about Muhammad's private life. It does not belong in a claimed "holy" book. It also does not belong in a claimed "Mother Book" copied to 124ooo earlier prophets for whom this was totally irrelevant. Not to mention that no god would revere texts like this in his Heaven, like claimed in the Quran (13/13b, 43/4, 85/21-22).

139 33/58c: "- - - a glaring sin - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, compared to in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exists.

140 33/59a: “O Prophet! (Muhammad*) - - -.” See 33/55c above.

141 33/59e: "And Allah is Oft-Forgiving - - -". See 33/50j above.

142 33/59f: "And Allah is - - - Most Merciful". See f.x. 1/1a above".

143 33/60a: "Truly - - -". Definitely not a proved truth - only a not proved claim. See 2/2b above.

144 33/60b: “Truly, if the Hypocrites, and the ones in whose hearts is a disease - - - desists not - - - they will not be able to stay in it (a city) as thy neighbor’s for any length of time - -”. Bad people are to be chased away.

######145 33/60e: "- - - We (Allah*) shall certainly stir thee (Muslims*) up against them (bad or not Muslims*) - - -". To twist an old proverb: ######This sentence alone tells more than a 1000 choice slogans about "the religion of peace". What you say when you forget to guard your words or do not think it necessary, always by far is more reliable than carefully chosen claims. Also see next comment just below.

#####146 33/60f: "- - - We (Allah*) shall certainly stir thee (Muslims*) up against them (bad or not Muslims*), then they will not be able to stay in it (the city*) as thy neighbor’s for any length of time". This tells as much as the comment just above. Something to remember when you accept Muslims to your city? There already are demands for special treatment for Muslims many places. We remind you that most - at least 70% on average according to research - are as ok as you and me. But the problem is: Who is who?.

####147 33/61d: “(Hypocrites and non-Muslims and those who make unrest*) shall have a course upon them: wherever they are found, they shall be sized and slain (without mercy)”. We intended to ask you compare this to NT, but such a comparison is not possible. At least a 200% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad morally not even distantly connected.

###148 33/61-62: “They (non-Muslims, hypocrites, etc.*) shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be sized and slain (without mercy) (‘no compulsion in religion’ 2/256*). (Such was) the practice (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime (f.x. Jews and Christians*). Muhammad claimed that Allah was just another name for Yahweh – but try to find an order telling that all non-Christians shall be murdered “without mercy” in NT and in the new covenant (f.x. Luke 22/20 in NT) - a covenant Muslims never mention - and NT is what Christianity is built on. Oh, we know very well that persons from Christian countries have done bad things, but that was in spite of their religion – and they were not really Christians deep down – and not in accordance with, or even because of the religion, like the case often is with the “religion of peace” (Muslim-speak for camouflaging the “religion of war”) Islam.

###149 33/62a: “(Such was) the practice (kill non-believers without mercy*) (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime: no change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah.” Muhammad here refers to the Mosaic and the Christian religions (and he wrongly sets Allah = Yahweh) when he talks about “those who lived aforetime”. But even though OT is hard against many non-Jews, the war and the killing was to get room for living for the Jews, not wanton murdering just because they were not Jews or for plunder and slaves. And in NT: Try to find a single place saying that non-believers shall be murdered just because they have another religion – such an order simply does not exist. (There are 1-2 places in the OT where Yahweh disliked that the Jews did not kill many enough of the enemies, but because the survivors represented future problems, not because they refused to change religion.) The Quran here actually is a 180 degree contradiction to the very core of the teachings of Jesus.

Any god had been lying if he said this, but Muhammad did not know the Bible well, so may be – just may be – he thought from wishful thinking that he spoke the truth, but no matter he was too intelligent not to know he had no reliable source for the claim. ###Correction: This surah is from 625-629 AD = Muhammad knew he was lying. But in any case it was a good statement for a warlord trying to secure and enlarge his platform of power. (This surah is believed to be from 627 – 629 AD – before he had gained absolute control by conquering Mecca.)

150 33/62b: “Such (to kill non-Muslims not living according to Islam’s laws of suppression of non-Muslims*) was the practice (approved) of Allah among the ones that lived aforetime: ####no change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah (now or in the future*)”. #####If Islam/Muslims grow strong enough some time, this is what to expect, according to their holy book - "no change" of course. How had the world looked today, if the industrial revolution with its superior weapons, ships and economic and military superiority had happened in the Muslim area? - Islam has no moral, ethical, empathetically, ideological or philosophical ideas against suppressing other people - on the contrary it is a religious duty. Actually Islam has no moral or ethical philosophy at all - that was decided once and for all before 1100 AD by the religion, with al Ghazali - "the greatest Muslim after Muhammad" - as the grave digger with his book "The Incoherence of the Philosophers". (There were a few thinkers for some more time - about 100 more years - in Spain, but they got little influence on the mainstream Islam).

151 33/62c: "- - - no change wilt thou (Muslims/Muhammad*) find in the praxis (approved) of Allah". Wrong to say the least of it. Read the NT - it is so different from the war religion of the Quran, that it is not a question of finding changes, but if there exist basic similarities at all. The praxis approved of Yahweh is extremely different from the one approved by Allah - that is to say; Allah has approved nothing if he does not exist.

##########This is one of Muhammad's lies in the Quran. But he knew the Bible so little, that in this case he perhaps was not sure he was lying - but he was too intelligent not to know that this was a claim he made without a reliable source. Correction: This surah is from 625-629 AD. At that time Muhammad was well aware of that there were big differences between his teaching and the Bible. Muhammad knew he was lying.

152 33/63e: "- - - perchance the Hour (Day of Doom*) is nigh!" A very common sentence to meet from religious leaders wanting to frighten their congregations to obedience. Good psychology and propaganda - uneasiness work on human minds.

153 33/64c: "Verily, Allah has cursed the Unbelievers - - -". It definitely is no proved verity/truth. Only perhaps true if Allah exists and is a major god - - - and if the Quran in addition has told the full truth and only the truth about him.

154 33/65a: "To dwell therein (Hell*) for ever - - -". But f.x. 6/128c, 11/107b, 43/74b-c, 78/23, (plus some Hadiths) may indicate that Hell is not quite forever.

155 33/65b: "- - - no protector will they (non-Muslims*) find, nor helper". Now Yahweh's rules for who deserves Paradise and who not, at some points are very different from Allah's - one of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Not unlikely Yahweh may be a protector and helper at least for his followers. If any of the 2 gods exists.

156 33/66c: "Would that we (non-Muslims*) had obeyed Allah and obeyed the Messenger (Muhammad*)". In a religion it really should be enough to obey the god - which should have been what counted. But one also had to obey Muhammad. A bit thought provoking when you know this is a mannerism followed by many false prophets. Jesus instead said "follow me" - yet another indication for that Jesus and Muhammad did not belong to the same religion.

157 33/67: "- - - the (right) Path". The road to the Quran's Paradise - also see 10/9f above.

158 33/70b: "Fear Allah - - -". Why? - it is highly unlikely he exists, and if he exists we know nothing about him - the texts in the Quran are too unreliable.

159 33/71a: ""That He (Allah*) may make your conduct whole and sound and forgive you your sins - - -". This only is possible if Allah exists and really is a god.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

160 33/71b: "- - - forgive - - -". Allah can forgive nobody if he just is a made up god or a dressed up pagan god (al-Lah) - not to mention if he belongs to the dark forces.

Another point is that to forgive - or for that case to punish or reward or fulfill prayers - means for Allah to change his Plan considering the sinner/person, which according to the Quran is something nobody and nothing can make him do. See 2/187d above.

161 33/71c: "- - - your sins - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. We also may mention that just this word - "sins" - often covers very different deeds, acts, words, and thoughts in the Quran and Islam, compared to in more normal religions (Islam is a religion of war - in spite of its loud slogans), not to mention how much its meaning in the Quran often differs from the basic of all human moral; "do against others like you want others do against you". Read the surahs from Medina and weep.

One small remark: As Yahweh's religion and f.x. moral code at many points are totally different from Allah's, you may qualify for Yahweh's Paradise even if Muslims condemn you to Hell - if both exists.

162 33/71f: "- - - he that obeys Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*), has already achieved the highest Achievement". No comment - except: Good psychology if the listeners are naive, uneducated or in more or less blind belief. And note: You also had to obey Muhammad - in reality the only one to obey here on Earth.

163 33/71g: "- - - Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". The chief but never proved mantra for Muhammad to glue himself to his platform of power - his god.

####Note how close Muhammad attaches himself to the power of his claimed god - in plain words: "Obey me - Muhammad". You find this many, many places in the Quran. Power was the main thing Muhammad sought - and riches to gain more power. The Quran clearly indicates that power - and respect - meant even more for him than women. And he was eager for (young) women - willing ones and not willing ones - and at least one child.

164 33/72b: “We (Allah*) even offer the Trust to the Heavens (plural and wrong*) and (the planet*) Earth and the Mountains, but they refused to undertake it - - -”. A case of animism or even anthropomorphism - things you normally find in primitive religions and in fairy tales.

165 33/72d: “We (Allah*) did indeed offer the Trust (Islam/the Quran) to the (material*) Heavens and the Earth and the Mountains; but they refused to undertake it, being afraid thereof - - -.” Frightened suns and planets and mountains??? Not bad even for a religion – just like in fairy tales.

166 33/72g: "- - - unjust - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses words like this, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code.

167 33/73c: "- - - Allah turns in Mercy to the Believers - - -". There never was a proved case of this - lots of claims, but never a proved case.

168 33/73e: "- - - Allah is oft-Forgiving, - - -". Allah can forgive nobody unless he exists and is a god.

As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.

169 33/73f: "- - - Allah is - - - Most Merciful". See 1/1a above

5434 + 169 = 5603 remarks.

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Not formed like questions for proofs, but what needs to be proved normally easy to see all the same. And: References you do not find here, go to "1000+ Comments on the Quran".


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